[FairfieldLife] Is this man is flyng ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIwcVAxZsUmode=relatedsearch If not it's definately the best trick I have seen until now.
[FairfieldLife] Advanced Techniques?
As I recall it (might well misremember...), my TM teacher said that the purpose of advanced techniques is to *slow down* transcending, so that one has more time to watch the scenery, to become more familiar with different levels of creation, or stuff.
[FairfieldLife] 'I'm not the only one...'
Imagine there's no country, It isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, And no religion too... (Hey Dubya, can you imagine that?)... - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Siddhi, sort of?
At about 11 minutes into this video, Swedish MD/World Champion Stage Magician Lennart Green starts to take out all the clubs from a deck of cards, in numerical order. :0 http://arenan.yle.fi/toista?id=845171 He sez that's somewhat based on blocking out the left brain, or something.
[FairfieldLife] Step by step - by the Master through Benjamin Creme
Master's article for Share International magazine, October 2007 Step by step by the Master , through Benjamin Creme From time to time, We, your Elder Brothers, attempt to engage humanity in an understanding of the evolutionary process in which all are immersed, knowingly or not. To this end, We convey to disciples, in whole or in part, that Teaching which We adjudge to be of value, at that particular time, in broadening the minds of men and acquainting them with the knowledge which will lighten their journey. From now on, while this method of teaching will continue, Maitreya and His Group will involve Themselves more and more directly with the general public. Thus humanity will see more clearly, and appreciate more completely, the connection between the Teaching, more or less esoteric in nature, of the evolutionary process and the circumstances of their lives, from moment to moment. A deeper understanding of the meaning and purpose of their lives, and of the great Laws which govern them, will in this way be established. A great step forward by humanity as a whole can thus be expected. Discovery For disciples and initiates, the Teaching will go forward in the usual way: during the hours of sleep, and that conveyed and published through certain disciples. With this exception: since the Masters will work openly, more and more of the Teaching will come directly from Them. This, of course, will speed the process of learning, and shorten the journey for disciples to a significant degree. Furthermore, the presence of the Masters will help to obliterate the gulf which now exists between the disciples and the world of `ordinary' men. More or less all, on one level or another, will be engaged in a conscious journey of discovery and growing awareness of the magnitude of life. Thus will it be. So far, a blueprint, only, exists for this considerable shift in emphasis of the Teaching methods used by Us, but gradually this blueprint will change into a living form from which all will benefit and grow. Perfection Maitreya will show men that every step they take to remake their world, and to establish right human relations, is a forward step on their journey to perfection. That the inner step for the disciple must be matched by the outer step of the man not yet engaged in the initiatory process. That all is an interrelated and integrated whole. Step by step, man makes his path at his own pace; step by step, man moves from ignorance to knowledge, from injustice to justice, from slavery to freedom. In all such endeavours, there will be times when progress seems slow and unlikely; but man will grow in confidence and trust, and learn the method of `step by step'. His innate divinity, lost now in materialism and commercialization, will blossom anew under the teaching of Maitreya and His Group. Man will come to know himself as the creative source of all his needs. http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Questions and answers from Share International News, october 2007
Questions Answers Q. At the showing of Benjamin Creme's lecture video in San Francisco on 12 August 2007, it was announced beforehand that Maitreya and the Master Jesus were present in the audience in various guises. Were They there? A. Yes, Maitreya and the Master Jesus were present (in the form of `familiars') throughout the meeting. Q. How likely is it that the current volatility in the US and other stock markets will lead to the worldwide stock market crash predicted by Maitreya? A. What we are witnessing, worldwide, in stock market volatility, is a gradual movement downwards which will culminate in a final crash. The stock markets are prime symbols of the old ways of working financially and economically and have no place in the new era, which is now dawning. They are no more than gambling casinos and have outlived their usefulness. Q. Why does Maitreya think that it is necessary for Him to physically emerge in order to complete the shift in human consciousness? A. Maitreya has physically returned to the everyday world as part of the similar return which the Hierarchy of Masters are undergoing. It is called the Externalization of the Hierarchy. Over and above that, He has returned in a full, physical sense so that He can do His work as the World Teacher for the Aquarian Age. Were He not in a physical form, He would not gain the attention of countless millions who require someone they can see and hear directly. Even now, many who would gladly believe He is here, and are ready to respond to His Teaching, are hesitant because they cannot see Him. Countless others, in the meantime, chase after Gurus and dubious Avatars, because they have to see a physical person to relate to. Q. It is 10 years since Princess Diana died and 10 years since Maitreya overshadowed vast numbers of people on the occasion of her funeral. Did Maitreya overshadow large numbers of people again when the anniversary of the Princess's death was marked? A. It is not that Maitreya `overshadowed' vast numbers of people but released His energy in great potency which was responded to by vast numbers. In the ten years which have passed there has been a marked loss of interest in Princess Diana by the general public. There was a well-attended Memorial Service for her at the Guards' Chapel at the Wellington Barracks in London on 31 August when those taking part were again blessed by Maitreya's energies. Q. If the US and other forces were to ask for advice from Hierarchy, what advice and solutions to the terrible mess of Afghanistan and Iraq would they receive? A. To admit the wrong committed by the invasions and to pour the necessary monies and all other resources to restore these countries to peace and calm. To hold an international UN-led inquiry into the best way to begin and complete this restoration and to avow no further incursions of a like kind anywhere in the world. Q. While working in London's Middlesex Hospital cancer ward I heard many stories of the `woman in white' sitting on patients' beds and giving them a cup of tea just before they died. At the time we all thought she must be a ghost, but now I'm wondering if she was a Master? A. Yes, the `woman in white' was the Master Jesus. Q. Children are getting caught up in murder and violent crime on Britain's streets why? What has gone wrong? What can be done to tackle the causes? A. This sad situation is not exclusive to Britain but is becoming more and more evident throughout the developed world. Through the blind following of market forces the politicians of the Western world have created a split society where the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. This is very clearly the case in Britain, as in America and other `successful' countries. These violent crimes take place primarily in the poorest areas of inner cities where children and teenagers are neglected, have no facilities for organized group play and sport, and often little or no parental guidance. They have no sense of being wanted, are alienated and at war with themselves and with the society of which they are a part. Their only family or group are the street gangs which inevitably take the place of their own. They feel that life has no meaning or hope for them and turn to violence to give it meaning. At the same time the newspapers are filled with the reports of record `bonuses' for the heads of companies who have steered these companies to huge profits. These bonuses can be as much as £20 million a year. Is it any wonder that these children feel deprived and seek revenge? http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] 'One Defintion of Enlightenment'
When the soul expands and overshadows the body, Then you realize you are the energy of the soul, And you no longer experience yourself, as the body, But you experience yourself as an energy called 'The Soul'. In other words, when the energy of the soul, expands enough... You experience yourself as energy, and not body. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] 'Soul Energy'
Many times, in times of trouble, The body responds in fear and trepidation... Such are the times now. There is much fear and confusion, Being propagated, by the government, and in the media. Best to realize that the only refuge from the noise of this confusion, And it's effect on the physiology, eliciting fear responses... It's to 'Intend', to feel, realize and experience the soul. And the soul becomes the refuge in such times. So hard times can be a gift to propel one towards taking refuge, In the soul. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph.
[FairfieldLife] YF and mahaa-siddhis?
In his comment on YS IV 1, kRSNA-dvaipaayana sez, amongst other things: mantrairaakaashagamanaaNimaadilaabhaH Attempt at s-v: mantraiH; aakaasha-gamana + aNimaa + aadi -laabhaH Possible translation: Yogic Flying (aakaasha-gamanam), aNimaa, etc (aadi) are achieved (laabhaH: acquisition, etc.) through mantras (mantraiH: instrumental plural). Vyaasa seems to compare YF with the eight mahaasiddhis (aNimaa, mahimaa, laghimaa, garimaa, etc.). Does he try to emphasize, that YF is best achieved through a mental technique, not e.g. praaNaayaama?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hmmm... dharma-megha?
On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:07 PM, billy jim wrote: According to Georg Feuerstein the sole source for this term is Buddhist sutra and shastra. There are no other instances of dharma- megha being used in the darshanas, epics or yogic literature prior to Patanjali's usage. I did look at Shankara's vivarana and will check out Vijnanabhikshu's commentary. Sorry but I don't have time to type it all. Maybe I can summarize. We'll see. The textual explanation for the transitions into and of dharma-megha samadhi occur in a supplementary text called the Maniprabha of Ramananda Yati. The YS is just something to jog the memory of initiates and relies on other texts for clarification and practical applications (techniques). According to the Maniprabha, asamprajnata-samadhi cannot be reached thru any of the limbs of yoga. According to it's explanation, the mechanics are as follows: --a person receives authentic instruction from an authentic guru. --Khyati or yogic-discernment develops. --thru khyati, one gains access to the preliminary stage of dharmamegha-samadhi. --this obliterates malas, or the obscurations from tamas and rajas in the mind-field, leaving the mind totally sattvic, filled with prasada. --the higher stages of dharma-megha dawn. --this higher dispassion clears all karma, all kleshas. Total self- knowledge dawns. --asamprajnata-samadhi follows.
[FairfieldLife] Animal Dharma Affected by Humanity?
2007-10-03
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Well, boys and girls, you've heard so much about Kali Yuga and you've heard the excuse that no group concerned about making this a better world can exceed the moral excellence of the current state of humanity. Well, it seems that animals in the wild may be of similar opinion, find out how: http://so-this-bird-walks-into-a-store.veryweird.com/ *Everything else can wait, but our search for God cannot wait.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph. One wonders how much the TM-feature of the school curriculum was known by the bestowers of the National Middle School Principal of the Year award. Either way, it's a big win for the TM org. If they knew about TM at at the school, the TM-factor must already have a significant degree of acceptance among the educational intelligensia. If the TM- factor were unknown, the award opens a window for the TM org to gain credibility. The David Lynch foundation video on the school, with its testimonial from the principal, shows the school community's depth of appreciation for the TM technique. It was wise to capture those sentiments for posterity some months ago, before the award was bestowed, because Success has 1,000 authors. Even the California Masonic Temple website has a story about the award, and mentioned the principal is a Mason. The award should be a real gem, for all involved, and the TM org would be remiss were they to not have the glow of this award not fall upon them, as well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph. One wonders how much the TM-feature of the school curriculum was known by the bestowers of the National Middle School Principal of the Year award. Either way, it's a big win for the TM org. If they knew about TM at at the school, the TM-factor must already have a significant degree of acceptance among the educational intelligensia. If the TM- factor were unknown, the award opens a window for the TM org to gain credibility. The David Lynch foundation video on the school, with its testimonial from the principal, shows the school community's depth of appreciation for the TM technique. It was wise to capture those sentiments for posterity some months ago, before the award was bestowed, because Success has 1,000 authors. Even the California Masonic Temple website has a story about the award, and mentioned the principal is a Mason. The award should be a real gem, for all involved, and the TM org would be remiss were they to not have the glow of this award fall upon them, as well.
