Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiehDcVZ-vA From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) Dear D - well good to know you are a good dancer, I'm shameless and always eager to learn, a deadly combination. So done, we have a date in Seattle then. That was not my beloved. My love is very impersonal, I was focused on myself the entire time. Yes she is beautiful and she was 40 years old, doesn't use any make up makeup, etc.. when I made that video, I only date beautiful women. We had been separated for over a year and half by then, I basically tricked her into coming so I could shoot that video, I needed some beautiful woman and very few are crazy enough to associate with me :-). From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:43:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) Ravi, I think I'm posting out on this one, but it's worth it. You are such a hoot - I just cannot stop laughing at all this. I must get myself under control, I must, I must. We are quite alike at our depressive dancing best, except that you are, of course, much cuter than I. I think I might be the better dancer though :) I would be honored to dance with you - would need lots of advance notice to find out where the bhajans are playing. TTYL. P.S. - Your beloved is very beautiful. From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) LOL..good one dear Obba, love it..not me but I can definitely imitate any move..:-) But dear D, I love singing and dancing as well, we can hit the dance floor if I visit Seattle and if I'm still single :-) Why watch that loser when there are a couple of mine.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_gppXVbl8 On Nov 30, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi...you've been holding out on us...this is you, isn't it? Are you smokin' more than just cigarettes? What did you say you were full of? I'm not buyin it...you are full of the spirit of, u (my words fail me). I think you just earned a bonus... From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edotU_v1sqo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Bob, What's up with this My Ravi Yogi...LOL.. On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Emily, Excellent, it's my sincere hope that My Ravi Yogi (much more functional then My Yahoo) with take time from his busy schedule, stacking all those books being thrown at him, and provide the much needed input you have requested. After reading your clarification to the *tender* I reread my PQ, and sure enough, found two deviations to the scope---desperate for repair: Should read: 3. Is every thought, that comes into your head, an *idea*? 4. Most of the time typing *is* typing and a cigar *is* a cigar? Bye bye for now, I need to feed the turkeys, Christmas is just around the corner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBNXdGrD5M From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:13:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) Dear Bob, I think that you may have seen my follow up post to Barry's reply and I appreciate you expanding on a scoping process for the aforementioned manual project you've been kicking around. I see immediately that it reflects vast and authentic experience on this speck of dirt we inhabit. This effort could very well require a team of experts and luckily, the pool of candidates on FFL is colossal. My initial thoughts? The title...I'm having an emotion - it's very feminazi, wouldn't you say? Excellent choice for a working draft. I will have to read and reread this scope of work a few more times to fully grasp its contextual genius (as I am a bit slow) and also pull out my atlas and encyclopedia. To support my efforts, I want to enlist the help of my right hand man Ravi and beg him to get me a key points memo. Of course, he may reply with that is the point - there is
[FairfieldLife] OMG: aakaasha in the YS? Part 1
Just for fun, let's try to figger out whether the word aakaasha in the YS of Patañjalirefers to the elemental ether, as, IOO, in the saaMkhya-suutras, or to Brahma(n) as in the BS: aakaashas tallin.gaat (aakaashaH; tat + lin.gaat) [brahma(n) is ] aakaasha from (= because of) that-mark (or: characteristic, attribute, whatever...) Capeller's Sanskrit-English Dictionary: Search Results1liGgan. mark, sign, emblem, badge, characteristic, attribute, sectarian mark; proof, means of proof, evidence (j.); organ of generation, esp. the male organ of iva (r.); idol i.g.; gender (g.), the subtile frame or body (ph.).
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Institute
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[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Yep hijras and India was a hijra nation for a long time following its stupid Gandhian values. I once had a friend whom I blasted as a hijra. I knew he pretends to be a nice guy, he made niceness into a philosophy. He questioned me and my enlightenment, so the existence made me lash out at her wife whom I actually liked a lot. But he kept on smiling throughout. I blasted him later as a hijra, that his brother was more of a man for challenging me and rightly married the girl whom both the brothers loved; that his dharma was to yell at me, get mad at me, protect his wife than practice his stupid nice philosophy. I tell you he never recovered from that. Just to be clear, because of Gandhi's stupid values India became a nation of hijaras, a derogatory term in India meaning weak and unmanly, equivalent to faggot in this country. You were angry with a friend for questioning your enlightenment. So quite inexplicably, through no fault of your own, the existence made you lash out at his wife. Later on you called your friend a hijara to insult him for not being manly enough to defend his wife. Just asking, wouldn't lashing out at him in the first place instead of his wife, have been the manly thing to do? Is it manly to blame existence or your friend for your actions because he was nice? From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 9:13:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Russell Peters? LOL..I love him. Is that the best the closet hiding, mommy hating, girlie man like you could manage? I feel sorry, for picking such an easy target like you and Tom. OK go run back to your closet and play ping pong with your buddy, I'll call you when I'm in the mood to spank again. India's third sex: http://youtu.be/iRUdQEDshFg
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:39:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Yep hijras and India was a hijra nation for a long time following its stupid Gandhian values. I once had a friend whom I blasted as a hijra. I knew he pretends to be a nice guy, he made niceness into a philosophy. He questioned me and my enlightenment, so the existence made me lash out at her wife whom I actually liked a lot. But he kept on smiling throughout. I blasted him later as a hijra, that his brother was more of a man for challenging me and rightly married the girl whom both the brothers loved; that his dharma was to yell at me, get mad at me, protect his wife than practice his stupid nice philosophy. I tell you he never recovered from that. So what do you have against cookies and milk? Nope love cookies and milk. Would you like to volunteer to be the first member of my Citizen exchange program? The plan is simple, this is a program for liberals, who love Gandhi and the non-violent movement, who project their infantile pains into fascination for communism, Mother Teresa, Pacifism , Dalai Lama. You will be given the citizenship of the hijra nation India in exchange for an American loving Indian. What do you say? Free lodging, board, meals in exchange for helping our research which will measure the effects of relocating to hijra nations on liberal beliefs of non-violence, peace, age of enlightenment, age of Pisces. Who knows you might get actually enlightened? What do say dear raunchy? http://youtu.be/obri6-6w238
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
Haha. or this one too. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRaWx4EhZ0o --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: OMG againa theme dancethis is perfectperhaps we can pair this with the following for a full-on theme song... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKyPE8P-d4 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edotU_v1sqo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Bob, What's up with this My Ravi Yogi...LOL.. On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Emily, Excellent, it's my sincere hope that My Ravi Yogi (much more functional then My Yahoo) with take time from his busy schedule, stacking all those books being thrown at him, and provide the much needed input you have requested. After reading your clarification to the *tender* I reread my PQ, and sure enough, found two deviations to the scope---desperate for repair: Should read: 3. Is every thought, that comes into your head, an *idea*? 4. Most of the time typing *is* typing and a cigar *is* a cigar? Bye bye for now, I need to feed the turkeys, Christmas is just around the corner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBNXdGrD5M From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:13:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) Dear Bob, I think that you may have seen my  follow up post to Barry's reply and I appreciate you expanding on a scoping process for the aforementioned manual project you've been kicking around.  I see immediately that it reflects vast and authentic experience on this speck of dirt we inhabit.  This effort could very well require a team of experts and luckily, the pool of candidates on FFL is colossal. My initial thoughts? The title...I'm having an emotion - it's very feminazi, wouldn't you say?  Excellent choice for a working draft. I will have to read and reread this scope of work a few more times to fully grasp its contextual genius (as I am a bit slow) and also pull out my atlas and encyclopedia. To support my efforts, I want to enlist the help of my right hand man Ravi and beg him to get me a key points memo.  Of course, he may reply with that is the point - there is no point. If this is, in fact, the case, I will be grateful for the translation and beg him to let me buy him a pack of smokes and a cup of coffee. Fortunately for all, being as overcommitted as I am to the self-centered idea of claiming my own life, I can only serve in a hit and miss advisory capacity in preparing said manual.  I may be able to provide some objective or subjective perspective on feelings and emotions - real or imagined - doesn't make any difference to me. I feel like I may have some untapped expertise in the touchy feely department.  But, I warn you that crying out loud appears to be my current modus operandi, and it can get very tiresome.  And yes, my motherly instincts do tend to kick in - I want to protect all the puppies - another potential downside to any relevant input.  All in all, all good reasons not to bid. In my role as complacent strategic advisor, you have my approval to proceed. I am late this year in lining my marmot hole with grass, so must scurry amongst the boulders tonight and collect what remains. P.S.  Your topic list is an excellent beginning.  MZ, should he choose to bid, could round it out for you with ease.  Judy could edit it into something ruthlessly coherent and logical.  You have outed me though - I have no contributions for two main reasons: 1) I don't pay full attention to most of KB's posts - probably because my DVD player (the one attached to my TV that broke) is not hooked up. 2)  I'm still far, far too frightened to put my neck out there with what might be interpreted as accountability and would prefer to just hug a tree. From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o58ypeFFWkfeature=related Emily, I'm having an emotion. No, it wasn't KB I heard say that, although you might be forgiven for thinking it was. I heard a young woman say
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
Heh, hot vid's. Ravi Ravideo, Registered Trademark. haha --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: LOL..good one dear Obba, love it..not me but I can definitely imitate any move..:-) But dear D, I love singing and dancing as well, we can hit the dance floor if I visit Seattle and if I'm still single :-) Why watch that loser when there are a couple of mine.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_gppXVbl8 On Nov 30, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ravi...you've been holding out on us...this is you, isn't it? Are you smokin' more than just cigarettes? What did you say you were full of? I'm not buyin it...you are full of the spirit of, u (my words fail me). I think you just earned a bonus... From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edotU_v1sqo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Bob, What's up with this My Ravi Yogi...LOL.. On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Emily, Excellent, it's my sincere hope that My Ravi Yogi (much more functional then My Yahoo) with take time from his busy schedule, stacking all those books being thrown at him, and provide the much needed input you have requested. After reading your clarification to the *tender* I reread my PQ, and sure enough, found two deviations to the scope---desperate for repair: Should read: 3. Is every thought, that comes into your head, an *idea*? 4. Most of the time typing *is* typing and a cigar *is* a cigar? Bye bye for now, I need to feed the turkeys, Christmas is just around the corner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBNXdGrD5M From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:13:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) Dear Bob, I think that you may have seen my follow up post to Barry's reply and I appreciate you expanding on a scoping process for the aforementioned manual project you've been kicking around. I see immediately that it reflects vast and authentic experience on this speck of dirt we inhabit. This effort could very well require a team of experts and luckily, the pool of candidates on FFL is colossal. My initial thoughts? The title...I'm having an emotion - it's very feminazi, wouldn't you say? Excellent choice for a working draft. I will have to read and reread this scope of work a few more times to fully grasp its contextual genius (as I am a bit slow) and also pull out my atlas and encyclopedia. To support my efforts, I want to enlist the help of my right hand man Ravi and beg him to get me a key points memo. Of course, he may reply with that is the point - there is no point. If this is, in fact, the case, I will be grateful for the translation and beg him to let me buy him a pack of smokes and a cup of coffee. Fortunately for all, being as overcommitted as I am to the self-centered idea of claiming my own life, I can only serve in a hit and miss advisory capacity in preparing said manual. I may be able to provide some objective or subjective perspective on feelings and emotions - real or imagined - doesn't make any difference to me. I feel like I may have some untapped expertise in the touchy feely department. But, I warn you that crying out loud appears to be my current modus operandi, and it can get very tiresome. And yes, my motherly instincts do tend to kick in - I want to protect all the puppies - another potential downside to any relevant input. All in all, all good reasons not to bid. In my role as complacent strategic advisor, you have my approval to proceed. I am late this year in lining my marmot hole with grass, so must scurry amongst the boulders tonight and collect what remains. P.S. Your topic list is an excellent beginning. MZ, should he choose to bid, could round it out for you with ease. Judy could edit it into something ruthlessly coherent and logical. You have outed me though - I have no contributions for two main reasons: 1) I don't pay full attention to most of KB's posts - probably because my DVD player (the one attached to my TV that broke) is not hooked up. 2) I'm still far, far too frightened to put my neck out there with what might be interpreted as accountability and would prefer to just hug a tree.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradh...@earthlink.net Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere).
