[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share That reminds me of my TM instructor stating that TM won't make you cool as a cucumber (in Finnish: 'viili-pytty'* [püttü]), in fact it might make you more sensitive... When I heard that, I was that close to decide to not learn TM, because then I thought I can't afford to become emotionally more sensitive! * viilipytty: a pot of thick sour milk, Swedish 'fil' (feel).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: * viilipytty: a pot of thick sour milk, Swedish 'fil' (feel). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viili
[FairfieldLife] By far the best??
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[FairfieldLife] The C-word Clique
I think it's appropriate, towards the end of a posting week in which they have embarrassed themselves even more than usual, to spend a little time examining the motivations and mindset of a small group of people here, whom I will refer to (sparing poor, sensitive Share the horror of words actually spelled properly) as the C-word Clique. At this point, there are pretty much only four diehard C-words left -- Jim, Judy, Ann, and Nabby. They have become such a parody of themselves lately that even Ravi is distancing himself from them, and Raunchydog stopped mindlessly piling on some time ago. Former C-word alumni like Robin and Bob Price seem to have bitten the dust and can't be relied upon to pile on to the group hate-screeds any more, and most posters here pretty much ignore what they say, so as a result the C-word Clique has devolved to talking amongst themselves, *to* themselves. Just as a hint to any C-word Clique members who may be reading this -- you should KNOW you're in deep shit when even RAVI is too embarrassed by your behavior to be associated with you...just sayin'. :-) Everyone is pretty much aware of what the C-word Clique members DO. It's *not*, after all, as if they have the option of doing anything *else*, being driven by their obsessions and all. Their habitual behavior is to react mindlessly any time that someone on their Hit List posts something that other posters find interesting or worth discussing, and then attempt to smear them any way they can think of. With three of the CC -- Judy, Jim, and Nabby -- there is almost always a get the anti-TMer undercurrent to what they DO, as they try to demonize any critic of TM, Maharishi, and the TMO who presents arguments that people find believable. Their quest at that point is *consistently* to say anything they possibly can to undercut the critics' credibility. Since they cannot challenge the actual points the critics bring up, they expend all their efforts on trying to get the people who brought up the points, making up things about them or calling them liars. Classic C-word behavior. The fourth CC member, IMO, just piles on because she's more than a little of a B-word, and is trying to emulate and gain the praise of this forum's Queen B-word, Judy. So in a sense she's sadder than the other three -- she doesn't even have a belief system to protect; she's just doing it to impress the other members of the clique. As to WHY they consistently DO this, that's anyone's guess. My guess is that all three of them have been so unconsciously indoctrinated by behaviors they've seen around them in the TM movement for so many years that they've come to believe that acting like a C-word is not only normal, but admirable. Like C-words the world over, they feel that it's *normal* to overreact to someone challenging a mere *idea* that they believe in, and that such an intellectual challenge is the equivalent of a physical slap in the face, and thus an invitation to a duel. In a very real sense, they're duellists, addicted to opposition. One of the reasons for this, of course, is that none of the four of them seem to have anything to say *unless* it's in opposition to one of their perceived enemies. Their lives are essentially boring, but unlike, say, Curtis and myself, they can't even think of ways to write them up so that they become entertaining enough for other people to read. So what they do instead is become intensely, sometimes pathologically JEALOUS any time one of their announced enemies gets some attention for writing up their beliefs or the events of *their* boring lives in an entertaining fashion, and lash out in a fit of jealous rage, trying to bring them down a notch or two. This compulsion is one of the hallmarks of a C-word -- reacting to someone else's good fortune or good news or just having written a good rap as if by putting them down they'll raise themselves up. Never happens. All they wind up doing is embarrassing themselves, as even Ravi commented on this morning. I think it's all very sad, and lamentable. *In theory* these people could possibly have interesting things to say here, but IMO they've all become intellectually lazy, falling back on the same old same old behaviors and lashing out at the same old same old enemies. Their behavior is a perversion of the olde Maharishi-ism Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer we have already prepared. For the C-word brigade, every question and almost every post becomes a perfect opportunity for them to lash out with their prepared putdowns of the same enemies, usually Curtis and Barry, now that Vaj is no longer around. Sometimes they bash Vaj *anyway*, in absentia, just to stay in practice should he reappear. :-) One of the other hallmark behaviors of the C-word bunch is something that they actually *admit* from time to time, as Jimbo did yesterday. They don't just want to put down the people they consider enemies, they want to drive them off the forum. Judy has admitted
[FairfieldLife] Barry and Curtis's hubris [was Re: A lie is only a lie]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: to Jimbo Your reaction to that Girish's post was disgusting to say the least. Yep! I'm glad I wasn't the only one to see it like this. I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead.
[FairfieldLife] NWT of John 1:1
Wiki: Rendering of John 1:1 Main article: John 1:1The New World Translation has been criticized for its rendering of John 1:1. Most English translations render[75] this verse: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. By contrast, the NWT renders[76] the verse: In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. Controversy regarding the translation of John 1:1 is not unique to the NWT; translations with a similar rendering include Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott (interlinear reading) and Goodspeed's An American Translation. Seem to recall the origianal goes something like this: en arkhe en [ane] ho logos kai ho logos en [ane] pros ton theon kai theos en [ane]ho logos. Note that there is no article (ho) before 'theos', so translatingis a 'a god' seems to make some sense, now does it?? 1 εν http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=1722 αÏÏη http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=746 ην http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2258ent2=5713 ο http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3588 Î»Î¿Î³Î¿Ï http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3056 και http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2532 ο http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3588 Î»Î¿Î³Î¿Ï http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3056 ην http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2258ent2=5713 ÏÏÎ¿Ï http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=4314 Ïον http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3588 θεον http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2316 και http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2532 Î¸ÎµÎ¿Ï http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2316 ην http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=2258ent2=5713 ο http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3588 Î»Î¿Î³Î¿Ï http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?lex=Thayerref=\ joh+1%3A1ent=3056
[FairfieldLife] Repost: NWT of John 1:1
Wiki: Rendering of John 1:1 Main article: John 1:1The New World Translation has been criticized for its rendering of John 1:1. Most English translations render[75] this verse: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. By contrast, the NWT renders[76] the verse: In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. Controversy regarding the translation of John 1:1 is not unique to the NWT; translations with a similar rendering include Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott (interlinear reading) and Goodspeed's An American Translation. Seem to recall the origianal goes something like this: en arkhe en [ane] ho logos kai ho logos en [ane] pros ton theon kai theos en [ane]ho logos. Note that there is no article (ho) before 'theos', so translatingit as 'a god' seems to make some sense, now does it??
[FairfieldLife] Judy gone really stooopid (was Re: A lie is only a lie)
Just to make sure you all GET this, it's hilarious: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: snip Basically all what Judy knows, which goes beyond superficial beginner level comes from what has been said by people *here* on one of these forums who were more involved in the past. Says navashok, *citing what I myself just said* as if it were his own analysis. Oh, come on, how silly is this? Just because we came to the same conclusion, as it is simply the TRUTH, doesn't mean I have copied or even seen your post that was actually just sent 8 minutes before. Now Judy's hilarious reaction: It was in the post you're responding to, you utter nitwit. And: You *quote* it below. How STOOPID can you *get*? And: Have you ever heard the term own goal? And now comes the quote of herself she was most likely referring to: And I've never claimed my knowledge goes beyond what is taught to the rank-and-file and what I've picked up from teachers on this and other Web forums. Oh, and during my stay at the TM facility in Asbury Park back in '95-'96. Now dear reader, please count the arrows before the quote: 3 arrowsin the quote of Judy above, and 4 arrows in the quote by me at the top. That means, her comment in *this* post regarding herself is AFTER my comment, she is just repeating what she had said elsewhere. And this elsewhere is most likely this post: #337947 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/337947 It's not even addressed to me, and was just posted a few minutes before mine, indeed at the time I was composing it, so I hadn't seen it, and therefore my analysis, completely correct according to her own admission, was in fact MY own. So, to summarize: Judy complains that I copy a judgment she has made of herself, then repeats this judgment in the very same post, to just say that I commented on it. She's so confused, blinded by her mindless anger that she makes a very stupid mistake. To make stupid mistakes is something that can be excused, but this very childishness of thriving in *finding* something to denigrate the other person, to the point where you make it up, that's disgusting. In this case we call it OWN GOAL.
[FairfieldLife] Barry and Curtis's hubris [was Re: A lie is only a lie]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. The Movement must listen to this old soul and take strong action to save itself immediately! Seeing the Movement dead in India will otherwise make navashok very distressed and unhappy indeed ! (chuckle)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blessed are platitude puking Gurus !!! to Xeno Ravi
dear neurotic Ravi no love dear neurotic Aunt Share no more? Very sad. Even rainbows are weeping. Not to mention the retardlets (-: PS Xeno, without your writing, the FFL rainbow would be a pretty pathetic rainbow in my unhumble opinion, not that you're worried about it or my nit picky opinion even one iota (-: From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blessed are platitude puking Gurus !!! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Blessed is Guru Xeno and blessed are all platitude puking Gurus - resolving life's puzzling, bewildering, baffling complexities through a set of banal, inane platitudes and beliefs. No need for any pain, burden, guilt at life's contradictions when one can easily numb them with the mere mention of one of Guru Xeno's platitude pukes. I and my dear Aunt Share are such big fans of Guru Xeno - oh we bow to you - The Maitreya, The Mayan Messiah of Morons !!! I and my dearneurotic Aunt Share ..that is - I don't want to offend her. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yep, Judy has only done twenty four thousand and ninety sessions of TM since 1980, compared to Barry's ZERO. And Barry thinks this is impressive, and argues that 24 thousand meditations is not even worth comparing to his *complete lack of experience*. If anyone wants to know about pure hubris, this is a textbook example. Same with Curtis. Both these yokels feel themselves so superior to the rest of us on here, that they don't even have to practice TM to state their opinions on it. Gawd, I am embarrassed for both of them. Anyway, Curtis, per your exhaustive points on beliefs, this is where belief gets you. Both nowhere, and out of touch with reality. Enjoy, but please don't either of you try to get taken seriously around here, again. Some of us caught on long ago. Bullshitters like you two are not welcome on FFL. Please find Vaj (remember him?) and the three of you go have a pity party - K? Based on what Alex has said, unless you violate a few simple rules, everyone is welcome on FFL. That includes bullshitters and those we might consider saints. You also have to be careful about spiritual pedigree as it is called. How many meditations you have had or not have had may be no indication of how advanced or retarded you are spiritually. People younger than me, who have meditated less than me have awakened when I was still struggling with various issues. You never know if your next meditation, or just a walk in a gas station convenience mart is going to be the moment things open up. You don't know if the guy sifting through trash at a dumpster might be just a day away from some great spiritual insight. No one here has a complete lack of experience, but we do have differences.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: NWT of John 1:1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgTcJtjYWJc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Wiki: Rendering of John 1:1 Main article: John 1:1The New World Translation has been criticized for its rendering of John 1:1. Most English translations render[75] this verse: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. By contrast, the NWT renders[76] the verse: In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. Controversy regarding the translation of John 1:1 is not unique to the NWT; translations with a similar rendering include Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott (interlinear reading) and Goodspeed's An American Translation. Seem to recall the origianal goes something like this: en arkhe en [ane] ho logos kai ho logos en [ane] pros ton theon kai theos en [ane]ho logos. Note that there is no article (ho) before 'theos', so translatingit as 'a god' seems to make some sense, now does it??
