Re: [FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

A friend said:  This transcript comes from a very strong Governor  
friend,


Does he eat a lot of spinach or something?


who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this.


With or without ghee? :)

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Straight parody.  Satire.   Is easy satirical.  
> 
> Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi.  Makes a natural moral-gap 
> filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by 
> contrast.  
> 
> Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace 
> then, and you don't recognize them?   ( Tisk, Tisk: "Those who don't 
> study history are condemned to repeat it"(?)

I was going to spoil the joke, but figured
you should have the punchline. :-)

There might have also been a place for "We
have nothing to fear but fear itself."

[FairfieldLife] The Sun in a Binary Star System

[John]

To All:

Please watch these presentations below for explanation of precession 
and the idea of the Sun being in a Binary Star System.

Regards,

John R.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqAuEu9YU7U&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oMM5xcoR9k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svuqa_Xgeds&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmVZ6QU46M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CpDXPtFmc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ew7qxwqdCE&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours 
> > drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag 
> > hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th.
> > Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites 
> > for Purusha. :-)
> > It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA !
> >
> 
> Real estate speculation is a joy?  Is it the buying low or the selling
> high that feels good?
>


Oh, the buy low and sell high experience is okay, but the best experience is 
this:
inspire a local community to fund a purchase of a building for use as a 
community center; 
allow the locals to use the building for a few years so they will be none the 
wiser; then sell 
the building, transfer all proceeds overseas, and rationalize to the locals 
that they have 
contributed to a better world through the process.  In a few years, go back to 
the locals, 
and repeat 
 

[FairfieldLife] Off_world's early Vermont Spring

[mainstream20016]

Off_world on Dec. 26:
> > Outta here, see ya'll.
> > Its been a laugh watching the fundies squirm under the harsh light of
> > truth. Research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific
> > journals.
> >
> > The sun is out, the solstice is over, and the skiing is great, so I
> > am bowing out until the Spring. Maybe by then some more of you will
> > have entered the modern age and will accept research published in
> > respected peer-reviewed scientific journals :-)
> >
> > OffWorld

on Dec. 26, Mainstream wrote:
"His self-imposed hiatus until Spring must mean that even in Vermont, Spring 
will
be early.  I don't look forward to it, but will see him back by Jan. 5th."

It was rather quiet without you, Off.  Apparently you were missed. Welcome back.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Talk by Maharishi

[dhamiltony2k5]

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend said:  This transcript comes from a very strong Governor 
>friend,
> who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. 
> 
>A friend said:  This transcript comes from a very strong Governor 
>friend, who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. 

Thank God, thank God it is from a strong Governor in Vlodrop.  
Imagine if it was from a less than strong Governor in Vlodrop.  
Heaven would stutter.  

Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF


>  
> 
>  
> 
> [Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati Trust, and praises
> Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them individually and to the 
world] 
> 
>  
> 
> Maharishi replies:
> 
>  
> 
> Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was happening.  I 
did not
> know from where this is happening. That was all I knew - it was the 
destiny
> of the world. It was the fortune of the world being designed, 
designed by
> whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my ability. I was simply 
working
> [3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments are coming to 
give shape
> to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only working.  When I 
am
> hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like to find out from 
where
> this was happening?
> 
>  
> 
> The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous that it is 
completely
> self-sufficient in articulating everything. One would never know 
from where
> one is acting.
> 
>  
> 
> When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can say - the only 
thing I
> can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing. It was 
happening - from
> place to place I was moving around.
> 
>  
> 
> It was happening but it was not.   
> 
>  
> 
> I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no source of it -  
because
> unfathomable is the field of Natural Law.  Unfathomable is the 
field of
> Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it works out the 
destiny of
> everyone.  But you go to find this logic, that logic, that logic. 
You are
> not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and ultimately you 
are left
> with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev.
> 
>  
> 
> It's from where that it is happening.  I remember a Vedic saying 
naguro
> ardikum [4x].  There is nothing greater than Guru Dev.  Nothing 
greater than
> Guru Dev. Guru bramha.  It is how our Guru Dev is defined. Guru 
vishnu. And
> Guru Deva Maheshvara.  And above all Guru sakshat param brama.  
Tasmai shri
> gurave namah. Guru is para brahm.
> 
>  
> 
> I end up with something beyond anything, and that is the reality of 
life.
> You can't find the source because the source is all over.  Where the
> intellectual ends, ends everything.  It is the transcendental - it 
is the
> reality of all possibilities.  So glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru 
Dev.
> Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of action.  We got to a 
course
> of action from where everything is all possibilities automatically.
> 
>  
> 
> Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all the glory, all the
> efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas I was knowing 
what
> they're doing - they're stretching something because they are not 
able to
> isolate it  - very great.  The glory of unbounded energy, 
intelligence,
> unbounded energy and intelligence.  The source is everywhere and 
that is
> Vedic civilization. 
> 
>  
> 
> What is at the basis of this?  Total knowledge.  Jyotish. Jyotish 
Vidya.
> Jyotish.  Jyotish.  Jyotish is that source of unbounded energy.  
And all
> knowingness.  That is Jyotish.  There one is trained.  There is the 
secret
> of all secrets.  You can't pinpoint.  We can't pinpoint our 
understanding,
> our status.  We can't pinpoint our stand, our status, our 
activity.  From
> where all this is happening.  It's happening of course but from 
where?  It
> is complete transcendental in nature.
> 
>  
> 
> The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of devotion, the field 
of
> knowledge, is unfathomable.  Completely unfathomable.
> 
>  
> 
> That is why what we have done is established the rule of authority 
in
> silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe.  In silence 
is the
> script of natural law, which is eternally guiding the destiny of 
everyone. 
> 
>  
> 
> Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where is it painted?  
From
> where it is? Totality is real.  Totality is real.  All the yoga, 
all the
> yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find from where to 
draw it.
> But it is not possible to located the source of it.  It is 
unfathomable.
> 
>  
> 
> Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality.  You cannot 
locate it.
> You can take out anything you want but you don't know from where it 
is
> coming.  It is a beautiful picture. 
> 
>  
> 
> I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is the greatest 
visionary
> of today, the greatest scientist of total law today -
> 
>  
> 
> The unified field is such a spread out thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!

[dhamiltony2k5]

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Doug: 
> Winston is back:  From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just 
>in...
>  
> Rick:  I don't get it. Who is this Winston? Is he a Raja?
> Lurk: This Winston piece was pretty intriquing.  I'd love to get 
>some 
> independent confirmation
> 
> 
> Winston, Raja with Spine is Back. V! for Victory!
> 
> Parody.
> 
> 
> Straight parody.  Satire.   Is easy satirical.  
> 
> Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi.  Makes a natural moral-gap 
> filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by 
> contrast.  
> 
> Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace 
> then, and you don't recognize them?   ( Tisk, Tisk: "Those who 
>don't 
> study history are condemned to repeat it"(?)
> 
> Churchill: Tyrants are those who use their power over people to 
>steal 
> their property.  Evil menace is that which misuses the goodwill of 
> people against them to steal their property, liberties and 
>freedom.  
> 
> 
> Maharishi has left himself and his TMmovement wide open to 
> this `victory' kind of moral satirical criticism.  Is an easy irony 
> and it works because it has some essential truth to it.  So, it 
>is.  
> 
> 
>  "Run, you fools…" –Gandalf.
> 
> 
> Mainstream:   Exhibit # 1 - demonstrating the genesis of religion-
> induced war..
> 
> 
> 160827
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008):
> > > 
> > >  I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give 
>Me 
> a 
> > >gift.
> > 
> > 
> > Winston is back:
> > From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in...
> > 
> > Forward: 
> > 
> > 
> > From: A Raja with spine, in reply:
> > 
> > To: Maharishi,
> > 
> > "All we have to offer is blood, toil, tears and sweat.
> > 
> > You have faced us with this greatest crisis in our long movement 
> > history.
> > 
> > You now ask what donations we will make, what is our position, 
>what 
> > is our policy?  What monuments will we build?
> > 
> > Nay it is to wage war, with all our might.
> > 
> > War, against a monstrous tyranny in our TMorg.  You ask what is 
>our 
> > aim?  It is victory. 
> > 
> > Victory despite all the costs to the movement of your monies, 
> victory 
> > despite all the terror of your administration.  Victory no matter 
> how 
> > long and hard the road may be.  For without victory in this, 
>there 
> is 
> > no survival of what is special and precious. 
> > 
> > Without victory there will be no survival of Guru Dev's teaching 
> and 
> > all that it has stood for from origin.
> > 
> > War, and victory for the spiritual regeneration movement of Guru 
> > Dev.  Damn the monument builders, damn the idolaters and damn 
>your 
> > money-changers.  That spiritual teaching which Guru Dev once 
> > represented has vanished in them.
> > 
> > There is no room for negotiation.  Negotiation is compromise, 
>which 
> > only would destroy all that has made Guru Dev and the SRM special.
> > 
> > Nay, why keep your movement, your administration, if the teaching 
> it 
> > once represented has vanished in them?  Off with your robes and 
>off 
> > with your crowns.  Down with your monuments.  You are an 
> > embarrassment to all that was once good. Go. Go. Go. Go on.  
>Leave 
> > your attachments to this.  It is time.
> > 
> > For the teaching of Guru Dev and all it has stood for, for 
> humankind, 
> > you must go now.  We will see you on to hell.  It is time.  You 
> have 
> > done your mischief.
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > Jai, the Spiritual Regeneration Movement
> > 
> > Jai, the International Meditation Movement of Guru Dev  
> > 
> > -We move to teach transcending.
> > 
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > -Winston, Prime Minister of Greater Britain Rajastan in the 
>Global 
> > Country of Peace
> > 
> > 
> > p.s., It is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon 
>the 
> > outrages of your TMmovement and this teaching now;  this 
> repository, 
> > this embodiment of soul-destroying wrongs and shames of 
>humanity.  
> We 
> > will never make a peace with this.  No matter what happens we 
>will 
> > fight on.  If the long history of the TMmovement is to end with 
> Rajas 
> > and your monuments, let it end…  Onward soldiers of Truth.  We 
>hold 
> > these truths to be Self-evident.
> > 
> > We speak to you in a solemn hour, in a war for the soul of 
> mankind.  
> > It is time for you Maharishi to go, as the will of God in Heaven, 
> so 
> > be it.
> > 
> > "The future for the 21st century is research published in 
>respected
> > peer-reviewed scientific journals. Period.
> > Get used to it."
> > -Winston
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

