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[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: fuck your moth the way you like. shits herem fucken shit you Sounds like Dan might be experiencing some roughness of awareness. Hi Joe, I think Dan was just replying to my gentle challenge to posters here yesterday, and trying to convey to us what a spiritual experience in the here and now IS for a long-term TMer. I guess what I'm saying is that I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of that kind of selflessness on so-called spiritual forums. If you're offended by what I say, and your first impulse is to lash out at me, that's self talking. Bad Habits. If you feel that way, prove me wrong and write a post or two today about TODAY, and what you have experienced TODAY that you found uplifting or spiritual. If you can't, don't you think you deserve a refund for all the time, money, and energy you've put into the spiritual path you've been following? You've got to give him credit. No one else even tried. :-) Other classic Dan Friedman quotes in the past: * For many Governors and long-term meditators, experiences are real. I'm past the point of asking: 'What if?' * M regulary reminded us that we are The Movement and if we see better ways, to change things. * I grok your feelings, but, as different people are differrent, my feelings for Maharishi are neither complex, nor conflicted. * Perhaps FFL could be moderated a bit more closely. I want to go on record as disagreeing with Dan's last comment above. The more long-term TMers who post here and demonstrate what TM has done for them, the better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi doing what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa massaging Maharishi's feet after we have been together. So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-) Either that, or Tat Wala Baba knew what MMY had been up to and gave him a foot rub to recharge his shakti. Or knew and didn't care, or didn't know and would have abstained from any further foot-rubi-givin or foresaw the future in great detail, including my current post in Fairfield Life and contemplated butterflies and hurricanes or... L
[FairfieldLife] Flash crashes
BTW, I wanted to thank those who proposed solutions for the problems I've been having with Adobe Flash. Finally my brother discovered one fix that worked, so now I can watch videos on YouTube and other sources without crashing my computer dead: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-113-crashes To fix the problem, you pretty much have to uninstall Flash 11.3 and backtrack all the way back to 10.3, the last known stable version of Flash. It's pretty fascinating to look this problem up on Google. There are literally *thousands* of bug reports from angry customers out there, and so far Adobe has shown no signs of either being able to find out what the problem is or fix it. In fact, up until recently they've been fairly consistent in claiming that it's somebody else's fault. It's like an object lesson in How *Not* To Run A Software Company. I now understand completely why Apple didn't want to provide support for Flash in its mobile OS's. It would have meant exposing its customers to constant crashes and problems caused by Adobe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me when I read your comment. I think it was the toothpaste. :-) You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most important one of all. The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense physical desire. Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to deny to his soul this satisfaction. Robin Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book will be forthcoming. But surely not the oh so spotless Mr. Rick Archer, no Sir ! I had a stumble or two. But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Question to FFLers
His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god. But then, he never claimed not to be a god. Circumstances being what they were, neither admission could be of any benefit. Silence, though, could. Therefore, there was mystery about him. -Lord of Light, by Roger Zelazny http://arthursbookshelf.com/sci-fi/zelazny/Lord%20of%20Light%20-%20Roger%20Zelazny.pdf --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: This question has been posed before, by numerous people, but I don't remember it ever being dealt with in any depth, or with any real honesty, so I'm posing it again: If you believe that Maharishi was enlightened (in at least Cosmic Consciousness as he defined it, let alone Unity Consciousness as he defined it), WHY do you believe this? I ask because, try as I might I never once, in all the years I studied with him and was around him, heard Maharishi claim to be enlightened. Not once. I have met or encountered on the Internet *many* people whose experience was the same as mine; they cannot think of a single occasion on which he actually claimed to be in any higher state of consciousness. And yet, day after day we hear people talking on this and other forums as if Maharishi's enlightenment could be *assumed*, that it's a Done Deal, and a fact. They stake their entire reputations on this. I'm wondering WHY. If you're one of these people, convinced that Maharishi was enlightened, could you possibly explain WHY you feel this way? Thanks in advance...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi doing what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa massaging Maharishi's feet after we have been together. So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-) Either that, or Tat Wala Baba knew what MMY had been up to and gave him a foot rub to recharge his shakti. Interesting thought. I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. L. This is typical brainwashing Not much different than what Goebbels did... That's the whole point, I was attempting to make here... For the people who were on the German side during the WwII... And including the Spanish, Italian and Japanese Dictator Tyrantical Facists... These people feel very familiar with that type of propaganda, and that type of 'Perfect Leader'...which is the title 'Der Fuerer...the perfect leader...of a superior race When the American Democratic Model dissappointed Maharishi, he fell back on hand picking leadership from that soul grouping in German Elite Forces during the Nazi Era... Jerry Jarvis certainly did not fit into this mold...at all... My theory on Jerry is that he was a very high soul in his last life and this one, and served as a major General during WWII on the American side of the action... According to Maharishi's SCI theory, it is more based on 'Perfect Self-Referral Consciousness' as the only requirement for 'Perfect Right Action'... It has nothing to do with what is observed 'Outside' by an outside observer, because the outside observerobserves only from his/her level of consciousness... So, if one is very bond by 'Sex' then one would see 'Great Imperfection' with an 'Enlightened Sage' who calls himself, Maharishi, and who studied with a life-long celebate, Swami Brahmandanda Saraswati... But, that was an internal reference point which Maharhishi was going by...his own self-referral consciousness... Which allowd him to come up with the raja paraphenalia...etc... It allowed him to rebel against the Americans by sending the Right Wingers in the run things in America...starting in 1977 Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? L Perhaps he did...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
You too miss MMY's point: he couldn't possibly have been perfect, according to the theory he espoused. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. L. This is typical brainwashing Not much different than what Goebbels did... That's the whole point, I was attempting to make here... For the people who were on the German side during the WwII... And including the Spanish, Italian and Japanese Dictator Tyrantical Facists... These people feel very familiar with that type of propaganda, and that type of 'Perfect Leader'...which is the title 'Der Fuerer...the perfect leader...of a superior race When the American Democratic Model dissappointed Maharishi, he fell back on hand picking leadership from that soul grouping in German Elite Forces during the Nazi Era... Jerry Jarvis certainly did not fit into this mold...at all... My theory on Jerry is that he was a very high soul in his last life and this one, and served as a major General during WWII on the American side of the action... According to Maharishi's SCI theory, it is more based on 'Perfect Self-Referral Consciousness' as the only requirement for 'Perfect Right Action'... It has nothing to do with what is observed 'Outside' by an outside observer, because the outside observerobserves only from his/her level of consciousness... So, if one is very bond by 'Sex' then one would see 'Great Imperfection' with an 'Enlightened Sage' who calls himself, Maharishi, and who studied with a life-long celebate, Swami Brahmandanda Saraswati... But, that was an internal reference point which Maharhishi was going by...his own self-referral consciousness... Which allowd him to come up with the raja paraphenalia...etc... It allowed him to rebel against the Americans by sending the Right Wingers in the run things in America...starting in 1977 Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: You too miss MMY's point: he couldn't possibly have been perfect, according to the theory he espoused. L He was only claiming to be as perfect as the people in the movement wanted him to be... When I was with him, doing video taping in 1975, I saw him as being much more flexible with what was perfect or not perfect... For example, during some of the talks by the scientist present at the Physics Conference in Dec. 1975, Maharishi would go into a deep Samadhi just sitting on the couch with eyes closed... Almost dissappearing into the Silence'... His perfection for me, was not so much what he did or didn't do... But was more on the level of how I felt in his presence... I felt that he carried the silence of Guru Dev with him, as he had devoted his life to that revival of vedic knowledge...and because he had intiated so many people and then had taught so many initiators who taught so many people... All from a guy who stood all of 5 ft. talll...and who studied with a man who virtually spent all of his life in Silence, with little or no money or possessions... Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. L. This is typical brainwashing Not much different than what Goebbels did... That's the whole point, I was attempting to make here... For the people who were on the German side during the WwII... And including the Spanish, Italian and Japanese Dictator Tyrantical Facists... These people feel very familiar with that type of propaganda, and that type of 'Perfect Leader'...which is the title 'Der Fuerer...the perfect leader...of a superior race When the American Democratic Model dissappointed Maharishi, he fell back on hand picking leadership from that soul grouping in German Elite Forces during the Nazi Era... Jerry Jarvis certainly did not fit into this mold...at all... My theory on Jerry is that he was a very high soul in his last life and this one, and served as a major General during WWII on the American side of the action... According to Maharishi's SCI theory, it is more based on 'Perfect Self-Referral Consciousness' as the only requirement for 'Perfect Right Action'... It has nothing to do with what is observed 'Outside' by an outside observer, because the outside observerobserves only from his/her level of consciousness... So, if one is very bond by 'Sex' then one would see 'Great Imperfection' with an 'Enlightened Sage' who calls himself, Maharishi, and who studied with a life-long celebate, Swami Brahmandanda Saraswati... But, that was an internal reference point which Maharhishi was going by...his own self-referral consciousness... Which allowd him to come up with the raja paraphenalia...etc... It allowed him to rebel against the Americans by sending the Right Wingers in the run things in America...starting in 1977 Jai Guru Dev