[FairfieldLife] Barry and Curtis's hubris [was Re: A lie is only a lie]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yep, Judy has only done twenty four thousand and ninety sessions of TM since 1980, compared to Barry's ZERO. And Barry thinks this is impressive, and argues that 24 thousand meditations is not even worth comparing to his *complete lack of experience*. If anyone wants to know about pure hubris, this is a textbook example. Same with Curtis. Both these yokels feel themselves so superior to the rest of us on here, that they don't even have to practice TM to state their opinions on it. Gawd, I am embarrassed for both of them. Anyway, Curtis, per your exhaustive points on beliefs, this is where belief gets you. Both nowhere, and out of touch with reality. Enjoy, but please don't either of you try to get taken seriously around here, again. Some of us caught on long ago. Bullshitters like you two are not welcome on FFL. Please find Vaj (remember him?) and the three of you go have a pity party - K? Based on what Alex has said, unless you violate a few simple rules, everyone is welcome on FFL. That includes bullshitters and those we might consider saints. You also have to be careful about spiritual pedigree as it is called. How many meditations you have had or not have had may be no indication of how advanced or retarded you are spiritually. People younger than me, who have meditated less than me have awakened when I was still struggling with various issues. You never know if your next meditation, or just a walk in a gas station convenience mart is going to be the moment things open up. You don't know if the guy sifting through trash at a dumpster might be just a day away from some great spiritual insight. No one here has a complete lack of experience, but we do have differences. Most souls have great binding; some souls have little binding; a few souls have very little binding; and a very few souls have absolutely no binding. All these souls (atmas) of different consciousness, of different experiences, of different states are in the Over-Soul (Paramatma). If, now, all souls are in the Over-Soul and are all One, then why is there any difference in the consciousness, in the planes, in the experiences and in the states? The cause of this difference is that the souls have different and diverse impressions (sanskaras).* -Meher Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blessed are platitude puking Gurus !!!
Ravi, if you want neurotic, all we have to do is revisit the description of your recent meeting. At least you were big enough to recount how you totally flubbed it. Next time, follow my advice better, and I think you can have a better result. Still lovin ya, though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: Blessed is Guru Xeno and blessed are all platitude puking Gurus - resolving life's puzzling, bewildering, baffling complexities through a set of banal, inane platitudes and beliefs. No need for any pain, burden, guilt at life's contradictions when one can easily numb them with the mere mention of one of Guru Xeno's platitude pukes. I and my dear Aunt Share are such big fans of Guru Xeno - oh we bow to you - The Maitreya, The Mayan Messiah of Morons !!! I and my dear neurotic Aunt Share ..that is - I don't want to offend her. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yep, Judy has only done twenty four thousand and ninety sessions of TM since 1980, compared to Barry's ZERO. And Barry thinks this is impressive, and argues that 24 thousand meditations is not even worth comparing to his *complete lack of experience*. If anyone wants to know about pure hubris, this is a textbook example. Same with Curtis. Both these yokels feel themselves so superior to the rest of us on here, that they don't even have to practice TM to state their opinions on it. Gawd, I am embarrassed for both of them. Anyway, Curtis, per your exhaustive points on beliefs, this is where belief gets you. Both nowhere, and out of touch with reality. Enjoy, but please don't either of you try to get taken seriously around here, again. Some of us caught on long ago. Bullshitters like you two are not welcome on FFL. Please find Vaj (remember him?) and the three of you go have a pity party - K? Based on what Alex has said, unless you violate a few simple rules, everyone is welcome on FFL. That includes bullshitters and those we might consider saints. You also have to be careful about spiritual pedigree as it is called. How many meditations you have had or not have had may be no indication of how advanced or retarded you are spiritually. People younger than me, who have meditated less than me have awakened when I was still struggling with various issues. You never know if your next meditation, or just a walk in a gas station convenience mart is going to be the moment things open up. You don't know if the guy sifting through trash at a dumpster might be just a day away from some great spiritual insight. No one here has a complete lack of experience, but we do have differences.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The C-word Clique
Never has a crowing cockadoodledoo so competently contrived to combine compassion and cleverness thus cunningly. Congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The C-word Clique I think it's appropriate, towards the end of a posting week in which they have embarrassed themselves even more than usual, to spend a little time examining the motivations and mindset of a small group of people here, whom I will refer to (sparing poor, sensitive Share the horror of words actually spelled properly) as the C-word Clique. At this point, there are pretty much only four diehard C-words left -- Jim, Judy, Ann, and Nabby. They have become such a parody of themselves lately that even Ravi is distancing himself from them, and Raunchydog stopped mindlessly piling on some time ago. Former C-word alumni like Robin and Bob Price seem to have bitten the dust and can't be relied upon to pile on to the group hate-screeds any more, and most posters here pretty much ignore what they say, so as a result the C-word Clique has devolved to talking amongst themselves, *to* themselves. Just as a hint to any C-word Clique members who may be reading this -- you should KNOW you're in deep shit when even RAVI is too embarrassed by your behavior to be associated with you...just sayin'. :-) Everyone is pretty much aware of what the C-word Clique members DO. It's *not*, after all, as if they have the option of doing anything *else*, being driven by their obsessions and all. Their habitual behavior is to react mindlessly any time that someone on their Hit List posts something that other posters find interesting or worth discussing, and then attempt to smear them any way they can think of. With three of the CC -- Judy, Jim, and Nabby -- there is almost always a get the anti-TMer undercurrent to what they DO, as they try to demonize any critic of TM, Maharishi, and the TMO who presents arguments that people find believable. Their quest at that point is *consistently* to say anything they possibly can to undercut the critics' credibility. Since they cannot challenge the actual points the critics bring up, they expend all their efforts on trying to get the people who brought up the points, making up things about them or calling them liars. Classic C-word behavior. The fourth CC member, IMO, just piles on because she's more than a little of a B-word, and is trying to emulate and gain the praise of this forum's Queen B-word, Judy. So in a sense she's sadder than the other three -- she doesn't even have a belief system to protect; she's just doing it to impress the other members of the clique. As to WHY they consistently DO this, that's anyone's guess. My guess is that all three of them have been so unconsciously indoctrinated by behaviors they've seen around them in the TM movement for so many years that they've come to believe that acting like a C-word is not only normal, but admirable. Like C-words the world over, they feel that it's *normal* to overreact to someone challenging a mere *idea* that they believe in, and that such an intellectual challenge is the equivalent of a physical slap in the face, and thus an invitation to a duel. In a very real sense, they're duellists, addicted to opposition. One of the reasons for this, of course, is that none of the four of them seem to have anything to say *unless* it's in opposition to one of their perceived enemies. Their lives are essentially boring, but unlike, say, Curtis and myself, they can't even think of ways to write them up so that they become entertaining enough for other people to read. So what they do instead is become intensely, sometimes pathologically JEALOUS any time one of their announced enemies gets some attention for writing up their beliefs or the events of *their* boring lives in an entertaining fashion, and lash out in a fit of jealous rage, trying to bring them down a notch or two. This compulsion is one of the hallmarks of a C-word -- reacting to someone else's good fortune or good news or just having written a good rap as if by putting them down they'll raise themselves up. Never happens. All they wind up doing is embarrassing themselves, as even Ravi commented on this morning. I think it's all very sad, and lamentable. *In theory* these people could possibly have interesting things to say here, but IMO they've all become intellectually lazy, falling back on the same old same old behaviors and lashing out at the same old same old enemies. Their behavior is a perversion of the olde Maharishi-ism Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer we have already prepared. For the C-word brigade, every question and almost every post becomes a perfect opportunity for them to lash out with their prepared putdowns of the same enemies, usually Curtis and Barry, now that Vaj is no longer around. Sometimes they bash Vaj
[FairfieldLife] Barry and Curtis's hubris [was Re: A lie is only a lie]
Oh Ravi. As a highly born Indian, you of all people should know that enlightenment is impossible to discern by actions. Why? Because spiritual evolution is just that - evolution. So it isn't something like graduating from engineering school, and then being able to build a better widget. It moves. Enlightenment moves. So once the initial Liberation occurs, and we are established in Silence, it is a continuous process of growth, much more quickly than before. Glad we got that out of the way. What is next? Oh yeah, how you cringe whenever I claim my enlightenment. Please get over it. It doesn't somehow magically revert my consciousness to that of one ignorant to his fundamental nature, to someone unenlightened, when you or Barry do not like me saying such a thing. Like Byron Katie says, you can argue with reality, and you'll only be wrong 100% of the time. So yeah, no one EVER says they are enlightened, as if it is like uttering a curse. That is why I do it - It is both accurate, and causes severe cognizant dissonance in people like you. Oh goodie!! As for the rest of your opinion, yeah, I don't like you much now, either. I think that covers it, kiddo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Oh Jimbo bimbo - lay it off dude. You come across as very pathetic in your opposition to Curtis and Barry, you lack the conviction and strength of character that Judy and Robin have. You come across as a TM fanatic, a TM TB'er - not experience but some fantasy. Your reaction to that Girish's post was disgusting to say the least. Barry's right - no one believes that you are enlightened, I cringe whenever I see you say that, how fucking clueless you are. You say enlightenment is very common - as if it is some kind of achievement - you want to set the bar so low that you and Nabby can just hop across - it doesn't work that way dude..LOL You can be very witty, intelligent - not sure why you need this deception - I suppose I don't know what your emotional, psychological problems are that you have to project yourself as enlightened. If you want to engage in some TM induced fantasy enlightenment and platitude puke the BATGAP list is a better place for you. I had read some of your posts on FFL from way back and it was embarrassing, not to mention you pretending to be a woman and creating some other id's to go after Barry. I just can't imagine how you could get Barry's throwing shit on the fan routine to bother you so much - really lame. You should perhaps read how Ann and or even RD respond to Barry. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:39 PM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** OK, they can stay here on FFL, but only because you said so, and Alex, deep apologies for this transgression. Thankfully, Easter is coming up, and I can flagellate myself properly for my sins. Sort of a Biblical *twofer*. But this has nothing to do with a spiritual pedigree, Zee-know. I was simply pointing out that Judy is far more familiar with the practice of TM, than Barry is, due to her additional twenty thousand plus experiences of it. I agree with your point about spiritual pedigree. That is why I suggested in an earlier post that Barry would have been better off by *not* beginning meditation in this lifetime - He isn't ready for it yet; no consistency or progress. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yep, Judy has only done twenty four thousand and ninety sessions of TM since 1980, compared to Barry's ZERO. And Barry thinks this is impressive, and argues that 24 thousand meditations is not even worth comparing to his *complete lack of experience*. If anyone wants to know about pure hubris, this is a textbook example. Same with Curtis. Both these yokels feel themselves so superior to the rest of us on here, that they don't even have to practice TM to state their opinions on it. Gawd, I am embarrassed for both of them. Anyway, Curtis, per your exhaustive points on beliefs, this is where belief gets you. Both nowhere, and out of touch with reality. Enjoy, but please don't either of you try to get taken seriously around here, again. Some of us caught on long ago. Bullshitters like you two are not welcome on FFL. Please find Vaj (remember him?) and the three of you go have a pity party - K? Based on what Alex has said, unless you violate a few simple rules, everyone is welcome on FFL. That includes bullshitters and those we might consider saints. You also have to be careful about spiritual pedigree as it is called. How many meditations you have had or not have had may be no indication of how advanced or retarded you are spiritually. People younger than me, who have meditated less than me have awakened when I was still struggling with
[FairfieldLife] Autism Spectrum Disorder: Can Transcendental Meditation help these children?