"I'm an American"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxOHwu0CA5E



> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >160598
> > > An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly 
> > accurate
> > > notes of today's most historic time of all time
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > From another source
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi

[Peter]

WTF

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A friend said:  This transcript comes from a very
> strong Governor friend,
> who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> [Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati
> Trust, and praises
> Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them
> individually and to the world] 
> 
>  
> 
> Maharishi replies:
> 
>  
> 
> Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was
> happening.  I did not
> know from where this is happening. That was all I
> knew - it was the destiny
> of the world. It was the fortune of the world being
> designed, designed by
> whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my
> ability. I was simply working
> [3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments
> are coming to give shape
> to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only
> working.  When I am
> hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like
> to find out from where
> this was happening?
> 
>  
> 
> The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous
> that it is completely
> self-sufficient in articulating everything. One
> would never know from where
> one is acting.
> 
>  
> 
> When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can
> say - the only thing I
> can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing.
> It was happening - from
> place to place I was moving around.
> 
>  
> 
> It was happening but it was not.   
> 
>  
> 
> I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no
> source of it -  because
> unfathomable is the field of Natural Law. 
> Unfathomable is the field of
> Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it
> works out the destiny of
> everyone.  But you go to find this logic, that
> logic, that logic. You are
> not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and
> ultimately you are left
> with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev.
> 
>  
> 
> It's from where that it is happening.  I remember a
> Vedic saying naguro
> ardikum [4x].  There is nothing greater than Guru
> Dev.  Nothing greater than
> Guru Dev. Guru bramha.  It is how our Guru Dev is
> defined. Guru vishnu. And
> Guru Deva Maheshvara.  And above all Guru sakshat
> param brama.  Tasmai shri
> gurave namah. Guru is para brahm.
> 
>  
> 
> I end up with something beyond anything, and that is
> the reality of life.
> You can't find the source because the source is all
> over.  Where the
> intellectual ends, ends everything.  It is the
> transcendental - it is the
> reality of all possibilities.  So glory to Guru Dev.
> Glory to Guru Dev.
> Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of
> action.  We got to a course
> of action from where everything is all possibilities
> automatically.
> 
>  
> 
> Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all
> the glory, all the
> efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas
> I was knowing what
> they're doing - they're stretching something because
> they are not able to
> isolate it  - very great.  The glory of unbounded
> energy, intelligence,
> unbounded energy and intelligence.  The source is
> everywhere and that is
> Vedic civilization. 
> 
>  
> 
> What is at the basis of this?  Total knowledge. 
> Jyotish. Jyotish Vidya.
> Jyotish.  Jyotish.  Jyotish is that source of
> unbounded energy.  And all
> knowingness.  That is Jyotish.  There one is
> trained.  There is the secret
> of all secrets.  You can't pinpoint.  We can't
> pinpoint our understanding,
> our status.  We can't pinpoint our stand, our
> status, our activity.  From
> where all this is happening.  It's happening of
> course but from where?  It
> is complete transcendental in nature.
> 
>  
> 
> The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of
> devotion, the field of
> knowledge, is unfathomable.  Completely
> unfathomable.
> 
>  
> 
> That is why what we have done is established the
> rule of authority in
> silence. Silence is the administrator of the
> universe.  In silence is the
> script of natural law, which is eternally guiding
> the destiny of everyone. 
> 
>  
> 
> Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where
> is it painted?  From
> where it is? Totality is real.  Totality is real. 
> All the yoga, all the
> yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find
> from where to draw it.
> But it is not possible to located the source of it. 
> It is unfathomable.
> 
>  
> 
> Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality.
>  You cannot locate it.
> You can take out anything you want but you don't
> know from where it is
> coming.  It is a beautiful picture. 
> 
>  
> 
> I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is
> the greatest visionary
> of today, the greatest scientist of total law today
> -
> 
>  
> 
> The unified field is such a spread out thing. 
> Unified - completely spread
> out.  You use it...spontaneously is the word. 
> Completely spontaneously is
> the word. That is what.  The experience of that  has
> always been there. And
> it is there now in Invincible, invincible America
> and invincible Raja of
> Am

[FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi

[Rick Archer]

A friend said:  This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend,
who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. 

 

 

[Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati Trust, and praises
Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them individually and to the world] 

 

Maharishi replies:

 

Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was happening.  I did not
know from where this is happening. That was all I knew - it was the destiny
of the world. It was the fortune of the world being designed, designed by
whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my ability. I was simply working
[3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments are coming to give shape
to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only working.  When I am
hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like to find out from where
this was happening?

 

The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous that it is completely
self-sufficient in articulating everything. One would never know from where
one is acting.

 

When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can say - the only thing I
can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing. It was happening - from
place to place I was moving around.

 

It was happening but it was not.   

 

I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no source of it -  because
unfathomable is the field of Natural Law.  Unfathomable is the field of
Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it works out the destiny of
everyone.  But you go to find this logic, that logic, that logic. You are
not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and ultimately you are left
with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev.

 

It's from where that it is happening.  I remember a Vedic saying naguro
ardikum [4x].  There is nothing greater than Guru Dev.  Nothing greater than
Guru Dev. Guru bramha.  It is how our Guru Dev is defined. Guru vishnu. And
Guru Deva Maheshvara.  And above all Guru sakshat param brama.  Tasmai shri
gurave namah. Guru is para brahm.

 

I end up with something beyond anything, and that is the reality of life.
You can't find the source because the source is all over.  Where the
intellectual ends, ends everything.  It is the transcendental - it is the
reality of all possibilities.  So glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev.
Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of action.  We got to a course
of action from where everything is all possibilities automatically.

 

Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all the glory, all the
efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas I was knowing what
they're doing - they're stretching something because they are not able to
isolate it  - very great.  The glory of unbounded energy, intelligence,
unbounded energy and intelligence.  The source is everywhere and that is
Vedic civilization. 

 

What is at the basis of this?  Total knowledge.  Jyotish. Jyotish Vidya.
Jyotish.  Jyotish.  Jyotish is that source of unbounded energy.  And all
knowingness.  That is Jyotish.  There one is trained.  There is the secret
of all secrets.  You can't pinpoint.  We can't pinpoint our understanding,
our status.  We can't pinpoint our stand, our status, our activity.  From
where all this is happening.  It's happening of course but from where?  It
is complete transcendental in nature.

 

The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of devotion, the field of
knowledge, is unfathomable.  Completely unfathomable.

 

That is why what we have done is established the rule of authority in
silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe.  In silence is the
script of natural law, which is eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. 

 

Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where is it painted?  From
where it is? Totality is real.  Totality is real.  All the yoga, all the
yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find from where to draw it.
But it is not possible to located the source of it.  It is unfathomable.

 

Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality.  You cannot locate it.
You can take out anything you want but you don't know from where it is
coming.  It is a beautiful picture. 

 

I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is the greatest visionary
of today, the greatest scientist of total law today -

 

The unified field is such a spread out thing.  Unified - completely spread
out.  You use it...spontaneously is the word.  Completely spontaneously is
the word. That is what.  The experience of that  has always been there. And
it is there now in Invincible, invincible America and invincible Raja of
America, Invincible Raja of America.

 

When I say this I am reminded of you, because you have seen that
invincibility that cannot be isolated anywhere.  And you'll be able to
design invincibility on that level of invincibility, motivated by Natural
Law - total Natural Law.  Is beautiful.  It is such a joy to say it even
though one cannot pinpoint anything, but certainly one can say it is
spontaneous, automat

[FairfieldLife] Partial transcripts from Jan 12th Celebration

[Rick Archer]

Forwarded from a friend of a friend of a friend:

Here are transcripts of three short parts of the Jan. 12 celebration. 
These are my own effort, not official.  Numbers refer to the hours 
and minutes into the celebration these appeared (beginning from the 
initial Vedic chanting).  Prime Minister Bevan Morris's narration 
appears without quotes, and is not always exact.
Jai Guru Dev

#1 - 2:34  

When he heard this announcement, and the warm reception of all to the 
foundation of this organization, the Brahmananda Saraswati Trust, 
Maharishi said, 

"I am grateful for this warm sendoff of Invincibility to the whole 
world, for all times.  It was my pleasure, at the feet of Guru Dev, 
to take the light of Guru Dev, and pass it on to my environment. 
Now, today, I am closing my designated duty to Guru Dev.  I can only 
say, 'Live long the world--in peace, happiness, prosperity, and 
freedom from suffering.'  

"Today, this farewell marks the establishment of Invincibility for 
all mankind under the capable, silent rulership of Maharaja Raja 
Raam, and under the capable guidance of all the Ministers, and all 
the glorified minds in terms of all dignity of the light in 
Invincibility for every country.  And it is my satisfaction that I 
offer this to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev.  Jai Guru Dev.  And 
offer my everything to the blessings of Guru Dev.  And continue with 
the world in peace, prosperity and happiness.  