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Fw: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers
Barry wrote in reference to this post and Dan: You've got to give him credit. No one else even tried. :-) Share's reply: I did. - Forwarded Message - From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers Good morning TurqB and thank you for asking this question. In the spirit of the Byron Katie question, Can you absolutely know that's true, I don't know if Maharishi was enlightened. btw, I have yet to find a situation in which I can answer yes to that BK question. Not a single one. And I also experience what I call knowingness which is more than intellectual knowledge and includes intuition as well as instinctual, bodily and emotional intelligence. This intuitive knowingness is what I experienced when I attended the TM intro lecture. I knew that it was what I had been seeking. And so I started TM the weekend before the Merv Griffin Show. 37 years later and between 5 and 10 programs total missed due to travel and or illness, and this intuitive knowing is still what keeps me on this path. As I've shared here before, I have investigated many other systems. I no longer look to the TMO for my emotional healing tho I do experience it as the foundation for my emotional development. By which I mean I don't think the other stuff would work as well as it has if I hadn't been doing TMSP. Which also gets a lot of credit for developing my intuitive knowing. When I left MUM 10 years ago to seek the emotional healing I needed, I was at peace with TMO. I had come to know that TMO is in the relative, thus best not to expect it to be perfect. Since then I have come to understand about internal dysfunctional families and how they are reflected in any and all groups one might join. Of course the leader of any such group would be a reflection of one's inner father. Both positive and negative projections leftover from childhood will be put on this person. Best to be conscious about such projections. Also as stated before, I am not a TM gov so don't have that particular bond with Maharishi. But I continue with TMSP and I continue to deeply resonate with Maharishi's explanations about consciousness, etc. That is more than enough for me. Hope this helps. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 5:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers This question has been posed before, by numerous people, but I don't remember it ever being dealt with in any depth, or with any real honesty, so I'm posing it again: If you believe that Maharishi was enlightened (in at least Cosmic Consciousness as he defined it, let alone Unity Consciousness as he defined it), WHY do you believe this? I ask because, try as I might I never once, in all the years I studied with him and was around him, heard Maharishi claim to be enlightened. Not once. I have met or encountered on the Internet *many* people whose experience was the same as mine; they cannot think of a single occasion on which he actually claimed to be in any higher state of consciousness. And yet, day after day we hear people talking on this and other forums as if Maharishi's enlightenment could be *assumed*, that it's a Done Deal, and a fact. They stake their entire reputations on this. I'm wondering WHY. If you're one of these people, convinced that Maharishi was enlightened, could you possibly explain WHY you feel this way? Thanks in advance...
Re: [FairfieldLife] .HAVE A BLISSFULL SUNNY SUNDAY
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
The difference betwx American and European interviews is interesting. Oprah's interested in whether TM is coercive and a cult. The European interview goes to context of whether TM is a sect and about a leadership of fanaticism. Americans are keyed by coercive Jonestown and Mormon type of cults while the long European experience is a language about fanaticism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: You too miss MMY's point: he couldn't possibly have been perfect, according to the theory he espoused. L He was only claiming to be as perfect as the people in the movement wanted him to be... When I was with him, doing video taping in 1975, I saw him as being much more flexible with what was perfect or not perfect... For example, during some of the talks by the scientist present at the Physics Conference in Dec. 1975, Maharishi would go into a deep Samadhi just sitting on the couch with eyes closed... Almost dissappearing into the Silence'... His perfection for me, was not so much what he did or didn't do... But was more on the level of how I felt in his presence... I felt that he carried the silence of Guru Dev with him, as he had devoted his life to that revival of vedic knowledge...and because he had intiated so many people and then had taught so many initiators who taught so many people... All from a guy who stood all of 5 ft. talll...and who studied with a man who virtually spent all of his life in Silence, with little or no money or possessions... Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. L. This is typical brainwashing Not much different than what Goebbels did... That's the whole point, I was attempting to make here... For the people who were on the German side during the WwII... And including the Spanish, Italian and Japanese Dictator Tyrantical Facists... These people feel very familiar with that type of propaganda, and that type of 'Perfect Leader'...which is the title 'Der Fuerer...the perfect leader...of a superior race When the American Democratic Model dissappointed Maharishi, he fell back on hand picking leadership from that soul grouping in German Elite Forces during the Nazi Era... Jerry Jarvis certainly did not fit into this mold...at all... My theory on Jerry is that he was a very high soul in his last life and this one, and served as a major General during WWII on the American side of the action... According to Maharishi's SCI theory, it is more based on 'Perfect Self-Referral Consciousness' as the only requirement for 'Perfect Right Action'... It has nothing to do with what is observed 'Outside' by an outside observer, because the outside observerobserves only from his/her level of consciousness... So, if one is very bond by 'Sex' then one would see 'Great Imperfection' with an 'Enlightened Sage' who calls himself, Maharishi, and who studied with a life-long celebate, Swami Brahmandanda Saraswati... But, that was an internal reference point which Maharhishi was going by...his own self-referral consciousness... Which allowd him to come up with the raja paraphenalia...etc... It allowed him to rebel against the Americans by sending the Right Wingers in the run things in America...starting in 1977 Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: Om for a Thousand Women
Form a thousand women chanting in Fairfield to counter-act the patriarchal vibration of the pundits? A most capable and immediate solution should be gathering a number of sidha women in the Domes who are already skillful and powerful at sanskrit recitation by years of movement training, practice and deep experience with it. Some any of them are proly worth any thousand pandit boys chanting. Only problem is if women organized against the old patriarchs they'd likely be ruled off the program (OTP) and out of the Domes as competing with TM products. Old leadership has its own coercive ways of dealing with uppity sidha women. From Lou Valentino From: LSoma@... [mailto:LSoma@...] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 12:39 AM To: LSoma@... Subject: Fwd: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America _ From: LSoma@... To: LSoma@... Sent: 8/2/2012 10:37:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America 08/03/2012 A special message to the Transcendental Meditation organization, the Fairfield Iowa community and leaders of religious and spiritual organizations worldwide, Over the past 10,000 years or so a patriarchal world has dominated the consciousness of humanity. Women have suffered greatly from this. Men have shown the world over and over again that they cannot create world peace based on a patriarchal system. A balance is necessary. As we move into astrological signatures to open up portals of light to eliminate small thinking, it is vital that everyone remain open to new ideas and implement them as soon as possible to avoid more pain and suffering in the family of humanity. Therefore, I am asking the Transcendental Meditation organization to immediately train 1,000 women to chant the Vedas to represent the female side of creation. This will soften the hard edges of ignorance that man has created for himself. The Transcendental Meditation organization, Catholic Church (Vatican) and the Brahman caste of India as well as many other religious organizations have cut off the female vibration of life. This creates imbalance in the subtle planes of existence and stress and strain are the result. War is still breaking out here and there like in Syria. The Fairfield community has let the ball drop at the mercy of the TMO. It is time to act instead of claiming everything is perfect the way it is. Therefore, I am asking that someone create a petition in Fairfield and get as many signatures as possible to have 1,000 women chanting the Vedas as soon as possible to create balance in the collective consciousness of the world. Someone: Start a petition that can be handed over to the leaders of the TMO. If they don't want to do this than someone there with some money can find a way to start the training. And, the women do not have to be just from India. Even if Mitt Romney does not pick a female VP and Hillary Clinton is still not by Barackâs side in this next election, the higher intelligence's of the universe will find a way to help bring in a softer energy. It is going to be a lot easier if she is invited to the dance. If she is not then hell could break loose over the next several months as the adjustments are being made from elsewhere than planet earth. The upcoming dates of August 26th as well as September 18th (Uranus square Pluto) shows a lot of stress will be released.Mark these dates on your calendars. From August 17th through October 1st just about anything is possible to pry open the doors of ignorance. To allow a balance of male and female energies. I am always available to talk as my phone is on the top of my webpage. Wishing everyone peace, joy, perfect health in your lives. Sincerely, Lou Valentino www.yogavisionaries.