[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
They all speak mostly about the methodologies. Yes, Adyashanti is the only person who seems to have spoken about the actual experience. --- fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, they do - Ramana, and MMY and Brahmananda Saraswati, and Adyashanti, all of those guys do it and talk about it, and write books - else we wouldn't have any examples. None of the characteristics of enlightenment are a secret, or something everyone dreams up independently. As for all of the above, being frauds and deluded, yeah it does look that way, from a certain perspective. If a person is culturally brainwashed, or feeble minded, or mentally unbalanced, any of those, then the people listed above seem like frauds and deluded. As for me having a long way to go, yes, it is a big place. --- jedi_spock@... wrote : --- fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : All the enlightened people talk about their experiences, No, they don't. like I am permanently established in silence, every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing. Why do you want me to repeat it? The enlightened people have been talking and writing about these things forever. They are all frauds or deluded. Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts. I didn't get what was so special about the story. And this other guy, going around telling people they are enlightened, anointing them like a pope. Maharishi declared that Robin was E. The whole thing is crazy. Just as enlightenment is self-evident, attempts to do anything more than describe it, live it, or achieve it, seem counter-productive, to me. You still have a long way to go. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Let's pretend I read this. What are the reasons that this statement you made to Barry does not apply to you, or say to me? Exactly how does one experientially and empirically parse the statement 'I am enlightened (or not)' versus, say, 'he is enlightened (or not). What is the criterion or criteria for making such a judgement? What is the ability developed in you that allows you to do this? How do you avoid making a mistake about it? How does this apply to techniques and teachings of other teachers, who also make the claim of enlightenment? How do you make a judgement concerning those teachers and their students, who may use different methods and have a different explanatory context? Maharishi said 'there is nothing new under the sun' and so, what is it about enlightenment that is different from what came before? Did he lie? Did he tell the truth? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From anyone here who has said that they are enlightened, I haven't seen any unraveling. The reason being that if anyone achieves spiritual liberation using the techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, they know the difference between true spiritual freedom and delusion. I am not sure you do, though. You are one of the strongest mood makers on here, and for someone in the game so long, you have almost nothing to show for it. PS Let's pretend you didn't read this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)
You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact. These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out of this. --- jr_esq@... wrote : Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and stronghold. However, it's another scenario in Syria itself. At this time, I would assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons. If they don't, the so-called friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded. The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away. They can pick out enemy combatants.
[FairfieldLife] Refined perception with Transcendental Meditation
Refined perception with Transcendental Meditation Glory of Nature fully enjoyed! https://www.facebook.com/TM.UK.Women/app_128953167177144 View on www.pinterest.com Preview by Yahoo http://www.pinterest.com/pin/20477373281021175/
[FairfieldLife] Pope Francis considers 'live in' relationships as sin
Pope Francis considers 'live in' relationships as sin. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11095318/ Pope-marries-couples-living-in-sin-in-Vatican-ceremony.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11095318/Pope-marries-couples-living-in-sin-in-Vatican-ceremony.html The Hindu law describes -- not prescribes -- eight types of marriages including Gandharva Vivaha. Of these, only four types, namely, Brahmana (giving the girl to an educated bridegroom without dowry), Daiva (giving the girl to a priest during the performance of religious ceremony), Arsha (giving the girl after receiving dowry from the bridegroom) Prajapathya (giving the girl with respect and blessing, without dowry, the groom applies for the hand of the bride) were considered proper for all. The other four, Gandharva (Union of man and woman out of mutual love and consent, independently on their own), Asurika (marrying a girl against her will, by giving wealth to her family and kinsmen), Rakshasa (abducting a girl and marrying her forcibly) Pisacha (stealthily seducing a sleeping, intoxicated or mentally ill girl) were regarded as improper for all. According to shastras, noble marriages had no monetary or business transactions. In Islam, Nikāḥ al-Mutʿah is a type of marriage used in Twelver Shia Islam, where the duration of the marriage and the dowry must be specified and agreed upon in advance. It is a private contract made in a verbal or written format. At the end of the contract, the marriage ends and the wife must undergo iddah (a period of abstinence from sexual intercourse, usually the length of two menstrual cycles). The iddah is intended to give certain paternity to a child should the wife become pregnant during the contract.
[FairfieldLife] Doyle on Scientific Research on Ectoplasm - Part 2
The Half-Way House of Matter by Arthur Conan Doyle (1930) Part 2 The production of this strange ectoplasm is enough in itself to make such experiments revolutionary and epoch-making, but what follows is far stranger, and will answer the question in every reader's mind, What has all this to do with spirits? You must know, then, utterly incredible as it may appear, that this substance, after forming, begins in the case of some mediums, Eva being one, to curdle into definite shapes, and those shapes are human limbs and human faces, seen at first in two dimensions upon the flat, and then moulding themselves at the edges until they become detached and complete. Very many of the photographs exhibit these strange phantoms, which are often much smaller than life. Some of these faces may represent thought-forms from the brain of Eva taking visible form, and some rough resemblance has been traced between some of them and pictures which she may have seen and stored in the memory. One, for example, looks like an extremely rakish President Wilson with a moustache, while another resembles a ferocious rendering of M. Poincaré. One of them shows the word Miroir printed over the head of the medium, which some critics have claimed as showing that she had smuggled in the journal of that name, though what the object of such a proceeding could be has not been explained. Her own explanation was that the controlling forces had in some way, possibly by apport, brought in the word in order to convey the idea that these faces and figures are not their real selves, but their selves as seen in a mirror. Even now the reader may see no obvious connection with Spiritualism, but the next stage takes us all the way. When Eva is at her best, and it occurs only at long intervals and at some cost to her own health, there forms a complete figure; this figure is moulded to resemble some deceased person, the cord which binds it to the medium is loosened, a personality which either is or pretends to be that of the dead takes possession of it, and the breath of life is breathed into the image so that it moves and talks and expresses the emotions of the spirit within. The last word of the Bisson record is: Since these séances and on numerous occasions the entire phantom has shown itself, it has come out of the cabinet, has begun to speak, and has reached Mme. Bisson, whom it has embraced on the cheek. The sound of the kiss was audible. Was there ever a stranger finale of a scientific investigation? It may serve to illustrate how impossible it is for even the cleverest of materialists to find any explanation of such facts which are consistent with his theories, that the only one which Mr. Joseph MacCabe, in his public debate with me, could put forward was that it was a case of the regurgitation of food! He seemed to me unaware that a close-meshed veil was worn over the medium's face in some of the experiments without in the least hampering the flow of the ectoplasm. These results, though checked in all possible ways, were none the less so amazing that the inquirer had a right to suspend judgment until they are confirmed. But this has been fully done. Dr. Schrenck-Notzing returned to Munich and there he was fortunate enough to find another medium, a Polish lady, who possessed the faculty of materialization. With her he conducted a series of experiments which he has recorded in his book, Materialization-phénomène. Working with Stanislawa, the Polish medium, and adopting the same strict methods as with Eva, he produced exactly the same results. His hook overlaps that of Mme. Bisson, since he gives an account of the Paris experiments, but the most important part is the corroboration furnished by his check experiments in the summer of 1912 in Munich. The various photographs of the ectoplasm so far as they go are hardly to be distinguished from those already taken, so that any theory of elaborate fraud upon the part of Eva postulates the same fraud on the part of Stanislawa. Many German observers checked the sittings. In his thorough Teutonic fashion Schrenck-Notzing goes deeper into the matter than Mme. Bisson. He obtained hair from one of the materialized forms and compared it microscopically with hair from Eva (this incident occurred in the French series), showing by several tests that it could not be from the same person. He gave also the chemical result of an examination of a small portion of ectoplasm, which burned to an ash, leaving a smell as of horn. Chloride of soda (common salt) and phosphate of calcium were amongst the constituents. Finally, he actually obtained a cinematograph record of the ectoplasm pouring from the mouth of the medium. Part of this is reproduced in his book. It should be explained that though the medium was in a trance during these experiments she was by no means inanimate. A separate personality seemed to possess her, which might be explained as one of her
[FairfieldLife] New York Wins Miss America
just showing some hometown pride. Please join me in congratulating Kira Kazantsev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daveyoung - a couple of things that may help
