[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the gods Exist?
If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. The experience of No Self, is quite a misnomer, and only reflects the contrast between the ego's world and the Real world. Since those having this experience don't feel like themselves, they call the experience in terms of losing their false identity. Very far away from established Bliss Consciousness, our birthright.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you.
[FairfieldLife] Non-attachment vs. Noggin-attachment
Funny thing how one of the members of this forum recently claimed that the state of non-attachment, could be learned, consciously. This means that the individual, the ego, takes the responsibility for dissolving itself. Can anyone say, fox guarding the hen house?? lol Such a misguided idea, this noggin-attachment, and a huge waste of time. This idea of *developing* non-attachment, began with the misinterpretation of what are known as the limbs of enlightenment. Instead of the teachers recognizing, that the limbs grow simultaneously, vs. sequentially, they fucked the whole thing up. These teachers, of incorrect knowledge, teach the limbs as a path, or a series of stages, tied to conscious development, by the ego, of its supposed non-attachment. It is possibly a fun game, to pretend to be distanced from experience, and supposedly non-attached, but it is in the end a huge sacrifice of human life, towards mood-making, and false hope. Non-attachment cannot be learned, or faked, or thought into. It is a natural conditioning of the nervous system that accompanies, rather than leads, Enlightenment. There is no possibility of being just 90% or 75% or 32% attached to experience, the play of the three gunas, and its resulting karma. It is all or nothing. Any other attempt shows up as strained behavior, with an implicit idea, of how this non-attachment is supposed to *feel*; life on Fantasy Island, and nothing more.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Enter the Meissener-like Effect and more Spiritual Progress,
In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the Transcendental Meditation program, predicted that a transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order of one percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime rate did decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one percent of the population was practicing the TM technique. -Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers, Volume I, Group meditation . .increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism.. . Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism. —Paramahansa Yogananda Prophetically writing, Alice A. Bailey with some very technical and useful spiritual books (talk about jargon!) on mysticism published in the 1920 and 30's anticipates the rise of group spiritual affect coming now in the 21st Century. This writing was from before the height of Yoganada who had just arrived in the West at about that time and who then rose to cultural significance by mid-20th Century and then Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in sequence arriving in the West in the late 1950's. Both Yogananda and Maharishi taught spirituality also employing the spiritual importance of group practices of meditation. Maharishi then coming to declare a dawn of an age of enlightenment based on the scientific discovery that one percent of a general population meditating has a spiritual effect of well-being on the larger population. Remarkable. . Alice A. Bailey writing: “. . to be more practical and generally useful. It deals primarily with the training of the aspirant so that he can, in his turn, act as a conscious creator, and as he works serve the higher ends of Life which enfolds him. Thus he aids in the materializing of the plans of God (the Unified Field). The training of the aspirant, the indicating to him of possible trends and lines of evolution, and the definition of the underlying purpose is all that it is wise to impart at the present stage in which the average aspirant finds himself. . In the next century, when man's equipment is better developed and when a truer meaning of group activity is available, it will be possible to convey more information, but the time is not yet.” We come a long ways, baby! “In the next century, when man's equipment is better developed and when a truer meaning of group activity is available, it will be possible to convey more information, but the time is not yet.” -Alice A. Bailey Om
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. And *I* don't. That's the only important thing to remember -- how incredibly special *I* am, and how non-special all these other peons who are less evolved than *I* am are. He's *only* in CC, and *I*...not to be immodest or anything...am just so, So, SO much *more* than that. Any state of consciousness you can name, *I* will have been there done that long ago, the day after I first heard about it. Logic? *I* am WAY past logic. That's for losers. And it's only your faulty perception that *I* am somewhat cold and remote when it comes to other people *I* look down on; they only believe that because they're so jealous of how special *I* am. Poor Xeno, after all, still has a long way to go. And *I* don't. *I* have arrived at the pinnacle of what it is to be a human being, and enlightened. That's why I'm so compassionate towards these puny-ass poseurs who aren't...uh...well...*ME*. Again, did I manage to synopsize what you were really trying to say, Jimbo? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@ wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@ wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@ anartaxius@ wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
dear Xeno, yes taking risks, living on the edge, etc. And all just from participating in the Funny Farm Lounge! BTW, I have about zero contact with the cosmetics industry. I get my aloe vera gel in a health food store and have found it to be beneficial for a number of skin ailments. It pacifies pitta too, just in case that's of any use. I'm glad that you found a product with adequate scientific research so that you feel safe using it. Another arctic vortex over night. I have various faucets dripping... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:54 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-attachment vs. Noggin-attachment
And you should believe what *I* have to say about non-attachment, because *I* have established such a track record of not being attached here on Fairfield Life. *I* mean, all those times I lost it and lashed out, insulting people and calling them names because they didn't buy my enlightened act...that WASN'T attachment. It only looked that way because you people are so damned unevolved. *Mine* is the only view that matters on this subject of non-attachment. And if any of you challenge this, *I* will argue with you to establish *my* dominance and how ignorant you are. And that's not attachment. That's just *me* being compassionate towards all of you low-lives who just aren't as evolved and as enlightened as *I* am. Why don't you people just learn to pay attention to what *I* say like the more evolved people over on BATGAP. *They* understand how special *I* am, and they believe the things I say Just Because *I* Say Them. Why don't you? What is WRONG with you? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Funny thing how one of the members of this forum recently claimed that the state of non-attachment, could be learned, consciously. This means that the individual, the ego, takes the responsibility for dissolving itself. Can anyone say, fox guarding the hen house?? lol Such a misguided idea, this noggin-attachment, and a huge waste of time. This idea of *developing* non-attachment, began with the misinterpretation of what are known as the limbs of enlightenment. Instead of the teachers recognizing, that the limbs grow simultaneously, vs. sequentially, they fucked the whole thing up. These teachers, of incorrect knowledge, teach the limbs as a path, or a series of stages, tied to conscious development, by the ego, of its supposed non-attachment. It is possibly a fun game, to pretend to be distanced from experience, and supposedly non-attached, but it is in the end a huge sacrifice of human life, towards mood-making, and false hope. Non-attachment cannot be learned, or faked, or thought into. It is a natural conditioning of the nervous system that accompanies, rather than leads, Enlightenment. There is no possibility of being just 90% or 75% or 32% attached to experience, the play of the three gunas, and its resulting karma. It is all or nothing. Any other attempt shows up as strained behavior, with an implicit idea, of how this non-attachment is supposed to *feel*; life on Fantasy Island, and nothing more.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. And *I* don't. That's the only important thing to remember -- how incredibly special *I* am, and how non-special all these other peons who are less evolved than *I* am are. He's *only* in CC, and *I*...not to be immodest or anything...am just so, So, SO much *more* than that. Any state of consciousness you can name, *I* will have been there done that long ago, the day after I first heard about it. Logic? *I* am WAY past logic. That's for losers. And it's only your faulty perception that *I* am somewhat cold and remote when it comes to other people *I* look down on; they only believe that because they're so jealous of how special *I* am. Poor Xeno, after all, still has a long way to go. And *I* don't. *I* have arrived at the pinnacle of what it is to be a human being, and enlightened. That's why I'm so compassionate towards these puny-ass poseurs who aren't...uh...well...*ME*. Again, did I manage to synopsize what you were really trying to say, Jimbo? :-) All you managed to do was rehash something you think someone said but didn't and in a way that makes you look like a warmonger and troublemaker. Your mission is never to make peace or strive to create harmony between others but to sow the seeds of argument and misunderstanding. That certainly is the pinnacle of ignorance and small ego, Bawwy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@ wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@ wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@ anartaxius@ wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
How could a 'synopsis' be several times longer than the original statement? Not exactly summing things up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. And *I* don't. That's the only important thing to remember -- how incredibly special *I* am, and how non-special all these other peons who are less evolved than *I* am are. He's *only* in CC, and *I*...not to be immodest or anything...am just so, So, SO much *more* than that. Any state of consciousness you can name, *I* will have been there done that long ago, the day after I first heard about it. Logic? *I* am WAY past logic. That's for losers. And it's only your faulty perception that *I* am somewhat cold and remote when it comes to other people *I* look down on; they only believe that because they're so jealous of how special *I* am. Poor Xeno, after all, still has a long way to go. And *I* don't. *I* have arrived at the pinnacle of what it is to be a human being, and enlightened. That's why I'm so compassionate towards these puny-ass poseurs who aren't...uh...well...*ME*. Again, did I manage to synopsize what you were really trying to say, Jimbo? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@ wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@ wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@ anartaxius@ wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've
[FairfieldLife] RE: Non-attachment vs. Noggin-attachment
You state this very clear Dr.D, wonderful ! But how can those who do not develop Being understand what you are talking about when all the religions are there with all their authority and power and what not, keep muddeling the minds of men telling them more or less the exact opposite ? People WANT to hear that you don't need to spend time on any Sadhana because they are lazy. One fellow on FFL even claimed he already was enlightenmened, so no need for Sadhana - some Lama guy with a funny hat had told him. It's much easier to listen to such a fellow who speaks with authority, even claiming to represent thousands of years of wisdom, than some Californian dude :-) The first step demands Satyam (the truth) - that which never changes, Samadi. Being in the beginning and Being in the end. This is the state of union, the beginning and end of Yoga. - Maharishi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-attachment vs. Noggin-attachment