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere). That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UHrXTthV6Ro6xTPVtyRcdN5cyb-pQB4nSAzMubA6SH\ cpjlng8zOhwhAFsNTUwvAMdDhkW31Phe3BPnBiYsre77tRkRGyEBg9/Paths%2C%20Teache\ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. The utter terror he felt was palpable and you could have heard a pin drop as he told his story. And similar to the Gemma story, others on these course were often worried about associating with potentially demonic people, either in a guilt by association/birds of a feather flock together kind of way, or as a form of psychic contagion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
turquoiseb: I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him... You sound really jealous of Robin. Maybe you'd like to be as popular as him, but his posts are a lot more interesting than your cafe raps. Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. -- Eleanor Roosevelt
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. Given how he reacted to my suggestion that he was acting a lot like a closet drag queen trying to seduce straight men with his modern-day adore me and praise me routine here, one suspects that the poor guy was right in keeping it hidden from Robin-ji. It also speaks volumes about Robin himself that the person who claimed to be able to see demons in other people was incapable of detecting something as simple and ordinary in one of their followers as being gay. The utter terror he felt was palpable and you could have heard a pin drop as he told his story. And similar to the Gemma story, others on these course were often worried about associating with potentially demonic people, either in a guilt by association/birds of a feather flock together kind of way, or as a form of psychic contagion. Well, from what I heard that is how the Canadian TM organization reacted to *her* once she went back home and continued holding court there. I heard -- although I can't ever be
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Even for you two nitwits; this is a new low. Why don't we just sum up what you two girlie boys have been up to in this post: 1. Aspiring screenwriter that the Vajette appears to be; I have a picture of myself sitting on a sand dune in the Kingdom's empty quarter, at about the same time Vajette claims this photo was taken; so according to how he thinks pictures are worth a thousand words, we can assume, just over the next sand dune, we'll find T.E. Lawrence, and his Bedouin army, cooling their heels---waiting for me to show up, and show them how to invade Aqaba. Yo Vajette, can I suggest, if you want some pointers on how pictures can support content, mosey on over to Jim's post of images to be included in King Babys *feelings* manual, and see how its done (you may *or may not* sit on the boards of *God knows* how many public companies, but when it comes to convincing narratives; you don't know shit from shinola); your old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen snap seems to be as related to your claims as me on a sand dune must mean I invaded Aqaba with old T.E. in 1917 (no, I didn't also pee on Einsteins pants in 1905). 2. Not to be outdone; the boy, whose balls seem to be missing, decides this is a perfect time to slander someone who does not post on FFL, who no doubt wouldn't have given him the time of day, now or at any time (likely being one of those complicated women who have an opinion or two of their own), and attempts to use the type of information *his homey* regularly uses, that any loser can pick up on the Internet, to once again: I drove Clint to the Merv Griffin show; prove he not the biggest loser to ever grace FFL. Yo KB, we understand how dramatized you were by Rama rejecting you, but there is another interpretation on his suicide, besides your rejection; like I said, no matter how much you act out, I doubt MZ will adopt you. 10. Rama was the last daddy you'll ever have; if MZ wanted children I'm sure he'd aim higher than the leftovers from a guy who offed himself, rather than face prison. http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_5640.jpg BTW, what TTC course were you on, did you chauffeur Clint then as well? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:54:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File : /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere). That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:03 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) I meant that fall of the World Teacher Seminar and RWC had to be a difficult thing to endure, esp. coming after Mahesh's denunciation of him in Iowa court. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) Very much so. It's a pattern I've been literally observing for decades, and it clearly is a samsaric pattern. What's interesting to me is that both G. and RWC became devout Catholics after this. Now there's a past life history that would likely be very interesting. I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. They tangibly felt as if they were made for each other. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. Given how he reacted to my suggestion that he was acting a lot like a closet drag queen trying to seduce straight men with his modern-day adore me and praise me routine here, one suspects that the poor guy was right in keeping it hidden from Robin-ji. It also speaks volumes about Robin himself that the person who claimed to be able to see demons in other people was incapable of detecting something as simple and ordinary in one of their followers as being gay. The utter terror he felt was palpable and you could have heard a pin drop as he told his story. And similar to the Gemma story, others on these course were often worried about associating with potentially demonic people, either in a guilt by association/birds of a feather flock together kind of way, or as a form of psychic contagion. Well, from what I heard that is how the Canadian TM organization reacted to *her* once she went back home and continued holding court there. I heard -- although I can't ever be sure that it was true because she was on one side of Canada and I was on the other -- that she was banned from the local TM center for doing this. And we all know what happened to Robin when he started holding court, don't we? Isn't it fascinating that the first thing people who have been ostracized for being off the program themselves do when they form some kind of sub-cult is to set up a structure in their own organizations that mirrors that behavior? It's almost like the recurring situation of kids abused as children
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From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net snip ...I've been literally observing for decades, and it clearly is a samsaric pattern. ***so the two of you have been stalking MZ for decades, this is getting creepy. turquoiseb wrote: snip of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. ***Finally we understand the green with envy; you're only in CC, and MZ made it to UC. That clears things up.
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Yo King Babykins, Be careful with I was... stories, some on the forum might have actually been in Fiuggi. I don't remember you or Clint, or Einstein for that matter, on that course. I do remember a stunning brunette named Cowhig, although anyone could find all of that spending their whole life looking through the the FFL archives. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:03:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. Given how he reacted to my suggestion that he was acting a lot like a closet drag queen trying to seduce straight men with his modern-day adore me and praise me routine here, one suspects that the poor guy was right in keeping it hidden from Robin-ji. It also speaks volumes about Robin himself that the person who claimed to be able to see demons in other people was incapable of detecting something as simple and ordinary
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for the insight about the Dead. I know Deadheads and your explanation helps me understand them. : ) It is amazing, the people who used to follow the band around the country. Is it, in your opinion, any less remarkable than people following Maharishi around the world, no matter where, no matter what cockamamie reason he gave them for going there? :-) My opinion, based on your description from my description of Deadheads would have to agree with what your above mentions, although I am not sure if the word cockamamie is defined in my answer to yours. Volkswagen vans with flowers may have been the means to travel to both. Free love and sex may have been present at both too. The Deadheads had at least the remote possibility of having a good time and getting laid by followin' the band. Just sayin'. :-) Well, I am sure there are a fair number of people who had the same experiences in a few places. Remarkable to have happened without grandiose marketing. So there must be something to them. : ) It was about the lack of ego onstage. IMHO, of course. Which could make a following of comfort for people. From the first days of their touring to the last, it can be fairly said (even by a closet Deadhead such as myself) that their gigs could be accurately described as Two hours of boring old rock 'n roll punctuated by twenty minutes of the highest musical synthesis you've ever seen onstage. It was about the twenty minutes, man. Twenty minutes on stage. Twenty minutes with your eyes closed. In those moments there were no egos onstage, only a weirdass mindgroup linked via music to a common theme. It was magic. You are either there when magic is performed, or you're not. Trying to recapitulate it later is folly. [As he sips on a drink wearing his psychedelic tie-dye shirt.] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Nice songs. I am working on the Dead's lyrics. I do not know if I can grasp them because the history in my path did not lead me to Dead shows and smoking stuffs, yet I do appreciate them. Nice of you to realize that. :-) There is little on earth as subjective as being a Deadhead, and as frus- trating in trying to convey one's appreciation of them to someone who wasn't there. Appreciating the Grateful Dead is as much of a You really had to have been there thang as you're likely to find on this rock. The second video, may haiku rule with underwater farts for ripples presenting to me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSUGGIQPJU Ripple is a Dead classic, the product of a short period during which lyricist Robert Hunter could seemingly do no wrong. He speaks nostalgically of the writing jag that led up to Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. His songs formed the found- ation of both albums. It speaks to me not because of anything I was smoking then, or now, but because it speaks to me, in a kind of Zen way. The haiku bridge is the pin around which the rest of the song revolves, one of those moments of complete mystery, which no amount of words can either describe or explain. The verses have to do (IMO, of course) with the songwriter (Hunter) realizing the inexpressibility of these moments of mystery, and embracing a willingness to leave them *as* mystery. Perhaps some songs really are better left unsung. It's also a song about humility. If I knew the way, I would take you home. But he doesn't. He's just a seeker, like us. So he contents himself with writing songs about fingers pointing in the general direction of mystery, hoping that others look at what he's pointing towards, rather than focus on either the words, or the singer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: haha Like my shade of grey? Obba, taking the risk of becoming associated with those who post YouTube links without explanation, here's a touch of grey for you. :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmT6udys8Tc Also, as a bonus prize for playing, here's one of the few songs I know of that uses a haiku as its bridge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY If my words did glow with the gold of sunshine And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung, Would you hear my voice come thru the music, Would you hold it near as it were your own? It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken, Perhaps they're better left unsung. I don't know, don't really care Let there be
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:03 AM, turquoiseb wrote: By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) I meant that fall of the World Teacher Seminar and RWC had to be a difficult thing to endure, esp. coming after Mahesh's denunciation of him in Iowa court. Again, I neither know the details of his former career nor care. I find the whole riding on my former teacher's charisma coattails act distasteful, in whatever tradition it appears. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) Very much so. It's a pattern I've been literally observing for decades, and it clearly is a samsaric pattern. What's interesting to me is that both G. and RWC became devout Catholics after this. Now there's a past life history that would likely be very interesting. I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. They tangibly felt as if they were made for each other. I view a lot of it as being overly invested in overwhelming emotion. From the little I've read of RC's raps here, it seems to me that most of them are primarily emotional-plane exper- iences. I don't know about you, but I don't consider any experience that carries large amounts of emotional baggage along with it spiritual. In my experience strong emotions may accompany a deeper, more silent spiritual experience, but they're more of an after-the-fact side effect, not the Real Thing. I tend to view strong, overpowering emotions as almost the unstressing of spiritual experience, not spiritual exper- ience per se. That said, I think Roman Catholicism appeals to people who get off on overwhelming emotions, because that's often all it offers to its followers. They flock to organizations that equate overwhelming emotion with spiritual experience, because they do that themselves. snippus interruptus The only thing that fascinates me about it -- as I've said before -- is how unbelievable it is to me that anyone fell for his act then, or now. Low standards is the only phrase I can come up with to explain it. The only thing I've wondered since then is if RWC and his schtick had some connection to my own karma surrounding the practice of the Chod. I cold dropped an article on Chod here that I felt touched on the deeper underlying issues involved to see if anyone would take a bite, and one of them was actually someone who had had a profound experience in demonic confrontation with Robin: Rory. I must've missed that post. But then, as has been said of me in the past, and for once with some accuracy, I am a spotty reader. :-) The Chod connection is interesting. I've had a few experiences with that practice myself. Suffice it to say that those experiences cause me to laugh out loud at more New Agey concepts of what such things are all about. If you were there, or knew friends who were, what *occasioned* him putting someone in the spotlight in front of a room full of other people and telling everyone that they were possessed by demons? What were the symptoms that he cited? Or was the mere fact that he declared someone possessed considered enough. I guess what I'm wondering is if there was the same trend we have seen here. That is, that those deemed demonic committed the moral sin of not considering him as much of a legend as he considered himself, in his own mind? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: What's interesting to me is that both G. and RWC became devout Catholics after this. Now there's a past life history that would likely be very interesting. I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. They tangibly felt as if they were made for each other. I view a lot of it as being overly invested in overwhelming emotion. From the little I've read of RC's raps here, it seems to me that most of them are primarily emotional-plane exper- iences. I don't know about you, but I don't consider any experience that carries large amounts of emotional baggage along with it spiritual. In my experience strong emotions may accompany a deeper, more silent spiritual experience, but they're more of an after-the-fact side effect, not the Real Thing. I tend to view strong, overpowering emotions as almost the unstressing of spiritual experience, not spiritual exper- ience per se. That said, I think Roman Catholicism appeals to people who get off on overwhelming emotions, because that's often all it offers to its followers. They flock to organizations that equate overwhelming emotion with spiritual experience, because they do that themselves. As a sidebar discussion, springboarding off of what you said above, do you know what the *timeline* was on each of them becoming Catholic? What I'm wondering, to be specific, is whether Gemma went Catholic first, or he did. My bet is that she did. I'm betting this way because as you've been describing Robin's spiritual teacher act, the more it reminds me of Gemma's act in Fiuggi. I'm wondering how much he picked up from her. And thus, wondering that, I'm thinkin' that she may have been the one to first rediscover Catholicism and that he just followed suit again. This is pure speculation on my part. Pretty much in the same ballpark as his or any other posters' specu- lations about us. I'm just throwing out ideas to see how those I am speculating about react to those ideas.