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Nablusoss writes: Question from german journalist in Vlodrop; Who are you ? Maharishi: I am an ordinary human being. Bevan: Tonight we got a new definition of the expression an ordinary human being Robin, do you believe the story from that lady to be the truthful ? Dear Nablusoss, As impossible as this is to believe according to our intuition, according to the experience most of us have had of Maharishi, I nevertheless am forced to conclude that Judith is telling us the truth. Nature, reality has presented Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to us in such a way as to make this perhaps the most terrible truth to comprehend of any that we have known--short of someone we love dying. Somehow reality has made it unbearable and absurd--and yet, and yet, Nablusoss, it is true. Maharishi (Who knows why really? Even the way Judith describes Maharishi advances upon her, he seems as if he could easily take it or leave it; he does not even approach Judith as if he has any lust in him at all. It is all so unfathomable for me, but I must accept the veracity of Judith's account because if you go through that book it is impossible she could be lying.) did love Judith in the way she has described. *Now what is also true is the conviction that this could not be true*. That is a very true experience, too, Nablusoss; and therefore those former TM initiators who gloat about this, who have contempt for Maharishi, and are unsparing in their ridicule of those who cannot accept that Judith Bourque is telling the truth, *this is a more false form of experience* than even the belief--in defiance of the truth--that Maharishi did not give away his physical integrity like this. Is this understandable to you, Nablusoss? What this means is that your refusal to believe Judith is a pure and innocent and profound experience--because there is nothing which reality presented to you or to me which would make us responsible for believing that Maharishi would be capable of surrendering himself to a woman through his feelings of physical desire. Thanks for the comment Robin For me Maharishi was and is spotless so I don't see why not. Having sex doesn't change ones state of consciousness in any fundamental way. As to what you quote here, it sounds suspiciously as if Maharishi is making a concealed confession here--I doubt Maharishi, say in 1973 at my Teacher-Training Course, would ever speak about himself as an ordinary human being--I am sure he would not. But in this question he has the opportunity to salve his conscience just a little, and what he say here amount to an equivocal preempting of the story he surely knew Judith Bourque would tell after his death. That could very well be true. The interview was made around 1990. Already at the beginning of Purusha Maharishi made it clear that we should be at the same level as him and be close friends, comrades in arms. He knew the kind of life we hade had prior to joining the group, still he wanted us to be friends. So, Nablusoss--and I hope you have followed what I have said here--I do believe that lady to be truthful'. But I also believe your disbelief itself is a more more 'truthful' experience than the mockery of this disbelief by those who cannot in any sense face the full moral and metaphysical complexity of this whole reality. Robin I follow you. But his status is not the least diminished if the story turns out to be true. I think the noise around this is an american thing. I've mentioned these rumours to some friends and the react as so what ? Remember Mitterand, the President of France ? He had two paralell families, everyone knew about it but nobody cared. Both his families turned up in his funeral as a perfectly normal thing to do. Maharishi was not a Sanyasin, and as far as I know made no wows of celibacy to anyone. He stoped using the title Bal Brahmachary already in the '50s and wore white, the colour of householders. He said he was a monk. A monk is someone who is selfsuffiscient, not dependent on anyone. He was only dependent on one thing; raising the worlds consciousness and fulfulling the vision of his Master. Perhaps he had sex, perhaps not. For me it's uninteresting. I know Rick will have all kinds of silly moral issues about that, but that is only because he is so close to perfection himself, so Divine and almost spotless in nature, so he has every moral right to scold anyone who does not live up to his ideas that sex is sinful and BAD. Apparently he sees sex as a very dirty affair indeed, particularily if you are a spiritual figure. I quite remember a fellow I know brought up the question of sex on weekend cources to Maharishi as if it was a very BAD thing. Maharishi scolded the idea of complaining about such activities on cources saying, from my memory; Sex is a natural
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
wgm4u: I haven't read the witch doctors book... The book by Judith is a very slim paperback, just 219 pages with about a dozen ripped-off photos, and really poor ones at that. Apparently Judith actually took only three photos of the Maharishi in the two years she was in the TMO. What is more interesting to me was the part about Ms Pittman and her position in the Maharishi's so-called 'inner circle'. How Judith got past Jemima and Nanda standing post at the MMY's front door in the middle of the night at a yoga camp in India is beyond me. Maybe Judith crawled in by the bathroom window, except MMY's house apparently didn't even have a bathroom. Go figure. There is one photo of the Maharishi sitting at a dinning room table with the inner circle that is really humorous though. He looks like a 'midget' compared to the others at the table. When I saw it my first thought was how in hell would someone as attractive as Judith want to be having sexual relations with a small guy like that, if you know what I mean. Power and prestige? Anyway, I do believe Judith was in love with the Maharishi and he may have been in love with her. But, the book is a big disappointment. Instead, I'd recommend the new book ($20.00) by Lola Willamson, a real scholar, who was a TM initiate and teacher, as well as an insider in Yogananda's Self Realization Fellowship, and the Siddha Yoga Org. Williamson's book makes Judith's account read like a sleazy tabloid bought at a grocery store check-out or a sidewaklk news-stand - not worth more than a dollar, tops! Work cited: 'Transcendent in America' By Lola Williamson New York University Press, 2010 260 pages. Illustrated. Notes. Index. Biblio. Amazon review: This truly outstanding book is a major contribution to the study of Hinduism, the study of religion in America, and the study of religion in general (particularly the field of comparative mysticism and the epistemology of religious experience). Williamson manages to combine empathy for her subject matter with scholarly rigor to produce a work that is not only intellectually engaging, but that also rings true for those of us who practice within Hindu-inspired meditation traditions... - Jeffery D. Long
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
Having sex doesn't change ones state of consciousness in any fundamental way. It does if you're doing it right. Just sayin'... :-) Doing it right does NOT include, in my view, what many TM guys did for many years. I watched their act on courses, and watched them make out like bandits *while pretending to be celibate*. The all-too-common ATR course pickup line was, Yes, I know the benefits of celibacy. Maharishi has explained this to us often, and it's reflected in most of the scriptures we read. But I'm just *so* attracted to you... The result would be a one-night stand with the female initiator who fell for this routine, after which the guy in question (often a member of International Staff) would blow them off, act all contrite and guilty, and then go back to pretending to be celibate. I watched one German International Staffer run this routine on five different women during one six-week mixed-gender ATR course. I can honestly say that I never resorted to this sad and dishonest pickup technique. I was open and honest about my...uh...non-celibate status, and even if I hadn't been, my reputation in the TMO preceded me. Early on, I had listened to a talk by Maharishi in which he had delineated the different ways of life for a spiritual seeker. In it, he said that the only two viable paths were that of the celibate recluse and the married householder. Anything else, he said, was a waste of life. I heard that line, and I relaxed. I finally knew which group I belonged to. I was in the Waste Of Life group. Little did I know at the time that he was, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I was in the Waste Of Life group. We know you have wasted your life and still obsess about things that happened more than 40 years ago Turq-boy. Rather, why not tell us something we do not know already ? :-)
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle; Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 5th August
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clint endorses the Mittiot
Bhairitu: Thinks the country needs a boost? After The Dark Knight, we already knew Batman was a Republican. In The Dark Knight Rises, this son of privilege who made a fortune in his own right stands up for free enterprise and individualism against the collectivist demagogues who stir up class warfare and vilify the wealthy... 'The 5 Most Politically Incorrect Ideas Smuggled into The Dark Knight Rises' http://tinyurl.com/d7ngmww
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Hi Judy, thanks for your comment and I agree. I find that the majority of people on FFL are interesting, insightful and balanced. And as with all wonderful buffets, there are the dishes that I have to avoid, given the limitations of my digestion (-: From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: This is testimony to the feminization of FFL that has taken place over the last few months. Four lady posters in the top six. I think that may be a first. Very interesting observation, feste. Also interesting who the two men are in the top six. ;-) And if anyone ever doubted that men and women are very, very different creatures, just look at the posting styles on this forum. In general (and of course there are exceptions to every rule) the men like to duke it out, all fire and ego, while the women pour balm on troubled waters and encourage one another in sisterhood. Most of the women here do both, actually (they don't duke it out with each other but with some of the men), and a few of the men do both as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 28 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 04 00:00:00 2012 592 messages as of (UTC) Fri Aug 03 23:54:46 2012 57 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ 44 Share Long sharelong60@ 44 Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ 43 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 33 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 31 authfriend jstein@ 27 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 26 wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com 26 Bhairitu noozguru@ 25 Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 23 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 23 Vaj vajradhatu@ 23 Robert babajii_99@ 20 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 18 iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 15 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 14 feste37 feste37@ 14 Rick Archer rick@ 13 sparaig LEnglish5@ 12 Richard J. Williams richard@ 8 John jr_esq@ 7 emptybill emptybill@ 6 marekreavis reavismarek@ 5 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 4 seventhray1 steve.sundur@ 3 raunchydog raunchydog@ 3 merlin vedamerlin@ 3 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 Susan wayback71@ 3 Dick Mays dickmays@ 2 wleed3 WLeed3@ 2 stevelf ysoy10li@ 2 salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 2 Yifu yifuxero@ 2 WLeed3@ 2 Richard richard@ 1 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 Seraphita s3raphita@ 1 JohnY john_youells@ 1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ Posters: 40 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dan Friedman
On Aug 5, 2012, at 1:50 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Mr Friedman, you vocabulary seems have undergone considerable attrition compared to earlier posts. Perhaps you should have a neurologist check you for brain damage, just as a precaution. If you lose any more words, you may be mute for the rest of your life. Remember, this is the same guy who started out at Fairfield Life trying to find out the real identities of posters he didn't like. At the time, folks suspected he might have intended to do them harm. It's good to know that instead he probably just wanted to yell at them like a crazy person. This must be what TMers mean when they use the word coherence. :-) Maybe evidence for higher states of consciousness?