All you have done is prove my point further. One observation of mine, on non-attachment, vs. noggin-attachment, is that, those who practice noggin-attachment create a lot of strain within themselves. Simply because, as I said, the ego cannot think, or plan, its non-existence. A stupid and wasteful idea that has gone on far too long -- as you said, over 2,500 years! Unbelievable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: And you should believe what *I* have to say about non-attachment, because *I* have established such a track record of not being attached here on Fairfield Life. *I* mean, all those times I lost it and lashed out, insulting people and calling them names because they didn't buy my enlightened act...that WASN'T attachment. It only looked that way because you people are so damned unevolved. *Mine* is the only view that matters on this subject of non-attachment. And if any of you challenge this, *I* will argue with you to establish *my* dominance and how ignorant you are. And that's not attachment. That's just *me* being compassionate towards all of you low-lives who just aren't as evolved and as enlightened as *I* am. Why don't you people just learn to pay attention to what *I* say like the more evolved people over on BATGAP. *They* understand how special *I* am, and they believe the things I say Just Because *I* Say Them. Why don't you? What is WRONG with you? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Funny thing how one of the members of this forum recently claimed that the state of non-attachment, could be learned, consciously. This means that the individual, the ego, takes the responsibility for dissolving itself. Can anyone say, fox guarding the hen house?? lol Such a misguided idea, this noggin-attachment, and a huge waste of time. This idea of *developing* non-attachment, began with the misinterpretation of what are known as the limbs of enlightenment. Instead of the teachers recognizing, that the limbs grow simultaneously, vs. sequentially, they fucked the whole thing up. These teachers, of incorrect knowledge, teach the limbs as a path, or a series of stages, tied to conscious development, by the ego, of its supposed non-attachment. It is possibly a fun game, to pretend to be distanced from experience, and supposedly non-attached, but it is in the end a huge sacrifice of human life, towards mood-making, and false hope. Non-attachment cannot be learned, or faked, or thought into. It is a natural conditioning of the nervous system that accompanies, rather than leads, Enlightenment. There is no possibility of being just 90% or 75% or 32% attached to experience, the play of the three gunas, and its resulting karma. It is all or nothing. Any other attempt shows up as strained behavior, with an implicit idea, of how this non-attachment is supposed to *feel*; life on Fantasy Island, and nothing more.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Non-attachment vs. Noggin-attachment
Satyam! Yes, this explanation of Maharishi's is beautifully complete. The Buddhists are egomaniacs. Thank you for re-posting this clip. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You state this very clear Dr.D, wonderful ! But how can those who do not develop Being understand what you are talking about when all the religions are there with all their authority and power and what not, keep muddeling the minds of men telling them more or less the exact opposite ? People WANT to hear that you don't need to spend time on any Sadhana because they are lazy. One fellow on FFL even claimed he already was enlightenmened, so no need for Sadhana - some Lama guy with a funny hat had told him. It's much easier to listen to such a fellow who speaks with authority, even claiming to represent thousands of years of wisdom, than some Californian dude :-) The first step demands Satyam (the truth) - that which never changes, Samadi. Being in the beginning and Being in the end. This is the state of union, the beginning and end of Yoga. - Maharishi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE
[FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
correction: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, can be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: correction: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, can be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. No problem. You're just not attached to being able to spell. It's a little like your non-attachment to being able to count, back when we still had posting limits. You were, after all, the FFL poster who spent the most time on the I Have No Self Control bench. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] such a bad omen
Saw that the other day! My exact thoughts, bad omen.The Pope releases doves from his window and they are attacked by a seagull and a crow. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:40 PM, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25905108 seagull - rahu crow - saturn
Re: [FairfieldLife] such a bad omen
Saw that the other day! My exact thoughts, bad omen.The Pope releases doves from his window and they are attacked by a seagull and a crow. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:40 PM, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25905108 seagull - rahu crow - saturn
Re: [FairfieldLife] such a bad omen
Can you even *imagine* if the attacking birds had been, an osprey, and a raven (osprey = dust bunny, raven = Planet Hollywood)?? I shudder to think. Cosmically, we got off easy... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Saw that the other day! My exact thoughts, bad omen.The Pope releases doves from his window and they are attacked by a seagull and a crow. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:40 PM, srijau@... srijau@... wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25905108 seagull - rahu crow - saturn
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
On 1/26/2014 11:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Card's posts are in their own little world. You are supposed to read the comments already posted BEFORE you post your own - we've been talking about stress relief for years on Google Groups and Yahoo Groups. It's starting to look like Turq is just out of the spiritual loop and caught up in the secular world. He often uses the spiritual jargon - spiritual without in the least seeming to understand what it is he's commenting on. Go figure. NSRNatural Stress Relief (meditation technique) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR
[FairfieldLife] The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-us-20141275127398488.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
On 1/26/2014 11:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */That is, the people doing this seek to position *themselves* as the experts or authorities and *force* people to ask them questions/* It's all a matter of positioning and placement. You can place yourself as an expert or authority if you know what you are talking about. But, if you don't even know any bija mantras for any yoga technique used for stress relief, it would probably just be better to keep your pie hole shut. You can't force anyone to answer your questions, so maybe you should start questioning answers instead of trying to figure out simple things without a teacher.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
Can't say I blame them - if the story is accurate, 10 to 15 years is a huge commitment, especially when young. Remarkable, also, that it is just ten percent who chose to leave. We can use all the help we can get around here, so I am glad that a lot of them are sticking with it, so far. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-us-20141275127398488.html http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-us-20141275127398488.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
Hi Share, this cracked me up, only because I don't think I've seen this description before, of the guys on here: ...you want comments only from the male loungers? The picture that formed, was a bunch of louts and touts, with slicked back hair, and shiny shirts, slouching all over the furniture, in the lobby of a cheezy hotel -- making noise, harassing the guests, and maybe you're description is not so far off, after all - lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, by *guys* do you mean you want comments only from the male loungers? Anyway, I like ayurveda principles a lot. And have gotten good results with Chinese herbs. Go figure (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:22 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast. Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
Doc, glad you enjoyed your description so much. From my side it was just an abbreviation of Funny Farm Loungers. PS I'm still recuperating from your utterance, not sure if it was here or on *that other* forum: Unity sucks! On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:57 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hi Share, this cracked me up, only because I don't think I've seen this description before, of the guys on here: ...you want comments only from the male loungers? The picture that formed, was a bunch of louts and touts, with slicked back hair, and shiny shirts, slouching all over the furniture, in the lobby of a cheezy hotel -- making noise, harassing the guests, and maybe you're description is not so far off, after all - lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, by *guys* do you mean you want comments only from the male loungers? Anyway, I like ayurveda principles a lot. And have gotten good results with Chinese herbs. Go figure (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:22 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfriend@... wrote: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast. Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast.* Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Richard, I thought Carde was using NSR to stand for Noise to Signal Ratio as he was talking about sound value of beej mantras. On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:46 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/26/2014 11:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Card's posts are in their own little world. You are supposed to read the comments already posted BEFORE you post your own - we've been talking about stress relief for years on Google Groups and Yahoo Groups. It's starting to look like Turq is just out of the spiritual loop and caught up in the secular world. He often uses the spiritual jargon - spiritual without in the least seeming to understand what it is he's commenting on. Go figure. NSRNatural Stress Relief (meditation technique) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR
Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
MJ: Let's see the proof in the pudding. There's already about a billion people over there in India that are praying every day, so obviously a lack of meditators is not the problem. And anyway it's not your problem. What you should be concerned about is your own guns and and your own practice, or lack of it. By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world. Change in society begins with individual success in creating peace - it's not a matter of proximity - just sit down a few times a day and radiate peace to everyone in the world. Other than that, you should just try to live a life causing nobody any harm. It's that simple. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy. The Guns Godmen Of Ayodhya With a large section of the sadhus in Ayodhya involved in serious crimes, the holy town is in a terrible mess. Brijesh Singh reports February 1992. In the midst of a political storm stirred by the Ram Mandir movement, Mahant Lal Das, the then chief priest of the Ram Janmabhoomi temple inside the Babri Masjid complex in Ayodhya was murdered. The search began for a new mahant, one with a clean reputation and free of any criminal charges or political motives. It was after much difficulty that Satyendra Das was appointed the new mahant. 21 July 2013. In a land dispute, the supporters of two mahants — Bhavnath Das, national president of the Samajwadi Party’s Sant Sabha, and Hari Shankar Das Pehelwan, a BJP supporter — opened fire at each other. One man was killed and a dozen injured. These two incidents, separated by two decades, represent the sinister reality of Ayodhya. With bloody clashes over land disputes, murder of mahants and rape of minors, the “holy city” has turned into a living hell. According to RKS Rathore, a former SSP of Ayodhya, many sadhus are involved in criminal activities. Most of the 7,000 temples and maths in Ayodhya have become centres of crime. Over the past few years, more than 250 sadhus have been booked for crimes, including murder; some have been killed in police encounters. For instance, Mahant Harinarayan Das, who was killed in an encounter near Gonda last year, had several criminal charges against him, including murder. Mahant Ram Prakash Das was shot dead by the police in 1995. According to police sources, more than 200 sadhus have been killed in Ayodhya in the past decade. A few days ago, the chief priest of the famous Hanuman Garhi temple, Hari Shankar Das, was shot six times by one of his disciples. Last year, the then mahant Ramesh Das and a priest alleged that some sadhus were planning to murder him. And a few days later, another priest of the temple, Gauri Shankar Das, alleged that his guru Ramagya Das’ killer, Mahant Tribhuvan Das, wanted him dead too. The mahants of some temples are accused of illegally taking over the property of other temples, murdering their chief priests or expelling them by force. Many of Ayodhya’s “saints” are busy accumulating property, fighting legal battles and arranging for bodyguards. “Tribhuvan Das, Hanuman Garhi temple’s former chief priest, was the first to allow criminals into Ayodhya in order to establish his supremacy in the area,” says Vairagi Sadhu Ramanand. “Das set up his own math after he was expelled from Hanuman Garhi because of his criminal activities.” Adds another priest of the Hanuman Garhi temple, Gauri Shankar Das, “Tribhuvan is behind the murder of more than 100 sadhus.” Arjun Das, the mahant of Ramcharitmanas Bhavan, alleges that all of Tribhuvan’s disciples have criminal background. “He made many disciples when he was in jail. They came to Ayodhya looking for him after being released,” he says. “Tribhuvan’s temple became a haven for criminals from Bihar.” Despite being accused in a number of criminal cases, Tribhuvan is still thriving in Ayodhya. Several mahants of the Hanuman Garhi temple have been targets of violent attacks. In 1984, Hari Bhajan Das was shot dead by his own disciples. In 1992, Deen Bandhu Das was attacked several times and forced to relinquish his position and lead a life of anonymity in
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to
[FairfieldLife] RE: Challenge for Buck and The TMO