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yeah, Dan, the below could be useful suggestions. While I allow myself to be outrageously over the top here when I spew negativity, I'M A WRITER after all, in real life, no, not meI don't do that, cuz that's the way to get a punch in the nose. I AM A COWARD by quite a few metrics even though I've had tons of times I had to step up to plates for the kids, marriage, movement etc. I have yelled from the back of political ralliesand that's maybe the height of my public bristling. After my last most seriously PTSD causing event, 13 yrs ago, it took me a solid five years of learning to not just wallow in righteous indignation, and instead, recognize my idiosyncratic tells of when I was going over the precipice of a slippery slope. Once I could see it coming, I could divert the mind instead of dwelling in a tawdry mental indulgence that could only harden the pathways in the nervous system -- that is: make it easier to fall into negativity once again. See?it was no fun being angry, but, geeze, it took me a long time to give up the habitlike booze...it had it's deliciousness, ya know? No, I don't drink or have any prescriptions for anxiety etc. Diversions are: my relationship with my babe, family, trikking, reading, writing, media, Advaita reading, etc. And on Facebook I am a posting fool -- sharing the neat stuff I find -- and allowing myself to openly hate the psychopublicans while gnashing my teeth about Obama's selling out. I have gone over some inner dark horizon now and then, sure, but it's very rare. But when I do, even then I can use last resort techniques like psychodrama -- that is, riding the emotions but with reins on the nightmare being ridden. It's fun to scream into the night sometimes, just sayin' -- not that it's all that therapeutic. A therapist, um Cynthia Fox?, had me hitting a punching bag while screaming out my complaints...and what were the results? -- sore arms and bruised knuckles. I can get triggered and be instantly into a huge surge of negativity. Yep, it can happen. So far, no fist fights, but there's a few bike riders out there who snarked at my beast enough for me to unload with a Dune Class Bene Gesserit VOICE on them...that is, I yelled at them. And it could've gone south. So there's that, and it is exactly that that TM was, to my mind, going to naturally dissolve. It didn't...obviously. And by the way, Willy reposted some of my raging on his ass, and I think it's dang fine writing. I can't remember writing most of my stuff, and almost never reread, so when I do, it's like, hey, this guy's a good writer! So THANK YOU WILLY FOR THE SELF ESTEEM MOMENT. I love my shit. So, see? I am very seldom actually having a negative emotion. Even during my writing about Willy etcI'm having the most savory narcissistic wickedness and outright CACKLING with my cleverness. Not that I'm aloof all the time. Nabby got to me the other day, you'll note, but I let loose on that response and, yes, I was having actual anger, but by the time the piece was written, I'd was in a joyous mood from all the great blurbs that had come from the inspiration. SO THANK YOU NABBY! Poke me again you wonderful shitblast me from your special perch. Get me out of bed in the morning! I've posted so much here in the last few days...just cuz of some spotlights on my egosee how I'm slurping up the attention? Gotta pull back on this horsey! Ha ha! You are a good writer. Probably the best we've had here, not that I've been here long. Annie, You read all this? What does it say. In as few words as possible. Life's short. And there's lots to do. Can I use the last 3 lines to enter the Tokyo Haiku Contest? I love prizes. First, you can enter the haiku contest, but only if it's because you don't want to show Edg up; keep your competitive motives pure. Second, what his post says to me goes past his facility with words. What I like most about it is that, at the risk of sounding like RWC, it is REAL. The guy doesn't seem afraid to let us see what he feels inside and out. I don't know him at all. Everyone else here seems to have had a history with Edg. What I do know is that he scares me sometimes with his ferocity but he has been explaining what that is - another personal revelation. But the man can wield the words and I love that. To have the dexterity to move it around like he does goes beyond the verbal. The coolest part is that for such a scary guy he lets the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 15-Sep-14 00:15:09 UTC
And this is with me at the beach! Using Chrome in this beachy Chromebook that REALLY SCREWS the page display of FFL. Just wait for a rainy day. I'll kill it! Not from NYC but still in-touch Computers are amazing how you can leave home and still remain in touch They ought to do that with telephones. e hampton dan
[FairfieldLife] Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
204th Anniversary of Mexico's Independence! It's interesting here in e hampton. The place has become a real draw for people in Latin America. Muck like some spots in Cali. I loved the film A Day Without Mexicans fleety - i watched a dvd last night filmed in Chico and the lake. No plot to get in the way. Plot distractions are a pain when the scenery and cast are so amazingly beautiful. Spoiler Alert - lovely actress [plays a character longing for Bend, Oregon. I LOVE BEND. These's a beautiful family farm, where they are so sweet, and they keep goats. Well it turns out that this is very practical. Goat milk is great for bathing. Goat soap for washing. Goat lotion for moisturizing. I'll send some to Ann if she'd like. So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
Nice post, as usual Edg. There is nothing like a good challenge, and you give us plenty. Nothing like being kept on..edge, like you do to us here. As I get older, I find in some ways, I'm feeling more messed up, and is some ways feel like I'm figuring things out, at least on the spiritual side. Thanks for your latest run of posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
Xeno, Thank you for this reply. I find very little to take issue with, and quite a few of the lines, made me smile, , so thank you for that. There are things you've brought up, that I am going to mull over. (that's how I do things) Thank you again for a perspective I had not considered! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Like a big so what I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment. A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for you. Again, with the story below, a big so what I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the enlightenment game, the spiritual game still comes with all the same caveats as life. Keep your eyes open, and bove all, take responsibility for your own life, material and spirtitual. It's not complicated. Oh, you're welcome. (-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome punditster writes: danfriedman2002 wrote: just checking... If I reply to every one of Richard's Posts, and then arbitrarily pick to reply to a few other people's posts, and start some old Topics, and then just hit reply without writing anything... ..do I win? Strategy check for mid-point assessment. Answer and question simultaneously: If you 'win' does everyone else lose? Ann, You tryin' Zen or some Aidvaita to play wit my head? Sos the answer to your koan is that We All Win We are all One, but APPEAR to be differrent. I know that, so when I WIN, we ALL Win. But, just in case I'm wrong. We can All Win because of my win, but I remain Champion of the ONE TEAM There are six FFL informants who are over the weekly posting limits, according to Rick's old limit. Since there are no posting limits now, all those under 50 messages are to be considered non-social - who can't even carry on a conversation exceeding 100 words per topic in a twelve hour period. Go figure. Any other things I should Post about? Anyone? Where We Went What We Did Today What People Think What People Wear What People Eat Where People Go What People Don't Think Where People Live What People Are Doing What People Want I'm sticking with the highlighted one for now. Why did you choose that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
The point I have been making since it first came up many years ago, was that enlightenment is achievable, by ordinary householder types, like me. This was in great doubt several years ago, but is now being more commonly accepted. I have never tried to be a teacher on here. I say what I say. There is no lesson plan, no agenda, and no interest in anything but conversation. In other words, this was never about me. However I do enjoy talking about my experiences. Though the phrases seem trite to you, I have no interest in rephrasing what others have said. Yes, I am creative, but using it to explain enlightenment, to someone wholly ignorant of that state, doesn't hold a lot of appeal to me. Have at it - I find those who criticize me the most, have made the least progress. Your buddy Barry, who so impresses you so with his passport, is clearly a waking state phenomenon, and my progress vs. his lack of same, really, really bugs him. Doesn't mean a thing, except the poor kid has a terribly bruised ego. Sincerely, A life in enlightenment ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Like a big so what I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment. A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for you. Again, with the story below, a big so what I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the enlightenment game, the spiritual game still comes with all the same caveats as life. Keep your eyes open, and bove all, take responsibility for your own life, material and spirtitual. It's not complicated. Oh, you're welcome. (-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
As usual, it's all about you. I did enjoy the third person angle though. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. Barry simply reposted the excerpt sent to him by Vaj, because it is a comment on the issue of Neo-Advaitan pseudo-enlightenment we've discussed here many times. Barry does not believe anyone on this forum is enlightened, no matter how much they claim to be, and has said so many times. If the ones doing the claiming get their panties in a twist over it, he considers that proof that they're not enlightened, and thanks them for providing it. :-) For the record, Barry also does not read any FFL posts made by either Richard or Steve, and doesn't much care whether they stop eating and die, because that wouldn't affect him in any way. If Edg or Anartaxius fasted themselves to death stopped posting to FFL he would probably miss their writing for a day or so but he'd get over it. Seems to me people should get over themselves and get back to the business of being ordinary. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