"This formation the Brahmananda Saraswati Trust is going to be a 
glory for the administration for future life on earth, on the 
individual and national level.  All glory to Guru Dev.  Jai Guru Dev. 
Express my delight for all the millennia to come, that the world is 
going to be a happy world.  The Brahmananda Saraswati Trust is going 
to take the lighted lamp every morning and night, every night to 
come.  The future of the world is bright, and that is my delight."

#2 - 2:42  

Here is His Majesty Maharaja Nader Raam's message, expressed today to 
His Holiness to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi:

"Your gift of infinite silence, eternal peace, with none other than 
You in it, I embraced, my Lord, with joy.  And it filled me with 
bliss.  In it, you breathe life into Veda.  Your thoughts are Pure 
Knowledge.  In it, you leave nothing to be desired.  There is no 
need, no want.  You are the soul of all that there is--Atma, Brahm, 
eternal freedom, totality, unboundedness.  

"Tender, softly permeating everything, all encompassing, binding the 
loose ends of creation, unifying all opposites, resolving all 
conflicts, you are and give meaning and all the glory to 
Silence--that gift of Guru Dev--that which you taught us to be Guru 
Dev.  

"With your grace, my Lord, my silence has been full.  Please today do 
not wish us to experience its emptiness.  I shall remain in it.  But 
please do not take away from me the hope to be always able to open my 
eyes and say, 'Jai Guru Dev.'  For other than to you, and under your 
guidance, to whom shall I speak?  

"Yes, of course, you say--and I know--you will be with me forever. 
And my task will be easy, keeping you company in silence.  But why 
suddenly, today, I feel the need to speak, and the need to tell you 
again and again, and never lose the chance to be able to tell you 
again, how much I adore you.  

"Yes, I know that we will all be together, unified and strong, with 
you--for there is nothing in us, other than you.  And I see the day 
when I will be fulfilled again--that day which I cannot wait for too 
long, that day when everyone alive on this planet Earth will with 
every breath, in his heart and mind, uphold your Silence, your Guru 
Dev--our Guru Dev.  

"Only on that day--maybe--I will stop missing you.  Jai Guru Dev."


#3 - 2:49:30   

Yesterday, when Maharishi was reflecting on all the praise that was 
expressed to him by all the Rajas and Ministers, Maharishi said, in 
thinking about all that was said, the Invincible Raja of America came 
to his mind.  So he said, "Invincible Raja of America, when I am 
saying this, I am reminded of you."  

Maharishi was speaking about the discovery of the Unified Field, and 
the spontaneous operation of all life on earth from that level of the 
Unified Field.  So he said, 

"Invincible Raja of America, when I am saying this, I am reminded of 
you, in you I have seen that Invincibility that cannot be isolated 
anywhere.  You will be able to design the human race functioning on 
the level of Invincibility and motivated by Total Natural Law.  It's 
beautiful.  It's such a joy to say it.  Even though one cannot 
pinpoint anything, because it is all spontaneous and automatic--it is 
such a joy today, when I am closing my performance, and closing my 
days of life, when I am hearing all these beautiful realities of all 
successes on the basis of which we have built up Invincibility to be 
the perpetual phase to be lived in life, I am expressing, It is not I 
that has done it.  If it is I, it is a big 'I'.  And I would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Video about  FFL  Haters and others
> > 
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M
> 
> That sucks!
>

THEY ALL  SUCK ! ! ! !



OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> ---Right "traveling backward in time" may be an inappropriate 
> phrase.  However, the phrase "backward causation" is officially 
used; 
> but the paradox is that there's no evidence of a signal, at least 
one 
> that physicists can detect.
>  The presence of a human observer has traditionally been a 
> requirement in the Copenhagen viewpoint of QM, propounded by most 
of 
> the 20's pioneers (Schroedinger, Heisenberg, Bohr, etc). Einstein 
was 
> the antagonist to Borh in this controversey.  Other physicists OTOH 
> believe that the "environment" is the observer; and downplay the 
> necessity of a human observer.>>

True.

I cannot believe it has taken 50 years for the most obvious truth to 
come home to these childish retards we call 'scientists'. There must 
be some brain damage that causes a person to seek a career in 
science. It is called 'the mistake of the intellect'

That is why, at the age of 15, after studying astronomy and cosmology 
in-depth ( I used to save up all my pocket money at 13+ years old to 
buy big thick books on astronomy and modern cosmology and pour over 
them with amazement ), I essentially gave up the ignorance of the 
scientific journey for the more precarious and wonder-filled journey 
of an artist. See some of my work at www.satwagraphics.com

The artist is superior to the scientist on all levels. At 15 I had 
forgotton more than any scientist will know in a lifetime.

How could anyone but the most stupid being to ever live think that 
somehow the observation of a human is more important than that of say 
an elephant or chimpanzee, and those are somehow more relevant than a 
mouse or a beetle, and those are more relevant than a microbe or even 
a particle that registers (observes) an energy or effect.

PLEASE KILL ME NOW !...
...if we are in the year 2008 and people have STILL NOT REALIZED that 
all things make observations (register changes), and that that is an 
unbroken chain of observation (reaction) throughout eternity. As 
such, all things are observed (even if to the smallest degree of 
significance) and are registered in this memory-bank we call 'the 
universe'.

Therefore...we, the observer, have created the perception of what we 
percieve, and that perception changes when the perciever changes 
("Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness" - 
Maharishi )

OffWorld



>  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > > > > > familiar with this "stuff."
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also check out:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a very good synopsis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> > > > >
> > > > > What are you proposing Off, that the
> > > > > > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that 
> > travels
> > > > > > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus 
> what
> > > > > > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts 
with 
> the
> > > > > > machine? What about when there is no human observer and 
some
> > > > > > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > > > > > machine travel back through time?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number 
> of 
> > false
> > > > > > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master 
and 
> his
> > > > > > physicists-marketeers.
> > > > >
> > > > > See:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment 
> > does  
> > > > not require a human participant.  However,  we have to be 
> > careful  
> > > > when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his  
> > > > experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  
> > not  
> > > > necessary to develop a theory to account for the 
experiment.   
> > > > Interesting stuff though.  Shows how elusive answers can be 
> when 
> > you  
> > > > are out there on the cutting edge.
> > > 
> > > Be careful of "Judy's Golem", a peculiar form of strawman 
> fallacy  
> > > where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others 
> > thoughts,  
> > > and then based on that distorted "monster" attempts to show who 
> > that  
> > > misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have 
> > actually  
> > > zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even 
> close 
> > to  
> > > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Video about  FFL  Haters and others
> 
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M

That sucks!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> 
> > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > familiar with this "stuff."
>  
> > 
> > Also check out:
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> > 
> > It's a very good synopsis.
> 
> Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> 
> What are you proposing Off, that the
> > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels
> > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > machine travel back through time?


Uh...VajI really haven't kept track of this thread, but I have 
never proposed anything like that. It is obvious to me (but very few 
scientists) that the human observer is irrelavent. A microbe or a 
squirrel is an observer, and all things are observed by something 
else in an unbroken chain of connection called 'unity'. That means 
the totality of all those observations are more than the sum of its 
parts, which is called 'Brahman'..which is simply consciousness. 

It seems vaj makes false claims about people to make his silly 
arguments about which which no-one is interested.

OffWorld


> > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false
> > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> > physicists-marketeers.
> 
> See:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
>

[FairfieldLife] Barenboim takes Palestinian passport

[bob_brigante]

"Though he dismissed any wish to play a political role, the former 
music director of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra took a dig at Bush's 
strikingly forceful call in Jerusalem last week for Israel to end, in 
the president's own words, "the occupation".

"Now even not very intelligent people are saying that the occupation 
has to be stopped," Barenboim said.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13487401.htm

[FairfieldLife] Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!

[dhamiltony2k5]

Doug: 
Winston is back:  From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in...
 
Rick:  I don't get it. Who is this Winston? Is he a Raja?
Lurk: This Winston piece was pretty intriquing.  I'd love to get some 
independent confirmation


Winston, Raja with Spine is Back. V! for Victory!

Parody.


Straight parody.  Satire.   Is easy satirical.  

Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi.  Makes a natural moral-gap 
filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by 
contrast.  

Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace 
then, and you don't recognize them?   ( Tisk, Tisk: "Those who don't 
study history are condemned to repeat it"(?)

Churchill: Tyrants are those who use their power over people to steal 
their property.  Evil menace is that which misuses the goodwill of 
people against them to steal their property, liberties and freedom.  


Maharishi has left himself and his TMmovement wide open to 
this `victory' kind of moral satirical criticism.  Is an easy irony 
and it works because it has some essential truth to it.  So, it is.  


 "Run, you fools…" –Gandalf.


Mainstream:   Exhibit # 1 - demonstrating the genesis of religion-
induced war..