MJ, Unfortunately the recent Invincible Assembly failed to achieve proper numbers to credibly research the effect of advanced meditation at the square root of one percent level. The Invincible assembly collapsed and failed before the square root hypothesis could be definitively proven statistically in repeatable science method. It was close but the data could not be secured. Ultimately the Assembly failed and collapsed because spiritually apathetic anti-science people with no vision did not show up to help for some small selfish reasons and the administration of the course guidelines in place at the time retarded the aggregate number of people who could come to meditate in a group. That is history now and all we are saying here is, let's give peace a chance. The science thus far is quite evident around peace-making by a practice of deploying transcending meditation as a scientific practice. We are waiting for public policy to catch up and support this and people like you to re-group of good sense. Firm as a Rock, -Buck in the Dome Mjackson74 writes: Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
Richard, by *guys* do you mean you want comments only from the male loungers? Anyway, I like ayurveda principles a lot. And have gotten good results with Chinese herbs. Go figure (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast. Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Steve, not right away, but later I wondered if Xeno was playing off the whole jargon topic. I love his dry delivery but often don't get it immediately. Probably MY senior moment (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 7:24 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
On 1/26/2014 1:35 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW, the beej mantra of the muladhara chakra as ROT-1* is MBN... * Moving each letter one ahead (M = L; B = A; N = M) Thanks for this information - I was wondering about the bijas correspondence after viewing Susan Shumsky's yantra diagram indicating in Sanskrit the bija mantra for each chakra. There are apparently no informants on this list that can correctly identify their own bija mantra in if shown a series of Sanskrit or Hindi flash cards - I mean other than the OM symbol. Apparently I'm the only respondent that knows any Tibetan. Go figure. 'Exploring Chakras' by Susan Shumsky 2003
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: OK, I am glad you enjoyed your nasty tidbit, at my expense, or so you think. Yeah, I've embarrassed the hell out of myself more times than I can count. But it sure beats the alternative, as you amply demonstrate. Just as a question, how can embarrassment happen without attachment? If you have no self and no image of self to protect or defend, how can you possibly be embarrassed, no matter what it does? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: correction: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, can be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. No problem. You're just not attached to being able to spell. It's a little like your non-attachment to being able to count, back when we still had posting limits. You were, after all, the FFL poster who spent the most time on the I Have No Self Control bench. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy. The Guns Godmen Of Ayodhya With a large section of the sadhus in Ayodhya involved in serious crimes, the holy town is in a terrible mess. Brijesh Singh reports February 1992. In the midst of a political storm stirred by the Ram Mandir movement, Mahant Lal Das, the then chief priest of the Ram Janmabhoomi temple inside the Babri Masjid complex in Ayodhya was murdered. The search began for a new mahant, one with a clean reputation and free of any criminal charges or political motives. It was after much difficulty that Satyendra Das was appointed the new mahant. 21 July 2013. In a land dispute, the supporters of two mahants — Bhavnath Das, national president of the Samajwadi Party’s Sant Sabha, and Hari Shankar Das Pehelwan, a BJP supporter — opened fire at each other. One man was killed and a dozen injured. These two incidents, separated by two decades, represent the sinister reality of Ayodhya. With bloody clashes over land disputes, murder of mahants and rape of minors, the “holy city” has turned into a living hell. According to RKS Rathore, a former SSP of Ayodhya, many sadhus are involved in criminal activities. Most of the 7,000 temples and maths in Ayodhya have become centres of crime. Over the past few years, more than 250 sadhus have been booked for crimes, including murder; some have been killed in police encounters. For instance, Mahant Harinarayan Das, who was killed in an encounter near Gonda last year, had several criminal charges against him, including murder. Mahant Ram Prakash Das was shot dead by the police in 1995. According to police sources, more than 200 sadhus have been killed in Ayodhya in the past decade. A few days ago, the chief priest of the famous Hanuman Garhi temple, Hari Shankar Das, was shot six times by one of his disciples. Last year, the then mahant Ramesh Das and a priest alleged that some sadhus were planning to murder him. And a few days later, another priest of the temple, Gauri Shankar Das, alleged that his guru Ramagya Das’ killer, Mahant Tribhuvan Das, wanted him dead too. The mahants of some temples are accused of illegally taking over the property of other temples, murdering their chief priests or expelling them by force. Many of Ayodhya’s “saints” are busy accumulating property, fighting legal battles and arranging for bodyguards. “Tribhuvan Das, Hanuman Garhi temple’s former chief priest, was the first to allow criminals into Ayodhya in order to establish his supremacy in the area,” says Vairagi Sadhu Ramanand. “Das set up his own math after he was expelled from Hanuman Garhi because of his criminal activities.” Adds another priest of the Hanuman Garhi temple, Gauri Shankar Das, “Tribhuvan is behind the murder of more than 100 sadhus.” Arjun Das, the mahant of Ramcharitmanas Bhavan, alleges that all of Tribhuvan’s disciples have criminal background. “He made many disciples when he was in jail. They came to Ayodhya looking for him after being released,” he says. “Tribhuvan’s temple became a haven for criminals from Bihar.” Despite being accused in a number of criminal cases, Tribhuvan is still thriving in Ayodhya. Several mahants of the Hanuman Garhi temple have been targets of violent attacks. In 1984, Hari Bhajan Das was shot dead by his own disciples. In 1992, Deen Bandhu Das was attacked several times and forced to relinquish his position and lead a life of anonymity in Ayodhya. In 1995, Sadhu Naveen Das and his four accomplices murdered Mahant Ramagya Das in the temple premises. In 2005, two Naga sadhus hurled bombs at each other. In 2010, sadhus Bajrang Das and Harbhajan Das were shot dead by an unknown assailant. The next year, Mahant Prahlad Das was shot dead by a gang of sadhus. Also known as “goonda baba”, Prahlad Das had a number of charges against him, including murder, and the Faizabad district administration had slapped the Goondas Act on him. The head of the Ramjanmabhoomi Nyas, Nritya Gopal Das, is also accused of criminal activities. “This man is not a saint, but a land-grabber and a goon,” says a mahant on the condition of anonymity. “If he likes a piece of land, you have two options: either give him the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders --
Re: [FairfieldLife] The outside and the inside meet at the door (It's NOT Buddhist mood-making :-)
It's bigger on the inside. On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Hagelin; Maharishi, what is that door ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2-I8FRYHUE (It's not Buddhist mood-making :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe wrote: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-u\ s-20141275127398488.html http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-\ us-20141275127398488.html Now THAT is an article we're not likely to see picked up and reprinted on Global Good News. :-) And isn't it fascinating to see the little detail no one here has ever confirmed before, but that many have suspected. That is, the 10-15 year commitment. Sounds a lot like indentured servitude, doesn't it? You know, the practice that was eliminated in the United States back in the early 1900s.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
On 1/26/2014 4:41 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */I can't help translating your question into Far Side-speak the way some of us hear it./* TurquoiseB: Anyone know if blah blah uses exclusively the blah blah of the blah blah (blah blah of the blah blah)? Translated, this probably means something like: I read over 200 books on the Cathars, but not a single book on the Gnostics. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the plight or flight of these Vedic scholars called 'world peace professionals'. They have jumped the fence for immigration purposes or for chasing their American Dream, the newspaper quoted the varsity bosses as saying. The GCWP runs a Vedic Pandit programme claiming to bring about peace on earth where there will be no war. Under the project to recruit Maharishi Vedic Pandits, publicity literature is distributed in Indian villages, mostly in Hindi speaking areas, among people living under the poverty line. Children are enrolled with the permission of their parents, who are promised that their wards would be given education up to 12th standard, after which they would be turned into Pandits or masters of the art of Hindu religious rites and services. After some 10 to 15 years, the qualified Pandits are supposed to have a choice to either remain with the organisation and make a living, or leave the centre and work outside on their own. Investigations by Hi India have found that the kids of the programme, enrolled at the tender age of five years, were rarely provided education beyond fifth standard. After investigation by the newspaper, it came to light that these Vedic Pandits were brought to the US from India and were kept in makeshift trailer homes to be guarded by round-the-clock guards. When contacted, most officials of the Maharishi's Fairfield complex refused to comment. Only one of them suggested that these students might have run away for immigration purposes. According to one Pandit, before the visa application at the US embassy in India, a contract is prepared and signed by the organization and the concerned Pandit for rules, regulations and compensation. The Pandits are initially sent to the US for two years, and thereafter, either their visa is extended for six more months or they are sent back and recalled for two more years. According to the report, a contract is drafted in English but the copy is neither given to Pandits nor is it translated or explained to the fifth-grader emigrants who do not even understand English. The contract states that they will be given $50 compensation while in the US and another $150 in India. This $150 is not given on a monthly basis to the families of the Pandits but, rather, is considered as bond money. If the Pandit 'behaves well', his so-called compensation for two years is given to him or his family on his return from the US. The contract is prepared in a way to obtain visa, the report said. According to the newspaper, if the management of the Vedic City finds out that some Pandits are desperate to leave the US, a mock travel plan is chalked out and the Pandits are taken in a van to Chicago's O'Hare airport and dropped at the entry gate. After asking them to wait till the aircraft arrives while the van driver goes around and comes back in a short while. According to one Pandit who was about to flee, some of the strong-willed Pandits run away from the airport for better prospects and the rest of them are picked up by the driver and taken back to the Vedic City. According to sources in the Indian consulate in Chicago, in a situation where an Indian passport holder is considered or presumed gone missing and his passport is left behind, it has to be returned immediately to the nearest Indian mission which has to also be informed about the circumstances in which the Indian citizen went missing. The Chicago consulate, however, says the GCWP has never returned or deposited any passport and neither has it shared any missing person information. According the sheriff's department and police department of Fairfield, Iowa, no missing person report has ever been filed by the GCWP. Read more at:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
OK, I am glad you enjoyed your nasty tidbit, at my expense, or so you think. Yeah, I've embarrassed the hell out of myself more times than I can count. But it sure beats the alternative, as you amply demonstrate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: correction: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, can be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. No problem. You're just not attached to being able to spell. It's a little like your non-attachment to being able to count, back when we still had posting limits. You were, after all, the FFL poster who spent the most time on the I Have No Self Control bench. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Well, you know, Little Stevie, if I thought you were actually referring to something real, I'd ask you for specific examples. But I know you don't do examples when you make accusations. So instead I'll just chuckle at your attempt to suggest that evil old Xeno was hoping to trick his readers into taking him seriously, rather than simply acknowledging that you and Share fucked up (Share because no opportunity for her to make a post, relevant or otherwise, is to be passed up, and you because Share must AT ALL COSTS be protected from her own helplessness). This was one of your more elaborate and imaginative evasions of accountability, Little Stevie. And believe me, Share is so appreciative. In any case, put an asterisk beside it; you may be able to adapt it for future use. You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you
[FairfieldLife] In Memorium, Mary Iber
Memorial notice on the bulletin board in the Dome this morning, Mary Iber passed away recently. Memorial service at the Liberal Catholic Church in Fairfield, Ia. on Feb 1st, 10:00am Coming early with the meditator settlement of Fairfield, Iowa Mary Iber was also of the founding meditator members of the Liberal Catholic Church in Fairfield. !Jai Mary Iber!
