[FairfieldLife] 'America Addicted to China Like Crack Cocaine'

[Robert]

We have a major addiction problem with China, folks...
They are playing us for fools...
Our good friend: Wal-Mart is an 'Agent of China'...
Our holy search engine, Google comprises it's companies soul, 
For business with China...
Then today, low and behold...
China buys the War-Mongering Hummer, agency of G.M.
China steals and 'Pirates' most all  of our software and everything else,
They can get there hands on.

There good friend, North Korea, acts like China' little brother.
China even supports the brutality in Africa.(Not their problem)
China's God is  American Dollars, and the power contained therein.
At least for now.
Beware of the Cynical Communist Chinese Government...

The China man/woman does like his/her casinos.
(They have their own suites in Las Vegas and Atlantic City.
 
But here is the proof of my rant:

One time last year, when sitting down at 'Pike St. Market, in Seattle...
I saw, with my own eyes...
An older Chinese man, with a large bag of crack cocaine...
I saw him deliver it to the pathetic group of 'Crack Addicts' who congregate 
there...
I am sure, that the Chinese man does not indulge himself, but is helping to 
contribute to the soul's death of these poor helpless street people.

Why in the world, would we trust a 'God-less government, whose little brother 
is North Korea, is just insane, and naive.

R.Gimbel   Madison, WI


  

[FairfieldLife] 'TM in the Peoples Republic of China?'

[Robert]

Does anyone know, if anyone practices TM, in the Peoples Republic of China?
Huge market, I would guess.
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] 'The Peoples Republic/ Gobbles Up Hummer'

[Robert]

By KEITH BRADSHER and NICK BUNKLEY
Published: June 2, 2009

General Motors has reached a preliminary agreement for the sale of its Hummer 
brand of large sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks to a machinery company 
in western China with ambitions to become a carmaker.
 
The buyer is the Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Company, based in 
Chengdu, G.M. said Tuesday. The price was not disclosed, but industry analysts 
had estimated that the Hummer division would sell for less than $500 million.

The deal, expected to close in the third quarter, would make Tengzhong the 
first Chinese company to sell vehicles in North America, though Hummer’s 
operations would remain in the United States.

“The Hummer brand is synonymous with adventure, freedom and exhilaration, and 
we plan to continue that heritage by investing in the business, allowing Hummer 
to innovate and grow in exciting new ways under the leadership and continuity 
of its current management team,” Yang Yi, the chief executive of Tengzhong, 
said in a statement released by G.M. “We will be investing in the Hummer brand 
and its research and development capabilities, which will allow Hummer to 
better meet demand for new products such as more fuel-efficient vehicles in the 
U.S.”

Hummer is one of four brands that G.M., which filed for bankruptcy protection 
Monday, plans to drop. The company also plans to close or sell Saturn and Saab 
later this year and to eliminate Pontiac in 2010. G.M. revealed Tuesday that it 
had 16 bidders for Saturn and three for Saab.

G.M. announced the deal early Tuesday in Detroit but said that the memorandum 
of understanding would not allow it to reveal the buyer or the price. It 
confirmed that the buyer was Tengzhong after The New York Times reported on its 
Web site that the company was seeking approval for the purchase in China.

The White House welcomed the pending sale of Hummer while quickly pointing out 
that it had not been involved. The transaction “is good news for the 3,000 
Americans who will be able to keep their jobs, the two American plants that 
will remain open and the more than 100 Hummer dealers that should be able to 
stay in business all around the country,” said Bill Burton, a presidential 
spokesman.

“As the president said, the U.S. government is not going to get involved in the 
day-to-day business decisions of G.M. — and this is an example in which it did 
not,” he added. “This sale came as a result of a commercial process and G.M. 
reached an agreement that will keep thousands of Americans working in a 
situation that could have ended instead with a devastating liquidation of this 
company.”

Tengzhong is a privately owned company, but Tuesday’s deal required preliminary 
vetting by Beijing officials, who retain the right to veto any effort at an 
overseas acquisition by a Chinese company and who give special attention to 
deals of more than $100 million.

Tengzhong is known in China for making a wide range of road equipment, from 
bridge piers to highway construction and maintenance machinery. But even before 
the Hummer deal, the company had been moving more into heavy-duty trucks, 
including tow trucks and oil tankers.

“Over all, we’re pretty pleased,” said a Hummer spokesman, Nick Richards. “If 
you think about the qualities we’d want in a new owner for the brand, this 
buyer really met all the criteria. They’ve got a proven track record in 
international business, and they’ve got a long-term vision for the brand. 
They’ve got the capital to invest in more efficient vehicles, which is what’s 
necessary to grow the brand.”

If the deal is completed, it would be the first acquisition of a well-known 
American auto brand by a Chinese company, after many months of speculation 
about such a deal. Chinese automakers have already purchased the MG and Rover 
brands, two of the most famous names in British automotive history.

As a Chinese company, Tengzhong could face a challenge in presenting the deal 
to American Hummer owners. The brand has long sought to emphasize patriotism, 
stressing that the Hummer H1 was essentially the same vehicle built in the same 
factory as the Humvee that carries American soldiers into battle in Iraq and 
elsewhere.

It was Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California who persuaded the longtime 
maker of Humvees, A. M. General in Mishawaka, Ind., to build a civilian 
version. As he recounted at a Hummer news conference in 2001, Mr. 
Schwarzenegger was filming the movie “Kindergarten Cop” in Oregon in 1990 when 
he saw a convoy of 50 Humvees drive by and decided that he had to have a 
civilian model of the same vehicle, which became the Hummer H1.

G.M. bought the rights to the Hummer brand in 1999 and began making somewhat 
smaller Hummers. G.M. initially procured the H1 from A. M. General, but 
discontinued the model in 2006.


  

[FairfieldLife] 'The Familiar Place'

[Robert]

The Familiar Place


Recently, I’ve been thinking about the geography of familiarity. By that I mean 
something like a map of my habitat, the paths I travel most often, the places I 
feel most comfortable, the routines embedded in the rural and urban landscapes 
I know best. Most days, familiarity seems inherent in the world right around 
me, but every now and then I remember that it’s really an artifact of 
consciousness, a form of perception that can be lost, say, in someone with 
Alzheimer’s. It’s disorienting to grasp that the world itself is neutral and 
that all the familiarity and unfamiliarity I feel is being carried around in my 
head.

A few weeks ago, I went to dinner at a restaurant in a part of northern 
Dutchess County that was utterly unknown to me. Afterward, I asked my GPS to 
guide me home. It did so, as always, with an eerie sang-froid, an unflappable 
inability to distinguish familiar from unfamiliar. I wound northward over the 
hills with no idea where I really was. And as I drove, I admired not only the 
beauty of the night but also the pleasurable sense of being comfortably lost. 
At last I came to an unfamiliar intersection and made a right. The moment I did 
so, I knew exactly where I was, and I could feel my sense of being displaced in 
the night slip away. It was like looking into an unknown sky and seeing the 
stars suddenly whirl about until they formed the age-old, long-familiar 
constellations of my childhood.

The surprise wasn’t just being reoriented so abruptly. It was also discovering 
that an unfamiliar world lay a few dozen yards off a road I drive all the time. 
In a way, the unfamiliarity of that world has been eroded now by driving 
through it once.

The more I think about that seam between the familiar and the unfamiliar — and 
how it feels to pass from one to the other — the clearer it becomes that humans 
instinctively generate a sense of familiarity. You can sense it for yourself 
the next time you drive someplace you’ve never been before. Somehow, it always 
feels as though it takes longer to get there than it does to get back home 
again. It’s as if there’s a principle of relativity, a bending of time, in the 
very concept of familiarity. The road we know is always shorter than the road 
we don’t know — even if the distances are the same.

How these matters feel to other species, I can’t even begin to guess. But what 
they mean for us is that home is ultimately a portable concept, something we’ve 
nearly all discovered for ourselves in our mobile lives. The trick, of course — 
and it is a hard one to master — is to think of home not as a place we go to or 
come from, not as something inherent in the world itself, but as a place we 
carry inside ourselves, a place where we welcome the unfamiliar because we know 
that as time passes it will become the very bedrock of our being.  
By VERLYN KLINKENBORG
Published: June 3, 2009
NYT


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Richard J. Williams"
 wrote:
>
> BillyG wrote:
> > Does TM awaken kundalini?
> >
> Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the
> fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini
> through the chakras.
>
> MMY explained this many times, but he did not
> use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the
> 'bubble diagram' metaphor.>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Richard J. Williams"
 wrote:
>
> BillyG wrote:
> > Does TM awaken kundalini?
> >
> Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the
> fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini
> through the chakras.
>
> MMY explained this many times, but he did not
> use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the
> 'bubble diagram' metaphor.>

No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest of your post is pure ignorance.
Stop postng ignorance about Kundalini and TM. The bubble diagram DOES
NOT represent kundalini in any way.
Maharishi said kundalini rises and falls due to physical contact with
the Absolute. Pay no attention to it, just enjoy and do not get attached
to it. It can be part of the process, that is all.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Yahoo posting delays

[Alex Stanley]

Looks like Yahoo is in a pissy mood again. For example, Offie's latest post 
took 7 hours and 20 minutes to show up.



  

[FairfieldLife] Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[off_world_beings]

Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of them
first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung, etc.
and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what do
you disagree with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0


OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo posting delays

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley  
wrote:
>
> 
> Looks like Yahoo is in a pissy mood again. For example, Offie's latest post 
> took 7 hours and 20
> minutes to show up.

BTW, the delay only affects posts that are sent via the web interface. Posts 
sent by email, like this one and the one I'm now replying to, are posted 
immediately.

FairfieldLife AT yahoogroups.com



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Going to the Saints

[dhamiltony2k5]

Om, these saints they help with the subtle structures of the energy system 
within the human physiology.  Subtle energy structures of the body-mind complex 
where house the soul as consciousness.Is that simple.

They work in their modalities to help people as folks come along with their 
energy systems to uphold spiritual experience.  They work the spin, florescence 
and integrity of the subtle system within the physiology of the body and 
nervous system.  

As such the saints simply help people with their individual spiritual 
experience or capacity at whatever level they are at.   The saints come around 
& make themselves available to help people.  Seems any of the maha saints are 
about this and earnest in the work to help folks with this.  They can help 
people with their systems and fix some things when things that may not be 
working well or are broke.  They can work miracles sometimes with this.

Is part of their work as mission and why they come around to see people.  Is 
very worthwhile just getting to sit with some of them.  To meditate with them 
and then also have the time of their attention too in their programs.  Jeez 
folks, make use of it when it comes around if you can.  

Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF 



>
> As a meditator I always find it useful going to the saints.  Always 
> clarifying or helpful to the spiritual experience.   That's what they come 
> around  for, to help people with their spiritual experience in a human life.
>


 
> Practically, go more than once and you'll get to be less self-conscious or 
> more innocent in a way to what is going on.  They seem always helpful in the 
> so many reasons that folks may go see them.  Just go sit down & meditate.  
> Git in line.   Sit with it.   You'll proly find you feel better.  Is that 
> simple.   Is a form of spiritual practice, as in going to the saints is 
> something you kind of have to elect to do.  Sort of like electing to sit and 
> meditate.  In practice.
> 
> That part is a lot like the difference between a `yes'=meditator, and  
> non-meditators.  
> 
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> 
> -Doug in FF
>

[FairfieldLife] US ranked 83rd most peaceful country

[Vaj]

"Americans pining for a peaceful existence might consider moving to  
New Zealand, the most peaceful nation on Earth, according to the 2009  
Global Peace Index released Tuesday by an Australian-based research  
group that counts former President Jimmy Carter, Ted Turner and the  
Dalai Lama among its endorsers.


"The U.S. is 83rd on the roster, according to the Institute for  
Economics and Peace that rated the relative tranquility of 144  
nationsaccording to 23 'indicators' - including gun sales, the number  
of homicides, the size of the military, the potential for terrorism  
and the number of people in jail.


"The index defined peace as 'the absence of violence,' and so far,  
things are a little dicey. Violence and instability have increased,  
respect for human rights has decreased. The researchers also  
calculated that the world's nations have collectively lost close to  
$8 trillion due to the complications of widespread violence.


"After New Zealand, the top 10 most peaceful nations are Denmark,  
Norway, Iceland, Austria, Sweden, Japan, Canada, Finland and  
Slovenia. In the bottom 10 are Zimbabwe, Russia, Pakistan, Chad,  
Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan, Israel, Somalia, Afghanistan  
and, in last place, Iraq."


Full story at:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/03/new-zealand-rated- 
most-peaceful-us-83rd/

[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "gullible fool"  wrote:
>
> > So, now the moderators are making a list of IP 
> > addresses
> 
> No, only Alex, because he's related to a raja and we all know
> how valuable that sort of information is to the TM inquisition.

No, I am not making a list of IP addresses. I am, apparently, the only one who 
knows that it's possible to click "View Source" on any message in the FFL 
archives and check the header for IP information. That information is available 
to the entire world because the FFL archives are public. IF the TMO needs a 
list of FFLer IP addresses, they can damn well compile it themselves.

[FairfieldLife] Vajra-duta Natha-duta Yama-duta: many heads, numerous titles, abundant eminence

[billy jim]

Vaj:

And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you
have no clue what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never 
discussed
them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials and
authorizations might be. 

 

 

Well gosh Vaj. You mean you're not a nath-guru?



But that can't be true 'cuz your disciple Kaladevi told me she received
teachings and initiation from you and that you were a real nath-acharya. I
think you're just too modest. You really don't want to present yourself that
way because you would be embarrassed by all the accolades. 



