date:20140123

Excellent story, Michael, and beautifully told. You bring back to me so
many memories of childhood in the South, and the strangely mannered (but
comforting) ways that people acted there. Your descriptions of the
people, always including who they're related to the way that people in
the South always do, are great, as are your descriptions of the food.

Sometimes the only way we can "come to terms" with disturbing but
formative experiences like this is to try to tell the story, as best we
can. I think that's what made Garrison Keillor so good at what he
did...he was a great storyteller, and you could tell that much of what
he related on "Prairie Home Companion" were tales from *his* life, told
as a way of not only sharing them with others, but coming to peace with
them himself.

Very nice. Deep bow.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I have told some funny stories, all true, here on FFL. This one is not
so funny, but nonetheless still true. This happened when I was about six
years old. And it was, and still stands today as a strange experience.
It was one of my first experiences of death.
>
> I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of a pet,
but I don't remember it. So maybe I was unprepared for death, not having
had much experience of it, but I had never seen nor heard of a death
watch.
>
> My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what she was dying
of, but she damn sure didn't want to go. And all her kin people were
there, watching, waiting for her to die. (Most everyone I knew then
called her "ain't Oler" or if she wasn't their aunt, then they just
called her Oler, rhymes with roller.)
>
> Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina called
Marshville. Marshville would become known as the birthplace of Randy
Travis and parts of the Steven Spielberg film The Color Purple would be
filmed there 35 or so years in the future, but all Marshville meant to
me was the place we went to see my great grandmother, and this time to
watch Aunt Ola die.
>
> The community was not named Marshville because some enterprising fools
had drained a swamp to build the town, but rather for a couple of
wealthy benefactors named Marsh who donated a good deal of land for a
community center and a couple churches back around the beginning of the
20th century. It had once been a champion area for cotton in the pre and
post Civil war days, and still was devoted to agriculture here in the
early 1960's. Many of my kin in the area were farmers of one sort or
another.
>
> It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like all kids have
to, I had to do what my folks told me to do. So I found myself wandering
around in a very large old A frame house watching all the adults behave
in as strange a fashion as I had ever witnessed.
>
> This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering and many a
country Sunday meal, but now it was serving as hospice. Aunt Ola was
pretty old, and it seemed the entire family had gathered to watch her
die.
>
> Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for years to Lee
Hill, but he had been dead for some years by the time his wife seemed
destined to join him in the afterlife. All her kids should have been by
her side, watching her go to her reward, but some were absent. For one
thing, she and her daughter Velma had fallen out over the land upon
which we were standing at that moment and over the house Ola was dying
in.
>
> Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years at this
time and was slated to receive the house and farm in Ola's will, which
is why Gladys and Velma didn't get along, and the reason Velma and
husband Dusty weren't there at the death watch. They did not in fact
even attend the funeral.
>
> The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't know who they
were. All my great aunts and Uncles were there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that
we all pronounced Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling
wife Marge, philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay, upright
Hoyle who made a living running a tobacco vending route servicing the
cigarette needs of the community through the cigarette vending machines
that were ubiquitous in those days and his wife Ruth, Farmer Buren who
always wore a tie or bow tie and raised gigantic hogs on a nearby farm
and his wife Ethel.
>
> I don't remember but I reckon GT and Lilly were there too, GT being
Ola's brother and Lilly his wife. I remember them because in later days
Randy Travis would talk in interviews about going to GT's little general
store when he was growing up, and after he became a famous country
musician, he would always go visit with GT and Lilly whenever he went
back home to the Marshville area, even after GT retired and gave up the
store.
>
> The largest room in the house, the living room, had been converted to
the death watch area. All the furniture had been removed and chairs,
many of them provided by the local funeral home I reckon, had be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: "Saving Mr. Banks"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I enjoyed this movie too. I think it may have been a special challenge
for Emma Thompson to play someone so uptight, so closed in. I did not
know that Travers was even worse as a human being than as Thompson
played her out.

Emma started out in the business as a *comedian*, performing with people
like Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie. What a change she's seen over the
years in the extent of her "range," eh?

>  One of my earliest spiritual epiphanies occurred in the parking lot
of Disneyland (I had been there once before, some 15 years previously).
I had watched a lot of the real Disney on TV in my youth. Something
special about him. I had gone to Los Angeles to look over equipment
offerings at a convention. I ended up really exhausted, and sick. I had
a half day to kill, I went to Disneyland in Anaheim. I went on rides. I
don't remember what I ate. I even went through that ride some old geezer
sued the park for for having stranded him there for a few hours - It's a
small world. As I left the park, I felt just miserable, but in thinking
about what Disney had created I experience an overwhelming appreciation
of what he had managed to accomplish and I just broke down and cried in
the parking lot. A huge wave of release, followed by a deep silence.
Probably the third or fourth spiritual experience I ever had, just a few
months after the first one I ever had. I think I must have been (and
still am in some ways) like Travers, closed in and tight, not really
realising just how out of the stream of life I was.

The moment in the film that captured a little of this for me was when
Walt (Tom Hanks) was talking late at night with the writers and
lyricists, who were complaining about Travers. Walt took her side and
said that he'd been there, arguing a similar fight from her side,
earlier in his career. Then Walt/Hanks tells the story of an early
business partner who wanted to work with him, but insisted on Walt
giving up "the mouse." Walt held firm, because "the mouse was family."
Very nice moment, and nicely played on Tom Hanks' part.

>  I was with someone years later in an amusement park in St. Louis. She
felt such parks were superficial, but then realised that she observed
that everybody she was watching seemed happy - everyone, not just a few
here and there. Disney had a good heart, and he knew how to market
feeling good, or perhaps out of necessity, he learned how to market it.
Twenty two Academy Awards, and four honorary ones. Not bad.

Part of why "Saving Mr. Banks" touched me was the relationship between
Ginty (Annie Rose Buckley) and her father (Colin Farrell). Without the
booze part, it reminded me of how I interact with Maya. Having had the
privilege of watching a number of Disney movies with her, and seeing how
she reacted, I have revised my opinion of Disney myself. As you say, he
had a good heart, and that shows through much of what he created.

> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote:
>
>  This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger
to be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all,
it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose
sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do
not admire.
>
> And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the
script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there
have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off
by the strength of their "ensemble performances" the way this one did.
The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing
tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I would have
imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film rights to her
book "Mary Poppins" are pretty much unbeatable from start to finish. Add
to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin Farrell as her
father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself as a
child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream.
>
> Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and
yes, it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the
Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The
Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best
Actress, and in my opinion she acted circles around any of the other
nominees, or at least the ones whose films I've seen so far.
>
> The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to
her own adoptive grandchildren, "died loving no one and with no one
loving her." This film showed a better side of her, one that I wish the
old tyrant had gotten to see in life. If she had, she might have
lightened up a bit and learned to laugh at herself a bit more, and thus
had a happier life.
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch

You know at the time of death a lot of support to the release of departing 
souls can be given if folks are sympathetic to what is spiritually going on. 
Sounds like those folks there down south then were just ignorant or unfamiliar 
with what could be done, doing their best personally in grieving and then also 
leaving it to the family nurses up front or hoping for the clergy to do it in 
the end by custom. Certainly a lot of folks are not equipped for this 
themselves and that is understandable.   Cultural Traditions of religions are 
certainly formative in people's lives and being sympathetic to that can be 
helpful even within the particular tradition to pick out the transcendental. 
You kind of have to swing with what you have at hand. The Lord's Prayer 
probably would have been extremely helpful to that old and great auntie in her 
end. I have seen that. For other more spiritually cultivated, mantras and their 
vibrations can be good for transition and release in field effect. I had a 
relation who was extremely well educated, modern and scientific, professional 
and humanitarian in extreme ways like formulating the WIC program and getting 
it through Congress and other things in large concept pediatric health care in 
a lifetime career. In experience was with the first medical unit to come in to 
the Auschwitz camp after the infantry got there, on the radio hearing, “Hey, 
you ought to come up here and see this.. .”. After a lifetime of disciplinedc 
good and great works this person was terrorized in the very end by his more 
formative influences of early life on the Kansas prairie with larger than life 
ideological Christians, like MJ's Cross-roads Preacher and such. Unbelievable 
fear. Even this person of great science learning and great humanitarianism, The 
Lord's prayer worked real good with this relative getting him ready and 
transitioned. Remarkable really as he saw it then given the opposition of early 
years with some really extreme and nutty Christian Kansas compatriots of 
temperate Molly Hatchet. Wow for the Lord's Prayer for composing a subtle 
system at death for (christian) westerners. Jai Guru Devs, -Buck, meditating 
not uncommonly in the Death Watch Room   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Om, best FFL post of January 2014.
 Makes you think really hard about things.
 I'll get back to you about this later.
 Actually, I have to go out and help wrap a body
 at a nursing home for a departed soul now.
 -Buck

[FairfieldLife] The Historic Meissner-like Effect [ME] of Peace:

12 January 1977
 

 
 Creating an Ideal Society:
 
 . .people currently practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique are 
constantly intensifying the Maharishi Effect and contributing to the Age of 
Enlightenment. The dawn is rising to the day.

 The influence of orderliness generated from the state of infinite correlation 
experienced during the Transcendental Meditation technique is so powerful that 
even one per cent of the people in society practicing the Transcendental 
Meditation technique is sufficient to neutralize negative tendencies and give 
an evolutionary direction to community life as a whole.
 

 

 
 The phenomenon of a powerful influence of harmony spreading through a whole 
community or nation when a small fraction of the population practices the 
Transcendental Meditation technique is known as the Maharishi Effect [ME].
 

 
 Considering the [Maharishi] Meissner-like Effect of Increasing Coherence in 
systems. 
 
 
 “Sudden sharp changes from relatively disordered to much more ordered states 
may be considered 'phase transitions' as described in the physical sciences. 
For instance, water changes from a less orderly arrangement of molecules in the 
liquid state to a highly ordered crystalline structure when the temperature is 
lowered to 0 degree C. Physicists are now beginning to explore the possible 
applications of phase transition models to sudden sweeping changes in 
individual and social systems . . Transitions to more orderly configurations 
are frequently mediated by the influence of a few individuals from within a 
population. Such effects are observed in developing systems of many sorts. For 
instance, in the embryo prior to the formation of any organs, a small cluster 
of cells is known as 'The Primary Organizer'. These few cells determine the 
developmental fates of the multitude of undifferentiated and unordered cells 
comprising the rest of the embryo.” 
 
 
 Candace Borland, Ph.D., and Garland Landrith III, M.A., 'Improved Quality of 
City Life Through the Trancendental Meditation Program: Decreased Crime Rate' 
in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program: Collected 
Papers, Vol. I, eds. David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D., and John T. Farrow, Ph.D., 
West Germany, MERU Press, 1976
 
 

 

 
 As more and more cities rose to one percent of the population practicing 
Transcendental Meditation, scientific research found that not only did crime 
decrease, but accidents, sickness, and other negative trends also decreased, 
and positivity increased. Research scientists named this phenomenon the 
'Maharishi Effect' in honor of Maharishi.
 

 
 As early as,
 
 
 “In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the Transcendental Meditation 
program, predicted that a transition in society toward a more orderly and 
harmonious functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order of one 
percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique (6), 
and in December 1974 we found that crime rate did decrease in four midwestern 
U.S. Cities in which one percent of the population was practicing the TM 
technique.”
 
 
 Candace Borland, Ph.D., and Garland Landrith III, M.A., 'Improved Quality of 
City Life Through the Trancendental Meditation Program: Decreased Crime Rate' 
in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program: Collected 
Papers, Vol. I, eds. David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D., and John T. Farrow, Ph.D., 
West Germany, MERU Press, 1976
 
 
 
 

 12 January 1972 Maharishi inaugurated the World Plan to “eliminate the age-old 
problems of mankind in this generation.”   
 

 Right from the beginning of his movement, Maharishi predicted that even a 
small number of the world's population practicing his Transcendental Meditation 
technique could neutralize the stress being built up in the world 
consciousness, thus averting conflicts and wars.  
 

 In 1974 these predictions were validated by scientific studies showing that in 
cities where one percent of the population learned the transcendental 
Meditation technique there was a sudden decrease in crime rates.
 

 By 1974 more than one million people throughout the world had learned the 
practice of Transcendental Meditation and were experiencing higher states of 
consciousness. With this, world consciousness was already becoming increasingly 
purified. Furthermore, people everywhere were experiencing the practical 
benefits of the development of higher states of consciousness in all aspects of 
their daily life, including greater happiness, peace, and harmony. A growing 
body of scientific research was validating the beneficial effects this practice 
had on all levels of mind, body, and behavior of the individual.
 

 It was at this time that research scientists discovered that in cities where 
one percent of the population was practicing Transcendental Meditation, the 
cities' crime rates decreased. As more and more cities rose to one percent of 
the population practicing Transcende

[FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-23 Thread emptybill

As usual, you are really only interested in spouting off what you have read. 
However, what you have read is not deep and comprehensive and it shows in your 
amateurish identifications of the influences between separate traditions. 

 

 You read about these influences from the common arena of discourse in India 
and then conclude that x causes y because of similar concerns in two 
traditions. Advaita means not-two. However, that does not mean that because the 
use the term "advaita" or "advaya" is used in multiple traditions that one of 
these traditions has caused, created or even influenced the view of the others. 

 

 Kashmiri Trika is not and never has been influenced by Shankara's Kevela 
Advaita. What they share is a common Indian basis for philosophizing.
 

 You also know nothing about the pivitol question of causation in the 
development of Hinayana dharma-pluralism, Vijñanavada Ideationism and HwaYen's 
Tathata-Causation. This is a topic that was later very important in the 
refinement and development of Chan/Zen/Sön - both Linji and Caodong traditions. 
 

 
But then you must already know this because you are the professor who 
discourses upon everything you've read. You must be the ultimate embodiment of 
mutual-identity and interpenetration between absolute and relative. 

Hail to Professor P.Dog Willy  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for posting the information,but you failed to point out the 
similarities: 
 

 Shankara's Advaita claims to be based on the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita and 
the Brahma Sutras, but many scholars such as Sharma and Raju have noted that 
Shankara shows many signs of influence from Mahayana Buddhism, Madhyamaka, 
founded by Nagarjuna, the Yogacara, founded by Vasubandhu and Asanga. Gaudapada 
incorporated aspects of Buddhism into Hindusim in order to reinterpret the 
Upanishads and the Brahma Sutras.
 

 1.  Gaudapada adapted the Buddhist concept of "ajata", the doctrine of 
non-origination or non-creation, from Nagarjuna's Madhyamika. Ajata is the 
fundamental philosophical doctrine of Gaudapada. 
 

 2. Advaita Vedanta also adopted from the Madhyamika the idea of two levels of 
reality - "two truths" - absolute and relative.
 

 3. Gaudapada and Shankara adopted almost all of the Buddhist dialectic, 
methodology, arguments and analysis, their concepts, their terminologies and 
even their philosophy of the Absolute. 
 

 4. Gaudapada embraced the Buddhist idea that the nature of the world is the 
four-cornered negation.
 

 5. Gaudapada adopted the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure 
consciousness.
 

 P.S. You also did not explain the connection between the non-dualism of 
Advaita Vedanta and the non-dualism of Kashmere Tantrsim.
 

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM, mailto:emptybill@...> wrote:
   In Tibetan Buddhism, Nagarjuna is the most important philosophical figure. 
It is like Thomas Aquinas for Roman Catholics. Madhyamaka is the basis for 
understanding Buddhism and Vijñanavada is a close correlate. 
 
Contrary to the Tibetans, Madhyamaka is not given the same exalted status in 
the history of Chinese Buddhism. Their conclusion was that the eight-fold 
negation of Nagarjuna set the framework for a final negation of all elements 
(dharmas) of experience, whether material, psychological, or celestial. 
However, according to them, this very conclusion cannot be final. That is 
because any negation (no matter how subtle or all encompassing) is by 
definition the opposite of an affirmation - not merely logically but in final 
meaning and result. It is therefore merely relative and is neither final nor 
absolute. 
 