[FairfieldLife] Criss Angel is just a low down cheat (Re: Is this man is flyng ?)
Criss Angel has twisted the time honored values of magicians and sullied the artform. It's true that magicians often employ shills in the audience, but Chriss uses PAID ACTORS for EVERYONE in the crowds that seem to witness his feats. He literally doesn't have any audience at all. He uses camera tricks to accomplish all the rest. It takes absolutely no scholarship in the world of entertaining-magicians for Chriss' tricks -- I can do anything he's done with a camera too -- he's not even doing anything special with the camera. I don't mind if folks are entertained by him, cuz, hell, they're entertained by Pro wrestling, and gulp, I'm entertained by actors doing all sorts of things that are merely camera tricks. But when Criss blurs the line between cheap ass camera tricksters with paid audience and true magician who can so sleight of hand, prop tricks, and knows all the subtle diverting the gaze methods. I don't know what Criss has accomplished along these scholarly lines that require thousands of hours of practicing, but he sure isn't showing any skills if you ask me. I wouldn't let this guy marry my sister. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIwcVAxZsUmode=relatedsearch If not it's definately the best trick I have seen until now.
[FairfieldLife] Criss Angel is just a low down cheat (Re: Is this man is flyng ?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Criss Angel has twisted the time honored values of magicians and sullied the artform. It's true that magicians often employ shills in the audience, but Chriss uses PAID ACTORS for EVERYONE in the crowds that seem to witness his feats. Just curious, what is your proof?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
I'm sure TM had absolutely nothing to do with the success of this principal. --- mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph. One wonders how much the TM-feature of the school curriculum was known by the bestowers of the National Middle School Principal of the Year award. Either way, it's a big win for the TM org. If they knew about TM at at the school, the TM-factor must already have a significant degree of acceptance among the educational intelligensia. If the TM- factor were unknown, the award opens a window for the TM org to gain credibility. The David Lynch foundation video on the school, with its testimonial from the principal, shows the school community's depth of appreciation for the TM technique. It was wise to capture those sentiments for posterity some months ago, before the award was bestowed, because Success has 1,000 authors. Even the California Masonic Temple website has a story about the award, and mentioned the principal is a Mason. The award should be a real gem, for all involved, and the TM org would be remiss were they to not have the glow of this award fall upon them, as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:10 AM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set -- the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. That model does not fit my experience -- certainly doesn't work well with many men -- just look at this list. I think you missed what she's saying New Morn. If you are say, 55, and you're habitually attracted to 25 year olds, it could be because your emotional maturity is closer to that of a 25 year old. In other words, even though you're 55, you have the emotional maturity of a 25 YO. Like attracts like. This formula of course ignores a number of other factors, like really mature 25 YO's. :-) It's a reason some people could be attracted to younger mates.
[FairfieldLife] Criss Angel is just a low down cheat (Re: Is this man is flyng ?)
I don't have any proof of Criss Angel's camera-tricks-paid-actors, cheating and thus sullying traditional magician-artform. But just google Criss Angel Cheating Camera tricks and you'll see that the vast majority of those posting on the many magic-oriented message boards are concerned about his use of camera tricks. And he is considered lesser than Copperfield, Henning, Penn Teller who would eschew such methods. I did some research, finally, on him just now, and I'm guessing he does have some minor sleight of hand chops, etc., but mostly the best illusion of Criss Angel is that he has convinced many that he is, indeed, an illusionist on the par with Copperfield, Henning, Penn Teller. Here's the bottom line: I show you video of me standing next to a dog. I say, I'll make the dog disappear. I snap my fingers, and you see the whole scene on the screen shift a bit, cuz I moved the camera slightly as I put it on pause. I remove the dog, then I turn on the video again and say, Voila! That's how simple and crass Criss Angel's tricks are. If I pay someone to be standing next to me who then lies and says that he saw the dog disappear, it doesn't make me a more clever magician. Give me the right to use paid actors and a blue screen, and I'll have a bunch of people standing around screaming in awe as they are looking at me like I was God as I levitated in front of them. Google him and come to your own conclusions. I've made mine. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Criss Angel has twisted the time honored values of magicians and sullied the artform. It's true that magicians often employ shills in the audience, but Chriss uses PAID ACTORS for EVERYONE in the crowds that seem to witness his feats. Just curious, what is your proof?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set -- the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- I thought he was saying that age does *not* correlate with emotional maturity--that an older man who pursues younger women is emotionally immature. The implication in his statement, IMO, was that youngerwomen are less mature than older women. more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. Boy, I don't know how you came up with this-- it doesn't even fit with what you said to start with. See above. That model does not fit my experience -- certainly doesn't work well with many men -- just look at this list. And therefore un-equal age relationships ( ~10 years?) are a kind of parody of emotionally healthy humans. Again what a premise. A mind set that seems consistent with age ghettos -- people of more than 10 years different ages should not interact or congregate. What a sad vision and living of life. I don't think there's any shoulds in what Vaj said. Nor did I say that he said should. I was looking at an extrapolation of what he said. An implication. All the time there are unrealized and unexamined implications to what people say. I did not say, or mean to imply that Vaj had thought through all the implications to what he said. I am quite sure he has not. So I am thinking out loud about them. And I am making an independent point beyond his. If it is true that (which I am suggesting it is not) i) people of different age cohorts have different distinct levels of maturity, ii) older cohorts are generally more mature than younger ones, and that iii) people of not the same cohort should not mingle, there are implications to this. To me, it implies an age segregated society, comprised of with age ghettos. I don't think that is good. But, thankfully, I don't think that the above three listed points, upon which such an extrapolations is based, are valid. But I also seriously doubt that a formula like that would apply across the board. A woman might well be mature beyond her years, for one thing; and for another, emotional-age differences tend to decrease as folks get older. A 50-year-old and a 60-year-old are likely to be much closer in emotional age than a 30-year-old and a 20-year-old, even though the chronological age difference is the same. In any case, I suspect that the biological imperative is much more significant than emotional immaturity in men, generally speaking, as the explanation for why men have traditionally sought mates younger than themselves. The younger the woman, the more children she can bear the man before her menopause; and presumably the man will remain capable of siring offspring more or less indefinitely, until he's so decrepit he can no longer function sexually. Plus which, up to a point, the older the man, the better able he'll be to support and protect the woman and her children while she's busy churning them out and raising them. In other words, that men are attracted to younger women is an evolutionary survival trait. Hmmm, if we put Vaj's theory and the biological imperative together, maybe emotional immaturity in men is also an evolutionary survival trait... Good points. And though you mention only immature men, clearly immaturity is not a isolated to men.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:10 AM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set -- the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. That model does not fit my experience -- certainly doesn't work well with many men -- just look at this list. I think you missed what she's saying New Morn. If you are say, 55, and you're habitually attracted to 25 year olds, it could be because your emotional maturity is closer to that of a 25 year old. In other words, even though you're 55, you have the emotional maturity of a 25 YO. Like attracts like. This formula of course ignores a number of other factors, like really mature 25 YO's. :-) It's a reason some people could be attracted to younger mates. I understand the point. And I am sure some immature men seek out immature women. And that this fulfills a need in him. And probably her. It certainly can be one of a number of explanations. And actually, if generalized, this example is consistent with my theme that people will seek out and even dare I say benefit from, finding people of like qualities, levels of skill, maturities, etc. Its just that I don't think these things are very age correlated. And thus, chastising -- which maybe is not implied in your comments -- a 55 yr old for being friends with a 25 year old -- regardless of gender, is not healthy or productive, IMO.