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: If you were there, or knew friends who were, what *occasioned* him putting someone in the spotlight in front of a room full of other people and telling everyone that they were possessed by demons? What were the symptoms that he cited? Or was the mere fact that he declared someone possessed considered enough. That's a question probably best answered by the man himself. A lot of it allegedly hinged on his celestial perception but IMO much of it had do with whether or not the person was liked and capable of reciprocating that affection back to the ego of the interrogator. I use the word interrogator because not only did RWC confront students, but other students confronted each other. Often students would feel the ability to be vulnerable in a more private setting, with someone they knew, than on a stage in front dozens of people with a stranger from Canada. I guess what I'm wondering is if there was the same trend we have seen here. That is, that those deemed demonic committed the moral sin of not considering him as much of a legend as he considered himself, in his own mind? :-) I do believe that is part of the dynamic. I've seen the precise same dynamic occur in neoadvaita and satsang scenes.
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As a sidebar discussion, springboarding off of what you said above, do you know what the *timeline* was on each of them becoming Catholic? I honestly don't know. I haven't talked to G. in a couple of years but by the time I visited RWC in DC, he was already doing the Roman Catholic crossing mudra when he entered the room.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... Vaj's wife: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when he gets like this) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Senate Rejects Udall Amendment
I don't understand why this bill ever made it to the floor of the Senate under Democratic leadership... So, why do you suppose the majority of the U.S. Senate opposed the Udall amendment? raunchydog: Wall Street bankers buy politicians to make laws favoring their enrichment and continued theft our pension funds, homes, jobs, infrastructure, industry, schools and anything made in America... Maybe so, but according to what I've read, it was the Obama administration that told Congress to remove the original language. Go figure. ...according to Senator Carl Levin, it was the Obama administration which told Congress to remove the language in the original bill which exempted American citizens and lawful residents from the detention power. Volokh Conspiracy: http://tinyurl.com/7lr5ln8
[FairfieldLife] Holiday reminder for those who no longer watch television
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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Dear Vaj, I also pooped in my diapersI will try to get some photos for you. Just for the record, I consider my Unity Consciousness to be a perfect hallucination. And the suffering and terror of coming out from under this preternatural illusion has been the theme of a significant number of my posts here at FFL. I was in a state, then, of mystical deceitHad I now in my de-enlightened state of consciousness met myself then (the person in this photo: 1983) I would have done my best to persuade him he was deceived, and that his pursuit of good and evil in human beings was not only doomed to failure; it was itself a terrible misreading of the soul of a human being. And, as it turned out, I discovered over the course of the last 25 years, that problems I had (the motes in my eye) were more serious and multiple than any person who, I subjected to this metaphysical theatre of confrontation. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post-Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have postedcausing some salivating in Amsterdamyou have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. If I were (and I believe I will be in some post-Catholic context) brought before a divine tribunal to answer for my past, I would not spend much time attempting to justify myself; I would rather fall upon the mercy of that court, since I am acutely aware of how blind and reckless I wasalmost unrecognizably so from the moment before I 'slipped into Unity'. When I was in a very different state of consciousness, and when seemingly I was a very different kind of person. (If we are to judge by my behaviour.) I was, before 1976, a person who you could not have imagined acting the part of the enlightened man (that is, in the form in which I didabout which, by the way, I seemed to have no choice: but this choicelessness, it originated in culpable weaknesses and distortions in myself, therefore I am accountable for my actions even in this state of spontaneous right action. But you see, Vaj, I have done my penance these 25 years, and it has been as harrowing and dark and violentagainst myselfas anything that I inflicted on others. Of course there was much to the whole enlightenment adventure which was magical and astonishing and beautiful. But at its core it was corruptbecause I did not know what infirmities in myself were being exploitedto make me go into Unity Consciousnessby the impulses of creative intelligence. So, I do not look back upon my actions at that time, with some sense of having done the will of God. I look back upon myself as having let my original LSD experience (1966) essentially determine the entire arc of my life for the next 20 years. But I have, under the inspiration of Thomas Aquinasand resources made available to me which are part of the self-metapsychotherapy I have imposed upon myselfgone a very long ways to recovering from my romantic affair with the East and with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. What bothers me in the approach you are now applying to our conversation is the implication that I am, both personally and philosophically, in the same existential position that I was when this photo was taken. This is a grave misconstruing of the truth about me and about where things stand in this moment. I would also ask that you respect those persons from my past who have repudiated me and who are now living decent and honourable lives, having realized that they, like me, were deceived about the trust they reposed in the integrity of myself and in the truth of what emerged from this intense metaphysical theatre of good and evil. If I was still passing myself off as enlightened; if I insisted that all I did under enlightenment was valid and true; if I was seeking to influence others so that they would submit to me as their teacher; if I gave the impression that I was proud of what I did under Unity Consciousness; if somehow I resembled in my outlook and actions that person in the photo you have posted, then all that you say about mesince posting thiswould be fair game. And I would certainly have a lot to answer for. As it is, Vaj, I am responsiblein this forum at leastfor what I have posted. If you can find some attempt in all of these posts of mine to justify my actions while I was enlightenedsuch as to frame the context so as to make your present approach applicable to methen I have deceived everyone in writing what I write today. But I argue that I have been consistent in what I have posted, and there is not the slightest insinuation that I am prepared to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: The Chod connection is interesting. I've had a few experiences with that practice myself. Suffice it to say that those experiences cause me to laugh out loud at more New Agey concepts of what such things are all about. Here's the article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/157251 Weird thing: I can easily visualize RWC and G. as Chodpas traipsing around on pilgrimage thru the Himalayas. WTF?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: If you were there, or knew friends who were, what *occasioned* him putting someone in the spotlight in front of a room full of other people and telling everyone that they were possessed by demons? What were the symptoms that he cited? Or was the mere fact that he declared someone possessed considered enough. That's a question probably best answered by the man himself. A lot of it allegedly hinged on his celestial perception but IMO much of it had do with whether or not the person was liked and capable of reciprocating that affection back to the ego of the interrogator. That certainly maps strongly to his behavior here. I use the word interrogator because not only did RWC confront students, but other students confronted each other. Often students would feel the ability to be vulnerable in a more private setting, with someone they knew, than on a stage in front dozens of people with a stranger from Canada. The use of the term interrogator also might just *apply* to someone who (I couldn't help but notice it, even in Message View) has recently gone on record as saying that he believes the Inquisition was a Good Thing. :-) I guess what I'm wondering is if there was the same trend we have seen here. That is, that those deemed demonic committed the moral sin of not considering him as much of a legend as he considered himself, in his own mind? :-) I do believe that is part of the dynamic. I've seen the precise same dynamic occur in neoadvaita and satsang scenes. So have I. That's why I brought it up. That's been the dynamic of FAR too many spiritual scenes I've been privy to. The narcissists (whether they be the primary teacher or one of his/her chosen) scan the audience for anyone with a hint of charisma. At that point, the game becomes either 1) trying to recruit the charismatic students as champions for the narcissist, or 2) starting a campaign to demonize them (in Robin's case, literally) so that if they *couldn't* be recruited as champions and abject followers no one would take them seriously. They'd have been pre-demonized. Good tossing ideas back and forth with you, Vaj. Both of us know what is going to come back at us *because* we're just jackpotting ideas back and forth, two equals chatting as equals on a forum full of equals. But the bottom line is that we're just having a private sidebar conversation on a public forum. I don't think either of us has ever suggested that our view of the people and events we're chatting about is The View or The 'Correct' View. It's just our view. But doncha get the feeling that a few are going to try to pile on and demonize (much as Robin would have done) our chat as something more than just a chat? And that the people doing this are the very ones who have have been having similar sidebar conversations between themselves about US for quite some time now? It's OK when they do it, but not when we do it. For the record, from my point of view Vaj's and my posts today are pure speculation, punctuated by personal exper- iences. In my case, I never knew Robin, nor would have wanted to. I once interacted with his ex, back in Fiuggi, in 1972. All I've been speculating about are the trends I saw in her that I also see in the onscreen personality presented by the (IMO) Personality Disordered RWC here and now on Fairfield Life. Anything I say about him is speculation. I have *no problem* with saying that. Why do I get the feeling that a lot of the pile on folks are going to try to make a case for their opinions of Vaj and I *NOT* being speculation. If they say it, its true, or Truth. This is what they would have you believe. They can claim that shit if they want. I'm happy to just consider what I say what it is -- pure speculation, pure opinion. If they wish to make a case for what they say being more than that, I wish them well with the task. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Vaj's photo of Robin
Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. I found a picture of St. Mary's steeple on Google images. The people face 3rd. The steeple faces the cross street on W. Grimes. It looks like the steeple in Vaj's photo. [http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg] http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kLLXTtJ--Yt3lLj9NZh5Vw1Pbpt-HJeF2ZTRY7VzH_\ v4t-QR0SguuLSxQ7t8xPBI4bEPYjXrGNyULMF0dYE2zixP-rGL8CBF/Paths%2C%20Teache\ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
Correction. The Google photo appears to be the new St. Mary's steeple. Apparently, they built a replica of Old St. Mary's steeple for the new St. Mary's Church. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. I found a picture of St. Mary's steeple on Google images. The people face 3rd. The steeple faces the cross street on W. Grimes. It looks like the steeple in Vaj's photo. [http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg] http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kLLXTtJ--Yt3lLj9NZh5Vw1Pbpt-HJeF2ZTRY7VzH_\ v4t-QR0SguuLSxQ7t8xPBI4bEPYjXrGNyULMF0dYE2zixP-rGL8CBF/Paths%2C%20Teache\ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
For the record, Raunchy, thank you for your fair and balanced report from the Front Lines. It is in accord with your first postings about Robin and the enduring legacy that his teaching had on Fairfield, and on you personally, back in 2008: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 Just for the record, do you make a distinction between the TMO Inquisitors you refer to in your post and Robin's stage act at the time, or not? Seems to me both sets of Inquisitors were cut from the same cloth. And still are. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. I found a picture of St. Mary's steeple on Google images. The people face 3rd. The steeple faces the cross street on W. Grimes. It looks like the steeple in Vaj's photo. [http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg] http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kLLXTtJ--Yt3lLj9NZh5Vw1Pbpt-HJeF2ZTRY7VzH_\ \ v4t-QR0SguuLSxQ7t8xPBI4bEPYjXrGNyULMF0dYE2zixP-rGL8CBF/Paths%2C%20Teache\ \ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On 12/01/2011 04:51 AM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradh...@earthlink.net Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere). The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Dear Vaj,
Just for the record, you have not once indicated in your description of what I
was doing in those seminars that you have any idea of their realityand not one
person who read all of yours posts about what I was up to in those seminars,
would recognizeif they attended one of those seminarstheir own experience. It
is the same regarding RWC as it it regarding MMY: *You know nothing by direct
experience, Vaj*.
