[FairfieldLife] George Strait: King of Broken Hearts
Dear Richard, The king of broken hearts doesn't ask much from his friends... KING OF BROKEN HEARTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uj21z-Rs2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uj21z-Rs2c KING OF BROKEN HEARTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uj21z-Rs2c KING OF BROKEN HEARTS GEORGE STRAIT MY CREATION View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uj21z-Rs2c Preview by Yahoo
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Yep, I also think the focus on instant gratification in our society plays a part. Many in or hitting the 20's now were raised during a decade or two of particular emphasis on consumerism and economic opportunity. Things are turning around; the word sustainability is one said with passion by my oldest and her friends and they are living what they believe in. Living outside the home also remains one of the best ways for American-bred children to grow up, I do believe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, I have seen that too. Part of it may come from living in a world where everything is so easily available, a consumer's paradise, yet still needs to be earned. Because of easy credit, and/or being too sheltered, some don't get the 'earned' part. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Perhaps so. I hope so. But, I also see a sense of entitlement that I can't figure out. At least with my oldest. The good news is that I think reality is finally starting to sink in, for him, at least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I think they will do amazing things, too. That generation is far ahead of us, with many accomplishing effortlessly what it took us many years to see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving money savy,whether you get social security and a pension. It will be really interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years. Many have not worked long enough to support a 35 year retirement. I know of several extended families that are living under one roof - the 30 year olds move back in with the parents because they cannot afford a house or rental, then they help their parents (our age) with rent and chores. and the parents get to be around their grandchildren. I would expect that this will become more and more typical since it helps everyone with finances as well as socializing. I look forward to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- social policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems. Maybe I am too optimistic, but I think they might do some terrific things (most especially to deal with global warming).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art
Wow. Stunning. Dressage - wow! I've never seen it. Really astounding how perfectly the horse and rider were attuned and how perfectly the performance tied to the music and how each movement was so precisely exceptional. I love the step where the horse changes its lead foot and it prances down the arena (don't know anything about any of this). Thank you Ann for posting this video. Horses melt my heart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : It was a seamless performance - almost like a centaur. Horses are so light on their feet, too (which are smaller than ours), all while carrying a person and saddle! I hope it doesn't hurt the horse's neck to be reined in tight like that. I see it enough that I suppose not, but it does look somewhat uncomfortable. The outline of the horse is determined mostly by the horse. You couldn't pull that horse's neck in like that if you were hanging on for your life and pulling with all your might - the horse is still stronger. It is the way the horse naturally goes when its back is working and the hindlegs engaged. It would be impossible for the horse to do what it does at this level unless it is using its topline, its back muscles. An inverted horse is a weak horse and in pain - one that is round is comfortable as long as it has been developed and trained over time to become educated and it muscles strengthened. You can overdo the use of the curb rein for sure and there are times when bad dressage riders ride overbent but as long as the front profile of the horse's nose is not behind the vertical you are okay. Trust me, if this horse was hurting he wouldn't do what he does for that rider. They are the perfect team and a once-in-a-hundred years phenomenon. This particular performance is a freestyle which means they choreographed certain required Grand Prix movements to music of their choice in the sequence of their choice. The double canter pirouettes are astounding - trust me! Thanks for watching. Now, to see it in real life is even more spectacular. See photo of horse naturally passaging and see how it holds its head and neck with no rider, no bit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks, and as part of our mutual admiration society, I marvel at your ability to both ride, and care for, horses, who I am convinced come from another planet - well, not convinced, but their power, size, beauty, intelligence and wonderful weirdness, is astounding. My contribution is watching Mr. Ed, aka, Bamboo Harvester, on TV. Heh. I have a personal theory that horses are closer to the celestial realm than other animals. I also want to share with you an incredible horse/rider combination who are currently competing at the World Equestrian Games in Normandy. These two are as close as you can get to the ideal in dressage, indeed, the ideal in what riding is all about. Please have a look, this is their freestyle ridden just yesterday by Charlotte Dujardin and Valegro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptNN7CdfSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptNN7CdfSM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, agreed. Even if I don't revel in the feelings his art evokes in me, I respect his effort, his skill in getting his message across, and his nakedness, in putting such deep stuff out there, for all to see, and judge. Said like a guy who appreciates all kinds of art and is an artist himself. Always enjoy you Mac. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks. The exhibit could travel next to Fairfield, and be displayed at MUM - Provocative stuff. His work is well done, and he puts a lot of skill and effort into it. I guess the art world needs those who focus on darker themes as Lynch often does. A little goes a long way, though. Yes, interesting. I love the man with the long arms and the matches. His little pieces are like small exposes or revelations of a moment or event - not exactly Botticelli or Raphael but evocative and worth a look at. I can't pretend to know what animates Lynch but he is a thoughtful man and his art certainly is worth a look at. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like this, the university would send them home with a note to their parents saying get your son some psychiatric help! What a joke the Movement has become.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
Yep, and if one reads what was written, the statement does not accuse or call out Richard or Share in the way that Richard so sadly assumed and posted. sigh ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Well duh. That's her opinion, and she's entitled to it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/31/2014 9:01 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What exactly do you mean? Not enough to defend Share? According to Denise: Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel. I thought I said yesterday that I thought she was nearly perfect just as she was. Maybe that wasn't clear, or misunderstood by you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/31/2014 8:43 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, tremendous admirer of the female energy, female form, female, well, you name it. But, not enough to defend Share? Go figure. Propensity to talk a lot, well..maybe, nsm (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I own up to being a member of the DE fan club. Cool, me too. But then Steve, you were always a soft-ee for the women here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... wrote : Re: Who let you in here, Denise? Well, Richd, you aren't the first person to say this and you probably won't be the last. Some of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in some way? P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way; I've been sloppy today with my emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep. Interesting what has happened. The limits were removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel. Gone are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one wanted to converse. Limits that forced a pause in the action. Quite the statement this forum is, really. Now that's a thought-stopper! Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up against yours any day. You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post your comments. Denise Evans: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.coml=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.coml=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any substance... You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure. Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda Author: Richard J. Williams Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... mailto:wayback71@... wrote : I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.
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Ah Share, you so misinterpret me and my sense of humor. I am not a nasty person, not at all. I will depart again to leave you in charge of FFL, as a continued amends for bringing your very real resentments against me to light. Life is too short, my dear, and I am an internet presence only in your life. I encourage you to let the ill-feelings go into the Unified Field. Best wishes and keep on being you. Love, Em ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, good, I'm glad. I wasn't sure. Because a few weeks ago when Emily did another one of her nasty drive bys, your response was ...this is why I love you, Em. I just figured that somewhere along the way I'd said or done something to cause you to not like me. Which is your perogative of course. But wanted to apologize in case I had done something specific. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 12:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: really, I feel wonderful, but thank you ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear Richard and Steve, I'm just reading through what you all were writing this morning wrt me. I got home late from the Dome because I helped one carless friend do grocery shopping and then I ran into another friend and we had a long chat. THEN I got home and my Mom had called all upset about something. So...I've had a busy morning and am just now reading your posts. Having just spoken with my upset Mom, in this moment I'm aware of how tender human hearts are. Richard, thank you so much for all that you wrote this morning. It definitely soothed my heart alot. And Steve, I apologize if I've written something to hurt your feelings. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:25 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/31/2014 9:02 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I enjoy all of Share's contributions. I always have, and have said as much, or so I thought. So do I, but I just can't understand why you and some of the other informants just remain silent when our friends are attacked for no apparent reason. I spoke up when Judy did this to Share - Judy was acting like a school-yard bully and I called her on it. Why do you suppose that Judy did that? And, why would it concern anyone else, even it Share an I were posting meaningless drivel? Especially someone like Denise that last posted here over a year ago? So, I just can't figure out why some people are so hateful and abusive when all we're trying to do is have fun on a discussion group. And, I can't understand why our friends don't speak up and object to it? Yet, they post reams of meaningless drivel. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 10:23 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I own up to being a member of the DE fan club. So, Steve, why can't Share have fun posting here, even if it is meaningless drivel? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... wrote : Re: Who let you in here, Denise? Well, Richd, you aren't the first person to say this and you probably won't be the last. Some of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in some way? P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way; I've been sloppy today with my emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep. Interesting what has happened. The limits were removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel. Gone are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one wanted to converse. Limits that forced a pause in the action. Quite the statement this forum is, really. Now that's a thought-stopper! Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up against yours any day. You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post your comments. Denise Evans: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.coml=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.coml=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@...
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O.K. One more. You are continuing on your relentless path to misinterpret, corrupt, and revise what I sad to ensure you get it in writing that what I said was negative. Cheer up Share. You can't win. That's not how life works. What was said was that you and Richard ushered in the chat room and that there is a preponderance of meaningless drivel that characterizes chat rooms. You used the term chat room many many times and I gave you an opinion of chat rooms, in general. Yes, and there is plenty of meaningless drivel that is posted here. Like what I am writing. So what? GUESS WHAT? IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. I HAVE BEEN THINKING THAT YOUR QUIPS OF LATE ARE CUTE AND CLEVER. BUT YOU AND RICHARD DO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE ANY FUN AT ALL HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE SO DANG FRIGID. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, resentment has nothing to do with it. You say that Richard and I have brought the forum to a state of meaningless drivel. And then you sign off with love?! I simply don't trust it when you suddenly turn friendly. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:19 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ah Share, you so misinterpret me and my sense of humor. I am not a nasty person, not at all. I will depart again to leave you in charge of FFL, as a continued amends for bringing your very real resentments against me to light. Life is too short, my dear, and I am an internet presence only in your life. I encourage you to let the ill-feelings go into the Unified Field. Best wishes and keep on being you. Love, Em ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, good, I'm glad. I wasn't sure. Because a few weeks ago when Emily did another one of her nasty drive bys, your response was ...this is why I love you, Em. I just figured that somewhere along the way I'd said or done something to cause you to not like me. Which is your perogative of course. But wanted to apologize in case I had done something specific. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 12:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: really, I feel wonderful, but thank you ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear Richard and Steve, I'm just reading through what you all were writing this morning wrt me. I got home late from the Dome because I helped one carless friend do grocery shopping and then I ran into another friend and we had a long chat. THEN I got home and my Mom had called all upset about something. So...I've had a busy morning and am just now reading your posts. Having just spoken with my upset Mom, in this moment I'm aware of how tender human hearts are. Richard, thank you so much for all that you wrote this morning. It definitely soothed my heart alot. And Steve, I apologize if I've written something to hurt your feelings. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:25 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/31/2014 9:02 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I enjoy all of Share's contributions. I always have, and have said as much, or so I thought. So do I, but I just can't understand why you and some of the other informants just remain silent when our friends are attacked for no apparent reason. I spoke up when Judy did this to Share - Judy was acting like a school-yard bully and I called her on it. Why do you suppose that Judy did that? And, why would it concern anyone else, even it Share an I were posting meaningless drivel? Especially someone like Denise that last posted here over a year ago? So, I just can't figure out why some people are so hateful and abusive when all we're trying to do is have fun on a discussion group. And, I can't understand why our friends don't speak up and object to it? Yet, they post reams of meaningless drivel. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 10:23 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I own up to being a member of the DE fan club. So, Steve, why can't Share have fun posting here, even if it is meaningless drivel? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... wrote : Re: Who let you in here, Denise? Well, Richd, you aren't the first person to say this and you probably won't be the last. Some of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in some way? P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way; I've been sloppy today with my emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 12:38
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
Did I say frigid? I meant to say rigid. Ah ha ha ha.is that a Freudian slip? Way too personal a comment for me on this fine Sunday. I'm out till October. Go ahead Share and profess your distrust of my friendliness to your hearts content. Don't bother to ask yourself what this is saying about you. I won't even defend myself - the stage is yours. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : O.K. One more. You are continuing on your relentless path to misinterpret, corrupt, and revise what I sad to ensure you get it in writing that what I said was negative. Cheer up Share. You can't win. That's not how life works. What was said was that you and Richard ushered in the chat room and that there is a preponderance of meaningless drivel that characterizes chat rooms. You used the term chat room many many times and I gave you an opinion of chat rooms, in general. Yes, and there is plenty of meaningless drivel that is posted here. Like what I am writing. So what? GUESS WHAT? IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. I HAVE BEEN THINKING THAT YOUR QUIPS OF LATE ARE CUTE AND CLEVER. BUT YOU AND RICHARD DO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE ANY FUN AT ALL HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE SO DANG FRIGID. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, resentment has nothing to do with it. You say that Richard and I have brought the forum to a state of meaningless drivel. And then you sign off with love?! I simply don't trust it when you suddenly turn friendly. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:19 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ah Share, you so misinterpret me and my sense of humor. I am not a nasty person, not at all. I will depart again to leave you in charge of FFL, as a continued amends for bringing your very real resentments against me to light. Life is too short, my dear, and I am an internet presence only in your life. I encourage you to let the ill-feelings go into the Unified Field. Best wishes and keep on being you. Love, Em ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, good, I'm glad. I wasn't sure. Because a few weeks ago when Emily did another one of her nasty drive bys, your response was ...this is why I love you, Em. I just figured that somewhere along the way I'd said or done something to cause you to not like me. Which is your perogative of course. But wanted to apologize in case I had done something specific. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 12:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: really, I feel wonderful, but thank you ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear Richard and Steve, I'm just reading through what you all were writing this morning wrt me. I got home late from the Dome because I helped one carless friend do grocery shopping and then I ran into another friend and we had a long chat. THEN I got home and my Mom had called all upset about something. So...I've had a busy morning and am just now reading your posts. Having just spoken with my upset Mom, in this moment I'm aware of how tender human hearts are. Richard, thank you so much for all that you wrote this morning. It definitely soothed my heart alot. And Steve, I apologize if I've written something to hurt your feelings. On Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:25 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/31/2014 9:02 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I enjoy all of Share's contributions. I always have, and have said as much, or so I thought. So do I, but I just can't understand why you and some of the other informants just remain silent when our friends are attacked for no apparent reason. I spoke up when Judy did this to Share - Judy was acting like a school-yard bully and I called her on it. Why do you suppose that Judy did that? And, why would it concern anyone else, even it Share an I were posting meaningless drivel? Especially someone like Denise that last posted here over a year ago? So, I just can't figure out why some people are so hateful and abusive when all we're trying to do is have fun on a discussion group. And, I can't understand why our friends don't speak up and object to it? Yet, they post reams of meaningless drivel. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 10:23 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I own up to being a member of the DE fan club. So, Steve, why can't Share have fun posting here, even if it is meaningless drivel? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... wrote : Re: Who let you in here, Denise? Well, Richd,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