[FairfieldLife] The Taj Mahal - the real story
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:56 AM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:10 AM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set -- the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. That model does not fit my experience -- certainly doesn't work well with many men -- just look at this list. I think you missed what she's saying New Morn. If you are say, 55, and you're habitually attracted to 25 year olds, it could be because your emotional maturity is closer to that of a 25 year old. In other words, even though you're 55, you have the emotional maturity of a 25 YO. Like attracts like. This formula of course ignores a number of other factors, like really mature 25 YO's. :-) It's a reason some people could be attracted to younger mates. I understand the point. And I am sure some immature men seek out immature women. And that this fulfills a need in him. And probably her. It certainly can be one of a number of explanations. And actually, if generalized, this example is consistent with my theme that people will seek out and even dare I say benefit from, finding people of like qualities, levels of skill, maturities, etc. Its just that I don't think these things are very age correlated. And thus, chastising -- which maybe is not implied in your comments -- a 55 yr old for being friends with a 25 year old -- regardless of gender, is not healthy or productive, IMO. I'd be curious what you think of the Half your age plus seven rule then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Half-your-age-plus-seven-graph.JPG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
[FairfieldLife] Criss Angel is just a low down cheat (Re: Is this man is flyng ?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Criss Angel has twisted the time honored values of magicians and sullied the artform. It's true that magicians often employ shills in the audience, but Chriss uses PAID ACTORS for EVERYONE in the crowds that seem to witness his feats. He literally doesn't have any audience at all. He uses camera tricks to accomplish all the rest. It takes absolutely no scholarship in the world of entertaining-magicians for Chriss' tricks -- I can do anything he's done with a camera too -- he's not even doing anything special with the camera. You sound like the old guys I used to meet in Tannen's Magic store in Manhattan who used to goof on Doug Henning's hippie TV shows. Or the guys who used to complain about gimmicked coins because they were pure coin manipulators. Doug had a lot to do with the escalation of effects that now require large groups of shills. It is all part of the growth of magic in popular entertainment on TV. The skill of the magician in misdirection is all part of the personality of the performer selling his bit. There are a million guys in local magic organizations with huge magic chops but they have zero personality to sell the effects in a big way. That is the skill that Chriss has, he makes people believe. Not you and not me, but plenty of people who love his shows. Doug just got out of the game before this technique became popular as the stunts escalated. Copperfield is no stranger to the use of this technique, it is necessary for huge effects. He has used it plenty. He also is a great magician who can do lots of great close up stuff. He has the personality to sell the trick, that is what makes it magic. As the network shows came and went the need for bigger and bigger stunts to draw an audience drove magic to this technique. Chriss is the first guy to use it almost exclusively, but that is part of the larger than life show biz reality that is the market today. I'm sure he could sit you down at a table and do all the old school stuff too but that isn't selling right now. Personally I really enjoy close up magic. But even here technology has been pushing the limits for years. At first coin manipulators used real coins. But as people got used to the effects possible this way they started to invent gimmicked coins to produce even more magical effects. Ever see a cigarette pushed through the center of a coin? But it still comes down to the personality of the magician to turn it into a magical effect. That is why you have so many magic geeks with thousands of dollars of equipment who can't amaze anyone. The magic isn't in the effects they bought. It is in personality and people knowledge of the performer. I work with a few magicians on the boardwalk where I play. Some of them are such masters of human physiology and they turn the simplest old time tricks into miracles for the crowd. They have superior language skills. They know that announcing that they are holding an ordinary deck of playing cards is a rookie mistake because it makes the audience think about magic decks like the one they are holding. Chriss doesn't float my boat, but he isn't entertaining old guys like us. Doug would never sell today, just as Blackstone had his day and now it is gone. But the advance of the intrinsic technical bullshittery that supports magical effects is unstoppable. TV changed everything. Doug was an innovator in making TV magic cool again. David Copperfield and Blaine both took it to another level. Now Chriss is the rock star magician of the minute. He gets all the hot chicks for now. To his credit, his book is a rant against people trying to sell tricks as real magic. He doesn't approve of people using magical tricks to make gullible people believe a person has actual magical powers like Penn and Teller's education show. That is a time honored value of magic in public education that goes all the way back to Houdini. So roll over Beethoven, and tell Tchaikovsky the news! I don't mind if folks are entertained by him, cuz, hell, they're entertained by Pro wrestling, and gulp, I'm entertained by actors doing all sorts of things that are merely camera tricks. But when Criss blurs the line between cheap ass camera tricksters with paid audience and true magician who can so sleight of hand, prop tricks, and knows all the subtle diverting the gaze methods. I don't know what Criss has accomplished along these scholarly lines that require thousands of hours of practicing, but he sure isn't showing any skills if you ask me. I wouldn't let this guy marry my sister. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIwcVAxZsUmode=relatedsearch If not it's definately the best trick I have seen until now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
Any 55 year old hetro man who does not find at least some 25 year old women attractive, has a stick so far up his butt, it must be painful even walking to the domes. And vice versa for all age, gender, and gender preference combinations. And heaven forbid someone should actually seek to interact with, talk, with, someone they find attractive. The Shame!!! The Horror!. And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would an enlightened person become overshadowed by sexual lust? In Cosmic Consciousness, the Being supposedly would not be overshadowed by the influences that normally set off sexual 'triggers' in an ignorant person. These would be sexual triggers such as increased heart rate and sex hormones that flood the blood stream from perceptions given off from the opposite sex, i.e., hair, butt, tits, eyes, legs, crotch, groin, etc. In God Consciousness, in which the finest level of creation is appreciated, even the celestial gods that are responsible for exciting partners, i.e., Cupid would not overshadow the Being. In Unity Consciousness, all sexual influences would be perceived as That. All sexual implications regarding the bodily functions and the mental pictures which trigger these desires would be seen on the level of Pure Consciousness. The mental pictures associated with sexual desires would be appreciated as experiences from this life as well as stemming from past lives in which we were men and women engaged in countless sexual affairs. For the enlightened, this influence would not affect them no matter how subtle, like eating, sleeping, etc. That's how I understand it. An enlightened person would get influenced by sexual lust if that person had an issue or vasana with lust and had not yet dealt with it. If you want to define enlighenment as not being affected by anything like lust or whatever, fine, but the myth of most eastern spiritual movt's is that a person's deep seated vasanas get resolved automatically as they do consciousness related practices. Certain practices may promote a centered awareness that may make it easier to deal with one's issues, but they still have to be dealt with consciously and many eastern spiritual groups have an issue with dealing with one's issues, ie, analyzing the mud etc. This is why there's so much mental and emotional weirdness in long term tmo campus types who religiously avoid dealing with their traumas or accept the premise that they just can't have any emotional problems because they've done program for 30 yrs, or to put it another way, I've known dozens of long term sidhas who suffered throughout their adult life until they got conscious help dealing with childhood abuse experiences. 30 yrs of program had done NOTHING to release the negative effects of the abuse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set -- the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- I thought he was saying that age does *not* correlate with emotional maturity--that an older man who pursues younger women is emotionally immature. The implication in his statement, IMO, was that youngerwomen are less mature than older women. Right, which is probably true in most cases, for both men and women. His suggestion is that *lack* of correlation in (some) men accounts for their attraction to younger women whose chronological age *is* correlated to their emotional maturity. more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. Boy, I don't know how you came up with this-- it doesn't even fit with what you said to start with. See above. Yeah, I think you got the second part backwards. Should be a woman 10 years older is more emotionally mature than one 10 years younger. Otherwise your two statements immediately above are contradictory. But I also seriously doubt that a formula like that would apply across the board. A woman might well be mature beyond her years, for one thing; and for another, emotional-age differences tend to decrease as folks get older. A 50-year-old and a 60-year-old are likely to be much closer in emotional age than a 30-year-old and a 20-year-old, even though the chronological age difference is the same. In any case, I suspect that the biological imperative is much more significant than emotional immaturity in men, generally speaking, as the explanation for why men have traditionally sought mates younger than themselves. The younger the woman, the more children she can bear the man before her menopause; and presumably the man will remain capable of siring offspring more or less indefinitely, until he's so decrepit he can no longer function sexually. Plus which, up to a point, the older the man, the better able he'll be to support and protect the woman and her children while she's busy churning them out and raising them. In other words, that men are attracted to younger women is an evolutionary survival trait. Hmmm, if we put Vaj's theory and the biological imperative together, maybe emotional immaturity in men is also an evolutionary survival trait... Good points. And though you mention only immature men, clearly immaturity is not a isolated to men. That was the issue here, i.e., a theory for why (some) men are attracted to younger women. It may be why some women are attracted to younger men as well, possibly for a similar reason, but that wasn't what we were discussing, so I didn't mention it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure TM had absolutely nothing to do with the success of this principal. The success of the school preceded consideration of the prinicipal for the award. The TM program was implemented in only the past year or two, at most. The principal has been there for eight years. With that length of history, pre and post implementation of the TM program, there might be objective indicators of the degree of improvement in student test scores, suspensions / expulsions, etc that would give indication of TMs effect on the school's performance. The statement that you're sure that TM had absolutely nothiing to do with the success of this principal is curious. On what do you base your certainty? In contrast to the principal's own words on the video, perhaps you have separate evidence the principal denies TMs effect on the success of his school, such as notes from a personal consultation with him on the subject, and permission from him to waive confidentiality to let everyone know what he thinks..hardly. --- mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph. One wonders how much the TM-feature of the school curriculum was known by the bestowers of the National Middle School Principal of the Year award. Either way, it's a big win for the TM org. If they knew about TM at at the school, the TM-factor must already have a significant degree of acceptance among the educational intelligensia. If the TM- factor were unknown, the award opens a window for the TM org to gain credibility. The David Lynch foundation video on the school, with its testimonial from the principal, shows the school community's depth of appreciation for the TM technique. It was wise to capture those sentiments for posterity some months ago, before the award was bestowed, because Success has 1,000 authors. Even the California Masonic Temple website has a story about the award, and mentioned the principal is a Mason. The award should be a real gem, for all involved, and the TM org would be remiss were they to not have the glow of this award fall upon them, as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, new.morning wrote: Any 55 year old hetro man who does not find at least some 25 year old women attractive, has a stick so far up his butt, it must be painful even walking to the domes. Well you can find them attractive, but it doesn't mean you'd want to enter into a sexual and intimate emotional relationship with them. And vice versa for all age, gender, and gender preference combinations. And heaven forbid someone should actually seek to interact with, talk, with, someone they find attractive. The Shame!!! The Horror!. Why would one want to limit interaction based on age? And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. A friend of mine who will only date younger, beautiful women claims that older women have too much ama (bio-physical toxins)! He would absolutely refuse to have sex or kiss anyone with too much ama.