You are a very thorough and conscientious archivist. That's all.
What you (and now Barry) are speculating about as to what went down while I was
enlightened, it does not bear upon what really happenednot in the least. When
you talk about your flying experiences ('the touch of grace) it is the same as
when you talk about Robin Carlsen and his World Teacher Seminars. There is a
perfect demonstration of your ignorance about all this. And this saddens me,
Vaj. Had you been inside an initiation room and received your TM mantra, had
you actually met me in the flesh, or attended a real metaphysical theatre of
cosmic drama, well, I would know this.
I simply and categorically insist that, in terms of direct personal knowledge
of meand of direct personal knowledge of TM and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,you are
a pure outsider, Vaj. I like how your mind moves at times in your postswhere
you are just arguing for some esoteric Buddhist truth; but when you play the
Walter Mitty card, you alarm mebecause I say to myself: this intelligent and
well-read and capable person, what, pray tell, is he doing masquerading as a TM
initiator, masquerading as someone who put Robin in his place?
It beats me, Vaj. And yet I intuit if you could get beyond this, you, as a
person, might very well produce some lively and edifying conversation. I look
forward to it.
But you will, I know you will, have some respect for the privacy and honour of
those persons who have formally and even profoundly disassociated themselves
from anything to do with Robin Carlsen.
And did you knowI have mentioned this beforethat I have spent the last 25
years in exile, sequestered from all but one person from my past. And this has
includes my family as well.
Gina Catena over at TM-Free Blog first got me to come out of the closet and
identify myself. I began to post at TM-Free Blogunder maskedzebra. I was outed
by one of the most sophisticated persons at TM-Free Blogso my cover was blown.
Subsequently Gina sent along an e-mail from Rich Archer inviting me to post at
FFL. And I took up this invitation based upon what I discerned to be the good
faith and honesty of Rick himself.
I should say right out that my motivation for posting at TM-Free Blog and now
at FFL is for further clarification of my past, and for strengthening my
understanding of myself. I write, then, at FFL, for purely therapeutic reasons.
And FFL has not disappointed in this regard.
I have been posting ever since. Grateful for the tremendous experience of
arguing with Curtis, and grateful since then for interactions with various
posters here. (FFL has not been the same since Curtis temporarily stopped
posting.) Curtis and I really got into it in those long (and for Barry tedious)
posts. But not once did Curtis go where you have chosen to go. There is a point
of personal honour here, Vaj. And I hope that you will not violate what I
thought was an unspoken code of understanding, in any further conversations we
might have.
People are not just objects you can manipulate at willand these innocent
persons from my past, what gives you the right to judge them, to hold them
accountable for what they did, to make of them fair game for scrutiny and
judgment?
This is appalling. But I understand what desperate straits you have reached in
my determination to get you to confess your Pinocchio-ness. If only we could
get past all this, and then perhaps we might surprise each other.
Alas, I think this is not to be. So, then, in the future, Vaj, I would ask you
to throw everything you can at me, but please, respect the integrity of those
human beings who do not deserve to be the subject of your need to get back at
me for being so uncompromising in my desire to make of you an honest man.
By the way to repeat, Vaj: You don't know the first thing about what the
context was metaphysically inside one of those seminars; and you have not the
least physical or mental notion of what it was like to transcend using
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technique of Transcendental Meditation.
That said, I am sure you are a very interesting human being. Too bad you
couldn't respond to Ted Hughes, to Pascal, to Milosz, to Stevens, to Hopkins,
to Belloc, to Ignatius of Loyola, to Aquinasoops! you *did* respond to himbut
selectively and dogmatically.
Bring on the photos!
When *I* use a word, Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, it means
just what I choose it to meanneither more nor less,
The question is, said Alice, whether you *can* make
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Dear Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:03 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, I also pooped in my diapers—I will try to get some photos for you. That's fine, I have plenty. Just for the record, I consider my Unity Consciousness to be a perfect hallucination. And the suffering and terror of coming out from under this preternatural illusion has been the theme of a significant number of my posts here at FFL. While I understand you believe you were in Unity Consciousness, I hope you understand, that is not my belief, nor is it the belief of anyone else I know. I was in a state, then, of mystical deceit—Had I now in my de- enlightened state of consciousness met myself then (the person in this photo: 1983) I would have done my best to persuade him he was deceived, and that his pursuit of good and evil in human beings was not only doomed to failure; it was itself a terrible misreading of the soul of a human being. And, as it turned out, I discovered over the course of the last 25 years, that problems I had (the motes in my eye) were more serious and multiple than any person who, I subjected to this metaphysical theatre of confrontation. Thanks for sharing that. I'll share your remarks with others who would be healed in hearing that - esp. the one person who came along that night to DC merely because of the sense of woundedness he was still carrying. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post- Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have posted—causing some salivating in Amsterdam—you have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. I don't believe I am implying any such thing. But I do understand you may be extra sensitive on some of these issues. I would expect that you'd at least be in some penitential mode to the point where you were relieved of your own sense of dread. Having said that, at least on the level of content, there are statements you've made and continue to make, that could only be uttered from a TB TM initiator who still was maintaining that true believer stance - at least in their mind, if not in their heart. Given your persistence, I'm almost forced to assume the latter (the heart) as well. If I were (and I believe I will be in some post-Catholic context) brought before a divine tribunal to answer for my past, I would not spend much time attempting to justify myself; I would rather fall upon the mercy of that court, since I am acutely aware of how blind and reckless I was—almost unrecognizably so from the moment before I 'slipped into Unity'. When I was in a very different state of consciousness, and when seemingly I was a very different kind of person. (If we are to judge by my behaviour.) I was, before 1976, a person who you could not have imagined acting the part of the enlightened man (that is, in the form in which I did —about which, by the way, I seemed to have no choice: but this choicelessness, it originated in culpable weaknesses and distortions in myself, therefore I am accountable for my actions even in this state of spontaneous right action. But you see, Vaj, I have done my penance these 25 years, and it has been as harrowing and dark and violent—against myself—as anything that I inflicted on others. Of course there was much to the whole enlightenment adventure which was magical and astonishing and beautiful. But at its core it was corrupt—because I did not know what infirmities in myself were being exploited—to make me go into Unity Consciousness—by the impulses of creative intelligence. So, I do not look back upon my actions at that time, with some sense of having done the will of God. I look back upon myself as having let my original LSD experience (1966) essentially determine the entire arc of my life for the next 20 years. But I have, under the inspiration of Thomas Aquinas—and resources made available to me which are part of the self-metapsychotherapy I have imposed upon myself—gone a very long ways to recovering from my romantic affair with the East and with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. What bothers me in the approach you are now applying to our conversation is the implication that I am, both personally and philosophically, in the same existential position that I was when this photo was taken. I would assume the opposite, for to not move in some direction, any direction, would require you to go against the grain of your own evolution and therefore against grain of the kosmos - or the will of god. It is only the odd
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
In addition to long term stalking, it seems both these ladies are obsessed with MZ's sex life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip snip I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. ***King Baby, I think the readers might want to know if you (and the vajette) were this fascinated with Rama's sex life? From your latest performance, I'm guessing the two of you have never actually been punched, I'm thinking more likely you've been face slapped, more than a few times---by men, since you're the kind of girlie boys women would ignore. In my experience strong emotions. ***I guess you missed Emily link to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKyPE8P-d4 I tend to view strong, overpowering emotions, as almost... unstressing ***spoken like a true artist. ...As a sidebar discussion, springboarding off of what you said above, ***Now Vaj knows how Clint and Einstein must have felt. What I'm wondering, to be specific, is whether Gemma... ***KB, the fact she ignored you, doesn't actually mean she knew who you were. Were you and vajette out playing the day Daddy explained its not manly to talk about a woman behind her back, even if she is way above your station? I'm betting...Robin...reminds me of Gemma...in Fiuggi. ***Must have been quite the crush, who knows---she might have been flattered, until you actually said something. This is pure speculation on my part. Pretty much in the same ballpark as his or any other posters' speculations about us. ***You're not going to start crying again. I'd say the two of you should be ashamed, but of course you'd miss the irony. What I'm really enjoying about your latest alliance KB is imagining where you go from here; back to the Rama forum? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L0eJp7V2Zs Don't be afraid, I won't tell
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:10 PM, maskedzebra wrote: By the way to repeat, Vaj: You don't know the first thing about what the context was metaphysically inside one of those seminars; and you have not the least physical or mental notion of what it was like to transcend using Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technique of Transcendental Meditation. You're starting the lying again Robin. You're wrong once again. Take two Hail Mary's and call me in the morning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Yo Vajette, This is how you write a screenplay. And yes, your wife is a.k.a. KB. From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:40:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... Vaj's wife: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when he gets like this) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: For the record, Raunchy, thank you for your fair and balanced report from the Front Lines. It is in accord with your first postings about Robin and the enduring legacy that his teaching had on Fairfield, and on you personally, back in 2008: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 Just for the record, do you make a distinction between the TMO Inquisitors you refer to in your post and Robin's stage act at the time, or not? Seems to me both sets of Inquisitors were cut from the same cloth. And still are. I don't make the comparison that you do just for the sake of a twofer slam on Robin and the TMO. Robin has already explained his actions and state of mind at the time. I believe he truly regrets any harm he may have caused his followers. I give him credit for digging deep into his soul to examine and admit his mistakes. I'm not entirely sold on his Catholic, Aquinas, Monte Cassino thang, but it's his truth, and I respect him for that, however strange and implausible it may seem. His courage to look inward rather than blame or diminish others is a welcome reminder that one cannot be honest with others unless one is first honest with ones self. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. I found a picture of St. Mary's steeple on Google images. The people face 3rd. The steeple faces the cross street on W. Grimes. It looks like the steeple in Vaj's photo. [http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg] http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kLLXTtJ--Yt3lLj9NZh5Vw1Pbpt-HJeF2ZTRY7VzH_\ \ v4t-QR0SguuLSxQ7t8xPBI4bEPYjXrGNyULMF0dYE2zixP-rGL8CBF/Paths%2C%20Teache\ \ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] The lepers's conversations
This is just hilarious..King Baby and The Liar using that private phone booth conversation that Jim was referring to..with one solid following of their fan SS. Even HH Gandhi Teresa Curtis has stopped posting rather than lick these lepers's wounds. God their wounds are creating a big stench...LOL On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: Yo King Babykins, Be careful with I was... stories, some on the forum might have actually been in Fiuggi. I don't remember you or Clint, or Einstein for that matter, on that course. I do remember a stunning brunette named Cowhig, although anyone could find all of that spending their whole life looking through the the FFL archives. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:03:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Dear Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:03 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, I also pooped in my diapersI will try to get some photos for you. Vaj: That's fine, I have plenty. RESPONSE: post them, Vaj. Just for the record, I consider my Unity Consciousness to be a perfect hallucination. And the suffering and terror of coming out from under this preternatural illusion has been the theme of a significant number of my posts here at FFL. Vaj: While I understand you believe you were in Unity Consciousness, I hope you understand, that is not my belief, nor is it the belief of anyone else I know. RESPONSE: What? I thoughtI am sure you are wrong about this, VajI had convinced everyone at FFL of the truth of my claims to have been in UC. I think you must be mistaken. True, Barry may have his doubts, but most everyone here at FFLunless I am reading them incorrectlyhas made it very clear that my Unity Consciousness was the real deal. Did I think any of them had the faintest doubt about this, I would have stopped posting. This comes as a revelation to me, Vaj. I would ask you to think very carefully before coming out with something as startling and unanticipated as this. I was in a state, then, of mystical deceitHad I now in my de- enlightened state of consciousness met myself then (the person in this photo: 1983) I would have done my best to persuade him he was deceived, and that his pursuit of good and evil in human beings was not only doomed to failure; it was itself a terrible misreading of the soul of a human being. And, as it turned out, I discovered over the course of the last 25 years, that problems I had (the motes in my eye) were more serious and multiple than any person who, I subjected to this metaphysical theatre of confrontation. Vaj: Thanks for sharing that. I'll share your remarks with others who would be healed in hearing that - esp. the one person who came along that night to DC merely because of the sense of woundedness he was still carrying. RESPONSE: Ah, I think you may have touched a nerve here, Vaj. Finally. If you are referring to Gary (and I hardly think it could be anyone else), then, yes, Gary was a faithful and generous person when it came to my seminarsI recall especially meeting with him and Marilynn in a Manhattan hotel after giving a seminar: that was our best contact ever. When I went to extremes and started to turn on those I loved mostand then went over to the Catholic ChurchGary was nonplussed and felt betrayeda very natural and appropriate response. He came to DC to attempt to resolve the issue of this destabilization of his worldbased upon the breakup of the whole Robin Carlsen enterprise. He came armed with my astrology chartas if in reading this to me he could get closure on this whole business by proving that my chart explained me. I resisted (as you know). I wish I could have been as unconfused and coherentin some profound senseas I feel that I am now in comparison to what I was then. And I ask you to pass on my sincere best wishes to Gary and his family. I have nothing but the most positive memories of him and Marilynn. Good people. I know there are others who, as you say are carrying the sense of woundedness. I wounded others; I wounded myself. But it is a very complex story and neither Gary's experience nor mine will be the last word on all this. Yours, maybe. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post- Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have postedcausing some salivating in Amsterdamyou have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. Vaj: I don't believe I am implying any such thing. But I do understand you may be extra sensitive on some of these issues. I would expect that you'd at least be in some penitential mode to the point where you were relieved of your own sense of dread. RESPONSE: Apart from attempting to provide some evidence for your claim to know me, what, pray tell, was the purpose of posting that photo? It seemed harmless enough; but once you started commenting on the psychological state of the persons in the photo, once you began to interact with Barry, once you brought in names of persons who now have nothing to do with me, you were, surely you were, Vaj, linking my recent posts to myself in my past life such as to take something off the sting of my demand that you tell the truth. Now don't try to