MMY and Guru Dev do as well, speak about actual experience. Everything from them is first person experience. Haven't read enough Ramana to say. See, everybody talks about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : They all speak mostly about the methodologies. Yes, Adyashanti is the only person who seems to have spoken about the actual experience. --- fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, they do - Ramana, and MMY and Brahmananda Saraswati, and Adyashanti, all of those guys do it and talk about it, and write books - else we wouldn't have any examples. None of the characteristics of enlightenment are a secret, or something everyone dreams up independently. As for all of the above, being frauds and deluded, yeah it does look that way, from a certain perspective. If a person is culturally brainwashed, or feeble minded, or mentally unbalanced, any of those, then the people listed above seem like frauds and deluded. As for me having a long way to go, yes, it is a big place. --- jedi_spock@... wrote : --- fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : All the enlightened people talk about their experiences, No, they don't. like I am permanently established in silence, every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing. Why do you want me to repeat it? The enlightened people have been talking and writing about these things forever. They are all frauds or deluded. Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts. I didn't get what was so special about the story. And this other guy, going around telling people they are enlightened, anointing them like a pope. Maharishi declared that Robin was E. The whole thing is crazy. Just as enlightenment is self-evident, attempts to do anything more than describe it, live it, or achieve it, seem counter-productive, to me. You still have a long way to go. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Let's pretend I read this. What are the reasons that this statement you made to Barry does not apply to you, or say to me? Exactly how does one experientially and empirically parse the statement 'I am enlightened (or not)' versus, say, 'he is enlightened (or not). What is the criterion or criteria for making such a judgement? What is the ability developed in you that allows you to do this? How do you avoid making a mistake about it? How does this apply to techniques and teachings of other teachers, who also make the claim of enlightenment? How do you make a judgement concerning those teachers and their students, who may use different methods and have a different explanatory context? Maharishi said 'there is nothing new under the sun' and so, what is it about enlightenment that is different from what came before? Did he lie? Did he tell the truth? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From anyone here who has said that they are enlightened, I haven't seen any unraveling. The reason being that if anyone achieves spiritual liberation using the techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, they know the difference between true spiritual freedom and delusion. I am not sure you do, though. You are one of the strongest mood makers on here, and for someone in the game so long, you have almost nothing to show for it. PS Let's pretend you didn't read this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
The moderators of this list have almost nothing to do with this discussion. Anyone who posts to this group should be considered off the TM program. This group is for people that want to discuss *the mechanics of consciousness* - we do NOT discuss the TM technique. If anyone is interested in the thoughts or comings-and-goings of TMers, then read on... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:05 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome punditster writes: danfriedman2002 wrote: just checking... If I reply to every one of Richard's Posts, and then arbitrarily pick to reply to a few other people's posts, and start some old Topics, and then just hit reply without writing anything... ..do I win? Strategy check for mid-point assessment. Answer and question simultaneously: If you 'win' does everyone else lose? Ann, You tryin' Zen or some Aidvaita to play wit my head? Sos the answer to your koan is that We All Win We are all One, but APPEAR to be differrent. I know that, so when I WIN, we ALL Win. But, just in case I'm wrong. We can All Win because of my win, but I remain Champion of the ONE TEAM There are six FFL informants who are over the weekly posting limits, according to Rick's old limit. Since there are no posting limits now, all those under 50 messages are to be considered non-social - who can't even carry on a conversation exceeding 100 words per topic in a twelve hour period. Go figure. Any other things I should Post about? Anyone? Where We Went What We Did Today What People Think What People Wear What People Eat Where People Go What People Don't Think Where People Live What People Are Doing What People Want I'm sticking with the highlighted one for now. Why did you choose that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
Yeah, we have friends in Bend. It has exploded compared to the town it was in the 70's. Lots of foodies in the Chico area. Glad you are enjoying the beach, goats, and pee and stuff! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 204th Anniversary of Mexico's Independence! It's interesting here in e hampton. The place has become a real draw for people in Latin America. Muck like some spots in Cali. I loved the film A Day Without Mexicans fleety - i watched a dvd last night filmed in Chico and the lake. No plot to get in the way. Plot distractions are a pain when the scenery and cast are so amazingly beautiful. Spoiler Alert - lovely actress [plays a character longing for Bend, Oregon. I LOVE BEND. These's a beautiful family farm, where they are so sweet, and they keep goats. Well it turns out that this is very practical. Goat milk is great for bathing. Goat soap for washing. Goat lotion for moisturizing. I'll send some to Ann if she'd like. So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
Now, that is funny! So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
*Celebrating Mexican Independence Day, San Fernando Cathedral, San Antonio, Texas* http://lerablog.org/general/history/independence-in-different-traditions/ On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:32 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: 204th Anniversary of Mexico's Independence! It's interesting here in e hampton. The place has become a real draw for people in Latin America. Muck like some spots in Cali. I loved the film A Day Without Mexicans fleety - i watched a dvd last night filmed in Chico and the lake. No plot to get in the way. Plot distractions are a pain when the scenery and cast are so amazingly beautiful. Spoiler Alert - lovely actress [plays a character longing for Bend, Oregon. I LOVE BEND. These's a beautiful family farm, where they are so sweet, and they keep goats. Well it turns out that this is very practical. Goat milk is great for bathing. Goat soap for washing. Goat lotion for moisturizing. I'll send some to Ann if she'd like. So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Wins Miss America
http://youtu.be/VyDhH9OB1sI On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: just showing some hometown pride. Please join me in congratulating Kira Kazantsev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. I cannot believe you needed to show us what the intent of that little dipshit story was. Do people actually fake their enlightenment? Bizarre. I can see why you miss much of what I describe. It is simply that you have a low IQ. Not a big deal, but your ponderous nature at first appears like intense intellectual cogitation, but I now realize is you, simply peering through your own fog, at ordinary life. Barry has the same problem, as does Vaj - all of you, so unfulfilled within. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Like a big so what I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment. A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for you. Again, with the story below, a big so what I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the enlightenment game, the spiritual game still comes with all the same caveats as life. Keep your eyes open, and bove all, take responsibility for your own life, material and spirtitual. It's not complicated. Oh, you're welcome. (-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
He did say he was a coward and a narcissist. Why not just take him at his word? I have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)
There would be too much collateral damage in that scenario. So, I prefer my solution - destroy the infrastructure such as oil transport facilities, trucks, jeeps, tanks and all Toyota 4-Runners. Send in drones that pick off the leaders one-by-one, over time. Since it's a desert, there's really no place to hide and when you run, everyone can see you. It was a really bad idea for the leaders of ISIS to pick northern Iraq for their headquarters. They did a really stupid and bad thing - and now they will be destroyed by U.S. and allied air-power. Only the U.S. has the firepower to bring down ISIS - nobody else on the planet has the guts, enough money and ammunition, or the logistics to get the job done. The real problem is the U.S. Congress and the funding. Another problem is the alliance - nobody wants to send in boots on the ground. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:51 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact. These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out of this. --- jr_esq@... wrote : Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and stronghold. However, it's another scenario in Syria itself. At this time, I would assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons. If they don't, the so-called friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded. The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away. They can pick out enemy combatants.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. Barry simply reposted the excerpt sent to him by Vaj, because it is a comment on the issue of Neo-Advaitan pseudo-enlightenment we've discussed here many times. Barry does not believe anyone on this forum is enlightened, no matter how much they claim to be, and has said so many times. If the ones doing the claiming get their panties in a twist over it, he considers that proof that they're not enlightened, and thanks them for providing it. :-) For the record, Barry also does not read any FFL posts made by either Richard or Steve, and doesn't much care whether they stop eating and die, because that wouldn't affect him in any way. If Edg or Anartaxius fasted themselves to death stopped posting to FFL he would probably miss their writing for a day or so but he'd get over it. Seems to me people should get over themselves and get back to the business of being ordinary. :-) Yes, follow bawee's example and become very, very ordinary. There is nothing like being mediocre, average, run-of-the-mill, suburban, unmemorable, unexceptional, commonplace, humdrum, middle-of-the-road, dull, bland or conventional. Keep showing us how, bawee, so far you're doin' great.
[FairfieldLife] Antarctic sea ice reaches record levels, scientists say.
Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began. Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 20 million square kilometres covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent. It's the wind now! Snicker. New record set for extent of Antarctic sea ice http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 New record set for extent of Antarctic sea ice http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began. View on www.abc.net.au http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Wins Miss America
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : just showing some hometown pride. Please join me in congratulating Kira Kazantsev
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules. punditster writes: danfriedman2002 wrote: just checking... If I reply to every one of Richard's Posts, and then arbitrarily pick to reply to a few other people's posts, and start some old Topics, and then just hit reply without writing anything... ..do I win? Strategy check for mid-point assessment. Answer and question simultaneously: If you 'win' does everyone else lose? Ann, You tryin' Zen or some Aidvaita to play wit my head? Sos the answer to your koan is that We All Win We are all One, but APPEAR to be differrent. I know that, so when I WIN, we ALL Win. But, just in case I'm wrong. We can All Win because of my win, but I remain Champion of the ONE TEAM There are six FFL informants who are over the weekly posting limits, according to Rick's old limit. Since there are no posting limits now, all those under 50 messages are to be considered non-social - who can't even carry on a conversation exceeding 100 words per topic in a twelve hour period. Go figure. Any other things I should Post about? Anyone? Where We Went What We Did Today What People Think What People Wear What People Eat Where People Go What People Don't Think Where People Live What People Are Doing What People Want I'm sticking with the highlighted one for now. Why did you choose that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
Exactly, Ann! This enlightenment or whatever it is, means living life, all cylinders - trying the mysterious, the scary, the achingly beautiful, with possible trepidation, all of it, yet, pushing through that last boundary, to experience the world, always, in its freshness, liveliness, and endless creativity. I remember doing so much of that, for my entire life, so many adventures. It seems like bawee and some of the others have possibly done a few interesting things during their lives, and now they mostly lie around and reminisce, casting a droll, cynical and exhausted perspective, everywhere. Pardon my French, but, UHHH! BARF!! HOLY FUCK! Life is for continued growth and enjoyment, and the wiser we get, the more there is to enjoy. I was cutting trails in the woods with my chainsaw (luckily I don't play golf), the other day, and later realized the wildlife were instantly using the improved trails. Later in the day, coyote voices rose out of the east canyon. Still later, water bombers from Cal Fire, put out a blaze a couple of ridges away, and the moon that night lit the landscape like lunar snow. That's ONE FUCKING DAY. They are all like that - endless adventures and discoveries, some big, like mountain climbing, and some small, like a sweet phone call from my daughter. What I see in those denigrating enlightenment, is an absence of this life's blood, this vigor, vitality, and endless wonder. Enlightenment is not some contest, or game to reach the bottom first. It happens, and we are the better for it. Not that it is interesting by itself, but ;like the hershey's syrup I poured over vanilla ice cream, last night, it makes the whole thing more delicious. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. Barry simply reposted the excerpt sent to him by Vaj, because it is a comment on the issue of Neo-Advaitan pseudo-enlightenment we've discussed here many times. Barry does not believe anyone on this forum is enlightened, no matter how much they claim to be, and has said so many times. If the ones doing the claiming get their panties in a twist over it, he considers that proof that they're not enlightened, and thanks them for providing it. :-) For the record, Barry also does not read any FFL posts made by either Richard or
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. I cannot believe you needed to show us what the intent of that little dipshit story was. Do people actually fake their enlightenment? Bizarre. I can see why you miss much of what I describe. It is simply that you have a low IQ. Not a big deal, but your ponderous nature at first appears like intense intellectual cogitation, but I now realize is you, simply peering through your own fog, at ordinary life. Barry has the same problem, as does Vaj - all of you, so unfulfilled within. Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
This is a perfect example of why they should have a better screening process, to keep anti-social people from working for the TMO. This kind of behavior has probably been present since the guy was a small child. I mean, if a guy can't even participate in an online discussion group without blowing up, you can imagine what his life is like in real life! It must have been chaos just living with this guy! If he's like this now, after being cured, imagine what he was like twenty years ago when he was supposed to be a spiritual teacher. Most of the misfits posting here probably had severe social problems long before they started TM - it was just hidden from view. People don't just suddenly start expressing violent tendencies. Or, exhibit extreme anger at their government overnight - it's a chronic, pernicious condition over time. Usually people consult a cult-exit counselor or get some therapy from a psychiatrist. Apparently none of the misfits on FFL have done this and even refuse to admit they have any problems. The first step on any 12-step program is to admit you have a serious social or mental problem. Sometimes people have to be put on medication. Sometimes they have to be committed before they cause harm to others or to themselves. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:49 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be
[FairfieldLife] Can They Do It?
It will be interesting to see if they can pull it off. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29203284 Rosetta comet landing site chosen Europe's Rosetta mission, which aims to land on a 4km-wide comet later this year, identifies what it thinks is the safest place to touch down. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules. punditster writes: danfriedman2002 wrote: just checking... If I reply to every one of Richard's Posts, and then arbitrarily pick to reply to a few other people's posts, and start some old Topics, and then just hit reply without writing anything... ..do I win? Strategy check for mid-point assessment. Answer and question simultaneously: If you 'win' does everyone else lose? Ann, You tryin' Zen or some Aidvaita to play wit my head? Sos the answer to your koan is that We All Win We are all One, but APPEAR to be differrent. I know that, so when I WIN, we ALL Win. But, just in case I'm wrong. We can All Win because of my win, but I remain Champion of the ONE TEAM There are six FFL informants who are over the weekly posting limits, according to Rick's old limit. Since there are no posting limits now, all those under 50 messages are to be considered non-social - who can't even carry on a conversation exceeding 100 words per topic in a twelve hour period. Go figure. Any other things I should Post about? Anyone? Where We Went What We Did Today What People Think What People Wear What People Eat Where People Go What People Don't Think Where People Live What People Are Doing What People Want I'm sticking with the highlighted one for now. Why did you choose that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Exactly, Ann! This enlightenment or whatever it is, means living life, all cylinders - trying the mysterious, the scary, the achingly beautiful, with possible trepidation, all of it, yet, pushing through that last boundary, to experience the world, always, in its freshness, liveliness, and endless creativity. I remember doing so much of that, for my entire life, so many adventures. It seems like bawee and some of the others have possibly done a few interesting things during their lives, and now they mostly lie around and reminisce, casting a droll, cynical and exhausted perspective, everywhere. Pardon my French, but, UHHH! BARF!! HOLY FUCK! Life is for continued growth and enjoyment, and the wiser we get, the more there is to enjoy. I was cutting trails in the woods with my chainsaw (luckily I don't play golf), the other day, and later realized the wildlife were instantly using the improved trails. Later in the day, coyote voices rose out of the east canyon. Still later, water bombers from Cal Fire, put out a blaze a couple of ridges away, and the moon that night lit the landscape like lunar snow. That's ONE FUCKING DAY. They are all like that - endless adventures and discoveries, some big, like mountain climbing, and some small, like a sweet phone call from my daughter. What I see in those denigrating enlightenment, is an absence of this life's blood, this vigor, vitality, and endless wonder. Enlightenment is not some contest, or game to reach the bottom first. It happens, and we are the better for it. Not that it is interesting by itself, but ;like the hershey's syrup I poured over vanilla ice cream, last night, it makes the whole thing more delicious. Wheee! I love it. You describe how I live, or at least attempt to. Every flutter of the heart, every leap of adrenaline, all the sublime moments when you lie listening to a distant owl or the mating frogs on the pond outside your window - all of these things are beyond richness and gifts. I lack the desire to define it. I am such a visceral person. I love to cram every sense I have with all of the input I can find, I welcome experience. Pressing my nose against the velvet nostrils of my horse and sucking it all in, burying my face in the doggy fur of my mutts and inhaling deeply, walking face upturned in the pouring rain - how much better does it get than that? If there is something even greater than this and it's called enlightenment then wowzer. I'm pretty content right now, feeling it all - having to be brave when courage doesn't seem to be forthcoming, being sad because you have just had a loss so deep it seems to know no limits and your guts are turned inside out. And you sit in this and burn and feel until somehow it is lifted away. This is life, this is what is worth knowing and living. And yea, I like lots of chocolate syrup but it HAS to be vanilla ice cream. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