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: My partner has always interestingly 'pined: 'Men who search after younger women are looking for a mate their own emotional age.' In other words you're attracted to someone your own emotional age (as opposed to your biological age). If I understand your point, that is such a strange mind set - - the premise that age correlates with emotional maturity -- I thought he was saying that age does *not* correlate with emotional maturity--that an older man who pursues younger women is emotionally immature. The implication in his statement, IMO, was that youngerwomen are less mature than older women. Right, which is probably true in most cases, for both men and women. His suggestion is that *lack* of correlation in (some) men accounts for their attraction to younger women whose chronological age *is* correlated to their emotional maturity. more specifically that a woman 10 years younger is more emotionally mature than one 10 years older. Boy, I don't know how you came up with this-- it doesn't even fit with what you said to start with. See above. Yeah, I think you got the second part backwards. Should be a woman 10 years older is more emotionally mature than one 10 years younger. Otherwise your two statements immediately above are contradictory. But I also seriously doubt that a formula like that would apply across the board. A woman might well be mature beyond her years, for one thing; and for another, emotional-age differences tend to decrease as folks get older. A 50-year-old and a 60-year-old are likely to be much closer in emotional age than a 30-year-old and a 20-year-old, even though the chronological age difference is the same. In any case, I suspect that the biological imperative is much more significant than emotional immaturity in men, generally speaking, as the explanation for why men have traditionally sought mates younger than themselves. The younger the woman, the more children she can bear the man before her menopause; and presumably the man will remain capable of siring offspring more or less indefinitely, until he's so decrepit he can no longer function sexually. Plus which, up to a point, the older the man, the better able he'll be to support and protect the woman and her children while she's busy churning them out and raising them. In other words, that men are attracted to younger women is an evolutionary survival trait. Hmmm, if we put Vaj's theory and the biological imperative together, maybe emotional immaturity in men is also an evolutionary survival trait... Good points. And though you mention only immature men, clearly immaturity is not a isolated to men. That was the issue here, i.e., a theory for why (some) men are attracted to younger women. It may be why some women are attracted to younger men as well, possibly for a similar reason, but that wasn't what we were discussing, so I didn't mention it. I apologize in advance for interjecting my reality in the midst of so much theory, but my experience is that my first wife is two years older than I am, and my second is seven years older... I also find younger women attractive, but I tend to enjoy complexity and wisdom more than youth in my relationships, and the younger ones just don't have the life experience and reflection to keep up. No dis on them, but not attracted enough to the relative youthfulness to consider a life partner as a result. Of course this whole thread was spawned by Turq's experience in a bar, which is quite a ways apart from consideration of a life partner.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
new.morning wrote: snip Edg said, if I understood him, that a 40 yer old has nothing to offer a 25 year old, And vice versa. Holy horse shit man! What a odd view of life. Edg: I don't think I said that, and I sure don't believe that. Adults with kids? -- win/win. All the generations at a family pot luck? -- pure gold. Letting your 21 year old daughter go alone to a Playboy Club without her knowing the ways of men? -- 100% chance of her being abused, tricked, lied to, and much worse. The 21 year old will be insulted if you forbid her going there, cuz, Im an adult now, but at 21, she's almost certain to not have had the hard knocks to give her the armor to ward off the kinds of attacks men can come up with. We are angry when we hear about an adult having sex with a minor -- why? Cuz we know the minor is at risk ALWAYS when an adult has a self serving agenda. But don't miss the fact that at any age, one can be mere child's play to a predator. Consider the power of lies. Consider that priests are able to get so many alter boys to have sex with them -- despite the fact that the boys are in a religious setting where sex is definitely not seen, spoken about, or espoused -- except the usual: it's okay after marriage. Consider it. These priests are able to rape the boys and do this despite heavy anti-sex brain washing of the boys' minds by the church dogma. The concept here is that an adult can be so devious and the child is so innocent that the child never has a chance to deflect a well planned attack from an adult predator. Well, take the next step. A man who's 20 years older is worldly enough to know that to have sex with a young woman, all that's required is the proper set of lies and not much else. Google it. Guess how many women -- very mature, experienced women -- get ripped off by those serial-huckster types who do whatever it takes to get a woman's confidence, and the next thing you know, her money's gone. It's, again, child's play if the perpetrator has no qualms about how big the lies are. If my daughter associates with a much older man, she may be educated by his teachings, inspired by his accomplishments, entertained by his well-practiced personality routines, and think that this guy's life should be written up for everyone to admire. There could be no end to the benefits to her, but the very second that his hand touches her shoulder or he gets close enough to smell her hair, I would want an alarm bell to ring inside her head, and I'd want her to immediately and directly confront the invasion of her personal space by the man. It should not be brushed aside by the man as nothing sexual -- not in today's PC-correctness world. If a man is unwilling to admit what kinds of thoughts his libido is generating, and if he's unwilling to examine the power they have over his rationalizations when a sweet young thing enters the room, then he is not fit to be trusted around such women. The power of women's allure to men is renown; the derision that all the world has for the dog-lust randiness of men is seen in the most ancient writings, and if these two concepts are missing from the mindfulness of either my daughter or the older man, then sex may happen even if neither party planned it. A 21 year old woman has no idea just how powerfully wonderful an older man can seem to be compared to the kiddie-brains of boys her age. It may seem like true love to her when she processes all the inspirational feelings that being in the presence of anyone of accomplishment can arouse. True love is not about infatuation, but the sheer difficulty to tell the difference between the two is legendary. Hence, the time honored controls that parents put upon their children. And what about birds of a feather? A 40 year old guy should be mostly hanging around with other 40 year olds who can see him for what he is with the same wisdom from years of life. If he's hanging with young girls, sorry, but as much as they might all be win-winning, if he's having sex or is willing to have sex with them, he's a predator who's trying to target outside his age range in order to more easily score with those who cannot judge his true value. He's a pedophile-esque hunter -- creepy. I have four kids. I know what it's like to meet their friends and see where their generation's heads are at. I have been FORCED to learn the new jargons, memorize the names of teenyboppers, rappers, and pantyless sluts amuck in public, and I've learned to be able to keep my mouth shut when they're all into something, well, childish. My 30 year old kids are still children in so many ways, and I love that about them, but I will not allow their innocence's beauty to obscure their vulnerabilities. I warn and warn and warn them -- it takes a lot of attending to be mature enough to meet life's risks. If you want to be with much younger people than you, chances are good you're in denial about something in your psychology. Yeah,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, new.morning wrote: snip And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. A friend of mine who will only date younger, beautiful women claims that older women have too much ama (bio-physical toxins)! He would absolutely refuse to have sex or kiss anyone with too much ama. Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed.
[FairfieldLife] Why does the veil of illusion even exist?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amy Hard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste GuruJ. OM Namo Narayan - In response to your post below: Why does the veil of illusion even exist? I realize it's a joke, but it seems like a cruel one. :( 0- one got lost in the story and the projections and this is pointed to also if you remember how Satan became Satan. In the beginning he was the Head of the chior of Angels. But he decided he wanted to have the glory for himself and so came the fall and the infamous identity as Satan took place as Ego. Also if you remember the Garden of Eden they had it all - walked with God - were in paradise- but they chose *knowledge* hahahaahahahahah All they knew at that point was Good - but they chose to know good versus evil. Duality - whoosh and a limited physical body at that point was brought into being to hold the eternal spirit, and their years upon the earth was limited. This was still compassion. So much for chosing to know good versus evil. - OK we tire of that game and sin. Sin means nothing more than separation. So in the end with all those pointings we chose OUR way aka EGO and to become individual gods - and this is also in the bible rather than Knowing the One God. So much for the preachiology today. hahahahahahaahahahah The Good News is that the way back is open. hahahhahahahahaahahaha One can't beat paradise. Immersed within the One is infinitely better than being trapped in the numerous as a one. Love, Amy Maha Shanti
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'One Defintion of Enlightenment', also ice cream
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the soul expands and overshadows the body, Then you realize you are the energy of the soul, And you no longer experience yourself, as the body, But you experience yourself as an energy called 'The Soul'. In other words, when the energy of the soul, expands enough... You experience yourself as energy, and not body. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. This is for those who never tasted ice cream: It is sweet, really really creamy, cold, and melts when warmed up - ok, now do you fully get it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed. 60 is the new 40. Spread the word! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, new.morning wrote: snip And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. A friend of mine who will only date younger, beautiful women claims that older women have too much ama (bio-physical toxins)! He would absolutely refuse to have sex or kiss anyone with too much ama. Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advanced Techniques?
cardemaister wrote: As I recall it (might well misremember...), my TM teacher said that the purpose of advanced techniques is to *slow down* transcending, so that one has more time to watch the scenery, to become more familiar with different levels of creation, or stuff. MMY said they were like manure. :) What he meant is they were like fertilizer to the process of developing enlightenment. Of course I recall quite a laugh on that tape. However what they are really just more like the traditional mantra for Saraswati minus Om of course. These mantras, being longer, transcend slower. The deepen the experience by keeping you there longer. The first technique bijas tend to bob up and down in consciousness.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:26 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, new.morning wrote: snip And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. A friend of mine who will only date younger, beautiful women claims that older women have too much ama (bio-physical toxins)! He would absolutely refuse to have sex or kiss anyone with too much ama. Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed. Actually, it's something I am quite familiar with. It's not unusual nowadays to see women undergo a croning ritual in celebration of menopause and their new station.
[FairfieldLife] TM in SF schools and others
Check out how still these middle-school students look during meditation in the first link below, a 7-minute video. To me it's beautiful! The principal of an American public high school in San Francisco, California has been awarded the prestigious title 'Principal of the Year'. The award was presented following a nationwide competition encompassing principals from 30,000 schools. The students and faculty at that school practice Transcendental Meditation, with daily group meditations held during school hours. The comprehensive benefits of the Transcendental Meditation Programme for students at all levels of education have been extensively documented by scientific research. Applauding the principal's achievement, Dr John Konhaus, Administrator of the Global Country of World Peace in California, commented that his success would pave the way for the introduction of Consciousness-Based Education throughout California. http://www.stressfreeschools.org/video/california_school.htmlhttp://www.stressfreeschools.org/video/california_school.html is a pretty cool video on the TM program at that school, and others. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/29/BA6MSGFG3.DTLhttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/29/BA6MSGFG3.DTL is the newspaper article.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Techniques?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall it (might well misremember...), my TM teacher said that the purpose of advanced techniques is to *slow down* transcending, so that one has more time to watch the scenery, to become more familiar with different levels of creation, or stuff. Yes. As I recall from Maharishi, the additional mantras allow the attention to stay in the subtler levels longer, thereby activating the subtler corresponding structures of the nervous system. The idea being so that the person can, when outside of meditation, begin to perceive relativity at its finer levels of value - ultimately perceiving at the level of Divinity - where one sees God in everything at the level of the senses. This leads to God Consciousness where Maharishi stated that every particle of every experience becomes a tidal wave of joy on the ocean of Bliss.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
snip And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. I'm afraid it's the pheromones that increase your levels of oxytocin, testosterone and stuff. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, BARRY relax
In the past 100,000 years millions of women have died during child-birth. The casualty rate was high both for the child and the mother. Only 20th century medical technology has brought the casualty rate down. authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:08:36 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, BARRY relax Not only that, Nature performs an abortion on a large percentage of *fertilized* eggs as well. Not to mention all the perfectly viable frozen *embryos* created by in vitro fertilization that are discarded as so much garbage. And statistically speaking, Nature performs an abortion on up to 50 percent of fertilized eggs/ embryos/fetuses. That's called a miscarriage, and the vast majority of them occur before the woman even knows she's pregnant. God Himself allows all those wonderful human babies to be flushed right down the toilet. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[FairfieldLife] ALEX, is this Real.??