[FairfieldLife] Fair And Balanced reporting on gay issues
Trying to cater to both the homophobes and the human beings on FFL, I present one article for each. The first is for those fearful of gays, and provides a hint as to how to determine whether someone of the WRONG sex is attracted to you. Of course, to use this technique, you have to get close enough to them to gaze deeply into their eyes. :-) Whether you're gay, straight or somewhere else on the spectrum, the truth of who attracts you could be in your eyes. Pupil dilation is an accurate indicator of sexual orientation, a new study finds. When people look at erotic images and become aroused http://www.livescience.com/19755-porn-shut-visual-brain.html , their pupils open up in an unconscious reaction that could be used to study orientation and arousal without invasive genital measurements. The new study is first large-scale experiment to show that pupil dilation matches what people report feeling turned on by, said study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a developmental psychologist at Cornell University. So if a man says he's straight, his eyes are dilating towards women, Savin-Williams told LiveScience. And the opposite with gay men http://www.livescience.com/20360-sexual-orientation-visible-face.html , their eyes are dilating to men. More at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/sexual-orientation-eyes-reveal-\ straight-gay_n_1740315.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/sexual-orientation-eyes-reveal\ -straight-gay_n_1740315.html For those less with less of a...uh...stick up their butts about sexual preference, here's what the larger city a few kilometers away from me was up to this weekend. Amsterdam Gay Pride Draws Revelers To The City's Canals [Amsterdam Gay Pride] AMSTERDAM Hundreds of thousands of gay rights supporters thronged Amsterdam's canals for the city's annual boat float parade, a party marking the high point of Gay Pride week. The event features gay, lesbian and transgender people, many of them scantily-clad, dancing to music on elaborate boat-floats with onlookers cheering them on. This year, Dutch homosexuals of Turkish ancestry had their own float, a first. One massive muscle-bound man on the boat swung a big black sign reading Turkish, Dutch, Netherlander and Proud. The ancient Westerkerk the church with bells that once comforted Anne Frank while she was in hiding from the Nazis has been draped in the rainbow flag that has become a symbol of tolerance and the gay rights movement. Actual homosexual police in uniform joined countless imitators many with cliche fake mustaches, handcuffs and leather hats with their own boat. The boat parade is primarily an exuberant party, one of the biggest festivals of the year in Amsterdam, but the week's program also retains serious elements. Dutch people overwhelmingly support equal rights for gays, and the country became the world's first to fully sanction gay marriages in April 2001.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you’re posing that he was suicidal?
[FairfieldLife] Total Recall and Americas false-memory syndrome
I am not normally a fan of Salon.com's movie critic, Andrew O'Hehir. I disagree with him about most movies that we see and review. But every so often he breaks out of mediocrity and takes a chance and, like Roger Ebert, utilizes the medium of film criticism as a mechanism for social criticism. This is one of those times. Total Recall and America's false-memory syndrome http://www.salon.com/2012/08/04/total_recall_and_americas_false_memory_\ syndrome/ Do we know who we really are? The 2012 election is a Philip K. Dick showdown between dueling American fantasies By Andrew O'Hehir http://www.salon.com/writer/andrew_ohehir/ [http://media.salon.com/2012/08/recall_amnesia2_rect-460x307.jpg] Every variety of nationalism, in every country in the world, involves some degree of invention, imagination and amnesia, standing in for actual history. Most scholars of Balkan history will tell you that the supposedly ancient enmity between Serbs, Croats and Muslims that led to the terrible civil war of the 1990s the first serious outbreak of genocidal violence in Europe since the Holocaust was a modern invention, deliberately inflamed by political leaders. Along with the even worse conflict in Rwanda between the Hutu and Tutsi, two groups indistinguishable to outsiders, this offered a gruesome example of what historian Benedict Anderson has called imagined community, the shared sense of a tribal or national identity that runs deep and links unconnected strangers together, even if it was actually concocted the day before yesterday. So Americans are not unique when it comes to our ambivalent or hostile relationship to history, our preference for simplistic myth-making over the unsettled and perennially conflicted character of the past. Given our nation's short and bloody history and the fact that there's so much of it we'd rather not think about it's possible that we suffer from an exaggerated version of this syndrome. Whether or not that's true, in this historical moment we face an especially stark choice between different versions of the American imagined community, which is what I believe accounts for the poisonous character of this presidential campaign. Whatever about the actual differences between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney which I would argue are minor, in the bigger picture their supporters see them as embodying different visions of the nation, both of which are notional or imaginary. One of them promises a renewal of the past, although it's a past that never existed in the first place and one he certainly cannot recreate. The other seems to represent a more inclusive and optimistic future, or at least he used to. Given prevailing cultural and economic realities it's a future well beyond his capacity (or anybody else's) to will into existence. This week's new Hollywood remake of the science-fiction classic Total Recall http://http://www.salon.com/2012/08/02/total_recall_a_sci_fi_classic_re\ loaded is more concerned with Colin Farrell's muscular frame and its exaggerated stunts and effects than with political allegory. But like the Arnold Schwarzenegger original from 1990, it draws its source material from Philip K. Dick's famous science-fiction story We Can Remember It for You Wholesale, which can absolutely be read as a loaded commentary on our understanding of history, or lack thereof. Farrell plays a factory worker who builds robot soldiers in a ruined, totalitarian future society, until he is thrust into an endless loop of epistemological doubt, where he can't be sure who he really is or what he really knows about himself or the world. He may be a highly trained secret agent, or he may have an implanted false memory to that effect. Furthermore, if he is an undercover ninja assassin, he doesn't know whether he works for the nefarious one-world government or the underground resistance. America as a whole finds itself in a similar position, uncertain about the basic facts of its own history, let alone what lessons to draw from them and whether or not it's truly on the side of the angels. That goes double, I think, for America's declining white majority, which simultaneously feels itself embattled and undermined even as it still holds a grotesquely disproportionate share of power, money and privilege. This is among the principal themes of my Salon colleague Joan Walsh's upcoming book What's the Matter With White People?, http://www.amazon.com/dp/1118141067/?tag=saloncom08-20 which is certain to provoke much discussion as the campaign season heats up. To paraphrase her argument into my own terms (which she may not entirely agree with), Walsh sees the contemporary Tea Party-aligned right wing as the latest manifestation of an enduring ideological current in American politics that appeals to a harmonious, godly and racially coded vision of the past. In our day, that means the
[FairfieldLife] Fw: spirit matter split in us all
I'm remembering pictures I've seen of temples in Asia with beautiful ornaments and statues depicting Shiva and Shakti in passionate embrace. And realizing that we don't have such in western culture. I think it indicates the spirit matter split that has been happening in humanity for a long time. Of course this split shows up in all sorts of sexual matters. For example, we rightly jail pedophiles. Meanwhile, 6 yr old girls participate in beauty pageants. I'm not saying to outlaw the latter. I'm just saying it is an expression, albeit not obvious, of that split in us about such matters. If the sexual intimacy occurs between two consenting people over age 17, perhaps it's healthiest to deal with one's upset about it by healing one's own sexuality. And even deeper, one's own spirit matter split. Only then can a person begin to accurately assess what is going on between two consensual adults. Nablusoss, I very much appreciate your more universal perspective on all this. And all the beautiful crop circles too. You too, Robert. I appreciated some of your comments about all this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] “Total Recall” and America’s false-memory syndrome