Re: Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any of the current posters - they're for my grand-children living in California to read. Scary isn't it? That you would post this much nonsense for your grandchildren to read. Maybe give them a call once in a while, instead, or email them directly, or post pictures on their Facebook pages. Has it ever occurred to you to ask yourself what your impact on your grandchildren could be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 8:10 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You sound like an old crank, pissed off that the neighborhood kids stole your newspaper, again. Maybe Mr. Wilson, in 'Dennis The Menace'. Ajax is not the only informant on FFL that has trouble keeping up with the conversation. I've been posting here since 2002 and I've never had a real dialog with Rick, who is supposed to be the moderator. On Google Groups I posted hundreds of on-topic messages trying to strike up a conversation with anyone interested in discussing the mechanics of consciousness and Judy ignored me for five years - until I called John Kerry a liar for fibbing about being in Cambodia at Christmas in 1968. That's when she first called me a liar and tried ever since then to get everybody else to shun me. It's sometimes difficult to take seriously the hit and run posters who aren't really serious about starting and keeping up a dialog. Judy was one of the only respondents that really took this social media newsgroup seriously. We lost one of the most interesting respondents when Shemp McGurck left and the informant Vaj stopped posting. It's been kind of downhill ever since then. Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any of the current posters - they're for my grand-children living in California to read. Go figure. My very first post to FFL: Author: Willytex Subject: A Total Knowledge Base Date: January 1, 2002 Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any substance. The curiosity quotient of the FFL denizens is rapidly approaching zero. If you want to hone your mind here, you might as well pound your head against a wall. With the disappearance of Judy Stein, the main burr around which interesting discussions developed is gone. Barry is one of the few posters here who can write a coherent post longer than a couple of lines. Also missing in action is Curtis who provided some of the best reasoned retorts to various arguments that appeared here. Life goes on, and dies, dies, dies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... mailto:wayback71@... wrote : I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to make that decision? I like the idea of posting limits for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself. So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live with the consequences of forum freedom. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not. The trolls would have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit. Most other group moderators do this. Rick even suggested that Richard needs a hobby. Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't reply to them. Then they'll return to the bridges they live under. On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep. Interesting what has happened. The limits were removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel. Gone are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one wanted to converse. Limits that forced a pause in the action. Quite the statement this forum is, really. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any substance... You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure. Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda Author: Richard J. Williams Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... mailto:wayback71@... wrote : I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditation and Science
Steve! Ha - a modest laugh for you. Not to disappoint, I must comment that Share, for the most part, appears to be making progress and taking herself less seriously. Share, how are you doing on letting go of those resentments? Dig deep, baby, dig deep. Love, Em.---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Barry is over concerned with Lawson Judy is over concerned with Barry Richard is over concerned with Fred Lenz Emily is over concerned with Share Share is over concerned with Jupiter's transit Steve is over concerned with day to day tribulations and family finances Bharitu is over concerned with bankers Michael is over concerned with the past,present and future of the TMO Nablusoss is over concerned with, well you know what. Alex is over concerned with which cell phone provider works best is rural Iowa Rick is over concerned with not stepping on anyone's toes Ann is over concerned making sure no one steps out of line Jim is over concerned that enlightenment isn't given short shrift Mike is over concerned that the liberal pov doesn't completely dominate the discussion here feste is over concerned that the more refined things in life don't get overlooked Doug is over concerned that we don't forget what our priorities are jr_esq is over concerned that there must an astrological basis to every event, no matter how small Edg is over concerned that the unique properties of water are not duly appreciated Salyavin is over concerned that any analysis is not dry enough Anataxius is over concerned that ever angle must be considered, no matter how long it takes Card is over concerned that we know the etymological basis of most all phrases ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You have your perspective on me and I have mine. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Nothing terribly wrong with the methodology except that responses to the survey were self-selected, so perhaps, one way, or another, the responses were NOT indicative of the majority of people who do TM. For all we know, the people who didn't respond were actually worse off than the ones who did. The point is that such surveys are never considered very accurate, and especially not when less than half of the people respond.My point is that I don't believe you. Based on your consistent posts and stance on this forum and on a.m.t., I think that if you encountered a study that was pro-TM and was based on a similar test subject self-selection process, you'd be touting it everywhere as accurate and reliable. It's the seeming *compulsion* you have to find proof for the things you've been taught to believe that I question. I think that's aberrant, and not a positive thing. I don't know of *any* other meditation technique that has the same compulsion to prove itself BEST that TM does. And it *all* comes from indoctrination, IMO. You were told from your first introductory lecture onwards that TM was the best, and you believed it *without a shred of proof*. Now, years later, after you're old and not enlightened and most of TM's other promises have not really worked out, for you or others, you seem a little desperate to find proof -- *any* proof -- that will support these things you chose to believe *without proof*. As I've said many times, I don't think that TM is terribly harmful for most people, done 20x20 as originally taught. On the other hand, I think that rounding and the TMSP *will* be harmful in some ways for *most* people. I don't think Maharishi ever even considered the latter possibility, because he was such a True Believer that he *couldn't*. He was such a naricssist that if he found himself saying it, for him it was true. Only it wasn't. It's not *just* that Maharishi didn't really CARE about any of these people who had negative results from TM or from rounding/TMSP. He didn't...I've seen dozens of examples of how little he cared about any individual students of his. But on a deeper level, I don't think he even admitted to himself that such people *existed*. He'd just tune them out, and not allow his mind to accept their existence, because that would mean that his seeing about things was wrong. Can't have that. So what I guess I'm saying is that I think you do something similar. At this point in your life, having invested 40 years in a beginner's technique of meditation cobbled together by Maharishi but presented to you as the highest path and the best form of meditation in the world, you seem increasingly desperate to find some *proof* that these things were true. My advice to you is to relax and stop obsessing, because the things you were told were NEVER true, and they are not true now. You're on a fool's errand. All that matters is whether you enjoy continuing to believe the untrue things you've been conditioned to believe. You're
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditation and Science
Barry - you are again demonstrating your inability to laugh at yourself! What gives? Please listen to and post some music today - you'll feel better. If that doesn't work, try and have a deep and meaningful conversation with Share online here for us all to watch and comment on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And -- to be perfectly honest -- these days you're a busybody with so little going on in your own life that you only check in here on FFL to be overly concerned with everybody else and tell them all how badly their lives are going and how much better those lives would be if they just lived them the way YOU want them to. Hee, hee, when you look at this with just a smidgeon of objectivity and without the bawee -gggo you would realize you are speaking about yourself here. You are a constant source of hilarity, bawee. There was a time when you actually had things to contribute, but those days are now mainly a thing of the past. I wouldn't know if you ever had anything to contribute that was worth reading in the past but 18 years is a long time to have been posting on the internet so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:26 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditation and Science Barry is over concerned with Lawson Judy is over concerned with Barry Richard is over concerned with Fred Lenz Emily is over concerned with Share Share is over concerned with Jupiter's transit Steve is over concerned with day to day tribulations and family finances Bharitu is over concerned with bankers Michael is over concerned with the past,present and future of the TMO Nablusoss is over concerned with, well you know what. Alex is over concerned with which cell phone provider works best is rural Iowa Rick is over concerned with not stepping on anyone's toes Ann is over concerned making sure no one steps out of line Jim is over concerned that enlightenment isn't given short shrift Mike is over concerned that the liberal pov doesn't completely dominate the discussion here feste is over concerned that the more refined things in life don't get overlooked Doug is over concerned that we don't forget what our priorities are jr_esq is over concerned that there must an astrological basis to every event, no matter how small Edg is over concerned that the unique properties of water are not duly appreciated Salyavin is over concerned that any analysis is not dry enough Anataxius is over concerned that ever angle must be considered, no matter how long it takes Card is over concerned that we know the etymological basis of most all phrases ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You have your perspective on me and I have mine. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditation and Science
Ah ha ha ha - damn - where did the modesty go? That is LOL funny. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Ahem, I believe I'm overLY concerned.Aand, it's not about water's properties -- it's about radiation's ability to make water PURE and ORDERLY.It's the light, not the water that fascinates me. Jesus too, I understand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice Quote - Shows the Nature of this Gentle Man
Wonderful Ann. What Carrie Fisher said is front and center on Yahoo, but I'll post it because her tribute is also very touching... Carrie Fisher on Robin Williams: 'He Was the Opposite of Selfish' https://www.yahoo.com/movies/carrie-fisher-on-robin-williams-he-was-the-opposite-94639993537.html https://www.yahoo.com/movies/carrie-fisher-on-robin-williams-he-was-the-opposite-94639993537.html Carrie Fisher on Robin Williams: 'He Was the Opp... https://www.yahoo.com/movies/carrie-fisher-on-robin-williams-he-was-the-opposite-94639993537.html Following a performance of her one-woman show, Wishful Drinking, a few years back, Carrie Fisher was surprised to see one of her longtime friends sho... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/movies/carrie-fisher-on-robin-williams-he-was-the-opposite-94639993537.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Message from Glenn Close:Robin Williams was my friend. He was the star of the first movie I ever did called The World According To Garp. It was his second feature film and he was wildly popular because of his years in the TV show, Mork and Mindy. George Roy Hill was our director and he believed in Robin's transcendent talent. I watched as the two of them worked on ridding Robin of all the mannerisms he had taken on while playing a brilliantly funny, spontaneous alien. Robin was seriously determined to become a film actor and George took his desire seriously. It was wonderful to watch. Robin was incredibly sensitive to the crew, to the people who don't always get the recognition they deserve for the various jobs they do during a shoot. Robin knew everyone's name and could always get a laugh---not a laugh aimed at himself, but a laugh that recognized others. He gave various favorite crew members special nicknames. Our camera operator had famously combed-back, black hair that had considerable amounts of product in it, keeping every hair in place in all kinds of weather. Robin dubbed him Teflon Man and would do hilarious rifts as an archeologist in the distant future finding Teflon Man with his hair still perfect. Robin was incredibly sensitive and gentle and loving. He was very self-critical. During Garp we had a press conference and I was asked to go along with Robin. I watched this quiet man, who I'd never seen reading a newspaper or magazine or watching TV, explode into the press room and do an amazing turn on all the most current events, people and issues. He wove it all into a cohesive whole with no notes, nothing but his genius. It was breathtaking in its spontaneity and brilliance. Everyone was completely blown away. When we walked out of the room together, Robin turned to me with a worried look and asked in a whisper, Was that all right? I gave him a long hug and said, Yes! You were incredible He checked to make sure I really meant it and then went to his trailer. Robin was a world treasure. As we mourn his tragic death, we must remember him for the great waves of laughter that he was able to illicit from us, how his humor and insights--though they came from a place of pain and uncertainty---connected us and reminded us of how flawed and fragile...how human we are...how we are capable of moments of inspired transcendence and others of unspeakable despair. Robin had it all. I am so deeply thankful that this dearly loved man graced this particular planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When meditation is not enough
Thank you Michael. I love this. My college kid took an online class over Winter Break last year on Environmental Literature and this was one of the pieces she wrote about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The Peace of Wild Things When despair grows in me and I wake in the middle of the night at the least sound in fear of what my life and my children's lives may be, I go and lie down where the wood drake rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds. I come into the peace of wild things who do not tax their lives with forethought of grief. I come into the presence of still water. And I feel above me the day-blind stars waiting for their light. For a time I rest in the grace of the world, and am free. Wendell Berry
Re: [FairfieldLife] Damn It
Ahhh Steve. Never mind. I wasn't implying you were heartless, just stuck in your head is all. He just died today afterall. Of course his suicide isn't any more tragic than anyone else's - I didn't imply that at all. Again.your mind...give it a rest maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : okay, so he was a father of three. what does that mean. okay, he did show for the troops. very commendable. what I am saying, is that I never saw him out of his character, so I have no idea who he really was other than a person who answered every question with a crazy guy routine. That's how I see it. Sorry if you see it has heartless. Is his suicide any more tragic than anyone elses? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Jesus Christ Steve! Get out of your head and into your heart. He was a father of three, he was beloved by so many, he did shows for the troops, etc. That first line of yours is a non-starter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I am sorry for him, but I have to say, I never really cared for him. Here is why. He never seemed to break from his crazy person persona. I sometimes saw interviews with him, and I would have liked to see what he was under that personna. Sometimes he would get straight for an instant, and then it was right back to the crazy person role. Did anyone else feel that way? Or maybe I just didn't know enough about him. Reflecting further, and I hope I don't get slammed for this, but you sometimes hear about overweight people, and maybe especially overweight women, assuming the jolly jester persona. I always thought that was sad, and obviously masking unhappiness. I got the same impression from Robin Williams. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Tragic loss. On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:16 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Robin Williams apparently killed himself today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Damn It