Re: [FairfieldLife] such a bad omen
God is trying to tell you something! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63_62xVo7c On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw that the other day! My exact thoughts, bad omen.The Pope releases doves from his window and they are attacked by a seagull and a crow. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:40 PM, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25905108 seagull - rahu crow - saturn
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Challenge for Buck and The TMO
So prove it. The TMO has billions, and there are supposedly 8,000 flyers in Latin America. Let the TMO fly all 8,000, plus all world peace minded Americans and Canadians and Europeans (I'm sure Neal Patterson would love to join in from Canada if the TMO would pay his way) Plus there should be a butt load of flyers and yagya chanters already over in India - the numbers should be a snap to achieve - just send 'em to Ayodha and see what happens. I am willing to believe IF I see real results. The Movement has the money and the flyers - come on King Tony and Big Bopper Bevan, put your money and your flyers where your mouth is. On Mon, 1/27/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Challenge for Buck and The TMO To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 4:04 PM MJ, Unfortunately the recent Invincible Assembly failed to achieve proper numbers to credibly research the effect of advanced meditation at the square root of one percent level. The Invincible assembly collapsed and failed before the square root hypothesis could be definitively proven statistically in repeatable science method. It was close but the data could not be secured. Ultimately the Assembly failed and collapsed because spiritually apathetic anti-science people with no vision did not show up to help for some small selfish reasons and the administration of the course guidelines in place at the time retarded the aggregate number of people who could come to meditate in a group. That is history now and all we are saying here is, let's give peace a chance. The science thus far is quite evident around peace-making by a practice of deploying transcending meditation as a scientific practice. We are waiting for public policy to catch up and support this and people like you to re-group of good sense.Firm as a Rock, -Buck in the Dome Mjackson74 writes: Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
I simply cannot wait to see how the TM and TMO apologists here deal with this, and try to make excuses for it. Items I'd like to see them deal with are highlighted in red below. Can you say We told you so? We did, many times here on FFL. You didn't listen. The most fascinating part for me is that because of the delayed payment scam, it is likely that the GCWP has ever paid out a single penny of the $150 per month payments promised to the parents of these runaway kids. And never will. That's a scheme that Maharishi himself would have been proud of thinking up. Maybe he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the plight or flight of these Vedic scholars called 'world peace professionals'. They have jumped the fence for immigration purposes or for chasing their American Dream, the newspaper quoted the varsity bosses as saying. The GCWP runs a Vedic Pandit programme claiming to bring about peace on earth where there will be no war. Under the project to recruit Maharishi Vedic Pandits, publicity literature is distributed in Indian villages, mostly in Hindi speaking areas, among people living under the poverty line. Children are enrolled with the permission of their parents, who are promised that their wards would be given education up to 12th standard, after which they would be turned into Pandits or masters of the art of Hindu religious rites and services. After some 10 to 15 years, the qualified Pandits are supposed to have a choice to either remain with the organisation and make a living, or leave the centre and work outside on their own. Investigations by Hi India have found that the kids of the programme, enrolled at the tender age of five years, were rarely provided education beyond fifth standard. After investigation by the newspaper, it came to light that these Vedic Pandits were brought to the US from India and were kept in makeshift trailer homes to be guarded by round-the-clock guards. When contacted, most officials of the Maharishi's Fairfield complex refused to comment. Only one of them suggested that these students might have run away for immigration purposes. According to one Pandit, before the visa application at the US embassy in India, a contract is prepared and signed by the organization and the concerned Pandit for rules, regulations and compensation. The Pandits are initially sent to the US for two years, and thereafter, either their visa is extended for six more months or they are sent back and recalled for two more years. According to the report, a contract is drafted in English but the copy is neither given to Pandits nor is it translated or explained to the fifth-grader emigrants who do not even understand English. The contract states that they will be given $50 compensation while in the US and another $150 in India. This $150 is not given on a monthly basis to the families of the Pandits but, rather, is considered as bond money. If the Pandit 'behaves well', his so-called compensation for two years is given to him or his family on his return from the US. The contract is prepared in a way to obtain visa, the report said. According to the newspaper, if the management of the Vedic City finds out that some Pandits are desperate to leave the US, a mock travel plan is chalked out and the Pandits are taken in a van to Chicago's O'Hare airport and dropped at the entry gate. After asking them to wait till the aircraft arrives while the van driver goes around and comes back in a short while. According to one Pandit who was about to flee, some of the strong-willed Pandits run away from the airport for better prospects and the rest of them are picked up by the driver and taken back to the Vedic City. According to sources in the Indian consulate in Chicago, in a situation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
I agree with what you say. I understand the attitude of the MUM folks not wanting to look for the missing pundits in training - its just like their attitude towards everyone else - if you aren't working for us, making money for us or giving us good free PR we don't give a crap about you. The thing I can't figure out is why they recruit the boys to start with. It takes some money to feed,m house and transport them to the US - the only money I know of are the ongoing solicitations from Hagelin and other TMO big shots to give money to bring the pundits over here, and I know they claim it takes a couple million to do that. But aside from that, I don't see how it benefits the TMO to keep recruiting the boys. On Mon, 1/27/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 4:47 PM I simply cannot wait to see how the TM and TMO apologists here deal with this, and try to make excuses for it. Items I'd like to see them deal with are highlighted in red below. Can you say We told you so? We did, many times here on FFL. You didn't listen. The most fascinating part for me is that because of the delayed payment scam, it is likely that the GCWP has ever paid out a single penny of the $150 per month payments promised to the parents of these runaway kids. And never will. That's a scheme that Maharishi himself would have been proud of thinking up. Maybe he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the plight or flight of these Vedic scholars called 'world peace professionals'. They have jumped the fence for immigration purposes or for chasing their American Dream, the newspaper quoted the varsity bosses as saying. The GCWP runs a Vedic Pandit programme claiming to bring about peace on earth where there will be no war. Under the project to recruit Maharishi Vedic Pandits, publicity literature is distributed in Indian villages, mostly in Hindi speaking areas, among people living under the poverty line. Children are enrolled with the permission of their parents, who are promised that their wards would be given education up to 12th standard, after which they would be turned into Pandits or masters of the art of Hindu religious rites and services. After some 10 to 15 years, the qualified Pandits are supposed to have a choice to either remain with the organisation and make a living, or leave the centre and work outside on their own. Investigations by Hi India have found that the kids of the programme, enrolled at the tender age of five years, were rarely provided education beyond fifth standard. After investigation by the newspaper, it came to light that these Vedic Pandits were brought to the US from India and were kept in makeshift trailer homes to be guarded by round-the-clock guards. When contacted, most officials of the Maharishi's Fairfield complex refused to comment. Only one of them suggested that these students might have run away for immigration purposes. According to one Pandit, before the visa application at the US embassy in India, a contract is prepared and signed by the organization and the concerned Pandit for rules, regulations and compensation. The Pandits are initially sent to the US for two years, and thereafter, either their visa is extended for six more months or they are sent back and recalled for two more years. According to the report, a contract is drafted in English but the copy is neither given to Pandits nor
[FairfieldLife] Are You Sure You Exist?
Question of the day: how do you know you exist?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
Brahman Consciousness: waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming waking sleeping dreaming... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?
Question of the day: how do you know you exist? I typed this.
[FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids
Check out the NSA's CryptoKids website. http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ Unbelievable. Want your kid working for the NSA?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Venture Capitalist Says War on the Rich Is Like Nazi Germany's War on the Jews
You should know as well as I the 'tude of Silly Conned Valley folks. In the 1980s most programmers I knew were not political at all. Sometime in the 1990s many decided it was time to get political and what did they pick? Libertarianism! Barf! On 01/26/2014 05:56 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I have trouble believing he actually said that - It reads like satire, and yet, I know he is serious. What a Bozo. Interesting that a multi-Billionaire, who made his money from exploiting others, is now unhappy that we don't all love him. Karma's a bitch. I don't care if he fills swimming pools with his money, and bathes in it - He can have it. Beyond a reasonably comfortable life, money is such an illusion, such an addiction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: In a letter to the Wall Street Journal, Tom Perkins makes the worst historical analogy you will read for a long, long time. Read More: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/venture-capitalist-says-war-on-the-rich-is-like-nazi-germanys-war-on-the-jews/283347/ What an ass snob. People like this are asking for it and it will end badly for them. And I will stand by and enjoy the holocaust they so *richly* deserve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?
What is the I? On 01/27/2014 09:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Question of the day: how do you know you exist? I typed this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
How ya gonna keep 'em down in Fairfield after they've seen TV? (Might make a good song) On 01/27/2014 07:52 AM, Joe wrote: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/01/indian-vedic-students-go-missing-us-20141275127398488.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids
Yes! So they can be on the side of the winners!!! You do realize NSA is now going to spy on all your e-mail since you are posting stuff that is critical of them. That's why I am giving a pro-NSA answer so they will put me on a list of those not to be put against the wall. On Mon, 1/27/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 5:50 PM Check out the NSA's CryptoKids website. http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ Unbelievable. Want your kid working for the NSA?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Do the gods Exist?
Its a damned good question - I have to have an identity, and a personality, in order to function. That doesn't automatically mean that I own it, or think of it as mine, yet, nonetheless, I am wholly responsible for how I act, and what I do. So my embarrassment comes about, when it does, when I miscalculate something, as I sometimes do, since I operate a lot without preconceptions, and hence, in uncharted territory. It is more a mechanism for self-correction, a practical thing, rather than leaning towards shame, which would occur if I were primarily dismayed by my actions, vs. my self-image. It is difficult for me to be more precise, so I'll leave it at that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: OK, I am glad you enjoyed your nasty tidbit, at my expense, or so you think. Yeah, I've embarrassed the hell out of myself more times than I can count. But it sure beats the alternative, as you amply demonstrate. Just as a question, how can embarrassment happen without attachment? If you have no self and no image of self to protect or defend, how can you possibly be embarrassed, no matter what it does? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: correction: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, can be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. No problem. You're just not attached to being able to spell. It's a little like your non-attachment to being able to count, back when we still had posting limits. You were, after all, the FFL poster who spent the most time on the I Have No Self Control bench. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am pointing out that the mistake of thinking that non-attachment, and other full-blown symptoms, as I call them, of Enlightenment, cannot be consciously learned, and that to pretend to do so, is injurious, and a waste of time. Your behavior is a perfect example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: If spiritual masters were regulated by the advertising standards authority wouldn't they be fined for their false promises of bliss consciousness? If anything, they should be fined, for, on the one hand, holding out the promise of bliss consciousness, and, on the other, failing to provide a technique to establish such a state. Without the technique, it is like a bunch of Buddhists running around, talking about non-attachment, while reflecting, Noggin-attachment, instead. There is such hunger in the world for spiritual progress, yet 99.999% of the 'teachers' on the subject, have no clue. But *I* do, which is why you should pay attention to *ME* and what *I* say, rather than these know-nothings. Especially if they represent 2500-year-old Buddhist traditions rather than the slightly-over-50-year-old tradition established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he made up the technique of Transcendental Meditation out of whole cloth. Besides, you should believe *ME*, because I'm so bloody *special*, having realized the full potential of this slightly-over-50-year-old tradition, and thus being more enlightened than you are. *I* am the one you should pay attention to, because...uh...well...I deserve it. *I* will tell you the TRUTH about which techniques are effective (even though I've never been trained in how to teach any of them) and will tell you *better* than any of these other 99.999% of teachers (even though I've never been one, and wouldn't even know how to *begin* to teach TM, much less any other form of meditation). So yeah, that's the ticket. Don't believe what any of these (spit) Buddhists say. Believe *ME* because...uh...well...because I *want* you to. The more people like you who focus on me and believe the stuff I say, even though I've never had any training in anything I say, the better off you'll be. Because *I* know the TRUTH, and 99.999% of the spiritual teachers in the world don't. Besides, *I* am humble about how incredibly special and highly evolved *I* am, and (spit) they aren't. Did I capture what you were trying to say adequately, Jimbo? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
Why? Benefit? Because when you look at the brain wave signatures of chanting the veda in sanskrit then the vedic chanting seems is a third technique along with TM and the TM-sidhis that demonstrates the global coherence of evident spirituality. So, when it was recently not possible to bring westerners to the front to meditate in a large enough group then it was an obvious solution to the deficit Dome numbers to augment the group numbers by outsourcing to the pundit group. That was paid for and sustained by generous donations of high-minded people. It is a very large altruistic project with complex logistics and people in it playing out. The intent is good and there are a lot of hands involved. It ain't over yet. Aside from all that, this is about modern science and cultivating spirituality. Vedic Science. Get over it. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I agree with what you say. I understand the attitude of the MUM folks not wanting to look for the missing pundits in training - its just like their attitude towards everyone else - if you aren't working for us, making money for us or giving us good free PR we don't give a crap about you. The thing I can't figure out is why they recruit the boys to start with. It takes some money to feed,m house and transport them to the US - the only money I know of are the ongoing solicitations from Hagelin and other TMO big shots to give money to bring the pundits over here, and I know they claim it takes a couple million to do that. But aside from that, I don't see how it benefits the TMO to keep recruiting the boys. On Mon, 1/27/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 4:47 PM I simply cannot wait to see how the TM and TMO apologists here deal with this, and try to make excuses for it. Items I'd like to see them deal with are highlighted in red below. Can you say We told you so? We did, many times here on FFL. You didn't listen. The most fascinating part for me is that because of the delayed payment scam, it is likely that the GCWP has ever paid out a single penny of the $150 per month payments promised to the parents of these runaway kids. And never will. That's a scheme that Maharishi himself would have been proud of thinking up. Maybe he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the plight or flight of these Vedic scholars called 'world peace professionals'. They have jumped the fence for immigration purposes or for chasing their American Dream, the newspaper quoted the varsity bosses as saying. The GCWP runs a Vedic Pandit programme claiming to bring about peace on earth where there will be no war. Under the project to recruit Maharishi Vedic Pandits, publicity literature is distributed in Indian villages, mostly in Hindi speaking areas, among people living under the poverty line. Children are enrolled with the permission of their parents, who are promised that their wards would be given education up to 12th standard, after which they would be turned into Pandits or masters of the art of Hindu religious rites and services. After some 10 to 15 years, the qualified Pandits are supposed to have a choice to either remain with the organisation and make a living, or leave the centre and work outside on their own. Investigations by Hi India have found that the kids of the programme, enrolled at the tender age of five
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
Thanks - it was on the other forum. Know thy audience.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, glad you enjoyed your description so much. From my side it was just an abbreviation of Funny Farm Loungers. PS I'm still recuperating from your utterance, not sure if it was here or on *that other* forum: Unity sucks! On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:57 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Hi Share, this cracked me up, only because I don't think I've seen this description before, of the guys on here: ...you want comments only from the male loungers? The picture that formed, was a bunch of louts and touts, with slicked back hair, and shiny shirts, slouching all over the furniture, in the lobby of a cheezy hotel -- making noise, harassing the guests, and maybe you're description is not so far off, after all - lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, by *guys* do you mean you want comments only from the male loungers? Anyway, I like ayurveda principles a lot. And have gotten good results with Chinese herbs. Go figure (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:22 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast. Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Question of the day: how do you know you exist? My Descartesian answer: I post obvious trollbait, and some people are so stupid and so attached as to get their hot buttons pushed by it and feel that they have to reply. :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Question of the day: how do you know you exist? I typed this. Typed what? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids
Forget Google Maps - they know every move you make by monitoring Google Earth at your street level. If they really need to know what you are up to they just take over your desktop web cam and/or your mobile phone camera without you even knowing it. You car has GPS inside it and your IP adress is known from your most recent posting to a social networking site. You can run but you cannot hide. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: Yes! So they can be on the side of the winners!!! You do realize NSA is now going to spy on all your e-mail since you are posting stuff that is critical of them. That's why I am giving a pro-NSA answer so they will put me on a list of those not to be put against the wall. On Mon, 1/27/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 5:50 PM Check out the NSA's CryptoKids website. http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ Unbelievable. Want your kid working for the NSA?