On 08/05/2012 08:18 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I am not normally a fan of Salon.com's movie critic, Andrew O'Hehir. I disagree with him about most movies that we see and review. But every so often he breaks out of mediocrity and takes a chance and, like Roger Ebert, utilizes the medium of film criticism as a mechanism for social criticism. This is one of those times. Total Recall and America's false-memory syndrome http://www.salon.com/2012/08/04/total_recall_and_americas_false_memory_\ syndrome/ Do we know who we really are? The 2012 election is a Philip K. Dick showdown between dueling American fantasies By Andrew O'Hehir http://www.salon.com/writer/andrew_ohehir/ [http://media.salon.com/2012/08/recall_amnesia2_rect-460x307.jpg] Every variety of nationalism, in every country in the world, involves some degree of invention, imagination and amnesia, standing in for actual history. Most scholars of Balkan history will tell you that the supposedly ancient enmity between Serbs, Croats and Muslims that led to the terrible civil war of the 1990s – the first serious outbreak of genocidal violence in Europe since the Holocaust – was a modern invention, deliberately inflamed by political leaders. Along with the even worse conflict in Rwanda between the Hutu and Tutsi, two groups indistinguishable to outsiders, this offered a gruesome example of what historian Benedict Anderson has called imagined community, the shared sense of a tribal or national identity that runs deep and links unconnected strangers together, even if it was actually concocted the day before yesterday. So Americans are not unique when it comes to our ambivalent or hostile relationship to history, our preference for simplistic myth-making over the unsettled and perennially conflicted character of the past. Given our nation's short and bloody history – and the fact that there's so much of it we'd rather not think about – it's possible that we suffer from an exaggerated version of this syndrome. Whether or not that's true, in this historical moment we face an especially stark choice between different versions of the American imagined community, which is what I believe accounts for the poisonous character of this presidential campaign. Whatever about the actual differences between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney – which I would argue are minor, in the bigger picture – their supporters see them as embodying different visions of the nation, both of which are notional or imaginary. One of them promises a renewal of the past, although it's a past that never existed in the first place and one he certainly cannot recreate. The other seems to represent a more inclusive and optimistic future, or at least he used to. Given prevailing cultural and economic realities it's a future well beyond his capacity (or anybody else's) to will into existence. This week's new Hollywood remake of the science-fiction classic Total Recall http://http://www.salon.com/2012/08/02/total_recall_a_sci_fi_classic_re\ loaded is more concerned with Colin Farrell's muscular frame and its exaggerated stunts and effects than with political allegory. But like the Arnold Schwarzenegger original from 1990, it draws its source material from Philip K. Dick's famous science-fiction story We Can Remember It for You Wholesale, which can absolutely be read as a loaded commentary on our understanding of history, or lack thereof. Farrell plays a factory worker who builds robot soldiers in a ruined, totalitarian future society, until he is thrust into an endless loop of epistemological doubt, where he can't be sure who he really is or what he really knows about himself or the world. He may be a highly trained secret agent, or he may have an implanted false memory to that effect. Furthermore, if he is an undercover ninja assassin, he doesn't know whether he works for the nefarious one-world government or the underground resistance. America as a whole finds itself in a similar position, uncertain about the basic facts of its own history, let alone what lessons to draw from them and whether or not it's truly on the side of the angels. That goes double, I think, for America's declining white majority, which simultaneously feels itself embattled and undermined even as it still holds a grotesquely disproportionate share of power, money and privilege. This is among the principal themes of my Salon colleague Joan Walsh's upcoming book What's the Matter With White People?, http://www.amazon.com/dp/1118141067/?tag=saloncom08-20 which is certain to provoke much discussion as the campaign season heats up. To paraphrase her argument into my own terms (which she may not entirely agree with), Walsh sees the contemporary Tea Party-aligned right wing as the latest manifestation of an enduring ideological current in American politics that appeals to a harmonious,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: [Vaj wrote:] I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you're posing that he was suicidal? I believe Lawson was suggesting that TWB may not have cared if he was murdered. looking up at what Lawson wrote Yep, that's what he said, all right. As in, not attached to embodiment. Wonder how Vaj got from that to suicidal. Actually, no, I don't wonder. It was just a matter of finding a way of trying to plant in the minds of readers who aren't aware of Vaj's penchant for malicious dishonesty that Lawson is a foolish person.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Flash crashes
On 08/05/2012 12:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: BTW, I wanted to thank those who proposed solutions for the problems I've been having with Adobe Flash. Finally my brother discovered one fix that worked, so now I can watch videos on YouTube and other sources without crashing my computer dead: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-113-crashes To fix the problem, you pretty much have to uninstall Flash 11.3 and backtrack all the way back to 10.3, the last known stable version of Flash. It's pretty fascinating to look this problem up on Google. There are literally *thousands* of bug reports from angry customers out there, and so far Adobe has shown no signs of either being able to find out what the problem is or fix it. In fact, up until recently they've been fairly consistent in claiming that it's somebody else's fault. It's like an object lesson in How *Not* To Run A Software Company. I now understand completely why Apple didn't want to provide support for Flash in its mobile OS's. It would have meant exposing its customers to constant crashes and problems caused by Adobe. There's been a little war going on in the background. HTML5 doesn't need Flash and Google bought On2's technology to replace Flash and h264 (MP4) with open source. Of course MPEG-LA (LA = Licensing Authority) claims it would be impossible for a video codec to not violate one of its patents. IOW, they hold a bunch of patents that should have never been granted in the first place. These days we are seeing constant wars because some companies won't innovate any longer but just sue. Maybe we don't need a revolution to fix things as the big corporations may just kill themselves off with their escalating wars with each other. The big one right now is Apple vs Samsung. Most of us in the tech industry know that Apple is claiming things that should have never been patentable. But for the last thirty years, ever since some patent attorney for some tech company figured out that the Patent Office was clueless when it came to computer code they've gamed patents. And of course don't get me started on copyrights. No way should a copy right be good for the life of the author plus 50 years. It had nothing to do with individual author's rights but big corprica (Disney) wanting to sell every generation over and over again their animated shit. Otherwise all those animated classics from the 30's, 40's and 50's would be in the Public Domain and gee they might have to actually do some work to make some money. Now I see that DVDs not only have the FBI warning but some new International organization for Intellectual property with it's shield but also a Homeland Security shield and warning. Tip to the Hollywood monkeys, entertainment has NEVER been a sure deal and treating your customers like shit is not going to make it so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Question to FFLers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: This question has been posed before, by numerous people, Actually it's Barry who regularly poses it. I don't recall anyone else doing so, but I could be wrong. but I don't remember it ever being dealt with in any depth, or with any real honesty, so I'm posing it again: If you believe that Maharishi was enlightened (in at least Cosmic Consciousness as he defined it, let alone Unity Consciousness as he defined it), WHY do you believe this? What Barry means by depth and real honesty is agreement with him that MMY wasn't enlightened. My memory is different. I remember that some folks did indeed agree with him, and that the discussions were in considerable depth on both sides of the question (and in the middle--i.e., agnostic--as well). The real reason Barry poses the question, of course, is to give himself and those who agree with him an opportunity to dump on those who disagree. Apparently he's feeling the need for such an opportunity again. I ask because, try as I might I never once, in all the years I studied with him and was around him, heard Maharishi claim to be enlightened. Not once. I have met or encountered on the Internet *many* people whose experience was the same as mine; they cannot think of a single occasion on which he actually claimed to be in any higher state of consciousness. Actually this is most likely because he never did, so it would be surprising if anyone Barry had met or encountered on the Internet had reported having a different experience. (I guess you could call never having heard MMY claim to be enlightened an experience, but that's a rather odd way to put it.) Of course, that MMY never made the claim is a complete red herring with regard to the issue of whether he was enlightened. It isn't clear why Barry even mentions it, as if it somehow meant the weight of evidence was on his side. Oh, never mind, that's *why* he mentioned it. And yet, day after day we hear people talking on this and other forums as if Maharishi's enlightenment could be *assumed*, that it's a Done Deal, and a fact. Do we actually hear this day after day? It does come up occasionally, but I wonder whether day after day might not be a bit of hyperbole, perhaps designed to make the issue sound more urgent. They stake their entire reputations on this. Now, this is interesting. Can anybody think of an example of someone staking their entire reputations on the assumption that MMY was enlightened? (Reputations for what? Do we know of people who have a reputation for being able to determine whether a person is enlightened?) Or is this assertion yet another example of Barry's dependence on empty filler, material that is written to sound impressive and significant but whose putative meaning evaporates when examined closely? I'm wondering WHY. I'm guessing Barry has heard the vast majority of reasons that have been advanced for why folks believe MMY was enlightened. But perhaps he's forgotten them, just as he seems to have forgotten that he's ever asked the question before. If you're one of these people, convinced that Maharishi was enlightened, could you possibly explain WHY you feel this way? Thanks in advance... Translation: Thanks in advance for making yourself a target for the putdowns I so desperately need to be able to deliver.