Hey, sir Alex, could you tell me if this is REAL..?? http://www.bio.net/hypermail/biomatrx/2001-June/001279.html - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Gem's from Bhagavan: Fate and Freewill - 2
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:49:58 +0100 Subject: Gem's from Bhagavan: Fate and Freewill - 2 Everything is predetermined. But a man is always free not to identify himself with the body, and not to be affected by the pleasures or pains consequent on the body's activities. (from Gems from Bhagavan, selected by A. Devaraja Mudaliar) - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new.morning wrote: snip Edg said, if I understood him, that a 40 yer old has nothing to offer a 25 year old, And vice versa. Holy horse shit man! What a odd view of life. Edg: I don't think I said that, and I sure don't believe that. Adults with kids? -- win/win. All the generations at a family pot luck? -- pure gold. Letting your 21 year old daughter go alone to a Playboy Club without her knowing the ways of men? -- 100% chance of her being abused, tricked, lied to, and much worse. The 21 year old will be insulted if you forbid her going there, cuz, Im an adult now, but at 21, she's almost certain to not have had the hard knocks to give her the armor to ward off the kinds of attacks men can come up with. We are angry when we hear about an adult having sex with a minor -- why? Cuz we know the minor is at risk ALWAYS when an adult has a self serving agenda. But don't miss the fact that at any age, one can be mere child's play to a predator. Consider the power of lies. Consider that priests are able to get so many alter boys to have sex with them -- despite the fact that the boys are in a religious setting where sex is definitely not seen, spoken about, or espoused -- except the usual: it's okay after marriage. Consider it. These priests are able to rape the boys and do this despite heavy anti-sex brain washing of the boys' minds by the church dogma. The concept here is that an adult can be so devious and the child is so innocent that the child never has a chance to deflect a well planned attack from an adult predator. Well, take the next step. A man who's 20 years older is worldly enough to know that to have sex with a young woman, all that's required is the proper set of lies and not much else. Google it. Guess how many women -- very mature, experienced women - - get ripped off by those serial-huckster types who do whatever it takes to get a woman's confidence, and the next thing you know, her money's gone. It's, again, child's play if the perpetrator has no qualms about how big the lies are. If my daughter associates with a much older man, she may be educated by his teachings, inspired by his accomplishments, entertained by his well-practiced personality routines, and think that this guy's life should be written up for everyone to admire. There could be no end to the benefits to her, but the very second that his hand touches her shoulder or he gets close enough to smell her hair, I would want an alarm bell to ring inside her head, and I'd want her to immediately and directly confront the invasion of her personal space by the man. It should not be brushed aside by the man as nothing sexual -- not in today's PC-correctness world. If a man is unwilling to admit what kinds of thoughts his libido is generating, and if he's unwilling to examine the power they have over his rationalizations when a sweet young thing enters the room, then he is not fit to be trusted around such women. The power of women's allure to men is renown; the derision that all the world has for the dog-lust randiness of men is seen in the most ancient writings, and if these two concepts are missing from the mindfulness of either my daughter or the older man, then sex may happen even if neither party planned it. A 21 year old woman has no idea just how powerfully wonderful an older man can seem to be compared to the kiddie-brains of boys her age. It may seem like true love to her when she processes all the inspirational feelings that being in the presence of anyone of accomplishment can arouse. True love is not about infatuation, but the sheer difficulty to tell the difference between the two is legendary. Hence, the time honored controls that parents put upon their children. And what about birds of a feather? A 40 year old guy should be mostly hanging around with other 40 year olds who can see him for what he is with the same wisdom from years of life. If he's hanging with young girls, sorry, but as much as they might all be win-winning, if he's having sex or is willing to have sex with them, he's a predator who's trying to target outside his age range in order to more easily score with those who cannot judge his true value. He's a pedophile-esque hunter -- creepy. I have four kids. I know what it's like to meet their friends and see where their generation's heads are at. I have been FORCED to learn the new jargons, memorize the names of teenyboppers, rappers, and pantyless sluts amuck in public, and I've learned to be able to keep my mouth shut when they're all into something, well, childish. My 30 year old kids are still children in so many ways, and I love that about them, but I will not allow their innocence's beauty to obscure their vulnerabilities. I warn and warn and warn
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any 55 year old hetro man who does not find at least some 25 year old women attractive, has a stick so far up his butt, it must be painful even walking to the domes. And vice versa for all age, gender, and gender preference combinations. And heaven forbid someone should actually seek to interact with, talk, with, someone they find attractive. The Shame!!! The Horror!. And as a side note, one quality that I find more abundant in 25 year old women, than many older women (and I am sure the same is true of men) -- and there are exceptions, is what I term shakti. This may be a different thing than the shakit talked about here. But there is something, some great energy, that is just radiating, dripping, efussing, sparkling, from some 25 year old women. Its energizing, enjoyable, and fun just to be in their aura for a while. A certain tradition in jyotish states that marriage is not determined by individuals. It is determined by the Supreme Being. Humans can only determine his or her fate in the following areas: 1. Personal efforts and valour, as signified by the 3rd house. 2. Struggle and work, as signified by the 6th house. 3. Career goals, as signified by the 10th house. 4. Personal gains, as signified by the 11th house. Since this house is a house of desire, people tend to include sex experiences in this category, as we can see from this thread. Nonetheless, these experiences do not necessarily relate to marriages.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
You made a very important point maam Judy. During the Zero wave ie before the coming of Agriculture, Women had lot of power including the right to choose her own mate. The coming of the First wave ie Agriculture eroded her rights and relgated her place in society to a secondary status. You said she is being redeemed. Yes, that is the coming of the Third wave. The equality of the Yin-Yang balance of Nature in human society will be Restored. Colour prejudice and Gender prejudice still exist in many parts of the world and they should be removed from the Human culture no matter where they exist. In the past 100 years Memes are driving the human evolution and they are shifting into overdrive. Conversely the influence of genes are becoming less and less. Some scientists even go to the extent of saying that we will eventually reach a point where the influence of genes will be Zero..!! Our relationships with each other is basicaly defined by whether we share the same Memes or Values. Take for example our forum FFL. It nothing but Memes slugging out with each other.!! Coming back to the point, Quality Wholistic education is necessary to bring further refinements to the human civilisation. authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:26:45 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed. - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
[FairfieldLife] Good fences make good neighbours
Good fences make good neighbors, scientists find Sept. 13, 2007 World Science staff Can the cold reashy;sonshy;ashy;bleshy;ness of math head off the flamshy;ing irrashy;tshy;ionalshy;ity of vishy;oshy;lent conshy;flict? Mayshy;be, say reshy;searchshy;ers who this week reshy;ported that a mathshy;eshy;matshy;ishy;cal modshy;el can preshy;dict where ethshy;nic batshy;tle will erupt. Such studshy;ies could help polshy;ishy;cyshy;makers deshy;vise soshy;lushy;tions beshy;fore probshy;lems get out of hand, the scishy;enshy;tists said. More than 100 milshy;lion peoshy;ple have died in vishy;oshy;lent conshy;flict in the past censhy;tushy;ry, they added, ofshy;ten beshy;cause of clashes beshy;tween ethshy;nicshy;ally or culshy;turshy;ally disshy;tinct groups. The inshy;vesshy;tishy;gashy;tors found that ethshy;nicshy;ally mixed arshy;eas with poorly deshy;fined boundshy;aries were prone to conshy;flict. The stushy;dy, by scishy;enshy;tists at the New Engshy;land Comshy;plex Sysshy;tems Inshy;stishy;tute in Camshy;bridge, Mass., and Branshy;deis Unshy;iversshy;ity in Walshy;tham, Mass., apshy;pears in the Sept. 14 isshy;sue of the reshy;search jourshy;nal Scishy;ence. The aushy;thors deshy;vised a modshy;el based on the asshy;sumpshy;tion that vishy;oshy;lence doesshy;nt arise in highly mixed reshy;gions, since no groups conshy;sidshy;er the space enshy;tirely their own. Vishy;oshy;lence is alshy;so unshy;likely in reshy;gions where groups are sepshy;ashy;rate, beshy;cause they dont imshy;pose on each othshy;er and the boundshy;aries are clear. Inshy;stead, parshy;tial separashy;tshy;ion with unshy;clear boundshy;aries fosshy;ters conshy;flict, the reshy;searchshy;ers said. The modshy;el acshy;cushy;rately preshy;dicted the locashy;tshy;ions of reshy;ported conshy;flict in the formshy;er Yushy;goshy;slashy;via and in Inshy;dia, the scishy;enshy;tists reshy;ported. In esshy;sence, they said, the situashy;tshy;ion is much as deshy;scribed by the poshy;et Robshy;ert Frost in a well-known poshy;em, good fences make good neighshy;bors. Vishy;oshy;lence takes place when an ethshy;nic group is large enough to imshy;pose culshy;turshy;al norms on pubshy;lic spaces, but not large enough to preshy;vent those norms from beshy;ing broshy;ken, said Branshy;deis reshy;searcher May Lim. Usually this ocshy;curs in places where boundshy;aries beshy;tween groups are unshy;clear. Reshy;flectshy;ing an emergshy;ing dishy;recshy;tion in scishy;ence apshy;plied to soshy;cial polshy;ishy;cy, the study apshy;plied scishy;enshy;tifshy;ic prinshy;cishy;ples of patshy;tern formashy;tshy;ionofshy;ten used to deshy;scribe, for exshy;amshy;ple, how chemshy;ishy;cals sepshy;ashy;rate by type or by stateto a thorny soshy;cial probshy;lem. The reshy;searchshy;ers found that ethshy;nic vishy;oshy;lence ocshy;curs in preshy;dictable patshy;terns, just as do othshy;er colshy;lecshy;tive beshy;havshy;iors in othshy;er physshy;ishy;cal and bishy;oshy;logshy;ishy;cal sysshy;tems. The conshy;cept of patshy;tern formashy;tshy;ion, while it may have been origshy;ishy;nally deshy;velshy;oped to unshy;dershy;stand chemshy;ishy;cal sysshy;tems, is really a scishy;enshy;tifshy;ic modshy;el of colshy;lecshy;tive beshy;havshy;iors, in which you look at those asshy;pects that conshy;trol overshy;all beshy;havshy;ior, said co-author and Comshy;plex Sysshy;tems Inshy;stishy;tute presshy;ident Yashy;neer Bar-Yam. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'One Defintion of Enlightenment', also ice cream
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote This is for those who never tasted ice cream: It is sweet, really really creamy, cold, and melts when warmed up - ok, now do you fully get it? Yes, now I fully get it... That's the mystery of it all, isn't it? The very thing that animates the body, Is over-looked. The soul is such a mystery- what is it? How do you explain it? Where do you find it? Paradox.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lust is omnipresent. As long as you've got a body, it's gonna happen, unless you're tired or past it or hopelessly repressed. No, no, no, a thousand times no! Lust is an energy devoid of love, heart and soul. It is an outward sensory experience. Greed is also like that. And the rest of the lower impulses, of the lower chakras. An enlightened person, doesn't experience lust. By definition: lust is devoid of love. When a person is enlightened, he is awakened to his/her true nature, of the soul, which is love, truth, and all the higher qualities of spirituality. So, sexual intimacy in enlightenment, is a high form of Tantra, and is an intimate expression of love. Many creative artist, were and are very passionate in love. Lust is an entirely different matter. We are here to learn many things: And one of the most important is to notice the difference; Between lust and love. We are so confused as a race, when it comes to sex. Priests molest children. All kinds of perversions. All this has nothing to do with love. Lust is another vibration, like greed, and in a way, like killing. It's a perversion of love.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust
You are correct Shri. Gimbel. Lust comes from the Second Chakra ie Orange Chakra. Love comes from the higher chakras. Unconditional Love ie Compassion comes only after Enlightenment. Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:39:34 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust No, no, no, a thousand times no! Lust is an energy devoid of love, heart and soul. It is an outward sensory experience. Greed is also like that. And the rest of the lower impulses, of the lower chakras. An enlightened person, doesn't experience lust. By definition: lust is devoid of love. When a person is enlightened, he is awakened to his/her true nature, of the soul, which is love, truth, and all the higher qualities of spirituality. So, sexual intimacy in enlightenment, is a high form of Tantra, and is an intimate expression of love. Many creative artist, were and are very passionate in love. Lust is an entirely different matter. We are here to learn many things: And one of the most important is to notice the difference; Between lust and love. We are so confused as a race, when it comes to sex. Priests molest children. All kinds of perversions. All this has nothing to do with love. Lust is another vibration, like greed, and in a way, like killing. It's a perversion of love. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
During the Zero wave ie before the coming of Agriculture, Women had lot of power including the right to choose her own mate. Let me guess, this was discussed on the pre-agricultural The View TV show, which, if I remember correctly, was still hosted by Barbara Walters back then. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You made a very important point maam Judy. During the Zero wave ie before the coming of Agriculture, Women had lot of power including the right to choose her own mate. The coming of the First wave ie Agriculture eroded her rights and relgated her place in society to a secondary status. You said she is being redeemed. Yes, that is the coming of the Third wave. The equality of the Yin-Yang balance of Nature in human society will be Restored. Colour prejudice and Gender prejudice still exist in many parts of the world and they should be removed from the Human culture no matter where they exist. In the past 100 years Memes are driving the human evolution and they are shifting into overdrive. Conversely the influence of genes are becoming less and less. Some scientists even go to the extent of saying that we will eventually reach a point where the influence of genes will be Zero..!! Our relationships with each other is basicaly defined by whether we share the same Memes or Values. Take for example our forum FFL. It nothing but Memes slugging out with each other.!! Coming back to the point, Quality Wholistic education is necessary to bring further refinements to the human civilisation. authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:26:45 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman Y'all need to read up on the Crone. Hers is a much more powerful, much more profound energy than most men can deal with. It's no wonder your friend finds her terrifying. That's why the patriarchal culture repressed and demeaned her; but lately she's being reclaimed. - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: Why would an enlightened person become overshadowed by sexual lust? In Cosmic Consciousness, the Being supposedly would not be overshadowed by the influences that normally set off sexual 'triggers' in an ignorant person. These would be sexual triggers such as increased heart rate and sex hormones that flood the blood stream from perceptions given off from the opposite sex, i.e., hair, butt, tits, eyes, legs, crotch, groin, etc. In God Consciousness, in which the finest level of creation is appreciated, even the celestial gods that are responsible for exciting partners, i.e., Cupid would not overshadow the Being. In Unity Consciousness, all sexual influences would be perceived as That. All sexual implications regarding the bodily functions and the mental pictures which trigger these desires would be seen on the level of Pure Consciousness. The mental pictures associated with sexual desires would be appreciated as experiences from this life as well as stemming from past lives in which we were men and women engaged in countless sexual affairs. For the enlightened, this influence would not affect them no matter how subtle, like eating, sleeping, etc. That's how I understand it. An enlightened person would get influenced by sexual lust if that person had an issue or vasana with lust and had not yet dealt with it. If you want to define enlighenment as not being affected by anything like lust or whatever, fine, but the myth of most eastern spiritual movt's is that a person's deep seated vasanas get resolved automatically as they do consciousness related practices. Certain practices may promote a centered awareness that may make it easier to deal with one's issues, but they still have to be dealt with consciously and many eastern spiritual groups have an issue with dealing with one's issues, ie, analyzing the mud etc. This is why there's so much mental and emotional weirdness in long term tmo campus types who religiously avoid dealing with their traumas or accept the premise that they just can't have any emotional problems because they've done program for 30 yrs, or to put it another way, I've known dozens of long term sidhas who suffered throughout their adult life until they got conscious help dealing with childhood abuse experiences. 30 yrs of program had done NOTHING to release the negative effects of the abuse. I didn't thankfully have abuse issues to work out, but the rest of your post rings true-- I too had fallen into the belief that I didn't have to consciously face my issues, that TM would magically dissolve them. It was only when I recognized that this wasn't happening that I was able to explore and resolve areas of my life that very much needed some examination. It was and is a fairly simple process; something rises to the fore and so I look at it, and begin to examine why it has over balanced my awareness in its favor. This then leads to a direct confrontation with whatever it is grabbing my attention, which although I don't know how big or deep the issue is, is just a matter of staying with it, keeping my attention on it, and traveling with it, sometimes backwards, sometimes forwards, into the other four directions (up, down, in and out), sometimes into a mutation, and sometimes to complete dissolution, until it is resolved into its balanced dimensions, if it continues to exist at all. Then on to the next one. Much easier now that I can see such things without any sort of justification or rationalization blocking their clear view.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'One Defintion of Enlightenment', also ice cream
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote This is for those who never tasted ice cream: It is sweet, really really creamy, cold, and melts when warmed up - ok, now do you fully get it? Yes, now I fully get it... That's the mystery of it all, isn't it? The very thing that animates the body, Is over-looked. The soul is such a mystery- what is it? How do you explain it? Where do you find it? Paradox. That 's the type of things 'they say. Here is a comment from an enlightened one about Maya: Namaste GuruJ. Namaste Dear One, *In response to your post below: Why does the veil of illusion even exist? S The truth is that illusion does not exist in reality It appears real due to a knot of attachment that has been formed A mistake or misperception assuming the body and mind are the self This mistake is formed by self interested activity - wanting enjoyment and good things for the self...wanting to know and gather in this way the movement of ignorance (attachment to mind and body) is perpetuated and seems to be a separate entity, but it cannot be- it is truly the forces of nature or clashing energy that are taking place - it is energy bound and energy patterns in motion. In truth, there is no separate, objective existence, but the one caught in illusion takes the projections for reality and wanders there. *I realize it's a joke, but it seems like a cruel one. :( S The joke is not God's - God is faultless, free from all the antics...it is karma in motion/past actions and all, so to be free of the mistake, the tools of the heart (spiritual practices and guides) manifest to the sincere seeker. The cosmic joke is had when the knot is dissolved and the understanding comes that all is God - that there has never been a seeker, nothing separate has ever and can ever exist...this is the good laugh that gets all kinds of mileage. Love, Amy May the laughter bloom continue to allow the petals to unfold Om Shanti Siddhananda
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
In pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer societies life was so tough and every member of the tribe was valuable. You cannot afford to suppress or Oppress anybody in those circumstances. You are busy most of the time trying to find food. Food was scarce. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:02:52 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman Let me guess, this was discussed on the pre-agricultural The View TV show, which, if I remember correctly, was still hosted by Barbara Walters back then. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
http://dcist.com/2007/10/02/major_developme.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick FLAMING 2
I don't know if Shankara had that attitude. He went into the body of an householder and witness martial life for a month and then returned back to his body. Probably the purusha had that attitude. You are correct. Viewing women as enemies is very immature. Such people have a long way to go in evolution. If MMY did use his dick, the cost must be heavy. Two women are to write a book.?? curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:22:14 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick FLAMING 2 People who are insulted by Rick offering certain women's experiences with their gurus, but are not insulted by the guru's reported behavior strike me as value challenged.. . Reporting what someone said to them about their experiences is far from gossip, and the jury is still out on whether it is fabrication isn't it? Trying to label it as gossip or fabrication when you don't have any direct knowledge is very TM movement, and wont work on people who have been around the block a bit. gossipy, roumormonging female tendency that was a loaded phrase wasn't it? It reveals the writers mistrust of women at the same time trying to use the old you are a girly man shaming argument as if this has worked on a dude since 1959. The biggest group of gossipers and rumormongers I ever met was when I lived with Purusha. Their inability to get along with women had as many causes as members. But there were plenty who took Shankara's lead and viewed women as a devious enemy, revealing their own social retardation. (not to be confused with calling them retards) These posts are vain attempts to shoot the messenger for information that some of us find interesting and credible. It is a feeble attempt to attack the person because you have nothing to refute the statements of women who felt a betrayal of trust from an authority figure, and you feel no sympathy for the human dilemma they found themselves in. Just the ol' protect the king and kill anyone who speaks against him. Even if you have to slander all women to do it. Gotta prove that MMY never used his dick at ANY cost! Good luck with that mission guys. Slamming Rick for offering their experiences to interested people is a nice mirror for your attitudes. And when and if there are revelations that Ravi or Amma turn out to be just folks like you and me I doubt Rick will be any more surprised than I would be. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
Some of the comments below the article are very funny and give a good snapshot of the general public's reaction to the TMO's style and its offerings. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dcist.com/2007/10/02/major_developme.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Archer/ The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization
With Leibniz, I've come to view this as a matter of pre-established harmony (of course with/among Sattva, Rajas Tamas, and not in any monadial sense). But who knows? (i.e. is this a Zen thing after all?) I guess that's why it is good to study the history of these debates (or not, if good is only conventionally meaningful anyway). BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sattva Purushayoh Atyantasamkirnayoh Pure consciousness and the active intelligence of Buddhi (the Me) have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Except that one (Intelligence) is a reflection of the other (Pure Consciousness). Intelligence is the dynamism and Pure Consciousness is the Silence... - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principal of the Year award goes to head of meditating school