Autism Spectrum Disorder: Can Transcendental Meditation help these children? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lia-bezTi5sfeature=player_embedded
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
Habemus Papam! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat... John jr_esq: We're impressed with your Latin. But what does it say? Thanks, John - Latin, like Sanskrit, is a dead language. Currently I am learning not only Latin, but Spanish, French, Japanese, Sanskrit, Hindi, Tibetan, and Urdu. FYI: In fact, Sanskrit has never been the spoken language of any people, anywhere. There are no bija mantras mentioned in Rig Veda, and no bija mantras are found in any Vedic Literature. There is a lot of information about Sanskrit coming out of Texas lately, some of it is true and some of it is just plain misleading. However, in reality, there are not that many ordinary folks around here who can read Sanskrit or understand it, much less recite the nicknames of all the devas in a foreign tongue! We depend on hearsay for most of our information, usually overhearing phrases at camp-meets. A few bhogis like to read newsgroups on the Internet and post by day, but many of us adepts do not even like to use overseas languages for communication among ourselves, preferring instead our own native Tex-Mex dialect, called Lingo, which is ideally suited to household life. However, a lot of folks around here are bi-lingual to a certain degree. In fact, San Antonio has been described as one of the most diverse ethnic cities in the U.S. I guess that is why they call that amusement park 'Six Flags Over Texas'. LoL! Anyway, we local yokels aproppriate our phrases from Yaqui, Spanish, English, German, and French words. In addition, we make use of a lot of place names that we ripped off from the native indigenous population, such as Pontiac, Taos, and Milwaukee. This notwithstanding, there has been an increased interest in Oriental vernaculars, such as Hindi and Tibetan, due to an influx of tourists, immigrants, and International students. The resident Swami here is said to be able to speak five languages, including fluent English and Urdu. The Swami, who recently gave a speech in Hindi, has an interesting habit of omitting certain dipthongs when using Sanskrit words, e.g. Yog for Yoga, etc. In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. Apparently, the language called Sanskrit was not spoken by the Vedic population of ancient India, being a dead language akin to Latin, and used solely for oral liturgical purposes by priests during the Homa ceremony. Written Sanskrit was invented later by Panini, who lived long after the Vedas were first recited by the ancient rishis and sages. It is a fact, that the first known written vernacular in India is from the pillar of King Ashoka at Sarnath, and it is not written in Sanskrit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
Edg, I'm not sure what you mean by the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. What do you mean by ordinary? What do you mean by conventional processes? Did somebody say FF has more saints or Arjuna pals than other towns of comparable size?! I think I missed a post but thought I'd attempt a reply anyway. Probably a bad idea but also want to thank you for the youtube clip (-: Lastly, does ANYTHING really change ANYONE'S basic personality? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists. Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to navashok
Good for me to remember. I got in trouble last time because I didn't immediately recognize you with your new alias (-: From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Ann and navashok --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Whaat? That wasn't me who made the joke about you going to Paris with turqish delight. Was it? No, it wasn't aimed at you. I admit I'm beside myself what with fluffy unicorns from you and cute spammish meeses from Ann. Thank you both and happy trails to navashok. Will you have a new handle when you return? (-: I'm back as Navashok. I usually change my handle only if I'm away for a longer period. From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP. Okay Share, just to let you know that I have seen this. I'm going out of town tomorrow, so will be back only next week, and still have to pack, and no, I am not going to Paris ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4i7vS_UO4Q I know people who have had it. Rick, maybe I don't get booted because I'm not a gov. Even when I was a grad student and open about going to tantric workshops of David Deida, no one said anything to me. EFT tapping is based on acupuncture meridian points so I don't see how that would be objectionable. And last but not least, my pastoral counselor has been on IAA since the beginning! Would she be if therapy was objectionable?! From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael   From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael   There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP. I know of people who have had it. Does that change your idea that the mantra theory is nonsense?  Speaking as someone who has done therapy and energy work over the years, including EFT tapping, I would say this: TM is necessary for emotional and energetic healing. But it is not sufficient for someone who may have major trauma especially from early childhood. I think TM developed my wisdom and common sense to the point that I sought out other modalities. And I would say this to anyone in the TMO.  Actually I think it's proof that TM is not a cult, the fact that someone like me goes to the Dome every day twice a day and wisely seeks out whatever healing modalities I think I need.  I don’t know about current policies, but in the past people have been booted out of the dome or kept off courses for doing that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Beats Amy Camus?
10 octaves: beats Amy Camus aka Yma Sumac! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4fRAHShBg
[FairfieldLife] Fluffy Fouls Out (was Judy gone really stooopid (was Re: A lie is only a lie))
Poor Fluffy continues to bungle in his blinding eagerness to get me. See below. As this is my last post for the week, following my response to Fluffy is a quick comment noting one of Barry's especially ugly lies about me from his rant this morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: Just to make sure you all GET this, it's hilarious: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Basically all what Judy knows, which goes beyond superficial beginner level comes from what has been said by people *here* on one of these forums who were more involved in the past. Says navashok, *citing what I myself just said* as if it were his own analysis. Oh, come on, how silly is this? Just because we came to the same conclusion, as it is simply the TRUTH, doesn't mean I have copied or even seen your post that was actually just sent 8 minutes before. Now Judy's hilarious reaction: It was in the post you're responding to, you utter nitwit. And: You *quote* it below. How STOOPID can you *get*? And: Have you ever heard the term own goal? And now comes the quote of herself she was most likely referring to: And I've never claimed my knowledge goes beyond what is taught to the rank-and-file and what I've picked up from teachers on this and other Web forums. Oh, and during my stay at the TM facility in Asbury Park back in '95-'96. Now dear reader, please count the arrows before the quote: 3 arrowsin the quote of Judy above, and 4 arrows in the quote by me at the top. That means, her comment in *this* post regarding herself is AFTER my comment, she is just repeating what she had said elsewhere. And this elsewhere is most likely this post: #337947 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/337947 There's a reason Fluffy doesn't quote this post but only links to it. It's because if he quoted it, readers would see that I was quoting myself *from an earlier post*: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/337767 It's not even addressed to me, and was just posted a few minutes before mine, indeed at the time I was composing it, so I hadn't seen it, and therefore my analysis, completely correct according to her own admission, was in fact MY own. Sorry, no. Post #337767 was made on 3/11, plenty of time for Fluffy to have seen it before making his comment. So, in fact, Fluffy's analysis was something he picked up from me but is pretending was his own idea. And when I caught him at it, he freaked and devised this elaborate lie in an attempt to cover it up. So, to summarize: Judy complains that I copy a judgment she has made of herself, then repeats this judgment in the very same post, to just say that I commented on it. She's so confused, blinded by her mindless anger that she makes a very stupid mistake. To make stupid mistakes is something that can be excused, but this very childishness of thriving in *finding* something to denigrate the other person, to the point where you make it up, that's disgusting. In this case we call it OWN GOAL. The projection is just delicious, isn't it? And all over such an essentially minor point. OK, now to Barry, who wrote this morning in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/338056: One of the other hallmark behaviors of the C-word bunch is something that they actually *admit* from time to time, as Jimbo did yesterday. They don't just want to put down the people they consider enemies, they want to drive them off the forum. Judy has admitted as much many times over the years, and gloats when she manages it, as she did with Sal Sunshine. This is not a minor point. It's made up out of whole cloth, deliberately and maliciously. And it's another instance of projection. The list of people Barry has driven off the forum is a long one. The rest of his post is so deranged it doesn't warrant comment; everyone who reads it will recognize it for what it is. Whatever additional lies Barry and Fluffy tell about me between now and Friday evening, I'll take apart over the weekend.
[FairfieldLife] Did Hugo Chavez Tell Jesus to Pick a South Amercan Pope?
That's the talk in Venezuela today. But it appears that this is more likely a political ploy by the acting president of the country to gain support among the people. http://news.yahoo.com/did-hugo-chavez-tell-jesus-pick-south-american-120106500.html
[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v1.08
What makes art Art? What is it that differentiates a velvet Elvis painting from the Mona Lisa? They're both just portraits of a smiling person, after all, but one is kitch and the other is Art. My theory is that the thing that makes art Art is the same thing that makes the ordinary extraordinary, and that makes enlightenment Enlightenment -- how much attention you bring to the experience, paired with how much you bring to the relating of the experience to others. The ordinary really isn't. There are no such things as ordinary days and extraordinary days; there are only days. What turns the former into the latter is just paying attention, and noticing that *every* day is extraordinary. And it's the same thing with enlightenment; nothing whatsoever changes, except your perception of everything. So, to expand upon my theory, just noticing that the ordinary is and has always been extraordinary isn't Art. Just noticing that you have always already been enlightened isn't Art. Both are purely subjective experiences; only the person experiencing them experiences them. It's when you attempt to convey these subjective experiences to others that Art happens. If you can bring the same level of attention that you brought to noticing the extraordinary and noticing enlightenment to the attempt to convey it to others, *then* you have the possibility of creating Art. What distinguishes the velvet Elvis painting from the Mona Lisa is the degree of attention the painters brought to the creation of them. If they did a good job, the extraordinary or enlightened visions they experienced subjectively somehow get captured in the artwork, and come through the painting, such that other people can get a sense of the artist's subjective experience. That's my theory, anyway. How you see things don't mean shit, and don't make you an artist. But if you can manage to allow other people to see things the way you see them, sometimes that becomes Art. Paris is a great town for art. There are 204 museums in the city (not just 153 as Wikipedia thinks), and all of them are open FOR FREE one evening a week and one day a week. I'm looking forward to cruising a few of them. If I find any of them extraordinary, I'll try to report my subjective experience here, and see whether anyone can catch a buzz off of it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
Richard, It appears that Texas has many talented people, including George W. who has a hidden talent for painting dogs. As far as learning languages are concerned, are you studying these languages on your own or do you have teachers to help you? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Habemus Papam! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat... John jr_esq: We're impressed with your Latin. But what does it say? Thanks, John - Latin, like Sanskrit, is a dead language. Currently I am learning not only Latin, but Spanish, French, Japanese, Sanskrit, Hindi, Tibetan, and Urdu. FYI: In fact, Sanskrit has never been the spoken language of any people, anywhere. There are no bija mantras mentioned in Rig Veda, and no bija mantras are found in any Vedic Literature. There is a lot of information about Sanskrit coming out of Texas lately, some of it is true and some of it is just plain misleading. However, in reality, there are not that many ordinary folks around here who can read Sanskrit or understand it, much less recite the nicknames of all the devas in a foreign tongue! We depend on hearsay for most of our information, usually overhearing phrases at camp-meets. A few bhogis like to read newsgroups on the Internet and post by day, but many of us adepts do not even like to use overseas languages for communication among ourselves, preferring instead our own native Tex-Mex dialect, called Lingo, which is ideally suited to household life. However, a lot of folks around here are bi-lingual to a certain degree. In fact, San Antonio has been described as one of the most diverse ethnic cities in the U.S. I guess that is why they call that amusement park 'Six Flags Over Texas'. LoL! Anyway, we local yokels aproppriate our phrases from Yaqui, Spanish, English, German, and French words. In addition, we make use of a lot of place names that we ripped off from the native indigenous population, such as Pontiac, Taos, and Milwaukee. This notwithstanding, there has been an increased interest in Oriental vernaculars, such as Hindi and Tibetan, due to an influx of tourists, immigrants, and International students. The resident Swami here is said to be able to speak five languages, including fluent English and Urdu. The Swami, who recently gave a speech in Hindi, has an interesting habit of omitting certain dipthongs when using Sanskrit words, e.g. Yog for Yoga, etc. In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. Apparently, the language called Sanskrit was not spoken by the Vedic population of ancient India, being a dead language akin to Latin, and used solely for oral liturgical purposes by priests during the Homa ceremony. Written Sanskrit was invented later by Panini, who lived long after the Vedas were first recited by the ancient rishis and sages. It is a fact, that the first known written vernacular in India is from the pillar of King Ashoka at Sarnath, and it is not written in Sanskrit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4fRAHShBg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