Consequently, Madhyamaka was superseded by various other Buddhist schools until 
Hwa-Yen became the view that encompassed all other schools and all other 
elements of experience. 

That view about Madhyamaka was echoed by Shankara who characterized Madhyamaka 
as shunyavada and dismissed it rather swiftly. Shankara in fact saved some of 
his most pointed criticisms for the Buddhists of his day, particularly 
Vijnanavada.
 
  
 In spite of this, there are parallels between some of Gaudapada’s statements 
and the views of Vijnanavada because they both draw from the same milieu of 
philosophic discourse.
 

 This is one reason that assertions that Advaita was a secret Buddhism 
demonstrate ignorance of the issues and shallow scholarship.
 
  
 As pointed out by K. A. Krishnaswamy Aiyer, Buddhism and Advaita are 
fundamentally opposed in five key points:
  
 1. Both say that the world is “unreal”, but Buddhists mean that it is only 
a conceptual construct (vikalpa), while Shankara does not think that the world 
is merely conceptual.
  
 2. Momentariness is a cardinal principal of Buddhism – consciousness is 
fundamentally momentary for them. However, in Advaita, consciousness is pure 
(shuddha), without beginning or end (anadi) and is thoroughly continuous. The 
momentariness of empirical states of consci

[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

2014-01-23 Thread s3raphita

Re Share's "Also, and more importantly, I believe that a woman takes on a man's 
karma when they have intercourse.":

 

 That's an intriguing speculation. Where have you encountered that suggestion 
before? (And why shouldn't a man take on a woman's karma when a couple make 
love?) Of course, the idea of a man and woman taking on each other's karmas can 
be used to make a case for fidelity in sexual relationships and to argue 
against promiscuity.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

2014-01-23 Thread s3raphita

An experience is something that has a beginning and has an ending. That applies 
as much to "spiritual" experiences as to any other. A truly transcendental 
event is outside time and so cannot begin or end. What could that be? Well how 
about awareness itself? That never ends (even in sleep!). 
 Anyone who has engaged in the marketplace of new-age practices will have had 
"spiritual experiences" and they can be interesting - even life-changing - but 
as they can be timed by a clock they can't be the ultimate we are seeking. We 
can swap stories of what blew our minds but even as we're telling these tales 
we're back to being stone-cold sober and are relying on our memory. 
 Pure awareness is the real deal and *everyone* has pure awareness (unless they 
are dead) so learning to rest in that state and find it satisfying is worth 
more than the frantic one-upmanship you find in today's spiritual circus which 
values the exotic and the inexplicable. Krishnamurti's insistence on watching 
how our minds constantly try to escape from the mundane reality we encounter 
every moment is as important now as when he when he first began his public 
talks.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Russel Brand on Sex with 2 girls with rubber, the lovely mother of Kathy Perry and Transcendental Meditation

2014-01-23 Thread s3raphita

Re "So, what's wrong with Katy Perry?"

 

 Not a lot I confess. My apologies to Katy for slagging her off. She strikes me 
as a fun girl and has brought a lot of pleasure into our drab lives! I'm 
especially pleased she's finding TM an important plus in her life. 
 I picked on her as her biggest error was marrying Russell Brand - what was the 
poor girl thinking? Brand does strike me as a seriously messed-up individual; 
how can someone be so self-absorbed and self-satisfied - especially when he's 
on a "spiritual" journey? The fact that Katy couldn't see through his ego-mania 
(at least at first) suggests she has a blind spot. Doesn't doing TM make you 
more alert to people's tiresome ego games? I hope she finds a partner a little 
more "centered" next time!
 

 The trouble with celebrities is that they worry too much about what others 
think about them; the vital thing is to be yourself. Indeed the vital thing is 
to be your SELF.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Not everyone in India is a gang rapist.

 

 Bawwy is a simple guy and doesn't do well with complexity. Plus, he loves to 
make the world a worse place to be. He lives for it, stir up the poop and 
encourage others to be at each other's throats. That's how he limps along.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 "Home of all knowledge." A magical land protected by the Vedic gods and living 
in accord with the Laws Of Nature. A shining beacon of the possibilities 
available to lesser, far less-evolved nations. A country into which vast and 
unknown sums of money extorted from faithful TMers to create World Peace 
disappeared, never to be found again. 

 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/india-gang-rape-west-bengal_n_4650743.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/india-gang-rape-west-bengal_n_4650743.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch

spotted dick and drowned baby are both types of English puddings

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch
 To: "Richard J. Williams" 
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:43 AM

 Wonderful piece, Michael, beautifully
 done.>Much better than the short
 story he told about eating the "spotted dick and the
 dead baby." LoL!

 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014
 at 6:37 PM,  
 wrote:

   Wonderful piece, Michael, beautifully
 done.
 I have told some funny stories, all true, here on FFL.
 This one is not so funny, but nonetheless still true. This
 happened when I was about six years old. And it was, and
 still stands today as a strange experience. It was one of my
 first experiences of death. 

 I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of
 a pet, but I don't remember it. So maybe I was
 unprepared for death, not having had much experience of it,
 but I had never seen nor heard of a death watch.

 My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what
 she was dying of, but she damn sure didn't want to go.
 And all her kin people were there, watching, waiting for her
 to die. (Most everyone I knew then called her
 "ain't Oler" or if she wasn't their aunt,
 then they just called her Oler, rhymes with roller.)

 Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina
 called Marshville. Marshville would become known as the
 birthplace of Randy Travis and parts of the Steven Spielberg
 film The Color Purple would be filmed there 35 or so years
 in the future, but all Marshville meant to me was the place
 we went to see my great grandmother, and this time to watch
 Aunt Ola die. 

 The community was not named Marshville because some
 enterprising fools had drained a swamp to build the town,
 but rather for a couple of wealthy benefactors named Marsh
 who donated a good deal of land for a community center and a
 couple churches back around the beginning of the 20th
 century. It had once been a champion area for cotton in the
 pre and post Civil war days, and still was devoted to
 agriculture here in the early 1960's. Many of my kin in
 the area were farmers of one sort or another.

 It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like
 all kids have to, I had to do what my folks told me to do.
 So I found myself wandering around in a very large old A
 frame house watching all the adults behave in as strange a
 fashion as I had ever witnessed.

 This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering
 and many a country Sunday meal, but now it was serving as
 hospice. Aunt Ola was pretty old, and it seemed the entire
 family had gathered to watch her die.

 Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for
 years to Lee Hill, but he had been dead for some years by
 the time his wife seemed destined to join him in the
 afterlife. All her kids should have been by her side,
 watching her go to her reward, but some were absent. For one
 thing, she and her daughter Velma had fallen out over the
 land upon which we were standing at that moment and over the
 house Ola was dying in.

 Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years
 at this time and was slated to receive the house and farm in
 Ola's will, which is why Gladys and Velma didn't get
 along, and the reason Velma and husband Dusty weren't
 there at the death watch. They did not in fact even attend
 the funeral.

 The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't
 know who they were. All my great aunts and Uncles were
 there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that we all pronounced
 Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling wife
 Marge, philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay,
 upright Hoyle who made a living running a tobacco vending
 route servicing the cigarette needs of the community through
 the cigarette vending machines that were ubiquitous in those
 days and his wife Ruth, Farmer Buren who always wore a tie
 or bow tie and raised gigantic hogs on a nearby farm and his
 wife Ethel.

 I don't remember but I reckon GT and Lilly were there
 too, GT being Ola's brother and Lilly his wife. I
 remember them because in later days Randy Travis would talk
 in interviews about going to GT's little general store
 when he was growing up, and after he became a famous country
 musician, he would always go visit with GT and Lilly
 whenever he went back home to the Marshville area, even
 after GT retired and gave up the store.

 The largest room in the house, the living room, had been
 converted to the death watch area. All the furniture had
 been removed and chairs, many of them provided by the local
 funeral home I reckon, had been placed all the way around
 the room against the walls so folks would have a place to
 set as they watched Ola kick the bucket.

 The room had a large fireplace with mantel in the center of
 one wall, and the way it was built as y

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

and I am willing to bet some of those talks were recorded on audio if not 
video, and are in the Movement's tape archives, but of course they will never 
allow them to be seen now.

On Fri, 1/24/14, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:34 AM

   On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

 > I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of
 spotted dick or 

 > drowned baby.

  >

 Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a
 black and white 

 film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

I was speaking somewhat in jest, although those who were around him in the old 
days say he did praise them both, especially when speaking to German or 
Austrian groups - he certainly did praise Marcos and Mugabe - that crap is a 
matter of record in the so-called Global Good News archives. 

On Fri, 1/24/14, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:34 AM

   On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

 > I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of
 spotted dick or 

 > drowned baby.

  >

 Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a
 black and white 

 film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch

thank you and it is all true - good thing my kin folk don't read this forum or 
they would be pissed - at least the cousins that are still alive - esp 
L.W.'s kids - they would come after me for calling their daddy a drunk and a 
philanderer, but he was. 

On Fri, 1/24/14, authfri...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:37 AM

   Wonderful piece, Michael, beautifully
 done.
 I have told some
 funny stories, all true, here on FFL. This one is not so
 funny, but nonetheless still true. This happened when I was
 about six years old. And it was, and still stands today as a
 strange experience. It was one of my first experiences of
 death. 

 I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of
 a pet, but I don't remember it. So maybe I was
 unprepared for death, not having had much experience of it,
 but I had never seen nor heard of a death watch.

 My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what
 she was dying of, but she damn sure didn't want to go.
 And all her kin people were there, watching, waiting for her
 to die. (Most everyone I knew then called her
 "ain't Oler" or if she wasn't their aunt,
 then they just called her Oler, rhymes with roller.)

 Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina
 called Marshville. Marshville would become known as the
 birthplace of Randy Travis and parts of the Steven Spielberg
 film The Color Purple would be filmed there 35 or so years
 in the future, but all Marshville meant to me was the place
 we went to see my great grandmother, and this time to watch
 Aunt Ola die. 

 The community was not named Marshville because some
 enterprising fools had drained a swamp to build the town,
 but rather for a couple of wealthy benefactors named Marsh
 who donated a good deal of land for a community center and a
 couple churches back around the beginning of the 20th
 century. It had once been a champion area for cotton in the
 pre and post Civil war days, and still was devoted to
 agriculture here in the early 1960's. Many of my kin in
 the area were farmers of one sort or another.

 It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like
 all kids have to, I had to do what my folks told me to do.
 So I found myself wandering around in a very large old A
 frame house watching all the adults behave in as strange a
 fashion as I had ever witnessed.

 This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering
 and many a country Sunday meal, but now it was serving as
 hospice. Aunt Ola was pretty old, and it seemed the entire
 family had gathered to watch her die.

 Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for
 years to Lee Hill, but he had been dead for some years by
 the time his wife seemed destined to join him in the
 afterlife. All her kids should have been by her side,
 watching her go to her reward, but some were absent. For one
 thing, she and her daughter Velma had fallen out over the
 land upon which we were standing at that moment and over the
 house Ola was dying in.

 Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years
 at this time and was slated to receive the house and farm in
 Ola's will, which is why Gladys and Velma didn't get
 along, and the reason Velma and husband Dusty weren't
 there at the death watch. They did not in fact even attend
 the funeral.

 The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't
 know who they were. All my great aunts and Uncles were
 there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that we all pronounced
 Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling wife
 Marge, philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay,
 upright Hoyle who made a living running a tobacco vending
 route servicing the cigarette needs of the community through
 the cigarette vending machines that were ubiquitous in those
 days and his wife Ruth, Farmer Buren who always wore a tie
 or bow tie and raised gigantic hogs on a nearby farm and his
 wife Ethel.

 I don't remember but I reckon GT and Lilly were there
 too, GT being Ola's brother and Lilly his wife. I
 remember them because in later days Randy Travis would talk
 in interviews about going to GT's little general store
 when he was growing up, and after he became a famous country
 musician, he would always go visit with GT and Lilly
 whenever he went back home to the Marshville area, even
 after GT retired and gave up the store.

 The largest room in the house, the living room, had been
 converted to the death watch area. All the furniture had
 been removed and chairs, many of them provided by the local
 funeral home I reckon, had been placed all the way around
 the room against the walls so folks would have a place to
 set as they watched Ola kick the bucket.

 The room had a large fireplace with mantel

[FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch

Om, best FFL post of January 2014.
 Makes you think really hard about things.
 I'll get back to you about this later.
 Actually, I have to go out and help wrap a body
 at a nursing home for a departed soul now.
 -Buck

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 1/23/2014 6:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your 
> words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging 
> your spiritual subtle system any further.
 >
You better watch out, Buck -  Judy thinks his stories are wonderful and 
beautifully done. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch

authfrined:
> Wonderful piece, Michael, beautifully done.
>
Much better than the short story he told about eating the "spotted dick and
the dead baby." LoL!


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> *Wonderful piece, Michael, beautifully done.*
>
> I have told some funny stories, all true, here on FFL. This one is not so
> funny, but nonetheless still true. This happened when I was about six years
> old. And it was, and still stands today as a strange experience. It was one
> of my first experiences of death.
>
> I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of a pet, but I
> don't remember it. So maybe I was unprepared for death, not having had much
> experience of it, but I had never seen nor heard of a death watch.
>
> My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what she was dying of,
> but she damn sure didn't want to go. And all her kin people were there,
> watching, waiting for her to die. (Most everyone I knew then called her
> "ain't Oler" or if she wasn't their aunt, then they just called her Oler,
> rhymes with roller.)
>
> Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina called Marshville.
> Marshville would become known as the birthplace of Randy Travis and parts
> of the Steven Spielberg film The Color Purple would be filmed there 35 or
> so years in the future, but all Marshville meant to me was the place we
> went to see my great grandmother, and this time to watch Aunt Ola die.
>
> The community was not named Marshville because some enterprising fools had
> drained a swamp to build the town, but rather for a couple of wealthy
> benefactors named Marsh who donated a good deal of land for a community
> center and a couple churches back around the beginning of the 20th century.
> It had once been a champion area for cotton in the pre and post Civil war
> days, and still was devoted to agriculture here in the early 1960's. Many
> of my kin in the area were farmers of one sort or another.
>
> It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like all kids have to, I
> had to do what my folks told me to do. So I found myself wandering around
> in a very large old A frame house watching all the adults behave in as
> strange a fashion as I had ever witnessed.
>
> This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering and many a
> country Sunday meal, but now it was serving as hospice. Aunt Ola was pretty
> old, and it seemed the entire family had gathered to watch her die.
>
> Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for years to Lee Hill,
> but he had been dead for some years by the time his wife seemed destined to
> join him in the afterlife. All her kids should have been by her side,
> watching her go to her reward, but some were absent. For one thing, she and
> her daughter Velma had fallen out over the land upon which we were standing
> at that moment and over the house Ola was dying in.
>
> Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years at this time
> and was slated to receive the house and farm in Ola's will, which is why
> Gladys and Velma didn't get along, and the reason Velma and husband Dusty
> weren't there at the death watch. They did not in fact even attend the
> funeral.
>
> The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't know who they
> were. All my great aunts and Uncles were there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that we
> all pronounced Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling wife
> Marge, philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay, upright Hoyle who
> made a living running a tobacco vending route servicing the cigarette needs
> of the community through the cigarette vending machines that were
> ubiquitous in those days and his wife Ruth, Farmer Buren who always wore a
> tie or bow tie and raised gigantic hogs on a nearby farm and his wife Ethel.
>
> I don't remember but I reckon GT and Lilly were there too, GT being Ola's
> brother and Lilly his wife. I remember them because in later days Randy
> Travis would talk in interviews about going to GT's little general store
> when he was growing up, and after he became a famous country musician, he
> would always go visit with GT and Lilly whenever he went back home to the
> Marshville area, even after GT retired and gave up the store.
>
> The largest room in the house, the living room, had been converted to the
> death watch area. All the furniture had been removed and chairs, many of
> them provided by the local funeral home I reckon, had been placed all the
> way around the room against the walls so folks would have a place to set as
> they watched Ola kick the bucket.
>
> The room had a large fireplace with mantel in the center of one wall, and
> the way it was built as you faced it, there was sort of an alcove or inset
> just to the left of the fireplace and that was the place Ola's bed had been
> put. If you were on the far wall looking towards Ola with the fireplace on
> your right, you would not be able to see her face, unless you were standing
> pre

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most obese professions

TurquoiseB:
> You sit on your ass all day and eat junk food as you drive, what can you
expect?
>
You mean like sitting on your ass all day at a computer in your bedroom
eating French food? LoL!