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: All the bad publicity generated by the Terra Linda High School fracas, where some nutjob shouted TM out at a parents' meeting with the school principal, seems to be the reason why they are not mentioning the name of the school or the principal, but if that's the case, why mention it at all to a bunch of meditators -- just more preaching to the choir... well bob, i agree there was that big backlash in Marin county, so thats a good enough reason to keep this sorta secret. but now, they contradict and start chest beating ... probably not smart; with the cat out of the bag, the backlash is sure to reach this school too eventually. too bad, cause this school really needs TM and is very happy to have it, a real triumph. Aside from private schools, which are mostly white and where the parents tend to be more educated and tolerant of the notion of TM for their kids (and where issues of taxpayer support for TM are not relevant), TM seems to be making some headway only in black-majority schools (mostly charter schools, which although technically public, get to act as if they were private). I think this is because the situation in ghetto schools is so bad that the parents are willing to try anything that might help. But in more affluent (white) schools like Terra Linda, ordinary lightly-educated white parents do not suppress their ignorant reaction to TM because their lifestyle is not as full of violence as in a ghetto neighborhood/school.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
Marek, Bingo. I like your ideas, and yes, I think I've had some pretty hard knocks that have gotten me into an overly sensitive stance. My sister being marauded was but one exampleand other events have hardened me, because they happened right in front of me, and I failed to protect my loved ones even though I thought I was prepared and had prepared them for the attacks that came. I cannot write about it here without risking my peace of mind for a week -- have to keep this at psychic arm's length, cuz I have no recourse, no way to scrub off the scars from the deep cuts into my family's psyche by outlanders. I did my times in a personal hell railing against the forces of existence, but there's scant profit from in dwelling in that place. All I know is that if I were to be stranded on a desert island with any of the MEN who delivered MY karma to me, despite my beliefs that justice is perfect, I'd take matters in my own hands. Some of these men are pretty tough dudes, but they'd be bleeding and screaming within seconds of hitting the beach, and not a one of them would see the next day's light. These guys you see jumping the courtroom railing to get at the murderer of their loved one, just to get on fist in a smug face, that would be me. Death penalty? Too good. Way too good. If my heart is to feel that justice has been done, some of these MEN should be tortured for years with a host of doctors keeping them alive for the next day's torture. Only my faith in divine justice keeps me from going down a long dark road to my own doom. Only that constrains me from exacting revenge in this world, in this lifetime. They'll get what's coming, and it'll be over lifetimes -- their spiritual bones will be ground to dust. I'm not as broken as the above might indicate. I go on with life and try for all the pleasures, keep reading, keep writing, keep my mind off the darkness as much as possible. I laugh every day, I sing every day, I greet every day. But sore, raw, flaming red scars will still be pulsing on my deathbed. Hug your kids, hug your lovers, hug all that is precious to you and savor the moments while you can. Things can change. Edg Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg, there is some a priori assumption behind the views you express above that, regardless of the the concern and love that obviously inhabits them, nonetheless regards human sexuality as something inherently dangerous and, consequently, requiring all sorts of controls and warning labels, etc. In my job I sometimes need to get psych evals for my clients regarding their sexual interests; and anytime someone is found guilty of a molestation they have to get a pre-sentence eval to determine the likelihood of re-offending, and that also includes their sexual interests -- the sexual bandwitdth that they are attracted to. All the psychologists and psychiatrists say that for a normal heterosexual male that bandwidth is any female exhibiting secondary sexual characteristics like breasts and wider hips, etc. (i.e., as early as 13 or 14 years old and on up from there). That's the biology of male human beings in the hetero mode. Having two children, both a son and a daughter, both now adults and in stable, long-term relationships, I understand the concerns you've raised, but even during the most tumultuous portions of my childrens' adolescence (and trust me, there were some, and I've got a professional point of view now from which to evaluate them within a broad spectrum of human turmoil) I never felt that either of them needed to be warned about sexuality beyond the obvious and necessary health concerns. We did speak, of course, about the psychology of sexual attraction and the problems with bonding with someone whose overall influence on their lives might not be the best; your own story re your sister's first partner being a poignant example. And, using that same example, I admit that both of them (and me, too) were very lucky that nothing that extreme happened in either of their lives (though, arguably, one did walk pretty close to that edge). Should that have happened perhaps I would share some of your view more viscerally. But it's just that Nature is so profligate with creation and reproduction. The examples you cite are really just variations on the theme. Sex comes with problems, yes, but so does everything else. When is anyone prepared for the problems that come their way? Benefit and bane come packaged together. Lies and deceits are just as often employed in the boardroom and behind the contract as they are in a bar or in the bedroom. Women and men, though not the same, are equal in their capacity to do good or to do bad. A woman's heart and a man's are the same in their capacity to love and to their vulnerability to heartbreak. We're all just a bunch of monkeys thrashing it all out with the same underying motivations
[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the comments below the article are very funny and give a good snapshot of the general public's reaction to the TMO's style and its offerings. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: http://dcist.com/2007/10/02/major_developme.php ** At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not have TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on the sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are really Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a monk in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. Building these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what the ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to create this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough hillbillies in the world to stop it. http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
[FairfieldLife] Hubert Dreyfus Quote
Professor Dreyfus once made the following statement in class, transcribed verbatim (if I recall correctly) around mid-February, 2000. Once upon a time Transcendental Meditation was a big thing and my best students were transcendental meditators and the persuaded me to sign up for my mantra, and I did (I'm ready to try anything). Then after you get your mantra . . . you're shown a video of the Maha-rishi Yoga, the beutiful man with the big white beard who's the founder of all this, holding a rose; and the moral of it is (he's telling you) that thanks to Transcendental Meditation, you can get the rose without the thorns, that is, you can get the bliss without the risk. And after this beautiful video they they run around the room to ask people what they thought, and I had just come from teaching this course [Philosophy 7 - Existentialism in Literature and Film] and Kierkegaard, and I said 'Well, uh, if the devil himself came back to destroy Christianity in the West he would look just like THAT' [strong laughter follows]. That did not endear me to the other people [more laughter], but it is exactly what I think and what Kierkegaard would have said. Hubert Dreyfus, Ph.D. Harvard (he was Paul Tillich's teaching assistant), is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and Professor of Philosophy at University of California at Berkeley. He was President of the Pacific Division of the American Philosophical Association in 2004-05. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not have TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on the sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are really Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a monk in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. Building these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what the ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to create this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough hillbillies in the world to stop it. Hehe :-) But don't tell Vaj and Rick Archer ! http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
[FairfieldLife] Bad news for Bevan
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[FairfieldLife] Cure for Bevan
Cure for Bevan http://www.docbron.com/Meso-therapyCream.html bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:26:10 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bad news for Bevan http://tinyurl. com/2qxgab - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bad news for Bevan
You should also say that about fat old Gurdjieff - oh I'm sure you could have kicked his ass as well. Since your in the mood for lowbrow descrimination against overweight people, why not call up Howard Stern for some real action. bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2qxgab - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!
[FairfieldLife] France honours David Lynch, who asks President to build Tower of Invincibility
France honours David Lynch 'genius' PARIS ( 2007-10-01 21:37:43 ) : Cult US filmmaker David Lynch was awarded France's top honour on Monday by President Nicolas Sarkozy, who praised his eclectic genius before a room packed with film stars. My French is poor, but my heart is rich today thanks to you, Lynch told the president in halting French after receiving the Legion of Honour. It's no secret that I love France, the art-making, art-loving and art-supporting people of France, Lynch continued in English, flanked by his partner Emily Stofle, film director Roman Polanski, and actresses Fanny Ardant and Charlotte Rampling. I wish the very best for this great country and for you Mr president I wish you maximum success. Sarkozy told Lynch that seeing Elephant Man as a teenager had definitively convinced him that cinema was a highly important matter. I love your way of testing reality to discover the truth behind it, he told the man behind Sailor and Lula, Mulholland Drive and the television series Twin Peaks. I love your way of touching on everything: film, art, photography, even furniture. When I think people here call me the cannibal president, at last I meet a guy who wants to do more than I do! he quipped. Sarkozy said he appreciated Lynch's honesty and jokingly thanked him for his support despite the fact he was not sure that you and your friends are one-hundred percent right-wing. Lynch, who practices transcendental meditation in search of peace and invincibility, ended the meeting by asking Sarkozy to build a tower of invincibility in Paris. COPYRIGHT AFP (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE), 2007 See also: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7022158.stm - - ... Everything for everyone everywhere visit: www.globalgoodnews.com Positive Trendsread about the growing positivity in world events: http://www.globalgoodnews.com Successesushering in the Age of Enlightenment: http://www.globalgoodnews.com Watch Livedirect access to the Maharishi Channel: http://globalgoodnews.com/watch-live.html Excellence in Actionfor teachers and students: http://excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com Worldwide Linksthe major links to Maharishi's Programmes around the world: http://globalgoodnews.com/worldwide-links.html Peer Reviewed Researchhttp://www.globalgoodnews.com/research.html Maharishi's Weekly Press Conference Highlightsan archive of pure knowledge since 2004: http://globalgoodnews.com/watch-live.html Maharishi's Programmesevery aspect of life in terms of Maharishi's Vedic Science: http://maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com Celebration CalendarsThe Vedic Calendar and National Day Calendar: http://calendars.globalgoodnews.com Album of Eventsfeaturing slide shows from around the world: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/index.html Ultimate Gifts--bringing fulfilment to life: http://gifts.globalgoodnews.com GGN TV Adsfor your local television station: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/tv-ad.html The email you are subscribed with is [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe click here: Click here to unsubscribe To change your email click here: Click here to change your email To view previous newsletters go to: http://www.globalcountry.org.uk/news.php Our e-mail virus policy: All our subscriber newsletters are sent without attachments. If you (or anyone you know) happens to receive an unsolicited e-mail carrying an attachment appearing to be originating from us, please do NOT open it. We have NOT sent it. - Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail.