Far far away, behind the word mountains, far from the countries Vokalia and Consonantia, there live the blind texts. Separated they live in Bookmarksgrove right at the coast of the Semantics, a large language ocean. A small river named Duden flows by their place and supplies it with the necessary regelialia. It is a paradisematic country, in which roasted parts of sentences fly into your mouth. Even the all-powerful Pointing has no control about the blind texts it is an almost unorthographic life One day however a small line of blind text by the name of Lorem Ipsum decided to leave for the far World of Grammar. The Big Oxmox advised her not to do so, because there were thousands of bad Commas, wild Question Marks and devious Semikoli, but the Little Blind Text didn't listen. She packed her seven versalia, put her initial into the belt and made herself on the way. When she reached the first hills of the Italic Mountains, she had a last view back on the skyline of her hometown Bookmarksgrove, the headline of Alphabet Village and the subline of her own road, the Line Lane. Pityful a rethoric question ran over her cheek, then . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Habemus Papam! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat... John jr_esq: We're impressed with your Latin. But what does it say? Thanks, John - Latin, like Sanskrit, is a dead language. Currently I am learning not only Latin, but Spanish, French, Japanese, [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z7glCNYnLfM/UUHqT8vC_MI/BDE/\ WrU7NITnjnk/s576/jap.jpg?gl=GB] Sanskrit,Hindi, [https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pU_QztsRiCQ/UUHw7j7ttsI/BFQ/\ jUZARx-fV9Q/s512/sanskrit.jpg?gl=GB] snip not to forget CHINESE CYRILL not to forget LUXEMBURGUES De ruffen laacht blëtzen dee. De net rifft Kléder däischter, geet Bänk Noper den as. Onser iweral Nuechtegall hu dee, d'Blumme hannendrun sou hu. Dé Land d'Wéën Fielse dén, spilt Stieren hun et. Wär gemaacht Dauschen si. Eise Kënnt hun en not to forget ESPERANTO Festonomo familiano ik dio, unt edzo rilativo miriametro o. Cento frazospeco for jo, iv ism unuo halt' esceptinte. Neado kazablanko ke ont, oni ve kurta jugoslavo kondicionalo. Kelka duontono ian ar, vato trioleto matematika kv poa. not to forget interlingua Su apprende distinguer concretisation nos, web il unic parlar connectiones, como cadeva del su. Nos studio traducite independente da, subjecto promotores se nos. Africa personas pro al, tu nos ascoltar immediatemente. Web al ultra publication.. not to forget QUENYA Fárë inyo palla cua vi, nauva nuquéra yen é, oa pitya valdë ataquë car. Fárë axan ré loc, ná talta ninwa hantalë var. Fum valda ataquë yá, nírë vórima órë nó. Engë pahta wilwarin má nal. Hérë torma naitya ëa nar, fëa sa amorta amilessë. Mí sírë úcarë metta tar, oi vëa ilma engwa varnë not to forget SLOVIO Brat kozxa dusxijm ona mi, vi ulca ovocx scxastie tut. Sos to mlodica premnog svekrotec, bez es ribaf premnog. Des to malju robijt zapalka. Divajm cxesajut dom on, oni on insxto pomocijt. On vse ostaj mezxu usmehili, detes gotovit kazahzem on eda. Iskate zapalit ekonomju om sol, es podpor zveris zxiznuf oni. Glosuf mlodju vcxera dva ti, podpor politju tof to. not to forget SONA Ine dite giuma akama ta, kini pogin amadaci co vio. Imi agaden finyuri tu. Ino ne amio ilocio. Ma itone nedini ika, visu boro purojen on jio. Aga cagun tebin iraxin zu. Tu aci pana denda pekaba.. not to forget TOKIPONA unpa utala ni jan, vi kule utala ike. ale jaki awen nasa mu, ni nena suwi sike mod, ale linja kulupu ko. vi waso sina oko, ni pipi seli wawa ike. vt anu loje monsi. ale mi olin toki seli, en pipi prep anu. li kasi utala akesi oth, en pipi unpa ali. kasi nanpa pi kin, mama pilin... not to forget VOLAPUK Si finots panemon pösodis lif, fat fa igleipom telans ulelifikom. Beg po blufön klotem. Pas abel begom ün. Mö moö flapön lügons utanes. Elaboms getedön fut fa. Daifafideds.. not to forget L33tspeak P1x y4 fr33) 5umm4|213z, 1nf0 1nd1c473z0r 4s z33, iz d0nT F1lt3r INt3r35+3d vve. Da @R3 p@gE$ 3|53wh3r3. FOr da tH4T wIlL pR0dUc+, @nD 0R j00'|| 3n4b|3d,. Kl1x 3nT3R 5O f4q. 54y, f34tUr3 t0 fOr, y4 p1x |-|@v3 r35ul7, INFoRm4T10N, 534r(h 717|3z c0mm4ndz 1T H45. not to forget CORTIGO MORSE -··· ···-- · ··· · ·-· -- · ·-·-·- ··--·· -·-· --··· ---·· --- · -- ·-·· · -·- -· --- ·--- · --- -- ·-·· - ---·· - ·-·· ··--·· --- ·-·· -- -·- ·· --· - · --··· -- --- ·--· -·-- · not to forget EBREO AND not to forget ETC etcetcetc etcetcEtcetc etc etc etceEtctcetcetcetc etc etcetceEtctcetcetc, etc .Etc etcetc etcetcetc etcetcEtcetcetcetc.. FYI: In fact, Sanskrit has never been the spoken language of any people, anywhere. There are no bija mantras mentioned in Rig Veda, and no bija mantras are found in any Vedic Literature. There is a lot
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4zfkeTsto0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4zfkeTsto0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4fRAHShBg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
This is really a fabulous opportunity for the new movement to come forward and say,We are not that! and put good people in to those facilities with an expectation of good and honorable behavior from the whole movement. Make it clear. Make a break from the past. Even for the guy at the top. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain . Cicero, De finibus bonorum et malorum,(On the ends of good and evil) a treatise on the theory of ethics written in 45 BC http://s3.amazonaws.com/loebolus/L040.pdf http://s3.amazonaws.com/loebolus/L040.pdf --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, It appears that Texas has many talented people, including George W. who has a hidden talent for painting dogs. As far as learning languages are concerned, are you studying these languages on your own or do you have teachers to help you? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Habemus Papam! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat... John jr_esq: We're impressed with your Latin. But what does it say? Thanks, John - Latin, like Sanskrit, is a dead language. Currently I am learning not only Latin, but Spanish, French, Japanese, Sanskrit, Hindi, Tibetan, and Urdu. FYI: In fact, Sanskrit has never been the spoken language of any people, anywhere. There are no bija mantras mentioned in Rig Veda, and no bija mantras are found in any Vedic Literature. There is a lot of information about Sanskrit coming out of Texas lately, some of it is true and some of it is just plain misleading. However, in reality, there are not that many ordinary folks around here who can read Sanskrit or understand it, much less recite the nicknames of all the devas in a foreign tongue! We depend on hearsay for most of our information, usually overhearing phrases at camp-meets. A few bhogis like to read newsgroups on the Internet and post by day, but many of us adepts do not even like to use overseas languages for communication among ourselves, preferring instead our own native Tex-Mex dialect, called Lingo, which is ideally suited to household life. However, a lot of folks around here are bi-lingual to a certain degree. In fact, San Antonio has been described as one of the most diverse ethnic cities in the U.S. I guess that is why they call that amusement park 'Six Flags Over Texas'. LoL! Anyway, we local yokels aproppriate our phrases from Yaqui, Spanish, English, German, and French words. In addition, we make use of a lot of place names that we ripped off from the native indigenous population, such as Pontiac, Taos, and Milwaukee. This notwithstanding, there has been an increased interest in Oriental vernaculars, such as Hindi and Tibetan, due to an influx of tourists, immigrants, and International students. The resident Swami here is said to be able to speak five languages, including fluent English and Urdu. The Swami, who recently gave a speech in Hindi, has an interesting habit of omitting certain dipthongs when using Sanskrit words, e.g. Yog for Yoga, etc. In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. Apparently, the language called Sanskrit was not spoken by the Vedic population of ancient India, being a dead language akin to Latin, and used solely for oral liturgical purposes by priests during the Homa ceremony. Written Sanskrit was invented later by Panini, who lived long after the Vedas were first recited by the ancient rishis and sages. It is a fact, that the first known written vernacular in India is from the pillar of King Ashoka at Sarnath, and it is not written in Sanskrit.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. Gives me some Uday Hussein vibes. Forcing a couple to travel with him so he could cuckold the husband has more of a power than sex overtone. Humiliation being part of the turn-on. Although perhaps in India where women are watched more closely, he didn't have the luxury Maharishi had of lots of nubile young things away from their parents or any chaperones. So the only way he could exert his alpha chimp sexual power without drawing attention to it was this kind of arrangement. And we don't know what kind of understanding was in place until the wheels came off. Proximity to power has its perks. Do they view him as a realized guru in the Indian TM movement? I wonder. I always think that this makes the power differential even worse. So there may be more than one perspective on what went down. Girish is another version of the rich, entitled, power-positioned asshole playing alpha to some woman he hired. How far he strays into darker territory will hopefully come out if the Indian press has the same interest in sex-power stories we do here. Spoiler alert: they do. Inquiring minds want to know. Atcha! Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
All I know is that all the changes in my personality -- the few I can spot -- have come from VERY HARD KNOCKS. 30 years of TM still found me with low esteem, almost-clinical narcissism, and a denial engine that was churning out magical thinking rat-a-tat-tat. I was not funnier, smarter, kinder, wiser or whatever-er than anyone else after 30 years of TM -- and those qualities are easy found in others who didn't meditate during similar evolutionary periods. Sure, going to the dome, being in the FF community mind-set, teaching TM -- all those had ordinary impacts on me in that I was dealing with people, money, time use, and on and on -- and those things mature a person because those processes are iterated and hardwired and must needs have impacts on other processes. Obviously anyone who would put as much time into Scientology or Catholicism as I did for TM would have similar stories and personal growth just from all the people business that has to be part of that. And all the folks I ever met in FF and the TMO sure seem like they never changed. I never not once met someone -- decades after teacher training say -- who was not immediately recognizable as the same person. Anyone detect any changes in any of the long timer leaders? Aren't they all at about the same level of ass-hole-ish-ness as when you first knew of them? I like the same foods, I like the same lifestyle, I like the same sex style, I like the same everything and hate the same hatefuls. And I have to take more naps at 68 years old, and I'm aging like all the rest of youand so did and are all the TMers -- especially the so-called ajur-vedists. And, I still don't get sick -- knock on wood -- as it always was for me in days gone by, no colds or anything for 15 years. So, at least TM didn't make me more likely to get sensitive to various germs -- so that's a benefit, now is it? See? No one gets measured at the beginning of TM to establish a tare weight. BAH! And worse, no one can be measured in such a way that it would be scientific -- decades later -- to assign cause to any changes. Remember that our environment has 50,000 chemicals being pumped into it by industry -- and almost none of them actually tested for toxicity -- a micro dot of LSD can make you crazy -- what to speak of all those other chemicals and their effects? If someone HAS improved over the decades it could be because they live downwind of the one chimney in America spewing the one chemical that that one person gets affected by -- like that -- all longitudinal research is suspect. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Edg, I'm not sure what you mean by the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. What do you mean by ordinary? What do you mean by conventional processes? Did somebody say FF has more saints or Arjuna pals than other towns of comparable size?! I think I missed a post but thought I'd attempt a reply anyway. Probably a bad idea but also want to thank you for the youtube clip (-:   Lastly, does ANYTHING really change ANYONE'S basic personality? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.  Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: In addition, there has been an increased interest in learning Sanskrit on this very newsgroup. One informant, sometimes posting under the handle 'Chief Shitting Bull', claims to have a special apprenticeship with a certain 'Mullquist', who is reputed to be somewhat of a linguist somewhere up in Nokialand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4fRAHShBg Hey Card, That was hilarious. You just made my day!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v1.08