However, it is nice to know how tight you are with the Shankaracharyas. One of
the maths is in trouble now with the Indian government. I’m sure you must be
helping them out. Did the US government allow the Indian constabulary to depose
you in the murder case against Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati and his junior
partner? Since you are so close to the "Shanks" that would make
sense.



That would also explain why you attacked that poor naive pandit here on FFL.
Can't have too many pandits on the same forum can we? Especially if there might
be some South Indian religious politics intertwined. You are a pandit aren't
you? Why else would those mighty gentlemen whom you call your
"Shanks" consort with you?



Let's see ... since you have an american body that must mean they recognize
that you are actually a maha-tantrika reborn here to lead us dumb westerners
from darkness to light. Yeah, that's it ... tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, etc. Well 
that
make sense. According to your disciple Kaladevi, we are just too ignorant to
know how eminent you are on the high altars of the Natha-duta lineage.



Oh, by the way, so sorry for your Tigers. Those theravada soldiers in Sri Lanka
didn't seem to project the level of compassion you've so often discussed and 
embraced
here on FFL. They just killed those Tamil Tigers without even reading them the
Satipatthana Sutta first. Must have been jungle karma from old leftover
tantrika mantras ... courtesy of that multi-headed rakshasa Ravana - enemy of
Lord Ram. Since you also have mutiple heads, I'm wondering if maybe that's your
secret too. Let's see - as a pandit that would make you a
Brahma-Rakshasa.  



Now that I think about it ... gosh  ...  I better be more careful.



Oops ... gulp gulp, sweat sweat. So sorry Lord Nath. Thank you, thank you, for
not obliterating me with your maha-astra mantras and once and for all doing
away with me ... just because you could. Of course, I know that's not your only
reason, since doing that might scare away your admirers here FFL. Gosh that too
just shows your keen wisdom.


  

[FairfieldLife] Adam Engle on the Mind and Life Institute

[Vaj]

http://personallifemedia.com/podcasts/236-buddhist-geeks/episodes/ 
47618-evolution-mind-life


The beginning, course and success of the Mind and Life Institute, the  
most successful and in depth investigation of meditation in human  
history.


LINK

Adam Engle, the business mastermind behind the Mind and Life  
Institute, joins us to discuss both the evolution of the project as  
well as its larger impact.  The first Mind and Life Dialogue was held  
in Dharamsala, India in 1987 with His Holiness the Dalai Lama.  Since  
then, Adam says, it has done more than any other organization to help  
"legitimatize the scientific study of meditation."


Listen in to hear more about how they've gone about creating an  
active collaboration between scientists and contemplatives, and what  
kind of fruit that collaboration has borne.




Our founding premise, Francisco and the Dalai Lama and I, observed  
that science is the dominant paradigm for understanding the nature of  
reality in modern society, and providing a knowledge base for  
improving human lives.  And Buddhism, while it is a path of  
liberation, is not based on faith or theology, but is based on also  
understanding the nature of reality and then using that to provide a  
knowledge base for improving lives.  So we thought that if we could  
find a way that science and Buddhism could actually be in dialogue,  
share their findings and collaborate, there were two very, very  
powerful systems of knowing that used different instrumentalities,  
but that humanity could benefit if they were in collaboration.   
Science, of course, proves itself through the scientific method and  
technology and objective verification.  Buddhism, and the other  
world's living contemplative traditions, use the human nervous  
system, the human mind, refined by meditation, as the instrument of  
investigation.  But they're both very, very empirical in a sense.   
And there really wasn't any way for them to share their findings to  
collaborate.


So the thought was, "Well, how do you do that?"  And we thought, if  
we could just get a few people together in a room…  And so, in 1987…  
I started working on it in 1983, but it was 1987 by the time we  
actually got the first meeting going.  And it was hosted by the Dalai  
Lama in his audience room, in his home, in Dharamsala.  It was seven  
days on Buddhism and the neurosciences, cognitive sciences.  And it  
was amazing.  And it was a start.  And in the beginning it was just,  
like, a lark, “Let's see if we can do this.”  And, then afterwards I  
asked the Dalai Lama, “Do you want to do it again?”  And he said,  
“Yes.”  And we did another one, and another one, and another one,  
another one. 

[FairfieldLife] ‘The Four Horses of the Apocolypse’ (LIVE )

[Robert]

'The Hanussen Free Press'
 
I am revealing the ‘Four Legs of the Fascist Propaganda Machine!
They are: Rush Limbaugh, Fox news, The Drudge Report and Dick Cheney, Inc.
These f4 Entities are speading: Lies, Fear, Confusion, Dumbed Down, 
Manipulations, etc.
These guys(and gals), are in the last throes of their evil reign...
These are the ‘Dead-Enders’ 
Of our ‘Re-birthed- Nation’
And, Thank God for That!
 
Robert Gimbel   Madison, WI


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:

> > > With what seems like quite a large number of these
> > > circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
> > > being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
> > 
> > Yes. What do you conclude from that?
> >
>   Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
>   Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe
> could have some yet to be discovered meaning.
>   I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to
> find out.

I don't think it's all BS either. Apparently many of
them are human-made--creating them has become sort of
a hobby-cum-cult--but the origin of others is unclear.
There's a great deal of material on the Web about them;
it's not as if nobody's done any investigating.

A lot of it is silly, IMHO, but there's also been some
pretty hard scientific research that has identified
very strange features--altered molecular structure in
the plants, for example (features that are not found
in circles that are known to be human-made).

And it seems that they simply don't get made if
anybody's watching.

I don't think they're messages from the Space
Brothers, but I really have no clue whatsoever what/
who might be creating the ones that don't seem to
have been made by humans.

Some of them are amazingly sophisticated 
mathematically.

I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
short of remarkable.

It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
more compelling the more you look into it.

We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
some people very nervous, judging from the near-
hysterical tone of their skepticism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

No, I am not making a list of IP addresses. I am, apparently, the  
only one who knows that it's possible to click "View Source" on any  
message in the FFL archives and check the header for IP information.  
That information is available to the entire world because the FFL  
archives are public. IF the TMO needs a list of FFLer IP addresses,  
they can damn well compile it themselves.


Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
I can get the long header, and then pull up the
Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld-Music Only: -- OffWorld Tribute to Kate Bush

[off_world_beings]

>
> Headphones required for this thread: (go up-thread for more of
> OffWorld's picks.)
>
> OffWorld bows down profusely. Hendrix rents the temple in two.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbJ4pfHmfg&feature=related

>  >
>
> OffWorld
>


Headphones required for this thread: (go up-thread for more of
OffWorld's picks.)

OffWorld Tribute to Kate Bush:
This will consist of about 5 videos from Kate, from the 1980's, but that
barely scratches the surface of this Keltic genius -- Kate Bush.

Its at times like this that I wish Curtis was still alive. 
Seriously...it is hard being the only music lover, and Curtis was at
least that if nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ


OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Happy And Why?

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "do.rflex" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Consider this: in surveys such as this one,
> > the impoverished people of Calcutta, India,
> > living in crude shacks and with little access
> > to clean water, register about even with Americans
> > on the happiness scale -- and well ahead of the
> > Chinese, South Koreans, and Japanese.
> >
> > Meanwhile, relatively poor Puerto Ricans and Columbians,
> > appear to be among the happiest people on the globe.>
> 
> I agree with your insinuation that material wealth does not bring true
> happiness in every case, and poverty does not mean true desperation in
> every case.
> 
> However...on the one hand, this study only shows that there can be one
> of two things going on:
> 
> 1. Ignorance is bliss (which is not a good situation that you would wish
> on your worst enemy)
> 
> and/or
> 
> 2. Freedom and education leads to the realization that we are livng in
> ignorance, and you want better for all mankind. (This, by the way, is
> your future gestalt as an enlightened person.)
> 
> Either way, in 1 or 1 above, you want elightenment above all.
> 
> OffWorld
>
When the educational system is based on making money, then things become, 
pretty superficial...
When people are afraid to talk to one another, then loneliness prevails...
When mothers think that it is more important to get a job, then stay with the 
babies, you have lonely babies...and kids.
When you pollute the minds of young people with violent music, movies and video 
games, you create a soul-less bunch...

It is so arrogant to think that we are so much more educated and better than 
these more simple cultures, then we are deluded...

When Americans watched their country invade another country, and killed 
100,000's of people, praised the benefits of torture, then you have a Fascist 
Regime..people lose their conscious.

Americans are needing to be rehabilitated...they are mostly a bunch of 
sheep-like drunken, sleep-walking zombies...
R.g.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Bhairitu]

Sal Sunshine wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
>> No, I am not making a list of IP addresses. I am, apparently, the 
>> only one who knows that it's possible to click "View Source" on any 
>> message in the FFL archives and check the header for IP information. 
>> That information is available to the entire world because the FFL 
>> archives are public. IF the TMO needs a list of FFLer IP addresses, 
>> they can damn well compile it themselves.
>
> Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
> I can get the long header, and then pull up the
> Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
> which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
> I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
> Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.
>
> Sal
>
>

Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own server 
it is hard to tell since most individuals have "leased" IP not static 
service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only get 
the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is using the 
Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP address.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
> > > 
> > >   
> > >
> >   With what seems like quite a large number of these
> > circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
> > being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
> 
> Yes. What do you conclude from that?

Small balls of light has been filmed as they/it created a huge Crop Circle in 
less than one minute. The video is there to buy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

[emptybill]

Vaj:



And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no clue
what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never discussed
them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials
and authorizations might be. It's just a childish uptight game you're
playing.


Well gosh Vaj. You mean you're not a nath-guru?

But that can't be true 'cuz your disciple Kaladevi told me she received
teachings and initiation from you and that you were a real nath-acharya.
I think you're just being too modest. You really don't want to present
yourself that way because you would be embarrassed by all the accolades.

However, it is nice to know how tight you are with the Shankaracharyas.
Did the US government allow the Indian constabulary to depose you in the
murder case against Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati and his junior
partner? Since you are so close to the "Shanks" that would make sense.

That would also explain why you attacked that poor naive pandit here on
FFL.Can't have too many pandits on the same forum can we? Especially if
there might be some Tamil religious politics intertwined. You are a
pandit aren't you? Why else would those mighty guys you call your
"Shanks" consort with you?

Let's see ... since you have an American body that must mean they
recognize that you are actually a maha-tantrika reborn here to lead us
dumb westerners from darkness to light. Yeah, that's it ... tamaso ma
jyotir gamaya … et al. That would explain why, according to your
disciple Kaladevi, we are just too ignorant to know how eminent you are
on the high altars of the Natha-duta lineage.

Oh, by the way, so sorry for your Tigers. Those Theravada soldiers in
Sri Lanka just didn't seem to project the level of compassion you've so
often embraced here on FFL. They just killed those Tamil Tigers without
even reading them the Satipatthana Sutta first. Must have been jungle
karma from old leftover tantrika mantras... courtesy of that
multi-headed rakshasa – Ravana, enemy of Lord Ram.

By the way, since you also have mutiple heads, I'm wondering if maybe
that's your secret too. Let's see - as a pandit that would make you a
Brahma-Rakshasa.

Now that I think about it ... gosh  ...  I better be more careful.

Gulp Gulp, sweat sweat ... thank you, thank you, O' Brahma-Rakshasa Vaj
for not obliterating me with your maha-astra mantras - once and for all
doing away with me, just because you could. Of course, I know that's not
your only reason, since doing that might scare away your admirers here
FFL. Gosh that too just shows your keen wisdom.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 1:21 PM, emptybill wrote:
>
> > No doubt,  just for Vaj, they must have brushed off AdiShankara's
> > disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his
> > Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told  - this is more
> > insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim.
>
> I think the easiest "inside" claim for Shankara being primarily a
> Vashnavite is that his core works, the ones the most will agree were
> actually written by him, not merely attributed to him, proclaim saguna
> Brahman as synonymous with narayana or vasudeva! ;-)
>
> Dead give away if you ask me! That's of course not to say that he
> didn't have Smarta leanings as well. Of course he did.
>
> And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no clue
what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never discussed
them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials
and authorizations might be. It's just a childish uptight  game you're
playing.
>

[FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Summer Assembly

[Dick Mays]

Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:36:24 -0500
From: Dome Announcements 

Guru Purnima Summer Assembly
http://invincibleamerica.org/

* Guru Purnima - On July 7 celebrate with our 
world family the most auspicious day of the year 
when we honor the greatness of the Holy Tradition.

* Maharishi - float in the bliss of Maharishi's 
Pure Knowledge each evening with a selection of 
the most inspiring and historic lectures from his 
50 years of teaching, and enjoy each morning 
program as Maharishi comments on the Invincible 
America participants #1 experiences.

* Group Program - Do your program with the 
largest coherence-creating group in the western 
hemisphere - 2,000 Yogic Flyers altogether, 
including nearly 1,000 Maharishi VedicSM Pandits, 
members of the PurushaSM Program, and Mother 
DivineSM Program.

* Vedic Performances - sit in the presence of our 
Maharishi Vedic Pandits and experience the 
thrilling performance of Rudrabhishek Maha Yagya.

* Special TM-Sidhi® Checking Meeting - with the 
TM-Sidhi Program Administrators of North America 
Drs. Doug and Linda Birx. Personal consultations 
will also be possible.

* Create coherence for the nation - help keep our Super-Radiance numbers
high while the Maharishi School of the Age of EnlightenmentSM and Maharishi
University of ManagementSM students are on vacation.

GUEST SPEAKERS

* Raja John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America - 
on the success of the David Lynch Foundation and 
the rapid expansion of our Movement in North 
America.

* Prime Minister, Dr. Bevan Morris - will present 
the latest news and inspiration from around the 
world and will answer questions from Assembly 
participants. He will also show beautiful slides 
from his recent two-month stay in India.

* Father Gabriel Mejia - the Catholic priest who 
has established schools where thousands of poor 
Columbian children practice the Transcendental 
Meditation® and TM-Sidhi programs. Maharishi 
called him the saint of
Columbia.