Yes, I find his pseudo-curiosity, static and annoying. Needy, too. Sorry about your upcoming banishment from the Canada folder. We'll get through this together. Pinky swear. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. I cannot believe you needed to show us what the intent of that little dipshit story was. Do people actually fake their enlightenment? Bizarre. I can see why you miss much of what I describe. It is simply that you have a low IQ. Not a big deal, but your ponderous nature at first appears like intense intellectual cogitation, but I now realize is you, simply peering through your own fog, at ordinary life. Barry has the same problem, as does Vaj - all of you, so unfulfilled within. Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. Barry simply reposted the excerpt sent to him by Vaj, because it is a comment on the issue of Neo-Advaitan pseudo-enlightenment we've discussed here many times. The Neo-Advaitan psudo-enlightenment has nothing to do with Sam Harris' book - Awake. It was a clumsy attempt by Barry to confuse. Besides, neither Ramana Maharishi nor Poonja-ji are considered to be Neo-Advaitan. Go figure. Barry does not believe anyone on this forum is enlightened, For the record, Barry once posted to FFL that he did not believe in enlightenment, therefore he is NOT in the enlightenment tradition of Sam Harris - or anybody else except for a few rank materialists posting to FFL. no matter how much they claim to be, and has said so many times. If the ones doing the claiming get their panties in a twist over it, he considers that proof that they're not enlightened, and thanks them for providing it. :-) For the record, Barry also does not read any FFL posts made by either Richard or Steve, and doesn't much care whether they stop eating and die, because that wouldn't affect him in any way. If Edg or Anartaxius fasted themselves to death stopped posting to FFL he would probably miss their writing for a day or so but he'd get over it. Seems to me people should get over themselves and get back to the business of being ordinary. :-) Ordinary people do not levitate, Mr. Wright.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
There are no posting limits on FFL - if people can't carry on a conversation here because they can't post more than 100 words a week in a normal conversation, then that's their problem. It's supposed to be a *discussion group*. Usually, on social media, you are considered to be a nerd if you can't keep up with the dialog in real time. Or, stunted. Otherwise, you should be using a *bulletin board* to leave your messages. That way, people can browse to the board and leave a message and maybe someday, someone will respond. It is considered really dumb on social media to spend a dozen postings containing drivel and fluff just to argue about how many posts another informant has posted to the debate. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:22 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules. punditster writes: danfriedman2002 wrote: just checking... If I reply to every one of Richard's Posts, and then arbitrarily pick to reply to a few other people's posts, and start some old Topics, and then just hit reply without writing anything... ..do I win? Strategy check for mid-point assessment. Answer and question simultaneously: If you 'win' does everyone else lose? Ann, You tryin' Zen or some Aidvaita to play wit my head? Sos the answer to your koan is that We All Win We are all One, but APPEAR to be differrent. I know that, so when I WIN, we ALL Win. But, just in case I'm wrong. We can All Win because of my win, but I remain Champion of the ONE TEAM There are six FFL informants who are over the weekly posting limits, according to Rick's old limit. Since there are no posting limits now, all those under 50 messages are to be considered non-social - who can't even carry on a conversation exceeding 100 words per topic in a twelve hour period. Go figure. Any other things I should Post about? Anyone? Where We Went What We Did Today What People Think What People Wear What People Eat Where People Go What People Don't Think Where People Live What People Are Doing What People Want I'm sticking with the highlighted one for now. Why did you choose that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
All anyone has to do to participate in an online discussion is read the messages and then respond by clicking on *Reply* and keying their response into the text box, and then click on *Send.* It's not complicated. Why are you guys having so much trouble with this simple task? Go figure. If you don't feel like responding, then just move on to another task. It's that simple. Nobody wants to spend time reading drivel and fluff - it makes everyone look like morons. The informants here should get some smarts, and start discussing something interesting. The only race we are in now is to see who can post the dumbest comments. Any casual reader coming here would think all TMers are imbeciles. The idea is to make your newsgroup look good! On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:55 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Y-9YSBB9sExcellent Idea! Watch this. On Monday, September 15, 2014 6:10 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: There would be too much collateral damage in that scenario. So, I prefer my solution - destroy the infrastructure such as oil transport facilities, trucks, jeeps, tanks and all Toyota 4-Runners. Send in drones that pick off the leaders one-by-one, over time. Since it's a desert, there's really no place to hide and when you run, everyone can see you. It was a really bad idea for the leaders of ISIS to pick northern Iraq for their headquarters. They did a really stupid and bad thing - and now they will be destroyed by U.S. and allied air-power. Only the U.S. has the firepower to bring down ISIS - nobody else on the planet has the guts, enough money and ammunition, or the logistics to get the job done. The real problem is the U.S. Congress and the funding. Another problem is the alliance - nobody wants to send in boots on the ground. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:51 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact. These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out of this. --- jr_esq@... wrote : Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and stronghold. However, it's another scenario in Syria itself. At this time, I would assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons. If they don't, the so-called friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded. The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away. They can pick out enemy combatants.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
Beautiful photo, Richard. Did you or Rita take it? On Monday, September 15, 2014 7:06 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Celebrating Mexican Independence Day, San Fernando Cathedral, San Antonio, Texas http://lerablog.org/general/history/independence-in-different-traditions/ On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:32 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: 204th Anniversary of Mexico's Independence! It's interesting here in e hampton. The place has become a real draw for people in Latin America. Muck like some spots in Cali. I loved the film A Day Without Mexicans fleety - i watched a dvd last night filmed in Chico and the lake. No plot to get in the way. Plot distractions are a pain when the scenery and cast are so amazingly beautiful. Spoiler Alert - lovely actress [plays a character longing for Bend, Oregon. I LOVE BEND. These's a beautiful family farm, where they are so sweet, and they keep goats. Well it turns out that this is very practical. Goat milk is great for bathing. Goat soap for washing. Goat lotion for moisturizing. I'll send some to Ann if she'd like. So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
You saw the final minute or two of the race - and the race wasn't even over yet? But, what do TITS have to do with the race if its an online discussion group? We all have tits. Go figure. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
Does he mean Bend, Oregon? And, you're inside a *beauty parlor* before sunrise? That is kind of funny. Go figure. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:34 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now, that is funny! So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
Alright, it's settled then - only two informants on this list has actually read Sam Harris's new book, Awake. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:48 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, I find his pseudo-curiosity, static and annoying. Needy, too. Sorry about your upcoming banishment from the Canada folder. We'll get through this together. Pinky swear. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. I cannot believe you needed to show us what the intent of that little dipshit story was. Do people actually fake their enlightenment? Bizarre. I can see why you miss much of what I describe. It is simply that you have a low IQ. Not a big deal, but your ponderous nature at first appears like intense intellectual cogitation, but I now realize is you, simply peering through your own fog, at ordinary life. Barry has the same problem, as does Vaj - all of you, so unfulfilled within. *Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file.*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celebrate Mexican Independence Day!