Re: Fw: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Barry wrote in reference to this post and Dan: You've got to give him credit. No one else even tried. :-) Share's reply: I did. Share, I think you have the wrong post in mind. Here Barry was referring to what he considers the shameful paucity of reports from FFLers of spiritual experiences in their day-to-day lives (such as those Barry has when he sees a hot woman walking down the street): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316172 Most of us will recognize in this post Barry's standard dual motivation: to exalt his own spirituality and to put down the spirituality of others, especially those whom he doesn't like (easy to discern the target in this case). Bottom line, yes, he's ignoring your response to the question of whether MMY was enlightened, but in this post referring to Dan he was citing the lack of response to his later question, as noted. Most likely if you post a response to that one, however, he'll ignore it as well. ;-) - Forwarded Message - From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers  Good morning TurqB and thank you for asking this question. In the spirit of the Byron Katie question, Can you absolutely know that's true, I don't know if Maharishi was enlightened. btw, I have yet to find a situation in which I can answer yes to that BK question. Not a single one. And I also experience what I call knowingness which is more than intellectual knowledge and includes intuition as well as instinctual, bodily and emotional intelligence. This intuitive knowingness is what I experienced when I attended the TM intro lecture. I knew that it was what I had been seeking. And so I started TM the weekend before the Merv Griffin Show. 37 years later and between 5 and 10 programs total missed due to travel and or illness, and this intuitive knowing is still what keeps me on this path. As I've shared here before, I have investigated many other systems. I no longer look to the TMO for my emotional healing tho I do experience it as the foundation for my emotional development. By which I mean I don't think the other stuff would work as well as it has if I hadn't been doing TMSP. Which also gets a lot of credit for developing my intuitive knowing.   When I left MUM 10 years ago to seek the emotional healing I needed, I was at peace with TMO. I had come to know that TMO is in the relative, thus best not to expect it to be perfect. Since then I have come to understand about internal dysfunctional families and how they are reflected in any and all groups one might join. Of course the leader of any such group would be a reflection of one's inner father. Both positive and negative projections leftover from childhood will be put on this person. Best to be conscious about such projections. Also as stated before, I am not a TM gov so don't have that particular bond with Maharishi. But I continue with TMSP and I continue to deeply resonate with Maharishi's explanations about consciousness, etc. That is more than enough for me. Hope this helps. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 5:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers  This question has been posed before, by numerous people, but I don't remember it ever being dealt with in any depth, or with any real honesty, so I'm posing it again: If you believe that Maharishi was enlightened (in at least Cosmic Consciousness as he defined it, let alone Unity Consciousness as he defined it), WHY do you believe this? I ask because, try as I might I never once, in all the years I studied with him and was around him, heard Maharishi claim to be enlightened. Not once. I have met or encountered on the Internet *many* people whose experience was the same as mine; they cannot think of a single occasion on which he actually claimed to be in any higher state of consciousness. And yet, day after day we hear people talking on this and other forums as if Maharishi's enlightenment could be *assumed*, that it's a Done Deal, and a fact. They stake their entire reputations on this. I'm wondering WHY. If you're one of these people, convinced that Maharishi was enlightened, could you possibly explain WHY you feel this way? Thanks in advance...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
Raunchy wrote: Gee, sure wish she could train in Des Moines. It's two hours from Fairfield and super expensive. The only way to train there is to live there. Hi Raunchy, I've noticed that these sattvic kids have incredible support of nature. Anything is possible for them. I know of one FF family whose daughter loved Irish step dancing. There was a famous teacher of it in Chicago. But somehow it all worked out and the daughter ended up training with that teacher on a weekly basis. Anything is possible. Share From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028 Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas. Here ya go, Ann. NBC has videos of many events as well as live streaming. Hester is masterful, Uthopia is a gorgeous horse from head to tail. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/equestrian/highlights-carl-hesters-individual-dressage-ride.html I'm on vacation in Michigan, just north of Oscoda on Lake Huron, haven't posted much. I've been taking long walks on the shore, toes in sugar sand, enjoying a nice breeze coming off the lake, just relaxing and visiting family. In the evening I've had eyes glued to the Olympics, women's gymnastics, swimming and beach volleyball. All glory to gymnast, Gabby Douglas! Fabulous! Only 4'11, just a little bit of a thing, but, oh what a powerhouse. She won gold for Women's All Round. Number one and best in the world. Gabby trains in West Des Moines, Iowa. My granddaughter, a budding gymnast, love-love-loves her! Here's Gabby's winning Floor Exercise: http://www.nbcolympics.com/wthr/video/gymnastics/highlight-gabby-douglas-floor-exercise-in-all-around-final.html The precision and years of training required of a gymnast is every bit as demanding as it is for dressage, both exquisitely beautiful and thrilling to watch. Dear Raunchydog, So glad there is some FFL poster who is watching the Olympics and saw the glorious performance of the irreisistible and celestially bouncing Gabby Douglas--what a beautiful creature she is. There is no form of athletics which asks so much as does gymnastics does--not even the Decathlon. I like that someone in the world felt the sensations that I did in watching Gabby's individual performance--and would communicate this on FFL. Does this mean that your granddaughter knows and trains in the same facility as does Gabby Douglas? Gee, sure wish she could train in Des Moines. It's two hours from Fairfield and super expensive. The only way to train there is to live there. Gabby moved there from her family in Virginia Beach when she was only 14 years old. Juliette isn't at that level of performance yet, someday maybe. She's currently training four days a week in Fairfield. It's quite enough for now. Gymnastics has been a wonderful self-confidence builder for her. She works hard and is progressing nicely. We just hope she stays motivated enough to get a collage scholarship. Her first intra-team competition was two weeks ago. She won 1st All Around, 1st Uneven Bars, 1st Beam, 2nd Vault and 2nd Floor Exercise. Beam video: http://youtu.be/lNdWwl4oYpo As you can see the Fairfield Parks and Rec gym where she trains is way too small. Considering the limitations of the facility, I give her coach a lot of credit for starting from scratch with just a few beginners and developing their skills as well as he has. Links to more videos and team pictures are on Facebook: Gymnastics Fans of Fairfield Iowa. Well, I will remember you tonight, Raunchydog, when I watch the NBC coverage. Bob Costas, the Jesus Christ of sports announcers, I figure. But all the NBC colour commentators--for swimming, for gymnastics, for volleyball--they are all superb. We might, here on FFL, have the basis of a water polo team--you know: all that blood in the water left after the Hungary and Soviet Union match in 1956. But Share refuses to pull anyone under the water and smash at them with her fists. The rest of us know the rules of water polo and play the game as hard as it has to be played here in the FFL pool. To be an Olympian, might be the best experience anyone can have of physical achievement--and something well beyond that.. Did you see those US women eights row to victory yesterday? The Olympics in London, there has never been anything like it. And the highlight for me is the performance of the US Fab Five--and Gabby
[FairfieldLife] Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy
But he won't say what it is for the time being. IMO, it's the same old tax cut for everyone. While it sounds good on paper, the country will bear more debt burden to run the government. http://news.yahoo.com/romney-wants-something-dramatic-aid-economy-130451788.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy
On 08/05/2012 12:00 PM, John wrote: But he won't say what it is for the time being. IMO, it's the same old tax cut for everyone. While it sounds good on paper, the country will bear more debt burden to run the government. http://news.yahoo.com/romney-wants-something-dramatic-aid-economy-130451788.html That's because he doesn't know what to do. Is he an economist? No. He's bluffing just to get the vote. Such bullshit! Otherwise he might be plotting to suspend the Constitution, end Congress and make the US a corporate state. IOW, corporate communism. Some of us are wondering why DHS has posted bids for riot gear they believe they need and need it soon. Some think it is for the conventions but I'm betting it might a prediction of the dollar collapsing soon. Or food riots this fall. Note how the press pushes the drought and coming food shortage off the front pages. It's , no, no, look over here, see the Olympics. Bread and circuses (maybe lacking the bread though).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