* Enjoy highlights of the New York

* City Change Begins Within benefit

* concert on April 4.

* Dr. David Lynch, Dr. Bobby Roth, and Dr. Mario 
Orsatti - will present and reflect on highlights 
of the New York City Change Begins Within benefit 
concert on April 4. They will also show video 
footage of the concert. Dr. Lynch will be 
connected by conference call.

* Professor Evan Finkelstein, National Director 
of Religion and Culture and Professor of 
Maharishi Vedic ScienceSM at M.U.M. - will give a 
two-lesson seminar on "Universal Principles of 
Life" expressed in Maharishi Vedic Science, 
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.


OTHER HIGHLIGHTS

* Governor Refresher (i.e. Recertification) 
Course  July 6-21 - Attend this precious two-week 
course and join the growing number of Governors 
of the Age of Enlightenment actively teaching the 
Transcendental Meditation program throughout 
North America. For information and to apply, go 
to 
https://invincibleamerica.securesites.com/recertification/

* Become a Sidha - Complete your TM-Sidhi Program 
by joining 55 Rising Sidhas for this two-week 
flying block July 4-18.

* Vedic Architecture - Tour the sites and hear 
presentations on new construction of affordable 
ideally located Vastu housing being built for 
Invincible America Assembly participants.

* Maharishi Tower of InvincibilitySM - Help celebrate its completion.

ENTERTAINMENT AND FUN

* Maharishi Gandharva VedaSM concerts.

* Paul Faureso and Rick Stanley - performing both 
individually and together their Natural Tendency 
hits (to be confirmed).

* Live Local Entertainment - at the July 4 Celebration Picnic.

* Art Walk - July 3 - enjoy the sights, and 
sounds and beautiful art of one of Iowa's tourist 
attractions

FOOD

* Great food - Enjoy delicious organic vegetarian 
meals in our new Argiro Student Center dining 
halls or dine in one of Fairfield's many fine 
restaurants.

LODGING

* Student rooms vacated during summer break will 
be available to Invincible America participants 
from July 1 through July 31.

* Faculty and staff of Maharishi University of 
Management and Maharishi School of the Age of 
Enlightenment warmly invite guests and friends to 
stay with them during this important time for the 
nation.

* Sidha residents of Maharishi Vedic City and 
Fairfield are also happy to open their homes for 
guests during this month.

To apply to the Invincible America Assembly please visit:


Any questions about the Invincible America 
Assembly can be sent to de...@mum.edu or call 
641-472-1212, Monday through Saturday, 1:30 to 
3:45 PM. Anyone requesting on-campus housing will 
be contacted directly by the Housing Office.

Questions about on-campus housing can be sent to 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
>
> Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that 
> one lecture in the early '70's?
> 
> Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening 
> kundalini?
> 
> What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 
> 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
>
Maharishi was a life-time celebate...
Kundalini has to do with raising the sexual energy...
Using sexual energy, and certain breath techniques will raise the kundalini...

Maharishi did not speak of these things, because they are related to sexuality, 
which Maharishi was not an expert in these matters, as he had no direct 
experience related to his sexuality.

Kundalini also can be accelerated by being in the Darshan of an enlightened 
master

Many of the nuns and priests, in the Catholic Church, and the monks of 
Buddhism, have repressed their sexual energy, which is why they look so 
dead...they are not ready to be celibate, if it means smashing their sexual 
desires...

Sex is a scary thing for some people, as you need to give up part of the ego, 
and is considered something dirty and evil by these groups, when it is part of 
full human experience...

R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "new7892001"  wrote:
>
> Hi, me know nothing and have no much money.
> Which guru best and can make me enlited
> very quick? how long takes?
> You know? 
> dead ones, no good, right?
> thanks.
> Ps. any you here is enlited? 
> how you did? very hard was or not?
> enlitment good for me? you think i should get?
>
1. If your truly feel you no nothing, then you are already half way there. 
already enlightened...
2. There is no 'Best Guru'...you need to search for a Guru, just like Maharishi 
did, and just like Guru Dev did...the important thing, is to remain in your 
desire, and the 'right' Guru will appear for you.
3. It will take, as long as it takes...everyone is unique.
4. You may learn much from people who have written in the past, on the subject 
of Enlightenmentbut it's better to get a 'Live One'...so you will develop a 
personal relationship, and have your questions and experiences verified.
5. Yes, there are many here who are Enlightened on well on their way.
6. It is not too hard...you make it is hard as you want to...simplicity is the 
way towards your goal.
7. Enlightenment will happen to you either now or later...if you would like to 
speed up your journey then get a teacher...if not don't worry about it...it 
will come to you, either way.
8. Good Luck on your path, Grasshopper...stay away from the turtles.
R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: TM - Great News

[Dick Mays]

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:44:21 -0500
Subject: TM - Great News
From: TM-News 



June 2, 2009 TM.ORG
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The new TM.org website, the national media from 
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with Paul McCartney and friends, and our reduced 
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During these challenging economic times, we will 
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Please let your friends and family know that now 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Summer Assembly

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:36:24 -0500
> From: Dome Announcements 
> 
> Guru Purnima Summer Assembly
> http://invincibleamerica.org/
> . . .
> 
> ENTERTAINMENT AND FUN
> 
> * Maharishi Gandharva VedaSM concerts.

A sattvic treat, as Gandharva Veda pundits 
and musicians who are into Sado-Masochism
beat each other with their...uh...instruments.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'TM in the Peoples Republic of China?'

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know, if anyone practices TM, in the Peoples 
> Republic of China?
> Huge market, I would guess.
> R.G.

In a country with an average yearly salary of
$5000 US per person, I hardly think that some-
thing the TMO considers a bargain at $1500 a
pop constitutes a marketable product.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Duveyoung]

Off,

How's 'bout you tell us, say, five things you like about Jesse most?

Jesse's been used for a lot of mainstream TV news' quotable blurbs.  He has 
that cool talent of nutshelling stuff to bring the issue into focus.  "I could 
waterboard Hannity into praising Obama in five minutes" - like that.

I haven't studied his platform, so I would hesitate to say I'd vote for him as 
president, but I suspect he'd be a real contender if the Dems put him up as a 
candidate.

The thing about Jesse that I don't think anyone really has considered to be a 
big issue but is for me is the guy's sheer "macho clarity" vibe.  In the film 
Predator, there he was with a 200 pound machine gun slung on his shoulder, and 
there just never was any doubt that this actor was born to such a role.  It was 
a perfect casting of the role -- minor that it was in the film.  When Jesse 
said the phrase "world of hurt," it was like Ike imagining the violence of 
D-Day.  He's a man's man, a real world success story in several "one's enough 
to be proud of your life's accomplishments," endeavors. And his charisma is 
thereby validated -- you can hang a lot of hope on this guy and his knees won't 
buckle.

His anti-torture stance, of course, wins me over effortlessly.

His biggest negative is that he's an old white guy, not that there's anything 
wrong with that.

OWG here,

Edg

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
>
> 
> Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
> I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of them
> first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
> I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
> Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung, etc.
> and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what do
> you disagree with?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0
> 
> 
> OffWorld
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
>
> 
> Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
> I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of them
> first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
> I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
> Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung, etc.
> and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what do
> you disagree with?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0
> 
> 
> OffWorld
>
  Watched a lot of those clips previously- interesting to note the reaction of 
the powers behind the scenes when there is an unapproved third party in office.
  

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's handwritten signature

[do.rflex]

This is Maharishi's signature when he was still Bal Brahmachari Mahesh in 1955.

It could probably be copied and saved to FFL's archive by someone who knows how 
to do it.

You can see it on page 42 of Paul Mason's pdf link to sample pages of: 

LIFE & TEACHINGS OF
SWAMI BRAHMANANDA SARASWATI
SHANKARACHARYA OF JYOTIRMATH (1941-1953)   Vol. III
by
PAUL MASON 

Click here:
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/pdf/Guru_Dev_Presented_by_Maharishi_samplepages.pdf

or try,

http://snipurl.com/jcxeo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

[Vaj]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 2:24 AM, emptybill wrote:
And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no  
clue what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never  
discussed them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my  
credentials and authorizations might be. It's just a childish  
uptight game you're playing.



Well gosh Vaj. You mean you're not a nath-guru?

But that can't be true 'cuz your disciple Kaladevi told me she  
received teachings and initiation from you and that you were a real  
nath-acharya. I think you're just being too modest. You really  
don't want to present yourself that way because you would be  
embarrassed by all the accolades.



 I just spoke to Kala. You're lying again Bill.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
I can get the long header, and then pull up the
Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

Sal




Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own  
server

it is hard to tell since most individuals have "leased" IP not static
service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only  
get
the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is  
using the
Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP  
address.


Well, that's what I thought...
but I'm still wondering how
Alex knew it was from Denmark.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Interesting Neuromancer-like twist to Silicon Vally hiring practices

[TurquoiseB]

For those of you who have read science fiction
writer William Gibson's seminal "Neuromancer," 
or any of his other books, one of the trademarks
of his imagined "cyberpunk" future is heavy-
handedness on the part of large corporations to
protect its *real* "intellectual property."

In those books, the thing that corporations are
trying desperately to hold on to are not their
patents, or software source code, but *the actual
programmers* themselves. It is not uncommon in
Gibson's books for a corporation -- faced with a
resignation letter from a valuable programmer
and knowing that he plans to go to work for a
competitor -- to have him killed.

Interestingly, t'would seem that a "kinder and
gentler" version of this has been being practiced
by Google, Apple, and our own  Yahoo. They
seem to have reached secret "between company" 
agreements not to try to steal away the other
companies' employees.

Which *is* "kinder and gentler" than having them
killed, of course, but it also violates anti-trust
laws. Interestingly, if the government stomps on
this "kinder and gentler" arrangement, in time 
Gibson's scenario may play itself out after all.


U.S. Inquiry Into Hiring at High-Tech Companies

By MIGUEL HELFT
Published: June 2, 2009

SAN FRANCISCO — The Justice Department has begun an 
investigation into whether the recruiting practices 
of some of the largest technology companies violated 
antitrust laws, according to two people with knowledge 
of the investigation.

The investigation targets some of Silicon Valley's 
best known companies, including Google, Yahoo, Apple 
and several others, these people said.

The exact focus of the inquiry is unclear, but the 
people familiar with it said Justice Department lawyers 
appeared to be looking into whether the companies 
involved agreed to not actively recruit employees from 
each other.

The Justice Department has issued civil investigative 
demands, or formal requests for documents and information, 
to some of the companies involved, said the people with 
knowledge of the inquiry, who agreed to speak on condition 
of anonymity because the investigation is confidential.

Google, Apple and Yahoo declined to comment. A Justice 
Department spokesman could not be reached for comment.

The inquiry, which was first reported on the Web site of 
the Washington Post late Tuesday, appeared to be in its 
early stages, said the people familiar with it.

The market for technology workers and executives in 
Silicon Valley is very competitive, with employees 
frequently leaving a company to work for a competitor. 
Some companies have even sued rivals who hired employees. 
The investigation confounded some antitrust experts. 
But they said that it would be improper for companies 
to agree not to go after each other's top talent.

Antitrust suits against companies for restraining the 
movement of skilled employees are by no means 
unprecedented.

In 2001, for example, in a federal appeals court decision 
written by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the Supreme Court 
nominee, the court upheld a complaint by a group of oil 
geologists and petroleum engineers who sued Exxon and 
other oil companies for colluding in hiring decisions 
and thus suppressed wages.

"If there is a naked agreement by companies in an industry 
not to hire each others' employees or an agreement to fix 
wages, that would be an antitrust violation," said Herbert 
Hovenkamp, an antitrust expert at the University of Iowa 
College of Law.

The investigation is the latest aimed at Google and other 
technology companies to have surfaced in recent weeks and 
suggested that the Obama administration was taking a more 
aggressive stance toward antitrust enforcement.

Earlier this year, the Justice Department opened an 
inquiry into a settlement of a class action lawsuit 
between Google and publishers and authors. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Nelson wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  
 wrote:



Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of  
them

first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung,  
etc.
and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what  
do

you disagree with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0


OffWorld

 Watched a lot of those clips previously- interesting to note the  
reaction of the powers behind the scenes when there is an unapproved  
third party in office.


"Unapproved" by whom?  This is a democracy,
nobody needs the pope's or anyone else's blessing
to run as a member of any party, or no party.
You do realize that?

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Vaj]

On Jun 2, 2009, at 10:02 PM, off_world_beings wrote:


Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of  
them first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,  
Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung,  
etc. and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and  
what do you disagree with?


Off-the Body-World:

Does this mean you're taking up professional wresting? Heck I'd PAY  
money to some skinny little vata being thrown around the ring! Will  
you combine yogic flying with your routine? That would be SO cool!


:-)))

[FairfieldLife] Waking Kundalini

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "BillyG."  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue 
> > other than that one lecture in the early '70's?
> >
> > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness 
> > without awakening kundalini?
> >
> > What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? 
> > Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
> 
> Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, 
> someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful 
> energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi 
> said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry 
> about it, it comes and it goes...

Yet more TM ignorance parading as knowledge.

Clearly the reason Maharishi never spoke of
waking kundalini is that he had no earthly
idea how to do it, or how to do it properly.

Having studied in more rigorous spiritual
traditions, I pass along the following infor-
mation to seekers here, to supplement the
rudimentary and insufficient "knowledge" you
got from Maharishi.

The problem is not with "waking kundalini,"
but with HOW you wake it. Think of kundalini
as you would a supermodel you were dating.
Sure, she's hot, and sure, the sex is great,
and being seen with her is even better. 
But before that first morning cup of coffee,
Boy! is she a grouch. Like Judy Stein on meth.