160827
>wrote:
>
> > Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008):
> > 
> >  I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me 
a 
> >gift.
> 
> 
> Winston is back:
> From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in...
> 
> Forward: 
> 
> 
> From: A Raja with spine, in reply:
> 
> To: Maharishi,
> 
> "All we have to offer is blood, toil, tears and sweat.
> 
> You have faced us with this greatest crisis in our long movement 
> history.
> 
> You now ask what donations we will make, what is our position, what 
> is our policy?  What monuments will we build?
> 
> Nay it is to wage war, with all our might.
> 
> War, against a monstrous tyranny in our TMorg.  You ask what is our 
> aim?  It is victory. 
> 
> Victory despite all the costs to the movement of your monies, 
victory 
> despite all the terror of your administration.  Victory no matter 
how 
> long and hard the road may be.  For without victory in this, there 
is 
> no survival of what is special and precious. 
> 
> Without victory there will be no survival of Guru Dev's teaching 
and 
> all that it has stood for from origin.
> 
> War, and victory for the spiritual regeneration movement of Guru 
> Dev.  Damn the monument builders, damn the idolaters and damn your 
> money-changers.  That spiritual teaching which Guru Dev once 
> represented has vanished in them.
> 
> There is no room for negotiation.  Negotiation is compromise, which 
> only would destroy all that has made Guru Dev and the SRM special.
> 
> Nay, why keep your movement, your administration, if the teaching 
it 
> once represented has vanished in them?  Off with your robes and off 
> with your crowns.  Down with your monuments.  You are an 
> embarrassment to all that was once good. Go. Go. Go. Go on.  Leave 
> your attachments to this.  It is time.
> 
> For the teaching of Guru Dev and all it has stood for, for 
humankind, 
> you must go now.  We will see you on to hell.  It is time.  You 
have 
> done your mischief.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> 
> Jai, the Spiritual Regeneration Movement
> 
> Jai, the International Meditation Movement of Guru Dev  
> 
> -We move to teach transcending.
> 
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> 
> -Winston, Prime Minister of Greater Britain Rajastan in the Global 
> Country of Peace
> 
> 
> p.s., It is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the 
> outrages of your TMmovement and this teaching now;  this 
repository, 
> this embodiment of soul-destroying wrongs and shames of humanity.  
We 
> will never make a peace with this.  No matter what happens we will 
> fight on.  If the long history of the TMmovement is to end with 
Rajas 
> and your monuments, let it end…  Onward soldiers of Truth.  We hold 
> these truths to be Self-evident.
> 
> We speak to you in a solemn hour, in a war for the soul of 
mankind.  
> It is time for you Maharishi to go, as the will of God in Heaven, 
so 
> be it.
> 
> "The future for the 21st century is research published in respected
> peer-reviewed scientific journals. Period.
> Get used to it."
> -Winston
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >160598
> > An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly 
> accurate
> > notes of today's most historic time of all time
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From another source
> > 
> > Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008):
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me 
a 
> gift.
> > Somewhere or everywhere we want the Rajas to ... We want to 
> perpetuate this
> > some ... For invincibility because we have had the honor of 
> creating the
> > invincibility for the world and we want to make it really a 
> perpetual shrine
> > for the world.  A place of ...
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  Should think of a memorial of the world transformed into 
> >invincib

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> Video about  FFL  Haters and others
> 
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M
> 
> OffWorld
>

I am humbled by such creativity and brilliance.  Excellent Off!

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language. 
I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message
(parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and
how joyful and how etc. something was.  And it was really, really bad
writing.  Who writes this crap?  And why doesn't someone say, Hey,
this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way.


Oh yes.  I have thought that it would be fun to design one of the
funny translators you can find on the internet to translate regular
talk to movement talk.  Kind of like talk like a pirate speak
translator: http://talklikeapirateday.com/translate/index.php

Let's see, maybe "nice day today", translates into "This is the most
perfect and auspicious phase of thought and action where we can
spontaneously and profoundly experience heaven on earth."  Or
something like that.

[FairfieldLife] Video about FFL Haters and others

[off_world_beings]

Video about  FFL  Haters and others

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M

OffWorld

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[Angela Mailander]

Well, I guess that was my point.  There isn't any.  I mean the graphic stuff on 
brochures etc.  the pastels, the scrolls, the gold.  All in terribly bad taste. 
 Music is the same way.  Mother Divine singing, "Maharishi's bri-he-he-nging 
heaven on earth, heaven on earth..." Very insipid.  No soul. No life.  No 
spirit.  

- Original Message 
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:03:39 PM
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---Let's see some Movement art!!



In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander 

 wrote:

>

> You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language.  

I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message 

(parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and 

how joyful and how etc. something was.  And it was really, really bad 

writing.  Who writes this crap?  And why doesn't someone say, Hey, 

this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way.

> 

> - Original Message 

> From: curtisdeltablues 

> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

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are.

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> > No electricity in your cave I suppose...

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> > Nab,  I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as 

regards

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> > Curtis.  You know that light that stays on during  sleeping,  

dream and

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> > sleep.?  Yet that sun, bro.

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> Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was

> 

> that story?  At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned 

out

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> to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC.  Not 

being

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> Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm 

all

> 

> enlightened up without the Burger King hat.  Plus I don't have to

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[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[yifuxero]

---Let's see some Movement art!!


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language.  
I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message 
(parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and 
how joyful and how etc. something was.  And it was really, really bad 
writing.  Who writes this crap?  And why doesn't someone say, Hey, 
this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way.
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
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> > >You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you 
are.
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> > No electricity in your cave I suppose...
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> 
> > Nab,  I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as 
regards
> 
> > Curtis.  You know that light that stays on during  sleeping,  
dream and
> 
> > sleep.?  Yet that sun, bro.
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was
> 
> that story?  At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned 
out
> 
> to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC.  Not 
being
> 
> Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm 
all
> 
> enlightened up without the Burger King hat.  Plus I don't have to
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[Angela Mailander]

You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language.  I'd be in the 
dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message (parade of adjectives) 
which said how precious and how beautiful and how joyful and how etc. something 
was.  And it was really, really bad writing.  Who writes this crap?  And why 
doesn't someone say, Hey, this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same 
way.

- Original Message 
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM
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--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "lurkernomore200020 00"

 wrote:

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> 

> 

> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, nablusoss1008 

> wrote:

> >You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are.

> No electricity in your cave I suppose...

> 

> Nab,  I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards

> Curtis.  You know that light that stays on during  sleeping,  dream and

> sleep.?  Yet that sun, bro.



Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was

that story?  At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out

to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC.  Not being

Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all

enlightened up without the Burger King hat.  Plus I don't have to

thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to

expreth how gloriouth it all ith.  



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:00 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once
> prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even  
likely--

> we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory.

I can't help but think of the movie Sleeper and the orgasmatron.



Yeah, a lot of people say that. :-) Actually the rumor was his student  
masturbated in them.


What convinced me was when I saw the video of the repeated study where  
they created a room (I've actually been in that room) which multiplied  
prana many times. Within that room they used further prana  
accumulators to trap the life-energy into a vacuum tube, which was  
then excited. If you've ever seen prana in meditation, you immediately  
recognize it and I was struck by the utter beauty of it. Incredible  
sky/cobalt blue.


I had actually seen the original old 16 mm film of Reich's at his lab  
of this same experiment--and the repeated experiment looked remarkably  
the same. It's one of those experiments, once you realize it may be  
what it's purported to be -- you'd like to try it yourself!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[tertonzeno]

---Right "traveling backward in time" may be an inappropriate 
phrase.  However, the phrase "backward causation" is officially used; 
but the paradox is that there's no evidence of a signal, at least one 
that physicists can detect.
 The presence of a human observer has traditionally been a 
requirement in the Copenhagen viewpoint of QM, propounded by most of 
the 20's pioneers (Schroedinger, Heisenberg, Bohr, etc). Einstein was 
the antagonist to Borh in this controversey.  Other physicists OTOH 
believe that the "environment" is the observer; and downplay the 
necessity of a human observer.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > > > > familiar with this "stuff."
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Also check out:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a very good synopsis.
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> > > >
> > > > What are you proposing Off, that the
> > > > > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that 
> travels
> > > > > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus 
what
> > > > > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with 
the
> > > > > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > > > > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > > > > machine travel back through time?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number 
of 
> false
> > > > > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and 
his
> > > > > physicists-marketeers.
> > > >
> > > > See:
> > > >
> > > > 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
> > >
> > > I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment 
> does  
> > > not require a human participant.  However,  we have to be 
> careful  
> > > when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his  
> > > experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  
> not  
> > > necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment.   
> > > Interesting stuff though.  Shows how elusive answers can be 
when 
> you  
> > > are out there on the cutting edge.
> > 
> > Be careful of "Judy's Golem", a peculiar form of strawman 
fallacy  
> > where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others 
> thoughts,  
> > and then based on that distorted "monster" attempts to show who 
> that  
> > misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have 
> actually  
> > zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even 
close 
> to  
> > what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll 
> see  
> > this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure  
> > people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg 
> others  
> > on to further entice with her latest Golem.
> 
> 
> 
> Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once  
> prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even likely-- 
> we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory.

I can't help but think of the movie Sleeper and the orgasmatron. 


>

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> wrote:
> >You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are.
> No electricity in your cave I suppose...
> 
> Nab,  I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards
> Curtis.  You know that light that stays on during  sleeping,  dream and
> sleep.?  Yet that sun, bro.

Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was
that story?  At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out
to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC.  Not being
Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all
enlightened up without the Burger King hat.  Plus I don't have to
thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to
expreth how gloriouth it all ith.  


>

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[Stu]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu"  wrote:
> >   
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know?  
> >>> The ending I saw was lame- in IMO.  No resolution, no bad guy 
> >>> getting offed.  Just kind of absurd at the end.
> >>>   
> >> As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions.  We expect the
> >> bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he 
> >> has no unfinished business.  Instead we get something more akin to 
> >> real life.
> >> 
> >
> > Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie
> > for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-)
> >
> > Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the
> > movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know*
> > that things aren't going to get explained or wrap-
> > ped up in neat little packages at the end. 
> >
> > I'm on the road in France right now, and after the
> > business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO
> > versions of my Must See List while here. This film
> > is one of them, *whatever* the ending.
> How many times have you watched "Fargo" knowing well how it ends?   I 
> have watched it many times.  It's the pleasure of watching the Cohen 
> brothers craft of storytelling that keeps me coming back.  And I'm 
> looking forward to seeing "No Country for Old Men" again.
>
The ending can't be spoiled.  It may help to know its a bit off
kilter.  I am looking forward to my next screening of it. as well.

s.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, authfriend wrote:




Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.