[FairfieldLife] RE: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
These young boys are like students who enter a Roman Catholic seminary. Many of those students do not finish their studies or if they did, do not become priests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids
No, the NSA put out a memo to employees not to read my emails anymore after they found employees asleep at their desks trying read them. Besides they're more concerned about the alleged human trafficking at Vedic City. On 01/27/2014 10:16 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Yes! So they can be on the side of the winners!!! You do realize NSA is now going to spy on all your e-mail since you are posting stuff that is critical of them. That's why I am giving a pro-NSA answer so they will put me on a list of those not to be put against the wall. On Mon, 1/27/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 5:50 PM Check out the NSA's CryptoKids website. http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ Unbelievable. Want your kid working for the NSA?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru training text
Thanks for that, Share. That is a good source. I spoke with my friend who said that wasn't it though. She said that the (former?) moderator of the list, Tom, was in on the conversation about it a while back. Any other ideas anyone? Thanks! Ted Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:49 pm(PST). Posted by: Share Long sharelong60 Kundalini Vidya by Joan Harrigan http://kundalinicar e.com/ On Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:27 PM, TVIV tviv2001@yahoo. com wrote: Hi Everyone, A friend of mine who was on this list for a few years said that she remembered a text being discussed here that was, in essence, a kind of training manual for spiritual teachers. From a guru's guru, so to speak. It included examples of various ways kundalini could rise (and the different challenges that can come depending on the condition of nadis, chakras, etc.) and ways to work with that via pranayama and a host of other means. So: not a text on how to raise kundalini, but a text on the what to do afterwards for various types of people, on into the advanced stages, years after the process is underway. Thank you! Ted
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Ayerveda
Apparently there are a few guys that understand that diet means anything you take in, whether mental or physical. To most gals this is probably a given: you are what you eat and you are what you think. If a person lives in a food desert the last thing they will be thinking about is being on a diet of any kind - you just take what you can get. We know this artist fellow and his wife who live down the street from us. They are on a special diet but to them it's just a natural way of living. They went off dairy several years ago and these days they eat only organic food they buy at Whole Foods or at Central Market. They are eating organic vegetables and fruits and only whole grains they buy in bulk such as brown rice, lentils and beans. It sounds real sensible to me. Go figure. In Indian mythology Lord Dhanvantari was the Physician to the Gods. He was originally a Sun God, and prominent in the Vedas. Dhanvantari was identified as the carrier of 'ambrosia' from the primeval ocean and as the teacher of medicine to mankind. Dhanvantari is the god of health care - the 17th incarnation of Lord Vishnu. [image: Inline image 2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhanvantari-at-Ayurveda-expo.jpg Dhanvantari's appearance is celebrated each year on the 13th day (trayodasi) of the waxing moon a few days before the Divali. Lord Dhanvantari's teachings are recorded in the Agni Purana 279-289 as well as through the teachings of his disciple Susrutha. The Bhagavatam states smrta-matrarti-nasanah which translated means One who remembers the name of Dhanvantari can be released from all disease. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, by *guys* do you mean you want comments only from the male loungers? Anyway, I like ayurveda principles a lot. And have gotten good results with Chinese herbs. Go figure (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: authfriend: Terrific song, fabulous musical. Thanks for all the information about the song from Guy's and Dolls. Do you guys have any comments to make about MMY's Ayerveda? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Terrific song, fabulous musical. Too bad the movie version wasn't so hot (Brando gave it his best shot, but...). At least they kept Stubby Kaye and Vivian Blaine from the original cast.* Every time I hear the word equipoise I think of this song from Guys and Dolls. Part of the lyric is about a horse where the actor sings He says his great grandfather was Equipoise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipoise_%28horse%29
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Question of the day: how do you know you exist? My Descartesian answer: I post obvious trollbait, and some people are so stupid and so attached as to get their hot buttons pushed by it and feel that they have to reply. :-) :-) :-) Now here is a man with a real direction in his life. Sit by the computer and decide how to post really important and thoughtful things on the internet. You're a real catch Bawyy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
First off, praying is different than activating the unified field in the human physiology with transcending meditation. The science says so. Second I'd like to see that many, the square root of one percent, meditators in a place meditating too. The science is pretty clear that this should be good public policy everywhere. Trying to contend that it does not work because it has not been done is a silly position to start with. Thirdly, In the meantime RW's advice is quite good. “By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world.” Yes, certainly take quiet time with a transcending meditation where you are. It is well recognized by science now that one percent of a population meditating changes things for good. The square toot of one percent practicing advanced meditation or chanting sanskrit are hypothesis waiting still to be researched further. Everything thus far demonstrates that aggregate numbers and proximity do matter to peace. Based on that it is time for people to meditate in a nearby group. Like the Quakers have long known and done. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: MJ: Let's see the proof in the pudding. There's already about a billion people over there in India that are praying every day, so obviously a lack of meditators is not the problem. And anyway it's not your problem. What you should be concerned about is your own guns and and your own practice, or lack of it. By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world. Change in society begins with individual success in creating peace - it's not a matter of proximity - just sit down a few times a day and radiate peace to everyone in the world. Other than that, you should just try to live a life causing nobody any harm. It's that simple. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote: Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] such a bad omen
Well, the Osprey would have meant that Seattle was going to win. Thank God a wild Mustang didn't come into the picture! Now, seagulls represent Mormons and the Ravens, Baltimore football fans.I guess Baltimore is going to draft somebody out of Brigham Young who is going to *F*-up the peace within the NFL. That is the significance of a seagull and raven attacking the doves. No justice, no peace! On Monday, January 27, 2014 7:39 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Can you even *imagine* if the attacking birds had been, an osprey, and a raven (osprey = dust bunny, raven = Planet Hollywood)?? I shudder to think. Cosmically, we got off easy... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Saw that the other day! My exact thoughts, bad omen.The Pope releases doves from his window and they are attacked by a seagull and a crow. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:40 PM, srijau@... srijau@... wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25905108 seagull - rahu crow - saturn
[FairfieldLife] Predator Bars
I'm laboring under a tremendous deadline this week. I have to produce *all* of the Web content for a client for February *before* February. So I have to finish about three times the number of articles, blogs, and press releases for them as usual. To turn the pressure into fun, I decided to try to not only make the deadline -- I *never* miss deadlines, and haven't in over 35 years as a professional writer and developer -- but to find some way to turn it into FUN. So I decided to finish early. I'm well on my way. Counting the number of pieces I have to write before Friday, I have to write six 600-to-800-word blurbs for them every day. Today I wrote nine. A good start, as they say, and as intended, it turned my day into FUN, rather than a chore. So I went out to celebrate. And so I find myself sitting here in a new bar for me in Leiden. It's more upscale than many of the places I usually hang out, downright Dutch 1% to be honest. Probably as a result, it took me less than a minute of scanning the room after I sat down at my corner table to figure out what kind of a bar this was. It's a Predator Bar. Be warned. The following is a cafe story that may not be in the *least* spiritual, that only Michael may like, and that may have no redeeming qualities. When many of you who saw the Subject line heard the term Predator Bar, you probably had ideas form in your heads about what that term meant. Some of you probably thought of the hookup/swinger scene, and envisioned hordes of predatory guys looking for love or whatever would pass for it for only one night. The women are their prey. Or, if you're a gal who frequented such establishments, just looking for nothing more than a one-night stand yourself, you might have thought of hordes of horny women looking the proverbial a hard man is good to find. :-) But that's not quite what I had in mind when I used the term Predator Bar. That term I made up when I was still living in Santa Fe but commuting several days a week to my consulting gig near Detroit. During this phase of the gig, I didn't actually live in Detroit but in a way upscale suburb called Birmingham. Its residents were pretty much auto executives and their trophy wives. It wasn't exactly my kinda place, but it was occasionally entertaining. This particular night, out for a night of entertainment with two of my co-consultants on the assignment, I allowed them to drag me with them to a bar there in Birmingham. These guys were far more talented than I was as programmers, but I rocked at tech writing and training, so I was part of their team. Anyway, they were both in their thirties, making screamingly good money, full of hubris and ego and above all testosterone, and hot to trot. I was in my fifties, making as much money but with my testosterone levels somewhat brought into balance by the passage of time. I had gotten over being horny without an object some years back. Nowadays it really took the physical presence of an attractive (and real) woman to get my yang up and get me thinking about what it would be like to fuck her. These guys were younger, and more testosterone-impaired; they would have fucked mud, and even imaginary mud. So we walk into this bar, and it's just *full* of attractive, dressed-to-the-nines women. *Seriously* attractive women. They're hanging out in small herds, but the herds are clearly not so exclusive that guys feel reluctant to walk up and hit on them. And there is hittin' on going down all around us. Pretty much every guy in the bar -- including me -- gets hit on several times during the evening. My coworkers *loved* this place. They just couldn't *wait* to go back. They kept raving for days about the attractiveness of the women, and how hot they were. They even spoke about going back there and looking for a relationship, not just a one-night stand. I was flabbergasted. Speechless. It had taken me less than the minute after we walked in to nail this place as what it was, a Predator Bar. And the prey were the *guys*, not the gals. It was a no-brainer. Almost without exception, the guys in this bar were upscale, and made shitloads of money. Almost without exception, the hot women in this bar were not, and did not. They were there because they were from some...uh...lesser area of Detroit and they'd heard that rich men hung out in this bar. So they were there lookin' not for a one-night stand but for a husband. And it was not as if this was a lame strategy. From what I heard around town when in Birmingham, many of its current residents (the trophy wives) had met their future husbands at this bar. When I floated this idea of Predator Bar past my younger colleagues a few days later, they shook their heads and said, No way. They insisted that at all times during the evening we had spent there, *they* were the ones in charge, and that the hot women were coming onto them for no other reason than that *they* looked pretty hot that night, too. So I asked them, How much did each of you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Music Greats