*Mexican Independence Day* is September 16, 2014, but it begins on the evening of the 15th. Tuesday, September 16 is called *Grito de Dolores.* Rita and I have attended many celebrations at the San Fernando Cathedral on Main Plaza in downtown San Antonio. *San Fernando Cathedral - built in 1738* http://lerablog.org/general/history/independence-in-different-traditions/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grito_de_Dolores On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Beautiful photo, Richard. Did you or Rita take it? On Monday, September 15, 2014 7:06 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Celebrating Mexican Independence Day, San Fernando Cathedral, San Antonio, Texas* http://lerablog.org/general/history/independence-in-different-traditions/ On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:32 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: 204th Anniversary of Mexico's Independence! It's interesting here in e hampton. The place has become a real draw for people in Latin America. Muck like some spots in Cali. I loved the film A Day Without Mexicans fleety - i watched a dvd last night filmed in Chico and the lake. No plot to get in the way. Plot distractions are a pain when the scenery and cast are so amazingly beautiful. Spoiler Alert - lovely actress [plays a character longing for Bend, Oregon. I LOVE BEND. These's a beautiful family farm, where they are so sweet, and they keep goats. Well it turns out that this is very practical. Goat milk is great for bathing. Goat soap for washing. Goat lotion for moisturizing. I'll send some to Ann if she'd like. So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same ph as us, so we benefit some chemical way. I, of course, hear her say PhD and start laughing. She asks and gets the funniness. We're rolling in laughter, tears coming down her face, and pee coming from my...well you know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
OK, so it's thug, bully, coward, and narcissist. Of course, what he's like in real life, I have no idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : He did say he was a coward and a narcissist. Why not just take him at his word? I have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. Thanks for being such a good SPORT Mac. I haven't laughed this hard in a while. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : You saw the final minute or two of the race - and the race wasn't even over yet? But, what do TITS have to do with the race if its an online discussion group? We all have tits. Go figure. Get with the program, Ricky. You haven't left the starting gate and the rest of us are enjoying crumpets and tea in the Club House. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
seems decent enough, from the trike vids. Doesn't seem overly aggressive or confrontational, just has some pent up shit, and is kinda into it, publicly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : OK, so it's thug, bully, coward, and narcissist. Of course, what he's like in real life, I have no idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : He did say he was a coward and a narcissist. Why not just take him at his word? I have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
What an amazing picture, to start it all with! Something about it screams Australia, and not just because of the bus movie. Do you happen to know where the picture was taken? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. Thanks for being such a good SPORT Mac. I haven't laughed this hard in a while. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
mmm...milk and sugar? How'z my hat? Oh, look, the Duke and Duchess of Whatever! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : You saw the final minute or two of the race - and the race wasn't even over yet? But, what do TITS have to do with the race if its an online discussion group? We all have tits. Go figure. Get with the program, Ricky. You haven't left the starting gate and the rest of us are enjoying crumpets and tea in the Club House. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I saw the final minute or two. Following the horrific TRIPLE wardrobe malfunction in the final turn - Major Fashion Disaster - numbers 4, 6 and 8 were the only ones holding onto shreds of decency, down the final stretch. At the last minute, #8, (widely favored), in a burst of incredible energy, revved like a hurricane, and secured the win**, by FOUR TITS. **Sadly, after a review of the race film, #8 was revealed to have quickly snorted something out of a secret compartment in his thumb ring, just prior to his explosive finish, and was disqualified. The win went to #6, who has now quit his day job as a stand in for Glenn Close, and is focusing in drag racing, full time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BRAVO! Well done - handicapped the field! I figured #5 for second, due to his plain brutish strength, if he can muscle that troublesome hem out of the way. And yes, 8 doesn't have a chance (or clue -- something in the water?). Would be a teeny bit more awesome, if each nag had a sock monkey, piggy-back - I kind of like the whole jockey thing - but who's complaining? I can't help but keep going with this, I am laughing so hard. Here is a shot taken a bit further down the field. It seems like things are heating up but poor #7 is, as predicted, well back from the rest of the field. #9 is busting a gut and his bustier at the same time. #6 and #8 look like real contenders here but #5's green racing silks seem to be hampering him although he does look glorious streaming down the field. Style is not lost in this race - if you can't cross the finish line first then at least you can look marvelous trying. Maybe that should be my motto. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My money is on number nine, by a fake breast. LOL. No one should bet on #8, very slow out of the gate there. #10 looks promising but it might just be all bravado and no finishing strength. #7 Looks like he's a little too playful out of the gate and #6 needs to get his rear engaged, lift his forehand and start to really run if he's going to finish in the top three. #5 seems hampered by ill-fitting tack so that one might not finish. All in all, a scruffy lot - obviously their maiden race. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : One could also argue the indictment and case that this weekly drag race has become an indulgence of unkindness to the more relevant and serious material that was the spiritual community of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo. Just like Maharishi's Brahmacharya Satyananda might go smack a scorpion down off a wall I should urge our community list moderators here to smack the memberships of these errant authors racing up and down the main drag here of our community before Yahoo-groups gets wind of this violation of groups guidelines and closes the whole roadway of FFL to us. Please act swiftly and save the larger community of FFL before these posting drag-racers take it entirely down. Sincerely, -Buck in the Dome I'm not sure if this was the kind of drag racing you were talking about but if so, then I would have to agree that this might be a violation of the rules.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Woman found functioning in spite of missing cerebellum
thank, Bhairitu, this is good info. I like that it reflects yin yang knowledge also. Am currently researching Chinese medicine for pre glaucoma. On Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:20 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The quiz resonates with yin and yang conditions as well metabolic typing. It's broken into the different chemicals and how their effect our body functioning as well as behavior. If you get deep into the metabolic typing stuff or biochemical individuality then you begin to understand how to maintain optimum body functioning. You might find this article interesting: http://www.royalrife.com/hbal.html On 09/13/2014 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, for those of us with all the brain parts, here's something else to consider: brain chemistry and deficiencies thereunto! http://pathmed.com/pdf/brain_quiz.pdf On Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:32 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Interesting article. Back in the 1980s some friends adopted a baby and it just couldn't stop crying day and night. When they took it to a doctor it was discovered that much of it's brain was missing. Doctors have discovered that somehow, a woman living in China has reached the age of 24 while missing a large part of her brain. They say this is evidence of how incredibly adaptable our brains can be. http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20141209-26167.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Woman found functioning in spite of missing cerebellum
do they smoke weed in China? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : thank, Bhairitu, this is good info. I like that it reflects yin yang knowledge also. Am currently researching Chinese medicine for pre glaucoma. On Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:20 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The quiz resonates with yin and yang conditions as well metabolic typing. It's broken into the different chemicals and how their effect our body functioning as well as behavior. If you get deep into the metabolic typing stuff or biochemical individuality then you begin to understand how to maintain optimum body functioning. You might find this article interesting: http://www.royalrife.com/hbal.html http://www.royalrife.com/hbal.html On 09/13/2014 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, for those of us with all the brain parts, here's something else to consider: brain chemistry and deficiencies thereunto! http://pathmed.com/pdf/brain_quiz.pdf http://pathmed.com/pdf/brain_quiz.pdf On Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:32 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Interesting article. Back in the 1980s some friends adopted a baby and it just couldn't stop crying day and night. When they took it to a doctor it was discovered that much of it's brain was missing. Doctors have discovered that somehow, a woman living in China has reached the age of 24 while missing a large part of her brain. They say this is evidence of how incredibly adaptable our brains can be. http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20141209-26167.html http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20141209-26167.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)
Jedi, That's too extreme. Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard core criminals. I don't believe the world would accept that solution. The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their ideology. They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness. Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be surrounded in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them. It's possible that Assad's forces could wipe them out first. If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further degrade ISIS. But this could also create international furor for attacking a sovereign land in Syria. Assad would complain, but he would be secretly rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact. These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out of this. --- jr_esq@... wrote : Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and stronghold. However, it's another scenario in Syria itself. At this time, I would assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons. If they don't, the so-called friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded. The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away. They can pick out enemy combatants.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pope Francis considers 'live in' relationships as sin