The wicked witches face when water is splashed on it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > > > familiar with this "stuff."
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Also check out:
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> > > >
> > > > It's a very good synopsis.
> > >
> > > Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> > >
> > > What are you proposing Off, that the
> > > > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that 
travels
> > > > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > > > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > > > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > > > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > > > machine travel back through time?
> > > >
> > > > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of 
false
> > > > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> > > > physicists-marketeers.
> > >
> > > See:
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
> >
> > I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment 
does  
> > not require a human participant.  However,  we have to be 
careful  
> > when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his  
> > experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  
not  
> > necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment.   
> > Interesting stuff though.  Shows how elusive answers can be when 
you  
> > are out there on the cutting edge.
> 
> Be careful of "Judy's Golem", a peculiar form of strawman fallacy  
> where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others 
thoughts,  
> and then based on that distorted "monster" attempts to show who 
that  
> misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have 
actually  
> zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close 
to  
> what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll 
see  
> this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure  
> people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg 
others  
> on to further entice with her latest Golem.



Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> >
> > What are you proposing Off, that the
> > > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels
> > > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > > machine travel back through time?
> > >
> > > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of
> > > false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master 
> > > and his physicists-marketeers.
> >
> > See:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
> 
> I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does
> not require a human participant.  However, we have to be careful 
> when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his 
> experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  not 
> necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment.  
> Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when
> you are out there on the cutting edge.

Yes indeed. Which is where the ideas Off cited that
Vaj was scoffing at as absurd come from, Vaj
erroneously thinking (or, more likely, hoping he could
lead others to think) they came from MMY and Hagelin.

Sorry to belabor the point about Vaj, Ruth, but it's
a long-term trend with him, and he needs to be called
on it every time. It's like whack-a-mole.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> 
> > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > familiar with this "stuff."
> 
> >
> > Also check out:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> >
> > It's a very good synopsis.
>
> Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
>
> What are you proposing Off, that the
> > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels
> > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > machine travel back through time?
> >
> > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false
> > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> > physicists-marketeers.
>
> See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment

I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does  
not require a human participant.  However,  we have to be careful  
when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his  
experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  not  
necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment.   
Interesting stuff though.  Shows how elusive answers can be when you  
are out there on the cutting edge.


Be careful of "Judy's Golem", a peculiar form of strawman fallacy  
where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others thoughts,  
and then based on that distorted "monster" attempts to show who that  
misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have actually  
zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close to  
what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll see  
this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure  
people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg others  
on to further entice with her latest Golem.

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are.
No electricity in your cave I suppose...

Nab,  I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards
Curtis.  You know that light that stays on during  sleeping,  dream and
sleep.?  Yet that sun, bro.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:15 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Also check out:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
>
> It's a very good synopsis.
>

This wiki entry notes how Schroedinger was more mystical than many
quantum scientists. Nevertheless, Schroedinger did not have much
respect for what he called the lofty consequences people drew from
quantum science. For example he knew that there was no evidence or
any good theory for the proposition that consciousness influences an
object being observed. It was an unsupported belief drawn from the
fact that measuring devices interfere with objects under measurement.
As he said: "Sensations and thoughts do not belong to the world of
energy. They cannot produce any change in the world of energy. . ."
(from My View of the World, Cambridge University Press, 1964).

I especially like these quotes from the article:

"The scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient.
It give a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in a
magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and
sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. .
. .it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good and bad, God and
eternity."

"Whence I come and whither I go? That is the great unfathomable
question, the same for every one of us. Science has no answer to it."



Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once  
prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even likely-- 
we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Om, this is beautiful. I can see the palm tree groves and the  Palaces.
The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens. The  cricket, and
polo fields. It is beautiful.
> To which offshore account can I send money to help make this come 
true as soon as is, possible?

Dude, no need.  You're just having a good experience.  You just
described Jana Loka.  What till you get to Sat Loka.  Lordy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:55 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods. Hence, he
may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO.

Does he do it all while while he's sitting in the "old gum tree"?



LOL...that's the line I was trying to think of, Lurk. :)

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods. Hence, he
may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO.

Does he do it all while while he's sitting in the "old gum tree"?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I guess it might for some. It's a rather common and popular initiation
in some quarters. Personally, I always preferred Tara.

I knew it Vaj.  I always had you pegged as a "Gone With The Wind"
afficianado

[FairfieldLife] Oooooo, immortality, yes, but new brains too!

[Duveyoung]

http://tinyurl.com/35l5dk

This article about how they've found a way to make a heart "from
scratch" that beats explains about the technique.

What they don't say is that, hey, why not use this same technique on a
brain?  Instant mind in a jar!

I'm scared.

Edg

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 
hours 
> > drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag 
> > hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 
12'th.
> > Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 
suites 
> > for Purusha. :-)
> > It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA !
> >
> 
> Real estate speculation is a joy?  Is it the buying low or the 
selling
> high that feels good?

You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. 
No electricity in your cave I suppose...

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> 
> > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > familiar with this "stuff."
> 
> >
> > Also check out:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> >
> > It's a very good synopsis.
>
> Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
>
> What are you proposing Off, that the
> > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels
> > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > machine travel back through time?
> >
> > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false
> > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> > physicists-marketeers.
>
> See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment

I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not
require a human participant.  However,  we have to be careful when
drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his experiment and
other related experiments as "time travel" is  not necessary to develop
a theory to account for the experiment.  Interesting stuff though. 
Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting
edge.


>

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> >   I'll
> > > > give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm 
done.  
> > 
> > Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun 
> > rises.
> 
> Caves are for special spiritual homeless people Nabby.  

Exactly. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
>   I'll
> > > give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.  
> 
> Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun 
> rises.

Caves are for special spiritual homeless people Nabby.  Don't you read
your scriptures?

>

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> wrote:
> 
> 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours 
> drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag 
> hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th.
> Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites 
> for Purusha. :-)
> It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA !
>

Real estate speculation is a joy?  Is it the buying low or the selling
high that feels good?

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours 
drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag 
hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th.
Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites 
for Purusha. :-)
It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA !

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
> > > http://maharishichannel.org/
> > > Highly recommended !
> > >
> > Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja 
Wynne, now 
> > 535 in MVC, very interesting.
> > http://maharishichannel.org  channel nr 3
> 
> I wish I could keep up with the dueling commentaries Nabby!  I wish
> you could jump around instead of having to watch it all.  

Seeing the transfers from Vlodrop these past few days, and at this 
moment, has been a great joy. I had no idea of the enormous expansion 
that has been going on in yhe Movement all over the world, it is 
truly amazing. 45000 acres bought in Ukraine, huge land in Japan and 
South-America, the government of our dear friend Hugo donating the 
worlds first "Maharishi Natural Park" in Venezuela, and land bought 
all over the world on a truly grand scale. The doors of schools all 
over eastern europe is open to us to teach now, something marvelous 
must have happened during the last 4-5 years, all we have to do is 
walk in and teach. Amazing. Peace Palaces going up in all corners of 
the world. Truly great, very beautiful. What a gift and legacy 
Maharishi is leaving behind !

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:

> > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > familiar with this "stuff."
 
> 
> Also check out:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> 
> It's a very good synopsis.

Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:

What are you proposing Off, that the
> observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels
> back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> machine travel back through time?
>
> I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false
> propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> physicists-marketeers.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose?
> >
> > Yes.  They have theories but still no one knows anything really
> > about the Mind, about consciousness.
>
> They're also doing some "hard science" that has
> a great deal to do with consciousness.

Well, that is what they believe.  Others disagree.  They are doing hard
science but whether it tells us anything at all about consciousness is
doubted. Interestingly, we still have no hard facts about consciousness
at all.  A more mystical question is whether we ever will know anything
about consciousness.
>
> > > The "hard science" of QM comprises a bunch of
> > > mathematics and experimental data that appears to
> > > contradict everything we think we know about how
> > > reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if
> > > you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it.
> > >
> > > The only people really qualified to even guess at
> > > what QM "means" are those who at least grasp the
> > > math and the data.
> >
> > No disagreement here.
>
> Then why compare the physicists doing the guessing
> to Linus Pauling?

Because all their theories could end up going no where. They could all
be wrong because to the extent any of their  experiments teaches us
anything about consciousness is still doubtful.   They may be better at
guessing than us, but it doesn't mean that they are right.
>

[FairfieldLife] The Truth According to Puppetji

[Ben Gilberti]

The Truth According to Puppetji:

http://www.puppetji.blogspot.com/ 

  [:x]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Also check out:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> 
> It's a very good synopsis.
>

This wiki entry notes how Schroedinger was more mystical than many
quantum scientists. Nevertheless, Schroedinger did not have much
respect for what he called the lofty consequences people drew from
quantum science.  For example he knew that there was no evidence or
any good theory for the proposition that consciousness influences an
object being observed.  It was an unsupported belief drawn from the
fact that measuring devices interfere with objects under measurement.
As he said:  "Sensations and thoughts do not belong to the world of
energy.  They cannot produce any change in the world of energy. . ."
(from My View of the World, Cambridge University Press, 1964). 

I especially like these quotes from the article:

"The scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient.
It give a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in a
magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and
sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. .
. .it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good and bad, God and
eternity."

"Whence I come and whither I go?  That is the great unfathomable
question, the same for every one of us.  Science has no answer to it." 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose?
> 
> Yes.  They have theories but still no one knows anything really
> about the Mind, about consciousness.