Shania Twain - The Queen of Country Pop [image: Inline image 3] Honey, I'm Home - Live http://youtu.be/5fnZmdd35Uk Top Of The Pops Special 1999 http://youtu.be/sQg9LuI5vo4 You're Still The One - Video HD http://youtu.be/KNZH-emehxA I Ain't No Quitter - Video HD http://youtu.be/4G8bI17_AAc Shania Twain is a Canadian country pop singer-songwriter. Her 1995 album The Woman in Me brought her fame, and her 1997 album Come On Over became the best-selling studio album of all time by a female act in any genre and the best-selling country album of all time, selling over 40 million copies worldwide. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shania_Twain Come On Over In 1997 it became the best-selling country music album, and the best-selling studio album by a female act. [image: Inline image 2] Greatest Hits Greatest Hits finished 2005 as the highest selling country album in the U.S. The album contains 17 hits (18 on the International album) from her three Diamond albums The Woman in Me, Come on Over and Up! [image: Inline image 1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_Shania_Twainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_%28Shania_Twain_album%29 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Crystal Gayle [image: Inline image 2] Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue - The Midnight Special 1977 http://youtu.be/wHfInRrRGCI Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue HQ http://youtu.be/WOyixG_-38M Crystal Gayle became the first female artist in country music history to reach Platinum sales with her 1977 album, We Must Believe in Magic. Also famous for her nearly floor-length hair, she was voted one of the 50 most beautiful people in the world by People Magazine in 1983. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Gayle Too Many Lovers (Not enough love) http://youtu.be/W0EQlXG2q3s [image: Inline image 1] Crystal Gayle's Greatest Hits (1983) http://youtu.be/30b-UKwYCRE On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The B-52's [image: Inline image 2] This is a party and dance band from Athens, Georgia USA - they are fun and odd, but excellent musicians - all glory to the wild 1980's youth. They really rock! Fred Schneider - vocals, percussion, keyboards Kate Pierson - organ, bass, vocals Cindy Wilson - vocals, bongos, tambourine, guitar Keith Strickland - drums, guitars, synthesizers, various instruments Ricky Wilson - guitars Rock Lobster - Video 1978 http://youtu.be/n4QSYx4wVQg Love Shack - Video 1989 http://youtu.be/9SOryJvTAGs Good Stuff - Video 1992 http://youtu.be/xqfL6_6qEJY Channel Z - Video - From the Cosmic Thing album http://youtu.be/pB4G9WBYMFo Cosmic Thing - Full album 1989 http://youtu.be/j-VeUq8j6J8 [image: Inline image 1] Cosmic Thing - vinyl 33 1/2 RPM Tour Dates: http://www.ents24.com/uk/tour-dates/the-b-52s The B-52's: Rooted in new wave and 1960s rock and roll, the group later covered many genres ranging from post-punk to pop rock. The guy vs. gals vocals of Schneider, Pierson, and Wilson, sometimes used in call and response style (Strobe Light, Private Idaho, and Good Stuff), are a trademark. Presenting themselves as a positive, fun, enthusiastic, slightly oddball and goofy party band, the B-52's tell tall tales, glorify wild youth and celebrate sexy romance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_B-52http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_B-52%27s On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Joe South [image: Inline image 3] Rose Garden http://youtu.be/klHkXsalMDE Games People Play http://youtu.be/MAGyENr3_44 [image: Inline image 1] Joe South (February 28, 1940 – September 5, 2012) was an American singer-songwriter and guitarist. Best known for his songwriting, South won the Grammy Award for Song of the Year in 1970 for Games People Play and was again nominated for the award in 1972 for Rose Garden. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_South On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac is one of the greatest popular music bands of all time. We saw this performance of Fleetwood Mac on June 4, 2013 at the American Airlines Center in Dallas. [image: Inline image 3] This is just an AWESOME live performance by Fleetwood Mac - World Turning. This is one of the best live versions ever done of this song! We play this song from the CD version when we are demonstrating our high-end Yamaha stereo system in the barn. This version originally aired on April 8, 1976 on the The Midnight Special: World Turning - Live 1976 http://youtu.be/rcsYa6jFRoY Watch these other classic live performances: Go Your Own Way - 1997 - http://youtu.be/p8Ojjn35kP8 Rhiannon - Stevie Nicks 1976 http://youtu.be/wgmRb3MlpHQ Over My Head - Christine McVie http://youtu.be/U3p-AHX0ml0 [image: Inline image 4] Fleetwood Mac's second album
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?
On 1/27/2014 12:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */My Descartesian answer: I post obvious trollbait, and some people are so stupid and so attached as to get their hot buttons pushed by it and feel that they have to reply. :-) :-) :-) /* So, you just had to reply. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?
On 1/27/2014 1:58 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: */Now here is a man with a real direction in his life. Sit by the computer and decide how to post really important and thoughtful things on the internet. You're a real catch Bawyy./* You caught Barry again, good work Ann!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
And yet the people who run the university don't know where the missing kids are nor do they give a rat's ass - and you think these guys are worth supporting? What are you going to say to some of the families when the mom's and dad's come to FAirfield looking for their missing boys? Are you gonna tell 'em - Gee I dunno, but its all for a worthy cause supported by high minded individuals? On Mon, 1/27/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 6:21 PM Why? Benefit? Because when you look at the brain wave signatures of chanting the veda in sanskrit then the vedic chanting seems is a third technique along with TM and the TM-sidhis that demonstrates the global coherence of evident spirituality. So, when it was recently not possible to bring westerners to the front to meditate in a large enough group then it was an obvious solution to the deficit Dome numbers to augment the group numbers by outsourcing to the pundit group. That was paid for and sustained by generous donations of high-minded people. It is a very large altruistic project with complex logistics and people in it playing out. The intent is good and there are a lot of hands involved. It ain't over yet. Aside from all that, this is about modern science and cultivating spirituality. Vedic Science. Get over it. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I agree with what you say. I understand the attitude of the MUM folks not wanting to look for the missing pundits in training - its just like their attitude towards everyone else - if you aren't working for us, making money for us or giving us good free PR we don't give a crap about you. The thing I can't figure out is why they recruit the boys to start with. It takes some money to feed,m house and transport them to the US - the only money I know of are the ongoing solicitations from Hagelin and other TMO big shots to give money to bring the pundits over here, and I know they claim it takes a couple million to do that. But aside from that, I don't see how it benefits the TMO to keep recruiting the boys. On Mon, 1/27/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 4:47 PM I simply cannot wait to see how the TM and TMO apologists here deal with this, and try to make excuses for it. Items I'd like to see them deal with are highlighted in red below. Can you say We told you so? We did, many times here on FFL. You didn't listen. The most fascinating part for me is that because of the delayed payment scam, it is likely that the GCWP has ever paid out a single penny of the $150 per month payments promised to the parents of these runaway kids. And never will. That's a scheme that Maharishi himself would have been proud of thinking up. Maybe he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the plight or flight of these Vedic scholars
Re: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids
They probably are more concerned than Bevan and Company On Mon, 1/27/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 7:37 PM No, the NSA put out a memo to employees not to read my emails anymore after they found employees asleep at their desks trying read them. Besides they're more concerned about the alleged human trafficking at Vedic City. On 01/27/2014 10:16 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Yes! So they can be on the side of the winners!!! You do realize NSA is now going to spy on all your e-mail since you are posting stuff that is critical of them. That's why I am giving a pro-NSA answer so they will put me on a list of those not to be put against the wall. On Mon, 1/27/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] NSA Propaganda for kids To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 5:50 PM Check out the NSA's CryptoKids website. http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ Unbelievable. Want your kid working for the NSA?
[FairfieldLife] Minilogue -- a lovely video about creativity and making music
This may appeal more to Bhairitu and Doctordumbass and Card, who as I understand it all make music. But I think it will also appeal to anyone interested in the creative process, and what enables creativity to flow. In the 14-minute video, the two Swedish members of the electronic music group Minilogue walk you through their creative process and the environment in which they create it in the woods near Malmo. I think they do a really good job of it. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BHEAleNHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BHEAleNHs
[FairfieldLife] Invincible Europe Day!