Steve - it is Monday. Tough day at work? You are replying to Michael, not Share (smile). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, It is a marvel to me how people who have unlimited means can avoid the trappings of addictions of every sort, substance, gambling, sex. It just seems such an easy trap to fall into,and that is why I guess addiction is so much a part of their lives. I have addictive tendencies myself. If not for my marriage and family, maybe I would be going down one of those paths. This is really apropos to nothing, but I had someone doing some renovation work for me. He was in a six month rehab program at the Salvation Army. Doing well. It came time for him to graduate and he didn't have a place to live. I allowed him to stay in the building next to our business that we are renovating and that where he was doing his work. I had him sign a notarized statement that I could ask him to leave immediately for any reason, along with other stipulations. He lasted about one day before he was started drinking and after one week was getting completely smashed. I had to ask him to leave. What was kind of funny was when I told him he had to leave, all pretense of his trying to remain sober left and at that instant all his drunkenness came out. Before that he was doing a pretty good of appearing straight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Loved Williams years ago on the Mork and Mindy show - I guess my favorite movie was Mrs. Doubtfire. Loved Birdcage too but the other actors stole the show. Williams was an alcoholic and drug addict at various times in his life. He was an incredibly talented man who gave millions tremendous pleasure and laughter. He wanted to play the Riddler in the next Batman movie - man I would have loved to have seen that. As to Steve, he is showing how grand TM makes a person. Friendliness, happiness and compassion anyone? From: dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Damn It Jesus Christ Steve! Get out of your head and into your heart. He was a father of three, he was beloved by so many, he did shows for the troops, etc. That first line of yours is a non-starter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I am sorry for him, but I have to say, I never really cared for him. Here is why. He never seemed to break from his crazy person persona. I sometimes saw interviews with him, and I would have liked to see what he was under that personna. Sometimes he would get straight for an instant, and then it was right back to the crazy person role. Did anyone else feel that way? Or maybe I just didn't know enough about him. Reflecting further, and I hope I don't get slammed for this, but you sometimes hear about overweight people, and maybe especially overweight women, assuming the jolly jester persona. I always thought that was sad, and obviously masking unhappiness. I got the same impression from Robin Williams. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Tragic loss. On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:16 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Robin Williams apparently killed himself today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Damn It
Downturn in his career? What? Stop. Please. Show a little respect. Signing off... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bhairitu, I associate depression with Saturn in a chart. Not sure what the significators of humor are. But it's gotta be there somewhere, and a link between them. From another perspective, I've recently been introduced to a lot of medical thinkers who are taking a very biochemical approach to psychological states. Including how to eat to balance hormones and release neurotransmitters related to positive moods. Since Williams seemed to have a sweet family life, I tend to think it was the downturn in his career that lead him back into addiction. I think such a fall is very hard on a man. May he RIP... On Monday, August 11, 2014 8:55 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The reason some people turn to comedy as a career is to relieve deep depression. As local comic Brian Copeland, who was just interviewed on the radio, quipped, ask 100 comics to raise their hands if they suffer depression. There will be 99 hands raised and one liar. Copeland himself has had recent bouts with depression. On 08/11/2014 06:43 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I read recently that people are unhappiest when they have high expectations. I wonder if Williams fell into this category. His career seemed quite stalled recently and it must be difficult to go from a peak of stardom to occasional bit roles in unremarkable films. I do marvel at stars who seem to lead fairly normal lives and don't get sucked into all the hype. On Monday, August 11, 2014 8:30 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:s3raphita@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re While its impossible to say for sure that it would have prevented it, what if Williams had learned TM during his last visit to a rehab center earlier this year?: TM has a poor record for combating depression. It's good for anxiety - which is a different issue. Given that Robin Williams and Philip Seymour Hoffman had it all but went for the immediate suicide option and the slow-death (heroin) option respectively you have to wonder why people find it so difficult to find peace of mind in our contemporary societies. I strongly suspect it's because we've lost all sense of a shared community (ignoring artificial flag-waving occasions like the Olympics) and the isolation finally becomes too much.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use
How long is long Share? Here's the link. Are you going to the website and reading and then interpreting for the comment that you post or are you relying on your memory of previous reads? Don't answer that! Cardio Workout Can Cause a 7-Fold Surge of Heart Problems http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/06/01/long-cardio-workout-dangers.aspx http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/06/01/long-cardio-workout-dangers.aspx Cardio Workout Can Cause a 7-Fold Surge of Heart Pro... http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/06/01/long-cardio-workout-dangers.aspx You should stop doing long cardio workouts because it can put you at risk of heart problems. View on fitness.mercola.com http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/06/01/long-cardio-workout-dangers.aspx Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bhairitu, another tidbit about aerobic exercise, according to Dr. Mercola, is that it should be done in short bursts rather than long sessions, which actually weaken the heart. Think Jim Fixx, may he RIP. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:17 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The study points out that compared to 25 years ago caloric intake has not increased but we have become more sedentary. So doing more frequent exercise even small amounts will help. I also pointed out exercise does not keep the metabolic rate raised for the rest of the day as previously thought. Apparently you didn't read the study did you? On 07/09/2014 06:04 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Correct about what? Getting up every 15 minutes (as opposed to every 20, for example) to do some kind of exercise? What kind of exercise - a walk around the block; a quick 20 seconds of jumping jacks? The reason I called what Share communicated from Dr. Mercola as bullshit as the statement simply is too ridiculously specific and makes no sense in that regard. Someone told me some time ago that it was every 10 minutes. I also heard every 50 minutes, take a 10 minute break. It has long been out that one of the reasons obesity is on the rise, in kids at least, is lack of exercise and inactivity associated with video games and other electronic media. Guess it applies to adults also. Nothing new there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Furthermore, a recent study by Standord proves Mercola correct. (Where'd the ducks go!). In fact I'm listening to the professor from Standford who conducted this study on local Bay Area Talk910 right now. Here's the news release on the study: http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html On 07/09/2014 09:50 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this forum exhibit the behavior that has been shown to be a greater risk factor for early death than smoking -- inactivity. If you sit for more than eight hours per day, you are medically inactive, and risking death. Have a nice day... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Name that Alien Planet
This is good! Barry, remember always that YOU ARE A SON OF A BITCH! A LITTLE RESPECT, PLEASE! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on FFL But God of War? Oh, my! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Name that Alien Planet From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If we find a solar system with enough planets they could name it after FFL! All we'd need is a serene planet with a glowing atmosphere that bathes the others in clear light - that could be planet Salyavin, ahem, maybe. A bright red God of war type planet could be called Jacksonworld. A swirling blue planet, full of life could be called Turqville. Any small distant world with a wildly eccentric orbit might be good candidate for planet Nabby, but John might want to fight him for the honour. Crop circle on planet Nabby: Willytex seems a reasonable name for that inevitable huge ball of gas with a super-dense core. Lawson might want to claim that rather dry and dusty world that follows an ultra-predictable course through the heavens. Planet Xeno drifts among the others, an ancient world but containing the wisdom collected from a lifetime's wanderings. Jimbo would need to be an odd planet indeed, maybe one who some might think a unique place, full of mystery and desirable for the many travellers in the same orbit. Seasoned astronomers realise there aint nuthin special going on there at all. There are usually small planets that are inhospitable in some way or too indistinguishable to be noticed, some are hostile to life while still others seem to hang around with each other without affecting anything else. I don't know what to call any of those, The Paranoids? Something with 'oids in the name... I can't think of any more just now, add or amend at your pleasure. For obvious reasons, many having to do with self-preservation, you left out the female planets. I couldn't find any images of them, but I did find a comic book dedicated to the group of them: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : The IAU has set some ground rules for organizations that plan to submit names for the competition before the public vote. According to the IAU, the rules are: Names should be 16 characters or less, preferably one word, non-offensive, pronounceable and not too similar to names already assigned to other celestial bodies Groups cannot propose names of pet animals, principally commercial names or names of living people. Additionally, groups cannot propose names of individuals, events or places mainly known for political, military or religious activities. Names cannot be protected by trademark or protected by intellectual property law. Winning names won't replace the scientific designation (the scientific name of the star followed by a letter, for example: Kepler-22b). However, the IAU will recognize the name as a legitimate, publicly used name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : You can now vote in names for the 1700 exoplanets that have been officially discovered. Given that India has many names for various gods, it would seem that many of these exoplanets will be named after the Hindu pantheon. http://news.yahoo.com/name-alien-planet-voters-wanted-christen-strange-worlds-215255502.html http://news.yahoo.com/name-alien-planet-voters-wanted-christen-strange-worlds-215255502.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : The IAU has set some ground rules for organizations that plan to submit names for the competition before the public vote. According to the IAU, the rules are: Names should be 16 characters or less, preferably one word, non-offensive, pronounceable and not too similar to names already assigned to other celestial bodies Groups cannot propose names of pet animals, principally commercial names or names of living people. Additionally, groups cannot propose names of individuals, events or places mainly known for political, military or religious activities. Names cannot be protected by trademark or protected by intellectual property law. Winning names won't replace the scientific designation (the scientific name of the star followed by a letter, for example: Kepler-22b). However, the IAU will recognize the name as a legitimate, publicly used name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : You can now vote in names for the 1700 exoplanets that have been officially discovered. Given that India has many names for various gods, it would seem that many of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Would You Do?
Bhairitu - I'm lurking intermittently right now, however I loved this video - visuals and music. Do you know how to find out who the singer is? Here in Seattle, the kid and I and some friends walked to Gasworks Park for the Fourth and joined the masses for a display on Lake Union. One thing I noted about the crowd was the lighter effect is now achieved through everyone's phones held up to film. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I don't have a quadcopter but I suspect they are easier to fly than the little helicopters (I have one of those) and a model plane. Here's a video taken of 4th of July fireworks from a drone flying through them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9KZ3jgbbmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9KZ3jgbbmI On 07/08/2014 06:40 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep -- I read today that the Natl. Park Service has banned drones in all federal parks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Drones are causing so much problems (especially the little quadcopter ones) that I suspect the gov is going to clamp down on them pretty hard. In New York a police copter almost got hit by one and the drone owners arrested. Don't expect your pizza to get delivered by one anytime soon nor your Amazon shipment. People come up with these ideas on the offhand chance they'll get rich doing it. And it a economically collapsing world trying to get rich is an act of desperation. Here's a game where you can have fun tossing things at a drone and crash it: http://clay.io/game/crashthedrone http://clay.io/game/crashthedrone On 07/08/2014 04:21 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: The next thing already happening are inexpensive drones that automatically follows you from any height navigating via the gps in your phone and videofilming every step you take. Not that I see any practical reason for having one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : What would you do if you saw a drone at your bedroom window? For all the slick technology, there are grave moral and legal questions going unanswered in the government’s use of armed drones to kill people considered terrorist threats. 'Reining In the Drones' http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/07/opinion/reining-in-the-drones.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/07/opinion/reining-in-the-drones.html?_r=0
[FairfieldLife] Re: RFC: Important information You Can Use
This isn't helpful. 2 million either quit or die? What does that mean? How is it useful? Here is a useful tip. For all you smokers out there, read this book if you want to become a non-smoker. Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking: The Easyway To Stop Smoking http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155 http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155 Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking: The Easyway T... http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155 Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking: The Easyway To Stop Smoking [Allen Carr] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Allen Carr's Easy... View on www.amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. On 7/9/2014 8:12 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Your tongue is the only muscle in your body that is attached at only one end. On 7/8/2014 7:34 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Gold is the only metal that doesn't rust, even if it's buried in the ground for thousands of years. On 7/8/2014 2:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It takes glass one million years to decompose, which means it never wears out and can be recycled an infinite amount of times! This is important information you can use. If you can add any more useful important information to this FFL discussion group, you will get money in 5 days. If you fail to post any useful important information, you will not get any money in 5 days. Superstitious or not, this important message is information that is useful, and yes, I have a PayPal account that I am monitoring on a daily basis. Thanks in advance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use
I just can't help myself. This is complete bullshit. Nothing personal Share, don't get me wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this forum exhibit the behavior that has been shown to be a greater risk factor for early death than smoking -- inactivity. If you sit for more than eight hours per day, you are medically inactive, and risking death. Have a nice day... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use
I used to work with a woman who had requested and received a standing desk. It was a pleasure to visit her and stand with her. I don't disagree that it is good to break up long sitting periods with a walk or stretches, or something, is good...like a trip from the TV to the refrigerator and back. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Dr. Mercola is a quack, and a dangerous one. He has ZERO credibility in the legitimate medical community, and many would like to see his license revoked. In this case, his advice (for a change) is actually echoed by many mainstream physicians. The problem is that it appears to be wrong. The latest research seems to indicate that while standing occasionally during the day has some statistical value in reducing the deleterious effects of too much sitting, it doesn't have very much effect. Nor, even more disturbingly, does regular exercise. In fact, studies in which people exercised for 20 hours per week did NOT reverse the negative physiological effects of those same people sitting for more than eight hours per day, or affect their morbidity risk from all causes in any significant way. I write a lot of articles for cardiologists and vein doctors, and these stats scare the shit out of them. All of our toys and our computers and our TVs are literally killing us. Me, I read the research and as a result have a standing desk, and use it about half the time, either while working or while watching movies or entertainment. The rest of you can do whatever you want. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this forum exhibit the behavior that has been shown to be a greater risk factor for early death than smoking -- inactivity. If you sit for more than eight hours per day, you are medically inactive, and risking death. Have a nice day... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use
Correct about what? Getting up every 15 minutes (as opposed to every 20, for example) to do some kind of exercise? What kind of exercise - a walk around the block; a quick 20 seconds of jumping jacks? The reason I called what Share communicated from Dr. Mercola as bullshit as the statement simply is too ridiculously specific and makes no sense in that regard. Someone told me some time ago that it was every 10 minutes. I also heard every 50 minutes, take a 10 minute break. It has long been out that one of the reasons obesity is on the rise, in kids at least, is lack of exercise and inactivity associated with video games and other electronic media. Guess it applies to adults also. Nothing new there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Furthermore, a recent study by Standord proves Mercola correct. (Where'd the ducks go!). In fact I'm listening to the professor from Standford who conducted this study on local Bay Area Talk910 right now. Here's the news release on the study: http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html On 07/09/2014 09:50 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this forum exhibit the behavior that has been shown to be a greater risk factor for early death than smoking -- inactivity. If you sit for more than eight hours per day, you are medically inactive, and risking death. Have a nice day... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TRIBUNE PRINTING BUILDING COLLAPSE