They're also doing some "hard science" that has
a great deal to do with consciousness.

> > The "hard science" of QM comprises a bunch of
> > mathematics and experimental data that appears to
> > contradict everything we think we know about how
> > reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if
> > you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it.
> >
> > The only people really qualified to even guess at
> > what QM "means" are those who at least grasp the
> > math and the data.
> 
> No disagreement here.

Then why compare the physicists doing the guessing
to Linus Pauling?

  That is one of the wonders of science.  When we
> begin to understand one thing, it opens the door to many new 
> mysteries. Right now QMs is full of mysteries for science to 
> explore.  Whether what is learned will tell us anything about 
> consciousness is subject to considerable debate and considerable 
> doubt.
> 
> I doubt any of us here of physicists.  My background  makes me
> at least a fair issue spotter.  At best we are equipped to learn
> where there may be consensus, to determine what theories are being 
> explored, and to have a very basic understanding of what the issues 
> are regarding one theory or another.  For us to try to draw 
> conclusions about anything regarding QM is fun, but that is about 
> it.  Because theorists tend to get attached to their theories, we 
> cannot even draw good conclusions about what they say is evidence 
> in support of their theories unless there is pretty good
> consensus in the applicable scientific community.

No argument with any of this. But some here (e.g., Vaj)
are doing just that nevertheless.

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
  I'll
> > give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.  

Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun 
rises.

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" < 
> I do love this stuff!   

Me too :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> wrote:
> >
> > The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
> > http://maharishichannel.org/
> > Highly recommended !
> >
> Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja Wynne, now 
> 535 in MVC, very interesting.
> http://maharishichannel.org  channel nr 3

I wish I could keep up with the dueling commentaries Nabby!  I wish
you could jump around instead of having to watch it all.  



>

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

Bevan effeminately shames people for leaving ot go home.  He thinks
people should just stay as Maharishi requested.  Just like his MIU
routine after the Amherst course.  Bevan sees anyone with personal
obligations as disobeying MMY. 

Bevan shames the video picture guy for not having finished what was
the "idea last night" in his mincingly condescending way.  Nice touch.

Ned Win tells a story about an Island Van Watu in the South Pacific
the movement bought and a sidha who went there to raise a flag for
MMY.  Raja Win implied many miracles, friendly taxi guy (wow) seas
filled with dolphins and flying fish.  "They met support every step of
the way". Extra credit to Raja Win (sp?) for not talking in an
affected manor.  

47 minutes into the show discussion of the pundits.  The pundits never
travel anywhere without their Brahman cooks.  How nice. No low born
hands on the food. (Low born means anyone reading this.)  

Ned is delighted that the pundits never get a day off, ever.
People can watch the pundits through one way glass so the prisoners, I
mean pundits, don't get distracted. 

OK, I just lost an hour of my life.  I think that is enough,  I leave
the Raja explaining the magical effect of how yagyas effect the world
in excruciating detail, to a bunch of elite movement people who know
the theory at least as well as he does.  The guy doesn't even care if
he is boring his audience with stuff they already know.  He is just
getting off on hearing him say stuff that MMY does is my guess why
someone would explain beginner level mysticism principles to fellow
experts in that same fantasy. 

I do love this stuff!   

 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
> > http://maharishichannel.org/
> > Highly recommended !
> 
> Thanks Nabby, I enjoyed it from my Asura level.  Now let me get this
> straight...
> 
> The most creative enlightened people in the world, in whose hands the
> future of world peace rests, and the hope for elimination of all
> suffering...these guys can't do a better animation job to illustrate
> this most important event in human history than my local Indian cable
> channel does on a weekly basis?  Infantile, silly, uncreative, poor
> quality, shoddy computer work, poor sense of conveying information
> visually...
> 
> If I was teaching a bunch of high school kids Web animation I would
> flunk this kid.
> 
> I enjoyed the chanting.  I can appreciate the ancient tradition of
> transmitting knowledge it represents.  But it wasn't created by anyone
> in the movement.  The video intro was.
> 
> This is just my take on the intro.  Now his immenseness Bevan Jabba
> the Hut Morris is speaking in his extra soft delicate voice.  I'll
> give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
> http://maharishichannel.org/
> Highly recommended !
>
Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja Wynne, now 
535 in MVC, very interesting.
http://maharishichannel.org  channel nr 3

[FairfieldLife] Fairfielder Jeffrey Headquist voice on new Ron Paul ad again

[off_world_beings]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JC6T2WTVN3Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

>
> Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose?

Yes.  They have theories but still no one knows anything really about
the Mind, about consciousness.
>

> The "hard science" of QM comprises a bunch of
> mathematics and experimental data that appears to
> contradict everything we think we know about how
> reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if
> you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it.
>
> The only people really qualified to even guess at
> what QM "means" are those who at least grasp the
> math and the data.

No disagreement here.  That is one of the wonders of science.  When we
begin to understand one thing, it opens the door to many new mysteries. 
Right now QMs is full of mysteries for science to explore.  Whether what
is learned will tell us anything about consciousness is subject to
considerable debate and considerable doubt.

I doubt any of us here of physicists.  My background  makes me at least
a fair issue spotter.  At best we are equipped to learn where there may
be consensus, to determine what theories are being explored, and to have
a very basic understanding of what the issues are regarding one theory
or another.  For us to try to draw conclusions about anything regarding
QM is fun, but that is about it.  Because theorists tend to get attached
to their theories, we cannot even draw good conclusions about what they
say is evidence in support of their theories unless there is pretty good
consensus in the applicable scientific community.

>

[FairfieldLife] Islamic Jesus

[bob_brigante]

"The bulk of "Jesus, the Spirit of God", which won an award at the 2007 
Religion Today Film Festival in Italy, faithfully follows the 
traditional tale of Jesus as recounted in the New Testament Gospels, a 
narrative reproduced in the Koran and accepted by Muslims. 

But in Talebzadeh's movie, God saves Jesus, depicted as a fair-
complexioned man with long hair and a beard, from crucifixion and takes 
him straight to heaven. 

"It is frankly said in the Koran that the person who was crucified was 
not Jesus" but Judas, one of the 12 Apostles and the one the Bible 
holds betrayed Jesus to the Romans, he said. In his film, it is Judas 
who is crucified. 

Islam sees Jesus as one of five great prophets -- others being Noah, 
Moses and Abraham -- sent to earth to announce the coming of Mohammed, 
the final prophet who spread the religion of Islam. It respects Jesus' 
followers as "people of the book". 

http://tinyurl.com/ysavuv

[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
> http://maharishichannel.org/
> Highly recommended !

Thanks Nabby, I enjoyed it from my Asura level.  Now let me get this
straight...

The most creative enlightened people in the world, in whose hands the
future of world peace rests, and the hope for elimination of all
suffering...these guys can't do a better animation job to illustrate
this most important event in human history than my local Indian cable
channel does on a weekly basis?  Infantile, silly, uncreative, poor
quality, shoddy computer work, poor sense of conveying information
visually...

If I was teaching a bunch of high school kids Web animation I would
flunk this kid.

I enjoyed the chanting.  I can appreciate the ancient tradition of
transmitting knowledge it represents.  But it wasn't created by anyone
in the movement.  The video intro was.

This is just my take on the intro.  Now his immenseness Bevan Jabba
the Hut Morris is speaking in his extra soft delicate voice.  I'll
give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.  








>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on
> the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006
> Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly
> atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla:
>
> "Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. Physicist
> Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time effects in the
> quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments, and required to  
rescue

> consciousness from its unfortunate characterization as epiphenomenal
> illusion) were impossible. He was apparently unaware of the
> verification of Wheeler's delayed choice experiments which precisely
> prove such backward time effects"
>
For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum mind
theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives some idea
of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind Wikipedia
also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement problem and the
falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness become part of the
theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem From what I
have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this "stuff."
Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big consciousness
questions.



Also check out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism

It's a very good synopsis.

[FairfieldLife] MUM student article in Edge Life mag

[bob_brigante]

http://edgelife.net/article.php?id=0910

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on
> > the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006
> > Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly
> > atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla:
> > 
> > "Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. 
> > Physicist Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time
> > effects in the quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments,
> > and required to rescue consciousness from its unfortunate 
> > characterization as epiphenomenal illusion) were impossible.
> > He was apparently unaware of the verification of Wheeler's 
> > delayed choice experiments which precisely prove such backward 
> > time effects"
> > 
> For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum
> mind theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives 
> some idea of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind 
> Wikipedia also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement 
> problem and the falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness 
> become part of the theory.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem

> From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar
> with this "stuff."

Did you read what he wrote that I quoted?? Please go
back and look at it again. If he is familiar with it,
his comments were disingenuous. He suggested that the
backward-in-time problem, for example, was a function
of bad science on MMY/Hagelin's part, rather than an
inherent--and experimentally proven, as Hameroff notes
--paradox of QM.

> Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big
> consciousness questions.

Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose?

> Of course, this all could be a bunch of scientists getting way
> out of the realms of hard science, much like Linus Pauling and 
> vitamin C.

Of course the *interpretations* of QM--Copenhagen,
"many worlds," etc.--are "out of the realm of hard
science." But that's not in any way parallel to
Pauling's ventures with vitamin C.

The "hard science" of QM comprises a bunch of
mathematics and experimental data that appears to
contradict everything we think we know about how
reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if
you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it.

The only people really qualified to even guess at
what QM "means" are those who at least grasp the
math and the data.

[FairfieldLife] The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in theVedic City NOW?already?

[WLeed3]

Did we not several yrs ago contribute to Nader Ram place or palace in Vedic  
city why is he not or seldom present in his palace there?
 