This is a great art rap Barry and a topic I've had on my mind. I think your perspective has merit. You are talking more about the inside of the artist, and I will talk about the outer expression. I would like to add two things that apply across art forms. One is that technical skill in itself can be entertaining but can also come off as superficial if the artist is not using it for a deeper purpose. But the combination allows for an expression of not just more subtle things, but the kind of subtext mix that is closer to how people feel. Examples would be the way an actor can portray not only the joy of winning but as a sub-emotion the embarrassment of so much attention on them. Meryle Streep is famous for the ability to convey two things at once, something under the surface that draws us into a question about her characters. You can't sum up the Mona Lisa as happy chick. There is so much more being expressed by her expression and pulling that off so even a cretin like me can recognize it is not easy. So for a velvet painting to be what I consider the best art, it would have to have two things with the second thing more important. First the actual painting technique would have to be subtle enough to be able to express the kind of detailed depth I am talking about. It would have to be able to express not only Elvis' grinning magnetic charm and confidence, but somehow, like the enigmatic smile of the Mona Lisa, express his inner conflicts, something in how the eyes mismatch the smile, that would let us know that there is something under the surface of this star's megawatts. Something human that touches us and that we can recognize in ourselves. And Elvis had this quality in his personality. No matter how much he embraced his star quality on stage, he always conveyed a slight smirking inside joke vibe, that let you know he wasn't taking himself completely seriously. It was endearing and would be very hard to capture in art. That is always my goal in music. To express more than one feeling in the complexity of songs about relationships and life's mortality. And the early bluesmen had this quality, both in their lyrics and in their style of performance. I've got a kindhearted woman, do anything in the world for me, I've got a kindhearted woman, do anything in the world for me, But those evil-hearted women, they will not let me be. I've got a kindhearted woman, but she studies evil all the time, Ive got a kindhearted woman, but she studies evil all the time, Ya wells to kill me baby, just to have it on your mind. Robert Johnson 1936-37 I look forward to the Paris art reports. My favorite museum there was near the Eiffel Tower I think, the small impressionist museum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: What makes art Art? What is it that differentiates a velvet Elvis painting from the Mona Lisa? They're both just portraits of a smiling person, after all, but one is kitch and the other is Art. My theory is that the thing that makes art Art is the same thing that makes the ordinary extraordinary, and that makes enlightenment Enlightenment -- how much attention you bring to the experience, paired with how much you bring to the relating of the experience to others. The ordinary really isn't. There are no such things as ordinary days and extraordinary days; there are only days. What turns the former into the latter is just paying attention, and noticing that *every* day is extraordinary. And it's the same thing with enlightenment; nothing whatsoever changes, except your perception of everything. So, to expand upon my theory, just noticing that the ordinary is and has always been extraordinary isn't Art. Just noticing that you have always already been enlightened isn't Art. Both are purely subjective experiences; only the person experiencing them experiences them. It's when you attempt to convey these subjective experiences to others that Art happens. If you can bring the same level of attention that you brought to noticing the extraordinary and noticing enlightenment to the attempt to convey it to others, *then* you have the possibility of creating Art. What distinguishes the velvet Elvis painting from the Mona Lisa is the degree of attention the painters brought to the creation of them. If they did a good job, the extraordinary or enlightened visions they experienced subjectively somehow get captured in the artwork, and come through the painting, such that other people can get a sense of the artist's subjective experience. That's my theory, anyway. How you see things don't mean shit, and don't make you an artist. But if you can manage to allow other people to see things the way you see them, sometimes that becomes Art. Paris is a great town for art. There are 204 museums in the city (not just 153 as Wikipedia thinks), and all of them are open FOR FREE one evening a week and one day
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
John jr_esq: As far as learning languages are concerned, are you studying these languages on your own or do you have teachers to help you? There's a Tibetan and Indian diaspora in Texas. Also, I'm getting much help from Prof Mullquist. Apparently the earliest epigraphic evidence on languages employed in India comes from the inscriptions of Asoka inscribed in third century B.C. Asoka took care that his messages were intelligible to all and he used a particular kind of Prakrit. Even more remarkable is the fact, which has been recently discovered, that for those people who at the time lived in Afghanistan, his message was given in Greek as well as Aramaic. One of the Greek inscriptions is a translation of the Kalinga Edict, and the Greek of the inscriptions is not inferior in style to the classical Greek of Greek literature. In such circumstances neglect of Sanskrit by Asoka, if the language was in use, would be contrary to all his practice. http://www.angelfire.com/al/appiusforum/sanskrit.html http://www.angelfire.com/al/appiusforum/sanskrit.html So, the absence of Sanskrit in his inscriptions indicates that it did not exist at that time, as otherwise he would have certainly used it. According to Chaudhuri, ...before Christ in India there were many foreign invasions which introduced many foreign languages. These mixing with the early Indian languages led to what is often called a Prakrit which was diverse in nature. There was a confusion of languages, and this led Indian scholars to develop Sanskrit which borrowed from the earlier languages existing in India. The first evidence of classical Sanskrit is attested by an inscription dating around A.D.150 in the Brahmi script. It records the repair of a dam originally built by Chandragupta Maurya, and also contains a panegyric in verse which can be regarded as the first literary composition in classical Sanskrit. It is at Girnar in Kathiawar and was inscribed by Rudradamana, the Saka Satrap of Ujjayini, on the same rock on which the Fourteen Rock Edicts of Asoka were also found. It is significant that Rudradamana employed classical Sanskrit in a region where about four hundred years before him Asoka had used only Prakrit. This definitely proves that in the second century AD Sanskrit was replacing the dialects. Even so the language did not replace Prakrit everywhere, but it continued to be used in inscriptions for something like one hundred years or even more after this date. However, from the fifth century A.D. classical Sanskrit is seen to be the dominant language in the inscriptions. Work cited: 1. Hinduism, by Nirad C. Chaudhuri, Oxford University Press, USA, 1979. Habemus Papam! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat... John jr_esq: We're impressed with your Latin. But what does it say? Thanks, John - Latin, like Sanskrit, is a dead language. Currently I am learning not only Latin, but Spanish, French, Japanese, Sanskrit, Hindi, Tibetan, and Urdu. FYI: In fact, Sanskrit has never been the spoken language of any people, anywhere. There are no bija mantras mentioned in Rig Veda, and no bija mantras are found in any Vedic Literature. There is a lot of information about Sanskrit coming out of Texas lately, some of it is true and some of it is just plain misleading. However, in reality, there are not that many ordinary folks around here who can read Sanskrit or understand it, much less recite the nicknames of all the devas in a foreign tongue! We depend on hearsay for most of our information, usually overhearing phrases at camp-meets. A few bhogis like to read newsgroups on the Internet and post by day, but many of us adepts do not even like to use overseas languages for communication among ourselves, preferring instead our own native Tex-Mex dialect, called Lingo, which is ideally suited to household life. However, a lot of folks around here are bi-lingual to a certain degree. In fact, San Antonio has been described as one of the most diverse ethnic cities in the U.S. I guess that is why they call that amusement park 'Six Flags Over Texas'. LoL! Anyway, we local yokels aproppriate our phrases from Yaqui, Spanish, English, German, and French words. In addition, we make use of a lot of place names that we ripped off from the native indigenous population, such as Pontiac, Taos, and Milwaukee. This notwithstanding, there has been an increased interest in Oriental vernaculars, such as Hindi and Tibetan, due to an influx of tourists, immigrants, and International students. The resident Swami here is said to be able to speak five languages, including fluent English and Urdu. The Swami, who recently gave a speech in Hindi, has an interesting habit of omitting certain dipthongs when using Sanskrit words, e.g. Yog for Yoga, etc. In addition, there has been an increased interest in
[FairfieldLife] Master Higgs Sacrament of Confirmation
confirmed the confirmation of GOD's bosom [;)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSpZB1ncVU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSpZB1ncVU http://www.livescience.com/27888-newfound-particle-is-higgs.html http://www.livescience.com/27888-newfound-particle-is-higgs.html The Higgs is sometimes referred to as the God particle, to the chagrin of many scientists, who prefer its official name. Buck [:D] , however, LOVE [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-anuyHOE_MR4/TZ8YZFVvdfI/AzE/\ 8C929hosmcc/s60/god%2520particle.jpg?gl=GB] that name. http://www.livescience.com/17489-god-particle-higgs-boson.html http://www.livescience.com/17489-god-particle-higgs-boson.html If physicists can definitively detect the Higgs boson and determine its mass, the discovery would have wide-reaching implications. Here are five of the biggest. http://www.livescience.com/17433-implications-higgs-boson-discovery-lhc.\ html http://www.livescience.com/17433-implications-higgs-boson-discovery-lhc\ .html I've had them waiting far below me, When I scrambled down the net. There in all that darkness, Was I scared? Well, you bet! And if ol' Master Higgs, Is alive in this here day, Let's give him a party Just so we can say, Many thanks, Master Higgs. You've done yourself real proud!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
merudanda: Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: And all the folks I ever met in FF and the TMO sure seem like they never changed. I never not once met someone -- decades after teacher training say -- who was not immediately recognizable as the same person. Anyone detect any changes in any of the long timer leaders? Aren't they all at about the same level of ass-hole-ish-ness as when you first knew of them? Good rap, Edg. As a commentary, once after years away from both TM and the TMO I happened to pass through Fairfield. Curious, I parked my car and spent a little time wandering around the town and the campus. This was a few years after I had started studying with the Rama guy, and although I had certainly felt subjective changes, I wondered if any of them would be evident to anyone I ran into who had known me previously. Alas, I didn't run into any of those people. Until I real- ized that I needed to mail a letter and didn't have a stamp, and went to the Post Office, as I remember the one either near or on campus. There was a long line, and while I was waiting I noticed a woman also waiting in line whom I had known back in L.A. and on various TM courses. I smiled, but she didn't seem to acknowledge it. We were in parallel lines, and thus arrived at the window at the same time, so I turned and said hello to her. She looked at me as if I were a complete stranger. We had slept together. [ Ann is free to insert one of her bitchy remarks about how less-than-memorable sex with me must have been, and she may well be correct. But the issue was genuinely not that she remembered me less than fondly, but that she didn't recognize me at all. ] I finally had to introduce myself, and at first she smiled and brightened and said, Oh yes...Barry...my God, I didn't even recognize you. But then she paused, and her face darkened, and she said (I shit you not), But wait...didn't you leave the Movement (it had a capital letter the way she said it)? Didn't you go Off The Program (three capital letters)? I laughed and admitted both. She left hurriedly. She may have actually taken a bath when she got home to wash the Cooties off. :-) One of the differences I have noticed between some spiritual traditions and TM's is that in the former, people seem to visibly change, and often. In the TM movement, they don't. People may believe that they've changed on the inside, but it rarely seems to make it to the outside.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] Obesity (was Re: World Naked Bike Ride 2013)
turquoiseb: So. Now. Let's get into what upset you so much about this that it stuck in your mind, and led you to believe that I would be ashamed of it? Because, all your Ex's live in Texas? LoL! http://youtu.be/lMNw_-yUm_0 http://youtu.be/lMNw_-yUm_0 Chorus: I remember that old Frio River Where I learned to swim But it brings to mind another time Where I wore my welcome thin By transcendental meditation I go there each night But I always come back to myself Long before daylight http://youtu.be/3Eg5uyrpuno First, where does it say in the story that she was 19? More important, where does it say that I had sex with her? I intentionally left that part a mystery, as it should be. Tell us, what really *bugged* you about this? We can tell that something did. Was it me using FFL as an audience and just rapping about the real events of my real life? I can under- stand how that concept might be foreign to you. Or was it the idea that a young woman found me (not to mention my decor) attractive? I can see how that experience might not have crossed your path, either. Boy, if you couldn't handle that one, this one must have fuckin' flipped you out. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/217798 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/217798
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment, innicent till judged by court!
Suspension till case is adjudicated or settled in some manor!!! All are stand innocent in law, till proven, in law or other wise! In a message dated 03/14/13 12:13:56 Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, innocent no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Drinking coffee made from snow....