So it is with kundalini. Like supermodels,
kundalini thrives on coffee. *Good* coffee...
none of that drip coffee or...perish the
thought...that freeze-dried instant crap.
No, kundalini wakens best to double shots of 
golden-roasted Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee
beans freshly ground to espresso consistency,
and then carefully brewed using a machine 
that produces sufficient pressure to *ease*
the soma out of the freshly-ground beans and
into your cup. Top with steamed milk straight
from the holiest of cows and some pure white
Maharishi-brand sugar, and kundalini is happy
as Rama gettin' some from Sita after a long,
forced separation.

This is the esoteric secret of waking kundalini
that lesser traditions do not teach you. The
secret of successfully waking your kundalini
is to -- when you first notice the stirrings
of something that feels a little like a super-
model gently caressing your shushumna in her
sleep, nearing waking -- run don't walk to your
espresso machine and brew her up something to
waken properly TO.

If you do, then -- just like the supermodels --
kundalini will waken in a good mood, smile at
you lovingly as you place the steaming cuppa
soma in front of her, take a sip, and then
gently continue on her way up your shushmna,
arriving at the crown chakra in a good mood,
and enabling a day full of enlightenment and
celestial experiences. 

Don't do this -- ignore the advice of older,
wiser spiritual traditions and just plunge 
into your day's activities without first 
taking proper care of your kundalini bitch --
and you risk the same sort of spiritual and
physical disaster that you would risk by 
offering to take Gisele Bündchen to dinner 
at Burger King.

Kundalini. Waking it is like dealing with a
supermodel. Wake the supermodel with roses 
and a hot cup of espresso and she's yours for 
another day...or at least part of the day, 
until she runs into someone richer or better
looking or with a better espresso machine. But 
wake her improperly and expect her to be her
best without that first shot of cappucaffeine
to get her going, and she'll yank your nookie
privileges faster than MUM administrators will 
yank your dome badge for admitting to seeing 
a competing saint. 

In short, treat your kundalini well and it will
treat you well. Treat it without proper respect,
or proper caffeine, and it'll treat you like
its bitch instead of pretending to be yours.

[FairfieldLife] Mother Meera in FF June 27 & 28

[dhamiltony2k5]

Fairfield Details for Mother Meera:



http://mothermeera-fairfield.com/default.jsp






>
> Om, these saints they help with the subtle structures of the energy system 
> within the human physiology.  Subtle energy structures of the body-mind 
> complex where house the soul as consciousness.Is that simple.
> 
> They work in their modalities to help people as folks come along with their 
> energy systems to uphold spiritual experience.  They work the spin, 
> florescence and integrity of the subtle system within the physiology of the 
> body and nervous system.  
> 
> As such the saints simply help people with their individual spiritual 
> experience or capacity at whatever level they are at.   The saints come 
> around & make themselves available to help people.  Seems any of the maha 
> saints are about this and earnest in the work to help folks with this.  They 
> can help people with their systems and fix some things when things that may 
> not be working well or are broke.  They can work miracles sometimes with this.
> 
> Is part of their work as mission and why they come around to see people.  Is 
> very worthwhile just getting to sit with some of them.  To meditate with them 
> and then also have the time of their attention too in their programs.  Jeez 
> folks, make use of it when it comes around if you can.  
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> -Doug in FF 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > As a meditator I always find it useful going to the saints.  Always 
> > clarifying or helpful to the spiritual experience.   That's what they come 
> > around  for, to help people with their spiritual experience in a human life.
> >
> 
> 
>  
> > Practically, go more than once and you'll get to be less self-conscious or 
> > more innocent in a way to what is going on.  They seem always helpful in 
> > the so many reasons that folks may go see them.  Just go sit down & 
> > meditate.  Git in line.   Sit with it.   You'll proly find you feel better. 
> >  Is that simple.   Is a form of spiritual practice, as in going to the 
> > saints is something you kind of have to elect to do.  Sort of like electing 
> > to sit and meditate.  In practice.
> > 
> > That part is a lot like the difference between a `yes'=meditator, and  
> > non-meditators.  
> > 
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > -Doug in FF
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Waking Kundalini

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  , "BillyG."  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue 
> > > other than that one lecture in the early '70's?
> > >
> > > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > without awakening kundalini?
> > >
> > > What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? 
> > > Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
> > 
> > Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, 
> > someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful 
> > energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi 
> > said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry 
> > about it, it comes and it goes...
> 
> Yet more TM ignorance parading as knowledge.
> 
> Clearly the reason Maharishi never spoke of
> waking kundalini is that he had no earthly
> idea how to do it, or how to do it properly.
> 
> Having studied in more rigorous spiritual
> traditions, I pass along the following infor-
> mation to seekers here, to supplement the
> rudimentary and insufficient "knowledge" you
> got from Maharishi.
> 
> The problem is not with "waking kundalini,"
> but with HOW you wake it. Think of kundalini
> as you would a supermodel you were dating.
> Sure, she's hot, and sure, the sex is great,
> and being seen with her is even better. 
> But before that first morning cup of coffee,
> Boy! is she a grouch. Like Judy Stein on meth.
> 
> So it is with kundalini. Like supermodels,
> kundalini thrives on coffee. *Good* coffee...
> none of that drip coffee or...perish the
> thought...that freeze-dried instant crap.
> No, kundalini wakens best to double shots of 
> golden-roasted Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee
> beans freshly ground to espresso consistency,
> and then carefully brewed using a machine 
> that produces sufficient pressure to *ease*
> the soma out of the freshly-ground beans and
> into your cup. Top with steamed milk straight
> from the holiest of cows and some pure white
> Maharishi-brand sugar, and kundalini is happy
> as Rama gettin' some from Sita after a long,
> forced separation.
> 
> This is the esoteric secret of waking kundalini
> that lesser traditions do not teach you. The
> secret of successfully waking your kundalini
> is to -- when you first notice the stirrings
> of something that feels a little like a super-
> model gently caressing your shushumna in her
> sleep, nearing waking -- run don't walk to your
> espresso machine and brew her up something to
> waken properly TO.
> 
> If you do, then -- just like the supermodels --
> kundalini will waken in a good mood, smile at
> you lovingly as you place the steaming cuppa
> soma in front of her, take a sip, and then
> gently continue on her way up your shushmna,
> arriving at the crown chakra in a good mood,
> and enabling a day full of enlightenment and
> celestial experiences. 
> 
> Don't do this -- ignore the advice of older,
> wiser spiritual traditions and just plunge 
> into your day's activities without first 
> taking proper care of your kundalini bitch --
> and you risk the same sort of spiritual and
> physical disaster that you would risk by 
> offering to take Gisele Bündchen to dinner 
> at Burger King.
> 
> Kundalini. Waking it is like dealing with a
> supermodel. Wake the supermodel with roses 
> and a hot cup of espresso and she's yours for 
> another day...or at least part of the day, 
> until she runs into someone richer or better
> looking or with a better espresso machine. But 
> wake her improperly and expect her to be her
> best without that first shot of cappucaffeine
> to get her going, and she'll yank your nookie
> privileges faster than MUM administrators will 
> yank your dome badge for admitting to seeing 
> a competing saint. 
> 
> In short, treat your kundalini well and it will
> treat you well. Treat it without proper respect,
> or proper caffeine, and it'll treat you like
> its bitch instead of pretending to be yours.

Too bad, I though you really had something thoughtful to say on the subject, I 
respect that you've been around a lot...and not just in bars.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > MMY explained this many times, but he did not
> > use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the
> > 'bubble diagram' metaphor.>
> >
off_world_beings wrote:
> No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest of your 
> post is pure ignorance...
>
Well, I knew this was going to be way over your 
head, so I've uploaded a file for you so you can 
understand what the Marshy was describing with 
the TM 'bubble diagram' and the Kundakini Yoga.

The key word here is 'metaphor' - the 'kundalini' 
diagram, the 'chakras' diagram, the 'sri chakra' 
diagram, and Marshy's 'bubble diagram' are all 
prime examples of metaphors used in yogic theory 
and practice. A diagram is similar to a 'mantra' 
- they are mnemonic devices used for enstasis, 
that is, in the yoga process. 

One of the most famous diagrams was presented by 
the Ramana Marshy entitled 'Seven Diagrams on 
the Theory and Practice of Vedanta'. Sri Ramana 
used the 'Heart-center' as a aid to self 
realization. He used the self-enquiry phrase 
'Who am I' as a mnemonic device. 

Seven Diagrams on the Theory and Practice of Vedanta:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/Seven_Diagrams.pdf

But there is no answer to this question, just as 
there's no actual 'kundalini' serpent winding it's 
way up your physical spinal cord - it's a metaphor, 
not an actual event. These are the 'setups' used 
by yogic teachers to help comprehension. 

So, the Marshy's 'bubble-diagram' and the 
'kundalini' metaphor are just 'setups' for 
initiation - they're not actual events. Obviously 
there are no actual 'bubbles' inside your brain, 
rising to the top of your head. Or, snakes up your 
arse - never mind the bollocks. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Waking Kundalini

[Richard J. Williams]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> > In short, treat your kundalini well and it will
> > treat you well. Treat it without proper respect,
> > or proper caffeine, and it'll treat you like
> > its bitch instead of pretending to be yours.
> >
BillyG wrote:
> Too bad, I though you really had something 
> thoughtful to say on the subject, I respect that 
> you've been around a lot...and not just in bars.  
> :-)
>
Yes, I knew this was going to be way over his head,
Billy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Bhairitu]

Sal Sunshine wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
 Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
 I can get the long header, and then pull up the
 Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
 which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
 I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
 Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

 Sal


>>>
>>> Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own 
>>> server
>>> it is hard to tell since most individuals have "leased" IP not static
>>> service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only get
>>> the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is using 
>>> the
>>> Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP address.
>
> Well, that's what I thought...
> but I'm still wondering how
> Alex knew it was from Denmark.
>
> Sal
>
>
Because it was probably an IP address of a provider in Denmark.  But I 
also think our European members have mentioned that one company there is 
a provider for a lot of Europe so they might be anywhere.  If you trying 
to look up my address you might get a lease IP from Fremont, Berkeley, 
Oakland, etc and I don't live in any of those cities.  Non-static IPs 
are re-assigned from time to time or if your DSL modem or router is 
turned off and on.  Comcast cable used to be static and I think people 
on it for years may still have static IPs.

We'll be moving to IPv6 soon.  The current system, IPv4,  has 4 numbers 
like 192.168.1.1 (reserved for routers) and IPv6 has 6 so the same 
number should be 0.0.192.168.1.1 which would be backward compatible.  
What they wanted to do is give each person a static IP but that would 
make anonymity impossible and should be rejected.  But if you need a 
static IP for dealing with work at home it will be easier to get one.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Waking Kundalini

[fflmod]

> Don't do this -- ignore the advice of older,
> wiser spiritual traditions and just plunge 
> into your day's activities without first 
> taking proper care of your kundalini bitch --
> and you risk the same sort of spiritual and
> physical disaster that you would risk by 
> offering to take Gisele Bündchen to dinner 
> at Burger King.

Gisele is no longer available, as she was recently married to our star 
quarterback. :)
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, BillyG.  wrote:


From: BillyG. 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Waking Kundalini
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:45 PM


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  , "BillyG."  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue 
> > > other than that one lecture in the early '70's?
> > >
> > > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > without awakening kundalini?
> > >
> > > What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? 
> > > Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
> > 
> > Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, 
> > someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful 
> > energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi 
> > said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry 
> > about it, it comes and it goes...
> 
> Yet more TM ignorance parading as knowledge.
> 
> Clearly the reason Maharishi never spoke of
> waking kundalini is that he had no earthly
> idea how to do it, or how to do it properly.
> 
> Having studied in more rigorous spiritual
> traditions, I pass along the following infor-
> mation to seekers here, to supplement the
> rudimentary and insufficient "knowledge" you
> got from Maharishi.
> 
> The problem is not with "waking kundalini,"
> but with HOW you wake it. Think of kundalini
> as you would a supermodel you were dating.
> Sure, she's hot, and sure, the sex is great,
> and being seen with her is even better. 
> But before that first morning cup of coffee,
> Boy! is she a grouch. Like Judy Stein on meth.
> 
> So it is with kundalini. Like supermodels,
> kundalini thrives on coffee. *Good* coffee...
> none of that drip coffee or...perish the
> thought...that freeze-dried instant crap.
> No, kundalini wakens best to double shots of 
> golden-roasted Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee
> beans freshly ground to espresso consistency,
> and then carefully brewed using a machine 
> that produces sufficient pressure to *ease*
> the soma out of the freshly-ground beans and
> into your cup. Top with steamed milk straight
> from the holiest of cows and some pure white
> Maharishi-brand sugar, and kundalini is happy
> as Rama gettin' some from Sita after a long,
> forced separation.
> 
> This is the esoteric secret of waking kundalini
> that lesser traditions do not teach you. The
> secret of successfully waking your kundalini
> is to -- when you first notice the stirrings
> of something that feels a little like a super-
> model gently caressing your shushumna in her
> sleep, nearing waking -- run don't walk to your
> espresso machine and brew her up something to
> waken properly TO.
> 
> If you do, then -- just like the supermodels --
> kundalini will waken in a good mood, smile at
> you lovingly as you place the steaming cuppa
> soma in front of her, take a sip, and then
> gently continue on her way up your shushmna,
> arriving at the crown chakra in a good mood,
> and enabling a day full of enlightenment and
> celestial experiences. 
> 
> Don't do this -- ignore the advice of older,
> wiser spiritual traditions and just plunge 
> into your day's activities without first 
> taking proper care of your kundalini bitch --
> and you risk the same sort of spiritual and
> physical disaster that you would risk by 
> offering to take Gisele Bündchen to dinner 
> at Burger King.
> 
> Kundalini. Waking it is like dealing with a
> supermodel. Wake the supermodel with roses 
> and a hot cup of espresso and she's yours for 
> another day...or at least part of the day, 
> until she runs into someone richer or better
> looking or with a better espresso machine. But 
> wake her improperly and expect her to be her
> best without that first shot of cappucaffeine
> to get her going, and she'll yank your nookie
> privileges faster than MUM administrators will 
> yank your dome badge for admitting to seeing 
> a competing saint. 
> 
> In short, treat your kundalini well and it will
> treat you well. Treat it without proper respect,
> or proper caffeine, and it'll treat you like
> its bitch instead of pretending to be yours.