 
In a message dated 1/14/2008 3:20:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Om, this  is beautiful.   I can see the palm tree groves and the  
Palaces.  The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens.   The 
cricket, and polo fields.  It is beautiful.
To which offshore  account can I send money to help make this come 
true as soon as is,  possible?
Jai, -Doug in FF


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Global Capital of  Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan 
(centre) of India
> by  Global Good News staff writer
> 
> Global Good News Translate This Article
> 13 January 2008
> 
> During the  auspicious celebration of 12 January at MERU Holland, 
Maharishi Mahesh  Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, 
asked that it be  announced to the world that on this day the Capital 
of Raam Raj was  established at the Brahmasthan* of India. This will 
be the ceremonial seat  of silence of Maharaja Nader Raam, first 
sovereign ruler of the Global  Country of World Peace, the Rajas 
(Administrators) and Ministers of the  Global Country, and 16,000 
Vedic Pandits. 
> 
> Dr Girish  Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World 
Capital of Peace at  the Brahmasthan of India, reported that 
construction and facilities for  11,000 Vedic Pandits are now almost 
complete, along with 12 Palaces of  Peace for the Rajas of the Global 
Country of World Peace. 
>  
> This campus is being constructed on 50 acres of beautiful land of  
mango orchards, and another 30 palaces will be built soon for the  
Rajas along with buildings for the 12 Ministers of the Global 
Country.  
> 
> In the middle of the whole campus with be a beautiful palace  for 
Maharaja Nader Raam. This will be the Global Capital of Raam Raj,  
Maharishi said, and also the Capital of Invincibility for all the  
Rajas, from where the administration of Brahm [Totality] will bless  
the world all the time. 
> 
> All the buildings are  constructed and aligned with Natural Law 
according to the principles of  Maharishi Sthapatya Veda, the Vedic 
science of architecture in accord with  Natural Law. 
> 
> The Rajas will come and stay there and bless  the area of 16,000 
Vedic Pandits who will be performing both Yoga and  Yagya morning and 
evening, Transcendental Meditation and the  Transcendental Meditation 
Sidhi Programme , including Yogic Flying. The  Vedic Pandits will also 
be doing seven to eight hours of performance of  Maharishi Yagyas 
every day. 
> 
> 'The Global Capital of Raam  Raj will be the most beautiful place on 
earth, full of coherence and bliss  and from there all the Rajas can 
sit and command the countries and  territories of their domain,' Dr 
Varma said. 
> 
> Dr Varma  said that the intention is that everything will be ready 
by Guru Purnima,  the auspicious celebration of the Vedic Tradition of 
Total Knowledge on  the full moon in July, and at that time it will be 
his joy to welcome and  host both his Majesty Maharishi Nader Raam and 
all the Rajas at the  capital of Raam Raj in the Brahmasthan of India. 
> 
> Dr Varma  then announced that since the first of January about 700 
Vedic Pandits are  doing one Maha Rudra Bhishek [special Vedic peace-
creating performance]  every day in the Brahmasthan, and at two other 
locations in India. So  every day three Maha Rudrabhishek are being 
performed. 
> 
>  Maharishi then asked that it be announced that 'with this Raam Raj* 
has  been established in three places. They are the Capitals of Raam 
Raj', and  there will be representatives of Maharaja Nader Raam in 
each place. The  Global Capital of Raam Raj will be at the Brahmasthan 
of India with 16,000  Vedic Pandits. 
> 
> Even if Rajas of the Global Country of World  Peace are not 
physically present there at the Global Capital, there will  be a group 
of Pandits for each Raja, and they will be permanently  performing the 
Yagyas for the Raja's country, for the citizens and  countries of 
their domain. 
> 
> * Brahmasthan: the central  most auspicious center of Natural Law 
for the country 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on
> the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006
> Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly
> atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla:
> 
> "Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. Physicist 
> Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time effects in the 
> quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments, and required to rescue 
> consciousness from its unfortunate characterization as epiphenomenal 
> illusion) were impossible. He was apparently unaware of the 
> verification of Wheeler's delayed choice experiments which precisely 
> prove such backward time effects"
> 
For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum mind
theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives some idea
of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind Wikipedia
also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement problem and the
falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness become part of the
theory.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem  From what I
have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this "stuff."
Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big consciousness
questions. 

Of course, this all could be a bunch of scientists getting way out of
the realms of hard science, much like Linus Pauling and vitamin C.

[FairfieldLife] January 12'th celebrations

[nablusoss1008]

The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at 
http://maharishichannel.org/
Highly recommended !

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > I'm on the road in France right now, and after the
> > business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO
> > versions of my Must See List while here. This film
> > is one of them, *whatever* the ending.
>
> BTW, you might want to check out "Terminator: The Sarah Conner 
> Chronicles" which debuted on Fox last night.  It has Summer Glau 
> from your favorite series in it.

Saw it some time ago in a pre-release version
from Miro. It didn't suck at all, and it's great
to see Summer again.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> I'm on the road in France right now, and after the
> business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO
> versions of my Must See List while here. This film
> is one of them, *whatever* the ending.
BTW, you might want to check out "Terminator: The Sarah Conner 
Chronicles" which debuted on Fox last night.  It has Summer Glau from 
your favorite series in it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India

[dhamiltony2k5]

Om, this is beautiful.   I can see the palm tree groves and the 
Palaces.  The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens.  The 
cricket, and polo fields.  It is beautiful.
To which offshore account can I send money to help make this come 
true as soon as is, possible?
Jai, -Doug in FF


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan 
(centre) of India
> by Global Good News staff writer
> 
> Global Good NewsTranslate This Article
> 13 January 2008
> 
> During the auspicious celebration of 12 January at MERU Holland, 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, 
asked that it be announced to the world that on this day the Capital 
of Raam Raj was established at the Brahmasthan* of India. This will 
be the ceremonial seat of silence of Maharaja Nader Raam, first 
sovereign ruler of the Global Country of World Peace, the Rajas 
(Administrators) and Ministers of the Global Country, and 16,000 
Vedic Pandits. 
> 
> Dr Girish Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World 
Capital of Peace at the Brahmasthan of India, reported that 
construction and facilities for 11,000 Vedic Pandits are now almost 
complete, along with 12 Palaces of Peace for the Rajas of the Global 
Country of World Peace. 
> 
> This campus is being constructed on 50 acres of beautiful land of 
mango orchards, and another 30 palaces will be built soon for the 
Rajas along with buildings for the 12 Ministers of the Global 
Country. 
> 
> In the middle of the whole campus with be a beautiful palace for 
Maharaja Nader Raam. This will be the Global Capital of Raam Raj, 
Maharishi said, and also the Capital of Invincibility for all the 
Rajas, from where the administration of Brahm [Totality] will bless 
the world all the time. 
> 
> All the buildings are constructed and aligned with Natural Law 
according to the principles of Maharishi Sthapatya Veda, the Vedic 
science of architecture in accord with Natural Law. 
> 
> The Rajas will come and stay there and bless the area of 16,000 
Vedic Pandits who will be performing both Yoga and Yagya morning and 
evening, Transcendental Meditation and the Transcendental Meditation 
Sidhi Programme , including Yogic Flying. The Vedic Pandits will also 
be doing seven to eight hours of performance of Maharishi Yagyas 
every day. 
> 
> 'The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be the most beautiful place on 
earth, full of coherence and bliss and from there all the Rajas can 
sit and command the countries and territories of their domain,' Dr 
Varma said. 
> 
> Dr Varma said that the intention is that everything will be ready 
by Guru Purnima, the auspicious celebration of the Vedic Tradition of 
Total Knowledge on the full moon in July, and at that time it will be 
his joy to welcome and host both his Majesty Maharishi Nader Raam and 
all the Rajas at the capital of Raam Raj in the Brahmasthan of India. 
> 
> Dr Varma then announced that since the first of January about 700 
Vedic Pandits are doing one Maha Rudra Bhishek [special Vedic peace-
creating performance] every day in the Brahmasthan, and at two other 
locations in India. So every day three Maha Rudrabhishek are being 
performed. 
> 
> Maharishi then asked that it be announced that 'with this Raam Raj* 
has been established in three places. They are the Capitals of Raam 
Raj', and there will be representatives of Maharaja Nader Raam in 
each place. The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be at the Brahmasthan 
of India with 16,000 Vedic Pandits. 
> 
> Even if Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace are not 
physically present there at the Global Capital, there will be a group 
of Pandits for each Raja, and they will be permanently performing the 
Yagyas for the Raja's country, for the citizens and countries of 
their domain. 
> 
> * Brahmasthan: the central most auspicious center of Natural Law 
for the country 
> 
> Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?

[John]

Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods.  Hence, he 
may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches.
> 
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:04 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> 
> > I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'.
> >
> > kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a 
chief
> > of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. 
Vais3ravan2a
> > AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. &c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and
> > treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called %
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. &c. ; (he is regarded 
as
> > the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the
> > Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented
> > as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the
> > attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; 
N.
> > of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a-
> > bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta-
> > candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , 
monstrous
> > L. ; slow , lazy L.**
> >
> > [*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as
> > an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word.
> >
> > [**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although 
given
> > in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published 
text).
> >
> > http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest mmy-hype

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello, dear Rick,
> 
> thx for posting the latest from the mmy-centre
> on your FFL.
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> Here is my point:

>> And be careful. There are so many rotten buildings throughout 
history all
> over the globe,
> that where maybe important during their time, centuries ago.
> Pyramids, temples, whole cities. 
> They all are empty and no one knows their real meaning. 
> Reason ? No more competent people to run them.
> So pls. don`t ad some more incompetent block building.