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
When someone says someone is lying and is consciously knowing they are lying when accuse that some one of lyingtheir lying about this accusation bearing an inversely proportionate relationship to the degree of truth the other person is utteringthen we are in a real fix. Look, Vajfor Christ sake, why don't you unmask yourself to the extent to which you name who you are: you are outing the names of persons related to my past: what right do you have to do this when you yourself will not reveal your name?anyway, Vaj: in this accusation that I am lying there is not one atom of reality which would suggest you are experiencing that I am lying. No, your accusation that I am lying is bereft of any feeling whatsoever that this is true. In fact in saying what you say here (and ignoring all the rest of that post), you remove yourself altogether from the realm of reality, so as to abstract yourself out of even the experience your conscience might produce in you for lying about my lying. I don't get it, Vaj; I really don't get it. You were kidding about the Hail Mary, right? I only say this, because if you are really reaching out, I think this a good thing. Oh, dear, I just realized something: this was a prescription for ME! Too slow. Now where was I? Ah, yes, I remember now: I have am having the experience, and it's quite delicious in comparison to your own, Vaj, of telling the truthhere and in each post; you, on the other hand are experiencing that classic situation of a human being lying to his own soul. Your soul inspires me to tell you this, Vaj. We'll crack you open yet. I have an extreme advantage over you, Vaj: I seek the truth, even if it might mean my apologizing to you for having got you all wrong, But one thing we know for sure: whether you are actually telling the truth or not about TM, Maharishi, and myself, you are determined that we suspect that you are lying. This is a psychological feat thatI have said this beforehas never been pulled off by a single character in literatureor, even history. An amazing feat. Even God could not do this. But I prefer the Occam's razor approach to all this. Can you blame me, Vaj? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:10 PM, maskedzebra wrote: By the way to repeat, Vaj: You don't know the first thing about what the context was metaphysically inside one of those seminars; and you have not the least physical or mental notion of what it was like to transcend using Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technique of Transcendental Meditation. You're starting the lying again Robin. You're wrong once again. Take two Hail Mary's and call me in the morning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was.... Bob)
Dear raunchy - Yes I called India a Hijra nation in a very derogatory way. I know you naturally have all kinds of idiotic questions about my stories. But I don't make any apologies for my behavior to the retarded, especially the retards who worship the pervert Gandhi and that stupid bitch Teresa. I'm a narcissistic enlightened asshole - get it? Anyway my friend's wife was innocent, very straightforward unlike her husband. And she was the one who innocently believed what her stupid husband had to say and said stupid things to me. So I could only get mad at her because I lived her. Of course I spent a long time at her feet begging for forgiveness for my behavior because I loved her and she took really good care of me post enlightenment. I can't see anyone else bring separate for me. Anyway don't spend too much time on it, it's too much for your Gandhi Teresa fascinated perverted intellect to understand, OK hon? On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:23 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Yep hijras and India was a hijra nation for a long time following its stupid Gandhian values. I once had a friend whom I blasted as a hijra. I knew he pretends to be a nice guy, he made niceness into a philosophy. He questioned me and my enlightenment, so the existence made me lash out at her wife whom I actually liked a lot. But he kept on smiling throughout. I blasted him later as a hijra, that his brother was more of a man for challenging me and rightly married the girl whom both the brothers loved; that his dharma was to yell at me, get mad at me, protect his wife than practice his stupid nice philosophy. I tell you he never recovered from that. Just to be clear, because of Gandhi's stupid values India became a nation of hijaras, a derogatory term in India meaning weak and unmanly, equivalent to faggot in this country. You were angry with a friend for questioning your enlightenment. So quite inexplicably, through no fault of your own, the existence made you lash out at his wife. Later on you called your friend a hijara to insult him for not being manly enough to defend his wife. Just asking, wouldn't lashing out at him in the first place instead of his wife, have been the manly thing to do? Is it manly to blame existence or your friend for your actions because he was nice? From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 9:13:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm having an emotion / the pre-qualification (was Bob) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Russell Peters? LOL..I love him. Is that the best the closet hiding, mommy hating, girlie man like you could manage? I feel sorry, for picking such an easy target like you and Tom. OK go run back to your closet and play ping pong with your buddy, I'll call you when I'm in the mood to spank again. India's third sex: http://youtu.be/iRUdQEDshFg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hey Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:20 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: Ah, I think you may have touched a nerve here, Vaj. Finally. If you are referring to Gary (and I hardly think it could be anyone else), then, yes, Gary was a faithful and generous person when it came to my seminars—I recall especially meeting with him and Marilynn in a Manhattan hotel after giving a seminar: that was our best contact ever. No, it wasn't. If I was I would have given some indication. When I went to extremes and started to turn on those I loved most— and then went over to the Catholic Church—Gary was nonplussed and felt betrayed—a very natural and appropriate response. He came to DC to attempt to resolve the issue of this destabilization of his world—based upon the breakup of the whole Robin Carlsen enterprise. He came armed with my astrology chart—as if in reading this to me he could get closure on this whole business by proving that my chart explained me. I resisted (as you know). I wish I could have been as unconfused and coherent—in some profound sense—as I feel that I am now in comparison to what I was then. And I ask you to pass on my sincere best wishes to Gary and his family. I have nothing but the most positive memories of him and Marilynn. Good people. I know there are others who, as you say are carrying the sense of woundedness. I wounded others; I wounded myself. But it is a very complex story and neither Gary's experience nor mine will be the last word on all this. Yours, maybe. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post- Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have posted—causing some salivating in Amsterdam—you have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. Vaj: I don't believe I am implying any such thing. But I do understand you may be extra sensitive on some of these issues. I would expect that you'd at least be in some penitential mode to the point where you were relieved of your own sense of dread. RESPONSE: Apart from attempting to provide some evidence for your claim to know me, what, pray tell, was the purpose of posting that photo? You guessed correctly the first time. I had to pick from several others and the other contender, from a private party, has you in the center on a hastily constructed throne, but also, perfectly poised and in crystal clear focus was your former attorney, VMc. It seemed harmless enough; but once you started commenting on the psychological state of the persons in the photo, once you began to interact with Barry, once you brought in names of persons who now have nothing to do with me, you were, surely you were, Vaj, linking my recent posts to myself in my past life such as to take something off the sting of my demand that you tell the truth. Well I was trying to place the picture in context. I feel it is important to convey an objective context of the situation. Now thinking back on it, that might have been the painting of SBS you were holding, no? Now don't try to psychologize me; you are a neophyte in this realm. And you still evince not a inkling of understanding or intuition such as to make me even consider you have any idea of the person that I am—or even the person that I was. It is all this Walter Mitty thing again—but in this instance, with a sense of revenging yourself. sigh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/255940
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
On Dec 1, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/255940 Does anyone else not notice the bizarre synchronicity of RWC's Monte Cassino karma and this? Mere coincidence? I think not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Vaj deleted it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Dear Vaj, When it comes to your death, ask that you might just die a little; ask if you can hold back something of yourself; that you don't want to go all the way. I say this because this certainly will be your first inclination when death comes on. I am only getting my inspiration from what St Francis called Sister Death: she awaits, Vaj. Why not make things easier on her, so she doesn't have to make you go through something which would make you wish you had taken the cue from that Canadian guy? Death; think about it, Vaj; because there you will really be on your own, and you will realize that you have not exactly made your actions here at FFL a preparation for that moment. It's coming. It's coming for all of us. What do you think the verdict's going to be? in the consensus of Sal, Barry, and yourself? Or in the consensus of almost everyone else here at FFL and all the good angels to boot. You seem to misunderstand me, Vaj: I am not writing here at FFL to defend my past actions as the man in Unity Consciousness. I am here to work out my salvationif I can use what was once a literal fact but which now must now be a metaphor. Posting at FFL has done a lot of good for me in this endeavour. I wish the same for yourself. But just look at what you chose to select out from my last two postsconspicuously ignoring all the points that would really make some demand upon yourself. Preferring instead to quote passages which do not bear upon the essential point of our discussion. And to which you makeconsistently, unfailinglyresponses which are of no purport. If you want to advance this conversation to a just and final resolution, you must risk something you have never thought to bring in, Vaj: your sincerity. This you eschewand I think out of a most insidious timidity and fantastical compulsion. But hey! I don't know anything here, Vaj: and guess what? I would just as soon discover I was magnificently wrong in everything I have said about you, as to know, and have it proven to me, that everything I have said about you is correct. Do you realize, dear Vaj, you have not once attempted to defend yourself on the grounds which I have challenged you? Why not just shut this baby down, VajOh, you want to go another round, do you? Well, know this, Vaj: This is not a fair fight. You are being pummelled. But the alarming thing is *you don't feel the pain*. Must I understand you can even lie your heart out of its rightful experience? Because if you were in touch with any ultimate truth, Vaj, you would see that I am working on behalf of your true self. How's that for a little Canadian self-righteous obnoxiousness? Well, I am alas quixotic in my sinceritymy irony servesat least I hope it doesmy love. Now shut the fuck up, Vaj, and call this one off. It is not a fair fight. With Curtis, that was something different. Learn from him. Study his responses to me. That said, by cracky I hope I am as deceived as I think I am undeceived about you, Vaj. Do you realize what a thrill it would be for me for you to provide *just one iota of proof* of a single claim you have made about TM, Maharishi, and me? That would be a riot, picking up the pieces after that. I think it cruel of you to deprive all of uswell, nearly all of usat FFL of this opportunity to be disabused of our false and unjust interpretation of your behaviour. Well, I am going to be hoping for the Dream Team Eagles tonight when they face those Pete Carroll Seahawks. The Patriots really gave their confidence a licking last Sunday. Did you see that? Now tell me, is LSU or is Alabama going to win it all this year? You need to watch Letterman, Vaj. Hold it! Check your motive in wanting to answer this. It is up to my motive in laying down my challenge to you, Vaj? Think about this carefully; a perfunctory, costing-you-nothing-of-your-soul response won't do. It might look purty on your computer screen before it gets posted, but once exposed to reality the whole universe will judge it. Stop bringing in nameseven slyly using initialsof persons who have nothing to do with me. You are violating their privacy, Vaj. This is the height of moral gaucheness. See how Ted faced Sylvia's parents after she committed suicide? That, Vaj, was the gold standard in being real. I quoted him as an example for you. (And I quoted his personal review of Pinter for Barry the Reviewer's sakebecause what Hughes said about Pinter was what hardly any critic could see. Hughes comments on the persons at that cocktail party, they were perceptive in just the way I wish you would aspire tonot to mention dear Sal. Take me as I am, Vaj: I wish you only the very bestthat is, the very best of YOURSELF. You didn't create yourself. But you now are responsible for yourself. I have said all that I want to say. May the Baby Jesus be nice to us as we get closer to that day when our philosophies will be put to the extremest test there is.