Too bad, I though you really had something thoughtful to say on the subject, I 
respect that you've been around a lot...and not just in bars.  :-)



-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
>
> Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that 
> one lecture in the early '70's?
> 
> Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening 
> kundalini?

What an utterly boring field of knowledge, or should I say "knowledge"
He said many times that detailed knowledge about Kundalini could ruin the 
innoscence. Would you put your future at risk ? 

It's a natural process that unfolds itself by itself. 

All Sidhas experience growth of energy on all levels, Kundalini is but one of 
those areas that sees dramatic changes. 
>From what confused lineage did you hear that the rise of Kundalini is the most 
>important ? Some deranged Buddhists perhaps, or some confused "New Agers" ? 

TMSP enlivenes Kundalini probably more than any other programme. But 
intellectual knowledge about the rise of this force is unnesessary and 
sometimes dangerous.

Are you a Sidha ? If not, please seek a tradition other than that of Maharishi 
if you want intellectual explanation to rather mundane and completely natural 
happenings within the body.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo posting delays

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley  
wrote:
>
> Looks like Yahoo is in a pissy mood again. For example, 
> Offie's latest post took 7 hours and 20 minutes to show up.

With Off, we could actually consider that a "feature,"
not a bug.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Summer Assembly

[pranamoocher]

How much more of this droning, repetitive routine described above could
grown adults reasonably be expected to tolerate?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
> >
> > Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:36:24 -0500
> > From: Dome Announcements owner-dome-l@
> >
> > Guru Purnima Summer Assembly
> > http://invincibleamerica.org/
> > . . .
> >
> > ENTERTAINMENT AND FUN
> >
> > * Maharishi Gandharva VedaSM concerts.
>
> A sattvic treat, as Gandharva Veda pundits
> and musicians who are into Sado-Masochism
> beat each other with their...uh...instruments.
>

[FairfieldLife] Beautiful Women Who Defy Age

[TurquoiseB]

Since the subject has come up lately of older
women who age gracefully and retain their
beauty long past when they are "supposed to"
by many people's standards, as opposed to
those who...uh...don't, I thought I'd post a
link to an interesting HuffPost pictorial:

http://tinyurl.com/njmbgh 

and add a few more of my own. This is just
to show that those who might characterize
me as lusting after *only* younger women
are barking up the wrong tree. Helen Mirren,
at the link above, is one of my favorite women
in the whole world. I would lust after her rather
than some 20-year-old any day.

But if you *really* want to see the magic of
"beautiful older women who never seem to
look old," you kinda have to go to France.
For example, Isabelle Adjani, age 53, in a
photo taken this year:

  [http://www.sumitomocorp.co.jp/english/news/img/IsabelleAdjani.jpg]

Or Isabelle Huppert, 55, President of this year's
Cannes Film Festival:

  

Or my favorite, Natalie Baye, age 62:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Vaj]

On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
 wrote:

>
> BillyG wrote:
> > Does TM awaken kundalini?
> >
> Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the
> fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini
> through the chakras.
>
> MMY explained this many times, but he did not
> use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the
> 'bubble diagram' metaphor.>

No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest of your post is pure  
ignorance. Stop postng ignorance about Kundalini and TM. The bubble  
diagram DOES NOT represent kundalini in any way.
Maharishi said kundalini rises and falls due to physical contact  
with the Absolute. Pay no attention to it, just enjoy and do not get  
attached to it. It can be part of the process, that is all.



Nice response Off.

IMO it's not whether or not TM awakens kundalini or not, it does and  
can, the question is: does the person know how to awaken it properly  
and/or what to do once shakti starts looking for shiva ;-). The reason  
is simple: She will always take the path of least resistance.  
Unfortunately the path of least resistance is rarely the citrini or  
brahma nadis, it's usually one of the non-culminating nadis it'll head  
up. Oopsy daisy.


ATR questionnaires on the Switzerland courses asked whether or not one  
had any experience of an energy going up the spine. It was considered  
a sign for CC.


Too bad MMY didn't know how to give shaktipat. He could've helped a  
lot of people. But I think it's clear now, after his death that he was  
a follower of the sacrifice (the yagya) and Jaimini, for it's the  
lifelong adherence to karmic performances leads one to swarga, heaven.  
There's dharma-jijnasa and brahma-jijnasa. Ask yourself this question,  
what was announced on MMY's death?


Interesting solution for the busy CEO, huh?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hugs: The Amma Effect?

[pranamoocher]

SWINE FLU. Hugging is so 60's.

People are re-thinking physical contact, with many opting for the closed
fist handshake vs. the open one.
At a recent international convention at Vegas, the "hood" handshake was
much preferred and required less hand washing throughout the day.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> The Amma Effect?
>
> Hugs
>
> 
> Given the unhealthy phobia about physical contact in this country, in
> addition to litigious paranoia about sexual harassment or improper
> touching, I was really heartened to read this account of a new trend
> among teenagers in high school of giving hugs on greeting: male-
> female, female-female, even male-male (given sanction by recent
> 'Bromance' movies). Some prune faced administrators have banned it,
> but I think it reflects that kids are more inclined to nuture each
> other, perhaps as an antidote to comparative aridity of a world of
> Facebook 'friends.' (By the way, I wrote this brief post on reading
> the NYTimes article yesterday morning, then set it to be actually
> posted next Monday. Then I see the bloody story featured on the NBC
> Evening News yesterday evening, interviews with experts and all that,
> and so I guess I have to stay with the news cycle and post while its
> fresh!).
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> 
> >>> Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
> >>> I can get the long header, and then pull up the
> >>> Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
> >>> which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
> >>> I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
> >>> Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.
> >>>
> >>> Sal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own  
> >> server
> >> it is hard to tell since most individuals have "leased" IP not static
> >> service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only  
> >> get
> >> the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is  
> >> using the
> >> Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP  
> >> address.
> 
> Well, that's what I thought...
> but I'm still wondering how
> Alex knew it was from Denmark.
> 
> Sal
>

>From the header of the original post:

X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 213.173.236.66

nslookup 213.173.236.66
Canonical name: ltksmtp10.ltk.dk

.dk is the country code for Denmark.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'TM in the Peoples Republic of China?'

[Mike Dixon]

You haven't heard of Chinese Checkers?

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, TurquoiseB  wrote:


From: TurquoiseB 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'TM in the Peoples Republic of China?'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:32 AM








--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Robert  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know, if anyone practices TM, in the Peoples 
> Republic of China?
> Huge market, I would guess.
> R.G.

In a country with an average yearly salary of
$5000 US per person, I hardly think that some-
thing the TMO considers a bargain at $1500 a
pop constitutes a marketable product. :-)

















  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: TM - Great News

[shempmcgurk]

Hm.

Tripled at $1,500.  That's $4,500 compared to $2,500 before the reduction.

Learning TM is very elastic economically speaking.  If you cut it down to, say, 
$250 to learn not only will it increase revenue exponentially but think of all 
the good vibes that will be generated with so many more meditators.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:44:21 -0500
> Subject: TM - Great News
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> 
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[FairfieldLife] Secret UFO films released

[claudiouk]

see http://uk.yahoo.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Bhairitu]

Vaj wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > BillyG wrote:
>> > > Does TM awaken kundalini?
>> > >
>> > Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the
>> > fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini
>> > through the chakras.
>> >
>> > MMY explained this many times, but he did not
>> > use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the
>> > 'bubble diagram' metaphor.>
>>
>> No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest of your post is pure 
>> ignorance. Stop postng ignorance about Kundalini and TM. The bubble 
>> diagram DOES NOT represent kundalini in any way.
>> Maharishi said kundalini rises and falls due to physical contact with 
>> the Absolute. Pay no attention to it, just enjoy and do not get 
>> attached to it. It can be part of the process, that is all.
>>
> Nice response Off.
>
> IMO it's not whether or not TM awakens kundalini or not, it does and 
> can, the question is: does the person know how to awaken it properly 
> and/or what to do once shakti starts looking for shiva ;-). The reason 
> is simple: She will always take the path of least resistance. 
> Unfortunately the path of least resistance is rarely the citrini or 
> brahma nadis, it's usually one of the non-culminating nadis it'll head 
> up. Oopsy daisy.
>
> ATR questionnaires on the Switzerland courses asked whether or not one 
> had any experience of an energy going up the spine. It was considered 
> a sign for CC.
>
> Too bad MMY didn't know how to give shaktipat. He could've helped a 
> lot of people. But I think it's clear now, after his death that he was 
> a follower of the sacrifice (the yagya) and Jaimini, for it's the 
> lifelong adherence to karmic performances leads one to swarga, heaven. 
> There's dharma-jijnasa and brahma-jijnasa. Ask yourself this question, 
> what was announced on MMY's death?
>
> Interesting solution for the busy CEO, huh?

It is claimed that MMY gave shaktipat when he first started out.  I've 
said many times that traditionally the guru has to wait until the 
disciple's shakti "battery" is charged up enough to give shaktipat.   
You need "excess" shakti to give it.  IOW, I wonder if some of these 
teachers that so freely teach it to about anyone (for a few thou) wind 
up with students who deplete their shakti quickly.   Now if MMY would 
have waited for that there would have probably been about 50-100 TM 
teachers at most (7 though would have done). ;-)

I would say the TM does awaken shakti but slowly.  I think I've heard 
comments on that.  I can't say from experience because the first time I 
ever tried meditation, out of a book, and a good 3 years before I 
learned TM, kundalini rose.  And though it was a good experience coming 
down from it was not.  Why that happened I don't know.  Theoretically I 
should have experienced a little buzz or next to nothing at all.

[FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Summer Assembly

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:36:24 -0500
> From: Dome Announcements 
> 
> Guru Purnima Summer Assembly
> http://invincibleamerica.org/
> 
> * Guru Purnima - On July 7 celebrate with our 
> world family the most auspicious day of the year 
> when we honor the greatness of the Holy Tradition.
> 
> * Maharishi - float in the bliss of Maharishi's 
> Pure Knowledge each evening with a selection of 
> the most inspiring and historic lectures from his 
> 50 years of teaching, and enjoy each morning 
> program as Maharishi comments on the Invincible 
> America participants #1 experiences.
> 
> * Group Program - Do your program with the 
> largest coherence-creating group in the western 
> hemisphere - 2,000 Yogic Flyers altogether, 
> including nearly 1,000 Maharishi VedicSM Pandits, 
> members of the PurushaSM Program, and Mother 
> DivineSM Program.
> 
> * Vedic Performances - sit in the presence of our 
> Maharishi Vedic Pandits and experience the 
> thrilling performance of Rudrabhishek Maha Yagya.
> 
> * Special TM-Sidhi® Checking Meeting - with the 
> TM-Sidhi Program Administrators of North America 
> Drs. Doug and Linda Birx. Personal consultations 
> will also be possible.
> 
> * Create coherence for the nation - help keep our Super-Radiance numbers
> high while the Maharishi School of the Age of EnlightenmentSM and Maharishi
> University of ManagementSM students are on vacation.
> 
> GUEST SPEAKERS
> 
> * Raja John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America - 
> on the success of the David Lynch Foundation and 
> the rapid expansion of our Movement in North 
> America.
> 
> * Prime Minister, Dr. Bevan Morris - will present 
> the latest news and inspiration from around the 
> world and will answer questions from Assembly 
> participants. He will also show beautiful slides 
> from his recent two-month stay in India.
> 
> * Father Gabriel Mejia - the Catholic priest who 
> has established schools where thousands of poor 
> Columbian children practice the Transcendental 
> Meditation® and TM-Sidhi programs. Maharishi 
> called him the saint of
> Columbia.
> 
> * Enjoy highlights of the New York
> 
> * City Change Begins Within benefit
> 
> * concert on April 4.
> 
> * Dr. David Lynch, Dr. Bobby Roth, and Dr. Mario 
> Orsatti - will present and reflect on highlights 
> of the New York City Change Begins Within benefit 
> concert on April 4. They will also show video 
> footage of the concert. Dr. Lynch will be 
> connected by conference call.
> 
> * Professor Evan Finkelstein, National Director 
> of Religion and Culture and Professor of 
> Maharishi Vedic ScienceSM at M.U.M. - will give a 
> two-lesson seminar on "Universal Principles of 
> Life" expressed in Maharishi Vedic Science, 
> Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
> 
> 
> OTHER HIGHLIGHTS
> 
> * Governor Refresher (i.e. Recertification) 
> Course  July 6-21 - Attend this precious two-week 
> course and join the growing number of Governors 
> of the Age of Enlightenment actively teaching the 
> Transcendental Meditation program throughout 
> North America. For information and to apply, go 
> to 
> https://invincibleamerica.securesites.com/recertification/
> 
> * Become a Sidha - Complete your TM-Sidhi Program 
> by joining 55 Rising Sidhas for this two-week 
> flying block July 4-18.
> 
> * Vedic Architecture - Tour the sites and hear 
> presentations on new construction of affordable 
> ideally located Vastu housing being built for 
> Invincible America Assembly participants.
> 
> * Maharishi Tower of InvincibilitySM - Help celebrate its completion.
> 
> ENTERTAINMENT AND FUN
> 
> * Maharishi Gandharva VedaSM concerts.
> 
> * Paul Faureso and Rick Stanley - performing both 
> individually and together their Natural Tendency 
> hits (to be confirmed).
> 
> * Live Local Entertainment - at the July 4 Celebration Picnic.
> 
> * Art Walk - July 3 - enjoy the sights, and 
> sounds and beautiful art of one of Iowa's tourist 
> attractions
> 
> FOOD
> 
> * Great food - Enjoy delicious organic vegetarian 
> meals in our new Argiro Student Center dining 
> halls or dine in one of Fairfield's many fine 
> restaurants.
> 
> LODGING
> 
> * Student rooms vacated during summer break will 
> be available to Invincible America participants 
> from July 1 through July 31.
> 
> * Faculty and staff of Maharishi University of 
> Management and Maharishi School of the Age of 
> Enlightenment warmly invite guests and friends to 
> stay with them during this important time for the 
> nation.
> 
> * Sidha residents of Maharishi Vedic City and 
> Fairfield are also happy to open their homes for 
> guests during this month.
> 
> To apply to the Invincible America Assembly please visit:
> 
> 
> Any questions about the Invincible America 
> Assembly can be sent to de...@... or call 
> 641-472-1212, Monday through Saturday, 1:30 to 
> 3:45 PM. Anyone requesting on-campus housing will 
> be contacte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Waking Kundalini