I think Mr. Williams might disagree with you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : It's not like the Tribune Printing building was any kind of beautiful architectural statement, so its collapse is certainly no aesthetic loss to the community. I heard that the entire building will be torn down, so hopefully someone will seize the rare opportunity to make a lasting architectural mark on the downtown area.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important FALSE information that you SHOULDN'T use
I read the article. I do not dispute the use of the term more frequent. I dispute the we should do ___ every 15 minutes... statement. I was primarily disputing using the article as a justification for Share's version of Dr. Mercola's statement, which was grounded in specific advice that we should all follow, not the common sense idea that we should get up and move around throughout the day. Here is an actual article from the Mercola website. Dr. Mercola's article is based on an interview of Dr. Vernikos and her book. His decision to exercise every 20 minutes (not 15) and what type of exercise he does is explained in here. I was always under the impression that exercise kept up the metabolic rate for a couple of hours afterward only, at best. There are so many factors that influence the metabolic rate. Why Sitting Kills While Moving Heals http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/23/vernikos-sitting-kills.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/23/vernikos-sitting-kills.aspx Why Sitting Kills While Moving Heals http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/23/vernikos-sitting-kills.aspx Dr. Joan Vernikos, author of Sitting Kills, Moving Heals, presents a simple yet powerful scientific explanation why sitting may negatively impact your health. View on articles.mercola.com http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/23/vernikos-sitting-kills.aspx Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The study points out that compared to 25 years ago caloric intake has not increased but we have become more sedentary. So doing more frequent exercise even small amounts will help. I also pointed out exercise does not keep the metabolic rate raised for the rest of the day as previously thought. Apparently you didn't read the study did you? On 07/09/2014 06:04 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Correct about what? Getting up every 15 minutes (as opposed to every 20, for example) to do some kind of exercise? What kind of exercise - a walk around the block; a quick 20 seconds of jumping jacks? The reason I called what Share communicated from Dr. Mercola as bullshit as the statement simply is too ridiculously specific and makes no sense in that regard. Someone told me some time ago that it was every 10 minutes. I also heard every 50 minutes, take a 10 minute break. It has long been out that one of the reasons obesity is on the rise, in kids at least, is lack of exercise and inactivity associated with video games and other electronic media. Guess it applies to adults also. Nothing new there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Furthermore, a recent study by Standord proves Mercola correct. (Where'd the ducks go!). In fact I'm listening to the professor from Standford who conducted this study on local Bay Area Talk910 right now. Here's the news release on the study: http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/07/lack-of-exercise--not-diet--linked-to-rise-in-obesity--stanford-.html On 07/09/2014 09:50 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Important information that you SHOULD use, was FALSE
You must be psychic! Squats are what Dr. Mercola tried out every 20 minutes according to the article I just posted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/9/2014 11:50 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fellow sitters, according to Dr. Mercola, we should get up every 15 minutes and do some exercise. This is more important, he says, than exercising 2 or 3 times per week! Plus everyone should be doing a balance of aerobics, stretching and weight training. In terms of maintenance, this vehicle is more work than my car! The squat is one of the best exercises for athletes and the general population. Everyone should be doing some form of squats because they work the whole body, and studies show squatting to increase lower body strength can produce the following benefits. 'Squats Are Safe, But You're Probably Doing Them Wrong' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-rippetoe/squats-lifting-knees_b_4490749.html On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Each year 2,000,000 smokers either quit smoking or die of tobacco-related diseases. I was checking out the FFL web viewer to see if it still worked and saw this complete non-sequitur flash by and the science writer in me just had to comment, for several reasons: 1. The statistic is false -- over 5 million people worldwide die every year from smoking-related diseases. 2. The either quit smoking or... phrase is retarded. Last I checked, anyone who dies quits smoking. :-) 3. According to the respected British medical journal The Lancet, there is a much more critical risk factor for early death that people don't know about. The Lancet researchers call this cause of death a global pandemic, and state clearly that -- worldwide -- it causes far more deaths from all causes every year than smoking. Furthermore, I would imagine that few -- if any -- people on this forum smoke, but most -- if not *all* -- of the people on this forum exhibit the behavior that has been shown to be a greater risk factor for early death than smoking -- inactivity. If you sit for more than eight hours per day, you are medically inactive, and risking death. Have a nice day... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditating has instant effect on reducing stress
It is complicated. It's out of my purview also to tell Share what to do. Sorry Share, I'm not like this in real life. My dark side shows up here. I'm working on it. I've got a ways to go, so I'll be quiet for another stretch of indeterminate length. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/9/2014 12:00 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Share, read his reply *to you*. He wrote back *to you.* Comment on that. What you say below isn't what he said. It sounds complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, belief has nothing to do with it. I'm simply attempting to understand why you think what you wrote to Fleetwood doesn't sound like positive experiences. And why all your experiences are due to being human, etc. Except for your so called negative ones with TM! On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:30 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Like I said, you are so indoctrinated into believing in the good experiences from TM you are as brain dead as Willy Tex when it comes to even trying to comprehend what I wrote. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditating has instant effect on reducing stress Michael, in your post to Fleetwood, your descriptions of your TM experiences (see below) sounded positive to me: waves of bliss on the ocean of bliss; MANY experiences of God Consciousness; Unity. And now you're saying that they weren't good or not good?! Sounds like backtracking to me! You also contradict yourself in another major way: you keep saying that all your experiences with TM and other modalities are just due to being human, being alive, etc. Nonetheless at the end you say that your experiences after TM are more powerful and more fulfilling. Would that also be due to your being human, being alive, etc? IOW, your logic falters when you say that the good from TM was from just you being human, etc. but the so called bad was not from this! Seems like a double standard to me! MJ wrote: I'm not sure exactly what success with TM means. I used my TM mantra and its advanced forms. I used them alone and in groups. I experienced what was referred to as clear transcending, and after a bit of time I felt bliss and silence, sometimes deep silence. At times I felt during the practice of TM rolling waves of bliss on the ocean of bliss, I had many experiences of witnessing during activity, meditation, dreams and with less frequency, sleep. After a couple years I had MANY experiences of God Consciousness, many, many. Some clear as a bell experiences of ritam - having a thought and seeing the object, person, place etc thought of as clear as watching a movie of it/them. And some experiences of Unity, beginning with the odd one of experiencing total with the sound of a fat TM teacher dragging a chair across an indoor/outdoor carpet in a North Carolina hotel as she was exiting the staff group meditation. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:53 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Alright Share, I am going to answer your question, but first I want to preface my remarks by saying that I don't think you and other TM'ers here will be able to accept what I say due to the fact that you are functioning with too many preconceived notions or filters given you by the Movement and its founder. You have a certain way of looking at these things about enlightenment and meditation itself that instantly reroutes anything said about it to another part of your belief system, in effect substituting what Marshy sez for what anyone else tells you. Having said that I will begin by saying that I do not designate the experiences I described during the years I did TM as good or not good. I certainly could. I left out the experiences of unstressing of being utterly spaced out, tremendous experiences of disassociation that many in the Movement would call witnessing, anger and depression and all that jazz that we all chalked up to unstressing. I also did not list the experiences I had after TM with other meditations that included a greater or deeper experiences of transcending and growing awareness of the energy or feeling of what I suppose might be pure awareness all the time in activity, the feeling of the energy of the energy of the universe surrounding me all the time,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Name that Alien Planet
The IAU has set some ground rules for organizations that plan to submit names for the competition before the public vote. According to the IAU, the rules are: Names should be 16 characters or less, preferably one word, non-offensive, pronounceable and not too similar to names already assigned to other celestial bodies Groups cannot propose names of pet animals, principally commercial names or names of living people. Additionally, groups cannot propose names of individuals, events or places mainly known for political, military or religious activities. Names cannot be protected by trademark or protected by intellectual property law. Winning names won't replace the scientific designation (the scientific name of the star followed by a letter, for example: Kepler-22b). However, the IAU will recognize the name as a legitimate, publicly used name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : You can now vote in names for the 1700 exoplanets that have been officially discovered. Given that India has many names for various gods, it would seem that many of these exoplanets will be named after the Hindu pantheon. http://news.yahoo.com/name-alien-planet-voters-wanted-christen-strange-worlds-215255502.html http://news.yahoo.com/name-alien-planet-voters-wanted-christen-strange-worlds-215255502.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
Below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Share, this is a badly simplified and inaccurate understanding of Generativity. I've been reading on it. You might consider the fact (as you are repeating verbatim what you said in an earlier post), that your reduction of this concept to the above statement badly corrupts what it is, in essence. Don't lock in so easily to what you think. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! Share, how do you define younger generation? I was born in the 60's and was a small child living a sheltered existence during that decade - that puts me on the verge of a younger generation. Sal sound like he may also be a youngster. But, no matter, as you have the essence of the term and use of the term generativity incorrect, based on what I've read. And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. How do you know this? Based on what people write here? That's a hella arrogant statement of assumption on your part. In my case, personally (yes, I will share something personal) completely not true in terms of being content (unfortunately, maybe) and the jump in assumption you make tying the concept of being content to not likely to change our opinions is a strange philosophy and reflects your position and how you operate here. Sounds like the formula for living in a dead zone to me. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And, you slam the door shut again. And I'm fine with that. And, one more time for good measure. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true. Express what you think to be *true* all you like, but realize Share, you don't have any idea if it really is *true*. Don't be scared now, I'm not going to reply to any reply you give, as I am taking in the enormity of the resentment you have towards me. I replied to this because of the *repeat* in your verbage, without having obviously explored for yourself what it was you were professing, after your last post of this concept. I found it fascinating to read you stating that you believe negative emotions release dangerous chemicals into the body and yet, your fear and resentments towards me are alive and well and have been for a year or two now. If you'd like me to give you some substantive tips on how to release them, let me know. I might be able to teach *you* something, younger generation that I am - you'd have a daughter my age Share, if you'd been a teenage mom. Don't underestimate the power of the younger generation to inform and educate the older one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Barry! Re: Emily's more of a puzzle, in that she seems to have really, really, really developed her own personal vendetta against Share. It may have *started* with her just following the girls in the Mean Girls Club, but now the opportunity to dump on Share is pretty much the only thing that draws her back to FFL. She's addicted to Judy's playbook, having found it a good fit for herself. And interestingly, she's even more in denial about her real motivations for doing this (hatred) than Judy is. On some level, I think Judy may actually be aware of how insanely vindictive she is; I don't think Emily is, or will ever be. She's in complete denial. SHARE, CHECK OUT THESE LYRICS! HEY, JUST IN CASE YOU ARE CURIOUS, THE KEY TO GETTING OVER RESENTMENT IS MEDITATING ON A WORD THAT STARTS WITH F; KNOW WHAT IT IS? HAVE A GREAT DAY SHARE. LOVE, EM Say What You Need To Say John Mayer Lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWcPu7g2k8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWcPu7g2k8 Say What You Need To Say John Mayer Lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWcPu7g2k8 this time i am going to do the karate kid 2010 View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWcPu7g2k8 Preview by Yahoo Barry! Ah ha ha ha. This is so funny! [Note to self: Do try and figure out why you laugh so hard on this forum; there must be something terribly wrong with you, considering the way you seem to offend certain others with your sense of humor. Try and develop a softer edge; you can do it. You and your ego have the ability to effect change within you! If that doesn't work, try tapping it out! Or, take note of what is written on the website for the Sedona Method (see below) - letting go of feelings is easy for Share! It's working for Share, it might work for you too. She is *not* holding onto fear of you and the assumption you are *mean* based on her own inability to be accountable for her own behavior stemming back to the RWC kerfuffle. She did *not* etch out, on a stone tablet, to be forever referred to as *proof*, her judgment of you (that she apparently took from Barry's playbook) that she *knows* to be *true*, because she thinks it is!] It is not that feelings don’t occasionally appear to be justified. It’s just that feelings are only feelings; feelings are not who we are—and we can easily let them go http://www.sedona.com/sample-of-process.asp. Choosing to let them go frees us to perceive what is actually here, and to act, or refrain from acting, accordingly. This translates into an ability to handle life: to make stronger, clearer choices. It allows you and me to act in ways that support us in achieving our goals and aspirations, as opposed to sabotaging them. I have seen the process of letting go of the emotions grow into an ability to have more money http://www.sedona.com/financial-abundance.asp, better relationships http://www.sedona.com/relationships.asp, more radiant health and physical well-being http://www.sedona.com/health-and-wellness.asp, and an ability to be happy, calm, and focused, no matter what is going on around us. If you've tried mental techniques, you know that it is very difficult to create a change. It requires massive energy and focus. It's a hard thing to do! But releasing operates on the feeling level. It's easy. You can let go of years of mental programs and accumulated feelings in just seconds using the Sedona Method's unique techniques http://www.sedona.com/how-the-sedona-method-is-unique.asp. There are no complicated processes or reprogramming or affirmations to plaster all over your computer-screen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily
Dear Share, what I was actually *doing* was encouraging you to *claim* what works for you and use it to get through the fear and resentment you have towards me and now I understand more fully, towards women in general. It isn't about me - don't kid yourself. (The comment you made back to Empty re: women was very sad and I do believe you believe it. Remember, you are one!) Practice self-love Share and practice doubting your ability to perceive reality correctly. Try on different lenses; don't be confident in your assumptions. Stay open to opposite interpretations. You really don't *know* Share; to the extent that you think you do, you shut yourself off over and over and over. Your comments today to Ann, me, and Fleetfoot indicate the nature of your problem. You are completely impervious to any feedback on yourself; you are completely transparent in this way and you can't see it. Nothing any of us said to you had any effect whatsoever on your being. I was very detached yesterday Share, despite what it looked like and I just stayed open to the feeling I received from you and it was very, very, blank. Look for your heart; search for a connection to your soul. Collecting bits of knowledge in your disorganized mind to later tout out in an effort to sound intelligent is a waste of your golden years. Pray and meditate to God for the ability to give and receive love. It wasn't my intention to hurt your feelings. You do *not* have the *ability* to understand my sense of humor and you misinterpret me completely because you assume that I don't have benign or benevolent intentions. You said it; you believe it. Claim it, feel it, and let it go. I have never wavered once from numerous efforts to get you to have a real conversation with me in whatever format you please and I have no resentment towards you whatsoever. I accept you where you are. I pray for you. If you were solid in your conviction that EFT tapping works, than you wouldn't have been so unnerved by my challenging you to use it. Don't let your fear feed your pattern of avoidance. I will leave you the last word Share. I am leaving FFL for now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, you make fun of my doing tapping. Then you ask me if I do Sedona Method. Why would I answer?! To give you more ammo?! Duh!