And so many rotten people. Go back to your underground cave where 
you belong.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know?  
>>> The ending I saw was lame- in IMO.  No resolution, no bad guy 
>>> getting offed.  Just kind of absurd at the end.
>>>   
>> As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions.  We expect the
>> bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he 
>> has no unfinished business.  Instead we get something more akin to 
>> real life.
>> 
>
> Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie
> for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-)
>
> Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the
> movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know*
> that things aren't going to get explained or wrap-
> ped up in neat little packages at the end. 
>
> I'm on the road in France right now, and after the
> business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO
> versions of my Must See List while here. This film
> is one of them, *whatever* the ending.
How many times have you watched "Fargo" knowing well how it ends?   I 
have watched it many times.  It's the pleasure of watching the Cohen 
brothers craft of storytelling that keeps me coming back.  And I'm 
looking forward to seeing "No Country for Old Men" again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know?  
> > The ending I saw was lame- in IMO.  No resolution, no bad guy 
> > getting offed.  Just kind of absurd at the end.
> 
> As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions.  We expect the
> bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he 
> has no unfinished business.  Instead we get something more akin to 
> real life.

Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie
for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-)

Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the
movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know*
that things aren't going to get explained or wrap-
ped up in neat little packages at the end. 

I'm on the road in France right now, and after the
business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO
versions of my Must See List while here. This film
is one of them, *whatever* the ending.

[FairfieldLife] Kucinich Diamond: Clarity, Cut-above, CareLit Weight, and Colorful Spirit

[Duveyoung]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--eVRYFd7kg&feature=user

Here's a nice, sit-down-be-straight, calm, cogent talk with Kucinich.
 He comes off as SO REAL.  They say he's a meditator, and in this
video, he FEELS like one.

He just lays it on the line so succinctly.

MSNBC kicked him out of the debate they invited him to in Las Vegas --
this is so understandable when you see the video above -- they just
don't want a debate where true core values have a hero like this.  In
his light, all the other offerings are sputtering candle flames
comparatively.

Edg.

[FairfieldLife] The latest mmy-hype

[Rick Archer]

Hello, dear Rick,

thx for posting the latest from the mmy-centre
on your FFL.

cheers


Here is my point:

One word to the latest hype around Mr. M.
Planning is his shadow-part of his personality.
It comes from a former life, where he was in charge, and planned, and built.
These things still exist. And people look at it, wonder, and don`t
understand,
what they are meant for.
The dark part of his inner side is: You should be happy according to my
plans.
There you get overshadowed, if you accept that.

Look back into 1977. We where fresh and new. Coming out of the 6 months
course,
we all where hopping, and giving out new knowledge. And we where made
competent
to give these new courses. And we had several meditation academies in no
time. 15 or more alone in germany.

So the idea, big buildings would bring in something competent ?
Think again. England. Mr. M. had some magnificient buildings. All bought.
Mentmore Towers, Roydan Hall. So did those buildings bring in the people for
meditation ?
Did he have competent people filling them with knowledge ? Hardly.
If someone shows you around and is impressed by the building alone, be sure
he is some
kind of museum guide. Nothing more.

So if you follow a hollow plan, even throw in some money to make it happen,
be sure to
be disappointed. Things grow out of itself. But did people grow ?
Do people radiate a new kind of thrill, enlightenment ?
Or do they simply talk ?

Be sure to next time distinguish between merely touristic set-ups, called
courses,
that mainly want your attendance, your silence, and nothing more.
And those opportunities, that train you into more and bigger competence. 
Which later is acknowledged with success in society.

And be careful. There are so many rotten buildings throughout history all
over the globe,
that where maybe important during their time, centuries ago.
Pyramids, temples, whole cities. 
They all are empty and no one knows their real meaning. 
Reason ? No more competent people to run them.
So pls. don`t ad some more incompetent block building.

Maybe look into your heart, and see, what you really aspire for.

 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jan. 12 Notes

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From a friend:
> 
> Today was incredible. Nader Raam's farewell message to Maharishi, I will
> never forget. Maharishi is so fulfilled he is turning everything over to
> Nader Raam and 'the Invincible Raja of America' and all the
ministers and
> Rajas.
> 
> Nader Raam said something like, 'I know you said you would always be
with
> me. I know that is true. But why, suddenly are you leaving me to be
on my
> own... Words cannot express how much I adore you I cannot imagine
> opening my eyes and not be able to say Jai Guru Dev I will not be
> fulfilled again until I see you everywhere and in everyone in the
world..
> 
> It was so moving. Many were in tears.


Well, that takes care of Goneril. Who's gonna
be Regan?

[FairfieldLife] Fourth Uncle in the Mountain

[Vaj]

Highly recommended.

A review by Michael J. Wilson on www.amazon.com of "*Fourth Uncle in  
the Mountain: The
Remarkable Legacy of a Buddhist Itinerant Doctor in Vietnam (Paperback)
by Marjorie Pivar

  In buddhist legend, meditation adepts attain a "samadhi fantastic  
beyond
description". This is Fourth Uncle. The magic, sorcery, and martial art
stories give way to the natural magic of one pointed concentration -  
in the
cave of the primoridal, original, and pristine mind. I enjoyed this  
book so
much, in spite of the tragic backdrop of pre and post Vietnamese  
colonial
history. There is a great human truth here, that goes beyond  
religions, in
the narration that radiates out through the eyes of a child coming into
adulthood. There is also a lot of what is called by aboriginal peoples,
"indigenous knowledge" about Viet Nam, which sadly may be disappearing
because of enviromental desecration. This book is also a hommage to  
the folk
doctor tradition. This tradition, so vital to the revitalization of the
human spirit, is also in danger of being marginalized by  
institutionalized
medicine. Better that it be accommodated for what it is - natural  
wisdom.



(Author)

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0312314310/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200310734&sr=8-1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?

[Peter]

--- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote:
> 
> > Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches.
> 
> Does it work?
> 
> Sal

Better to invoke Mahalakshmi. More wholistic than
simply material wealth.



> 
> 
> 



  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?

[Vaj]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:


On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote:


Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches.


Does it work?


I guess it might for some. It's a rather common and popular  
initiation in some quarters. Personally, I always preferred Tara.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote:


Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches.


Does it work?

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?

[Vaj]

Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches.

On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:04 AM, cardemaister wrote:


I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'.

kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a chief
of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. Vais3ravan2a
AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. &c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and
treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called %
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. &c. ; (he is regarded as
the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the
Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented
as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the
attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; N.
of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a-
bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta-
candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , monstrous
L. ; slow , lazy L.**

[*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as
an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word.

[**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although given
in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published text).

http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Blacks/LBJ & The Clinton Years'

[MDixon6569]

 
In a message dated 1/14/08 6:26:41 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The Republicans want to take us back to the 50's.
Do we really want to go back in time?
 



Right, black and white TV and everything.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men

[Peter]

I read the book before I saw the movie and the scene
that ends the movie appears about half way through the
book. The movie and book are really about Tommy Lee
Jones's character but most of what you you see on the
screen and also in the book is about the josh Brolin
character. Go figure. Its actually clearer in the book
because the Jones' character introduces each chapter
with a train of thought. They tried that in the movie,
but i don't think it worked as well.

--- lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>   I didn't see it, Steve, but I have seen references
>  to "the ending."
> Even the producer's website  has a link called
> "Notes on the ending,"
> which  has, in turn, links to discussions of it. 
> Visit
> http://www.nocountryforoldmen.com/.
> 
> 
> Thanks Gilster,  I missed that.  I'll check it out. 
> Defininitely
> recommend it.  Javier Bardem plays an awesome
> villian.
> 
> 
> 



  

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[FairfieldLife] 'Blacks/LBJ & The Clinton Years'

[Robert]

I'm not quite sure what the Clinton's did for Black People.
  During the 90's Black neighborhoods collapsed,
  With an epidemic of crack cocaine, and the incarceration-
  Of tens of thousands of young black men.
  Many neigborhoods in the inner cities began collapsing.
  Jobs were sent overseas.
  During the reign of LBJ, this country came close to being completely ripped 
apart...
  It was the beginning of the great partisan divide...
  The Republicans want to take us back to the 50's.
  Do we really want to go back in time?
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Kubera?

[cardemaister]

I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'.

kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a chief 
of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. Vais3ravan2a 
AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. &c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and 
treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called %
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. &c. ; (he is regarded as 
the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the 
Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented 
as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the 
attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; N. 
of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a-
bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta-
candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , monstrous 
L. ; slow , lazy L.**

[*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as 
an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word.

[**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although given
in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published text).

http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do you grieve for someone you never really knew?

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thinking aloud is often useful.  Just about everything I've heard
said in this forum, good and bad, about the Marshy 


Is your name Angus?

[FairfieldLife] Yugas and virtues

[cardemaister]

maanava-dharma-shaastra I 86:

 tapaH paraM kRtayuge tretaayaaM jñaanamucyate |
 dvaapare yajñamevaahurdaanamekaM kalau yuge ||

(tapaH paraM kRta-yuge tretaayaam; jñaanam ucyate |
dvaapare yajñam eva+aahuH; daanam ekam; kalau yuge ||)

86. In the Krita age the chief (virtue) is declared to be (the 
performance of) austerities, in the Treta (divine) knowledge, in the 
Dvapara (the performance of) sacrifices, in the Kali liberality 
alone.

tapaH (austerities) paraM (chief) kRta-yuge (in the kRta age) 
tretaayaam (in the treta); jñaanam (knowledge) ucyate (is declared) |
dvaapare (in the dvaapara) yajñam (sacrifices) eva+aahuH; daanam 
(liberality) ekam (alone) kalau (in the kali) yuge (in the age)  ||