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , TurquoiseB 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , off_world_beings 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> >  > , "BillyG."  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue
> > > other than that one lecture in the early '70's?
> > >
> > > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness
> > > without awakening kundalini?
> > >
> > > What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know?
> > > Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
> >
> > Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out,
> > someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful
> > energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi
> > said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry
> > about it, it comes and it goes...
>
> Yet more TM ignorance parading as knowledge.
>
> Clearly the reason Maharishi never spoke of
> waking kundalini is that he had no earthly
> idea how to do it, or how to do it properly.
>

Most yogic flyers experience it on a regular basis, but maybe you never
experienced, so have no idea what kundalini is.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest 
> > of your post is pure ignorance...
> >
Bhairitu wrote:
> I would say the TM does awaken shakti 
> but slowly...
>
Go get 'em, Tiger!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "BillyG."  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other
than that one lecture in the early '70's?
> >
> > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without
awakening kundalini?
>
> What an utterly boring field of knowledge, or should I say "knowledge"
> He said many times that detailed knowledge about Kundalini could ruin
the innoscence. Would you put your future at risk ?
>
> It's a natural process that unfolds itself by itself.
>
> All Sidhas experience growth of energy on all levels, Kundalini is but
one of those areas that sees dramatic changes.
> From what confused lineage did you hear that the rise of Kundalini is
the most important ? Some deranged Buddhists perhaps, or some confused
"New Agers" ? >>

I know, kundalini is great,  and many yogic flyers experience it, but it
is not a goal to aspire to like these silly tantrists and new agers are
obsessed with.

OffWorld


>
> TMSP enlivenes Kundalini probably more than any other programme. But
intellectual knowledge about the rise of this force is unnesessary and
sometimes dangerous.
>
> Are you a Sidha ? If not, please seek a tradition other than that of
Maharishi if you want intellectual explanation to rather mundane and
completely natural happenings within the body.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Vaj]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

> It is claimed that MMY gave shaktipat when he first started out.  I've
> said many times that traditionally the guru has to wait until the
> disciple's shakti "battery" is charged up enough to give shaktipat.
> You need "excess" shakti to give it.  IOW, I wonder if some of these
> teachers that so freely teach it to about anyone (for a few thou) wind
> up with students who deplete their shakti quickly.   Now if MMY would
> have waited for that there would have probably been about 50-100 TM
> teachers at most (7 though would have done). ;-)

That has been said about Muktananda. Eventually what happened to  
Muktananda was he was relying on Hindu alchemists who were experts in  
preparing alchemical mercury and various Ayurvedic products to keep  
his shakti "up". Eventually he started doing vajroli mudra on young  
women. When the coroner came into his Catskills ashram they found  
gynecological stirrups

> I would say the TM does awaken shakti but slowly.  I think I've heard
> comments on that.  I can't say from experience because the first  
> time I
> ever tried meditation, out of a book, and a good 3 years before I
> learned TM, kundalini rose.  And though it was a good experience  
> coming
> down from it was not.  Why that happened I don't know.   
> Theoretically I
> should have experienced a little buzz or next to nothing at all.


Well of course if we can believe traditional Hindu lore, if it was  
awake before, it will be awake in future lives. I like to call it  
'refamiliarizing oneself'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful Women Who Defy Age

[Richard J. Williams]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> Since the subject has come up lately of older
> women...
> 
Ah, yes, since you brought up the subject of 
women as sex objects:

"After an explosion of outrage online, Hot Air is 
reporting that the article has been pulled from 
the site with no explanation. Perhaps a site that 
claims it empowers women by letting them pose nude 
should have thought twice about running an article 
that appears to suggest these hot Republicans 
should be used as sexual objects in some sex act 
that sounds forced and violent..."

Read more:

'Playboy On Conservative Women' 
Jezebel, June 1 2009
http://tinyurl.com/kmyzfx

"Have fun in the new job, Mr. Flanders..."

Read more:

'Proof That Playboy Is `Broken''
by Danny Glover
Hot Air, June 3, 2009 
http://tinyurl.com/rxp7zv

'Playboy: In Like Flynt'
Pajamas Media, June 2, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/nruy6l

Google's cache - 'So Right it's Wrong':
http://tinyurl.com/p7c94j

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
> 
> > > > With what seems like quite a large number of these
> > > > circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
> > > > being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
> > > 
> > > Yes. What do you conclude from that?
> > >
> >   Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
> >   Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe
> > could have some yet to be discovered meaning.
> >   I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to
> > find out.
> 
> I don't think it's all BS either. Apparently many of
> them are human-made--creating them has become sort of
> a hobby-cum-cult--but the origin of others is unclear.
> There's a great deal of material on the Web about them;
> it's not as if nobody's done any investigating.
> 
> A lot of it is silly, IMHO, but there's also been some
> pretty hard scientific research that has identified
> very strange features--altered molecular structure in
> the plants, for example (features that are not found
> in circles that are known to be human-made).
> 
> And it seems that they simply don't get made if
> anybody's watching.
> 
> I don't think they're messages from the Space
> Brothers, but I really have no clue whatsoever what/
> who might be creating the ones that don't seem to
> have been made by humans.
> 
> Some of them are amazingly sophisticated 
> mathematically.
> 
> I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
> responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
> them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
> made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
> laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
> short of remarkable.
> 
> It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
> more compelling the more you look into it.
> 
> We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
> you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
> some people very nervous, judging from the near-
> hysterical tone of their skepticism.
>
  They look like artworks or, possibly some message but not to get hysterical 
about as it would seem that if whoever is in command of such technology was mad 
at us, we would be long gone.  N

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[pranamoocher]

Jesse sounds great and his logic is very clear, but that Alex Jones is
annoying as hell with his "Look at me, I got me a raspy-sounding blue
collar vocal cord" voice that is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Clear your DD throat, Jones!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> Off,
>
> How's 'bout you tell us, say, five things you like about Jesse most?
>
> Jesse's been used for a lot of mainstream TV news' quotable blurbs. 
He has that cool talent of nutshelling stuff to bring the issue into
focus.  "I could waterboard Hannity into praising Obama in five minutes"
- like that.
>
> I haven't studied his platform, so I would hesitate to say I'd vote
for him as president, but I suspect he'd be a real contender if the Dems
put him up as a candidate.
>
> The thing about Jesse that I don't think anyone really has considered
to be a big issue but is for me is the guy's sheer "macho clarity" vibe.
In the film Predator, there he was with a 200 pound machine gun slung on
his shoulder, and there just never was any doubt that this actor was
born to such a role.  It was a perfect casting of the role -- minor that
it was in the film.  When Jesse said the phrase "world of hurt," it was
like Ike imagining the violence of D-Day.  He's a man's man, a real
world success story in several "one's enough to be proud of your life's
accomplishments," endeavors. And his charisma is thereby validated --
you can hang a lot of hope on this guy and his knees won't buckle.
>
> His anti-torture stance, of course, wins me over effortlessly.
>
> His biggest negative is that he's an old white guy, not that there's
anything wrong with that.
>
> OWG here,
>
> Edg
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
> > I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of
them
> > first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
> > I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
> > Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung,
etc.
> > and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what
do
> > you disagree with?
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0
> > 
> >
> > OffWorld
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch Television

[nablusoss1008]

http://tinyurl.com/rbtmro

[FairfieldLife] Change Begins Within Benefit Concert Highlights

[nablusoss1008]

http://tinyurl.com/rbtmro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo posting delays

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , TurquoiseB 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Alex Stanley
 wrote:
> >
> > Looks like Yahoo is in a pissy mood again. For example,
> > Offie's latest post took 7 hours and 20 minutes to show up.
>
> With Off, we could actually consider that a "feature,"
> not a bug.  :-)
>

Yes, because if I post late at night, it arrives just in time for you to
open it up and spice up your breakfast with !

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Nelson wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
> >> I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of  
> >> them
> >> first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
> >> I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
> >> Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru, duveyoung,  
> >> etc.
> >> and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and what  
> >> do
> >> you disagree with?
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0
> >> 
> >>
> >> OffWorld
> >>
> >  Watched a lot of those clips previously- interesting to note the  
> > reaction of the powers behind the scenes when there is an unapproved  
> > third party in office.
> 
> "Unapproved" by whom?  This is a democracy,
> nobody needs the pope's or anyone else's blessing
> to run as a member of any party, or no party.
> You do realize that?
> 
> Sal
>
  You recall JFK-- he was unapproved
  I recall talking to Tom Tancredo when he was here and told him to watch his 
back so he didn't end up like JFK.
   He mentioned that problems were already surfacing with security and, that 
was early on.
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>>>snip
> Sex is a scary thing for some people, as you need to give up part of the 
> >>ego, and is considered something dirty and evil by these groups, when it 
> >>is part of full human experience...

The secret of full conscious transcending is mastering the shakti (sex) energy; 
 if it's tied up in passions, conscious and/or subconscious, it cannot reverse 
itself taking the jiva (soul) with it to pure consciousness or the Sahasrara 
Chakra.

Part of the process of TM is un-stressing or untying these knots of attachment 
in the subconscious mind.  "You can't have your cake and eat it too", either 
you live a chaste life dedicated to spiritual unfoldment or a sensual life 
dedicated to sense gratification, but not both! Because one is the polarity of 
the other, like a tug of war one must chose which side one is on (A fork in the 
road Charlie used to talk about).

In the proper context there is nothing wrong with sex, that's where babies come 
from, having which, fulfills God's Divine Plan for the propagation of the race 
leading to spiritual beings, fulfilled and living in the image of God on earth.

The closer this coition is to pure love, the more spiritually uplifting it is, 
the more it tends towards lust, the more it enslaves one to the senses, that's 
it!

[FairfieldLife] Cell tower

[Nelson]

  For Rick,
  Went down w. Depot st. on the way back from lunch and saw a crew unloading 
our new cell phone tower from trucks and a crew to put it up.
  Looks like they must have come to some agreement on it?
  On another angle, are people with cell phones that complain about cell phone 
towers like cigarette smokers complaining about pollution?
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "pranamoocher" 
wrote:
>
> Jesse sounds great and his logic is very clear, but that Alex Jones is
> annoying as hell>

That's what I liked, Jones kept trying to get Ventura in on the
conspiracy stuff, and raking Obama over the coals before he has barely
even got started as President. Ventura stayed out of it and spoke in a
rational and non-partisan way. Jones looked like a nutcase (even though
I agree with some of his theories - I just see them as less dangerous
than he does. There are groups deliberately conspiring to consolidate
power and wealth for themselves, but it will fail, it is weak. )

OffWorld

  with his "Look at me, I got me a raspy-sounding blue
> collar vocal cord" voice that is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
>
> Clear your DD throat, Jones!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Duveyoung  wrote:
> >
> > Off,
> >
> > How's 'bout you tell us, say, five things you like about Jesse most?
> >
> > Jesse's been used for a lot of mainstream TV news' quotable blurbs.
> He has that cool talent of nutshelling stuff to bring the issue into
> focus.  "I could waterboard Hannity into praising Obama in five
minutes"
> - like that.
> >
> > I haven't studied his platform, so I would hesitate to say I'd vote
> for him as president, but I suspect he'd be a real contender if the
Dems
> put him up as a candidate.
> >
> > The thing about Jesse that I don't think anyone really has
considered
> to be a big issue but is for me is the guy's sheer "macho clarity"
vibe.
> In the film Predator, there he was with a 200 pound machine gun slung
on
> his shoulder, and there just never was any doubt that this actor was
> born to such a role.  It was a perfect casting of the role -- minor
that
> it was in the film.  When Jesse said the phrase "world of hurt," it
was
> like Ike imagining the violence of D-Day.  He's a man's man, a real
> world success story in several "one's enough to be proud of your
life's
> accomplishments," endeavors. And his charisma is thereby validated --
> you can hang a lot of hope on this guy and his knees won't buckle.
> >
> > His anti-torture stance, of course, wins me over effortlessly.
> >
> > His biggest negative is that he's an old white guy, not that there's
> anything wrong with that.
> >
> > OWG here,
> >
> > Edg
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , off_world_beings no_reply@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?
> > > I want to hear all your honest opinions, but listen to a couple of
> them
> > > first ( I think there are 5 parts to this interview.)
> > > I REALLY want to hear your opinions - Authfriend, do.reflx, Turq.,
> > > Raunchy, Vaj, Richard, Nabluss, babajii, rick, noozguru,
duveyoung,
> etc.
> > > and all those too many to mention. What do you agree with, and
what
> do
> > > you disagree with?
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPK4h23MXt0

> > >  >
> > >
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesse Ventura is my new hero - what d'you guys think?