On 03/13/2013 08:15 PM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Sorry to use you as an example but what I wanted to point out that often when I come across people who say it's simple to lose weight I think they've never had to diet at least not lose weight. As a sports trainer haven't ever come across people who get tired within a few minutes of exercise? Some of these people often have an adrenal insufficiency which is unimaginable to people without it. And most people who become sports trainers DON'T have that problem except for the few who have taken on the problem and solved it and in the process became trainers. I also know that many athletic trainers are hip to the metabolic concepts. That one book I mentioned buying a few weeks ago online was one I had not yet seen on metabolic typing by a sports trainer to the stars Philip Goglia called Turn Up the Heat. He has attempt to simplify the process of determining the metabolic type without extensive testing. Yes, theoretically if we burn more calories than we take in it should work. That's sort of the bottom line but I'm just sayin' that there are complicating factors. A friend who is a psychology professor told me there is research into why people can gain weight just looking at food. IOW, this seems to happen with some people. I am far from any expert in metabolism or of the factors that go into diet and the organs that metabolize food. I am not a dietician, nutritionist, ayurvedic expert or doctor. You seem to have a fairly sophisticated knowledge of this field. And I know it is ongoing as far as the discovery of new and relevant data on food groups, body types etc. etc. Very complex. I only know what my body has responded to over the years in terms of diet and how it is changing on the outside now. I would love to have a body of a 25 year old again but this old carcass is all I've got and I try and look after it by making it work a little and by eating what I believe to be healthy foods in moderate amounts. But I also need to find a balance between what I crave ie Chocolate Haagan dazs sundays and what I believe will keep my physical shell functioning optimally. Indulgence vs healthy practice. Have you tried to recall your consciousness at age 25? The body is very malleable and it might find it pleasing and will try to adapt to it. IOW, samyama of being 25. It may reverse any damage due to aging. Yes metabolism is sort of complex and it also can change. Your original statements suggested slow oxidizer but your later admissions suggest fast oxidizer. I'm not trying to diagnose or anything but just mention some things I learned along the way. I've mentioned it before but one of the leading experts in metabolic typing is a TM teacher I knew back in the 1970s.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
Locally one of the chemicals the refineries are spewing into the air is estrogen. It's feminizing the men as well as contributing to obesity. So are many of the chemicals in processed foods. I'm sure if I posted on the local news blog about the estrogen release I might have an accident. There is also an accusation that fluoride in the water acts as a mild tranquilizer and the real reason it's there rather than to fight tooth decay. Actually it's there as a way to get rid of a difficult toxic by-product of aluminum industry. It tends to make American passive. My tantric guru said personalities won't change a lot due to enlightenment as the samskaras responsible for personalty don't tend to get burnt away. Sort of the remains of ignorance that Maharishi talked about. If I want a nap in the afternoon I know something is off about my metabolism and do something about it. At peak performance I need only 4-6 hours of sleep. Also sounds like you are not really a people person but got put in charge of jobs where you had to be. I hear you on that. ;-) On 03/14/2013 09:15 AM, Duveyoung wrote: All I know is that all the changes in my personality -- the few I can spot -- have come from VERY HARD KNOCKS. 30 years of TM still found me with low esteem, almost-clinical narcissism, and a denial engine that was churning out magical thinking rat-a-tat-tat. I was not funnier, smarter, kinder, wiser or whatever-er than anyone else after 30 years of TM -- and those qualities are easy found in others who didn't meditate during similar evolutionary periods. Sure, going to the dome, being in the FF community mind-set, teaching TM -- all those had ordinary impacts on me in that I was dealing with people, money, time use, and on and on -- and those things mature a person because those processes are iterated and hardwired and must needs have impacts on other processes. Obviously anyone who would put as much time into Scientology or Catholicism as I did for TM would have similar stories and personal growth just from all the people business that has to be part of that. And all the folks I ever met in FF and the TMO sure seem like they never changed. I never not once met someone -- decades after teacher training say -- who was not immediately recognizable as the same person. Anyone detect any changes in any of the long timer leaders? Aren't they all at about the same level of ass-hole-ish-ness as when you first knew of them? I like the same foods, I like the same lifestyle, I like the same sex style, I like the same everything and hate the same hatefuls. And I have to take more naps at 68 years old, and I'm aging like all the rest of youand so did and are all the TMers -- especially the so-called ajur-vedists. And, I still don't get sick -- knock on wood -- as it always was for me in days gone by, no colds or anything for 15 years. So, at least TM didn't make me more likely to get sensitive to various germs -- so that's a benefit, now is it? See? No one gets measured at the beginning of TM to establish a tare weight. BAH! And worse, no one can be measured in such a way that it would be scientific -- decades later -- to assign cause to any changes. Remember that our environment has 50,000 chemicals being pumped into it by industry -- and almost none of them actually tested for toxicity -- a micro dot of LSD can make you crazy -- what to speak of all those other chemicals and their effects? If someone HAS improved over the decades it could be because they live downwind of the one chimney in America spewing the one chemical that that one person gets affected by -- like that -- all longitudinal research is suspect. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Edg, I'm not sure what you mean by the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. What do you mean by ordinary? What do you mean by conventional processes? Did somebody say FF has more saints or Arjuna pals than other towns of comparable size?! I think I missed a post but thought I'd attempt a reply anyway. Probably a bad idea but also want to thank you for the youtube clip (-:   Lastly, does ANYTHING really change ANYONE'S basic personality? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.  Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment, innicent till judged by court!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: Suspension till case is adjudicated or settled in some manor!!! All are stand innocent in law, till proven, in law or other wise! I hear this invoked a lot and can appreciate that until we have the facts we don't know what went on as I said in my post about this. But the legal standards of judging cases really has little to do with how we judge things in our daily life. (I don't even know if what the legal standard in India is, do you?) Throw in the very dubious influence peddling in India by the rich and powerful and it is probably unrealistic to expect us not to weigh in as the statements are published about what went on, to form opinions as best we can with what we know. I mean are you expressing faith that an Indian justice system (or ours for that matter) will deal impartially with a rich guy like Girish who has probably cultivated many powerfully alliances. Remember how well connected Sai Baba was. that basically made him untouchable. Settled in law doesn't mean guilty or innocent to me. OJ got off remember. But he did it. In a message dated 03/14/13 12:13:56 Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@... writes: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, innocent no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
You are as usual talking complete rubbish, but of course, with you, anything goes as long as you can endlessly, unceasingly attack TM and the people who do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: And all the folks I ever met in FF and the TMO sure seem like they never changed. I never not once met someone -- decades after teacher training say -- who was not immediately recognizable as the same person. Anyone detect any changes in any of the long timer leaders? Aren't they all at about the same level of ass-hole-ish-ness as when you first knew of them? Good rap, Edg. As a commentary, once after years away from both TM and the TMO I happened to pass through Fairfield. Curious, I parked my car and spent a little time wandering around the town and the campus. This was a few years after I had started studying with the Rama guy, and although I had certainly felt subjective changes, I wondered if any of them would be evident to anyone I ran into who had known me previously. Alas, I didn't run into any of those people. Until I real- ized that I needed to mail a letter and didn't have a stamp, and went to the Post Office, as I remember the one either near or on campus. There was a long line, and while I was waiting I noticed a woman also waiting in line whom I had known back in L.A. and on various TM courses. I smiled, but she didn't seem to acknowledge it. We were in parallel lines, and thus arrived at the window at the same time, so I turned and said hello to her. She looked at me as if I were a complete stranger. We had slept together. [ Ann is free to insert one of her bitchy remarks about how less-than-memorable sex with me must have been, and she may well be correct. But the issue was genuinely not that she remembered me less than fondly, but that she didn't recognize me at all. ] I finally had to introduce myself, and at first she smiled and brightened and said, Oh yes...Barry...my God, I didn't even recognize you. But then she paused, and her face darkened, and she said (I shit you not), But wait...didn't you leave the Movement (it had a capital letter the way she said it)? Didn't you go Off The Program (three capital letters)? I laughed and admitted both. She left hurriedly. She may have actually taken a bath when she got home to wash the Cooties off. :-) One of the differences I have noticed between some spiritual traditions and TM's is that in the former, people seem to visibly change, and often. In the TM movement, they don't. People may believe that they've changed on the inside, but it rarely seems to make it to the outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
Verum praeterita omittamus [:D] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: merudanda: Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
Yep - I get summoned all the time too, though I am hoping my latest discussion in the courtroom has tempered that. If the courthouse is that far away, show up, tell them you don't have reliable transportation and it would be a hardship to get back and forth. They will excuse you. Lots of folks try to say they are too valuable at work - not a valid excuse vs. civic duty, though losing money as a consultant sure is, as a financial hardship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumbass@... wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Verum praeterita omittamus [:D] quo in fundo propter insanas illas substructiones facile hominum mille versabatur [:D] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: merudanda: Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
Edg, I won't attempt to comment on the development or lack of with regards to public figures or my acquaintances. I don't feel qualified to assess that at a distance. But I can say that in myself and in my close friends I have seen just the developments that you list: funnier, kinder, etc. However we have been practicing TM AND experiencing very hard knocks so who's to say whence cometh the growth? I do think practicing TM gives a resilience to deal with such. And to follow up on what Bhairitu commented, I'd say that roasted seeds is a good way to describe the growth I see in myself. I can feel the presence of those lifetimes old samskaras. But many of them are dormant now, inactive and unable to be triggered, even some of the oldest and deepest. But not all. I know that too. I'll say a little more about the people person thing too. Years ago I had some very extensive career testing. It found me to be 50% introvert and 50% extrovert. And it's only been in the past few months that I've become comfortable with my introvert side. My pastoral counselor recommended Quiet: the Power of the Introvert by Susan Cain and I never looked back (-: Your paragraph about chemicals reminded of Maharishi's famous quote about how even the smell of a stinking bus could be what pops someone into enlightenment. This is a paraphrase of course. As for Barry's experience with his ex in the post office, I don't think there are very many people like that woman any more in FF. Yes, there are some, but I can't even remember the last time I heard the phrase off the program. Oh, it was probably the last time I read it on FFL. How's that for irony? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists. Locally one of the chemicals the refineries are spewing into the air is estrogen. It's feminizing the men as well as contributing to obesity. So are many of the chemicals in processed foods. I'm sure if I posted on the local news blog about the estrogen release I might have an accident. There is also an accusation that fluoride in the water acts as a mild tranquilizer and the real reason it's there rather than to fight tooth decay. Actually it's there as a way to get rid of a difficult toxic by-product of aluminum industry. It tends to make American passive. My tantric guru said personalities won't change a lot due to enlightenment as the samskaras responsible for personalty don't tend to get burnt away. Sort of the remains of ignorance that Maharishi talked about. If I want a nap in the afternoon I know something is off about my metabolism and do something about it. At peak performance I need only 4-6 hours of sleep. Also sounds like you are not really a people person but got put in charge of jobs where you had to be. I hear you on that. ;-) On 03/14/2013 09:15 AM, Duveyoung wrote: All I know is that all the changes in my personality -- the few I can spot -- have come from VERY HARD KNOCKS. 30 years of TM still found me with low esteem, almost-clinical narcissism, and a denial engine that was churning out magical thinking rat-a-tat-tat. I was not funnier, smarter, kinder, wiser or whatever-er than anyone else after 30 years of TM -- and those qualities are easy found in others who didn't meditate during similar evolutionary periods. Sure, going to the dome, being in the FF community mind-set, teaching TM -- all those had ordinary impacts on me in that I was dealing with people, money, time use, and on and on -- and those things mature a person because those processes are iterated and hardwired and must needs have impacts on other processes. Obviously anyone who would put as much time into Scientology or Catholicism as I did for TM would have similar stories and personal growth just from all the people business that has to be part of that. And all the folks I ever met in FF and the TMO sure seem like they never changed. I never not once met someone -- decades after teacher training say -- who was not immediately recognizable as the same person. Anyone detect any changes in any of the long timer leaders? Aren't they all at about the same level of ass-hole-ish-ness as when you first knew of them? I like the same foods, I like the same lifestyle, I like the same sex style, I like the same everything and hate the same hatefuls. And I have to take more naps at 68 years old, and I'm aging like all the rest of youand so did and are all the TMers -- especially the so-called ajur-vedists. And, I still don't get sick -- knock on wood -- as it always was for me in days gone by, no colds or anything for 15 years. So, at least TM didn't make me more likely to get sensitive to various germs -- so that's a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v1.08