Invitation to join INVINCIBLE EUROPE DAY Live Rudrabhishek Broadcast from MERU 1st February 2014 Creating Unity, Stability and Invincibility in the Nation and in Europe News and Inspiration Dear Governors, Sidhas and Meditators, You are warmly invited to participate in the Invincible Europe Day on Saturday, 1st February. Transcendental Meditation Centres throughout Europe will be participating in this event which will be held in conjunction with the monthly Ambassador Reception, broadcast live from Maharishi European Research University (MERU) in Vlodrop, Holland. The schedule and how to connect to the event are shown at the end of this announcement. People find the Invincible Europe Days/Ambassador Receptions to be very nourishing and inspiring occasions. They are becoming increasingly popular in countries all around Europe. It is a great opportunity to enjoy a very special day together with friends at your local Centre. You will be able to enjoy morning and evening group programme to generate extra coherence and harmony in the nation, and also experience the soothing recitation of Rudrabhishek (a powerful Maharishi Yagya for peace) performed live by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits. By silently listening to the recitations of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits, we can experience the waves of pure knowledge, unity and peace reverberating within ourselves. During the afternoon on these special days you can hear inspiring knowledge and news about the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and the groups of Yogic Flyers in Europe and the world – the golden keys Maharishi has given us to create Sat Yuga, Heaven on Earth, for the entire world for all generations to come. Please join us, and contact your local TM Centre for details of your local event. If you are unable to come to a TM Centre for this event, you may also join us from your home at the website mentioned below, for both the Rudrabhishek and the afternoon knowledge meeting. All our very best wishes, Jai Guru Dev Gunter Chassé Deputy Minister of Defence Global Country of World Peace
Re: [FairfieldLife] Essential Jazz
Charlie Byrd [image: Inline image 2] Desafinado with Stan Getz 1962 http://youtu.be/991uASejkY8 Desafinado - Long version Stereo http://youtu.be/L7lmMNweUVU Byrd played finger-style on a classical guitar. One time there was a guy up on the roof of a building getting ready to jump off and commit suicide. A passing beatnik saw the guy and called out: Remember Byrd! The guy said: Bird who? Go ahead,jump! LoL! Byrd was best known for his association with Brazilian music, especially bossa nova. In 1962, Byrd collaborated with Stan Getz on the album Jazz Samba, a recording which brought bossa nova into the mainstream of North American music. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Byrd The Desafinado single was a Top 20 hit in 1962; however, with it you hear only about one-third of the complete track. Here's the entire piece, and in the best quality stereo available. One of the greatest jazz hits ever. - YouTube review [image: Inline image 1] Jazz Samba - Full Verve Album http://youtu.be/Oc2SffeDg1g On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Herbie Mann [image: Inline image 2] Comin' Home Baby - Live at the Village Gate, 1961 http://youtu.be/jiCV4Xna684 Wailing Dervishes http://youtu.be/M0mcII-mE4g [image: Inline image 1] Live at the Village Gate: Herbie Mann - Flute Hagood Hardy - Vibraharp Ahmad Abdul-Malik , Ben Tucker - Bass Rudy Collins - Drums Ray Mantilla - Conga Drums, Percussion Chief Bey - African Drum, Percussion Herbie Mann, was an American jazz flautist and important early practitioner of world music. Mann emphasized the groove approach in his music. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Mann On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Charles Mingus Jr. [image: Inline image 1] Better Get Hit in Yo' Soul - Track One, from the album Mingus Ah Um - Vinyl http://www.youtube.com/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROZ2V6KLsLgfeature=sharelist=PLsl3WjKkzBEfEwpMSbLpwr4vPupPQTJ0x [image: Inline image 2] Sue's Changes - Live At Montreux, 1975 http://youtu.be/jOWNkZrkLfk Charles Mingus Jr. was a highly influential American jazz double bassist, composer and bandleader. Mingus's compositions retained the hot and soulful feel of hard bop and drew heavily from black gospel music while sometimes drawing on elements of Third Stream, free jazz, and classical music. Yet Mingus avoided categorization, forging his own brand of music that fused tradition with unique and unexplored realms of jazz. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Mingus On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Good point, but I don't get into the personalities of any of these guys very much. Lots of jazz players were really screwed up on drugs and some had questionable ethical behavior as well. Most of the time I just listen to the music and enjoy. For me, it's not about the personalities, it's all about the music. Thanks for the reply. On 12/18/2013 9:32 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, Stan Gets was a great tenor sax player. His solos were exquisite and creative. But one of his friends called him a nice bunch of guys, apparently referring to his unpredictable personality quirks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Invincible Europe Day!
I reckon they never did this here yagya at MUM, otherwise them missing pundit boys would-a been so peaceful they wouldn't-a had enough energy to hop the fence. the soothing recitation of Rudrabhishek (a powerful Maharishi Yagya for peace) performed live by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits. By silently listening to the recitations of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits, we can experience the waves of pure knowledge, unity and peace reverberating within ourselves. On Mon, 1/27/14, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Invincible Europe Day! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 9:08 PM Invitation to join INVINCIBLE EUROPE DAY Live Rudrabhishek Broadcast from MERU 1st February 2014 Creating Unity, Stability and Invincibility in the Nation and in Europe News and Inspiration Dear Governors, Sidhas and Meditators, You are warmly invited to participate in the Invincible Europe Day on Saturday, 1st February. Transcendental Meditation Centres throughout Europe will be participating in this event which will be held in conjunction with the monthly Ambassador Reception, broadcast live from Maharishi European Research University (MERU) in Vlodrop, Holland. The schedule and how to connect to the event are shown at the end of this announcement. People find the Invincible Europe Days/Ambassador Receptions to be very nourishing and inspiring occasions. They are becoming increasingly popular in countries all around Europe. It is a great opportunity to enjoy a very special day together with friends at your local Centre. You will be able to enjoy morning and evening group programme to generate extra coherence and harmony in the nation, and also experience the soothing recitation of Rudrabhishek (a powerful Maharishi Yagya for peace) performed live by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits. By silently listening to the recitations of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits, we can experience the waves of pure knowledge, unity and peace reverberating within ourselves. During the afternoon on these special days you can hear inspiring knowledge and news about the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and the groups of Yogic Flyers in Europe and the world – the golden keys Maharishi has given us to create Sat Yuga, Heaven on Earth, for the entire world for all generations to come. Please join us, and contact your local TM Centre for details of your local event. If you are unable to come to a TM Centre for this event, you may also join us from your home at the website mentioned below, for both the Rudrabhishek and the afternoon knowledge meeting. All our very best wishes, Jai Guru Dev Gunter Chassé Deputy Minister of Defence Global Country of World Peace
Re: [FairfieldLife] Minilogue -- a lovely video about creativity and making music
that is great, thanks for posting it On Mon, 1/27/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Minilogue -- a lovely video about creativity and making music To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 8:42 PM This may appeal more to Bhairitu and Doctordumbass and Card, who as I understand it all make music. But I think it will also appeal to anyone interested in the creative process, and what enables creativity to flow. In the 14-minute video, the two Swedish members of the electronic music group Minilogue walk you through their creative process and the environment in which they create it in the woods near Malmo. I think they do a really good job of it. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BHEAleNHs
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Well, you know, Little Stevie, if I thought you were actually referring to something real, I'd ask you for specific examples. But I know you don't do examples when you make accusations. This is always your first maneuver Judy, I want an example, as if we really need an example of Robin switching from irony to seriousness, and often blurring the line between. Of course, you perhaps, in singularity, always knew when Robin was doing one or the other. Honestly, I thought you two made a cute couple. Did I exaggerate that you would decide which card to play after the fact, when sparring with others? Actually, I don't think so. So instead I'll just chuckle at your attempt to suggest that evil old Xeno was hoping to trick his readers into taking him seriously, rather than simply acknowledging that you and Share fucked up (Share because no opportunity for her to make a post, relevant or otherwise, is to be passed up, and you because Share must AT ALL COSTS be protected from her own helplessness). Like who really cares if we misinterpreted what he meant? I mean, this may be a big issue for you. It may be cause for you to roll out your opsie macro, or even possibly your rly, ry stooopid comment. Glad to see we didn't reach that threshold...yet. That's sort of like an apple a day for you. This was one of your more elaborate and imaginative evasions of accountability, Little Stevie. And believe me, Share is so appreciative. In any case, put an asterisk beside it; you may be able to adapt it for future use. Well, I hope the rest of your day, or evening can be spent in other fruitful endeavors. You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
You know, who knows, and really, who cares? So, I fell for it. Wouldn't be the first time. I got a few fun posts out of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, not right away, but later I wondered if Xeno was playing off the whole jargon topic. I love his dry delivery but often don't get it immediately. Probably MY senior moment (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 7:24 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak
[FairfieldLife] Father of morbid obesity in the US of A?
http://www.alternet.org/story/155932/the_history_of_supersizing%3A_how_we%27ve_become_a_nation_hooked_on_bigger_is_better http://www.alternet.org/story/155932/the_history_of_supersizing%3A_how_we%27ve_become_a_nation_hooked_on_bigger_is_better If I got it right, the obesity of Americans costs some 475 bucks a year per every US citizen...??
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
In case you are worried about what is going to become of the younger generation, it is going to grow up and start worrying about the younger generation. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.- Will Rogers On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On 1/7/2014 6:01 PM, Richard Williams wrote: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt and a leaky tire. - Will Rogers
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today
Today we went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] They have a good cheese selection: [image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 3] On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: We went to this place yesterday - they have some boots for sale. That's a whole lotta shit stompers in one place. I prefer shopping in smaller, boutique-y stores though. I always have people coming into my strictly English tack store asking where to buy cowboy boots because Victoria doesn't have anywhere that sells them. Next time I'll send them to Texas. [image: Inline image 1] Cavender's Boot City [image: Inline image 2] Tony Lama, Justin, Lucchese, Laredo On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: Today, we went to this place: [image: Inline image 2] On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: * I read through this post, bemused by it, but I didn't notice until I'd gotten almost all the way to the end of it that part of my mind was still saying, What's a car? :-)* You probably don't even need a car over there - in fact, it would be a problem. Over, here a car is just another tool for most people. Without one, I'd be dead in the water. Some people who are rich probably drive cars just for fun and pleasure, like my neighbor, who doesn't drive these cars much - there just for shows. I inherited the Eldorado from Mom. She bought it new off the show room floor and it's been garaged it's whole life. She still had a driver's license at age 86, but hadn't driven in about ten years. So, one day I just took it - I'm using it for highway driving. I put some new tires on it and a new disc brakes. You can't get anything these days for a car like that - maybe $1500. The AC still works and it has cruise control. Also, it has a kick-ass Delco Bose sound system with CD player inside. Sweet! [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: noozguru et al, small country, flat land. And no snow or ice on the roads and bike paths! *Ahem. Only pussies leave their bikes at home when it snows. * * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ* On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Small country, flat land. On 12/29/2013 07:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Uh oh. I think I've achieved one of those milestones along the path to You know you're in danger of becoming Dutch when... consciousness. I read through this post, bemused by it, but I didn't notice until I'd gotten almost all the way to the end of it that part of my mind was still saying, What's a car? :-) http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/09/learning-from-the-netherlands-about-bikes/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
The why? The Pundit program? Chanting is the third technique promulgated. Because when you look at the brain wave signatures of chanting the veda in sanskrit then the vedic chanting seems is a third technique along with TM and the TM-sidhis that demonstrates the global coherence of evident spirituality. .. . she remembers when Sanskrit was first introduced in to the Maharishi School for learning. She remembers it back to 1996. Everyone started with the sanskrit alphabet at school assemblies together. Faculty too. It was new then. Before that they could take French as a language. She was saying the college bound kids were alarmed at the change. After some semesters, like when she was a senior they would have sanskrit classes where they just chanted the vedic literature. And may be have discussions about the content of the literature. But it was mostly not about conjugation of verbs and such. It was centrally about chanting the sound value [in the physiology] of pronouncing the sanskrit. The Pundit program? Why? Benefit? Because when you look at the brain wave signatures of chanting the veda in sanskrit then the vedic chanting seems is a third technique along with TM and the TM-sidhis that demonstrates the global coherence of evident spirituality. Pundits in Vedic City?So, when it was recently not possible to bring westerners to the front to meditate in a large enough group then it was an obvious solution to the deficit Dome numbers to augment the group numbers by outsourcing with the pundit group. That was paid for and sustained by generous donations of high-minded people. It is a very large altruistic project with complex logistics and people in it playing out. The intent is good and there are a lot of hands involved. It ain't over yet. Aside from all that, this is about modern science and cultivating spirituality. Vedic Science. Get over it. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I agree with what you say. I understand the attitude of the MUM folks not wanting to look for the missing pundits in training - its just like their attitude towards everyone else - if you aren't working for us, making money for us or giving us good free PR we don't give a crap about you. The thing I can't figure out is why they recruit the boys to start with. It takes some money to feed,m house and transport them to the US - the only money I know of are the ongoing solicitations from Hagelin and other TMO big shots to give money to bring the pundits over here, and I know they claim it takes a couple million to do that. But aside from that, I don't see how it benefits the TMO to keep recruiting the boys. On Mon, 1/27/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 27, 2014, 4:47 PM I simply cannot wait to see how the TM and TMO apologists here deal with this, and try to make excuses for it. Items I'd like to see them deal with are highlighted in red below. Can you say We told you so? We did, many times here on FFL. You didn't listen. The most fascinating part for me is that because of the delayed payment scam, it is likely that the GCWP has ever paid out a single penny of the $150 per month payments promised to the parents of these runaway kids. And never will. That's a scheme that Maharishi himself would have been proud of thinking up. Maybe he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This is the full article from Hi India - more detailed than the al jazerra snipett - sordid stuff on the part of the TMO if true: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US, reports Hi India IANS Chicago, January 26, 2014 | UPDATED 16:36 IST In a shocking revelation, as many as 163 Indians, most of them brought to the US as teenagers from villages in northern India to be trained into Vedic Pandits by two institutions set up by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of transcendental meditation fame, appear to have gone missing over the last 12 months. Of the 1,050 young Indians brought to the Maharishi Vedic City and the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, 163 - some of them just 19 years old - have gone missing in the last one year, Hi India, a Chicago-based weekly newspaper for the Indian community, reported in its latest issue. Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. According to the report, the management running these places did not even care to trace the missing people. Even the Global Country of World Peace (GCWP), one of the many teaching centres set up by the India-born spiritual guru, does not know about the
[FairfieldLife] RE: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
Dr Girish Varma speaking on the Maharishi Vedic Pandit program in the Brahmasthan of India http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVRHbbWrjWAlist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5hfeature=c4-overview-vl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVRHbbWrjWAlist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5hfeature=c4-overview-vl Special video on the training and life of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VqiaQaG4uIfeature=c4-overview-vllist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5h http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VqiaQaG4uIfeature=c4-overview-vllist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5h Are you one of the many of you who are donating $240 or $120 per month, enough to take care of one Pandit for the whole year (or half that amount); Or are you one of the some who even committed to 11, 7 or 5 Pandits; or are donating $10 or $20 per month —?