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, TurquoiseB  wrote:

>
>
>
> *http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html
> 
>  *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *OK, I get the "protective services" thang. If you're a cop, or an ex-cop
> "working security" at some company or for some rich folks, you've got that
> Dunkin' Donuts Jones goin' for you, and that's a hard monkey to shake off
> your back. But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my
> father in the hospital. He was there at the time to treat his emphysema,
> caused at least partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat at his bedside and
> watched the meter of the oxygen machine he was hooked up to. It displayed
> the oxygen content of his blood, and there was a marker on the scale to
> indicate "Normal." Even though he was wearing a mask and breathing pure
> oxygen, the red bar never made it even halfway to the Normal mark. Later
> that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking lot saw *all* of
> the doctors and nurses who worked there on the Pulmonary Care Ward there,
> smoking cigarettes. They saw people like my father every day, and yet here
> they were, smoking cigarettes. Go figure. So it's not a big leap for me to
> imagine them seeing all the statistics they deal with every day about the
> health risks associated with obesity, and yet swelling up like a balloon
> themselves anyway. Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass
> all day and eat junk food as you drive, what can you expect? But
> interestingly, one of the only people I've ever met in my life *as* fat as
> the truck drivers I've seen in truck stops was Bevan Morris. He's one of
> the honchos of an organization that promises "perfect health" as the
> inevitable result of the techniques it sells. A few of the TM "Rajas" also
> rival the size of truck drivers, too. So what's up with that?*
>
>
>
> *http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html
> 
> *
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or 
> drowned baby.
 >
Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a black and white 
film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a 
practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied 
customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am 
going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin 
damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that 
is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Comments [removed]
 
 
 On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom

Thanks for posting the information,but you failed to point out the
similarities:

Shankara's Advaita claims to be based on the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita
and the Brahma Sutras, but many scholars such as Sharma and Raju have noted
that Shankara shows many signs of influence from Mahayana Buddhism,
Madhyamaka, founded by Nagarjuna, the Yogacara, founded by Vasubandhu and
Asanga. Gaudapada incorporated aspects of Buddhism into Hindusim in order
to reinterpret the Upanishads and the Brahma Sutras.

1.  Gaudapada adapted the Buddhist concept of "ajata", the doctrine of
non-origination or non-creation, from Nagarjuna's Madhyamika. Ajata is the
fundamental philosophical doctrine of Gaudapada.

2. Advaita Vedanta also adopted from the Madhyamika the idea of two levels
of reality - "two truths" - absolute and relative.

3. Gaudapada and Shankara adopted almost all of the Buddhist dialectic,
methodology, arguments and analysis, their concepts, their terminologies
and even their philosophy of the Absolute.

4. Gaudapada embraced the Buddhist idea that the nature of the world is the
four-cornered negation.

5. Gaudapada adopted the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure
consciousness.

P.S. You also did not explain the connection between the non-dualism of
Advaita Vedanta and the non-dualism of Kashmere Tantrsim.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> In Tibetan Buddhism, Nagarjuna is the most important philosophical figure.
> It is like Thomas Aquinas for Roman Catholics. Madhyamaka is the basis for
> understanding Buddhism and Vijñanavada is a close correlate.
>
> Contrary to the Tibetans, Madhyamaka is not given the same exalted status
> in the history of Chinese Buddhism. Their conclusion was that the
> eight-fold negation of Nagarjuna set the framework for a final negation of
> all elements (dharmas) of experience, whether material, psychological, or
> celestial. However, according to them, this very conclusion cannot be
> final. That is because any negation (no matter how subtle or all
> encompassing) is by definition the opposite of an affirmation - not merely
> logically but in final meaning and result. It is therefore merely relative
> and is neither final nor absolute.
>
> Consequently, Madhyamaka was superseded by various other Buddhist schools
> until Hwa-Yen became the view that encompassed all other schools and all
> other elements of experience.
>
> That view about Madhyamaka was echoed by Shankara who characterized
> Madhyamaka as shunyavada and dismissed it rather swiftly. Shankara in
> fact saved some of his most pointed criticisms for the Buddhists of his
> day, particularly Vijnanavada.
>
>
>
> In spite of this, there are parallels between some of Gaudapada's
> statements and the views of Vijnanavada because they both draw from the
> same milieu of philosophic discourse.
>
>
> This is one reason that assertions that Advaita was a secret Buddhism
> demonstrate ignorance of the issues and shallow scholarship.
>
>
>
> As pointed out by K. A. Krishnaswamy Aiyer, Buddhism and Advaita are
> fundamentally opposed in five key points:
>
>
>
> 1. Both say that the world is "unreal", but Buddhists mean that it is
> only a conceptual construct (vikalpa), while Shankara does not think that
> the world is merely conceptual.
>
>
>
> 2. Momentariness is a cardinal principal of Buddhism - consciousness
> is fundamentally momentary for them. However, in Advaita, consciousness is
> pure (shuddha), without beginning or end (anadi) and is thoroughly
> continuous. The momentariness of empirical states of consciousness overlies
> this continuity.
>
>
>
> 3. In Buddhism, the "self" is the ego (the "I") - a conceptual
> construct that is quite unreal. In Advaita, the Self is the only "really
> Real" and is the basis of all concepts.
>
>
>
> 4. In Buddhism, avidya causes us to construct continuities (such as
> the self) where there are none. In Advaita, avidya causes us instead to
> take what is unreal to be real and what is real to be unreal.
>
>
>
> 5. Removal of avidya leads to nirvana/blowning out for Buddhists but
> for Shankara it leads to perfect knowledge (vidya).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>

[FairfieldLife] Death Watch

I have told some funny stories, all true, here on FFL. This one is not so 
funny, but nonetheless still true. This happened when I was about six years 
old. And it was, and still stands today as a strange experience. It was one of 
my first experiences of death. 

I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of a pet, but I don't 
remember it. So maybe I was unprepared for death, not having had much 
experience of it, but I had never seen nor heard of a death watch.

My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what she was dying of, but she 
damn sure didn't want to go. And all her kin people were there, watching, 
waiting for her to die. (Most everyone I knew then called her "ain't Oler" or 
if she wasn't their aunt, then they just called her Oler, rhymes with roller.)

Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina called Marshville. 
Marshville would become known as the birthplace of Randy Travis and parts of 
the Steven Spielberg film The Color Purple would be filmed there 35 or so years 
in the future, but all Marshville meant to me was the place we went to see my 
great grandmother, and this time to watch Aunt Ola die. 

The community was not named Marshville because some enterprising fools had 
drained a swamp to build the town, but rather for a couple of wealthy 
benefactors named Marsh who donated a good deal of land for a community center 
and a couple churches back around the beginning of the 20th century. It had 
once been a champion area for cotton in the pre and post Civil war days, and 
still was devoted to agriculture here in the early 1960's. Many of my kin in 
the area were farmers of one sort or another.

It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like all kids have to, I had 
to do what my folks told me to do. So I found myself wandering around in a very 
large old A frame house watching all the adults behave in as strange a fashion 
as I had ever witnessed.

This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering and many a country 
Sunday meal, but now it was serving as hospice. Aunt Ola was pretty old, and it 
seemed the entire family had gathered to watch her die.

Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for years to Lee Hill, but 
he had been dead for some years by the time his wife seemed destined to join 
him in the afterlife. All her kids should have been by her side, watching her 
go to her reward, but some were absent. For one thing, she and her daughter 
Velma had fallen out over the land upon which we were standing at that moment 
and over the house Ola was dying in.

Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years at this time and was 
slated to receive the house and farm in Ola's will, which is why Gladys and 
Velma didn't get along, and the reason Velma and husband Dusty weren't there at 
the death watch. They did not in fact even attend the funeral.

The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't know who they were. All 
my great aunts and Uncles were there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that we all 
pronounced Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling wife Marge, 
philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay, upright Hoyle who made a 
living running a tobacco vending route servicing the cigarette needs of the 
community through the cigarette vending machines that were ubiquitous in those 
days and his wife Ruth, Farmer Buren who always wore a tie or bow tie and 
raised gigantic hogs on a nearby farm and his wife Ethel.

I don't remember but I reckon GT and Lilly were there too, GT being Ola's 
brother and Lilly his wife. I remember them because in later days Randy Travis 
would talk in interviews about going to GT's little general store when he was 
growing up, and after he became a famous country musician, he would always go 
visit with GT and Lilly whenever he went back home to the Marshville area, even 
after GT retired and gave up the store.

The largest room in the house, the living room, had been converted to the death 
watch area. All the furniture had been removed and chairs, many of them 
provided by the local funeral home I reckon, had been placed all the way around 
the room against the walls so folks would have a place to set as they watched 
Ola kick the bucket.

The room had a large fireplace with mantel in the center of one wall, and the 
way it was built as you faced it, there was sort of an alcove or inset just to 
the left of the fireplace and that was the place Ola's bed had been put. If you 
were on the far wall looking towards Ola with the fireplace on your right, you 
would not be able to see her face, unless you were standing pretty far down the 
wall, you could just see her torso and legs and feet under the covers.

Of course if you were standing directly facing the fireplace, you could see her 
just fine and if you stepped over to the part of the room where she was, the 
part leading into the kitchen, you could see her fine there too, cause you were 
on her side of the

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Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

If they promise to show some of the old black and white videos of Marshy 
praising Hitler, I'll go on the course. I would love to see how well we would 
all transcend after watching Marshy praise Der Fuhrer and Mussolini, and Robert 
Mugabe, and Marcos - p'raps they'll show the video of Marshy denouncing England 
as a scorpion nation, that would be quite fun too - I'd love to watch that one 
whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or drowned baby. That would be lovely.

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[FairfieldLife] Katy Perry : I start the day with Transcendental Meditation.



  Singer and pop-celebrity Katy Perry has revealed to Britain’s Marie Claire 
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/ magazine that she begins every day with a 
Transcendental Meditation session to prepare her for work:
 “I start the day with Transcendental Meditation 
http://tmhome.com/transcendental-meditation/. It puts me in the best mood. I 
wake up and just prop myself up in bed for 20 minutes. It’s the only time my 
mind gets absolute rest. When I am asleep, my subconscious mind is switched on 
and, when I am awake, I am alert.”
 The 28-year-old singer practices the technique every morning while sitting on 
her bed with her eyes closed for about 20 minutes to make sure she is relaxed 
and in a good mood before she starts work.
 Katy Perry was inspired to learn Transcendental Meditation by her ex-husband 
Russell Brand 
http://tmhome.com/transcendental-meditation-experiences-reviews-people/russell-brand-it-changes-consciousness/who
 has credited the practice for ‘changing the consciousness’. After learning TM 
in 2011, Katy Perry has fast become a similarly vocal advocate of meditation. 
During her birthday last year, she asked her fans not to bring any presents… 
but to make a donation to David Lynch Foundation 
http://tmhome.com/transcendental-meditation-news-activities-events/david-lynch-foundation-powered-by-and-for-transcendental-meditation/
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 *

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India

2014-01-23 Thread punditster

Not everyone in India is a gang rapist.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 "Home of all knowledge." A magical land protected by the Vedic gods and living 
in accord with the Laws Of Nature. A shining beacon of the possibilities 
available to lesser, far less-evolved nations. A country into which vast and 
unknown sums of money extorted from faithful TMers to create World Peace 
disappeared, never to be found again. 

 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/india-gang-rape-west-bengal_n_4650743.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/india-gang-rape-west-bengal_n_4650743.html

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Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd March 2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: "Saving Mr. Banks"

What about that Harlan Ellison review on YouTube I pointed to a month 
ago?  And we get to thank Disney for the lame DMCA, oh eyepatch. ;-)


On 01/23/2014 01:08 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger 
to be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After 
all, it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone 
whose sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of 
them I do not admire.


And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the 
script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there 
have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks 
off by the strength of their "ensemble performances" the way this one 
did. The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, 
arguing tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I 
would have imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film 
rights to her book "Mary Poppins" are pretty much unbeatable from 
start to finish. Add to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., 
Colin Farrell as her father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as 
Travers herself as a child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, 
crafting a dream.


Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and 
yes, it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that 
the Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. 
The Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson 
as Best Actress, and in my opinion she acted circles around any of the 
other nominees, or at least the ones whose films I've seen so far.


The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to 
her own adoptive grandchildren, "died loving no one and with no one 
loving her." This film showed a better side of her, one that I wish 
the old tyrant had gotten to see in life. If she had, she might have 
lightened up a bit and learned to laugh at herself a bit more, and 
thus had a happier life.

/*

[FairfieldLife] Heather Graham on emptying her mind


http://deltaskymag.delta.com/Sky-Extras/Favorites/Heather-Graham.aspx 
http://deltaskymag.delta.com/Sky-Extras/Favorites/Heather-Graham.aspx

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Most obese professions

It would be nice if it truly worked that way but it doesn't. For
instance one thing they've recently learned that if you exercise the
body will quickly return to it's metabolic rate and not stay somewhat
elevated as previously assumed. Some people can lose weight more easily
than others. Some folks can't stand to do a diet as it effects them
mentally and they can't focus at work. Some folks who are obese can
still be quite fit, especially in the legs from carrying the extra
weight around.

Metabolic rates need to be accounted for. Some people burn their carbs
faster than others or slower than others. That changes the equation too.

On 01/23/2014 01:32 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

On 01/23/2014 06:45 AM, awoelflebater@...
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
wrote:

/*http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

*/
/*
OK, I get the "protective services" thang. If you're a cop, or an
ex-cop "working security" at some company or for some rich folks,
you've got that Dunkin' Donuts Jones goin' for you, and that's a
hard monkey to shake off your back.

But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my
father in the hospital. He was there at the time to treat his
emphysema, caused at least partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat
at his bedside and watched the meter of the oxygen machine he was
hooked up to. It displayed the oxygen content of his blood, and
there was a marker on the scale to indicate "Normal." Even though
he was wearing a mask and breathing pure oxygen, the red bar
never made it even halfway to the Normal mark.

Later that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking
lot saw *all* of the doctors and nurses who worked there on the
Pulmonary Care Ward there, smoking cigarettes. They saw people
like my father every day, and yet here they were, smoking
cigarettes. Go figure. So it's not a big leap for me to imagine
them seeing all the statistics they deal with every day about the
health risks associated with obesity, and yet swelling up like a
balloon themselves anyway.

Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass all day
and eat junk food as you drive, what can you expect? But
interestingly, one of the only people I've ever met in my life
*as* fat as the truck drivers I've seen in truck stops was Bevan
Morris. He's one of the honchos of an organization that promises
"perfect health" as the inevitable result of the techniques it
sells. A few of the TM "Rajas" also rival the size of truck
drivers, too. So what's up with that?

/*http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html
*/
/*
*/
*What's up today Bawwy? Pickin' on fat folks because, why? Last
time I made a comment about diet Bhairitu got quite bent out of
shape. I wonder how he's likin' the fat jokes today. Your
contributions to this forum are just getting worse and worse. Why
not keep your drivel to places like FB? Your audience might
appreciate you more there - or not.*

Refresh my memory. Usually when I take some diet program to task
it is because it is a shotgun approach. Doctors don't know much
about nutrition unless they are diabetes specialists or make
nutrition their specialty. And I've heard radio doctor Dean
Edell who was aware of biochemical individuality say it was "too
hard" to use. Also back in the late 1970s there was the doctor
who learned of macrobiotics from a hitchhiker and used it to cure
his own cancer. But in his articles he said the problem was
getting patients to change their lifestyle to use such a program.