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "pranamoocher" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Jesse sounds great and his logic is very clear, but that Alex Jones is
> > annoying as hell>
> 
> That's what I liked, Jones kept trying to get Ventura in on the
> conspiracy stuff, and raking Obama over the coals before he has barely
> even got started as President. Ventura stayed out of it and spoke in a
> rational and non-partisan way. Jones looked like a nutcase (even though
> I agree with some of his theories - I just see them as less dangerous
> than he does. There are groups deliberately conspiring to consolidate
> power and wealth for themselves, but it will fail, it is weak. )
> 
> OffWorld
> 
> snip
  In one of the many clips, he pointed out his opinion of the 9-11 report which 
was interesting in that he seems to be one of the few wall known people who are 
willing to say it is rediculous.

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[FairfieldLife] Gandharva Veda, per a previous Sankaracharya

[at_man_and_brahman]

In the 1965 book Vedic Mathematics by Sankaracharya Swami Sri Bharati Krishna 
Tirthaji, Gandharva Veda is listed repeatedly as one of the four upavedas, 
corresponding to Sama Veda. This is exactly as Maharishi outlined it. The other 
upavedas are Ayurveda, Sthapatya Veda, and Dhanurveda.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
> 
> > Hey Vaj,
> >
> > Your take and mine are obviously different on the whole  
> > shankaracharya/vaishnavite thing and it made me wonder what your  
> > take on Gandharva veda is.  That is to say, in your opinion, was  
> > what MMY was promoting as Gandharva Veda, actually Gandharva Veda  
> > music?
> > Just wondering what you have to say.
> >
> > Anyone else with a comment on this, would also be welcome to see.
> 
> 
> Many of the darshanas and upavedas which are claimed by MMY (and  
> others) to be Vedic are not related to the Vedic tradition. I don't  
> know if Gandharva Veda is one of these or not. It certainly is a very  
> well developed Indian science, their music. I would suspect it has  
> pre-Vedic and more recent elements. Years ago I read Ravi Shankar's  
> book on music, but it's been years.
> 
> I went to a number of Maharishi Gandharva Veda concerts and they were  
> all spectacular music performed by very gifted musicians. It was like  
> listening to cosmic jazz.
> 
> Rick's really in to Indian music, maybe he knows?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
> > responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
> > them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
> > made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
> > laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
> > short of remarkable.
> > 
> > It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
> > more compelling the more you look into it.
> > 
> > We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
> > you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
> > some people very nervous, judging from the near-
> > hysterical tone of their skepticism.
> >
>   They look like artworks or, possibly some message but
> not to get hysterical about as it would seem that if
> whoever is in command of such technology was mad at us,
> we would be long gone.

Heh. I don't think that's what scares them. It's
the idea that some of the circles may not have a
mundane explanation they find terrifying.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
>
> Fairfield Life Post Counter
> ===
> Start Date (UTC): Sat May 30 00:00:00 2009
> End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 06 00:00:00 2009
> 455 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jun 03 21:54:08 2009
> 
> 44 Robert 
> 43 authfriend 
> 37 "Richard J. Williams" 
> 36 Vaj 
> 31 TurquoiseB 

I've noticed this evening that posts are hitting the archives immediately but 
are still being delayed in email. That means there may still be posts en route 
in email that were posted before tonight's post count but are not reflected in 
it. Tomorrow morning, I'll manually run the post count script to give a better 
idea of what the current count really is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Evidence of Kali Yuga?

[shukra69]

What could be a surer sign of a rising Age of Enlightenment than the youth 
rejecting the scapegoating of a minority and any need to feel morally superior 
at the expense of anyone else. This is the result of the rising coherence in 
national consciousness that these youth are looking beyond any religious dogma 
in their respect and acceptance of differences. They are seeing the Unity in 
the face of all apparent diversity, honoring the emotional lives of fellow 
citizens and their choice to live honestly and are saying break from the 
negativity of the past and no rejection of anyone.
 No wonder that it is Iowa, with the greatest number of Maharishi Vedic Pundits 
doing their TM and TM-Sidhis programs and their performances in perfect vaastu 
with the synergistic effect of the group practice of citizen Sidhas and 
Purusha/Mother Divine that the State government took the lead in this respect 
by instituting Gay marriage.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> To All
> 
> Read and weep.  See details below:
> 
> LOS ANGELES – An openly gay teen was voted prom queen at Los Angeles' Fairfax 
> High School in a campaign that began as a stunt but ended up spurring 
> discussion on the campus about gender roles and teen popularity. Sergio 
> Garcia, 18, was crowned queen Saturday night at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel.
> 
> "I feel invincible," Garcia said in his tiara and charcoal-gray tuxedo.
> 
> A few days earlier, he gave a speech that won over some cynics and led to an 
> ovation and his unlikely victory.
> 
> "At one time, prom may have been a big popularity contest where the 
> best-looking guy or girl were crowned king and queen. Things have changed and 
> it's no longer just about who has the most friends or who wears the coolest 
> clothes," Garcia told a gymnasium full of seniors. "I'm not your typical prom 
> queen candidate. There's more to me than meets the eye."
> 
> Garcia assured the crowd he wouldn't wear a dress on prom night.
> 
> "I will be wearing a suit," he said. "But don't be fooled, deep down I am a 
> queen."
> 
> The school, which sits at the end of the rows of chic shops on Melrose Avenue 
> and was once attended by members of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, has long been 
> a haven for students who would be considered outcasts at many schools.
> 
> Garcia said he saw fliers advertising the prom and the election, and they 
> didn't specify that the queen must be a girl. He thought the role would suit 
> him better than prom king.
> 
> "I don't wish to be a girl," he told the Los Angeles Times. said. "I just 
> wish to be myself."
> 
> Senior class president Vanessa Lo said she and many other students were 
> initially against the idea but were won over by Garcia's speech and became 
> convinced he wasn't just an attention-seeking clown.
> 
> "It just goes to show how open-minded our class is," Lo said.
> 
> Seventeen-year-old Unique Payne called the speech "great" and said she voted 
> for Garcia "because I support the gay community."
> 
> Other students weren't as happy, and suggested many voted for Garcia just to 
> see the spectacle of two boys dancing together at the prom.
> 
> "I'm not really happy about that," said 17-year-old Juan Espinoza. "He 
> should've run for prom king."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > > I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
> > > responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
> > > them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
> > > made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
> > > laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
> > > short of remarkable.
> > > 
> > > It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
> > > more compelling the more you look into it.
> > > 
> > > We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
> > > you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
> > > some people very nervous, judging from the near-
> > > hysterical tone of their skepticism.
> > >
> >   They look like artworks or, possibly some message but
> > not to get hysterical about as it would seem that if
> > whoever is in command of such technology was mad at us,
> > we would be long gone.
> 
> Heh. I don't think that's what scares them. It's
> the idea that some of the circles may not have a
> mundane explanation they find terrifying.
>
  That must be right.
  We don't have many such things here- is this some sort of discrimination and, 
who do we complain to.
   In Iowa here, we have farmers spreading manure on fields but they have never 
been known to achieve such geometric precision in design and, more likely, they 
would be called crap circles I expect.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Bhairitu]

Vaj wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>   
>> It is claimed that MMY gave shaktipat when he first started out.  I've
>> said many times that traditionally the guru has to wait until the
>> disciple's shakti "battery" is charged up enough to give shaktipat.
>> You need "excess" shakti to give it.  IOW, I wonder if some of these
>> teachers that so freely teach it to about anyone (for a few thou) wind
>> up with students who deplete their shakti quickly.   Now if MMY would
>> have waited for that there would have probably been about 50-100 TM
>> teachers at most (7 though would have done). ;-)
>> 
>
> That has been said about Muktananda. Eventually what happened to  
> Muktananda was he was relying on Hindu alchemists who were experts in  
> preparing alchemical mercury and various Ayurvedic products to keep  
> his shakti "up". Eventually he started doing vajroli mudra on young  
> women. When the coroner came into his Catskills ashram they found  
> gynecological stirrups
>   
Of course the way you keep your shakti up is through meditation.  The 
guru recognizes when there is enough "juice" to "turn  you loose".  And 
then he may limit you to x number of transmissions per day so you don't 
blow your wad. :-)
>   
>> I would say the TM does awaken shakti but slowly.  I think I've heard
>> comments on that.  I can't say from experience because the first  
>> time I
>> ever tried meditation, out of a book, and a good 3 years before I
>> learned TM, kundalini rose.  And though it was a good experience  
>> coming
>> down from it was not.  Why that happened I don't know.   
>> Theoretically I
>> should have experienced a little buzz or next to nothing at all.
>> 
>
>
> Well of course if we can believe traditional Hindu lore, if it was  
> awake before, it will be awake in future lives. I like to call it  
> 'refamiliarizing oneself'.
>   

And that was my guru's explanation.  And I tend to believe it as I was 
certainly drawn to this stuff and had spiritual experiences as a child.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cell tower

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"  wrote:
>
>   For Rick,
>   Went down w. Depot st. on the way back from lunch and saw a crew unloading 
> our new cell phone tower from trucks and a crew to put it up.
>   Looks like they must have come to some agreement on it?
>   On another angle, are people with cell phones that complain about cell 
> phone towers like cigarette smokers complaining about pollution?
>

***

Construction did resume: http://snipurl.com/je108  [fairfieldvoice_com]
 
Whether people who complain about the tower are cell users or not (and I assume 
that most cell users who are wary of the tower are doing some workaround to 
increase the cell antenna's distance from their head), I just don't get the 
concern about the tower (though it might be reasonable to be concerned about 
heavy use of a cellphone held up to the head): The naturally occurring 
radioactive elements in the body emit high-speed electrons (beta decay) 10,000 
times a second, causing much more damage to the cells of the body than any 
non-ionizing radio-wavelength antenna radiation could possibly produce at the 
low levels produced by cell towers located 150+ft up (10 watts per antenna, vs 
1/4w for the individual cellphone). 

http://www.seed.slb.com/v2/FAQView.cfm?ID=894 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gandharva Veda, per a previous Sankaracharya

[Vaj]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:40 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:

> In the 1965 book Vedic Mathematics by Sankaracharya Swami Sri  
> Bharati Krishna Tirthaji, Gandharva Veda is listed repeatedly as one  
> of the four upavedas, corresponding to Sama Veda. This is exactly as  
> Maharishi outlined it. The other upavedas are Ayurveda, Sthapatya  
> Veda, and Dhanurveda.


You do realize that the bulk of Ayur-"veda", most of "sthapatya-veda"  
and all of dhanurveda are pre-vedic adoptions, right? You do also  
realize that a clearly Vaishnavite Shankaracharya, named Krishna,  
possibly could not represent a more biased source against the origin  
of these sciences, right? They said it, so it must be true, is that  
the tack you're taking?

It's sad to say, but this is a pathetic example. Why don't we all do  
Vedic water blessing where we use a dozen or so names of Vishnu to  
bless the water! If that fails, we could always have some surviving  
Knight Templars present the hidden secrets of the Cathars.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[ruthsimplicity]

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > > > We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
> > > > you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
> > > > some people very nervous, judging from the near-
> > > > hysterical tone of their skepticism.


I think this is a serious misreading of what the skeptics think.  Nervous?  
More likely exasperated. But it is interesting if you do in fact think that the 
skeptics are nervous when there is nothing to be nervous about. 

But the art is lovely. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'TM in the Peoples Republic of China?'

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote
> 
> In a country with an average yearly salary of
> $5000 US per person, I hardly think that some-
> thing the TMO considers a bargain at $1500 a
> pop constitutes a marketable product.  :-)

The Turqey is becoming more desperate day by day as he slowly understands that 
TM is creating World Peace. And peace in Schools. Will he stand the Light of 
the Age of Enlightenment ? 
Hardly; he needs to run for cover before the Sun comes up ! 

But he and "Vaj" will keep their pressure up, desperately knowing they are 
running out of time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secret UFO films released

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"  wrote:
>
> see http://uk.yahoo.com/

Wow. I've seen the footage of the broken tether
being swarmed, but I assumed it was either a hoax
or some debris created when the tether broke free.

But this is a clip direct from NASA, and NASA
hasn't offered any explanation for it, which you'd
think they'd do if it was just debris or something
else that was perfectly ordinary.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that 
> > one lecture in the early '70's?
> > 
> > Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening 
> > kundalini?
> 
> What an utterly boring field of knowledge, or should I say "knowledge"
> He said many times that detailed knowledge about Kundalini could ruin the 
> innocence. Would you put your future at risk ? 

Sorry, I never heard him say that.

> It's a natural process that unfolds itself by itself. 

Never heard him say that either.

> All Sidhas experience growth of energy on all levels, Kundalini is but one of 
> those areas that sees dramatic changes. 

Never heard him say that either.

> From what confused lineage did you hear that the rise of Kundalini is the 
> most important ? Some deranged Buddhists perhaps, or some confused "New 
> Agers" ? 

Never said it was the most important, YOU said that. However, I do believe it 
is fundamental to transcending. TM is Yoga, MMY said that!  Study classical 
Yoga and you'll find all the *missing links* of TM theory.

> TMSP enlivens Kundalini probably more than any other programme. But 
> intellectual knowledge about the rise of this force is unnecessary and 
> sometimes dangerous.

Never heard him say that, sounds kind of ridiculous to me and how would you 
know TM enlivens Kundalini *probably more* than any other program?
 