[FairfieldLife] Re: War Gardens
Just to pile on...Raunchy, I've read it several times and I will keep it. It transmits the most beautiful feelings and getting your explanation increased the depth of the experience for me. This is publication-worthy (smile). Thank you again for sharing it here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : raunchy, I left you a post several days ago saying I thought this was a really terrific poem, but I can't find it now, so maybe it never appeared. If not, I'll say it again. It uses what my English lit prof in college would have called an economy of means, which she considered a sign of the very best poetry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : I've been following the news from Ukraine. It's a dark and horrible story that turns my world upside down. I thought we were the good guys cheering democracy and defending freedom not the depraved and desperate police state we've become. The days of Orwell have come to pass. Incessant propaganda manufactures an endless Cold War, shrouds us in ignorance and robs us of our humanity. War Gardens Her knees rest lightly upon the garden floor, Tending heirloom seedlings, Seeds saved for starving children, Seeds sequestered from the war. Bloody war. No one told her why missiles pieced the air, Shattered, scattered, terra-cotta pottery, Burnt orange shards, That cradled hope before the planting. Dead before the harvest. Rising from the rubble, Austerity rides on wings of Poverty, Its looting mount, Hegemony, Laughs as jackboot slavery chokes the land. She had expected rain. ~RD http://www.vanishedamericana.com/wwii/war-gardens-for-victory-world-war-ii/attachment/war-gardens-for-victory-poster/ http://www.vanishedamericana.com/wwii/war-gardens-for-victory-world-war-ii/attachment/war-gardens-for-victory-poster/ Global Austerity and the US War Agenda http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk Global Austerity and the US War Agenda http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk In this stage of advanced globalization, banks earnings and corporate profits continue to soar even as real wages continue to plummet. This does not just... View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk Preview by Yahoo http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/ http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mean Girls Club Playbook
Ha ha ha ha. God help me, you are so funny. I love your sense of humour. I do believe you might be *enlightened*, whatever the hell that means. Me, heck with the 7 SOC - I'm looking to go straight to the Unified Field, Brahman, God, the Universewhatever you want to call it. I am learning a lot from my 21 year old; she has way more to teach me than I have to teach her. Yes, I have her back today; she had mine the last several years. It is time. Now, I must go. The 21 year old is here at home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Social butterflies, Xeno, emptybill, and Barry, at a party: why won't anyone talk to us?? bhogis cunts silence I'm leaving me too me too hey there's Share - hey Share, we're leaving me too, boys hey there's Curtis - hey Curtis, we're leaving not me - I'm playin' the blues silence hey guys, maybe we should stay ok ok ok silence this party sucks bhogis cunts tap, tap - tap, tap, tap... silence ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Nice delineation of the MGC I found it, in general, to be an accurate portrait of the behaviors of the various vampiric harpies and satellite contributors to the Mean Girls Club. It's cyclical recurrence is a tribute to the spirit of antagonism inherent in this group's self-identification towards the others they choose to hate. They proly think the Krodha-bhava of the Rasa-Lila affirms their behaviors Carte-blanche. So go to it Harpies! As a mythic pantomime, it's a wonder to behold. For a guy who could never conceive of having a female as a close friend, this rant of yours comes as no surprise. Next you'll be posting some youtube video of yourself bemoaning all those gals that could never quite appreciate your light-hearted wit and uplifting banter. I see now why you call yourself empty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mean Girls Club Playbook
What is it about us women, always wanting to have the last word. Forgive us. Here's a country ditty for you. Whoo Boy! Ya'll take care now. Love, Em Big Rich - Save A Horse [Ride A Cowboy] (Video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA Big Rich - Save A Horse [Ride A Cowboy] (Video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA Watch Big Rich's breakout hit, Save A Horse [Ride A Cowboy]. This song received wide exposure when ESPN featured the song in commercials for it... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks! When I learned my TM mantra, at 21, I was working at a nursing home - graveyard shift (yes it was), and going to school. They had mountains of old Reader's Digests: I am Joe's Esophagus, etc. But also, they ran a feature for decades called, Laughter Is The Best Medicine. Musta rubbed off - even worked for me, as a kid - my big brother would try to beat me up, and instead of fighting, I'd find it funny and start laughing, genuinely, at the absurdity, and he would get so distracted, and unfocused, I'd get away easily. Enjoy the little one's visit! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Ha ha ha ha. God help me, you are so funny. I love your sense of humour. I do believe you might be *enlightened*, whatever the hell that means. Me, heck with the 7 SOC - I'm looking to go straight to the Unified Field, Brahman, God, the Universewhatever you want to call it. I am learning a lot from my 21 year old; she has way more to teach me than I have to teach her. Yes, I have her back today; she had mine the last several years. It is time. Now, I must go. The 21 year old is here at home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Social butterflies, Xeno, emptybill, and Barry, at a party: why won't anyone talk to us?? bhogis cunts silence I'm leaving me too me too hey there's Share - hey Share, we're leaving me too, boys hey there's Curtis - hey Curtis, we're leaving not me - I'm playin' the blues silence hey guys, maybe we should stay ok ok ok silence this party sucks bhogis cunts tap, tap - tap, tap, tap... silence ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Nice delineation of the MGC I found it, in general, to be an accurate portrait of the behaviors of the various vampiric harpies and satellite contributors to the Mean Girls Club. It's cyclical recurrence is a tribute to the spirit of antagonism inherent in this group's self-identification towards the others they choose to hate. They proly think the Krodha-bhava of the Rasa-Lila affirms their behaviors Carte-blanche. So go to it Harpies! As a mythic pantomime, it's a wonder to behold. For a guy who could never conceive of having a female as a close friend, this rant of yours comes as no surprise. Next you'll be posting some youtube video of yourself bemoaning all those gals that could never quite appreciate your light-hearted wit and uplifting banter. I see now why you call yourself empty.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Defending oneself through denial is *not* as positive a way as possible. It's a simple case of someone saying to someone who is yellingYou sound angry. The person respondsI AM NOT ANGRY. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I think she expressed herself clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you get how what you said demonstrated Fleetfoot's point?] She would have to acknowledge that she might be engaging in a negative feeling. Oh no...that is not O.K.! Particularly here on FFL (smile)! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see the nature of your so called enjoyment! Thanks for proving Mac's point. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I enjoy everything I read here, even when I disagree with it. I was noticing your passive aggressive nature, on here, Share, and wanted you to know, as a helpful hint, that your repressed anger leaks out, even when you think you are hiding it. Makes no difference to me, what you do about it, if anything. I won't be holding my breath. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means others think I'm dishonest and avoid me, that's their choice. snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Do you think he knows? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Quite possibly the most magnificent example of projection we will ever see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : All of the above. Uh...below. *Including* envy, given how pantie-twisted he got whenever someone who wouldn't pay attention to him started to get attention themselves. It drove him Up The Wall. His devotees Judy and Ann do this to this day. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narcissistic Personality Disorder These are OK. I would probably add the rest except being envious. This does not however define the degree of each. As I am not a professional in this field, and not knowing Robin personally, just via text on the Internet, a diagnosis would not hold up in court. As you were favourable to him, perhaps certain traits did not arise as in the case of some of us others. In general I found him a bit creepy and insincere. While I disagree with you about many things, such as your attitude on certain subjects, and your mode of argument at times, I would much rather have you at my back than Robin. Especially when you posts are fact finding etc., you seem pretty much on the level, when you are not trying to be 'authentic'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I've highlighted them below, with my comments. Note that my evaluations are based on his participation here. I think a case could be made that he was suffering from NPD during his enlightened period, and he might well even concede that himself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Which three? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : We've seen these before, of course, when Barry has posted them. What would Xeno conclude vis-a-vis Robin on the basis of these symptoms? Having read all his posts here, I would say that at most, three apply to Robin, and even those three to little more of an extent than is characteristic of the ordinary narcissistic traits we all possess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms: Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) However, to what extent he exaggerated his achievements while he was in his enlightened period--before things fell apart--isn't clear. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love Believes that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) Only the first part of this applies (and it may, in fact, be true that he is special and unique, given his history). Requires excessive admiration Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes But no more than some others here (e.g., Barry, Vaj), and generally only to those who expressed hostility toward him (in many cases not even then). Xeno's turn...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Piss-poor nations can now become piss-rich
Hey, three of the seven deadly sins - so hard, being a human being. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Ah, your true colors are showing, finally, Share. That is a really good thing. I can see envy, pride, and anger, all in these two sentences of yours. Unfortunately, your neurotic agenda has masked the accurate meaning of what I wrote to Barry. While you try to use it as an insult against me, you clearly have not read it, carefully. Perhaps you, too, are struggling, with, say, the emotional maturity of an 8 to 10 year old girl, inside a much older woman's body? A question worth asking yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : This has got to be the most ironic post of the month imho, Fleetwood's immature tone accusing turq of being immature! At least turq doesn't claim to be in Brahman! On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:50 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Holy shit - In just one post, you at seventy years old, dropped another *six years*, emotionally, to the age of seven!! poo poo, pee pee, Barry! I'll bet all your infantile jokes about bodily waste go over great with yer roomies, huh? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Actually, although this may at first sound like Ig Nobel Prize research, it's quite a breakthrough: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/06/12/urine-an-ever-flowing-stream-of-fuel-cell-material/#.U5rUgiizlum http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/06/12/urine-an-ever-flowing-stream-of-fuel-cell-material/#.U5rUgiizlum
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Dear Share, I object strenuously to the word ridicule - if you were able to *hear* my tone of voice instead of assuming such a thing, you might be able to realize differently, although, honestly, I believe you would still label me as ridiculing you as you have defined me in negative terms and it is unlikely you will allow a different context to permeate your belief in your righteousness on this point. Once you decide something, you never reconsider. If you did, you might have to admit that you were wrong and that would mean that you might have to question your solid belief in your ability to detect things like tone. It is a very rigid and inflexible way of being - this always assuming you *know*.I believe wholeheartedly in the philosophy that one should be able to laugh at oneself - helps to keep the ego in line for one, helps to promote personal growth for another. I have teased almost everyone on this forum at one time or another, including those now departed (Bob, Ravi, Robin). You are the only one I am aware of (except maybe Curtis and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt) that has internalized something I've said as a true personal slight and then filed it away in your resentment file. I've always said I give it and I can take it. I give you license to practice on me. In my opinion, your inability to laugh at yourself indicates the level of attachment you have to your self-definition. One that needs to be recognized no doubt, but what you don't realize is that there is a huge gap between how you view yourself and how you behave. Posting is a good way to see this, if you could do it. I am human also Share. You hurt my feelings when you dismissed my question and refused to give me even a yes or no answer. It's rude because you did it on purpose. I figured it meant that you were truly afraid of me and I am sorry for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, it's possible that you're sincere when you initially ask a question. But later you use my answers to ridicule, for example: tap tap tap. Then when I defend myself as positively as I can, the double standard of the gang kicks in saying that I'm being nasty but you all are just being playful. I rarely find it worthwhile to engage in such circumstances. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:03 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, do you think Ann was doing all these things when she sincerely asked you why you found Empty's information useful *to you?* Do you think I was also doing all these things when I sincerely asked you if you had done the Sedona Method. You ultimately avoided my question by telling Richard that you don't respond to posts that have a tone that you interpret as trying to start a fight - way to avoid Share. You also avoided Xeno's post and honest question to you. Ah ha ha ha, Share. This avoidance technique is your specialty; I've never seen anyone do it as well as you, except one person. (This is why it is so easy for me to piss you off; I have had a lot of practice with those who avoid themselves). You have helped me to forgive this person and I thank you for that. Sincerely, Emily ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I agree with your strategy and that's what I do. Meaning, I read just about everyone's posts. But if I detect an nitpicking or baiting or hyper negative tone, then I stop reading. I am avoiding Fleetwood's point because I don't agree with his assessment of me. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:14 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non sequitur, Share. You're avoiding fleetwood's point. In answer to your question, though, as fleetwood made clear (when you can), not all your posts have this passive-aggressive, quietly nasty quality. Some may want to read the posts of yours that aren't nasty. Also, many here don't have a problem reading posts that express honest negative emotion. They may even think there is value in knowing what someone really feels. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Share, if *you* are posting and you choose to only post half of yourself, limit your responses to only those that you assume as purely positive, you are by default, promoting a deluded self. It is impossible for some of us to take you seriously when you do this because it comes across strangely sterile in a certain way. Why don't you try to just be yourself - all of yourself - the good, bad, and the ugly and take credit for it all. You are a human being, on the path to enlightenment or not, you are still a human being. What could happen? You might get the respect you so desire. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I didn't and don't deny having any emotion. I questioned the value of expressing it here. I also disagree with various opinions and assessments of me. That is not denial either. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:46 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Defending oneself through denial is *not* as positive a way as possible. It's a simple case of someone saying to someone who is yellingYou sound angry. The person respondsI AM NOT ANGRY. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I think she expressed herself clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you get how what you said demonstrated Fleetfoot's point?] She would have to acknowledge that she might be engaging in a negative feeling. Oh no...that is not O.K.! Particularly here on FFL (smile)! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see the nature of your so called enjoyment! Thanks for proving Mac's point. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I enjoy everything I read here, even when I disagree with it. I was noticing your passive aggressive nature, on here, Share, and wanted you to know, as a helpful hint, that your repressed anger leaks out, even when you think you are hiding it. Makes no difference to me, what you do about it, if anything. I won't be holding my breath. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means others think I'm dishonest and avoid me, that's their choice. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ankle-Biting Hecklers