[FairfieldLife] RE: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html Girish Chandra Varma owns only 7000 crore worth of property. (7000 crore rupees or 1.5 Billion US ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUxM0gZ789I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUxM0gZ789I BTW MMY never wanted him to own for a reason. Girish Chandra Varma manipulated a stern NO by MMY into a spiritual yes--but that another quite uncomfortable shameful story. You may wonder if the Court which extended judicial remand already 'till January 29 will further extend since complaint of land grab has been filed against him and it may seems more to come. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Land-grab-complaint-against-Girish-Varma/articleshow/29197625.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Land-grab-complaint-against-Girish-Varma/articleshow/29197625.cms You may wonder if these news about Vedic pandits are the conspiracy G.V. is talking about. Here his speech to the press in front of the prison(sorry only in Hindi available but you may compare the tone of voice and facial expression with the other clips) 00xx33 And since you wanted to know who has taken his place 0 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Dr Girish Varma speaking on the Maharishi Vedic Pandit program in the Brahmasthan of India http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVRHbbWrjWAlist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5hfeature=c4-overview-vl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVRHbbWrjWAlist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5hfeature=c4-overview-vl Special video on the training and life of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VqiaQaG4uIfeature=c4-overview-vllist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5h http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VqiaQaG4uIfeature=c4-overview-vllist=PLd2VIS0aIdONJq2RjU_qST4HUUjzbsL5h Are you one of the many of you who are donating $240 or $120 per month, enough to take care of one Pandit for the whole year (or half that amount); Or are you one of the some who even committed to 11, 7 or 5 Pandits; or are donating $10 or $20 per month —?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Minilogue -- a lovely video about creativity and making music
Very cool - Thanks! I run into many of those same challenges, working with samples. And sometimes, no matter how badly I want a song to work, it is lipstick on a pig. Also run into the situation where several years after a composition, I'll listen to it with fresh ears and change my opinion of it, radically, one way or another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: This may appeal more to Bhairitu and Doctordumbass and Card, who as I understand it all make music. But I think it will also appeal to anyone interested in the creative process, and what enables creativity to flow. In the 14-minute video, the two Swedish members of the electronic music group Minilogue walk you through their creative process and the environment in which they create it in the woods near Malmo. I think they do a really good job of it. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BHEAleNHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BHEAleNHs
[FairfieldLife] RE: Venture Capitalist Says War on the Rich Is Like Nazi Germany's War on the Jews
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” ― H.L. Mencken
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?
Re Question of the day: how do you know you exist?: This is elementary. I know I exist. That is only thing of which I am *absolutely* certain. What I can't be certain of is that *you* exist. In an act of condescension on my part I am prepared to accept that you *probably* do exist - at least as phenomena appearing within my consciousness. I am presently witnessing messages appearing on my laptop that purport to come from an entity called Bhairitu. But all I can know of Bhairitu is a sequence of typed sentences on my screen. There is no awareness in Bhairitu I can access. All the awareness I am ever conscious of is my very own - Seraphita's - awareness. And that awareness - that consciousness - is the only sentience I will *ever* have direct cognizance of in the universe I inhabit - the universe that is centred on me. I can embrace a lover and exchange the most tender, the most intimate sentiments, but the bald fact remains that my consciousness is the only consciousness I will ever know. To allocate awareness to Bhairitu or to a lover is always an act of projection of my own consciousness. I am trapped in my own universe with me as the centre. But is this a solipsistic nightmare? No, because Bhairitu's awareness is not a something *behind* his appearance - his face - (as everyone assumes) it exists in *front* of his appearance and is identical with my own awareness of him - or my lover or anyone else. Because our awareness is the One Self being aware of itself behind a multitude of apparent separate identities. This is Advaita-Vedanta 101.
[FairfieldLife] Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US: report | NDTV.com
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/vedic-pandits-go-missing-in-us-report-4756 43?site=classic
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the gods Exist?
Coming back to Barry's post: 'I've seen a number of people have strong experiences of being enlightenment, and then afterwards back off and run away from any sadhana (spiritual practice, such as meditation) that would make being enlightenment come back. : Doesn't that apply to your Rama? I'd never hear of Rama till I encountered FFL but the fact that he was heavily into tranquillisers suggests he was suffering from acute anxiety. Why so? Because he was unable to integrate his own spiritual experiences. (I also see that Rama told his female followers that having sex with him would elevate them to a higher plane of consciousness. Are there really women that fall for that lame chat-up line?) This broadens out into a wider debate on Egomaniac Godmen who had experienced selflessness. Why were so many of them such irritating self-centred arseholes? I don't doubt that some of them - Muktanada and Osho, for example - had genuine experiences of loss of ego identity. But I've had such experiences (only short-lived) and although I had no way of piecing together my lost identity my character habits (my karma?) were still functioning. It did strike me then that genuine spiritual transformation would have to uproot those character habits - perhaps by spending two years cleaning the latrines in a leper colony. I suspect that people like Osho, Chögyam Trungpa, Muktanada and Rama had that ego-loss thing and falsely assumed it was the full enlightenment blow-out and so never realised what self-centred sods they remained. I mean, take Osho's collection of Rolls-Royces: he wanted to have the largest collection in the world. How childish is that? Imagine that an authentic first-century manuscript was uncovered in the Vatican archives that proved Jesus of Nazareth had ten gold-plated chariots and was hoping to add to that collection to out-number the total of the Roman Emperor? Christianity would be finished as a world religion the very next day. Osho's acolytyes came up with some baloney about his mania being a subversive attack on materialism - does anyone still believe that self-serving crap? There's something horribly self-centred about the whole new-age trip that gives it that superficial, delusional character. The trouble is Christianity's emphasis on obedience and humility seems to go too far in the opposite direction so we're still looking for a genuine route out of the dominant materialist paradigm.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Vedic Pandits go 'missing' in US: report | NDTV.com
Both the Vedic city and the university are owned by the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's family. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/vedic-pandits-go-missing-in-us-report-475643?site=classic http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/vedic-pandits-go-missing-in-us-report-475643?site=classic
[FairfieldLife] RE: The New Maharishi Effect: 10% Missing Pundits
Thanks for the link. Finally something rises out of the fourth estate to shed some light on TM India. The article in Al Jaseera it seems was some journalism probing for substance too. Truth should be able to hold up to that. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the gods Exist?
Re In scientific terms, it could be that the electron inside the retina is in sync with the electrons in my my brain. Thus, my mind was able to see the pattern. It could be due to quantum entanglement, which is the best scientific term that I can think of.: The latest thinking in quantum mechanics is that there is only ONE electron in existence! How that can be the case is beyond my simple mind but it tallies nicely with what you're saying. By the way: when I said that we are at root a one-celled creature that knows how to split and grow, I should also have mentioned that what else we are expert at is growing a pair of lungs, growing a heart, a nervous system, a liver, sexual organs, and what-have-you. We're walking miracles but as that know-how is unconscious instead we like to brag about the fact we have an MA from Harvard - which is chicken shit compared to our innate abilities. Spirtitual practices (and drugs) can bring those innate abilities into conscious awareness. There's a school of thinking that embraces New Thought, Christian Science and similar systems which claims that we only become sick because of faulty thinking. I suspect their intuition is spot on. There mistake is to imagine that one can think one's way out of illness. You have to access that deepest strata of our being to effect changes. (Knowledge is structured in consciousness.) There are plenty of anecdotal stories about those who have take psychedelics or practised TM or other spiritual disciplines who have had spontaneous remissions of serious maladies. It could well be that they accessed those deeper strata which knew instinctively what to do. The whole field needs to be investigated by hard-nosed scientists but there aren't many prepared to tackle the legal obstacles in the way of serious research.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?
Well, there is existence, at least there seems to be. It is a question of whether there is any ownership involved. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Question of the day: how do you know you exist?: This is elementary. I know I exist. That is only thing of which I am *absolutely* certain. What I can't be certain of is that *you* exist. In an act of condescension on my part I am prepared to accept that you *probably* do exist - at least as phenomena appearing within my consciousness. I am presently witnessing messages appearing on my laptop that purport to come from an entity called Bhairitu. But all I can know of Bhairitu is a sequence of typed sentences on my screen. There is no awareness in Bhairitu I can access. All the awareness I am ever conscious of is my very own - Seraphita's - awareness. And that awareness - that consciousness - is the only sentience I will *ever* have direct cognizance of in the universe I inhabit - the universe that is centred on me. I can embrace a lover and exchange the most tender, the most intimate sentiments, but the bald fact remains that my consciousness is the only consciousness I will ever know. To allocate awareness to Bhairitu or to a lover is always an act of projection of my own consciousness. I am trapped in my own universe with me as the centre. But is this a solipsistic nightmare? No, because Bhairitu's awareness is not a something *behind* his appearance - his face - (as everyone assumes) it exists in *front* of his appearance and is identical with my own awareness of him - or my lover or anyone else. Because our awareness is the One Self being aware of itself behind a multitude of apparent separate identities. This is Advaita-Vedanta 101.