I think I said something like, "It's simple, work off more
calories than you consume." It wasn't anything rocket-sciency or
complex.But I think you thought my theory was a bit cavalier or
something and made a comment about me evidently never having had
weight issues in my life.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russel Brand on Sex with 2 girls with rubber, the lovely mother of Kathy Perry and Transcendental Meditation

s3raphita:
> Richard Williams thinks that Katy Perry and Howard Stern are role models
for his children!
>
So, what's wrong with Katy Perry?



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Let's be clear: Russell Brand is a total creep. His excuse is that he's
> bipolar - but Stephen Fry is also bipolar and Stephen remains a fully-paid
> up human being - intelligent, warm-hearted, witty. That fact that Brand is
> a popular celebrity tells you just how far contemporary society has lost
> its way and doesn't deserve our support. Richard Williams thinks that Katy
> Perry and Howard Stern are role models for his children! That just shows
> how fucked-up people become when they put the almighty dollar above humane
> values.
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 >
> Nabby, those others also talk extensively about spiritual experience and 
> enlightenment. Maybe some who have experiences talk about them, and some do 
> not. I just thought it was a peculiar generalisation you made. My experience 
> about people who talk of their own experiences is it creates a resonance 
> between them and their hearers, when people see others have experiences, they 
> are less likely to feel these kinds of experiences are rare or unattainable, 
> and are more likely to pursue them and feel they have a value. When I was 
> having occasional experiences of transcending in meditation many years ago, I 
> was always really interested in what people had to say about the end game, 
> about unity, realisation, even though I was not experiencing that. I think 
> what you want to inspire in people is the thought 'Well, gee, I can do that 
> too, it's not impossible after all!' 

 This is exactly why I lit into "Buck" when he tried to palm off a bunch of 
pure "movement-speak" as personal spiritual experience earlier this week. There 
was exactly *zero* attempt to communicate or to touch others in what he wrote. 
He threw around terms like "the relationship of purusha and whatever" that NO 
ONE other than someone brainwashed by decades of TM dogma and jargon would 
either be able to understand or empathize with. He could just as easily have 
termed the "relationship" he was describing as existing between floogarbs and 
dweezils. 

Dogma and jargon are *exclusionary*. Their purpose is to *distance* people not 
privy to them from what is being said, not to include them and inspire them to 
become inspired by what is being said. 

The bottom line for me is that if you can't describe your experience to others 
*in language they understand and can identify with*, you have failed miserably 
at describing the experience. 

Off with their heads!

OK, so someone fails miserably, then what? You fail miserably at coming across 
like a reasonable, loving, wise, rational, logical, understanding human being. 
Now what?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Movie review: "Saving Mr. Banks"

I enjoyed this movie too. I think it may have been a special challenge for Emma 
Thompson to play someone so uptight, so closed in. I did not know that Travers 
was even worse as a human being than as Thompson played her out.
 

 One of my earliest spiritual epiphanies occurred in the parking lot of 
Disneyland (I had been there once before, some 15 years previously). I had 
watched a lot of the real Disney on TV in my youth. Something special about 
him. I had gone to Los Angeles to look over equipment offerings at a 
convention. I ended up really exhausted, and sick. I had a half day to kill, I 
went to Disneyland in Anaheim. I went on rides. I don't remember what I ate. I 
even went through that ride some old geezer sued the park for for having 
stranded him there for a few hours - It's a small world. As I left the park, I 
felt just miserable, but in thinking about what Disney had created I experience 
an overwhelming appreciation of what he had managed to accomplish and I just 
broke down and cried in the parking lot. A huge wave of release, followed by a 
deep silence. Probably the third or fourth spiritual experience I ever had, 
just a few months after the first one I ever had. I think I must have been (and 
still am in some ways) like Travers, closed in and tight, not really realising 
just how out of the stream of life I was.
 

 I was with someone years later in an amusement park in St. Louis. She felt 
such parks were superficial, but then realised that she observed that everybody 
she was watching seemed happy - everyone, not just a few here and there. Disney 
had a good heart, and he knew how to market feeling good, or perhaps out of 
necessity, he learned how to market it. Twenty two Academy Awards, and four 
honorary ones. Not bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger to be 
reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all, it's a 
Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose sensibilities 
with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do not admire. 

And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the script was 
wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there have been exactly 
*zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off by the strength of their 
"ensemble performances" the way this one did. The combination of Emma Thompson 
as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom 
Hanks, better than I would have imagined) over whether she was going to give 
him the film rights to her book "Mary Poppins" are pretty much unbeatable from 
start to finish. Add to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin 
Farrell as her father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself 
as a child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream. 

Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and yes, it's 
manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the Academy Awards 
chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The Golden Globes, to their 
credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best Actress, and in my opinion she 
acted circles around any of the other nominees, or at least the ones whose 
films I've seen so far. 

The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to her own 
adoptive grandchildren, "died loving no one and with no one loving her." This 
film showed a better side of her, one that I wish the old tyrant had gotten to 
see in life. If she had, she might have lightened up a bit and learned to laugh 
at herself a bit more, and thus had a happier life.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Most obese professions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

On 01/23/2014 06:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

OK, I get the "protective services" thang. If you're a cop, or an ex-cop
"working security" at some company or for some rich folks, you've got that
Dunkin' Donuts Jones goin' for you, and that's a hard monkey to shake off your
back.

But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my father in the
hospital. He was there at the time to treat his emphysema, caused at least
partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat at his bedside and watched the meter of
the oxygen machine he was hooked up to. It displayed the oxygen content of his
blood, and there was a marker on the scale to indicate "Normal." Even though he
was wearing a mask and breathing pure oxygen, the red bar never made it even
halfway to the Normal mark.

Later that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking lot saw *all*
of the doctors and nurses who worked there on the Pulmonary Care Ward there,
smoking cigarettes. They saw people like my father every day, and yet here they
were, smoking cigarettes. Go figure. So it's not a big leap for me to imagine
them seeing all the statistics they deal with every day about the health risks
associated with obesity, and yet swelling up like a balloon themselves anyway.

Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass all day and eat junk
food as you drive, what can you expect? But interestingly, one of the only
people I've ever met in my life *as* fat as the truck drivers I've seen in
truck stops was Bevan Morris. He's one of the honchos of an organization that
promises "perfect health" as the inevitable result of the techniques it sells.
A few of the TM "Rajas" also rival the size of truck drivers, too. So what's up
with that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

What's up today Bawwy? Pickin' on fat folks because, why? Last time I made a
comment about diet Bhairitu got quite bent out of shape. I wonder how he's
likin' the fat jokes today. Your contributions to this forum are just getting
worse and worse. Why not keep your drivel to places like FB? Your audience
might appreciate you more there - or not.

Refresh my memory. Usually when I take some diet program to task it is
because it is a shotgun approach. Doctors don't know much about nutrition
unless they are diabetes specialists or make nutrition their specialty. And
I've heard radio doctor Dean Edell who was aware of biochemical individuality
say it was "too hard" to use. Also back in the late 1970s there was the doctor
who learned of macrobiotics from a hitchhiker and used it to cure his own
cancer. But in his articles he said the problem was getting patients to change
their lifestyle to use such a program.

I think I said something like, "It's simple, work off more calories than you
consume." It wasn't anything rocket-sciency or complex. But I think you thought
my theory was a bit cavalier or something and made a comment about me evidently
never having had weight issues in my life.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

It can work both ways. A nice experience can be uplifting but it can also make  
the listener wonder if he's doing something wrong since he never experienced 
anything in that direction. 
 

 If someone, like is often done here, is talking excessively about "silence" it 
does nothing more than exercise those laughing muscles as "silence" usually is 
experienced at within hours of doing TM :-) 
 

 This is supposed to be a forum with spiritually minded people. If you don't 
have any unique experiences fine, I repeat FINE.  It doesn't mean you're not 
doing alright. But if all you're experiencing is "silence" my suggestion would 
be to return to your Sadhana rather than bore the audience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Nabby, those others also talk extensively about spiritual experience
and enlightenment. Maybe some who have experiences talk about them, and
some do not. I just thought it was a peculiar generalisation you made.
My experience about people who talk of their own experiences is it
creates a resonance between them and their hearers, when people see
others have experiences, they are less likely to feel these kinds of
experiences are rare or unattainable, and are more likely to pursue them
and feel they have a value. When I was having occasional experiences of
transcending in meditation many years ago, I was always really
interested in what people had to say about the end game, about unity,
realisation, even though I was not experiencing that. I think what you
want to inspire in people is the thought 'Well, gee, I can do that too,
it's not impossible after all!'

This is exactly why I lit into "Buck" when he tried to palm off a bunch
of pure "movement-speak" as personal spiritual experience earlier this
week. There was exactly *zero* attempt to communicate or to touch others
in what he wrote. He threw around terms like "the relationship of
purusha and whatever" that NO ONE other than someone brainwashed by
decades of TM dogma and jargon would either be able to understand or
empathize with. He could just as easily have termed the "relationship"
he was describing as existing between floogarbs and dweezils.

Dogma and jargon are *exclusionary*. Their purpose is to *distance*
people not privy to them from what is being said, not to include them
and inspire them to become inspired by what is being said.

The bottom line for me is that if you can't describe your experience to
others *in language they understand and can identify with*, you have
failed miserably at describing the experience.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

Nabby, those others also talk extensively about spiritual experience and 
enlightenment. Maybe some who have experiences talk about them, and some do 
not. I just thought it was a peculiar generalisation you made. My experience 
about people who talk of their own experiences is it creates a resonance 
between them and their hearers, when people see others have experiences, they 
are less likely to feel these kinds of experiences are rare or unattainable, 
and are more likely to pursue them and feel they have a value. When I was 
having occasional experiences of transcending in meditation many years ago, I 
was always really interested in what people had to say about the end game, 
about unity, realisation, even though I was not experiencing that. I think what 
you want to inspire in people is the thought 'Well, gee, I can do that too, 
it's not impossible after all!'
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Yogananda certainly did to aspire a love of God in others. 
 

 Maharishi never did because it wasn't necessary since experience of meditation 
over time itself is inspirational and because He didn't want attention to 
Himself as a person. Amongst many, many other reasons.
 

 I have no idea what the two others you mention do or did.

[FairfieldLife] Movie review: "Saving Mr. Banks"

This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger to
be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all,
it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose
sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do
not admire.

And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the
script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there
have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off
by the strength of their "ensemble performances" the way this one did.
The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing
tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I would have
imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film rights to her
book "Mary Poppins" are pretty much unbeatable from start to finish. Add
to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin Farrell as her
father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself as a
child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream.

Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and yes,
it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the
Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The
Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best
Actress, and in my opinion she acted circles around any of the other
nominees, or at least the ones whose films I've seen so far.

The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to her
own adoptive grandchildren, "died loving no one and with no one loving
her." This film showed a better side of her, one that I wish the old
tyrant had gotten to see in life. If she had, she might have lightened
up a bit and learned to laugh at herself a bit more, and thus had a
happier life.

[FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation Women's Initiative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XU4ZA7W_Rc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XU4ZA7W_Rc
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5L6d61Pg0 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5L6d61Pg0
 

 Highlights from Healing and Empowering Women
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD8j-CBg-pg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD8j-CBg-pg

[FairfieldLife] Anally Challenged


 Does such a term even exist  ? The question arises since both Michael Jackson 
(!) and the Turq seem to be more than usual anally focused.
 Examples from MJ are numerous, here's the Turq today:
 "You get it after an unprotected anal probe from one of the Space Brothers.  
:-)"

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

Yogananda certainly did to aspire a love of God in others. 
 

 Maharishi never did because it wasn't necessary since experience of meditation 
over time itself is inspirational and because He didn't want attention to 
Himself as a person. Amongst many, many other reasons.
 

 I have no idea what the two others you mention do or did.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

Yes, absolutely what we need are numbers meditating now. Evidently one percent 
of the total for a change. And not let these ignorant anti-science, 
anti-meditation, meditation-quitters and -haters and non-meditators get in the 
way of and dissuade progress for us all. Talk about a null set bunch of 
theorists. Yes, just a bunch of spiritually damned sophists in effect trying 
their damnedest to hold us up. 
 Let's just get going with what we know. Based on plenty good and now way more 
than preliminary science, people everywhere should be learning transcending 
meditation and coming to group meditations nearby them. This meditation is now 
good science and should be good public policy for so many good reasons. Don't 
let the promotion of such simple and plain spiritual good like transcending 
meditation be derailed by the ignorant hooliganisms of these few misanthropes 
that troll the internet all days long with their own stuck in the past 
negativity.   As always, good practical advice warns, 'Consider the source' and 
protect yourSelf. These anti-meditators are as vile as they are delusional in 
their virtue. -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 Anartaxius write:

 There is a fourth possibility, that the term 'support of all the laws of 
nature' has an essential meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning 
such as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can experience that the laws of 
nature support your little body and the world and the universe, but you do not 
gain any personal control over them than you had before getting involved in 
spiritual practice.
 

 It does appear to be a fact the world is in no better shape than before M, 
before Christ, before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that there 
are many other groups doing group spiritual practices, and that doesn't seem to 
change things either. TM movement science generally seems to be biased in 
certain ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific consensus, and 
most of the studies are too small. They largely seem to me to be designed to be 
used as marketing material; they are never done with the idea that the null 
hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does something, what is 
not clear is exactly what that something is in the broad range it is said to 
influence. It seems well established that it creates changes in brain wave 
patterns; beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would try to 
find out where it does not work as well as where it does, but you never see 
movement figures, scientist or otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., 
shows no effect.

[FairfieldLife] At band camp....

If  you've seen "American Pie" you probably remember the Michele 
character and her speech pattern:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH619vxtNdo

Back then it would have been known as "Valley Speak" and of course the 
movie was mocking it.  Fast forward and it has been relabeled "Upspeak" 
(Brits call it "High Rising Terminal") and many people find it very 
annoying.  It is basically talking as if every sentence is a question 
even when it is not.  Okay, so why should I care if some millennials 
talk this way?  This week I heard two professionals on talk radio (I 
think both were on NPR) speaking this way and one was even a medical expert!

A talk presentation coach on the phenomena:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdhJxAmUu3Y

A comedian mocks the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PoIixzsKo

Another sign of  the collapse of civilization?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

You mean like, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti, Yogananda, 
guys like that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 People with few or weak experiences of a spiritual nature tend to speak/write 
more about it than others.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

There are over 1500 FFL members who are good at expressing their 
experience of silence on this board. :-D

On 01/22/2014 11:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> On 01/22/2014 12:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > */But almost no one writes about the spiritual experiences they have
> > on a daily basis. /*
>
> Perhaps because they aren't narcissistic enough to want to brag 
about them?

>
> Or do you really want to read a bunch of noise about silence? :-D

*/Interestingly, teachers in the past have never shirked from the 
basically impossible task of trying to express silence. Some have done 
it quite eloquently, like the Zen masters and poets of Japan, who 
managed to turn the subjective experience of silence into high art.

/*
> Perhaps those who are experiencing enlightenment would like to talk
> about the application of that such as perceptions of global or local
> political events. Or the weather. Or food. Or football..

*/Perhaps they'd rather not even try, out of fear of not being able to 
convey their experience in a way that could touch another human being 
and possibly inspire them.

/*

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

You mean like Benjy Creme?

On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Being *afraid* to write about one's spiritual 
experience
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 8:06 PM

   People with few or weak experiences of a
 spiritual nature tend to speak/write more about it than
 others.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Most obese professions

On 01/23/2014 06:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

/*http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my father
in the hospital. He was there at the time to treat his emphysema,
caused at least partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat at his bedside
and watched the meter of the oxygen machine he was hooked up to. It
displayed the oxygen content of his blood, and there was a marker on
the scale to indicate "Normal." Even though he was wearing a mask and
breathing pure oxygen, the red bar never made it even halfway to the
Normal mark.

Later that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking lot
saw *all* of the doctors and nurses who worked there on the Pulmonary
Care Ward there, smoking cigarettes. They saw people like my father
every day, and yet here they were, smoking cigarettes. Go figure. So
it's not a big leap for me to imagine them seeing all the statistics
they deal with every day about the health risks associated with
obesity, and yet swelling up like a balloon themselves anyway.

Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass all day and
eat junk food as you drive, what can you expect? But interestingly,
one of the only people I've ever met in my life *as* fat as the truck
drivers I've seen in truck stops was Bevan Morris. He's one of the
honchos of an organization that promises "perfect health" as the
inevitable result of the techniques it sells. A few of the TM "Rajas"
also rival the size of truck drivers, too. So what's up with that?

*/
/*http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html
*/

/*
*/
*What's up today Bawwy? Pickin' on fat folks because, why? Last time I
made a comment about diet Bhairitu got quite bent out of shape. I
wonder how he's likin' the fat jokes today. Your contributions to this
forum are just getting worse and worse. Why not keep your drivel to
places like FB? Your audience might appreciate you more there - or not.*

Refresh my memory. Usually when I take some diet program to task it is
because it is a shotgun approach. Doctors don't know much about
nutrition unless they are diabetes specialists or make nutrition their
specialty. And I've heard radio doctor Dean Edell who was aware of
biochemical individuality say it was "too hard" to use. Also back in the
late 1970s there was the doctor who learned of macrobiotics from a
hitchhiker and used it to cure his own cancer. But in his articles he
said the problem was getting patients to change their lifestyle to use
such a program.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

I think of them more as Movement figurines. 

On Thu, 1/23/14, anartax...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t  peace: 
Transcendental Meditat ion
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 7:23 PM

   There is a fourth possibility, that the term
 'support of all the laws of nature' has an essential
 meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning such
 as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can
 experience that the laws of nature support your little body
 and the world and the universe, but you do not gain any
 personal control over them than you had before getting
 involved in spiritual practice.
 It does appear to be a fact the
 world is in no better shape than before M, before Christ,
 before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that
 there are many other groups doing group spiritual practices,
 and that doesn't seem to change things either. TM
 movement science generally seems to be biased in certain
 ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific
 consensus, and most of the studies are too small. They
 largely seem to me to be designed to be used as marketing
 material; they are never done with the idea that the null
 hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does
 something,
 what is not clear is exactly what that something is in the
 broad range it is said to influence. It seems well
 established that it creates changes in brain wave patterns;
 beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would
 try to find out where it does not work as well as where it
 does, but you never see movement figures, scientist or
 otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., shows no
 effect.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

cause the subject matter makes us think of you nabby

On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast  peace: 
Transcendental Meditation
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 6:39 PM

   "You get
 it after an unprotected anal probe from one of the Space
 Brothers. 
 :-)"
 Why is it that the two most ardent
 "critics" of Maharishi here on FFL also
 both are anally centered ? :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

People with few or weak experiences of a spiritual nature tend to speak/write 
more about it than others.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience



 I would agree that spiritual experiences are not part of a contest, but still, 
I do not recall ever having heard Judy talk of hers while I have been on FFL. 
Obviously if someone did not have experiences, they might be a bit shy about 
it. But Judy never appears to be shy. Here is an example of what Ravi said of 
mine:
 Grandpa Xeno -it's perfectly OK for you to share your experiences with the 
emotionally, psychologically stunted like Uncle Tantrum and Aunt Share, but 
please, I repeat DO NOT share your psychotically enlightened experiences with 
normal people.

 


 STAY AWAY FROM CIVILIZATION !!!

and Oh Xeno you are so clueless to how you use inane platitudes to make up for 
your bias.

and Well we all know Xeno's an idiot and I assumed he didn't mean anything here 
and that he was being who he is - an idiot totally stuck in his head, in his 
beliefs that he is very slow to receive reality, to relate empathetically - 
especially to strong, mature women.

When you relate your experiences, ideas, etc., in this place, FFL, you can 
expect to get a lot of flak. (in fairness I also tried to find some quotes by 
Barry slamming me, but Neo would not co-operate, giving me error messages. (By 
the way I stumbled by accident on the old interface. I was using AT&T mail 
which uses Yahoo's mail system. I was logged in under an account I used for 
business some weeks ago, and I took a peek at FFL when I was logged in under 
that username, and the original interface appeared, unchanged. As the search 
function was much more pliable under that interface, maybe I should try to find 
it again.)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Um, no, Barry, nice try, but no cigar. I simply don't feel that your "contest" 
formulation is appropriate with regard to spiritual experiences. To turn them 
into a narcissistic ego-battle degrades the whole notion of spirituality. That 
this is what you advocate is odd indeed considering how you've railed against 
perceived egotism as incompatible with genuine spirituality.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

There is a fourth possibility, that the term 'support of all the laws of 
nature' has an essential meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning 
such as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can experience that the laws of 
nature support your little body and the world and the universe, but you do not 
gain any personal control over them than you had before getting involved in 
spiritual practice.
 

 It does appear to be a fact the world is in no better shape than before M, 
before Christ, before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that there 
are many other groups doing group spiritual practices, and that doesn't seem to 
change things either. TM movement science generally seems to be biased in 
certain ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific consensus, and 
most of the studies are too small. They largely seem to me to be designed to be 
used as marketing material; they are never done with the idea that the null 
hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does something, what is 
not clear is exactly what that something is in the broad range it is said to 
influence. It seems well established that it creates changes in brain wave 
patterns; beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would try to 
find out where it does not work as well as where it does, but you never see 
movement figures, scientist or otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., 
shows no effect.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

"You get it after an unprotected anal probe from one of the Space Brothers.  
:-)"
 

 Why is it that the two most ardent "critics" of Maharishi here on FFL also 
both are anally centered ? :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Stunning photos of the surface of Mars

WOW - nice find !

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditation

P.S. - How do you propose to get one percent of the world meditating when 
Marshy himself couldn't do it in 60 years? And he was supposedly enlightened 
and we all know from his own definition of enlightenment that when one becomes 
enlightened, one gets support from all the laws of nature. So either Marshy was 
not enlightened, or the laws of nature took a 60 year holiday. Or MArshy was 
not enlightened and his real desire had nothing to do with one percent creating 
world peace, but lining his own pockets - I vote for door number three.

On Thu, 1/23/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideas t  peace: 
Transcendental Meditation
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 3:40 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
How long?  Until we get one percent of
the world taking quiet time to practice a transcending
 meditation we
are not going to stop until we achieve this and no
 spiritually
apathetic dried up old science-hating ignorant fools like
 some even
here are going to obstruct our progress towards our highly
altruistic spiritual and science-based goals.  This is a
 new
movement  and I invite you to get in line in formation with
 group
meditation again near you; to be of help and not just sit
 in some
field of cynicism out by your sorry self.  

It iscertainly time now to regather and to not be bound by
 a past
but come forward again to help each other together with
 meditation. 
The goal is to get one percent of the population everywhere
 taking
quiet time to meditate for the field affect of inner peace
 and love
of a spiritual coherence that effective transcending
 meditation
generates inside and outside everywhere.  Clearly the
 science says
that you can at the least  be of help to your own self,
 that should
appeal to someones like some of you.  All that we are
 saying is,
give Peace a chance.  And, at least don't obstruct
 peace for the
large community.  

The TM program is there to support your meditation and
 world peace
everywhere.  You could be of especial help by joining a
 group
transcending meditation near you.  Pick your Self up and
 come to
meditation, and at the least coordinate for world peace
 with
meditations near you.  This is a call for activation of
 your Self. 
You can be of great help to your small-ass self and yet of
 great
help to others in a much larger way in the practice of
 effective and
coordinated transcending meditation, that is clear science
 and the
clear science of peace-activism.  Come be of help, for a
 change,
-Buck in the Dome      
   
 
 salyavin808 writes:
 
 
 Then either do
 it or shut up about it.
 How
 many more decades of fundraising are there going to be
 before the TMO puts the money it collected into an actual
 group that actually brings peace?
 I
 think the whole thing is a crock of shit but it's very
 easy to demonstrate but wait, they have demonstrated it! You
 yourself have posted endless posts about how many hundreds
 of thousands have learned TM & YF, and all the yagyas
 (claimed to be much more powerful by the TMO) and yet there
 is still the occasional bit of trouble in the
 Mid-East.
 Maybe
 you want to explain why what you've done so far
 hasn't worked before you start conning the faithful out
 of their remaining few bucks for another
 "coherence" creating group.
 It's
 very easy and you claim to have already done it. In fact I
 remember Marshy saying that Sat Yuga was here but I'll
 put that down to the ramblings of a senile and deluded old
 man. But what to put your ramblings down to after all these
 years?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditation

Buck there is no science behind this, expect fake science. Like I said and you 
continue to ignore, while large segments of the world's population may be 
ignorant about certain things and while most of the governments of the world 
are run by greedy bastards, not everyone is completely stupid.

IF this so-called "technology" was proven, the Third World countries would ALL 
mandate that every single one if their citizens above the age of 12 would be 
instructed into TMSP and daily practice would be MANDATORY. 

There would be Domes in every town and village. Thus, the countries would be 
safe, as no enemy could possibly be born, all poverty would magically 
disappear, all the current users and abusers would either suddenly die, leave 
the country or become nice people. The rains would come in time, the crops 
would be plentiful, Monsanto would be kicked out of all such countries, all GMO 
crops would be burnt and only organic produce would be grown. All Third World 
countries would become living authentic paradises where everyone would be 
healthy and happy, and all would live to a ripe old age, happily. 

Unfortunately, none of this will ever happen because Maha's assertion that 
group TMSP can create world peace was and is a big fat lie, a marketing ploy on 
the part of his holy high muckety muck to rake in the cash for TMSP and yagya 
performing groups that never appeared cuz the money went to Marshy, Girish and 
the Srivastavas brothers. 

I suggest you take Awoelflebater's advice and stare into the eyes of one of 
your sheep till you get enlightened or see the sheep as a saint or something 
that could actually happen. Cause there is a much higher likelihood of you 
getting enlightened through sheep staring than there is of world peace coming 
from TMSP in group. 

On Thu, 1/23/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideas t  peace: 
Transcendental Meditation
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 3:40 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
     How long?  Until we get one percent of
     the world taking quiet time to practice a transcending
 meditation we
     are not going to stop until we achieve this and no
 spiritually
     apathetic dried up old science-hating ignorant fools like
 some even
     here are going to obstruct our progress towards our highly
     altruistic spiritual and science-based goals.  This is a
 new
     movement  and I invite you to get in line in formation with
 group
     meditation again near you; to be of help and not just sit
 in some
     field of cynicism out by your sorry self.  
     
     It iscertainly time now to regather and to not be bound by
 a past
     but come forward again to help each other together with
 meditation. 
     The goal is to get one percent of the population everywhere
 taking
     quiet time to meditate for the field affect of inner peace
 and love
     of a spiritual coherence that effective transcending
 meditation
     generates inside and outside everywhere.  Clearly the
 science says
     that you can at the least  be of help to your own self,
 that should
     appeal to someones like some of you.  All that we are
 saying is,
     give Peace a chance.  And, at least don't obstruct
 peace for the
     large community.  
     
     The TM program is there to support your meditation and
 world peace
     everywhere.  You could be of especial help by joining a
 group
     transcending meditation near you.  Pick your Self up and
 come to
     meditation, and at the least coordinate for world peace
 with
     meditations near you.  This is a call for activation of
 your Self. 
     You can be of great help to your small-ass self and yet of
 great
     help to others in a much larger way in the practice of
 effective and
     coordinated transcending meditation, that is clear science
 and the
     clear science of peace-activism.  Come be of help, for a
 change,
     -Buck in the Dome      
   
 
 salyavin808 writes:
 
 
 Then either do
 it or shut up about it.
 How
 many more decades of fundraising are there going to be
 before the TMO puts the money it collected into an actual
 group that actually brings peace?
 I
 think the whole thing is a crock of shit but it's very
 easy to demonstrate but wait, they have demonstrated it! You
 yourself have posted endless posts about how many hundreds
 of thousands have learned TM & YF, and all the yagyas
 (claimed to be much more powerful by the TMO) and yet there
 is still the occasional bit of trouble in the
 Mid-East.
 Maybe
 you want to explain why what you've done so far
 hasn't worked before you start conning the faithful out
 of their remaining few bucks for another
 "coherence" creating group.
 It's
 very easy and you claim to have already done it. In fact I
 remember Marshy saying that Sat Yuga was here but I'll
 put that down

[FairfieldLife] RE: Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

Um, no, Barry, nice try, but no cigar. I simply don't feel that your "contest" 
formulation is appropriate with regard to spiritual experiences. To turn them 
into a narcissistic ego-battle degrades the whole notion of spirituality. That 
this is what you advocate is odd indeed considering how you've railed against 
perceived egotism as incompatible with genuine spirituality.
 

 "Would you even *know* about the possibility of sidhis or enlightenment if 
people who had witnessed or experienced these phenomena hadn't 'manned up' and 
admitted having seen/experienced them?" Were these people bent on winning a 
spiritual-experiences contest? Somehow I don't think so.
 

 "I mean, we have someone who has a documented history of almost *never* being 
brave enough to write or talk about details of her own life..." This, as you 
know, is entirely false. I've often written about the details of my life.

 

 "...the woman whose reason for never talking about the experiences she 
considers 'spiritual...'" As I've already pointed out, I have talked about 
experiences I've had that I consider spiritual. That was in the Good Old Days 
before Barry insisted on making a contest out of it.

 

 (And remember, folks, Barry claims that he never reads my posts. How, then, 
can he know what I write about and what I don't?)
 
 

 As I noted before, no attempt at distraction or misdirection by Barry can 
obscure the facts: According to him, writing about spiritual experiences on 
this forum should be a contest in which there are winners and losers.

 

 I don't think Barry intended originally for it to become evident that this was 
what underlay his exhortation for folks to write about their experiences. He 
did intend to make it a contest if he could get people to do this writing, but 
he didn't want them to know this beforehand. It slipped out accidentally bit by 
bit in his desperate attempts to demonize me, and now there's nothing he can do 
about it--it's on the record.
  

 Since I started this topic, why don't I deal with the diversion created by 
someone who doesn't think much of the idea? In her latest post, she as much as 
admitted that the reason she doesn't write about any of her spiritual 
experiences (*supposed* spiritual experiences...I think pretty much everyone 
here doubts that they even exist) is that she's AFRAID to. 

She's AFRAID that doing so will subject her (and the others she is trying to 
infect with her own fear) will render them "subject to critiques by the group." 
She feels that others -- in her mind as fearful as herself -- will not be 
"encouraged by this approach to post their spiritual experiences." 

Stepping outside the tiny, tiny box of fear she's walled herself into, let's 
discuss the larger point. That is, that pretty much *everything* we know about 
"spirituality" and "the spiritual path" was told to us by people who either did 
*NOT* feel these fears, or who just "manned up" (or "womyn-up, if you're a 
pseudo-feminist) and went all Nike on the task's ass, and Just Did It. 

Think about it. 

Would you even *know* about the possibility of sidhis or enlightenment if 
people who had witnessed or experienced these phenomena hadn't "manned up" and 
admitted having seen/experienced them? Think of the "critiques" THEY 
encountered. Did that dismay them? No, it did not. 

*Of course* people are going to react critically to things that are outliers to 
their everyday experience. *Of course* some of them are going to 'diss the 
people saying these things. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. THIS IS THE WAY 
IT WILL ALWAYS BE. GET OVER IT. 

If you've had experiences that you consider spiritual, *what does it MATTER* 
what anyone else thinks of them? If your *intent* is to inspire others, and to 
present to them even the *possibility* of such things happening, *what does it 
MATTER* how they react?

If they "get" what you're saying, or writing about, cool. If they don't, cool. 
If the experiences you feel are "spiritual" really *were* -- for you -- *what 
does it MATTER* what ANYONE thinks of them?

Seems to me that this a pretty wussy argument being proposed to FFLers by Ms. 
I'm Terrified To Every Write About Something I Considered Spiritual. I mean, we 
have someone who has a documented history of almost *never* being brave enough 
to write or talk about details of her own life trying to convince others on 
this forum that this is the way that *they* should conduct their lives, too. 
After all, they wouldn't want to expose themselves to "critiques," would they?

Duh. Does she strike you as *happy*?