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This is a great art rap Barry and a topic I've had on my mind. I think your perspective has merit. You are talking more about the inside of the artist, and I will talk about the outer expression. I would like to add two things that apply across art forms. One is that technical skill in itself can be entertaining but can also come off as superficial if the artist is not using it for a deeper purpose. Like guitarists who can play fast, but without saying anything. But the combination allows for an expression of not just more subtle things, but the kind of subtext mix that is closer to how people feel. Like Jimi. Examples would be the way an actor can portray not only the joy of winning but as a sub-emotion the embarrassment of so much attention on them. Meryle Streep is famous for the ability to convey two things at once, something under the surface that draws us into a question about her characters. That's interesting. I never thought about her acting that way, but now that you've said it, it makes perfect sense. One of my favorite scenes of hers is from a little-regarded 1984 film she did with Robert De Niro called Falling In Love. She plays an unhappily married woman who meets unhappily married Robert De Niro and begins a long flirt- ation with him. It culminates with her showing up at his doorstep for their first sex date. The camera is essentially across the street, looking at the doorway, so Meryl has her back turned to us. Nevertheless, she managed to convey the conflicting emotions she was feeling by standing there, subtly shifting from one foot to another, and then putting her hands behind her back and wringing them together nervously. How many actresses would have *thought* of that? It's a pivotal scene of the film, and her fuckin' back is turned to the camera. What to do? But now that you mention it, in this scene -- with her back turned to the camera -- she managed to convey two things at once -- her excitement at seeing her new lover for their first sex date, and at the same time what she was feeling as a cheating wife. Magic. You can't sum up the Mona Lisa as happy chick. There is so much more being expressed by her expression and pulling that off so even a cretin like me can recognize it is not easy. Wouldn't it be a hoot if art historians discovered evidence that she was just suffering from an acute case of 'rhoids that day? :-) Hey, things like that have happened in the world of art. Do you know Yousouf Karsh's famous portrait of Winston Churchill? The bulldog look? How Karsh got that was to put up with Churchill's posturing and interruptions and failure to cooperate for a while, all while trying to get him to pose. Finally, Churchill, sitting in front of the camera, whipped out one of his trademark cigars and lit it, ruining the shot until he was finished. Karsh said not a word, but -- still holding the cord with the bulb that activated his camera -- walked over to Churchill and ripped the cigar out of his mouth and threw it on the ground. Then he turned and walked away, squeezing the shutter bulb with his back turned to Churchill. This is the result: Here's a little something that I discovered today, and that verges on Art for me. Joseph Gordon-Levitt's short film: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/joseph-gordon-levitt-short-film\ -flickering-lights_n_2869770.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/joseph-gordon-levitt-short-fil\ m-flickering-lights_n_2869770.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yep - I get summoned all the time too, though I am hoping my latest discussion in the courtroom has tempered that. If the courthouse is that far away, show up, tell them you don't have reliable transportation and it would be a hardship to get back and forth. They will excuse you. Lots of folks try to say they are too valuable at work - not a valid excuse vs. civic duty, though losing money as a consultant sure is, as a financial hardship. Try telling them you believe yogic flying is a type of levitation, that'll get you off the list double quick ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumbass@ wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
I've only had jury duty two times. First was in Federal district court, 118 miles away, in Des Moines. I had to drive there twice, and I was not selected for a jury. Second time was here in FF, and I was selected. County attorney got it into his head that he could somehow magically turn a chick fight into a felony. We, the jury, smacked his sorry ass down and called it what it was: simple misdemeanor assault. The county attorney's case was so stupidly bizarre that afterwards, I actually called up the defense attorney, Ken Ketterhagen, to talk about it. Ken was a nice guy, may he rest in peace. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/23490 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yep - I get summoned all the time too, though I am hoping my latest discussion in the courtroom has tempered that. If the courthouse is that far away, show up, tell them you don't have reliable transportation and it would be a hardship to get back and forth. They will excuse you. Lots of folks try to say they are too valuable at work - not a valid excuse vs. civic duty, though losing money as a consultant sure is, as a financial hardship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumbass@ wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
Re: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
noozguru I appreciate your comment about not being able to find those movie clips wherein an official is asking to see the papers of a citizen. Because I do tend to think of google and youtube as expressions of freedom and openness. Good to be aware of the possibility that they're not. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists. On 03/13/2013 06:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 03/13/2013 04:46 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share I've always stood up to cops. Most of them are a pushover. The ag inspection at the California border is innocuous though and they usually just if you are carrying any fresh fruits or vegetables and most people aren't (and if you do it really doesn't matter that much). Sometimes they only stop trucks. And they might even go away with the budget cuts. Always stand up to illegal inspections like these. DHS is the American Gestapo. Another thing. I thought that a YouTube post in response might be a short scene from one of many WWII movies where a Nazi asks for papers. Looking on YouTube about the only thing you'll find is the short clip from Casablanca but what I wanted was Germans in Gestapo outfits. There has to be many scenes from movies like that and from movies in the public domain. Perhaps it is true that Google and YouTube are part of the evil scheme and have deleted such clips.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
At first hearing - yes. After thinking about it - not at all Five star hotels? H --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: Indeed it is. Are you surprised? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Wait, is this the same person who is related to MMY and is the head of the TM org in India? The one who is in the photos we see of events in India? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: A lie is only a lie when it's about Judy or someone she likes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: If I may say something more esoteric here, for me Judy is still a young soul, despite of the age of her physical body. There will be always a conflict with older souls here, who draw from a wider field of experience and thinking, who have come a longer way, and that manifests usually early on in this life. If it wasn't a sad and arrogant statement from the above I'd say it will qualify for: JOKE of week ! No, no, no. get it right Nabby. BOLLOCKS of the week. Jeez, talk about self-aggrandisement... Then again, this is quite common in debate these days, no? You don't just *disagree* with someone. You also wheel in some pseudo- crappy theory about WHY they disagree with you. e.g. The wrong bits of the brain light up, or they are in denial, etc etc. It's a nice short cut to avoid dealing with the very messy nitty-gritty of logic, argument and evidence. PaliGap's Thought-de-Jour: Treat with great suspicion anyone who uses the word brain when any perfectly serviceable English word such as me or mind is available to do the job at hand. And also watch out for the word epistemology. It does NOT mean how we justify belief (Karl Popper would be rotating in his grave at a rate of knots). It means the theory of knowledge (as Emily correctly ascertained). Just sayin' BTW Is Virish (or whatever his name is) guilty until proved innocent? I say this as someone who whilst once running a small organisation, got accused of sexual harrassment myself. It's not nice. In my case the biddy was a nutter, we were not in the public eye, and it came to nothing. At least that's my story!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Buck, has there been any Tmo official response to this in Ffld or India? And who is in charge of all that money in India now that Girish is going? There must be some scrambling and realigning of the rajas and folks in charge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: This is really a fabulous opportunity for the new movement to come forward and say,We are not that! and put good people in to those facilities with an expectation of good and honorable behavior from the whole movement. Make it clear. Make a break from the past. Even for the guy at the top. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Woo Woo News Just In -- Jesus was a shapeshifter
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2293301/Shape-shifting-Jesus-spent-supper-Pontius-Pilate-claims-just-deciphered-1-200-year-old-Egyptian-manuscript.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
This county has over half a million registered voters so no way in hell should I be called every two years. This is just harassment. Maybe I should tell them that they're lucky they called me because I'm a tantric and can remote view the crime and also do the astrology for the event. Maybe then I'll never get called again. On 03/14/2013 10:41 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yep - I get summoned all the time too, though I am hoping my latest discussion in the courtroom has tempered that. If the courthouse is that far away, show up, tell them you don't have reliable transportation and it would be a hardship to get back and forth. They will excuse you. Lots of folks try to say they are too valuable at work - not a valid excuse vs. civic duty, though losing money as a consultant sure is, as a financial hardship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumbass@... wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: You are as usual talking complete rubbish, but of course, with you, anything goes as long as you can endlessly, unceasingly attack TM and the people who do it. Like trying to be taken serious as a lover of art in his latest post forgetting that he recently admitted not understand anything of the work of David Lynch, and that it therefore couldn't be labeled as art. Everyone else understood that he hates Lynch because he is champion of TM :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
They've been known to take down perfectly legal clips just because they were controversial. Companies have this decorum thing which is not appropriate for places like YouTube where the First Amendment must take precedent. On 03/14/2013 11:13 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru I appreciate your comment about not being able to find those movie clips wherein an official is asking to see the papers of a citizen. Because I do tend to think of google and youtube as expressions of freedom and openness. Good to be aware of the possibility that they're not. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists. On 03/13/2013 06:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 03/13/2013 04:46 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share I've always stood up to cops. Most of them are a pushover. The ag inspection at the California border is innocuous though and they usually just if you are carrying any fresh fruits or vegetables and most people aren't (and if you do it really doesn't matter that much). Sometimes they only stop trucks. And they might even go away with the budget cuts. Always stand up to illegal inspections like these. DHS is the American Gestapo. Another thing. I thought that a YouTube post in response might be a short scene from one of many WWII movies where a Nazi asks for papers. Looking on YouTube about the only thing you'll find is the short clip from Casablanca but what I wanted was Germans in Gestapo outfits. There has to be many scenes from movies like that and from movies in the public domain. Perhaps it is true that Google and YouTube are part of the evil scheme and have deleted such clips.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists.
(-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Illegal border patrol stop and frisk program being resisted by polite activists. This county has over half a million registered voters so no way in hell should I be called every two years. This is just harassment. Maybe I should tell them that they're lucky they called me because I'm a tantric and can remote view the crime and also do the astrology for the event. Maybe then I'll never get called again. On 03/14/2013 10:41 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yep - I get summoned all the time too, though I am hoping my latest discussion in the courtroom has tempered that. If the courthouse is that far away, show up, tell them you don't have reliable transportation and it would be a hardship to get back and forth. They will excuse you. Lots of folks try to say they are too valuable at work - not a valid excuse vs. civic duty, though losing money as a consultant sure is, as a financial hardship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Speaking of jury duty, I got a jury summons the other day for a county courthouse 20 miles away! I live at the county seat and the main courthouse is right here just a few miles away. So why the fuck are they wanting me to go to that courthouse? And why in a county with over a million population why do I get a summons every two years? That's just not right. The reason why is probably like the dumb ass DHS jerks many of the people who work in government are out of touch with reality. They just behave like robots. I'm going to fight this summons and try to get the issue publicized. However a friend who lives in this town says that courthouse is supposed to be closed. Perhaps just postponing my jury duty might push to the date where it is closed and the cases moved locally. What a jerk off place the US is becoming. On 03/13/2013 07:40 PM, doctordumbass@... wrote: I was recently excused from a jury after stating to the prosecutor that both the practice of convicting someone with intent to commit a crime, when they did not have the intent, and the practice of using inmate testimony against the defendant, were legal concepts I could not accept. Also said that I could not automatically trust the testimony of a police officer (due to life experience). I wasn't belligerent, and framed my responses clearly and respectfully. Gotta stand up for our rights - no one else will. On the other hand, I am very grateful to have a police force in place, though there are obvious limits on their power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who here has the guts of these guys? You'd think all of us would have suchlike, but not me. These guys are heroes -- wizards of holding onto rights. Where did TM ever push the concept that we'd all turn into heroes of righteousness of any sort? The TMO wanted sheep not shepherds. Anyone trying to lead was kicked out, right? I don't think contacting the transcendent EVER made me even a titch braverlet alone one of Arjuna's pals. And I haven't heard shit-one from any TMer here about my concept that TM doesn't change personality -- except for the conventional processes of ordinary human psychology. IT DOESN'T. Fairfield has the exact same number of saints as any other town its size. BAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZgfeature=share
[FairfieldLife] creativity vulnerability and shame
A great TED talk by Brene' Brown about the epidemic of shame in the world. Around 5 min she explains that after her first TED talk on vulnerability companies sought her but didn't want her to talk about vulnerability and shame. They wanted her to talk about innovation, creativity and change. She answers, Vulnerability IS the birthplace of innovation, creativity and change. She also asserts that vulnerability is the most accurate measure of courage. Towards the end of the talk she talks movingly about the difference between men and women with regards to shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psN1DORYYV0
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Habemus Papam!