[FairfieldLife] Early Christian meditation
MMY what you put your attention on grows According to both original Christian Churches the Name Jesus was the Word to be transcended on having the actual presence of the divine in what the Name signifies. Meditation on the Name Jesus has been practiced continuously in the Christian tradition. Eastern Orthodox Christians call this practice the Jesus Prayer and use it as either a phrase or just focus on the name Jesus. In the current times this tradition has been formalized in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, Scriptures, and Eastern Orthodox teaching. Fr. Thomas Hopko, Dean Emeritus, St. Vladimir's Orthodox Seminary. For ancient Christianity and for Eastern Orthodoxy through the ages, the very name Jesus, Yeshua, Joshua is the presence and the power of the Person of Christ himself. When you say that name, he is there. When you invoke that name, Jesus is present. His power is present. His might is present. His saving power is present. He is present! It's a parousia. It's a parousia before the presence of the Lord at the end of the ages, and at the end of the ages is when every knee in heaven and on earth will bow down before him to the glory of God the Father. Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church CCC 2666 But the one name that contains everything is the one that the Son of God received in his incarnation: JESUS. The divine name may not be spoken by human lips, but by assuming our humanity The Word of God hands it over to us and we can invoke it: Jesus, YHWH saves. The name Jesus contains all: God and man and the whole economy of creation and salvation. To pray Jesus is to invoke him and to call him within us. His name is the only one that contains the presence it signifies. Jesus is the Risen One, and whoever invokes the name of Jesus is welcoming the Son of God who loved him and who gave himself up for him.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hi Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:32 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, When it comes to your death, ask that you might just die a little; ask if you can hold back something of yourself; that you don't want to go all the way. I say this because this certainly will be your first inclination when death comes on. I am only getting my inspiration from what St Francis called Sister Death: she awaits, Vaj. Why not make things easier on her, so she doesn't have to make you go through something which would make you wish you had taken the cue from that Canadian guy? Death; think about it, Vaj; because there you will really be on your own, and you will realize that you have not exactly made your actions here at FFL a preparation for that moment. It's coming. It's coming for all of us. What do you think the verdict's going to be? in the consensus of Sal, Barry, and yourself? Or in the consensus of almost everyone else here at FFL and all the good angels to boot. Wouldn't it make sense to try dying out before you die R.? No I'm not trying to convince you to commit suicide. Not even die daily as Yeshua advised…but at least try it out. You seem to misunderstand me, Vaj: I am not writing here at FFL to defend my past actions as the man in Unity Consciousness. I am here to work out my salvation—if I can use what was once a literal fact but which now must now be a metaphor. Posting at FFL has done a lot of good for me in this endeavour. I wish the same for yourself. But just look at what you chose to select out from my last two posts—conspicuously ignoring all the points that would really make some demand upon yourself. Preferring instead to quote passages which do not bear upon the essential point of our discussion. And to which you make—consistently, unfailingly—responses which are of no purport. IOW, I'm not playing the game you want me to play. If you want to advance this conversation to a just and final resolution, you must risk something you have never thought to bring in, Vaj: your sincerity. This you eschew—and I think out of a most insidious timidity and fantastical compulsion. But hey! I don't know anything here, Vaj: and guess what? I would just as soon discover I was magnificently wrong in everything I have said about you, as to know, and have it proven to me, that everything I have said about you is correct. Do you realize, dear Vaj, you have not once attempted to defend yourself on the grounds which I have challenged you? Why not just shut this baby down, Vaj—Oh, you want to go another round, do you? Well, know this, Vaj: This is not a fair fight. You are being pummelled. But the alarming thing is *you don't feel the pain*. Must I understand you can even lie your heart out of its rightful experience? Because if you were in touch with any ultimate truth, Vaj, you would see that I am working on behalf of your true self. How's that for a little Canadian self-righteous obnoxiousness? Typical? Well, I am alas quixotic in my sincerity—my irony serves—at least I hope it does—my love. I suspect you have a lot more irony in store for you - at least from my POV. Now shut the fuck up, Vaj, and call this one off. It is not a fair fight. With Curtis, that was something different. Learn from him. Study his responses to me. That said, by cracky I hope I am as deceived as I think I am undeceived about you, Vaj. Do you realize what a thrill it would be for me for you to provide *just one iota of proof* of a single claim you have made about TM, Maharishi, and me? Maybe Alanis could write a song about it? That would be a riot, picking up the pieces after that. I think it cruel of you to deprive all of us—well, nearly all of us—at FFL of this opportunity to be disabused of our false and unjust interpretation of your behaviour. Well, I am going to be hoping for the Dream Team Eagles tonight when they face those Pete Carroll Seahawks. The Patriots really gave their confidence a licking last Sunday. Did you see that? Now tell me, is LSU or is Alabama going to win it all this year? You need to watch Letterman, Vaj. Hold it! Check your motive in wanting to answer this. It is up to my motive in laying down my challenge to you, Vaj? Think about this carefully; a perfunctory, costing-you-nothing-of-your-soul response won't do. It might look purty on your computer screen before it gets posted, but once exposed to reality the whole universe will judge it. Stop bringing in names—even slyly using initials—of persons who have nothing to do with me. You are violating their privacy, Vaj. This is the height of moral gaucheness. No, writing their entire names would be gauche R. See how Ted faced Sylvia's parents after she committed suicide? That, Vaj, was the gold standard in being real. I quoted him as an example for you. (And I quoted his personal review of Pinter for Barry the
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Not to worry, the're all in the CIA files from where they have been copied and published here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Frankie And Johnny Frankie And Johnny, Anonymous. Frankie and Johnnie were lovers, O, my Gawd, how they could love, They swore to be true to each other, As true as the stars above; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie was a good woman, As everybody knows, Gave her man a hundred dollars, To get him a suit of clothes; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie and Johnnie went walking, Johnnie in his bran' new suit, Oh, my Gawd, said Frankie, But don't my Johnnie look cute? He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie went down to Memphis, Went on the morning train, Paid a hundred dollars, Got Johnnie a watch and chain; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie lived in a crib-house, Crib-house with only two doors, Gave her money to Johnnie, He spent it on those parlour whores; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie went down to the corner, Went for a bucket of beer, She said, Oh, Mr. Bar-tender, Has my loving Johnnie been here? He is my man, and he's done me wrong. I won't make you no trouble, I won't tell you no lie, But I saw Johnnie an hour ago With a girl named Nellie Bly; He is your man, and he's doing you wrong. Frankie went to the hock-shop, Bought her a big forty-four, Aimed that gun at the ceiling, Shot a big hole in the floor; Now where's my man that's doing me wrong? Frankie went down to the hook-shop, Looked in at a window so high, There she saw her Johnnie, Loving up Nellie Bly, He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie went up to the front door, She rang the front-door bell, Said, Stand back, all you chippies, Or I'll blow you all to hell; I want my man, who's done me wrong. Frankie went into the hook-shop, She didn't go there for fun, 'Cause underneath her kimona She toted that forty-four gun; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie looked in at the keyhole, And there before her eye, She saw her Johnnie on the sofa, A loving up Nellie Bly; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie threw back her kimona, Took out the little forty-four, Roota-toot-toot, three times she shoot, Right through that hardwood door; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Johnnie grabbed off his Stetson, Said, Oh, Gawd, Frankie, don't shoot! But she pressed hard on the trigger, And the gun went roota-toot-toot; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Roll me over easy, Oh, roll me over slow, Roll me over on my right side, 'Cause my left side hurts me so. He was her man, but he done her wrong. Bring out your rubber-tyred buggy, Bring out your rubber-tyred hack, I'll take my man to the graveyard, But I won't bring him back; He was my man, but he done me wrong. They brought out the rubber-tyred hearses, They brought out the rubber-tyred hack, Thirteen men went to the graveyard, But only twelve came back; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Bring 'round a hundred policemen, Bring 'em around to-day, And lock me in that jail-house, Then throw the key away; I shot my man, 'cause he done me wrong. I've saved up a little money, I'll save up a little more, I'll send it all to his widow, And say it's from the girl next door; He was my man, but he done me wrong. Frankie went to the madame, She fell down on her knees, Forgive me, Mrs. Halcome, Forgive me, if you please; I've killed my man, 'cause he done me wrong. Forgive you, Frankie darling? Forgive you I never can. Forgive you, Frankie darling, For shooting your only man? For he was your man, though he done you wrong. Frankie went to the coffin, Looked down at his face, Said, Oh, Lord, have mercy on me, I'd like to take his place; He was my man, but he done me wrong. A rubber-tyred buggy, A rubber-tyred hack, Took poor Frankie to the jail-house But it didn't bring her back; He was her man, but he done her wrong. Frankie sat in her prison, Had no electric fan, Told her little sister, Never marry no sporting man; I had a man, but he done me wrong. The Sheriff took Frankie to the gallows, Hung her until she died, They hung her for killing Johnnie, And the undertaker waited outside; She killed her man, 'cause he done her wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Hi Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:32 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, When it comes to your death, ask that you might just die a little; ask if you can hold back something of yourself; that you don't want to go all the way. I say this because this certainly will be your first inclination when death comes on. I am only getting my inspiration from what St Francis called Sister Death: she awaits, Vaj. Why not make things easier on her, so she doesn't have to make you go through something which would make you wish you had taken the cue from that Canadian guy? Death; think about it, Vaj; because there you will really be on your own, and you will realize that you have not exactly made your
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Not to worry, the're all in the CIA files from where they have been copied and published here. FBI. Sorry, my typing error.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
On 12/01/2011 03:51 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Not to worry, the're all in the CIA files from where they have been copied and published here. No one should worry. You can't really tell who is in that blurry picture anyway. Could be anybody.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Earthy Anecdote Every time the bucks went clattering Over Oklahoma A firecat bristled in the way. Wherever they went, They went clattering, Until they swerved In a swift, circular line To the right, Because of the firecat. Or until they swerved In a swift, circular line To the left, Because of the firecat. The bucks clattered. The firecat went leaping, To the right, to the left, And Bristled in the way. Later, the firecat closed his bright eyes And slept. Wallace Stevens Frankie and Johnny =ANON --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
'When the rain raineth' When the rain raineth And the Goose winketh, Little wotteth the Gosling What the Goose thinketh. ANON --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/255940 Does anyone else not notice the bizarre synchronicity of RWC's Monte Cassino karma and this? Mere coincidence? I think not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Saint Francis and the Sow The bud stands for all things, even those things that don't flower, for everything flowers, from within, of self-blessing; though sometimes it is necessary to reteach a thing its loveliness, to put a hand on its brow of the flower and retell it in words and in touch it is lovely until it flowers again from within, of self-blessing; as St. Francis put his hand on the creased forehead of the sow, and told her in words and in touch blessings of earth on the sow, and the sow began remembering all down her thick length, from the earthen snout all the way through the fodder and slops to the spiritual curl of the tail, from the hard spininess spiked out from the spine down through the great broken heart to the blue milken dreaminess spurting and shuddering from the fourteen teats into the fourteen mouths sucking and blowing beneath them: the long, perfect loveliness of sow. Galway Kinnell --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: 'When the rain raineth' When the rain raineth And the Goose winketh, Little wotteth the Gosling What the Goose thinketh. ANON Stand up straight - My Mother Turning and turning Within the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer Things fall apart The center cannot hold And a blood dimmed tide Is loosed upon the world Nothing is sacred The ceremony sinks Innocence is drowned In anarchy The best lack conviction Given some time to think And the worst are full of passion Without mercy Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Hoping and hoping As if by my weak faith The spirit of this world Would heal and rise Vast are the shadows That straddle and strafe And struggle in the darkness Troubling my eyes Shaped like a lion It has the head of a man With a gaze as blank And pitiless as the sun And it's moving its slow thighs Across the desert sands Through dark indignant Reeling falcons Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Raging and raging It rises from the deep Opening its eyes After twenty centuries Vexed to a nightmare Out of a stony sleep By a rocking cradle By the Sea of Galilee Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast? Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born W.B. Yeats / Joni Mitchell
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.