If no one ever had -- if *everyone* in history had thought the fearful way she  
does -- NONE of you on this forum would ever have even *heard* of the things 
that you now regard as "spiritual." The *silence* coming from the wussies who 
were terrified of "critiques" would have been the only thing you ever heard. Or 
didn't hear. 

Your call, FFLers. If you wish to align yourself with the woman whose

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

Yeah. Eventually the distinction between spiritual and not-spiritual just goes 
away. But you do have to pay some attention to what you do because nature does 
what it does. For example, walking behind a horse might inspire a little more 
caution than usual.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: Precisely, this 
is the point I am trying to make. The point being that "spiritual" experiences 
do not stand alone or isolated. They are not separate from the rest of what 
goes on in my day. Maybe I am the only one here who feels this. What would that 
mean? Perhaps when one tries to explain what one feels it is impossible to do 
so in words or in a manner that anyone else can understand. It is all just 
experience, it is all miraculous (for me), experiences are not defined in my 
mind as either spiritual or not. Some here seem to think spiritual has to mean 
things like: great bliss, effortlessness, feeling energy from being in the 
presence of 'saints' or from meditational practices, feeling detached and 
unmoved by activity, experiencing that one is part of everything else etc. etc. 
These things aren't spiritual, they're just stuff happening. If you can't be 
moved, amazed and blown away by the the seemingly simplest thing then you 
aren't "getting it". And reading about this stuff in books is a piss poor way 
to live it.

[FairfieldLife] Stunning photos of the surface of Mars

These are amazing. I've never seen anything like them. Check out the sunset!
 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/01/23/the_exhibition_spirit_opportunity_10_years_roving_across_mars_at_the_smithsonian.html
 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/01/23/the_exhibition_spirit_opportunity_10_years_roving_across_mars_at_the_smithsonian.html

[FairfieldLife] Being afraid to write about one's spiritual experience

Since I started this topic, why don't I deal with the diversion created
by someone who doesn't think much of the idea? In her latest post, she
as much as admitted that the reason she doesn't write about any of her
spiritual experiences (*supposed* spiritual experiences...I think pretty
much everyone here doubts that they even exist) is that she's AFRAID to.

She's AFRAID that doing so will subject her (and the others she is
trying to infect with her own fear) will render them "subject to
critiques by the group." She feels that others -- in her mind as fearful
as herself -- will not be "encouraged by this approach to post their
spiritual experiences."

Stepping outside the tiny, tiny box of fear she's walled herself into,
let's discuss the larger point. That is, that pretty much *everything*
we know about "spirituality" and "the spiritual path" was told to us by
people who either did *NOT* feel these fears, or who just "manned up"
(or "womyn-up, if you're a pseudo-feminist) and went all Nike on the
task's ass, and Just Did It.

Think about it.

Would you even *know* about the possibility of sidhis or enlightenment
if people who had witnessed or experienced these phenomena hadn't
"manned up" and admitted having seen/experienced them? Think of the
"critiques" THEY encountered. Did that dismay them? No, it did not.

*Of course* people are going to react critically to things that are
outliers to their everyday experience. *Of course* some of them are
going to 'diss the people saying these things. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S
ALWAYS BEEN. THIS IS THE WAY IT WILL ALWAYS BE. GET OVER IT.

If you've had experiences that you consider spiritual, *what does it
MATTER* what anyone else thinks of them? If your *intent* is to inspire
others, and to present to them even the *possibility* of such things
happening, *what does it MATTER* how they react?

If they "get" what you're saying, or writing about, cool. If they don't,
cool. If the experiences you feel are "spiritual" really *were* -- for
you -- *what does it MATTER* what ANYONE thinks of them?

Seems to me that this a pretty wussy argument being proposed to FFLers
by Ms. I'm Terrified To Every Write About Something I Considered
Spiritual. I mean, we have someone who has a documented history of
almost *never* being brave enough to write or talk about details of her
own life trying to convince others on this forum that this is the way
that *they* should conduct their lives, too. After all, they wouldn't
want to expose themselves to "critiques," would they?

Duh. Does she strike you as *happy*?

If no one ever had -- if *everyone* in history had thought the fearful
way she  does -- NONE of you on this forum would ever have even *heard*
of the things that you now regard as "spiritual." The *silence* coming
from the wussies who were terrified of "critiques" would have been the
only thing you ever heard. Or didn't hear.

Your call, FFLers. If you wish to align yourself with the woman whose
reason for never talking about the experiences she considers "spiritual"
is basically FEAR OF CRITIQUES, well, I wish you well. May you live with
her in an ongoing state of fear.

For the others, those who "have a pair" (even if the pair is ovaries), I
think most people would think more of you if you just showed them from
time to time, instead of just hiding them in your panties out of fear.
And ya never know...your exercise in getting past your own fears and
describing cool things that most people have not experienced -- or have
not *yet* experienced -- might "spread them around," and inspire others
to experience them, too.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

FWIW, Thomas's "awakening" happened only three months before he died at the age 
of 49, so he didn't get much chance to enjoy it.
 
 << Xeno, as usual all I can do is say thank you for this post; for the story 
of St. Thomas >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

Note that Barry, um, prefers not to address the issue of writing about 
spiritual experiences as a contest with "winners" and "losers," instead 
characterizing my presentation of what he himself has stated as an "attack."

 But if you read what I wrote below, you'll see that I said nothing negative 
about his position, nor did I criticize it. I simply stated his position and 
asked for others' opinions of it.

 So why is he so upset? Why is he so afraid of what others might think of him 
that he has to try to distract attention from the issue of his own position by 
attacking me?

 I think what particularly galls him is that I've never felt the need to be 
able to write "creatively," about spiritual experiences or anything else. Nor 
have I ever felt that makes me a lesser person than Barry. I have plenty of 
other skills and abilities, including many that Barry lacks. I'm happy with 
those. It almost seems as if Barry is so intimidated by my skills that he has 
to make this huge deal of a skill that he has (more or less) and that I lack, 
in order to feel better about himself and exalt his own self-image in the eyes 
of others.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Every word written as Yet Another Attack, Yet Another Attempt To Entice Others 
On This Forum To Attack Barry ("we all *should*, actually"), and Yet Another 
Excuse for why she's terrified to ever try to write creatively. This is what 
being a long-term editor *does* to a person. Either that, or what being a 
long-term TMer *does* to a person.  :-)

Then again, maybe it's just living in New Jersey. :-)

Wouldn't it have been easier to overcome her fears and Just Do It?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> I find it fascinating--we all should, actually--that Barry thinks of writing 
> about spiritual experiences on FFL in terms of a contest with "winners" and 
> "losers," and believes that such posts should be subject to critiques by the 
> group. 
> 
> I'd be interested to know if anyone here feels encouraged by this approach to 
> post their spiritual experiences. 
> 
> I'd also be interested to know if anyone here believes they are competent to 
> critique such posts (see Barry's three criteria for judgment below). 
> 
> 
> 
> And the simple reason is ego, and ego-protectiveness, the very qualities that 
> *prohibit* and *block* both the having of and the expression of spiritual 
> experience. 
> 
> If Judy were to declare some experience she once had "spiritual," she'd open 
> herself up to people like herself -- "editors." These strangers get to decide 
> whether 1) the thing she describes could be described by even one fellow 
> human being as "spiritual," 2) whether she did a good (or even competent) job 
> of describing the experience, and 3) whether any of it was worth reading in 
> the first place. Not gonna happen. She's got too much invested in her 
> imaginary "image" to ever risk that. 
> 
> Meanwhile, those of us with no real "image" to protect can write Whatever The 
> Fuck We Want. 
> 
> All in all, I think we win. :-)
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, as usual all I can do is say thank you for this post; for the story of 
St. Thomas; for using the word 
 peccadilloes so pertinently; for conveying how even wood and smog are topics 
and even realities that are suffused with what I'm calling Beingness. Stay 
warm...
 

 It was minus 5 when I went to the Dome and 4 above when I got out. Amazing 
what a difference 9 degrees can make!

 
 
 On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   I have a fireplace, and sometimes burn wood, but unless a fireplace designed 
for heating a room is installed, it does not make much difference to the 
heating bill. In addition I have to buy wood. There are lots of trees around 
but they are either on other's property, in parks, or in open space set aside 
by conservation groups. Smog is not a problem where I live.
 

 The disconnexion between the me and the world is always an interesting 
experience, sometimes like the Berlin Wall, but some day it should go. When it 
went for me, I did not realise what had happened for decades, I thought that I 
was basically back to square one when all experiences evaporated. My attention 
turned outward and for most of that period, my interest in reading and engaging 
in 'spiritual' things, etc., pretty much vanished. And then one day I realised 
that gap between inner and outer really was never there in the first place, and 
it took another five or so years to get comfortable with that understanding. 
 

 The 'understanding' is just an overlay on experience that eventually lets the 
mind feel settled in what's going on. Because of my particular upbringing and 
entry in spirituality was very tangential to religion, my experiences tended to 
not be coloured with religious overtones. For example if you read what Buck is 
writing (or copying) these days, you can see his understanding is steeped in 
religious soup. But, in fact, spiritual experience is ultimately undefined, and 
so even as M said, you can see it in the light of anything, and ones' 
individual preferences and peccadilloes will shape the understanding that 
evolves. An understanding has to evolve to feel settled in this because 
whatever understanding one has prior to this is blown out of the water. Advice 
from others is helpful, but basically you are on your own in the end stages and 
it is up to you how you co-ordinate your experience and understanding, for now 
you have realised what the illusion you were operating under was, what the hoax 
was.
 

 Precisely, this is the point I am trying to make. The point being that 
"spiritual" experiences do not stand alone or isolated. They are not separate 
from the rest of what goes on in my day. Maybe I am the only one here who feels 
this. What would that mean? Perhaps when one tries to explain what one feels it 
is impossible to do so in words or in a manner that anyone else can understand. 
It is all just experience, it is all miraculous (for me), experiences are not 
defined in my mind as either spiritual or not. Some here seem to think 
spiritual has to mean things like: great bliss, effortlessness, feeling energy 
from being in the presence of 'saints' or from meditational practices, feeling 
detached and unmoved by activity, experiencing that one is part of everything 
else etc. etc. These things aren't spiritual, they're just stuff happening. If 
you can't be moved, amazed and blown away by the the seemingly simplest thing 
then you aren't "getting it". And reading about this stuff in books is a piss 
poor way to live it.
 

 Here (from Wikipedia) is the tale of the awakening of St. Thomas, the 'doctor' 
of the Catholic Church:
 

 In 1272 Thomas took leave from the University of Paris when the Dominicans 
from his home province called upon him to establish a studium generale wherever 
he liked and staff it as he pleased. He chose to establish the institution in 
Naples, and moved there to take his post as regent master. He took his time at 
Naples to work on the third part of the Summa while giving lectures on various 
religious topics. On 6 December 1273 at the Dominican convent of Naples in the 
Chapel of Saint Nicholas after Matins Thomas lingered and was seen by the 
sacristan Domenic of Caserta to be levitating in prayer with tears before an 
icon of the crucified Christ. Christ said to Thomas, "You have written well of 
me, Thomas. What reward would you have for your labor?" Thomas responded, 
"Nothing but you, Lord."  After this exchange something happened, but Thomas 
never spoke of it or wrote it down. Because of what he saw, he abandoned his 
routine and refused to dictate to his socius Reginald of Piperno. When Reginald 
begged him to get back to work, Thomas replied: "Reginald, I cannot, because 
all that I have written seems like straw to me" (mihi videtur ut palea). What 
exactly triggered Thomas's change in behavior is believed by Catholics to have 
been some kind of supernatural

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

Every word written as Yet Another Attack, Yet Another Attempt To Entice
Others On This Forum To Attack Barry ("we all *should*, actually"), and
Yet Another Excuse for why she's terrified to ever try to write
creatively. This is what being a long-term editor *does* to a person.
Either that, or what being a long-term TMer *does* to a person.  :-)

Then again, maybe it's just living in New Jersey. :-)

Wouldn't it have been easier to overcome her fears and Just Do It?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I find it fascinating--we all should, actually--that Barry thinks of
writing about spiritual experiences on FFL in terms of a contest with
"winners" and "losers," and believes that such posts should be subject
to critiques by the group.
>
>  I'd be interested to know if anyone here feels encouraged by this
approach to post their spiritual experiences.
>
>  I'd also be interested to know if anyone here believes they are
competent to critique such posts (see Barry's three criteria for
judgment below).
>
>
>
>  And the simple reason is ego, and ego-protectiveness, the very
qualities that *prohibit* and *block* both the having of and the
expression of spiritual experience.
>
> If Judy were to declare some experience she once had "spiritual,"
she'd open herself up to people like herself -- "editors." These
strangers get to decide whether 1) the thing she describes could be
described by even one fellow human being as "spiritual," 2) whether she
did a good (or even competent) job of describing the experience, and 3)
whether any of it was worth reading in the first place. Not gonna
happen. She's got too much invested in her imaginary "image" to ever
risk that.
>
> Meanwhile, those of us with no real "image" to protect can write
Whatever The Fuck We Want.
>
> All in all, I think we win.  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

I find it fascinating--we all should, actually--that Barry thinks of writing 
about spiritual experiences on FFL in terms of a contest with "winners" and 
"losers," and believes that such posts should be subject to critiques by the 
group.
 

 I'd be interested to know if anyone here feels encouraged by this approach to 
post their spiritual experiences.
 

 I'd also be interested to know if anyone here believes they are competent to 
critique such posts (see Barry's three criteria for judgment below).
 

 
 And the simple reason is ego, and ego-protectiveness, the very qualities that 
*prohibit* and *block* both the having of and the expression of spiritual 
experience. 

If Judy were to declare some experience she once had "spiritual," she'd open 
herself up to people like herself -- "editors." These strangers get to decide 
whether 1) the thing she describes could be described by even one fellow human 
being as "spiritual," 2) whether she did a good (or even competent) job of 
describing the experience, and 3) whether any of it was worth reading in the 
first place. Not gonna happen. She's got too much invested in her imaginary 
"image" to ever risk that. 

Meanwhile, those of us with no real "image" to protect can write Whatever The 
Fuck We Want. 

All in all, I think we win.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

2014-01-23 Thread Share Long

Xeno, as usual all I can do is say thank you for this post; for the story of 
St. Thomas; for using the word 

peccadilloes so pertinently; for conveying how even wood and smog are topics 
and even realities that are suffused with what I'm calling Beingness. Stay 
warm...

It was minus 5 when I went to the Dome and 4 above when I got out. Amazing what 
a difference 9 degrees can make!

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

I have a fireplace, and sometimes burn wood, but unless a fireplace designed 
for heating a room is installed, it does not make much difference to the 
heating bill. In addition I have to buy wood. There are lots of trees around 
but they are either on other's property, in parks, or in open space set aside 
by conservation groups. Smog is not a problem where I live.

The disconnexion between the me and the world is always an interesting 
experience, sometimes like the Berlin Wall, but some day it should go. When it 
went for me, I did not realise what had happened for decades, I thought that I 
was basically back to square one when all experiences evaporated. My attention 
turned outward and for most of that period, my interest in reading and engaging 
in 'spiritual' things, etc., pretty much vanished. And then one day I realised 
that gap between inner and outer really was never there in the first place, and 
it took another five or so years to get comfortable with that understanding. 

The 'understanding' is just an overlay on experience that eventually lets the 
mind feel settled in what's going on. Because of my particular upbringing and 
entry in spirituality was very tangential to religion, my experiences tended to 
not be coloured with religious overtones. For example if you read what Buck is 
writing (or copying) these days, you can see his understanding is steeped in 
religious soup. But, in fact, spiritual experience is ultimately undefined, and 
so even as M said, you can see it in the light of anything, and ones' 
individual preferences and peccadilloes will shape the understanding that 
evolves. An understanding has to evolve to feel settled in this because 
whatever understanding one has prior to this is blown out of the water. Advice 
from others is helpful, but basically you are on your own in the end stages and 
it is up to you how you co-ordinate your experience and understanding, for now 
you have realised what the illusion you
 were operating under was, what the hoax was.