Re: This certainly appears to be an example of why most men rarely make a women a close friend. Can't trust them. Very funny, emptybill, very funny. You must be hell to be married to. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Amid all the endless ankle-bites, no one has really confessed their motivations in the endless parade of declarations to Share or about her posts. What actual difference does anything she posts or comments about mean to any of the Ladies in this parlor? Is it just about the boredom breaker of going to the back room to gossip about the woman up front. Isn't it just some ongoing entertainment and drama for the members of the MGC? This certainly appears to be an example of why most men rarely make a women a close friend. Can't trust them. I confess this is one reason I have never really become simply a friend with a woman. I have developed an appreciation of the lowest common behavior as a predictor. Unfortunately I have found this scale to be incredibly accurate although I am always pleased when I find that the opposite is true. Sometimes it is - just rarely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Share, you have closed the door on yourself, imho. I am so sorry and I have compassion for you and for me as well. d. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I doubt that anyone here is posting 100% of themselves, which is neither possible nor valuable imo. Nor do I seek the respect of those who don't enjoy my postings. Though I wish them enjoyment here and in their offline lives. On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:20 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, if *you* are posting and you choose to only post half of yourself, limit your responses to only those that you assume as purely positive, you are by default, promoting a deluded self. It is impossible for some of us to take you seriously when you do this because it comes across strangely sterile in a certain way. Why don't you try to just be yourself - all of yourself - the good, bad, and the ugly and take credit for it all. You are a human being, on the path to enlightenment or not, you are still a human being. What could happen? You might get the respect you so desire. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I didn't and don't deny having any emotion. I questioned the value of expressing it here. I also disagree with various opinions and assessments of me. That is not denial either. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:46 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Defending oneself through denial is *not* as positive a way as possible. It's a simple case of someone saying to someone who is yellingYou sound angry. The person respondsI AM NOT ANGRY. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I think she expressed herself clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you get how what you said demonstrated Fleetfoot's point?] She would have to acknowledge that she might be engaging in a negative feeling. Oh no...that is not O.K.! Particularly here on FFL (smile)! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see the nature of your so called enjoyment! Thanks for proving Mac's point. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I enjoy everything I read here, even when I disagree with it. I was noticing your passive aggressive nature, on here, Share, and wanted you to know, as a helpful hint, that your repressed anger leaks out, even when you think you are hiding it. Makes no difference to me, what you do about it, if anything. I won't be holding my breath. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means others think I'm dishonest and avoid me, that's their choice. snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Below ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I didn't and don't deny having any emotion. I questioned the value of expressing it here. I also disagree with various opinions and assessments of me. That is not denial either. C: I find it completely outrageous that Share is choosing what questions she answers and how she expresses herself here. E. You do? I don't. C. Bravo to the committee that is trying to help her see that she is not enough of one thing and too much of another. E. I, for one am not doing that - prove it. C. She should stop resisting the unflattering view of herself that is being offered to her about herself and should accept the higher wisdom of people who post their opinions of her on FFL who do not like her. E. Is what I am saying an unflattering view? I don't dislike Share; I don't have time to maintain such a position towards anyone here. I don't always appreciate her behavior or like how she treats me. C. Share you should be ashamed of yourself for the way people who post here see you through the unflattering lens of unfriendliness. E. Not true at all of me - I have no reason to be unfriendly towards her. I am just availing myself of the opportunity to provide a little personal feedback on her very public posts here, as do we all, if we so choose. C. From now on Miss Missy, I expect you to answer every question posed to you, then accept every criticism sent your way for how you answered it as a fact about yourself that you don't see, but the people who are unfriendly toward you see clearly and with your best interest in mind. E. Share is the one who introduced and touted Lester Levinson and what he says. How did I know she was seemingly too afraid to admit she didn't have any personal experience with the method? She brought it up, for goodness sake. I was curious about it and asked a simple question. Why she brings things up and then appears to be too scared to discuss them is what I was addressing. She dismissed me, so I responded in kind, through humorous dismissal of her dismissal of me, and she reacted negatively to that. Oh well. C. Their contempt for you is a form of good intention toward you, so you must take them seriously and lower you self-esteem accordingly. E. Is this how you interpret my teasing her about her behavior, or you, for yours, for that matter. As being contemptuous? WowI'd better take a good long look at myself and my motivations and intentions...I'll get right on that. I see myself as only benevolent, in case you were wondering. C. I also find it deplorable that you continue to seem unaffected by your critics. You should be cowering before their mighty perspective on you. E. Xeno brought up this point. Share has a teflon coat, no doubt. The issue with teflon isit really doesn't hold up over the long term. Best to go with cast iron. C. Also the blouse you are wearing does not go with those shoes. And your hair could use a little attention from a brush. Stop looking at me funny. You made me do this. E. It's all my fault; I am admittedly excellent at taking the blame for me, for you, for the guy on the street. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:46 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Defending oneself through denial is *not* as positive a way as possible. It's a simple case of someone saying to someone who is yellingYou sound angry. The person respondsI AM NOT ANGRY. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I think she expressed herself clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you get how what you said demonstrated Fleetfoot's point?] She would have to acknowledge that she might be engaging in a negative feeling. Oh no...that is not O.K.! Particularly here on FFL (smile)! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see the nature of your so called enjoyment! Thanks for proving Mac's point. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I enjoy everything I read here, even when I disagree
[FairfieldLife] Re: Forest Academy
Re: I took slavish notes so I have a box full of notebooks. It is super useful for supporting other boxes I am storing. You see, I don't have to know anything about TM or TTC to get a good laugh out of this. Curtis, you were right about me in a certain way; I do amuse myself here and find a lot of what is said very funny. I don't laugh from a place of contempt though - that is completely absurd. I laugh at the human condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : These Forest Academy things were before my time. Were they anything more than just a rounding course? What was special about them? C: They were rounding courses with knowledge themes. The first three were phase one of TTC. (Credit cancelled after the fact later on.) The tapes were chosen around broad themes like creativity. So it was rounding and indoctrination, the perfect pair. We saw a LOT of tapes since we had 3 Forest academies each year. I took slavish notes so I have a box full of notebooks. It is super useful for supporting other boxes I am storing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Ah ha ha ha ha. You see Share, this is very funny to me...tongue-in-cheek, my dear. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : but but but Curtis, we have met! At least I think we have. Didn't we? Weren't we even in a Forest Academy group together approx 40 years ago? How could you forget me, sniff sniff? C: The person who met me in the past is closed off to herself so the you I see you as has never met me. The real you is too afraid to be honest and meet me. I will tell you when you are being you and when you are not being you. I am also incensed that you and I met in the past. It is dishonest to the present because it is different from what is happening in the present. You living in Iowa is another lie you tell yourself. You don't really live there. I will tell you where you really live sometime when you stop being the person you are and become more of the person I see you as. Till then you keep your stuff there. I hate all your stuff. On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:44 AM, curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks, Curtis, I think Friday is perfect for being outrageous and wearing blouses that don't match shoes, etc. Hope you all have a full and happy weekend. PS It's gorgeous here, approx ZERO humidity, yay! C: All I feel from your post are waves of passive aggressive negativity toward me that you are afraid to express honestly. Your faux joy in the weather is an obvious dodge for expressing that you hate my guts and wish I were dead. Well I can tell you that I will not stand for this and hope I can get others to join me in mutual condemnation for you being the way you are. It is NOT OK. YOU are not OK. It is only OK when I say it is OK. OK? One more thing, mismatching clothes is not done on Fridays, it is something honest people do on Mondays, so I caught you in yet another lie. And one more question: why are you resisting my message about how horrible you are as a person? This is another thing about you that is wrong. This is how honest people express themselves to people they have never met. I hope this helps you because I only have your best interest in mind. Also I don't like what you had for breakfast. You had no right to choose that. What did you have for breakfast? On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:24 AM, curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I didn't and don't deny having any emotion. I questioned the value of expressing it here. I also disagree with various opinions and assessments of me. That is not denial either. C: I find it completely outrageous that Share is choosing what questions she answers and how she expresses herself here. Bravo to the committee that is trying to help her see that she is not enough of one thing and too much of another. She should stop resisting the unflattering view of herself that is being offered to her about herself and should accept the higher wisdom of people who post their opinions of her on FFL who do not like her. Share you should be ashamed of yourself for the way people who post here see you through the unflattering lens of unfriendliness. From now on Miss Missy, I expect you to answer every question posed to you, then accept every criticism sent your way for how you answered it as a fact about yourself that you don't see, but the people who are unfriendly toward you see clearly and with your best interest in mind. Their contempt for you is a form of good intention toward you, so you must take them seriously and lower you self-esteem accordingly. I also find it deplorable that you continue to seem unaffected by your critics. You should be cowering before their mighty perspective on you. Also the blouse you are wearing does not go with those shoes. And your hair could use a little attention from a brush. Stop looking at me funny. You made me do this. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:46 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Defending oneself through denial is *not* as positive a way as possible. It's a simple case of someone saying to someone who is yellingYou sound angry. The person respondsI AM NOT ANGRY. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I think she expressed herself clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Share, there is a certain style of communication that happens here and Ann's comment was completely consistent with the manner of post that crosses this forum and was quite humorous to me; if you didn't personalize everything within a rigid framework of negative assumption that the women here are out to get you (you don't do this with any of the men, I note), than you wouldn't misinterpret everything we say! Assume the opposite to every post from us that you interpret negative tone to - that would be a good start to changing your internal experience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote in thread Boko Haran, etc: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Sooo, this post demonstrates tone, and one that's pretty blatant at that. Consequently, I think I did pretty well in responding civilly to you! Plus I actually told you what I found useful about what emptybill posted. GO FIGURE! On Friday, June 13, 2014 12:18 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, another kind of crazy is you allegedly expressing interest in something you said you wouldn't find useful at all! Not for me and I'll tell you why. I had to look up the words Empty used (as you yourself admitted you had to too). Once I got the basic understanding for these words I proceeded to think about how any of this might apply to my life. Not having a deep understanding of these different roads to knowing God I could only base my final conclusion (that these were not useful to me) on having investigated it for myself. I was interested in why you found this useful even before I looked it up because I thought (mistakenly as it turned out) that your answer could clarify what empty was talking about in the first place. But all that happened was that you seemed unwilling to answer my initial question and then started throwing other quotes around that did not speak into your experience. Of course I have to investigate something before I can determine if it is useful to me and that is what I did. However, I still haven't a clue why this is useful to you but, at this point, am highly doubtful you can share this secret with me. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Share, do you think Ann was doing all these things when she sincerely asked you why you found Empty's information useful *to you?* Do you think I was also doing all these things when I sincerely asked you if you had done the Sedona Method. You ultimately avoided my question by telling Richard that you don't respond to posts that have a tone that you interpret as trying to start a fight - way to avoid Share. You also avoided Xeno's post and honest question to you. Ah ha ha ha, Share. This avoidance technique is your specialty; I've never seen anyone do it as well as you, except one person. (This is why it is so easy for me to piss you off; I have had a lot of practice with those who avoid themselves). You have helped me to forgive this person and I thank you for that. Sincerely, Emily It was a weird thing for me. I was also sincerely wondering how empty's post had been useful to Share. First I had to google the terms he used and second I was curious to know how two things like a traditional Indian dance and the emotion of anger was very useful to Share. She wouldn't answer it which is fine except she kept saying she had and yet what ended up happening is what happens every time. Ricky here claims people are abusing Share by trying to engage in a conversation with her! Then she milks this, acting all innocent and hard done by and Ricky keeps enabling and alienating her from the other poster by asserting, continually, that the other poster is ankle biting and hurting Share in some way. It is an amazing process to watch. He loves doing this as much as she loves the attention and the help. It is some kind of crazy, I tell you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I agree with your strategy and that's what I do. Meaning, I read just about everyone's posts. But if I detect an nitpicking or baiting or hyper negative tone, then I stop reading. I am avoiding Fleetwood's point because I don't agree with his assessment of me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Share, you aren't making any sense. Specifics; I have no idea what you are talking about. BY THE WAY SHARE, I LOVE MEN TOO! BARRY IS PARTICULARLY REASONABLE AND FAIR. I LOVE READING BARRY. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, so when I do it, it's nasty, but when your buddies do it, it's just the style here?! Got it. More Double Standard action! And of course I don't get into this kind of exchange with the men. They're reasonable and fair. On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:27 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, there is a certain style of communication that happens here and Ann's comment was completely consistent with the manner of post that crosses this forum and was quite humorous to me; if you didn't personalize everything within a rigid framework of negative assumption that the women here are out to get you (you don't do this with any of the men, I note), than you wouldn't misinterpret everything we say! Assume the opposite to every post from us that you interpret negative tone to - that would be a good start to changing your internal experience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote in thread Boko Haran, etc: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Sooo, this post demonstrates tone, and one that's pretty blatant at that. Consequently, I think I did pretty well in responding civilly to you! Plus I actually told you what I found useful about what emptybill posted. GO FIGURE! On Friday, June 13, 2014 12:18 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, another kind of crazy is you allegedly expressing interest in something you said you wouldn't find useful at all! Not for me and I'll tell you why. I had to look up the words Empty used (as you yourself admitted you had to too). Once I got the basic understanding for these words I proceeded to think about how any of this might apply to my life. Not having a deep understanding of these different roads to knowing God I could only base my final conclusion (that these were not useful to me) on having investigated it for myself. I was interested in why you found this useful even before I looked it up because I thought (mistakenly as it turned out) that your answer could clarify what empty was talking about in the first place. But all that happened was that you seemed unwilling to answer my initial question and then started throwing other quotes around that did not speak into your experience. Of course I have to investigate something before I can determine if it is useful to me and that is what I did. However, I still haven't a clue why this is useful to you but, at this point, am highly doubtful you can share this secret with me. On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Share, do you think Ann was doing all these things when she sincerely asked you why you found Empty's information useful *to you?* Do you think I was also doing all these things when I sincerely asked you if you had done the Sedona Method. You ultimately avoided my question by telling Richard that you don't respond to posts that have a tone that you interpret as trying to start a fight - way to avoid Share. You also avoided Xeno's post and honest question to you. Ah ha ha ha, Share. This avoidance technique is your specialty; I've never seen anyone do it as well as you, except one person. (This is why it is so easy for me to piss you off; I have had a lot of practice with those who avoid themselves). You have helped me to forgive this person and I thank you for that. Sincerely, Emily It was a weird thing for me. I was also sincerely wondering how empty's post had been useful to Share. First I had to google the terms he used and second I was curious to know how two things like a traditional Indian dance and the emotion of anger was very useful to Share. She wouldn't answer it which is fine except she kept saying she had and yet what ended up happening is what happens every time. Ricky here claims people are abusing Share by trying to engage in a conversation with her! Then she milks this, acting all innocent and hard done by and Ricky keeps enabling and alienating her from the other poster by asserting, continually, that the other poster is ankle biting and hurting Share in some way. It is an amazing process to watch. He loves doing this as much as she loves the attention and the help. It is some kind of crazy, I tell you. ---In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Share's Soldiers
Very nice, Fleetfoot. You and raunchy are poet and poetess extraordinaire. smile ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Onward, Share’s soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Ego going on before. Barry, the royal Master, leads against the foe; forward into battle see his banners go! Refrain: Onward, Share’s soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Ego going on before. 2.At the sign of triumph Fleetwood's host doth flee; on then, Share’s soldiers, on to victory! Judy's foundations quiver at the shout of praise; brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise. (Refrain) 3.Like a mighty army moves this church of Sods; brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod. We are not divided, all one body we, one in hope and doctrine, one in charity. (Refrain) 4.Ann and Em may perish, kingdoms rise and wane, but the church of Ego constant will remain. Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail; we have Barry's own promise, and that cannot fail. (Refrain) 5.Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng, blend with ours your voices in the triumph song. Glory, laud, and honor unto Share the Queen, so firm, this through countless ages, makes men and angels…squirm. (Refrain)