Vag: These are Sanderson's theories. Interesting, yes, but just theories Bill. Interesting from the POV of scholastic materialism. For consciousness-based practitioners, not so much. My reply: There is no such thing as scholastic materialism. It is a b.s. label. Some scholars are mere academics while some scholars are also practitioners. I know people in both categories In the West, in the field of religious studies, this scholar versus practitioner divide has always been seen. To now call yourself a consciousness-based practitioner but label Dr. Alex Sanderson a scholastic materialist is dishonest on your part. Vag: That seems a fair representation, but it's missing key components. Rishis see mantras at the pasyanti level of speech. My reply: This just restates the understanding put forward by the grammarian Bartrihari about shabda-brahman and later adopted by the Hindu Tantras. It is in direct contradiction to the Buddhist nominalist (Apoha-vada) doctrine of Vasubandu and Dignaga. Vag: This same universal process occurs in many different traditions, using different names but what's being experienced is this same speech that is seen. My reply: That process arises out the self-revealing Logos (Vach/Vak) of Brahman. It is the very calling-forth (vocalization) of the Real to us as human beings and is what Shruti is in essence. That is the reason the primal sounds in Sanskrit vibrate the chakras/elements (maha-bhutas) and is unexplainable in Buddhism. Vag: It's the process of revelation that's the same William. Both tertons and Vedic or Bonpo rishis cognize wisdom by overthrowing dualistic limitations within consciousness and the wisdom that emerges emerges from a mandala, which emerges from a seed-syllable. The only reason or way the process of revelation would be different is if their nervous systems were different across time. But both have instances were wisdom emerges in the form of a mandala, in the consciousness of the seer. My reply: Out of non-duality arises everything that can appear as duality. However, that does not mean the process of cognizance for Tertons is the same as Seeing Shrutis is for a Vedic Rishi. Non-dual awareness can be temporary or permanent but the calling-forth of Brahman is foundational to human consciousness. Thus visionary perception is common to our human condition but that doesn't make it Shruti. BTW Many Gelugpa scholars do not accept that these Termas (Visionary Treasures) are revelations. Most consider them to be stock Buddhist Tantric mems embedded in the culture of Tibet and not teaching from Padmasambhava or any Sambhogakaya persona. Vag: This also explains why sadhanas used in Shaivism are similar (or the same) to those used in the Inner Tantras or Atiyoga. They're triggering the same visionary process within different contexts or ways of seeing. My reply: Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's Webpage. He has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist textual borrowing from Shaiva tantric texts. Your explanation is almost a New Age syncretism. Oh so sorry but Pss - it's not really all one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 1:35 PM, emptybill wrote: Me previously: The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the purana/ tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain in composition. Vag reply: Incorrect. Most mantras from the vajrayana paths were revealed - or re-revealed if you prefer, to classes of yogis known as tertons (gter ston) or treasure revealers. These are effectively modern rishis revealing these mantras in a different context despite their phonological similarity to their (Hindu) tantric counterparts. In actuality they represent the tantric subjugation of the collective consciousness of groups which opposed buddha-dharma at that time (and actually up to and including the present). My reply: This is more disinformation and B.S. from you Vag. Alex Sanderson shows in his analysis of Heruka-Abhi-Dhana-Tantra the Buddhist borrowing from Hindu Shaiva Agamas and other relevant texts. http://alexissanderson.com/Documents/2009ViennaHeruka.pdf These are Sanderson's theories. Interesting, yes, but just theories Bill. Interesting from the POV of scholastic materialism. For consciousness-based practitioners, not so much. Furthermore the two traditions are not the same in any way. The Rishi-s were seers of the Veda who revealed those sound values in human speech (with all of its relative difficulties). The Veda is held to have existed before manifestation and before sound articulation by humans. It is considered self-revealing but enunciated originally by Bhagavan Ishvara at the very no-beginning. The cosmic devas commenced resounding it in a sacrifice recapitulating the originating fragmentation of Bhagavan Purusha. That fragmentation was the grace of primordial sacrifice which
[FairfieldLife] Re: Early Christian meditation
Yeah, 'fer him ever nee shal bend an ever hed shal bow hall i u e yah --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: MMY what you put your attention on grows According to both original Christian Churches the Name Jesus was the Word to be transcended on having the actual presence of the divine in what the Name signifies. Meditation on the Name Jesus has been practiced continuously in the Christian tradition. Eastern Orthodox Christians call this practice the Jesus Prayer and use it as either a phrase or just focus on the name Jesus. In the current times this tradition has been formalized in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, Scriptures, and Eastern Orthodox teaching. Fr. Thomas Hopko, Dean Emeritus, St. Vladimir's Orthodox Seminary. For ancient Christianity and for Eastern Orthodoxy through the ages, the very name Jesus, Yeshua, Joshua is the presence and the power of the Person of Christ himself. When you say that name, he is there. When you invoke that name, Jesus is present. His power is present. His might is present. His saving power is present. He is present! It's a parousia. It's a parousia before the presence of the Lord at the end of the ages, and at the end of the ages is when every knee in heaven and on earth will bow down before him to the glory of God the Father. Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church CCC 2666 But the one name that contains everything is the one that the Son of God received in his incarnation: JESUS. The divine name may not be spoken by human lips, but by assuming our humanity The Word of God hands it over to us and we can invoke it: Jesus, YHWH saves. The name Jesus contains all: God and man and the whole economy of creation and salvation. To pray Jesus is to invoke him and to call him within us. His name is the only one that contains the presence it signifies. Jesus is the Risen One, and whoever invokes the name of Jesus is welcoming the Son of God who loved him and who gave himself up for him.
[FairfieldLife] Carve your own destiny
http://www.bymichaelo.com/carveyourowndestiny.htm by Michael Oswald
[FairfieldLife] Bill Clinton appears in Funny or Die spoof
The folks at Funny or Die produced an original video celebrating the William J. Clinton Foundation's 10th anniversary. Ben Stiller, Matt Damon, Kristen Wiig, Sean Penn and a few surprise guests act out an unlikely scenario as members of the Foundation's important Celebrity Division. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-difference/bill-clinton-appears-celeb-laden-funny-die-spoof-073131640.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Sal, I think its incredibility unfair; a picture, worthy your attention, finally appears on FFL, while you're out complaining about milk and cookies, and now its gone. I think you should complain to Rick and Alex; call it a reverse spam, they'll understand. In the meantime, here's one to make up for it. It a picture of Barry waiting for his Vajette. The missing thought bubble reads: I wonder what his favorite color is? http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_5640.jpg PS: Does anyone else have a picture for Sal, lets be fair. From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:45:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
Joni Mitchell should leave Yeats alone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: 'When the rain raineth' When the rain raineth And the Goose winketh, Little wotteth the Gosling What the Goose thinketh. ANON Stand up straight - My Mother Turning and turning Within the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer Things fall apart The center cannot hold And a blood dimmed tide Is loosed upon the world Nothing is sacred The ceremony sinks Innocence is drowned In anarchy The best lack conviction Given some time to think And the worst are full of passion Without mercy Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Hoping and hoping As if by my weak faith The spirit of this world Would heal and rise Vast are the shadows That straddle and strafe And struggle in the darkness Troubling my eyes Shaped like a lion It has the head of a man With a gaze as blank And pitiless as the sun And it's moving its slow thighs Across the desert sands Through dark indignant Reeling falcons Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Raging and raging It rises from the deep Opening its eyes After twenty centuries Vexed to a nightmare Out of a stony sleep By a rocking cradle By the Sea of Galilee Surely some revelation is at hand Surely it's the second coming And the wrath has finally taken form For what is this rough beast? Its hour come at last Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born Slouching towards Bethlehem to be born W.B. Yeats / Joni Mitchell
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.