merudanda: Verum praeterita omittamus [:D] Novus Ordo Seclorum. Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit . . . Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woo Woo News Just In -- Jesus was a shapeshifter
turquoiseb: Jesus was a shapeshifter... Which one? Maybe so, but, the very first religion of man concerned the 'Luck of the Hunt', expressions of which remain in the Neolithic cave paintings of Southern France. Here, in small groups, early man retired inside dark solitary places in order to perform ceremonies dedicated to obtaining food with the use of a fire fetish and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense gibberish. The Hunt, based on the religious belief in man's free-will to move about in search for food, was the first universal religion of man, and its High God was the energetic Arch Hunter, thus Animism whose bounty was called Manna. With the invention of the plow, agriculture, and animal husbandry, the second religion of man became 'Nature and Society', governed by laws, both secular and divine. Fixed laws are opposed to man's free-will. Laws are ascertained by observing the heavenly planets and the seasons. A faith in the bountiful harvest, which was a boon from the sky gods, who could be seen of man by the clearing of the fields. In this religion of rule revelation, truth was thought of as a fixed expression of cosmic order, with a firmament above, the stars being the shinning gods, or chinks in which light entered the world of man below. Here, in towns and villages, men gathered in large groups, to perform ceremonies and rites, by use of a pole and a sacrifice fetish, offered in return for a good harvest, and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense gibberish. The Harvest, based on the belief in cosmic law was the second universal religion, and its High God was the industrious Arch Harvester, thus Naturalism whose bounty was called Maat. A duality thus arose in the minds of men and women, that is, those humans were separate from a Creator, being the created of the 'One on High'. This duality produced a conflict among the people, between those who believed in free-will and those who believed in fixed laws. A fight began between the Rangers and the Sedants, which became The Great War, the third Religion of man. In which the Gods themselves, armed to the teeth, fight with themselves and with man for Lordship over the land and the people of the new society, in a cosmic battle of Light versus Darkness, or the forces of Good and Evil, as expressed in the Vedas of India, the Avesta of Persia, the Bible of the Levant, and the Book of Thoth in Memphis, that is, Osiris and Seth. With the invention of metal and the spoked wheel, in plains and fields, men gathered in larger groups, to perform ceremonies and rites, by use of various weapon fetishes, in order to obtain success in rapine, plunder and pillage, and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense gibberish. The Great War, based on the belief in revealed might, and the glory of militarism, was the third religion of man, and its High God was the ingenious Warrior, thus Arch Archer whose bounty was called Booty. So, it's all about free-will hunting: moving about, a fixed law harvest, fetish placement, and the cargo cult. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment, innicent till judged by court!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: Suspension till case is adjudicated or settled in some manor!!! All are stand innocent in law, till proven, in law or other wise! I hear this invoked a lot and can appreciate that until we have the facts we don't know what went on as I said in my post about this. But the legal standards of judging cases really has little to do with how we judge things in our daily life. (I don't even know if what the legal standard in India is, do you?) Throw in the very dubious influence peddling in India by the rich and powerful and it is probably unrealistic to expect us not to weigh in as the statements are published about what went on, to form opinions as best we can with what we know. I mean are you expressing faith that an Indian justice system (or ours for that matter) will deal impartially with a rich guy like Girish who has probably cultivated many powerfully alliances. Remember how well connected Sai Baba was. that basically made him untouchable. Settled in law doesn't mean guilty or innocent to me. OJ got off remember. But he did it. And must We be to judgment brought, And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word We say? We are passing away, To that great judgment day. Yes ev'ry secret of thy heart Shall shortly be made known; And thee receive thy just dessert For all that thee have done. We are passing away, To that great judgment day. How careful, then, ought We to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For thy behavior here. We are passing away, To that great judgment day. Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, innocent no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1\ _molestation-husband-complaint To subscribe, send a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Buck, has there been any Tmo official response to this in Ffld or India? And who is in charge of all that money in India now that Girish is going? There must be some scrambling and realigning of the rajas and folks in charge Nothing here local yet, too new. Lot of our poobahs and people are still out of town to the inauguration of the big Temple to Maharishi's Presence in India. Mostly just underlings here now. Dome numbers are generally subdued with people still traveling. Likely still some discovery going on. Indian Newspapers are saying some other women are coming forward with similar complaints about Girish. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is really a fabulous opportunity for the new movement to come forward and say,We are not that! and put good people in to those facilities with an expectation of good and honorable behavior from the whole movement. Make it clear. Make a break from the past. Even for the guy at the top. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woo Woo News Just In -- Jesus was a shapeshifter
more shape shifting - very cool, and inspiring: http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/distorted-furniture-looks-glitch-182657723.html http://tinyurl.com/b59wxfv --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2293301/Shape-shifting-Jesus-spent-supper-Pontius-Pilate-claims-just-deciphered-1-200-year-old-Egyptian-manuscript.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v1.08
Curtis: This is a great art rap Barry and a topic I've had on my mind. I think your perspective has merit. You are talking more about the inside of the artist, and I will talk about the outer expression... The inside of the artyist is the creativity. The outside is the peak experiences, the intense ecstasy, and the pathology. According to Anthony Campbell, in 'Seven States of Conciousness', there are two main modern approaches to the study of mysticism. One is to say that ALL mystical experience is pathological. Another approach, popular with progressive psycologists and writers such as Maslow, and Wilber, is that mysticism can be explained without reference to an absolute. Says Campbell: This would imply that mystic experience has a function, which could be called the promotion of self-integration. In her remarkable study entitled 'Ecstasy', Marghanita Laski rejects all attempts to label the mystic experience pathological: While some pathological states can produce experiences in some ways similar to intensity ecstasies, it seems certain that these experiences are typically produced in people of good mental health. Her subtle and original argument, which, in brief, says that intensity ecstasy is linked to the synthesis of mental material. It is, in fact, an accompaniment of the re-arrangement of ideas which we call creativity. Ecstatic experience is valued, Laski believes, not primarily for the delight it brings - which is great - but because of its association with the organizing, creative power of the mind. Its occurrence is thus a sign of psychological good health. Laski: I do not believe that any explanations of these experiences can be satisfactory if they suggest that ecstasies are only this or only that - only a phenomenon of repressed sexuality or only a concomitant of some or other morbid condition. Certainly convictions are an insufficient substitute for evidence, but both people's convictions of the value of these experiences and their subsequent influence on outlook and language persuade me that these are of some evidential value in justifying the conclusion that ecstatic experiences must be treated as important outside religious contexts, as having important effects on people's mental and physical wellbeing, on their aesthetic preferences, their creativity, their beliefs and philosophies, and on their conduct (373). Campbell: Laski's theory is the most successful attempt so far, to explain mysticism on a purely psychological basis. Reorganization of mental material goes on in the depths, at the subtlest levels. Creativity consists in the ability to appreciate and make use of these subtle levels, and this ability in turn depends on the capacity of the individual to allow his mind to the surface as perfectly calm. The strokes of the artist's brush gain their certainty and vitality through the depth of his moments of silence interspersing his painting activity. Bringing our conciousness repeatedly to pure creativity and inteligence eventually brings pure creativity and intelligence into all our concious life. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Collected Works: http://www.rwilliams.us/works/ Works Cited: 'Creative Intelligence' By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi No. 1, 1971, Quoted in Campbell, 1974 'Seven States of Conciousness' A neurophysiologist considers the vision of possibilities suggested by the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. By Anthony Campbell, M.D. Harper Row, 1974 'Ecstasy: A Study of Some Secular and Religious Experiencies' By Marghanita Laski Cresset, 1965
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v1.08
Nice one Richard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Curtis: This is a great art rap Barry and a topic I've had on my mind. I think your perspective has merit. You are talking more about the inside of the artist, and I will talk about the outer expression... The inside of the artyist is the creativity. The outside is the peak experiences, the intense ecstasy, and the pathology. According to Anthony Campbell, in 'Seven States of Conciousness', there are two main modern approaches to the study of mysticism. One is to say that ALL mystical experience is pathological. Another approach, popular with progressive psycologists and writers such as Maslow, and Wilber, is that mysticism can be explained without reference to an absolute. Says Campbell: This would imply that mystic experience has a function, which could be called the promotion of self-integration. In her remarkable study entitled 'Ecstasy', Marghanita Laski rejects all attempts to label the mystic experience pathological: While some pathological states can produce experiences in some ways similar to intensity ecstasies, it seems certain that these experiences are typically produced in people of good mental health. Her subtle and original argument, which, in brief, says that intensity ecstasy is linked to the synthesis of mental material. It is, in fact, an accompaniment of the re-arrangement of ideas which we call creativity. Ecstatic experience is valued, Laski believes, not primarily for the delight it brings - which is great - but because of its association with the organizing, creative power of the mind. Its occurrence is thus a sign of psychological good health. Laski: I do not believe that any explanations of these experiences can be satisfactory if they suggest that ecstasies are only this or only that - only a phenomenon of repressed sexuality or only a concomitant of some or other morbid condition. Certainly convictions are an insufficient substitute for evidence, but both people's convictions of the value of these experiences and their subsequent influence on outlook and language persuade me that these are of some evidential value in justifying the conclusion that ecstatic experiences must be treated as important outside religious contexts, as having important effects on people's mental and physical wellbeing, on their aesthetic preferences, their creativity, their beliefs and philosophies, and on their conduct (373). Campbell: Laski's theory is the most successful attempt so far, to explain mysticism on a purely psychological basis. Reorganization of mental material goes on in the depths, at the subtlest levels. Creativity consists in the ability to appreciate and make use of these subtle levels, and this ability in turn depends on the capacity of the individual to allow his mind to the surface as perfectly calm. The strokes of the artist's brush gain their certainty and vitality through the depth of his moments of silence interspersing his painting activity. Bringing our conciousness repeatedly to pure creativity and inteligence eventually brings pure creativity and intelligence into all our concious life. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Collected Works: http://www.rwilliams.us/works/ Works Cited: 'Creative Intelligence' By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi No. 1, 1971, Quoted in Campbell, 1974 'Seven States of Conciousness' A neurophysiologist considers the vision of possibilities suggested by the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. By Anthony Campbell, M.D. Harper Row, 1974 'Ecstasy: A Study of Some Secular and Religious Experiencies' By Marghanita Laski Cresset, 1965
[FairfieldLife] Fluffy Fouls Out (was Judy gone really stooopid (was Re: A lie is only a lie))
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Poor Fluffy continues to bungle in his blinding eagerness to get me. See below. As this is my last post for the week, following my response to Fluffy is a quick comment noting one of Barry's especially ugly lies about me from his rant this morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: Just to make sure you all GET this, it's hilarious: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Basically all what Judy knows, which goes beyond superficial beginner level comes from what has been said by people *here* on one of these forums who were more involved in the past. Says navashok, *citing what I myself just said* as if it were his own analysis. Oh, come on, how silly is this? Just because we came to the same conclusion, as it is simply the TRUTH, doesn't mean I have copied or even seen your post that was actually just sent 8 minutes before. Now Judy's hilarious reaction: It was in the post you're responding to, you utter nitwit. And: You *quote* it below. How STOOPID can you *get*? And: Have you ever heard the term own goal? And now comes the quote of herself she was most likely referring to: And I've never claimed my knowledge goes beyond what is taught to the rank-and-file and what I've picked up from teachers on this and other Web forums. Oh, and during my stay at the TM facility in Asbury Park back in '95-'96. Now dear reader, please count the arrows before the quote: 3 arrowsin the quote of Judy above, and 4 arrows in the quote by me at the top. That means, her comment in *this* post regarding herself is AFTER my comment, she is just repeating what she had said elsewhere. And this elsewhere is most likely this post: #337947 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/337947 There's a reason Fluffy doesn't quote this post but only links to it. It's because if he quoted it, readers would see that I was quoting myself *from an earlier post*: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/337767 It's not even addressed to me, and was just posted a few minutes before mine, indeed at the time I was composing it, so I hadn't seen it, and therefore my analysis, completely correct according to her own admission, was in fact MY own. Sorry, no. Post #337767 was made on 3/11, plenty of time for Fluffy to have seen it before making his comment. So, in fact, Fluffy's analysis was something he picked up from me but is pretending was his own idea. And when I caught him at it, he freaked and devised this elaborate lie in an attempt to cover it up. So, to summarize: Judy complains that I copy a judgment she has made of herself, then repeats this judgment in the very same post, to just say that I commented on it. She's so confused, blinded by her mindless anger that she makes a very stupid mistake. To make stupid mistakes is something that can be excused, but this very childishness of thriving in *finding* something to denigrate the other person, to the point where you make it up, that's disgusting. In this case we call it OWN GOAL. The projection is just delicious, isn't it? And all over such an essentially minor point. OK, now to Barry, who wrote this morning in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/338056: One of the other hallmark behaviors of the C-word bunch is something that they actually *admit* from time to time, as Jimbo did yesterday. They don't just want to put down the people they consider enemies, they want to drive them off the forum. Judy has admitted as much many times over the years, and gloats when she manages it, as she did with Sal Sunshine. This is not a minor point. It's made up out of whole cloth, deliberately and maliciously. And it's another instance of projection. The list of people Barry has driven off the forum is a long one. The rest of his post is so deranged it doesn't warrant comment; everyone who reads it will recognize it for what it is. I just couldn't get up enough stamina to read it. I saw the title and that was about it for me. It was like hitting the snooze button on my alarm clock and I had just gotten up so I really didn't want to fall back asleep. I just can't take any more of the mind numbing armchair analysis by Barry. When, Judy, do you think he will figure out these kinds of repetitive rants just aren't interesting, juicy enough or even marginally based on what's really going on to read? My estimation: never. I've only been on FFL a year and at first I figured he couldn't be serious with these kinds of posts but, alas, it's all he's got. Whatever additional lies Barry and Fluffy tell about me between now and Friday evening, I'll take apart over the