Jedi, Among Catholics, it's not uncommon to see some couples live together first before they get married by the priest. And, the local priest would usually marry them in the church if they confess their sins beforehand. But I know of a lady here in the US who married a Jewish guy in the Catholic church and was still married to another man in the Philippines. Ideally, she was supposed to get an annulment for her first marriage from the church before she can get married again in the church. I don't believe she got an annulment. So, she probably lied about her past in order to remarry in the church again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : Pope Francis considers 'live in' relationships as sin. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11095318/ Pope-marries-couples-living-in-sin-in-Vatican-ceremony.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11095318/Pope-marries-couples-living-in-sin-in-Vatican-ceremony.html The Hindu law describes -- not prescribes -- eight types of marriages including Gandharva Vivaha. Of these, only four types, namely, Brahmana (giving the girl to an educated bridegroom without dowry), Daiva (giving the girl to a priest during the performance of religious ceremony), Arsha (giving the girl after receiving dowry from the bridegroom) Prajapathya (giving the girl with respect and blessing, without dowry, the groom applies for the hand of the bride) were considered proper for all. The other four, Gandharva (Union of man and woman out of mutual love and consent, independently on their own), Asurika (marrying a girl against her will, by giving wealth to her family and kinsmen), Rakshasa (abducting a girl and marrying her forcibly) Pisacha (stealthily seducing a sleeping, intoxicated or mentally ill girl) were regarded as improper for all. According to shastras, noble marriages had no monetary or business transactions. In Islam, Nikāḥ al-Mutʿah is a type of marriage used in Twelver Shia Islam, where the duration of the marriage and the dowry must be specified and agreed upon in advance. It is a private contract made in a verbal or written format. At the end of the contract, the marriage ends and the wife must undergo iddah (a period of abstinence from sexual intercourse, usually the length of two menstrual cycles). The iddah is intended to give certain paternity to a child should the wife become pregnant during the contract.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
Anyone can be anything they want to be in an online discussion group, especially when they're posting anonymously.We don't know why someone would pose on a forum as a thug, a bully, a coward or a narcissist - all we know is that it happens. We don't have a resident psychologist anymore since Dr. Pete left us stranded here without a counselor. Usually, a moderator will step in when things get out of hand and the forum rules are broken. Go figure. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK, so it's thug, bully, coward, and narcissist. Of course, what he's like in real life, I have no idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : He did say he was a coward and a narcissist. Why not just take him at his word? I have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback, how men often talk to one another. I am sorry if you were offended by it, and I am sorry if I offended Edg. But that is a banter I am comfortable with, and I think I have been on both ends of it. I try not to take offense when people call me on my sh*t, or what they perceive as my sh*t. With the exception of certain business situations, or among polite company, I would not consider myself particularly politically correct. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
Most people, personality-wise, are probably pretty much just like their online persona - unless they are posers, according to Judy - and that would be dishonest. They wouldn't be able to hold up under close scrutiny. People that want to join a public discussion group don't usually just take on different personalities for no reason.That would be considered to be trolling. People who do this consciously in public are sometimes termed schizophrenic by psychologists. In an online discussion we pretty much read what we read - there's not much wiggle room for deceit - although since we no longer have the benefit of Judge Judy, there are several informants that try to get away with posting fibs. Go figure. There's no logical reason for anyone on this list, anyone that wants to show any street-cred - to pose as someone else - they would be outed in just a few minutes. The fact is, that NOBODY posting here knows what is going on with the TMO and probably never have - no matter how many biscuits they baked or how many mantras they sold. There are no TMO insider informants on this list, except for maybe Alex, and he already told us everything we need to know about the comings-and-goings in Vedic City.And, Share and Buck have told us everything we need to know about the comings-and-goings of the TMer in Fairfield. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: seems decent enough, from the trike vids. Doesn't seem overly aggressive or confrontational, just has some pent up shit, and is kinda into it, publicly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : OK, so it's thug, bully, coward, and narcissist. Of course, what he's like in real life, I have no idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : He did say he was a coward and a narcissist. Why not just take him at his word? I have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You have always come across on this forum, in my view, as a foul-mouthed thug and a bully with severe anger issues, and also an endless whiner about the movement, how they FORCED you to do this and that, as if you had no choice in the matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Gunna have to give the win to Steve hereI think I took it to be an elbow in the ribs as he intended...locker room jive. And maybe mostly too my Stop eating. Die. gobsmacker was suchlike, but I do contend that fasting to death is a perfect way to arrange the end of life. Seems all the scriptures everywhere got a soft spot for tapas. So, if I had a lesser technique to offer to Richard, I would offer it, but, HE'S DISSED EVERY POSSIBLE EVOLUTIONARY TECHNIQUE, so I can't tell him to shape up any other way. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee hee. And of course, as a topic, suicide has crossed my desk as much as anyone's, er probably. Have I mindfully processed more than three thoughts in a row about it as a personal choice due to intolerable personal circumstance? -- nah Cuz, surprise!, I'm a narcissist and coward and fascinated with the productivity of my consciousness. I got a first row seat inside a brain, and I mean to enjoy it. Confession: I still will tell folks that life is here to enjoy, ya know? I love that concept, and I learned it at the feet of Maharishi -- that God's reason to create was the expansion of happiness. I've written about it MANY times. But here, it's not so easy to present ones little darlings and wait for them to be hacked with rusty machetes. I write in many a venue, ya wouldn't even recognize me in some of themer, maybe. Yep, I do bonsai trim my personality for each. Some places have never heard a swear word outta me. Other places I have picked fights -- politics, morality, etc. with strangers who must be corrected -- you know the drill. I was kicked out of a trikking forum because they didn't like me griping about them allowing porn to be posted when we had under-18yer kids posting at the forum. About six Facebookers have unfriended me because I insisted that Jesus couldn't be at all like their Jesus. Like that, I have tilted at windmills and lost. My online life's a masquerade ball. You? Anyone here want to confess to putting a good foot forward? I came into FFL angry with my first post. I think I set a tone there that I have ridden as a dynamic suitable to this venue. A little bristle goes a long way. Keeps the party goers from spilling your drink. I do regret more than a few posts. But the chips have fallen where they mayas usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill yourself then Now maybe Edg would
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
However over-intellectualizing above enlightenment can be a barrier toward growth. Besides once person steps over the edge they will realize what has happened. A good sign you are down the path is when you no longer are concerned about whether you are enlightened or not. It is NOT an intellectual exercise. Neither can you tell from someone's posts on the Internet whether they are enlightened or not. Some of the markers for behaviors that might indicate enlightenment that I see online might be good for indicating a bliss ninny instead. Personality may not change a whole lot because it will still be governed by the person's samskaras. Samskaras are sort of the mask that the inner light shines through. Personally I think in this area Maharishi confused people. It's much simpler in other traditions. On 09/14/2014 07:01 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Like a big so what I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment. A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for you. Again, with the story below, a big so what I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the enlightenment game, the spiritual game still comes with all the same caveats as life. Keep your eyes open, and bove all, take responsibility for your own life, material and spirtitual. It's not complicated. Oh, you're welcome. (-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
Yep, parsing stuff down too much gets away from direct experience. I enjoy MMY's stages, but they were very confusing, viewed as a linear path, which of course, my ego craved - the 1,2,3 guide to unlocking the universe. That does seem to be the key; losing the key, the goal, and pretty much everything, except that constant desire for more. Letting the desire form the path, vs. desiring to follow a prescribed one, leads in the right direction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : However over-intellectualizing above enlightenment can be a barrier toward growth. Besides once person steps over the edge they will realize what has happened. A good sign you are down the path is when you no longer are concerned about whether you are enlightened or not. It is NOT an intellectual exercise. Neither can you tell from someone's posts on the Internet whether they are enlightened or not. Some of the markers for behaviors that might indicate enlightenment that I see online might be good for indicating a bliss ninny instead. Personality may not change a whole lot because it will still be governed by the person's samskaras. Samskaras are sort of the mask that the inner light shines through. Personally I think in this area Maharishi confused people. It's much simpler in other traditions. On 09/14/2014 07:01 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Steve, You do need to pay attention to what other people say about enlightenment, otherwise there are no markers as to whether you have made progress or not. But then, who has the 'right' markers? There are lots of descriptions of enlightenment in various traditions. Jim's experience is one of them, but it has me being suspicious because he has said rather little of it in detail, other than he has it, and he knows others do not. The only teacher I know of who describes enlightenment in great detail from start to finish, from a more 'personal' perspective, warts and all, is Adyashanti. There may be other teachers I do not know of, undoubtedly. Maharishi's system appears to have some general benchmarks, but it seems many have had experiences that are of another quality. The jury is out on this for me, but Jim seems to avoid going into much detail about his experience. 'Silence 24/7', a big release when it dawned, 'every perception sees the infinity of the object, unity prevailing', but generally not particularly creative in going beyond stock phrases that could be lifted from Maharishi's tapes. Because he seems to be interested in creativity and expression, I think he could do better at this and make up his own words for this, because then you get more of a feeling of a connexion with a person's mind. To me Jim seems more bluster than Brahman, but I do feel he had a profound experience from his point of view. I would just like to know more about it, and he seems reluctant to go into more detail. Also Jim seemed not to understand descriptions of enlightenment from other perspectives, such as Vedanta, which should not be a problem. Just something seems missing to me. Jim's performance strikes me as low resolution bravura, and seems more interested in telling the tale of it and how it compares to others' than in using it to illuminate our understanding about it. And Jim also said of Barry 'Barry told a silly little story about some western-bubbleized person having a good time, and then realizing instead they were a victim of karma, with a mind full of thoughts'. This was a cut and paste a friend sent to Barry from Sam Harris's book. It was an illustration that we can have experience which we misinterpret as enlightenment, but the story was part of a larger context in the book. I do think Barry was making a veiled reference to Jim, for Barry thinks Jim's enlightenment is faux enlightenment, and the story Sam Harris told was just that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Like a big so what I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment. A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for you. Again, with the story below, a big so what I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the enlightenment game, the spiritual game still comes with all the same caveats as life. Keep your eyes open, and bove all, take responsibility for your own life, material and spirtitual. It's not complicated. Oh, you're welcome. (-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the
[FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
I was thinking more about Bhairitu's comment, and I googled 'samskara', and got back mental or emotional pattern. So, the CC Maharishi refers to, is a state of enlightenment, with samskaras mostly intact. This is why he describes it as a state of inner silence, the individual feels enlightened, but this is not reflected in his environment; CC. The silence, or light, or whatever one calls the universal motive force, cannot be reflected in the environment, the outside world, until the samskaras get illuminated, with further enlightenment. Then simply seen for what they are, these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve, moving from impenetrable objects, to playthings. After the samskaras begin to get transparent, the silence or light appears to subjectively imbue and penetrate every experience, inside and out - the outside world is now enlightened, to a degree - oneness predominates, UC. A bigger state of enlightenment; the universal motive force is felt and seen everywhere, governing everything -
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[FairfieldLife] About Reasons
- Beyond the earth’s pull, the solarium’s dust motes Could not squeal down the golden afternoon’s shaftings As if on playground slides And they as if children surfing gravity’s love hugging Causality cannot grasp anything too light What use then for reasons for anything Enough that I, a mote, Cannot bother to believe in gravity or blame. -- Edg 2002 -
Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
Samskaras are defined as impressions. They are the impressions that make up your personality. There will some from your experiences during this lifetime and many believe there are also samskaras from prior lifetimes. It is believed that bad samskaras can be dissolved through sadhana. This is why saints who are believed to be enlightened don't necessarily behave the same. And even them some of are putting on the show. On 09/15/2014 04:07 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking more about Bhairitu's comment, and I googled 'samskara', and got back mental or emotional pattern. So, the CC Maharishi refers to, is a state of enlightenment, with samskaras mostly intact. This is why he describes it as a state of inner silence, the individual feels enlightened, but this is not reflected in his environment; CC. The silence, or light, or whatever one calls the universal motive force, cannot be reflected in the environment, the outside world, until the samskaras get illuminated, with further enlightenment. Then simply seen for what they are, these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve, moving from impenetrable objects, to playthings. After the samskaras begin to get transparent, the silence or light appears to subjectively imbue and penetrate every experience, inside and out - the outside world is now enlightened, to a degree - oneness predominates, UC. A bigger state of enlightenment; the universal motive force is felt and seen everywhere, governing everything -
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Wins Miss America
Actually she's from my neck of the woods and only went to NYC for college. ;-) On 09/15/2014 03:51 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: just showing some hometown pride. Please join me in congratulating Kira Kazantsev
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Fairfieldlife Posting Race
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : What an amazing picture, to start it all with! Something about it screams Australia, and not just because of the bus movie. Do you happen to know where the picture was taken? Here is a link to someone called Wally Bell. never heard of him. But here are some other fun versions of this popular sport. I wonder if it will graduate to an Olympic sport some day. How fun would that be? I can just see the Russians now. http://herewomentalk.com/drag-racing-with-wally-bell-live-the-colin-lively-show-fri-june-15th-2pm-edt http://herewomentalk.com/drag-racing-with-wally-bell-live-the-colin-lively-show-fri-june-15th-2pm-edt The guy on the left is rather delicious, I might add.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file. No Ann, you will remain in the Canada folder. Ever see the 1956 movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where duplicates of people, soulless and robotic , produced in strange, large, peapod-like incubators, replace the cast of characters one by one. The pod people are in bliss all the time, but no emotion. I am one of those. Beware of finding one of these pods on your property. 'As each pod reaches full development, it assimilates the physical characteristics, memories, and personalities of each sleeping person placed near it; these duplicates are devoid of all human emotion.' http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg View on basementrejects.com Preview by Yahoo Sleep well.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file. No Ann, you will remain in the Canada folder. Ever see the 1956 movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where duplicates of people, soulless and robotic , produced in strange, large, peapod-like incubators, replace the cast of characters one by one. The pod people are in bliss all the time, but no emotion. I am one of those. Beware of finding one of these pods on your property. 'As each pod reaches full development, it assimilates the physical characteristics, memories, and personalities of each sleeping person placed near it; these duplicates are devoid of all human emotion.' http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg View on basementrejects.com http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg Preview by Yahoo Sleep well. HA, HA. Thanks Xeno, you have pulled on your deepest resources for humor and creativity here. I really appreciate it. And believe you me, I am so thankful I can remain in the Canada folder for a while longer, you are indeed generous, not to mention benevolent - it means a lot. And now I feel bad having called you wallpaper. After this post I do believe you are more like a fern, a slow-waving harmless fern. Show me more, what else can you be? Oh, and yes, I have seen two versions of The Body Snatchers. I love the B and W version but the later one isn't too bad either. Superbly creepy in lots of ways. I love B grade horror movies, especially BW.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file. No Ann, you will remain in the Canada folder. Ever see the 1956 movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where duplicates of people, soulless and robotic , produced in strange, large, peapod-like incubators, replace the cast of characters one by one. The pod people are in bliss all the time, but no emotion. I am one of those. Beware of finding one of these pods on your property. 'As each pod reaches full development, it assimilates the physical characteristics, memories, and personalities of each sleeping person placed near it; these duplicates are devoid of all human emotion.' http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg View on basementrejects.com http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg Preview by Yahoo Sleep well. HA, HA. Thanks Xeno, you have pulled on your deepest resources for humor and creativity here. I really appreciate it. And believe you me, I am so thankful I can remain in the Canada folder for a while longer, you are indeed generous, not to mention benevolent - it means a lot. And now I feel bad having called you wallpaper. After this post I do believe you are more like a fern, a slow-waving harmless fern. Show me more, what else can you be? Oh, and yes, I have seen two versions of The Body Snatchers. I love the B and W version but the later one isn't too bad either. Superbly creepy in lots of ways. I love B grade horror movies, especially BW. Of course, this is the classic of the classics.
Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC I was thinking more about Bhairitu's comment, and I googled 'samskara', and got back mental or emotional pattern. So, the CC Maharishi refers to, is a state of enlightenment, with samskaras mostly intact. This is why he describes it as a state of inner silence, the individual feels enlightened, but this is not reflected in his environment; CC. The silence, or light, or whatever one calls the universal motive force, cannot be reflected in the environment, the outside world, until the samskaras get illuminated, with further enlightenment. Then simply seen for what they are, these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve, moving from impenetrable objects, to playthings. After the samskaras begin to get transparent, the silence or light appears to subjectively imbue and penetrate every experience, inside and out - the outside world is now enlightened, to a degree - oneness predominates, UC. A bigger state of enlightenment; the universal motive force is felt and seen everywhere, governing everything - If this is your experience, I am not going to complain about it excessively but attempting to poke holes in a person's expression of enlightenment gives the opportunity to patch the holes. Maybe, contrary to your inclination, you should teach or talk about it more, but on FFL it is likely to be unproductive. To be productive a person has to approach you with a certain interest in the subject, but here on FFL, we (including you) seem to think we know everything even though we have wide disagreement. I think you tend to be too reactive to negative comments about your alleged state. I say alleged because I simply cannot tell by reading a bit of text whether someone is enlightened. I can kinda guess, but that is not particularly accurate. I do have an acquaintance who I think has had a strong awakening experience, but I cannot tell how it has matured or even faded. I am not unfulfilled as per your observation. Be careful how much you project on others. When you teach others (not necessarily about enlightenment) you discover things you take for granted simply have no reality for them, and you discover your mode of expression also may simply not work, and you have to adjust the way and pace of what you say to get them to understand more clearly. You are kind of like a bull in a china shop, to use a cliché, that is, your manner tends to be brusk._._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster Xeno, although seemingly benign, is a bit of a plodder as well. While I sometimes appreciate his level tone and reasonably civilized manner I find I just can't figure out the static and bloodless manner in which he describes and analyzes things. If his posts are anything like he is in person then he resembles wallpaper more than a living, breathing creature. This post will probably relegate me to the fluff folder in the future, I'm afraid. And I so liked being the sole poster in the Canada file. No Ann, you will remain in the Canada folder. Ever see the 1956 movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where duplicates of people, soulless and robotic , produced in strange, large, peapod-like incubators, replace the cast of characters one by one. The pod people are in bliss all the time, but no emotion. I am one of those. Beware of finding one of these pods on your property. 'As each pod reaches full development, it assimilates the physical characteristics, memories, and personalities of each sleeping person placed near it; these duplicates are devoid of all human emotion.' http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-1956-pods-600x300.jpg View on basementrejects.com Preview by Yahoo Sleep well. HA, HA. Thanks Xeno, you have pulled on your deepest resources for humor and creativity here. I really appreciate it. And believe you me, I am so thankful I can remain in the Canada folder for a while longer, you are indeed generous, not to mention benevolent - it means a lot. And now I feel bad having called you wallpaper. After this post I do believe you are more like a fern, a slow-waving harmless fern. Show me more, what else can you be? Oh, and yes, I have seen two versions of The Body Snatchers. I love the B and W version but the later one isn't too bad either. Superbly creepy in lots of ways. I love B grade horror movies, especially BW. Of course, this is the classic of the classics. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Gort_Firing.jpg View on upload.wikimedia.org Preview by Yahoo Gort, the humanoid robot was apparently a seven foot+ actor, although I read somewhere he worked in a hotel, and his height got him the job. There were two suits, one laced up in the back, and one laced up in the front. There is at least one scene in the movie where you can see the laces as the robot walks past the camera. My bedtime. And I don't have to look for pods. I have already been replaced. Live long and prosper.