Here (from Wikipedia) is the tale of the awakening of St. Thomas, the 'doctor' 
of the Catholic Church:

In 1272 Thomas took leave from the University of Paris when the Dominicans from 
his home province called upon him to establish a studium generale wherever he 
liked and staff it as he pleased. He chose to establish the institution in 
Naples, and moved there to take his post as regent master. He took his time at 
Naples to work on the third part of the Summa while giving lectures on various 
religious topics. On 6 December 1273 at the Dominican convent of Naples in the 
Chapel of Saint Nicholas after Matins Thomas lingered and was seen by the 
sacristan Domenic of Caserta to be levitating in prayer with tears before an 
icon of the crucified Christ. Christ said to Thomas, "You have written well of 
me, Thomas. What reward would you have for your labor?" Thomas responded, 
"Nothing but you, Lord."  After this exchange something happened, but Thomas 
never spoke of it or wrote it down. Because of what he saw, he abandoned his 
routine and refused to dictate to his
 socius Reginald of Piperno. When Reginald begged him to get back to work, 
Thomas replied: "Reginald, I cannot, because all that I have written seems like 
straw to me" (mihi videtur ut palea). What exactly triggered Thomas's change in 
behavior is believed by Catholics to have been some kind of supernatural 
experience of God.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Do you have "Spare the Air" days back there?  We get them here in California 
and now they are irritating people because they can't burn in their fireplace 
to make up for the unusually cold weather.  If they do burn then they are 
subject to a fine.  A little wind usually calls it off though.

Thing is I find it hard to tell people that my experiences these
  days is "the world is out there" and somehow disconnected from
  "me."  This is not a dis-associative situation because when I need
  to engage with the world there is no problem.  I call
  "localization on demand."  Otherwise it is line on water and it
  would be so cool if everyone else at least experienced this.

On 01/22/2014 02:50 PM, anartaxius@... wrote:
>

>Bhairitu wrote:
>'There's that old saw: "before enlightenment you chop wood and carry water and 
>after enlightenment you copy wood and carry water."'
>>
>>
>>'I find it interesting to watch the world falling apart.  Our old systems no 
>>longer work and the unenlightened materialisti

[FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditation

How long? Until we get one percent of the world taking quiet time to practice a 
transcending meditation we are not going to stop until we achieve this and no 
spiritually apathetic dried up old science-hating ignorant fools like some even 
here are going to obstruct our progress towards our highly altruistic spiritual 
and science-based goals. This is a new movement and I invite you to get in line 
in formation with group meditation again near you; to be of help and not just 
sit in some field of cynicism out by your sorry self. It iscertainly time now 
to regather and to not be bound by a past but come forward again to help each 
other together with meditation. The goal is to get one percent of the 
population everywhere taking quiet time to meditate for the field affect of 
inner peace and love of a spiritual coherence that effective transcending 
meditation generates inside and outside everywhere. Clearly the science says 
that you can at the least be of help to your own self, that should appeal to 
someones like some of you. All that we are saying is, give Peace a chance. And, 
at least don't obstruct peace for the large community. The TM program is there 
to support your meditation and world peace everywhere. You could be of especial 
help by joining a group transcending meditation near you. Pick your Self up and 
come to meditation, and at the least coordinate for world peace with 
meditations near you. This is a call for activation of your Self. You can be of 
great help to your small-ass self and yet of great help to others in a much 
larger way in the practice of effective and coordinated transcending 
meditation, that is clear science and the clear science of peace-activism. Come 
be of help, for a change, -Buck in the Dome  

 

 salyavin808 writes:

 

 Then either do it or shut up about it.
 

 How many more decades of fundraising are there going to be before the TMO puts 
the money it collected into an actual group that actually brings peace?
 

 I think the whole thing is a crock of shit but it's very easy to demonstrate 
but wait, they have demonstrated it! You yourself have posted endless posts 
about how many hundreds of thousands have learned TM & YF, and all the yagyas 
(claimed to be much more powerful by the TMO) and yet there is still the 
occasional bit of trouble in the Mid-East.
 

 Maybe you want to explain why what you've done so far hasn't worked before you 
start conning the faithful out of their remaining few bucks for another 
"coherence" creating group.
 

 It's very easy and you claim to have already done it. In fact I remember 
Marshy saying that Sat Yuga was here but I'll put that down to the ramblings of 
a senile and deluded old man. But what to put your ramblings down to after all 
these years?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

Nice rap, but I particularly like "The 'understanding' is just an
overlay on experience that eventually lets the mind feel settled in
what's going on."

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I have a fireplace, and sometimes burn wood, but unless a fireplace
designed for heating a room is installed, it does not make much
difference to the heating bill. In addition I have to buy wood. There
are lots of trees around but they are either on other's property, in
parks, or in open space set aside by conservation groups. Smog is not a
problem where I live.
>
>  The disconnexion between the me and the world is always an
interesting experience, sometimes like the Berlin Wall, but some day it
should go. When it went for me, I did not realise what had happened for
decades, I thought that I was basically back to square one when all
experiences evaporated. My attention turned outward and for most of that
period, my interest in reading and engaging in 'spiritual' things, etc.,
pretty much vanished. And then one day I realised that gap between inner
and outer really was never there in the first place, and it took another
five or so years to get comfortable with that understanding.
>
>  The 'understanding' is just an overlay on experience that eventually
lets the mind feel settled in what's going on. Because of my particular
upbringing and entry in spirituality was very tangential to religion, my
experiences tended to not be coloured with religious overtones. For
example if you read what Buck is writing (or copying) these days, you
can see his understanding is steeped in religious soup. But, in fact,
spiritual experience is ultimately undefined, and so even as M said, you
can see it in the light of anything, and ones' individual preferences
and peccadilloes will shape the understanding that evolves. An
understanding has to evolve to feel settled in this because whatever
understanding one has prior to this is blown out of the water. Advice
from others is helpful, but basically you are on your own in the end
stages and it is up to you how you co-ordinate your experience and
understanding, for now you have realised what the illusion you were
operating under was, what the hoax was.
>
>  Here (from Wikipedia) is the tale of the awakening of St. Thomas, the
'doctor' of the Catholic Church:
>
>  In 1272 Thomas took leave from the University of Paris when the
Dominicans from his home province called upon him to establish a studium
generale wherever he liked and staff it as he pleased. He chose to
establish the institution in Naples, and moved there to take his post as
regent master. He took his time at Naples to work on the third part of
the Summa while giving lectures on various religious topics. On 6
December 1273 at the Dominican convent of Naples in the Chapel of Saint
Nicholas after Matins Thomas lingered and was seen by the sacristan
Domenic of Caserta to be levitating in prayer with tears before an icon
of the crucified Christ. Christ said to Thomas, "You have written well
of me, Thomas. What reward would you have for your labor?" Thomas
responded, "Nothing but you, Lord."  After this exchange something
happened, but Thomas never spoke of it or wrote it down. Because of what
he saw, he abandoned his routine and refused to dictate to his socius
Reginald of Piperno. When Reginald begged him to get back to work,
Thomas replied: "Reginald, I cannot, because all that I have written
seems like straw to me" (mihi videtur ut palea). What exactly triggered
Thomas's change in behavior is believed by Catholics to have been some
kind of supernatural experience of God.
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@ wrote:
>
>  Do you have "Spare the Air" days back there?  We get them here in
California and now they are irritating people because they can't burn in
their fireplace to make up for the unusually cold weather.  If they do
burn then they are subject to a fine.  A little wind usually calls it
off though.
>
>  Thing is I find it hard to tell people that my experiences these days
is "the world is out there" and somehow disconnected from "me."  This is
not a dis-associative situation because when I need to engage with the
world there is no problem.  I call "localization on demand."  Otherwise
it is line on water and it would be so cool if everyone else at least
experienced this.
>
>  On 01/22/2014 02:50 PM, anartaxius@ mailto:anartaxius@ wrote:
>
>Bhairitu wrote:
>
>  'There's that old saw: "before enlightenment you chop wood and carry
water and after enlightenment you copy wood and carry water."'
>
>  'I find it interesting to watch the world falling apart.  Our old
systems no longer work and the unenlightened materialistic elite are
trying to hold on to these antiquated systems.  Time for them to move
over and get out of the way since they are a real drag on society. 
Certainly having a quiet platform of silence helps to observe these
apocalyptic events and even laugh them off (or laugh at the
perpetrators

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

I have a fireplace, and sometimes burn wood, but unless a fireplace designed 
for heating a room is installed, it does not make much difference to the 
heating bill. In addition I have to buy wood. There are lots of trees around 
but they are either on other's property, in parks, or in open space set aside 
by conservation groups. Smog is not a problem where I live.
 

 The disconnexion between the me and the world is always an interesting 
experience, sometimes like the Berlin Wall, but some day it should go. When it 
went for me, I did not realise what had happened for decades, I thought that I 
was basically back to square one when all experiences evaporated. My attention 
turned outward and for most of that period, my interest in reading and engaging 
in 'spiritual' things, etc., pretty much vanished. And then one day I realised 
that gap between inner and outer really was never there in the first place, and 
it took another five or so years to get comfortable with that understanding. 
 

 The 'understanding' is just an overlay on experience that eventually lets the 
mind feel settled in what's going on. Because of my particular upbringing and 
entry in spirituality was very tangential to religion, my experiences tended to 
not be coloured with religious overtones. For example if you read what Buck is 
writing (or copying) these days, you can see his understanding is steeped in 
religious soup. But, in fact, spiritual experience is ultimately undefined, and 
so even as M said, you can see it in the light of anything, and ones' 
individual preferences and peccadilloes will shape the understanding that 
evolves. An understanding has to evolve to feel settled in this because 
whatever understanding one has prior to this is blown out of the water. Advice 
from others is helpful, but basically you are on your own in the end stages and 
it is up to you how you co-ordinate your experience and understanding, for now 
you have realised what the illusion you were operating under was, what the hoax 
was.
 

 Here (from Wikipedia) is the tale of the awakening of St. Thomas, the 'doctor' 
of the Catholic Church:
 

 In 1272 Thomas took leave from the University of Paris when the Dominicans 
from his home province called upon him to establish a studium generale wherever 
he liked and staff it as he pleased. He chose to establish the institution in 
Naples, and moved there to take his post as regent master. He took his time at 
Naples to work on the third part of the Summa while giving lectures on various 
religious topics. On 6 December 1273 at the Dominican convent of Naples in the 
Chapel of Saint Nicholas after Matins Thomas lingered and was seen by the 
sacristan Domenic of Caserta to be levitating in prayer with tears before an 
icon of the crucified Christ. Christ said to Thomas, "You have written well of 
me, Thomas. What reward would you have for your labor?" Thomas responded, 
"Nothing but you, Lord."  After this exchange something happened, but Thomas 
never spoke of it or wrote it down. Because of what he saw, he abandoned his 
routine and refused to dictate to his socius Reginald of Piperno. When Reginald 
begged him to get back to work, Thomas replied: "Reginald, I cannot, because 
all that I have written seems like straw to me" (mihi videtur ut palea). What 
exactly triggered Thomas's change in behavior is believed by Catholics to have 
been some kind of supernatural experience of God.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Do you have "Spare the Air" days back there?  We get them here in California 
and now they are irritating people because they can't burn in their fireplace 
to make up for the unusually cold weather.  If they do burn then they are 
subject to a fine.  A little wind usually calls it off though.
 
 Thing is I find it hard to tell people that my experiences these days is "the 
world is out there" and somehow disconnected from "me."  This is not a 
dis-associative situation because when I need to engage with the world there is 
no problem.  I call "localization on demand."  Otherwise it is line on water 
and it would be so cool if everyone else at least experienced this.
  
 On 01/22/2014 02:50 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote:
 
   Bhairitu wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 'There's that old saw: "before enlightenment you chop wood and carry water and 
after enlightenment you copy wood and carry water."'
 
 
 
 
 
 
 'I find it interesting to watch the world falling apart.  Our old systems no 
longer work and the unenlightened materialistic elite are trying to hold on to 
these antiquated systems.  Time for them to move over and get out of the way 
since they are a real drag on society.  Certainly having a quiet platform of 
silence helps to observe these apocalyptic events and even laugh them off (or 
laugh at the perpetrators).  I find that some of the political forums I'm on 
the posters really get hung up in the minutia missing the forest for the trees. 
 Folks here, not s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

I think I may have to create a macro response if Xeno keeps stalking me and 
trying to get me to engage with him: If anyone (except Xeno) wants a detailed 
refutation of Xeno's dishonest trolling, just let me know.
 
 Of course I get it. It is just game with me though. After all, initially you 
tried to weasel out of not responding, but then seem to think the better of it. 
And referring to me in the third person doesn't really disguise intent either. 
I regard Barry as an independent agent. If our responses seem similar, perhaps 
you might look closer to home for a reason why that might be so. On another 
note, a description of your spiritual experiences would be a welcome change on 
this forum.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Amazing. He still doesn't get it. Somebody might think about suggesting that 
he ask another person to pose the question he did. Then I'll explain why the 
question is disingenuous and hostile, just like those he asked me on Sunday 
(which of course he will disingenuously deny). No surprise, of course, that 
Xeno has taken Barry's side and decided to help him "stalk" me. What a 
wonderfully spiritual dude, eh?
 

 << You said you would not have a discussion with me, but did attempt to 
respond by making a 'comment', once. It is not necessary to have a discussion 
with me to provide data; all you have to do is post references and remove any 
content that I wrote, borrowed, or stole. I have been attempting to not 
interact with you so as not to incite responses. But if you post information 
rather than merely saying it exists, it would be easier for people to find it, 
unless it does not exist, then obviously posting a passing reference to it 
makes it difficult to discover it does not exist, and thus prove a lie. Unlike 
Barry, I do read *some* of the posts you write, but not all. I do not recall 
you ever talking about spiritual experiences, though that does not mean they do 
not exist on FFL. What you need is an ally to comment on my post and you can 
reply to her.
 

 I am overjoyed you have not changed your mind, for it normally simplifies life 
for me here, removing a deeply dark presence from my path. >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

I think the main reason Nabby touts TM is his other guru Benjy Creme has given 
his bullshit esoteric stamp of approval to the Big Marshy - so if Benjy says 
it, it must be true.

On Thu, 1/23/14, salyavin808  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast  peace: 
Transcendental Meditation
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 1:57 PM

   I know, poor old Nabby, I shouldn't be so
 hard on him. It must be tough to keep up the faith after all
 these years of disappointment. Devotion like that is a rare
 thing these days. Still, anyone else who believes this crap
 really should be asking themselves the same question so I
 won't feel too bad.
 I
 must say Lynch certainly seems to be keeping the fundraising
 going with his celeb mates, what a godsend he was coming out
 of the closet at the last minute, I think it's him that
 keeps it all going now, I can't see the insiders
 reaching out to the world in the same way. Is Bevan still
 alive even? Haven't seen him for years now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Of course I get it. It is just game with me though. After all,
initially you tried to weasel out of not responding, but then seem to
think the better of it. And referring to me in the third person doesn't
really disguise intent either. I regard Barry as an independent agent.
If our responses seem similar, perhaps you might look closer to home for
a reason why that might be so. On another note, a description of your
spiritual experiences would be a welcome change on this forum.

Ain't NEVER gonna happen.

And the simple reason is ego, and ego-protectiveness, the very qualities
that *prohibit* and *block* both the having of and the expression of
spiritual experience.

If Judy were to declare some experience she once had "spiritual," she'd
open herself up to people like herself -- "editors." These strangers get
to decide whether 1) the thing she describes could be described by even
one fellow human being as "spiritual," 2) whether she did a good (or
even competent) job of describing the experience, and 3) whether any of
it was worth reading in the first place. Not gonna happen. She's got too
much invested in her imaginary "image" to ever risk that.

Meanwhile, those of us with no real "image" to protect can write
Whatever The Fuck We Want.

All in all, I think we win.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: That went down like a Yellow Submarine!

2014-01-23 Thread merudanda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzuR4Iunuw 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzuR4Iunuw

Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.


Mister city policeman sitting
Pretty little policemen in a row.
See how they fly like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run.
I'm crying, I'm crying.
I'm crying, I'm crying

 Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun.
and...