On Aug 4, 2012, at 7:52 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: That's a pretty incredible story. Are you implying this was Mahesh or was it some other yogi? Some other yogi. MMY loved TWB, and was in Switzerland when he was murdered. The news came as quite a shock to him. Rick, you just spoiled Vaj's day! Someone has to be still thinking in terms of “all possibilities” Feste...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Mr Friedman, you vocabulary seems have undergone considerable attrition compared to earlier posts. Perhaps you should have a neurologist check you for brain damage, just as a precaution. If you lose any more words, you may be mute for the rest of your life. As I've pointed out, the person who posted the obscenities was almost certainly not the Dan Friedman who used to post to FFL. Remember, this is the same guy who started out at Fairfield Life trying to find out the real identities of posters he didn't like. At the time, folks suspected he might have intended to do them harm. This is not true. Barry's lying. Some readers may recall that in fact it was Barry who tried to find out the real identity of Dan Friedman. He fouled up pretty badly, mistakenly accusing Dan of being a woman, then lied about how he had fouled up. He was finally forced to admit his errors but never apologized to Dan. If anyone wants to check up on this, here's the list of posts in that thread (start from the Last (i.e., earliest) post and read forward (you can skip the final few between Barry and Bhairitu): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?ST=Latest+hilarious+update+o\ n+the+%22danfriedman%22+debacleSM=containspos=0cnt=10 http://tinyurl.com/barryanddan Barry tried to drive Dan off when he first started posting here, was unsuccessful, and has held a grudge against him ever since. It's good to know that instead he probably just wanted to yell at them like a crazy person. This must be what TMers mean when they use the word coherence. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle; Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 5th August
I thought the previous circles indicated the ETs were due any moment. This is such a letdown. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Milk Hill (2), nr Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 5th August. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Sunday 5th August 2012 AERIAL SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/milkhill2012b.html GROUND SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/groundshots.html DIAGRAMS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/diagrams.html FIELD REPORTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/fieldreports.html COMMENTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/comments.html ARTICLES http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill2/articles.html 05/08/12 05/08/12 05/08/12 05/08/12 05/08/12 05/08/12 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scie\ ntific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall Discuss this circle on our Facebook Crop Circles-UFO's-Ancient Mysteries-Scientific Speculations https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scie\ ntific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall http://www.cccvault.co.uk/cccvideos/2010/trailer2010z.html CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD http://www.cccvault.co.uk/cccvideos/2010/trailer2010z.html Images John Storr Copyright 2012
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Robin's Message 315852 Robin sez: Because, you see, emptybill, my intentions here on FFL, they are far more morally driven than your disgust and aversion to what I am doing. Emptybill sez: No disgust, no aversion not even disquiet. Admiration rather, since now I understand. You are just displaying your performance art - although seemingly bereft of quietude or contemplation. In truth, you appear as the blessed bitch of your totem-daimon, like a good and dutiful servant. Why you must certainly see your performances as confessional addendums to Truly, truly, I say unto thee . Aren't they literal prayers to have your efforts recognized as deserving? Robin sez: You don't like it and would have me acting perhaps as a more antic version of Lear's Foolor the cosmic harlequin whose nimble acrobatics are to seduce some would-be inamorato. Emptybill sez: Oh not so, not so. (See footnote 1) Robin: I conceive of acting in lovehowever differently it is perceived by you and a strong contingent of critics sympathetic to what you have said here. Emptybill sez: Isn't this the mark of Plato's true lover? Or is it rather the stamp of a Platonic motherfucker a lost soul coupling with prima materia? Isn't the Dark Lord a better lover of your deity than you? (See note 2) Robin sez: I will assume, however, that in having done so you will go about the rest of your day satisfied you have struck a blow for truthwhether your own truth, the truth of the Self, or the truth of something even higher. Emptybill sez: Contrary to you, I consider subjectivity as a human invariant but not a proof for an invariant personal identity. I have seen enough of my most recent past lifetime (along with other ones) to examine its workings, achievements and deceptions. (see note 3) Robin sez: I am sure, however, as I sit in this Starbucks, that were you able to join me, we might have some great conversation. I am nicer in person than I am on this forum. Emptybill sez: Yep, it would probably be worth our time around the table. However, I would chose something other than Starbucks fare. I rather think Woodford's Select Kentucky Bourbon would better fluidize the wheels of conversation. It might even warm the ontological heart of a Northern man. This universe is a stream of unbroken perceptions of Brahman. In all respects, it is nothing but Brahman. In all conditions, see Brahman with inner vision and a peaceful mind. As those with eyes see forms all around, thus the knowers of Brahman see nothing other than Brahman. Adi Shankara, Vivekachudamini, verse 522 1 This point is carefully explained in my pseudonymous book - Slavery is the Highest Enlightenment: the story of Om. by Anarkhia Sophos, Hierodule Publications, 2009 ed. 2 One tradition says: We are true the others false or we are esoteric the others are exoteric - yet the other traditions claim the opposite. Perhaps they should just fight each other unto oblivion to establish domination like the fierce battles between jews and muslims or christians and muslims. After all, this is what Shakti does she dances this Lila for the entertainment of her Lord. This is why yogins claim that all bhoga comes from bhaga all experience comes from a vagina. So can we genuinely claim this or is it rather that all pleasure and pain comes from a vagina? Which brings up another point about yoga. According to the Samkhya-Yoga synthesis, the procreatrix (prakriti) dances for her spectator (drishta) and will continue until she feels she is adequately seen and appreciated. Only then will she retire her dance and take a rest. Isn't that good ol' tricky trixy for you. Always on stage. Hmm sound familiar? Likewise, for those traditions that worship Vishnu only, in reality there is only one Purusha (literally the male). He is Narayana, Vishnu, Krishna and everything else is the opposite of him. Therefore, a soul is always female (a yoni-jiva). That means we are all yoni-s without regard to our physical gender. That also means we are all yoni-s or receptacles waiting to be filled with god's creative and procreative effluence. In Western parlance, we call this effluence seminal-raisons or logoi-spermatikoi. Thus: Conclusion 1: All meditation/contemplation/prayer is only about ultimate divine union because females such as we (the yoni-jivas) can never be satisfied by anything other than a god. Conclusion 2: Tantra, such as Gurudev performed to worship Shri Lakshmi, is a form of noetic and yogic etiquette defining the right view and right conduct towards the goddess-powers (devi-shaktis) who manifest and actualize this whole cosmos. Conclusion 3: we are all a bunch of pussies waiting to be filled by a god. Finis: This explains why I am bitch-slapped daily by the guna-s of Trixy the procreatrix to keep me in my place. This would also explain the high-indifference of god/gods to the sufferings in this world. Or as his eminence the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you're posing that he was suicidal? WTF!? Oh, well, shucks... :D
[FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa
It could be millions of years old. If true, who were they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: I quite remember a fellow I know brought up the question of sex on weekend cources to Maharishi as if it was a very BAD thing. Maharishi scolded the idea of complaining about such activities on cources saying, from my memory; Sex is a natural thing. People react in a negative way because their Christian upbringing since childhood have made them to believe it is a sin. Oh yeah! Rgveda IX 112 (part): shepo romaNvantau bhedau vArin maNDUka ichatIndrAyendo pari srava (shepaH; romaNvantau bhedau [...] ichati [...] : c*ck [a] hairy-m cvnt-um [...] wants [...])