The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the purana/tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain in composition... Most mantras from the vajrayana paths were revealed - or re-revealed if you prefer... emptybill: Alex Sanderson shows in his analysis of Heruka-Abhi-Dhana-Tantra the Buddhist borrowing from Hindu Shaiva Agamas and other relevant texts... At some point, we all are going to have to face the historical facts: the bija mantras used in both Tantric Buddhism and in Hindu Yoga are made-up sounds that are found in any common household, heard around the house every day, or from the sounds found in nature. Bija mantras are NOT revealed or cognized or 'seen' by the monad or by some mythical 'rishi'. All mantric practices stem from the ancient shamanistic practice of Oddiyana, that is Buddhists of Trans-Himalya, hence to India. The Mantrayna was adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and Vaishanava sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age. For example, the bija mantra 'phat' is called the astra 'weapon' bija used as an aggressive mantra from the earliest times. The sound of phat, to the Indian ear, conveys the sensation of explosion. According to Bharati, in Hindi, 'phat' is a very common colloquial household term for 'burst, explode', in both intransitive and transitive use, as in a two wheeled, two-stroke, motorized rickshaw, thus a 'phata phata', heard all over Delhi! From this, a causative verb pharna is formed. The motor-cycle rickshaw in Delhi is called 'phat phata' by its drivers; phatki is a fire-cracker. Once a syllable like this has been accepted into esoteric usage, analogous syllables will readily follow... (116). Works cited: Sanskrit Lexicon: Phat!: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid-Sanskrit; causative verb? 1. Crack! 2. Snap! 3. Pop! 4. Meaningless sound. 5. Gibberish. 6. Bija mantra - sometimes referred to as the weapon mantra also, in that, it destroys obstacles. http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/ 'The Tantric Tradition' by Swami Ageananda Bharati Rider, 1965 Subject: Its Not What You Think! Thread: Phat! A magic word for protection? Author: Willytex Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Updated: August 26, 2003
[FairfieldLife] Re: What will happen when Mitt Romney is sworn as President!
authfriend: No, they didn't. Please read the Wikipedia article I recommended to John and inform yourself: Thanks for the information! More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages came from private lending institutions in 2006 and the share of subprime loans insured by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac decreased as the bubble got bigger (from a high of insuring 48 percent to insuring 24 percent of all subprime loans in 2006)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_policies_and_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
heheh - Bob, truly inspired by the idea of a screenplay, perhaps as an animated component of said holiday gift manual, I decided to finish the scene I began earlier, only this time Vaj's wife is indeed King Baby: Vaj: (staring a little too intensely at the computer screen) Fuck! Shit! KB: (dusting, in another room) What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... KB: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! KB: (sigh) Nothing!! (drops duster, stands up, arms akimbo, apron on) When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: (yelling over his shoulder, a cold Mountain Dew and a few loose mms next to his PC)Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! KB: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out how to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... KB: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... KB: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when VJ gets like this) KB's sister: (split screen aka Pillow Talk) How long has it been since she, y'know...like...worked? KB: Don't ask. Don't. Ask. It's a wonder I can put food on the table. VJ's been *very* upset these days. So bitchy sometimes - that's my Opinion, anyway...So snide this morning after I had made omelettes and brioche for us, she says, Going out to the...`café' to do some...`writing'??, like my talent is lost on her...Hasn't she read my online masterpiece, Roadtrip Highway Travelin' Thang?? VJ *said* I was good...she always encourages me to continue with my new book... KB's sister: Know'wcha'mean... KB: fuck, cracked my nail, gotta go sis! KB's sister: toodles! call me - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Yo Vajette, This is how you write a screenplay. And yes, your wife is a.k.a. KB. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:40:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... Vaj's wife: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when he gets like this) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Nov 30, 2011,
[FairfieldLife] Insane Clown Posse?
No, not the band - Barney and Maxine! Rep. Barney Frank's Monday decision to retire will remove one of the staunchest defenders of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and may replace the Massachusetts Democrat with an even stauncher defender, California Rep. Maxine Waters. . . . Waters, who has represented South Los Angeles since 1990, has viewed Freddie and Fannie as key to serving low-income housing needs. In a 2003 hearing, she denied that anything at all was amiss with the mortgage giants... 'Fannie, Freddie Lose A Friend In Frank' Investors Business Daily: http://tinyurl.com/bmevxke
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
Raunchy, If this one left you a bit puzzled, not to worry; its a rerun of what Barry did to Curtis a few weeks back. He gets nervous when people point out he's acting like a slug, and accuses someone of having told him to do it. I'm sure you've seen the same pattern in a number of male eight year olds. Next he'll threaten to take his marbles and go home---unfortunately, he'll still be looking for a daddy on FFL long after the rest of us have lost interest. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:48:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin For the record, Raunchy, thank you for your fair and balanced report from the Front Lines. It is in accord with your first postings about Robin and the enduring legacy that his teaching had on Fairfield, and on you personally, back in 2008: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/200366 Just for the record, do you make a distinction between the TMO Inquisitors you refer to in your post and Robin's stage act at the time, or not? Seems to me both sets of Inquisitors were cut from the same cloth. And still are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. I found a picture of St. Mary's steeple on Google images. The people face 3rd. The steeple faces the cross street on W. Grimes. It looks like the steeple in Vaj's photo. [http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg] http://www.doorsinciowa.com/stmarys.jpg [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kLLXTtJ--Yt3lLj9NZh5Vw1Pbpt-HJeF2ZTRY7VzH_\; v4t-QR0SguuLSxQ7t8xPBI4bEPYjXrGNyULMF0dYE2zixP-rGL8CBF/Paths%2C%20Teache\ rs%20and%20Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 26 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011 681 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 02 00:06:54 2011 51 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... Oooops... see ya back here on the 9th.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
I take it the photo has been removed? (I can't find it in files where it is said to be) If so, perhaps someone can send it privately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church, 402 N. 3rd Street. They built a new church west of town and recently tore down old St. Mary's. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/255940
[FairfieldLife] 10 Best Places to Retire
Well, I've given up on moving up to Vedic City, after reading what you guys said about it. And, it looks like moving to Sonoma CA, to be near my daughter would cost me a fortune! Last summer I checked out Deadwood, S.D., somewhere west of Laramie, and that didn't impress me, although I enjoyed the TV Series a lot. Being a military brat like Turq, it would take a lot to impress me - TB says Sante Fe, NM. Go figure: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm35.html Affordable mountain town: Boone, N.C.: Pricey Aspen and Vail may be beyond your budget, but that doesn't mean you can't spend your retirement years appreciating spectacular mountain views or making runs on the slopes. Nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains, Boone boasts three nearby ski resorts as well as trails for cross country skiing, winter hiking, and snowshoeing. Residents of this small town of 14,000 also have access to one of the country's most scenic roads, the Blue Ridge Parkway. A bonus: Boone provides residents with a free local bus service, AppalCART, and access to many of the amenities at Appalachian State University. In 2010, the median home sale price was $215,250. 'The 10 Best Places to Retire in 2012' http://tinyurl.com/6epxx8q
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Jim, I love it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyI1gxQU17Ifeature=related From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:34:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife heheh - Bob, truly inspired by the idea of a screenplay, perhaps as an animated component of said holiday gift manual, I decided to finish the scene I began earlier, only this time Vaj's wife is indeed King Baby: Vaj: (staring a little too intensely at the computer screen) Fuck! Shit! KB: (dusting, in another room) What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... KB: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! KB: (sigh) Nothing!! (drops duster, stands up, arms akimbo, apron on) When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: (yelling over his shoulder, a cold Mountain Dew and a few loose mms next to his PC)Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! KB: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out how to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... KB: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... KB: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when VJ gets like this) KB's sister: (split screen aka Pillow Talk) How long has it been since she, y'know...like...worked? KB: Don't ask. Don't. Ask. It's a wonder I can put food on the table. VJ's been *very* upset these days. So bitchy sometimes - that's my Opinion, anyway...So snide this morning after I had made omelettes and brioche for us, she says, Going out to the...`café' to do some...`writing'??, like my talent is lost on her...Hasn't she read my online masterpiece, Roadtrip Highway Travelin' Thang?? VJ *said* I was good...she always encourages me to continue with my new book... KB's sister: Know'wcha'mean... KB: fuck, cracked my nail, gotta go sis! KB's sister: toodles! call me - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Yo Vajette, This is how you write a screenplay. And yes, your wife is a.k.a. KB. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:40:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I take it the photo has been removed? Yes, Vaj deleted it this morning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
Ok. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: I take it the photo has been removed? Yes, Vaj deleted it this morning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Party pooper! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 26 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011 681 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 02 00:06:54 2011 51 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ Oooops... see ya back here on the 9th.
[FairfieldLife] Not only the best meditation practice but the easiest to learn!
http://tmsw.org.uk/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
raunchydog: Vaj's photo appears to be old St. Mary's Catholic Church... We've got a few Catholic churches down here too. LoL! http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/sanjose.htm
[FairfieldLife] effects of the transcendental Meditation technique on Mental Health
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResearchonMentalHealth/index.cfm
[FairfieldLife] More expertise on the economic situation
If you had a chance to watch the 10 minute YouTube video that I posted yesterday with Australian economics professor Dr. Steve Keen here is a 44 minute video from his interview yesterday on Thom Hartmann's radio show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmaYcx2LqFI This is a very enlightening interview.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Not to worry, the're all in the CIA files from where they have been copied and published here. FBI. Sorry, my typing error. Psst. Nabby. S. Take note: The Post Count. Looks like a good bunch have met their deadline. You can post all you want about now or at least after I post out too. hehe. Let's talk about the crops and circles. The files at the CIA are loaded with that shit! Pull em out and we can imagine what a world is like with the crop circle creators http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aK8I-CDQGQ and ooh ooww this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egudvdwtDIg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Party pooper! Festive scatology is what I live for! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 26 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011 681 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 02 00:06:54 2011 51 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ Oooops... see ya back here on the 9th.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
: ) Funny, very funny! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Party pooper! Festive scatology is what I live for! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 26 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011 681 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 02 00:06:54 2011 51 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ Oooops... see ya back here on the 9th.
[FairfieldLife] Albert Einstein There is neither evolution nor destiny; only being.
http://www.tm.org/blog/enlightenment/albert-einstein/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
i know Vaj just got spanked for posting someone's picture, but I can't resist this one from Barry's days as a roadie for some really-famous-rock-bands: http://tinyurl.com/7xnjluc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Sal, I think its incredibility unfair; a picture, worthy your attention, finally appears on FFL, while you're out complaining about milk and cookies, and now its gone. I think you should complain to Rick and Alex; call it a reverse spam, they'll understand. In the meantime, here's one to make up for it. It a picture of Barry waiting for his Vajette. The missing thought bubble reads: I wonder what his favorite color is? http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_5640.jpg PS: Does anyone else have a picture for Sal, lets be fair. From: Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:45:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Oops, wrong url - its late, but anything for the holidays! *Here* it is: http://tinyurl.com/7z9d89g --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: i know Vaj just got spanked for posting someone's picture, but I can't resist this one from Barry's days as a roadie for some really-famous-rock-bands: http://tinyurl.com/7xnjluc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Sal, I think its incredibility unfair; a picture, worthy your attention, finally appears on FFL, while you're out complaining about milk and cookies, and now its gone. I think you should complain to Rick and Alex; call it a reverse spam, they'll understand. In the meantime, here's one to make up for it. It a picture of Barry waiting for his Vajette. The missing thought bubble reads: I wonder what his favorite color is? http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_5640.jpg PS: Does anyone else have a picture for Sal, lets be fair. From: Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:45:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Vaj wrote: Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM-style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Vaj, where's the file? The requested file or directory is not found on the server. Sal Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's photo of Robin
St. Mary's Catholic Church before they tore it down. The bell tower is the same as in Vaj's photo. http://www.cardcow.com/images/set342/card00610_fr.jpg St. Mary's when it was first built. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GHQ_j_S6ZQuEbFEJ8TggcpGl_HtEXBlfjjLF5LusnTs?feat=directlink New St. Mary's inside http://www.meritconst.com/images/churches_stmarys.jpg New St. Mary's outside http://www.stmarysfairfield.org/elevations2.pdf