If the sun don't come.
 Yellow matter custard, green slop pie,
All mixed together with a dead dog's eye,
Slap it on a butty, ten foot thick,
Then wash it all down with a cup of cold sick

[FairfieldLife] Ah, Mother India

"Home of all knowledge." A magical land protected by the Vedic gods and
living in accord with the Laws Of Nature. A shining beacon of the
possibilities available to lesser, far less-evolved nations. A country
into which vast and unknown sums of money extorted from faithful TMers
to create World Peace disappeared, never to be found again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/india-gang-rape-west-bengal_n_4\
650743.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

Of course I get it. It is just game with me though. After all, initially you 
tried to weasel out of not responding, but then seem to think the better of it. 
And referring to me in the third person doesn't really disguise intent either. 
I regard Barry as an independent agent. If our responses seem similar, perhaps 
you might look closer to home for a reason why that might be so. On another 
note, a description of your spiritual experiences would be a welcome change on 
this forum.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Amazing. He still doesn't get it. Somebody might think about suggesting that 
he ask another person to pose the question he did. Then I'll explain why the 
question is disingenuous and hostile, just like those he asked me on Sunday 
(which of course he will disingenuously deny). No surprise, of course, that 
Xeno has taken Barry's side and decided to help him "stalk" me. What a 
wonderfully spiritual dude, eh?
 

 << You said you would not have a discussion with me, but did attempt to 
respond by making a 'comment', once. It is not necessary to have a discussion 
with me to provide data; all you have to do is post references and remove any 
content that I wrote, borrowed, or stole. I have been attempting to not 
interact with you so as not to incite responses. But if you post information 
rather than merely saying it exists, it would be easier for people to find it, 
unless it does not exist, then obviously posting a passing reference to it 
makes it difficult to discover it does not exist, and thus prove a lie. Unlike 
Barry, I do read *some* of the posts you write, but not all. I do not recall 
you ever talking about spiritual experiences, though that does not mean they do 
not exist on FFL. What you need is an ally to comment on my post and you can 
reply to her.
 

 I am overjoyed you have not changed your mind, for it normally simplifies life 
for me here, removing a deeply dark presence from my path. >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote: 
> >
> > Barry, sweetie-poops, I've actually written quite a bit here about my 
> > spiritual experiences. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius wrote:
> 
> Post numbers? (So we can read them) You must have recalled some of these 
> things you wrote and about when you wrote them. 

 You're not likely to get an answer, Xeno, because Judy can't come up with any 
posts in which she actually discussed her "spiritual experiences." Fortunately 
I saved a few excerpts from the only post in which I remember her even trying 
(#362163) before she deleted it:
 

 Small rewrite of Barry's "spiritual post" to reflect a closer version of 
reality:

 > It was a good day today. Like any other day, I won every 
 > argument I started, and proved how much smarter I was 
 > than everyone else. I stalked Judy again and made her 
 > feel bad enough to respond to me, at which point I 
 > declared victory and stalked her some more. I managed 
 > to sneak references to many of the people who left the 
 > forum because they were no match for me (like Robin and 
 > Carol and Ravi and I've probably even caused Emily to take a poweder) 
 > into conversations that had nothing to them...that was 
 > satisfying. 
 > 
 > A couple of people tried to post something I knew nothing 
 > about, so of course I spent a few minutes on Google and 
 > Wikipedia so that I could 'correct' them and show everyone 
 > that I knew more about it than they did. Then I spent some 
 > time stroking the enemies of my enemies and praising them 
 > so they'll remain my friends. I don't really like them much, 
 > but ya gotta do what ya gotta do to 'win' around here. 
 > Finally, I called Judy a LIAR a bunch of times, even though 
 > she hadn't posted anything today. That's another one of those 
 > things that ya just gotta do. 
 > 
 > So yes, it was a good day. Waves and waves of bliss are 
 > flowing over me as I think back on all I accomplished. I 
 > think I'll celebrate by doing puja -- chanting Joni Mitchell songs 
 > in front of my photo of Bevan while masturbating using the 
 > vibrator I've painted to look like him. A perfect ending to a 
 > perfect day.

 :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Most obese professions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my father in the
hospital. He was there at the time to treat his emphysema, caused at least
partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat at his bedside and watched the meter of
the oxygen machine he was hooked up to. It displayed the oxygen content of his
blood, and there was a marker on the scale to indicate "Normal." Even though he
was wearing a mask and breathing pure oxygen, the red bar never made it even
halfway to the Normal mark.

Later that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking lot saw *all*
of the doctors and nurses who worked there on the Pulmonary Care Ward there,
smoking cigarettes. They saw people like my father every day, and yet here they
were, smoking cigarettes. Go figure. So it's not a big leap for me to imagine
them seeing all the statistics they deal with every day about the health risks
associated with obesity, and yet swelling up like a balloon themselves anyway.

Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass all day and eat junk
food as you drive, what can you expect? But interestingly, one of the only
people I've ever met in my life *as* fat as the truck drivers I've seen in
truck stops was Bevan Morris. He's one of the honchos of an organization that
promises "perfect health" as the inevitable result of the techniques it sells.
A few of the TM "Rajas" also rival the size of truck drivers, too. So what's up
with that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleaning-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

[FairfieldLife] Most obese professions

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleani\
ng-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html


OK, I get the "protective services" thang. If you're a cop, or an ex-cop
"working security" at some company or for some rich folks, you've got
that Dunkin' Donuts Jones goin' for you, and that's a hard monkey to
shake off your back.

But "health services?" It reminds me of the time I visited my father in
the hospital. He was there at the time to treat his emphysema, caused at
least partly by a lifetime of smoking. I sat at his bedside and watched
the meter of the oxygen machine he was hooked up to. It displayed the
oxygen content of his blood, and there was a marker on the scale to
indicate "Normal." Even though he was wearing a mask and breathing pure
oxygen, the red bar never made it even halfway to the Normal mark.

Later that day, I walked out of the hospital and in the parking lot saw
*all* of the doctors and nurses who worked there on the Pulmonary Care
Ward there, smoking cigarettes. They saw people like my father every
day, and yet here they were, smoking cigarettes. Go figure. So it's not
a big leap for me to imagine them seeing all the statistics they deal
with every day about the health risks associated with obesity, and yet
swelling up like a balloon themselves anyway.

Truck drivers? That's a no-brainer. You sit on your ass all day and eat
junk food as you drive, what can you expect? But interestingly, one of
the only people I've ever met in my life *as* fat as the truck drivers
I've seen in truck stops was Bevan Morris. He's one of the honchos of an
organization that promises "perfect health" as the inevitable result of
the techniques it sells. A few of the TM "Rajas" also rival the size of
truck drivers, too. So what's up with that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/obese-jobs-truck-driving-cleani\
ng-services-protective-services_n_4647089.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: David LynchÃ¢ÂÂs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808  wrote:
>
> I know, poor old Nabby, I shouldn't be so hard on him. It must be
tough to keep up the faith after all these years of disappointment.
Devotion like that is a rare thing these days. Still, anyone else who
believes this crap really should be asking themselves the same question
so I won't feel too bad.

Nabby's got perseverance. He hangs in there with his faith, no matter
what.

Give him time. It's only been 8 years since Hagelin declared the dawning
of Sat Yuga and Maharishi agreed with him publicly. It's been 32 years
since Benjamin Creme first announced to the press that Maitreya/Christ
was due Any Day Now and He hasn't shown up yet. That hasn't hindered
Nabby's faith in the slightest.

>  I must say Lynch certainly seems to be keeping the fundraising going
with his celeb mates, what a godsend he was coming out of the closet at
the last minute, I think it's him that keeps it all going now, I can't
see the insiders reaching out to the world in the same way. Is Bevan
still alive even? Haven't seen him for years now

An interesting concept, "Coming out of the TM closet." It implies a lot.

As for Bevan, I for one suspect that when it comes to de-closeting,
Bevan is so fat that he simply *can't* get out. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Russel Brand on Sex with 2 girls with rubber, the lovely mother of Kathy Perry and Transcendental Meditation



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Let's be clear: Russell Brand is a total creep. His excuse is that he's 
bipolar - but Stephen Fry is also bipolar and Stephen remains a fully-paid up 
human being - intelligent, warm-hearted, witty. That fact that Brand is a 
popular celebrity tells you just how far contemporary society has lost its way 
and doesn't deserve our support. Richard Williams thinks that Katy Perry and 
Howard Stern are role models for his children! That just shows how fucked-up 
people become when they put the almighty dollar above humane values.

 

 I love this line and I have to agree. Stephen Fry is wonderful  - vulnerable, 
clever, brilliant, humble and flawed - some of the best attributes of a human 
being I know of.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

2014-01-23 Thread salyavin808

I know, poor old Nabby, I shouldn't be so hard on him. It must be tough to keep 
up the faith after all these years of disappointment. Devotion like that is a 
rare thing these days. Still, anyone else who believes this crap really should 
be asking themselves the same question so I won't feel too bad.
 

 I must say Lynch certainly seems to be keeping the fundraising going with his 
celeb mates, what a godsend he was coming out of the closet at the last minute, 
I think it's him that keeps it all going now, I can't see the insiders reaching 
out to the world in the same way. Is Bevan still alive even? Haven't seen him 
for years now

[FairfieldLife] Ah, those French (redux)


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152133635425255_1184769843_n.jpg]
For those who are French-challenged, this says, "The flower-sellers of
Paris propose that you celebrate St. Valentine's Day  with a 50%
discount on the second bouquet! Think of your mistress too!"

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

I win.
 

 Hands down.
 

 
 You're not likely to get an answer, Xeno, because Judy can't come up with any 
posts in which she actually discussed her "spiritual experiences." Fortunately 
I saved a few excerpts from the only post in which I remember her even trying 
(#362163) before she deleted it:

 > It was a good day today. Like any other day, I won every 
 > argument I started, and proved how much smarter I was 
 > than everyone else. I stalked Share again and made her 
 > feel bad enough to respond to me, at which point I 
 > declared victory and stalked her some more. I managed 
 > to sneak references to many of the people who left the 
 > forum because they were no match for me (like Vaj and 
 > Curtis and Sal Sunshine and Ruth and Andrew Skolnick) 
 > into conversations that had nothing to them...that was 
 > satisfying. 
 > 
 > A couple of people tried to post something I knew nothing 
 > about, so of course I spent a few minutes on Google and 
 > Wikipedia so that I could 'correct' them and show everyone 
 > that I knew more about it than they did. Then I spent some 
 > time stroking the enemies of my enemies and praising them 
 > so they'll remain my friends. I don't really like them much, 
 > but ya gotta do what ya gotta do to 'win' around here. 
 > Finally, I called Barry a LIAR a bunch of times, even though 
 > he hadn't posted anything today. That's another one of those 
 > things that ya just gotta do. 
 > 
 > So yes, it was a good day. Waves and waves of bliss are 
 > flowing over me as I think back on all I accomplished. I 
 > think I'll celebrate by doing puja -- chanting Lady Gaga songs 
 > in front of my photo of Robin while masturbating using the 
 > vibrator I've painted to look like him. A perfect ending to a 
 > perfect day.

 :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynchâs remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808  wrote:
>
> Then either do it or shut up about it.
>
>  How many more decades of fundraising are there going to be before the
TMO puts the money it collected into an actual group that actually
brings peace?
>
>  I think the whole thing is a crock of shit but it's very easy to
demonstrate but wait, they have demonstrated it! You yourself have
posted endless posts about how many hundreds of thousands have learned
TM & YF, and all the yagyas (claimed to be much more powerful by the
TMO) and yet there is still the occasional bit of trouble in the
Mid-East.
>
>  Maybe you want to explain why what you've done so far hasn't worked
before you start conning the faithful out of their remaining few bucks
for another "coherence" creating group.
>
>  It's very easy and you claim to have already done it. In fact I
remember Marshy saying that Sat Yuga was here but I'll put that down to
the ramblings of a senile and deluded old man. But what to put your
ramblings down to after all these years?

Since we're dealing with Nabby, I think we have to cut him a break or
two because not only is he a TM TB (a debilitating condition in itself),
rumor has it that he suffers from a rare STD called cropcirclitis. You
get it after an unprotected anal probe from one of the Space Brothers. 
:-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation

2014-01-23 Thread salyavin808

Then either do it or shut up about it.
 

 How many more decades of fundraising are there going to be before the TMO puts 
the money it collected into an actual group that actually brings peace?
 

 I think the whole thing is a crock of shit but it's very easy to demonstrate 
but wait, they have demonstrated it! You yourself have posted endless posts 
about how many hundreds of thousands have learned TM & YF, and all the yagyas 
(claimed to be much more powerful by the TMO) and yet there is still the 
occasional bit of trouble in the Mid-East.
 

 Maybe you want to explain why what you've done so far hasn't worked before you 
start conning the faithful out of their remaining few bucks for another 
"coherence" creating group.
 

 It's very easy and you claim to have already done it. In fact I remember 
Marshy saying that Sat Yuga was here but I'll put that down to the ramblings of 
a senile and deluded old man. But what to put your ramblings down to after all 
these years?

[FairfieldLife] How David Lynch and His Hollywood Friends Are Bringing Back Transcendental Meditation


 One of film's darkest directors, with help from Jerry Seinfeld and Hugh 
Jackman, is shining a light by bringing meditation to everyone from PTSD 
sufferers to inner-city kids.
 

 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-david-lynch-hugh-jackman-668785 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-david-lynch-hugh-jackman-668785

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch’s remedy for Mideast peace: Transcendental Meditation


 Real peace isn’t just the absence of war the legendary director tells Israeli 
filmgoers via Skype, and sets the record straight on the 'Twin Peaks' rumors.
 

 http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/.premium-1.569956 
http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/.premium-1.569956

[FairfieldLife] That went down like a Yellow Submarine!


 With Jim Carrey, Barbara Bach, Peter Frampton, Joe Walsh, David Lynch
 

 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2543128/Ringo-Starr-jumps-Jim-Carrey-shows-mock-Beatles-T-shirt-faces-Dumb-And-Dumber-characters.html
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2543128/Ringo-Starr-jumps-Jim-Carrey-shows-mock-Beatles-T-shirt-faces-Dumb-And-Dumber-characters.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russel Brand on Sex with 2 girls with rubber, the lovely mother of Kathy Perry and Transcendental Meditation

No he didn't.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote:
>  >
>  > Barry, sweetie-poops, I've actually written quite a bit here about
my spiritual experiences.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  anartaxius wrote:
>
> Post numbers? (So we can read them) You must have recalled some of
these things you wrote and about when you wrote them.

You're not likely to get an answer, Xeno, because Judy can't come up
with any posts in which she actually discussed her "spiritual
experiences." Fortunately I saved a few excerpts from the only post in
which I remember her even trying (#362163) before she deleted it:

> It was a good day today. Like any other day, I won every
> argument I started, and proved how much smarter I was
> than everyone else. I stalked Share again and made her
> feel bad enough to respond to me, at which point I
> declared victory and stalked her some more. I managed
> to sneak references to many of the people who left the
> forum because they were no match for me (like Vaj and
> Curtis and Sal Sunshine and Ruth and Andrew Skolnick)
> into conversations that had nothing to them...that was
> satisfying.
>
> A couple of people tried to post something I knew nothing
> about, so of course I spent a few minutes on Google and
> Wikipedia so that I could 'correct' them and show everyone
> that I knew more about it than they did. Then I spent some
> time stroking the enemies of my enemies and praising them
> so they'll remain my friends. I don't really like them much,
> but ya gotta do what ya gotta do to 'win' around here.
> Finally, I called Barry a LIAR a bunch of times, even though
> he hadn't posted anything today. That's another one of those
> things that ya just gotta do.
>
> So yes, it was a good day. Waves and waves of bliss are
> flowing over me as I think back on all I accomplished. I
> think I'll celebrate by doing puja -- chanting Lady Gaga songs
> in front of my photo of Robin while masturbating using the
> vibrator I've painted to look like him. A perfect ending to a
> perfect day.

:-)

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