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle; Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 5th August
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelson nelsonriddle2001@... wrote: There is plenty of time. The Olympics is still going on and 21. December is months away.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
On Aug 5, 2012, at 5:40 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you're posing that he was suicidal? WTF!? Oh, well, shucks... :D Well if he had actual (not alleged) foreknowledge, his preciousness as a yogi could have benefitted more beings had he lived longer, so therefore ignoring that reality, one would be in effect, be committing suicide not only for oneself, but for those who could have benefitted from his life, had he lived. It would be, in more Hindu terms, as if he ignored those enmired in samsara - for his own karmic benefit or escape. Magnified consciousness does come with magnified responsibilities, no? But I suspect the story relayed here has more to do with post hoc inventions of his disciples than TWB himself...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Icaria, an Iowa Utopia
Is interesting that some core Icarian groups were rooted enough in the founding principles that they jettisoned the founder (Cabet) even while he lived and then groups lived on as communal Icarians for several more decades. In the very end it seems there were a few old conservatives who were of the founding generation or knew the founding generation and then the younger and some newer members not raised-up by experience in the founding experience who then agitated as they came to it for change within. It's another good example of how it can go with the loss of group shakti in time to stale organization and doctrine. Icaria. Interesting life-cycle of a utopian group, w/ principles becoming dogma and rigid personalities in the middle of its own 'in the here and now' by comparison, Icaria in Iowa: http://www.past2present.org/own/annalsonline/AdamsCo/A1867April_Icaria.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses? Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into Judith Bourque and a number of other women. If you're looking for a tortured soul, it seems to me that it would be the person who did this while claiming to be celibate. Actually, I've discovered at least one public interview from teh late 60's where MMY left it ambiguous what his status was and what he felt about the subject. I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). OTOH, it is entirely possible that his obsession with celibacy for purusha was his own guilt-feelings coming to the surface. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ganapati Sthapati dead
We will be approaching the anniversary of the death of my teacher of Vaastu Shastras next month- Dr. V. Ganapati Sthapati. Each January I would visit Sthapati in Chennai and study with him. Without fail later in the month I would walk into his office and he would be speaking on the phone with Maharishi who had just called Sthapati the moment before I walked in. It was uncanny. Even nearing the last year of his life Maharishi would call him. It was really wonderful to listen to these two men speak together. They both had the same goal: the well being of humanity. Sthapati's family is one of the oldest living families who have passed down Vaastu Shastras in its purity for several thousand years. I miss Sthapati and Maharishi. Two of the greatest beings of our times. Thanks for making the below post last year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: He was given the highest honor from Maharishi as the greatest living authority but they did not work together much and their systems of Vaastu differ in some respects. Here is an interview in which he credits Vaastu with prolonging his life beyond what was predicted by Jyotish. http://www.sify.com/news/i-escaped-death-because-of-vaastu-ganapati-sthapati-news-features-jixmfkhcdae.html Everything you see I owe to spaghetti. Sophie Loren What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate. A pound a day often. Katharine Hepburn
[FairfieldLife] Re: Icaria, an Iowa Utopia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Is interesting that some core Icarian groups were rooted enough in the founding principles that they jettisoned the founder (Cabet) even while he lived and then groups lived on as communal Icarians for several more decades. In the very end it seems there were a few old conservatives who were of the founding generation or knew the founding generation and then the younger and some newer members not raised-up by experience in the founding experience who then agitated as they came to it for change within. It's another good example of how it can go with the loss of group shakti in time to stale organization and doctrine. A 1972 Annals of Iowa paper on Icaria looks more at the cause of dissolution, ...20 months ago, in April 1876, a demand for separation was presented by the young progressive party to the old conservative one. ... It is noteworthy that this letter assigns the cause of the trouble to ...an old leaven of enmity which was brought from Nauvoo. ... The letter then goes on to describe, in detail, the conditions at Icaria as a result of the Young and Old Branches, as they were termed. In April 1876 the Young Branch demanded the dissolution of the community. In doing so they laid the blame for the trouble on Cabet, One author characterized the old group as follows: The struggle for survival had made them conservatives, instinctively turning their backs on the world. The next document of importance... This document states that the basis of the division lies, not in the history of the movement, but in the divergent ideals of the two groups. Wow, does that sound familiar. Icaria. Interesting life-cycle of a utopian group, w/ principles becoming dogma and rigid personalities in the middle of its own 'in the here and now' by comparison, Icaria in Iowa: http://www.past2present.org/own/annalsonline/AdamsCo/A1867April_Icaria.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [Vaj wrote:] I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you're posing that he was suicidal? I believe Lawson was suggesting that TWB may not have cared if he was murdered. looking up at what Lawson wrote Yep, that's what he said, all right. As in, not attached to embodiment. Wonder how Vaj got from that to suicidal. Actually, no, I don't wonder. It was just a matter of finding a way of trying to plant in the minds of readers who aren't aware of Vaj's penchant for malicious dishonesty that Lawson is a foolish person. Well, I *am* a foolish person, but I simply ignored Vaj's followup... L (foolish, but not THAT foolish)
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa
Oh that's BS. Lucy carved that as a practicle joke. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa It could be millions of years old. If true, who were they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque On Aug 5, 2012, at 5:40 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you're posing that he was suicidal? WTF!? Oh, well, shucks... :D Well if he had actual (not alleged) foreknowledge, his preciousness as a yogi could have benefitted more beings had he lived longer, so therefore ignoring that reality, one would be in effect, be committing suicide not only for oneself, but for those who could have benefitted from his life, had he lived. It would be, in more Hindu terms, as if he ignored those enmired in samsara - for his own karmic benefit or escape. Magnified consciousness does come with magnified responsibilities, no? But I suspect the story relayed here has more to do with post hoc inventions of his disciples than TWB himself...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
A friend of mine saw M's passport once and his name was Bal-Brahmacharya Mahesh Yogi. From: Susan waybac...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 3:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses? Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into Judith Bourque and a number of other women. If you're looking for a tortured soul, it seems to me that it would be the person who did this while claiming to be celibate. Actually, I've discovered at least one public interview from teh late 60's where MMY left it ambiguous what his status was and what he felt about the subject. I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). OTOH, it is entirely possible that his obsession with celibacy for purusha was his own guilt-feelings coming to the surface. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
Thanks Willy!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: wgm4u: I haven't read the witch doctors book... The book by Judith is a very slim paperback, just 219 pages with about a dozen ripped-off photos, and really poor ones at that. Apparently Judith actually took only three photos of the Maharishi in the two years she was in the TMO. What is more interesting to me was the part about Ms Pittman and her position in the Maharishi's so-called 'inner circle'. How Judith got past Jemima and Nanda standing post at the MMY's front door in the middle of the night at a yoga camp in India is beyond me. Maybe Judith crawled in by the bathroom window, except MMY's house apparently didn't even have a bathroom. Go figure. There is one photo of the Maharishi sitting at a dinning room table with the inner circle that is really humorous though. He looks like a 'midget' compared to the others at the table. When I saw it my first thought was how in hell would someone as attractive as Judith want to be having sexual relations with a small guy like that, if you know what I mean. Power and prestige? Anyway, I do believe Judith was in love with the Maharishi and he may have been in love with her. But, the book is a big disappointment. Instead, I'd recommend the new book ($20.00) by Lola Willamson, a real scholar, who was a TM initiate and teacher, as well as an insider in Yogananda's Self Realization Fellowship, and the Siddha Yoga Org. Williamson's book makes Judith's account read like a sleazy tabloid bought at a grocery store check-out or a sidewaklk news-stand - not worth more than a dollar, tops! Work cited: 'Transcendent in America' By Lola Williamson New York University Press, 2010 260 pages. Illustrated. Notes. Index. Biblio. Amazon review: This truly outstanding book is a major contribution to the study of Hinduism, the study of religion in America, and the study of religion in general (particularly the field of comparative mysticism and the epistemology of religious experience). Williamson manages to combine empathy for her subject matter with scholarly rigor to produce a work that is not only intellectually engaging, but that also rings true for those of us who practice within Hindu-inspired meditation traditions... - Jeffery D. Long
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ Real LOve'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWWJx4gpfMgfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Curiosity Has Landed!
Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ Rain'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjDMZiuhbQfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Rover Just Landed on Mars
American scientists, American engineers, American talent.
[FairfieldLife] The Beatles - You got to hide your love away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4gGTtbRqgfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles! Free as a Bird'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHjXF1gUWU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
American scientists, American engineers, American talent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html Wonderful, an amazing feat of engineering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
Man, that was fun to watch. What a bunch of ecstatically happy folks. I've never seen so many people hugging so many other people. There must have been 10 minutes straight of hugs and high-fives after they got the first telemetry back that Curiosity had landed safely. Wonderful headline on the NYTimes Lede live blog of the landing, on the item explaining that it takes 14 minutes for the data to get from Mars back to earth, so they didn't know the landing was successful until 14 minutes later: Whatever Has Happened Has Already Happened. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html
[FairfieldLife] Lets start with having good thoughts especially about ourselves
Hiroshima Remembrance Day 6 Aug 2012 http://imaginepeace.com/archives/18295 %20http://imaginepeace.com/archives/18295 Let's start with having good thoughts especially about ourselves. Don't waste time being angry at greed-ridden corporate guys and lying-through-the teeth politicians. Look into people's eyes. They are your eyes. They are beautiful. They are smiling. Let's go! I love you! Yoko Ono Hiroshima Day, 6 August 2012 http://tinyurl.com/9a3qcyk http://tinyurl.com/9a3qcyk A grandson of ex-U.S. President Harry Truman, who ordered the atomic bombings of Japan during World War II, is in Hiroshima to attend a memorial service for the victims. Read it on Global News: Global News | Grandson of ex-President Truman visits Hiroshima to attend memorial service of A-bomb victims Nuclear energy and humankind cannot co-exist. Reasonable-sounding arguments can be made to justify the original development of an atomic bomb (ensuring victory against fascism), and for the maintenance of a nuclear arsenal (lest the United States fall prey to a hostile country or group with its own nuclear weapons). The nuclear age, however, is a suicidal age. We've had several near misses, the Cuban Missile Crisis being the most obvious. And we've almost had accidental nuclear war when our radar systems (and Russia's) have thought they were seeing incoming nuclear weapons and have prepared to launch nuclear weapons in response. At some point, we won't be able to avert the catastrophe. Similarly, nuclear power plants may seem to provide part of the solution to our energy crisis. http://tinyurl.com/c5m4vng http://tinyurl.com/c5m4vng