> Are you a Sidha ? If not, please seek a tradition other than that of 
> Maharishi if you want intellectual explanation to rather mundane and 
> completely natural happenings within the body.

(Si',me be a governor)  Are you a Nazi?  

[FairfieldLife] 'Where is my Kundalini?'

[Robert]

The way I experience 'Kundalini'...
I experience through the 'Self'...
When I am energized and clear, then my Kundalini is more...
When I am tired, foggy and confused, not so much Kundalini...
Kundalini is your 'Electro/Magnetic Aura of Light'...
That is the amount of energy of you 'Soul', 
Can flow through you body...

As ones have said, with TM, kundalini rises naturally over time...
Some people who are more sexually oriented, can do tantra...
This can speed up the process, but can also be addictive, 
Sex can be used as an addiction.
Sex can be used to procreate.
Sex can be used to raise the Kundalini...
There are specific techniques, given by Babaji, for this purpose...
These techniques were not taught by Yogananda, because he was celibate.

Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, used many techniques to 'Wake up the Kundalini'
Mostly through sexual activity...
As we know his ashram, did not do too well, as too much 'Screwy Energy'
Was stirred up...

So, one needs to be 'Spiritually Mature' enough, to handle the rapid raising of 
the Kundalini...

Another way to think of Kundalini, is by thinking of it as charisma...
Like Kennedy had a lot of charisma...
Charisma is attractive to both sexes...it is a magnetic force...

Spiritual advancement includes remembering things of the soul...
Like past lives, and that also increases the Kundalini...

Anything that increases awareness, increases Kundalini...
When one has a lot of Kundalini, he can use it to heal others...

Each Chakra, has it's own level of knowledge...

The root chakra, is associated with the earth knowledge, and groundedness...
The sexual chakra, is associated with the 'Magic Child, Creativity, 
Playfulness, and procreation...
The solar plexus, is associated with the will, the outlook on life, and faith...
The heart has to do with feeling truth, and compassion...
The throat has to do with broadcasting truth, and co-creation...
The third eye has to do with spiritual sight, and seeing the truth...
The crown has to do with the knowledge of the eternity of the soul, 

Any stimulation of any chakra, will naturally enliven the rest...
But sometimes ones can become unbalanced if too much attention is placed on any 
one chakra, as they are all important to the Enlightenment Process, from head 
to toe.
>From Earth to Heaven and Back Again

The purpose of Enlightenment is to bring the spirit to flesh, 
To bring the Holy Spirit, down to earth...
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] A Little Curry a day could keep dementia away

[Robert]

Curry a day could keep dementia away
 
Having a curry once or twice a week could stave off Alzheimer's disease, it has 
been claimed. 
 
Curcumin, an ingredient in turmeric, which is used widely in Indian cuisine, is 
believed to prevent changes in the brain by blocking the spread of amyloid 
plaques - toxic protein deposits thought to play a key role in Alzheimer's.

Members of the Royal College of Psychiatrists were told at their annual meeting 
in Liverpool that laboratory and animal studies have already produced strong 
evidence that curry combats dementia.

A clinical trial is now under way in California to test the effects of curcumin 
on a group of Alzheimer's patients.

Indian-born American expert Professor Murali Doraiswamy said: "You can modify a 
mouse so that at about 12 months its brain is riddled with plaques. If you feed 
it a curcumin-rich diet it dissolves these plaques. The same diet prevented 
younger mice from forming new plaques.

"The next step is to test curcumin on human amyloid plaque formation using 
newer brain scans and there are plans for that."

Prof Doraiswarmy said rates of Alzheimer's are known to be low in Asian 
communities with turmeric-rich diets. One study in Singapore showed that 
regular curry eaters were at least half as likely to develop the disease as 
people who avoided curry.

Curries from southern India are richest in the spice, with it mostly found in 
Indian dishes with a "gravy" - not necessarily the hottest ones - including 
chicken and lamb tikkas.

"If you're not a fan of curry you can try putting mustard on your food," said 
Prof Doraiswamy. "I'm not a big fan of supplements in general but if they're 
from a responsible store then that might be another way to go."

He continued: "Studies looking at populations show that people who eat a curry 
meal two or three times a week seem to have a lower risk for dementia.

"Those studies seem to show that you need only consume what is part of the 
normal diet - but the research studies are testing higher doses to see if they 
can maximise the effect. It would be equivalent of going on a curry spree for a 
week."

Curcumin's effects are not well understood but it is believed to reduce 
inflammation - an immune reaction thought to play a key role in Alzheimer's - 
in a number of different ways, he said. It is thought to inhibit an enzyme 
called cox-2 which is also the target of anti-inflammatory drugs.

Prof Doraiswarmy added: "It is considered one of the three or four essential 
spices that are good for longevity. I eat curry at least three or four times a 
week and even when I make western dishes I often use curry spices to flavour 
them."

Meanwhile, an Essex restaurant claims it has created the world's hottest curry.

The Polash Restaurant in Shoebury has made the Polash Meltdown - which measures 
more than 1 million on the Scoville Heat Units scale - to celebrate its 30th 
birthday.

Anyone wishing to try it must first sign a disclaimer.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
>
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > > > > We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
> > > > > you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
> > > > > some people very nervous, judging from the near-
> > > > > hysterical tone of their skepticism.
> 
> I think this is a serious misreading of what the
> skeptics think.  Nervous?  More likely exasperated.

No, I think "nervous" is the word for it.

> But it is interesting if you do in fact think that
> the skeptics are nervous when there is nothing to be
> nervous about.

Even less to be exasperated about. But they're very
ignorant of what's involved.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gandharva Veda, per a previous Sankaracharya

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:40 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:
> 
> > In the 1965 book Vedic Mathematics by Sankaracharya
> > Swami Sri Bharati Krishna Tirthaji, Gandharva Veda
> > is listed repeatedly as one of the four upavedas,
> > corresponding to Sama Veda. This is exactly as  
> > Maharishi outlined it. The other upavedas are
> > Ayurveda, Sthapatya Veda, and Dhanurveda.
> 
> You do realize that the bulk of Ayur-"veda", most of
> "sthapatya-veda" and all of dhanurveda are pre-vedic
> adoptions, right? You do also realize that a clearly
> Vaishnavite Shankaracharya, named Krishna, possibly
> could not represent a more biased source against the
> origin of these sciences, right? They said it, so it
> must be true, is that the tack you're taking?

Funny, that's what just about everybody seems to say,
not just Tirthaji.

Except you, Vaj, of course. You've got quite a job
ahead of you, setting them all straight.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gandharva Veda, per a previous Sankaracharya

[at_man_and_brahman]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:40 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:
> > 
> > > In the 1965 book Vedic Mathematics by Sankaracharya
> > > Swami Sri Bharati Krishna Tirthaji, Gandharva Veda
> > > is listed repeatedly as one of the four upavedas,
> > > corresponding to Sama Veda. This is exactly as  
> > > Maharishi outlined it. The other upavedas are
> > > Ayurveda, Sthapatya Veda, and Dhanurveda.
> > 
> > You do realize that the bulk of Ayur-"veda", most of
> > "sthapatya-veda" and all of dhanurveda are pre-vedic
> > adoptions, right? You do also realize that a clearly
> > Vaishnavite Shankaracharya, named Krishna, possibly
> > could not represent a more biased source against the
> > origin of these sciences, right? They said it, so it
> > must be true, is that the tack you're taking?
> 
> Funny, that's what just about everybody seems to say,
> not just Tirthaji.
> 
> Except you, Vaj, of course. You've got quite a job
> ahead of you, setting them all straight.
>

Vaj,

Let me see if I have this straight. You are unwilling to trust the authority of 
one of the last century's most knowledgeable Indian scholars (per the whole 
chapter about him in Autobiography of a Yogi) to answer the basic question of 
whether Gandharva Veda has a legitimate relationship to the Vedas, but you are 
willing to trust Rick's opinion, per your question below?

> Rick's really in to Indian music, maybe he knows? 

Perhaps the above-named Sankaracharya, despite his Vaishnavite leanings, was 
also "really in to Indian music," and also, therefore, a worthy source for a 
definitive answer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > snip
> > Sex is a scary thing for some people, as you need to 
> > give up part of the ego, and is considered something 
> > dirty and evil by these groups, when it is part of 
> > full human experience...
> 
> The secret of full conscious transcending is mastering 
> the shakti (sex) energy; if it's tied up in passions, 
> conscious and/or subconscious, it cannot reverse itself 
> taking the jiva (soul) with it to pure consciousness 
> or the Sahasrara Chakra.
> 
> Part of the process of TM is un-stressing or untying 
> these knots of attachment in the subconscious mind.  
> "You can't have your cake and eat it too", either you 
> live a chaste life dedicated to spiritual unfoldment 
> or a sensual life dedicated to sense gratification, 
> but not both! Because one is the polarity of the other, 
> like a tug of war one must chose which side one is on 
> (A fork in the road Charlie used to talk about).
> 
> In the proper context there is nothing wrong with sex, 
> that's where babies come from, having which, fulfills 
> God's Divine Plan for the propagation of the race 
> leading to spiritual beings, fulfilled and living in 
> the image of God on earth.
> 
> The closer this coition is to pure love, the more 
> spiritually uplifting it is, the more it tends towards 
> lust, the more it enslaves one to the senses, that's it!

It never ceases to amaze me that the people
who aren't gettin' any -- and haven't gotten
any for decades -- are the ones who get up on
soap boxes and pontificate about what "real"
sex is, and what "real" love is.

It reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at
my favorite coffee house in Santa Fe. In his
youth he was an auto mechanic, and never tired
of telling people how they could fix their cars
to run better. His advice always seemed to come
down to, "Just tweak the carburator." 

Automobiles haven't had carburators for decades.

Trust no one who talks about sex and isn't having
any. Trust no one who talks about "pure love" and
can point to none in their lives that isn't purely
abstract. 

And that includes scripture. Most of it was written
by men so fearful of women that they retired to
caves and wouldn't allow women into their presence.

Some, like BillyG and jr_esq, consider these guys
in caves "experts," and choose to follow their
advice. They probably spend every weekend search-
ing for the carburator on their cars, too.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > snip
> > > Sex is a scary thing for some people, as you need to 
> > > give up part of the ego, and is considered something 
> > > dirty and evil by these groups, when it is part of 
> > > full human experience...
> > 
> > The secret of full conscious transcending is mastering 
> > the shakti (sex) energy; if it's tied up in passions, 
> > conscious and/or subconscious, it cannot reverse itself 
> > taking the jiva (soul) with it to pure consciousness 
> > or the Sahasrara Chakra.
> > 
> > Part of the process of TM is un-stressing or untying 
> > these knots of attachment in the subconscious mind.  
> > "You can't have your cake and eat it too", either you 
> > live a chaste life dedicated to spiritual unfoldment 
> > or a sensual life dedicated to sense gratification, 
> > but not both! Because one is the polarity of the other, 
> > like a tug of war one must chose which side one is on 
> > (A fork in the road Charlie used to talk about).
> > 
> > In the proper context there is nothing wrong with sex, 
> > that's where babies come from, having which, fulfills 
> > God's Divine Plan for the propagation of the race 
> > leading to spiritual beings, fulfilled and living in 
> > the image of God on earth.
> > 
> > The closer this coition is to pure love, the more 
> > spiritually uplifting it is, the more it tends towards 
> > lust, the more it enslaves one to the senses, that's it!
> 
> It never ceases to amaze me that the people
> who aren't gettin' any -- and haven't gotten
> any for decades -- are the ones who get up on
> soap boxes and pontificate about what "real"
> sex is, and what "real" love is.
> 
> It reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at
> my favorite coffee house in Santa Fe. In his
> youth he was an auto mechanic, and never tired
> of telling people how they could fix their cars
> to run better. His advice always seemed to come
> down to, "Just tweak the carburator." 
> 
> Automobiles haven't had carburators for decades.
> 
> Trust no one who talks about sex and isn't having
> any. Trust no one who talks about "pure love" and
> can point to none in their lives that isn't purely
> abstract. 
> 
> And that includes scripture. Most of it was written
> by men so fearful of women that they retired to
> caves and wouldn't allow women into their presence.
> 
> Some, like BillyG and jr_esq, consider these guys
> in caves "experts," and choose to follow their
> advice. They probably spend every weekend search-
> ing for the carburator on their cars, too.  :-)
>
I would say, that some people, whether men or women, boys or girls, have 
differing sexual desire...
Some have strong desire, others, not so strong...
You can see physically, that some people's souls, have concentrating more on 
sexual experience, just the way they are built...
Some men have enough testosterone, as ten other men...
Some homosexual men, will get even more testosterone, as they are sharing 
testosterone with their partner...
Testosterone is known to increase sexual desire in both males and females...

Some people have souls, that have a different purpose...
If you look at Maharishi's picture, when he was young, you can see, that his 
body type, is more refined, and not so geared to sexuality...
Being very short in stature, he was not made to be a Romeo...
Instead, he concentrated on a different path, then a sexual one...
It really takes no talent to have sex...
Mostly all living creatures have a sexual nature...
It's all part of the physical reality...

Then there's some at the extreme, like Hugh Hefner, whose ego seems to be stuck 
on the girls...
Mick Jagger is another one, who begins to appear ridiculous...
Just my opinion...

The ecstasy of sex, is great for some...the ultimate experience...
Carl Jung, thought it was the experience of the Divine Itself...
Some sex, is not like that, I am sure...

Then again, some people can have the same ecstatic experience in another way...

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with cooperators?
Don't forget to clean the wires and spark plugs, Sparky!
Fuel injectors need to be cleaned, like 'your pipes need cleaning'...
R.G.

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[bob_brigante]

http://judson.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/guest-column-like-water-for-m\
oney/