[FairfieldLife] Re:So, the magic of young women...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post. When I was a young girl, I thought my generation was superior because our beliefs and ideas weren't all boxed in like our parents'. We were willing to question basic assumptions -- like democracy, Christianity, the purpose of life -- and often come up with new, fresh answers. That made my peers exciting and -- sometimes, to me -- heroic. Now that I'm older, it ain't quite the same. My generation has become the parents, and grandparents. People who used to be so avant- guarde often now seem stodgy in their thinking, unwilling to keep growing and learning. As a generation, we've turned the fresh ideas of our youth into irrefutable systems. Our minds can be as closed as the very adults we once rebelled against -- for their close-mindedness! But when questioning, learning, growing and living remain core values, as they do for some people, aging doesn't have to happen. Such older folks are looked up to by the young, who hope that's the kind of person they themselves will mellow to become someday. - Bronte Or at least they hope to. And, let's face it, that hope is not often nurtured by the adults they see around them. Their parents, their grandparents, their uncles and aunts, their teachers, the adults they see in the offices they have to go into to get a driver's license or sign up for the next semes- ter at school...who among them would they want to *be like* when they grow up? Right? It's very, very rare for a young person in the last few generations to actually *meet* an older person they'd want to be like, or that they would even find interesting. That's what I hear over and over and over and over from some of these young folks who deign to talk to me. I think they talk to me because I'm weird as shit, and at my age. And that *interests* them, IMO partly because they've met so few people in their lives my age who *were* still weird. Most of them had been tamed. Youth doesn't want to believe it will ever be tamed. And damn!...good for them. If I were a rah-rah-gotta-find-a-way-to-pitch- my-spiritual-path-or-guru-to-others-at-every- opportunity type, I'd probably attribute my enduring weirdness to a lifetime of meditation. But since I have no particular path or guru or even style of meditation to pitch, I'll attribute it to LSD. All that acid I took in the late 60s dissolved the parts of my brain that are suscept- ible to being tamed. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TIME to BAN LURK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This group which used to be fun when it was like Rick's Bar and Grill is pretty boring catering to a bunch of bliss ninnies and quickly becoming Rick's Victorian Tea House. I guess that explains why the last beer I ordered tasted like Lapsang Suchon and my Reuben sandwich order came back as cucumber finger triangles without the crusts. And when did we ban strippers? That used to be my favorite part of my lunch break here. Even the enlightened need a lap dance once in a while, right?! Hey, I used to be a stripper *for* the TM movement. Seriously. And I used to *love* saying it that way. It used to make the Purusha-types-before-there-was-a-Purusha *so* uptight. :-) I was a photostripper for MIU Press. Back in the days before digital presses, you had to shoot negs of the typeset copy and then paste them up in cer- tain configurations and then shoot printing plates from them. In America, this process is called stripping. One of the first indications I got that the TM move- ment was not for me is when people started getting offended by the term stripping. Mandates came down from Seelisberg that we should refer to what we do by the European term montage. I refused outright. I was a stripper for the TM move- ment and damn! if I was going to let somebody make me say that I did montage for a living. We *did* do the stripping fully clothed, however, for those who are still offended by the term. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any 55 year old hetro man who does not find at least some 25 year old women attractive, has a stick so far up his butt, it must be painful even walking to the domes. Congratulations, new. I got about 20 words into Edg's rant and clicked Next. It was just so OLD, at a time when I've been having conversations lately with young people, that I couldn't go any further. I've skipped all the other followups as well, because it was obvious from the first few words that I see in Message view on the Yahoo Web reader that they weren't going to be having any fun, either. But your line above caught my eye and made me cackle, so I decided to read it. Gotta agree. In a way it reminds me of a one-liner quipped by, I think, Roger Ebert about the film The Hunger. He kinda liked the film, but he also classed it as one of his guilty pleasures. The reason was a certain love scene in the film. The way he put it, Anyone -- male or female -- who claims that they don't find the idea of a nude love scene between Catherine Deneuve and Susan Sarandon a little exciting...is dead.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
Edg, I've defended individuals charged with crimes that are despicable beyond measure, and done so zealously and to the very best of my abilities. But if the victim in the crime alleged had been a loved one of mine I would naturally feel what you describe (below). That, too, is human nature. I appreciate that you are so candid with your feelings, particularly so when it's clear that you have suffered so much. It's admirable, also, that despite wounds suffered and endured, you continue to take delight in beauty and love and heartfelt communication. That's an example for me, and I'd hope to emulate it should I ever be as deeply hurt. The idea has been growing in me for awhile and more than ever I would be interested in a Fairfield Life group face-to-face reunion; in Fairfield, of course. Perhaps a long weekend get-together where we can all see what we're all like in the flesh. Anyone interested? Sometime next Spring? If anyone wants to suggest some dates, I'm in. Marek --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Bingo. I like your ideas, and yes, I think I've had some pretty hard knocks that have gotten me into an overly sensitive stance. My sister being marauded was but one exampleand other events have hardened me, because they happened right in front of me, and I failed to protect my loved ones even though I thought I was prepared and had prepared them for the attacks that came. I cannot write about it here without risking my peace of mind for a week -- have to keep this at psychic arm's length, cuz I have no recourse, no way to scrub off the scars from the deep cuts into my family's psyche by outlanders. I did my times in a personal hell railing against the forces of existence, but there's scant profit from in dwelling in that place. All I know is that if I were to be stranded on a desert island with any of the MEN who delivered MY karma to me, despite my beliefs that justice is perfect, I'd take matters in my own hands. Some of these men are pretty tough dudes, but they'd be bleeding and screaming within seconds of hitting the beach, and not a one of them would see the next day's light. These guys you see jumping the courtroom railing to get at the murderer of their loved one, just to get on fist in a smug face, that would be me. Death penalty? Too good. Way too good. If my heart is to feel that justice has been done, some of these MEN should be tortured for years with a host of doctors keeping them alive for the next day's torture. Only my faith in divine justice keeps me from going down a long dark road to my own doom. Only that constrains me from exacting revenge in this world, in this lifetime. They'll get what's coming, and it'll be over lifetimes -- their spiritual bones will be ground to dust. I'm not as broken as the above might indicate. I go on with life and try for all the pleasures, keep reading, keep writing, keep my mind off the darkness as much as possible. I laugh every day, I sing every day, I greet every day. But sore, raw, flaming red scars will still be pulsing on my deathbed. Hug your kids, hug your lovers, hug all that is precious to you and savor the moments while you can. Things can change. Edg Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Edg, there is some a priori assumption behind the views you express above that, regardless of the the concern and love that obviously inhabits them, nonetheless regards human sexuality as something inherently dangerous and, consequently, requiring all sorts of controls and warning labels, etc. In my job I sometimes need to get psych evals for my clients regarding their sexual interests; and anytime someone is found guilty of a molestation they have to get a pre-sentence eval to determine the likelihood of re-offending, and that also includes their sexual interests -- the sexual bandwitdth that they are attracted to. All the psychologists and psychiatrists say that for a normal heterosexual male that bandwidth is any female exhibiting secondary sexual characteristics like breasts and wider hips, etc. (i.e., as early as 13 or 14 years old and on up from there). That's the biology of male human beings in the hetero mode. Having two children, both a son and a daughter, both now adults and in stable, long-term relationships, I understand the concerns you've raised, but even during the most tumultuous portions of my childrens' adolescence (and trust me, there were some, and I've got a professional point of view now from which to evaluate them within a broad spectrum of human turmoil) I never felt that either of them needed to be warned about sexuality beyond the obvious and necessary health concerns. We did speak, of course, about the psychology of sexual attraction and the problems with bonding with someone
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 60 is the new 40. Spread the word! And 40 is the new 20. So 60 yr olds with 20 yr old ergo, are with people their own age.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not have TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on the sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are really Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a monk in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. Building these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what the ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to create this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough hillbillies in the world to stop it. http://tinyurl.com/28rojh It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in touch with reality. I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of laughter like this, the me is gone in the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response Hridaya
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:36 PM, new.morning wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 60 is the new 40. Spread the word! And 40 is the new 20. So 60 yr olds with 20 yr old ergo, are with people their own age. No, because going on your logic, 20 would be the new...what? 12? See you in the slammer. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY is going to create this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough hillbillies in the world to stop it. http://tinyurl.com/28rojh It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in touch with reality. You can give them a spiritual sounding name like lingam, but all this is is delusional men wearing gold crowns in charge of an ego- stroking, chauvinistic organization wanting to build big dicks to compensate for a variety of unresolved emotional-sexual issues. Could be. On the other hand I kinda like it, just because it is so different, like another chapter in a book I don't know the end to yet. I am not attached to any result which might occur, if any. Like I say, its just different, maybe like when Disneyland opened in the late '50's.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marauding Men and the Myth of an Independent Woman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:36 PM, new.morning wrote: curtisdeltablues@ wrote: 60 is the new 40. Spread the word! And 40 is the new 20. So 60 yr olds with 20 yr old ergo, are with people their own age. No, because going on your logic, 20 would be the new...what? 12? Actually that is not my logic at all. And its not even logic, its empirical evidence. The data I have seen indicates that 27 is the new 20. Of course 17 is the new 20, so ... 60 yar olds should not be with the new 20 year olds, but can be with the old 20 year olds who are the new 27 year olds. Come on. Try to keep up. Perhaps for some, 55 is the new 75. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should also say that about fat old Gurdjieff - oh I'm sure you could have kicked his ass as well. Since your in the mood for lowbrow descrimination against overweight people, why not call up Howard Stern for some real action. bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2qxgab Actually Bevan gives some pretty good summations of MMY's lectures, I admire thatone time, he made more sense than MMY! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should also say that about fat old Gurdjieff - oh I'm sure you could have kicked his ass as well. Since your in the mood for lowbrow descrimination against overweight people, why not call up Howard Stern for some real action. ** Being a few pounds overweight is one thing, but to be morbidly obese, like Bevan has been for many years, is a sign of some real mental health issues, and he's not the only looney tunes in the TM mgmt lineup. I think it's important to give these guys a reality check once in a while in the middle of that non-stop we are the masters of the universe song and dance, which will be true some day, but certainly not today. bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2qxgab - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!
[FairfieldLife] Re: TIME to BAN LURK
Turq: I'll settle things for you. I was the biggest flamer. I scorched the earth with a couple of posts. But then I dropped it and forgot about it entirely and went out and had a really good time and never thought about it again until I logged into FFL this morning and found every- one still arguing -- and thus still *in* -- that state of attention. Lurk: I've been away for a couple days, but the above doesn't really make sense to me. I have learned that words have an impact - obviously. I take responsiblity for my words and speech, and don't feel I can disown them or their impact after they are spoken, or written. I don't think it works that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cure for Bevan
Could be a minor cure but watch out! If it says Cream on the label, he might eat it instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cure for Bevan http://www.docbron.com/Meso-therapyCream.html bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:26:10 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bad news for Bevan http://tinyurl. com/2qxgab - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TIME to BAN LURK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq: I'll settle things for you. I was the biggest flamer. I scorched the earth with a couple of posts. But then I dropped it and forgot about it entirely and went out and had a really good time and never thought about it again until I logged into FFL this morning and found everyone still arguing -- and thus still *in* -- that state of attention. Lurk: I've been away for a couple days, but the above doesn't really make sense to me. I have learned that words have an impact-obviously. I take responsiblity for my words and speech, and don't feel I can disown them or their impact after they are spoken, or written. I don't think it works that way. I didn't disown anything. I said what I said. Toss my ass off the forum for a week if it'll make you feel better. Toss me off forever if it'll make you feel better. I don't care, either way, and the fact that you or anyone else still cares, and cares enough to keep beating what for me is a dead horse isn't going to make me care.