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Whooeee Share, like I've said, when you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice. Queenie is back and on a roll. You should be attacking me, not Judy. Me, you just want me to go away. Not my strong point, unfortunately. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I've never pretended to be a pure vessel of positivity. That's your twisted projection. My question is: why do you continue to communicate with so many people who you think are so...whatever, objectionable?! What compels you to attack them over and over? In turq's case, for umpteen years! What deluded mission are you on all the time? You're intelligent enough to know that most people are not going to change. Certainly not because of some harridan on a yahoo group. So what is it that fuels you? What is it that you're trying to accomplish with your life? On Friday, June 13, 2014 3:59 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Right, emptybill and Steve. I knew I'd left somebody out. You couldn't possibly understand why I think the White Knights are so funny. But I do think it's a good thing that you're finally getting some of your spleen out instead of pretending you're a pure vessel of positivity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, as you can see, I'm not at all helpless. And you left out emptybill and Steve. Let's see, according to Ms. Judy Double Standard, when the gang have one of their feeding frenzies it's just friends helping friends. But when these guys give their opinion of what's going on, then it's something for Ms. Double Standard to demean. She says she thinks it's funny. I think she's lying. Mainly to herself. On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:57 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This gathering of the White Knights to defend poor innocent helpless Saint Share is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on FFL. Richard, Curtis, Barry, Feste, Xeno--have I left anyone out? Some of you haven't signed on yet; come on, guys, what's holding you back? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/13/2014 1:35 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com This is hilarious. I see it's open season on Share again. It seems to come round with some regularity, like deer-hunting season. I've nothing to add to Curtis's brilliant post . . . See my post explaining the timing. You are correct about the regularity of it all. Like every day?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Share, do you think Ann was doing all these things when she sincerely asked you why you found Empty's information useful *to you?* Do you think I was also doing all these things when I sincerely asked you if you had done the Sedona Method. You ultimately avoided my question by telling Richard that you don't respond to posts that have a tone that you interpret as trying to start a fight - way to avoid Share. You also avoided Xeno's post and honest question to you. Ah ha ha ha, Share. This avoidance technique is your specialty; I've never seen anyone do it as well as you, except one person. (This is why it is so easy for me to piss you off; I have had a lot of practice with those who avoid themselves). You have helped me to forgive this person and I thank you for that. Sincerely, Emily ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I agree with your strategy and that's what I do. Meaning, I read just about everyone's posts. But if I detect an nitpicking or baiting or hyper negative tone, then I stop reading. I am avoiding Fleetwood's point because I don't agree with his assessment of me. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:14 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Non sequitur, Share. You're avoiding fleetwood's point. In answer to your question, though, as fleetwood made clear (when you can), not all your posts have this passive-aggressive, quietly nasty quality. Some may want to read the posts of yours that aren't nasty. Also, many here don't have a problem reading posts that express honest negative emotion. They may even think there is value in knowing what someone really feels. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means others think I'm dishonest and avoid me, that's their choice. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:33 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: No she doesn't! How the heck would she name herself Oprah, in tribute to Harpo, when it is on her birth certificate? I think you are getting confused by the name of her production company, Harpo, which is Oprah, backwards. I know you avoid confrontation on here, and would rather reveal your emotions in a passive aggressive way, but your spitefulness comes through, anyway. So the question is, Share, would you rather be known as someone who is honest with her feelings, or represses them and then gets quietly nasty, when she can? Looks like you have opted for the second option. Too bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, she calls herself Oprah as a tribute to Harpo Marx. I guess you were barfing, and in color, when that was revealed. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:24 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, Steve, it looks like they've legalized weed in Missouri... :-) No normal person is ever going to understand what you just wrote - like flipping to the middle of a badly written manual on how to pull an engine - way too involved, no context, and no understanding of the terms flung about. Em ain't a TM fool like you and me. Also it is a misnomer to call it Brahman Consciousness. Depending on the perspective of the person yakking about it, Brahman incorporates, or supercedes, consciousness. It is just referred to as Brahman. Why? No fucking clue; why does she call herself, Oprah?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
I don't think she does! [Note: Share, do you get how what you said demonstrated Fleetfoot's point?] She would have to acknowledge that she might be engaging in a negative feeling. Oh no...that is not O.K.! Particularly here on FFL (smile)! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see the nature of your so called enjoyment! Thanks for proving Mac's point. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I enjoy everything I read here, even when I disagree with it. I was noticing your passive aggressive nature, on here, Share, and wanted you to know, as a helpful hint, that your repressed anger leaks out, even when you think you are hiding it. Makes no difference to me, what you do about it, if anything. I won't be holding my breath. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, again, if someone doesn't enjoy my posts, for whatever reason, then why are they even reading them?! On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:37 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, I strongly disagree, Share - You definitely express negative emotions on here, plenty of them. Just not in a straightforward way. Passive aggressively. Repression, or rationalization, doesn't work with that shit. Invariably, the negativity leaks out, and like many who have been admonished for expressing such things, it can be quite an internal battle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I don't see the value of expressing negative emotions here. If that means others think I'm dishonest and avoid me, that's their choice. snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Share, I'm sensing some energy coming through this email. What was the feeling you were experiencing when you wrote it? I think, like Fleetfoot said, that one can disperse energy through emails. To answer your question, I didn't read of the man, just the method. But, sounds to me like he went through a surrender to life and love and God, and a miracle happened, and he wanted to share what he learned. Now, tell me why you refuse to answer my question as to whether you have done the Sedona method. Or, maybe the question is whether or not you practice the principles outlined in the program, if that is an easier question for you. Come on, Sharecourage. I won't bite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Hey, Emily, since you've read all about Sedona Method, tell RD how Lester Levensen was such a *wimp; how docs told him he had a few weeks to live; how he then sequestered himself for 3 months, totally curing himself of what back then was an incurable disease; how he lived for a couple more decades helping thousands of people have richer lives with the Sedona Method. *I'll leave the vulgar, sexist words to RD. On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:25 AM, raunchydog@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Em. So, whatever happened to no pain no gain? Adversity builds character? Take the bull by the horns?Seems to me Sedona Method is for pussies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : No worries for me there Share. I read up on the Sedona Method a bit and I think that Lester Levenson's program is for you! The Sedona Method is a unique http://www.sedona.com/how-the-sedona-method-is-unique.asp, simple, powerful, easy-to-learn and duplicate technique that shows you how to uncover your natural ability to let go of any painful or unwanted feeling in the moment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, to some people claiming to call it like they see it I'd say, don't ever become a major league umpire! On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:33 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/10/2014 12:00 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ah Richard, you are trolling again. Of course I don't want her to leave! I have absolutely no grudge against Share at all. I just call it like I see it when I am moved to do so. It just seems to me like you three are picking on Share. That's what it seems to me. I just call it like I see it. Let's ask Share what she thinks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 10:25 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Share is referring to this post: . https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 Trouble is, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the knowledge emptybill provided that she was thanking him for. He was telling us that the quickest path to God (although not recommended) has been said to be through anger at God: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. Sort of counterintuitive, but I remember a story of some kind about how being consumed with anger toward God makes God more real to the angry person than does simple devotion. Don't know if that has anything to do with what emptybill was talking about, but it does make a certain amount of sense. In Judaism, it's OK, even sometimes desirable, to be angry with God: The Talmud says that a man is not punished for what he says when he is troubled. Life hurts. Sometimes we may need to be unreasonable, sometimes we may need to shout and cry. God wants us to offer Him our wounded souls with all of their “ugly” realities, including our anger. That is a real relationship, and it is the only path to real healing, spiritual or otherwise. http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html I wonder whether the notion that anger can be of great spirtual benefit is what Share has been tap-dancing around. Thanks for the clarification Judy. Now it is more understandable. Also, fascinating concept of anger, extreme anger, being a path toward knowing God. I can see how this could be so in certain situations but I think I would prefer to find a quieter means of getting there. I'm just not that good at holding onto anger or at nurturing it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Hi Raunchy, I am in the camp that believes that adversity builds character and for myself, character building has come with significant pain and there seems to be no way around that for me. I spent my life taking the bull by the horns as I was raised that way...pulling myself up by my bootstrapsbut my perspective is shifting now, as *I* cannot do that anymore, alone.and so, am developing a faith in God and the Universe. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Hi Em. So, whatever happened to no pain no gain? Adversity builds character? Take the bull by the horns?Seems to me Sedona Method is for pussies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : No worries for me there Share. I read up on the Sedona Method a bit and I think that Lester Levenson's program is for you! The Sedona Method is a unique http://www.sedona.com/how-the-sedona-method-is-unique.asp, simple, powerful, easy-to-learn and duplicate technique that shows you how to uncover your natural ability to let go of any painful or unwanted feeling in the moment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, to some people claiming to call it like they see it I'd say, don't ever become a major league umpire! On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:33 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/10/2014 12:00 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ah Richard, you are trolling again. Of course I don't want her to leave! I have absolutely no grudge against Share at all. I just call it like I see it when I am moved to do so. It just seems to me like you three are picking on Share. That's what it seems to me. I just call it like I see it. Let's ask Share what she thinks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 10:25 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Share is referring to this post: . https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 Trouble is, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the knowledge emptybill provided that she was thanking him for. He was telling us that the quickest path to God (although not recommended) has been said to be through anger at God: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. Sort of counterintuitive, but I remember a story of some kind about how being consumed with anger toward God makes God more real to the angry person than does simple devotion. Don't know if that has anything to do with what emptybill was talking about, but it does make a certain amount of sense. In Judaism, it's OK, even sometimes desirable, to be angry with God: The Talmud says that a man is not punished for what he says when he is troubled. Life hurts. Sometimes we may need to be unreasonable, sometimes we may need to shout and cry. God wants us to offer Him our wounded souls with all of their “ugly” realities, including our anger. That is a real relationship, and it is the only path to real healing, spiritual or otherwise. http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html I wonder whether the notion that anger can be of great spirtual benefit is what Share has been tap-dancing around. Thanks for the clarification Judy. Now it is more understandable. Also, fascinating concept of anger, extreme anger, being a path toward knowing God. I can see how this could be so in certain situations but I think I would prefer to find a quieter means of getting there. I'm just not that good at holding onto anger or at nurturing it. Anger doesn't ever feel good to me. So, why does it seem like you're angry at Share most of the time? I can understand why you'd be angry at Barry, but it looks like to me that you and Emily and Judy don't like her and want her to leave the group. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but that's the way it looks to me. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: War Gardens
Raunchy, did you write this? I haven't checked out the videos yet... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : I've been following the news from Ukraine. It's a dark and horrible story that turns my world upside down. I thought we were the good guys cheering democracy and defending freedom not the depraved and desperate police state we've become. The days of Orwell have come to pass. Incessant propaganda manufactures an endless Cold War, shrouds us in ignorance and robs us of our humanity. War Gardens Her knees rest lightly upon the garden floor, Tending heirloom seedlings, Seeds saved for starving children, Seeds sequestered from the war. Bloody war. No one told her why missiles pieced the air, Shattered, scattered, terra-cotta pottery, Burnt orange shards, That cradled hope before the planting. Dead before the harvest. Rising from the rubble, Austerity rides on wings of Poverty, Its looting mount, Hegemony, Laughs as jackboot slavery chokes the land. She had expected rain. ~RD http://www.vanishedamericana.com/wwii/war-gardens-for-victory-world-war-ii/attachment/war-gardens-for-victory-poster/ http://www.vanishedamericana.com/wwii/war-gardens-for-victory-world-war-ii/attachment/war-gardens-for-victory-poster/ Global Austerity and the US War Agenda http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk Global Austerity and the US War Agenda http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk In this stage of advanced globalization, banks earnings and corporate profits continue to soar even as real wages continue to plummet. This does not just... View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/W43wzgLyfSk Preview by Yahoo http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/ http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Re: You guys can't even figure out waking state, huh? LOL Would anyone be willing to define waking state for me as it is discussed on this forum?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
My eyes cracked open and I became conscious of the sound of my daughter's voice asking me if I would write her a check for school. I realized I was alive another day and that light was streaming through the window. I said a little prayer of gratitude and began to wonder if I had the skill set to fix the toilet. What, the moment of waking up is called the waking state? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What happened when you woke up this morning? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: You guys can't even figure out waking state, huh? LOL Would anyone be willing to define waking state for me as it is discussed on this forum?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Thanks! I am in my waking state and must tend to the tasks in front of me today. My flapper valve on the toilet cracked - I believe I am going to purchase a new one and try and fix it if I can figure out how to turn the water off. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No, waking state is what you are experiencing once you wake up until you fall asleep again at the end of the day, or if some other happening occurs, such as an accident that renders you unconscious or otherwise impaired (being drunk perhaps). Waking alternates with sleep and dreaming states. That's all. Spiritual traditions sometimes intimate there are other states of experience that are 'more awake' or different than waking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : My eyes cracked open and I became conscious of the sound of my daughter's voice asking me if I would write her a check for school. I realized I was alive another day and that light was streaming through the window. I said a little prayer of gratitude and began to wonder if I had the skill set to fix the toilet. What, the moment of waking up is called the waking state? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What happened when you woke up this morning? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: You guys can't even figure out waking state, huh? LOL Would anyone be willing to define waking state for me as it is discussed on this forum?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Hm.you know, I am finding I can tune into the silence or quiet within. If I stay connected in that place, which for me lies in the heart, I feel much better throughout the day. Activities like swimming, yoga-like movement, gardening, reading certain things, walking the dog, prayer...support it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : waking state, spans all activity, composed of being up and active, asleep, or dreaming. It is a common state of consciousness. The silence, or sense of buffering, and peacefulness, that comes from deliberate acts for spiritual growth, like yoga, is either absent, or easily upset. The subjective sense of self is largely limited to a body-centric identity. That's waking state, and it has very little to do with what a person does in their life, whether a POTUS, priest, or average joe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: You guys can't even figure out waking state, huh? LOL Would anyone be willing to define waking state for me as it is discussed on this forum?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
True, I was asking about the larger definition as it seems this term is used to denote more than just the hours one's eyelids are open, although that works too. :) To prepare for fixing the toilet, which scares me, I will attempt to find peace of mind listening to this. Have a good day. Chopin - Complete Nocturnes (Brigitte Engerer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdimyyD-ZQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdimyyD-ZQk Chopin - Complete Nocturnes (Brigitte Engerer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdimyyD-ZQk 0:00:00 ➢ Op. 9, No. 1 in B-flat minor 0:05:52 ➢ Op. 9, No. 2 in E-flat major 0:10:28 ➢ Op. 9, No. 3 in B major 0:17:08 ➢ Op. 15, No. 1 in F major 0:22:06 ➢ ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdimyyD-ZQk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Waking state is used to mean both I am awake (rather than sleeping or dreaming) and to refer, as you suggest, to waking/dreaming/sleeping as the totality of one's apperception of consciousness, i.e., not including the transcendent. Emily, I believe, was asking about the second (as it is discussed on this forum), whereas Xeno assumed she was asking about the first. So your response, it seems to me, is more appropriate in this context. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : waking state, spans all activity, composed of being up and active, asleep, or dreaming. It is a common state of consciousness. The silence, or sense of buffering, and peacefulness, that comes from deliberate acts for spiritual growth, like yoga, is either absent, or easily upset. The subjective sense of self is largely limited to a body-centric identity. That's waking state, and it has very little to do with what a person does in their life, whether a POTUS, priest, or average joe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: You guys can't even figure out waking state, huh? LOL Would anyone be willing to define waking state for me as it is discussed on this forum?
[FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
It's go time? Ah ha ha ha. God bless it, Curtis...lighten up! In the context the post was written, where it fell in the conversation, it was obvious to all that were following the exchange that it wasn't written by you. Yes, months later, taken out of context and looked at as a single post, Xeno was confused as to the authorship. Maybe he didn't follow the original exchange. Judy helped put it back into its proper context. How can you possibly be passing judgment on ethical with regards to the creative mode of expression that was being employed here? You put in your word; you could be posting under a pseudonym if you wanted. This isn't corporate america; it's FFL. Chill, deltablues, chill.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : How Xeno could have mistaken Robin's parody of Curtis's view of him for something Curtis had written himself is beyond me, not just because of the obvious irony but because of the marked difference in writing style. C: It might have been because Robin broke the ethics of a board like this and signed my name to something he wrote to make it look as though I wrote it. This confusion was his intention and he must be enjoying a last little unethical FU to me that this has resurfaced. I haven't seen you condemn this deplorable tactic although I did read your list of excuses why he did it. So it got me wondering if you support this tactic of signing other people's name to posts? It seems as if this whole thing was a real hoot for you and since I always enjoy a comedic writing prompt myself I want to understand your position on this clearly. Is what Robin did an unethical tactic since these posts are on the Internet forever and might be read by someone who does not share your fascination with writing styles which is part of your profession...or is this no big deal so no one should get riled up about it? I await your ruling with great interest. J: It's also rather annoying that Xeno would impugn Robin's integrity by claiming he had made a private message public. Robin never did that or would have done it without explicit permission; that alone should have clued Xeno in. C: L'll pearl clutching (nod to Raunchy) huh Judy? How could it be imagined that a person who has broken on of the most fundamental and important rules for a message forum like this,(purposely mis-attibuting authorship for a post} break ANOTHER Internet forum ethical standard? I think Xeno can be forgiven for not making your assumption that he would draw any distinctions between these two ethical courtesies. So was Robin's breach of ethics, (which not only might theoretically lead someone to believe I had written something ,poorly, that I did not but it actually DID happen with Xeno), an unethical breach of the rules that make posting here safe for everyone... or is this no big deal that wouldn't bother you in the least if it happened to you? Theoretically speaking of course. From another post from Judy: Ain't that something? C: Something unethical to be condemned? J: And then Curtis pompously calling Robin an internet troll, when FFL was the only place on the Web that Robin hung out. C: You know if I didn't know that Judy was brand new to web discussion groups, I would think that she was deliberately being misleading about the meaning of internet troll which has nothing to do with how many different forums people display that behavior on. And what psychic ability does Judy involve to know how many other forums Robin posted on, he was on one before FFL that we know of? I think Judy just wanted to call me a name and was making things up. J: Robin had done this to Curtis before, and Curtis became very wroth. But this was Robin's last shot at Curtis, and he figured, Why the hell not? He knew Curtis wouldn't respond, and he was about to leave FFL for good. C: Yes Judy, why the hell not indeed. The reason might be that we rely on people behaving with a certain set of ethics while posting here. The most fundamental one IMO is that care is taken to properly attribute who wrote what. Here we have a case that isn't even close to the line but Judy curiously gives him a pass. And the phrase Robin's last shot at Curtis is as succinct a statement of trollish intentions as I have seen. J: And the line in one of the quoted posts at the end, after quoting one of Curtis's previous expostulations: You came, Curtis. I finally got you to come. So wonderfully crude. Robin was almost never crude on FFL. I laughed myself silly imagining Curtis's reaction. C: My reaction was the same as it was to the many other times Robin tried to use homo-erotic imagery when he was angry with me. I thought it was creepy. It is the same reaction I have to reading your delight in his use of the phrase.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : It's go time? Ah ha ha ha. God bless it, Curtis...lighten up! In the context the post was written, where it fell in the conversation, it was obvious to all that were following the exchange that it wasn't written by you. Yes, months later, taken out of context and looked at as a single post, Xeno was confused as to the authorship. Maybe he didn't follow the original exchange. Judy helped put it back into its proper context. C: Says the person who uses a fake name. Yeah, I should just chill out. E2: Of course I do. This is the internet! The issue with the internet is that everything is saved forever so you cannot control the context. But you have missed my point. Judy has been exposed for using relative grudge based ethics in this case. E2: Really? I thought she was laughing at the absurdity of the ego involved. I don't know what relative grudge based ethics meansdo you mean bias? Or, are you trying to say she is hypocritical? She read the exchange and made a comment.. E:How can you possibly be passing judgment on ethical with regards to the creative mode of expression that was being employed here? You put in your word; you could be posting under a pseudonym if you wanted. This isn't corporate america; it's FFL. C: So you are arguing that because this is not corporate America mis-attributing the authorship of a post should be viewed without any regard for ethical standards? Disappointing. E2: Yes, it mis-attributed the authorshipon purpose *as a form of creative expression.* Similar to, in my mind as watching a comedian on stage doing a sketchSNL does them very well sometimes. C: Ethics is relevant to any human interaction. The fact that you consider this to be a place free of such considerations is disturbing. E2: I didn't say that and it isn't true. My point is that you need to broaden your personal interpretation of the post and view it more objectively. The reason I did not use a pseudonym when I started posting on ALT TM many years ago was that I was criticizing the TM group and was standing behind what I wrote personally. I try to keep my personal and professional lives separate here as best I can but most of that ship has sailed. At the very least I expect people to not consciously post things as if I wrote them. You were never in TM so you can easily take a chill attitude. I have a bit more skin in this game. Presenting my views of Maharishi's teaching is important to me here. Our situation here couldn't be more different. E2: I respect your decision and your reasoning, but you are completely rewriting the context for the post that Robin wrote. Although, if he was going after your ego, he succeeded! E: Chill, deltablues, chill.. C: The obvious delight you take in my discomfort about this situation is a rather wide aperture to view you through. E2: Ah ha ha ha hagood one. I'm not taking you as seriously as you are taking yourself is all - we should all be able to laugh at ourselves, imho. Maybe, you might take a look at that idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : How Xeno could have mistaken Robin's parody of Curtis's view of him for something Curtis had written himself is beyond me, not just because of the obvious irony but because of the marked difference in writing style. C: It might have been because Robin broke the ethics of a board like this and signed my name to something he wrote to make it look as though I wrote it. This confusion was his intention and he must be enjoying a last little unethical FU to me that this has resurfaced. I haven't seen you condemn this deplorable tactic although I did read your list of excuses why he did it. So it got me wondering if you support this tactic of signing other people's name to posts? It seems as if this whole thing was a real hoot for you and since I always enjoy a comedic writing prompt myself I want to understand your position on this clearly. Is what Robin did an unethical tactic since these posts are on the Internet forever and might be read by someone who does not share your fascination with writing styles which is part of your profession...or is this no big deal so no one should get riled up about it? I await your ruling with great interest. J: It's also rather annoying that Xeno would impugn Robin's integrity by claiming he had made a private message public. Robin never did that or would have done it without explicit permission; that alone should have clued Xeno in. C: L'll pearl clutching (nod to Raunchy) huh Judy? How could it be imagined that a person who has broken on of the most fundamental
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
All I did was ask Share if she had done the Sedona Method since she was referring to the guy who developed it and what he says.. That is a yes or no question and I was curious. (To Share: tap it out, baby, tap it out - you don't need to be afraid. Two keystrokes or three keystrokes - that's all.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks for your support. Hope you and Rita are well and happy. Raining the proverbial cats and dogs here. But we needed it so it's all good (-: On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:58 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/10/2014 8:34 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/9/2014 7:58 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann, I have already written an explanation of why I find the rasa/bhava info useful. Do you think Ann doesn't understand that emotions and inner feeling play a large role in our lives, or does she just want to nitpick? Empty was trying to tell her that there is another path to the Godhead - the path of devotional service. It's every bit as valid as the impersonal path. Apparently she didn't understand it. Maybe it's just too complicated for her to understand - or maybe she doesn't want to understand - go figure. You're hilarious. Someone (Share) telling me a post was useful gives me absolutely no insight as to why, it only tells me someone/she finds it so. That is hardly an explanation. Is it an explanation to you for me to say I find this post of yours useful and not tell you why or how it is useful? All you are doing is guessing what Share meant and adding filler and conjecture. You don't know in what way she found empty's mention of the emotion of anger useful. But I was only curious to know what Share found useful, she is not going to spill the beans so movin' on. I just find it strange that she won't back up her statement with any explanation. It's like I'm asking her to tell me her deepest, darkest secret or something. What I find strange is the nitpicking on Share by you, Emily and Judy. It looks like to me that the nitpicking on Share is just plain JELLOSE. I could be wrong about this, but that's what it looks like to me. In fact, it's starting to kind of look like you are becoming a mini-me of Judy. I hope this message has been useful to you. I'm not trying to pick on you, just wondering what it is that makes you guys so intent on picking on Share. Maybe one of you could help us out by explaining this. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughter Yoga Therapy . . .
Yes, I remember watching this when I was a little girl. The very best version, ever. I was terrified! I *love* the facial expressions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The older I get, and the more times I watch this film, the more firmly ensconced it becomes as my favorite film of all time. No other Scrooge I've seen even comes close to Sim's perfection. It justifies his existence on this planet. (Harrison's too, just for that one scene.) My other favorite scene comes a little later, as Scrooge is preparing to make an entrance to his nephew's Christmas party. Unsure of his reception, before he opens the door, he has this wonderful little wordless exchange with the maid who has taken his coat. He glances at her for reassurance, and her expression tells him everything will be fine. It's so understated it's easy to miss, but it knocks me out. Only the British are capable of that kind of magnificent subtlety, IMHO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Oh, start at 2:00. No matter how many times I've watched this scene, it always brings tears to my eyes. Absolutely brilliant acting from Alastair Sim and Kathleen Harrison. The way Sim portrays Scrooge's exhilaration here makes me think Scrooge wakes up from his horrible dreams enlightened. In the part where the two of them are sitting on the stairs, Harrison's A Christmas present...for me? just wipes me out. Dennis and I watch this every Christmas, this version. Alistair is the best Ebeneezer, I love every minute of it every time I see this film. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : http://youtu.be/31TTcjYw0hQ http://youtu.be/31TTcjYw0hQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : . . . with Dr Madan Kataria in Mumbai. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxHGJMy8KFg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxHGJMy8KFg This guy reminds me of Scrooge in the final scenes of the movie when he wakes up to find he is still alive and it is Christmas. Only Alistair Simms does it better. Check it out at 3:50 on the clip. A Christmas Carol -- Scrooge's Transformation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayW4c9aZXyw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayW4c9aZXyw A Christmas Carol -- Scrooge's Transformation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayW4c9aZXyw I'm not the man I was. In the film version of Dicken's classic, A Christmas Carol, starring Alistair Sims, Scrooge wakes transformed after being... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayW4c9aZXyw Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Well, Ann, Share's response makes perfect sense to me. She is very scared of expressing herself, personally. What if someone criticizes or disagrees with her? What will she do then? She might be forced to *feel* a feeling that might not fall into the positive column. I'm not sure she knows how to let go of her resentments, so for her, it is just best to stay in her pseudo-objective mode and dispense the generative wisdom of her knowledge base in a purely impersonal manner, so as to be able to *avoid* anything that might bring one to the surface. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/9/2014 7:58 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann, I have already written an explanation of why I find the rasa/bhava info useful. Do you think Ann doesn't understand that emotions and inner feeling play a large role in our lives, or does she just want to nitpick? Empty was trying to tell her that there is another path to the Godhead - the path of devotional service. It's every bit as valid as the impersonal path. Apparently she didn't understand it. Maybe it's just too complicated for her to understand - or maybe she doesn't want to understand - go figure. You're hilarious. Someone (Share) telling me a post was useful gives me absolutely no insight as to why, it only tells me someone/she finds it so. That is hardly an explanation. Is it an explanation to you for me to say I find this post of yours useful and not tell you why or how it is useful? All you are doing is guessing what Share meant and adding filler and conjecture. You don't know in what way she found empty's mention of the emotion of anger useful. But I was only curious to know what Share found useful, she is not going to spill the beans so movin' on. I just find it strange that she won't back up her statement with any explanation. It's like I'm asking her to tell me her deepest, darkest secret or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Ah Richard, you are trolling again. Of course I don't want her to leave! I have absolutely no grudge against Share at all. I just call it like I see it when I am moved to do so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 10:25 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Share is referring to this post: . https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 Trouble is, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the knowledge emptybill provided that she was thanking him for. He was telling us that the quickest path to God (although not recommended) has been said to be through anger at God: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. Sort of counterintuitive, but I remember a story of some kind about how being consumed with anger toward God makes God more real to the angry person than does simple devotion. Don't know if that has anything to do with what emptybill was talking about, but it does make a certain amount of sense. In Judaism, it's OK, even sometimes desirable, to be angry with God: The Talmud says that a man is not punished for what he says when he is troubled. Life hurts. Sometimes we may need to be unreasonable, sometimes we may need to shout and cry. God wants us to offer Him our wounded souls with all of their “ugly” realities, including our anger. That is a real relationship, and it is the only path to real healing, spiritual or otherwise. http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html I wonder whether the notion that anger can be of great spirtual benefit is what Share has been tap-dancing around. Thanks for the clarification Judy. Now it is more understandable. Also, fascinating concept of anger, extreme anger, being a path toward knowing God. I can see how this could be so in certain situations but I think I would prefer to find a quieter means of getting there. I'm just not that good at holding onto anger or at nurturing it. Anger doesn't ever feel good to me. So, why does it seem like you're angry at Share most of the time? I can understand why you'd be angry at Barry, but it looks like to me that you and Emily and Judy don't like her and want her to leave the group. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but that's the way it looks to me. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Richard, you got that wrong, it's all about Emily. Tee Hee. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 11:53 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, Ann, Share's response makes perfect sense to me. She is very scared of expressing herself, personally. What if someone criticizes or disagrees with her? What will she do then? She might be forced to *feel* a feeling that might not fall into the positive column. I'm not sure she knows how to let go of her resentments, so for her, it is just best to stay in her pseudo-objective mode and dispense the generative wisdom of her knowledge base in a purely impersonal manner, so as to be able to *avoid* anything that might bring one to the surface. So, it's not about picking on Share - it's - it's all about Share. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/9/2014 7:58 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann, I have already written an explanation of why I find the rasa/bhava info useful. Do you think Ann doesn't understand that emotions and inner feeling play a large role in our lives, or does she just want to nitpick? Empty was trying to tell her that there is another path to the Godhead - the path of devotional service. It's every bit as valid as the impersonal path. Apparently she didn't understand it. Maybe it's just too complicated for her to understand - or maybe she doesn't want to understand - go figure. You're hilarious. Someone (Share) telling me a post was useful gives me absolutely no insight as to why, it only tells me someone/she finds it so. That is hardly an explanation. Is it an explanation to you for me to say I find this post of yours useful and not tell you why or how it is useful? All you are doing is guessing what Share meant and adding filler and conjecture. You don't know in what way she found empty's mention of the emotion of anger useful. But I was only curious to know what Share found useful, she is not going to spill the beans so movin' on. I just find it strange that she won't back up her statement with any explanation. It's like I'm asking her to tell me her deepest, darkest secret or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Richard, your bullshit meter is in the red-zone. Detach that electrode from your brain and do something mindful is my suggestion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 11:51 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Um, nonsense. What debaters are you talking about? Robin and I weren't debating each other, nor were Curtis and Robin during their own private exchanges. People who begin to get to know each other on a public forum often want to extend the relationship, whether it has to do with their experiences on the forum or with non-forum-related topics. Not only that, people are often told to take it private when their discussions seem so personal as to be out of context for the forum. This total bullshit - it's all about ganging up on Curtis. It's a trick bouncing off a trick. Curtis isn't falling for it because he knows it's a trick to try and make him look like the trickster because Curtis takes offense at a trick post by Robin insinuating he's a homo. It was a very low trick, very low. And, now you're looking even lower. What Robin did to Curtis was a really nasty and trollish thing to do to. You can smear me all you want to, if that makes you feel superior, but it's just a trick and I know it and now Curtis knows it too. He called you on it - you failed to live up to your own high standards. It's a double standard I've noticed about you for several years now. You've just been outed as a trickster of the highest magnitude. Most of us already knew Robin was one of the greatest tricksters of all time. Nothing tricky about any of it. What you jut posted is a trick. What Robin posted was a trick. Let me rephrase that: Judy and Robin are is a tricksters. And now it looks like you tricked Emily and Ann into some pretty tricky stuff as well. That's what I think. We probably won't ever know the truth of this, but it's not very fair of Robin or Judy, to the group as a whole, to be privately corresponding with their debaters. We don't know how many private emails that were exchanged between Ann, Judy, and Robin. In the past, this kind of private exchange outside a public forum debate was frowned upon. Why? Because it's trickery. The question is, why would Robin feel the need to trick us, when he had an open forum for honest and transparent discussion? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
Check this out, Richard, and get back to me. Piano From Above- RedZone colorful remix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-t2ZObZ9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-t2ZObZ9g Piano From Above- RedZone colorful remix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-t2ZObZ9g this epic redzone remix was made by thesuperamariobros2 when he said it was gonna be colorful, he didnt lie, i like the way the end sounds and how its set up... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-t2ZObZ9g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 11:36 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: All I did was ask Share if she had done the Sedona Method since she was referring to the guy who developed it and what he says.. That is a yes or no question and I was curious. (To Share: tap it out, baby, tap it out - you don't need to be afraid. Two keystrokes or three keystrokes - that's all.) Don't fall for it, Share - it sounds like a trick! It looks like what we've got here is some tricky girls. First, they go for Knapp and Lon P. Stacks, then they go for Barry, then they go for Willytex; then they go for Curtis, Festus, Steve, and Zeno. Next they'll be going for Buck and Rick. Next they will probably be going for Alex. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks for your support. Hope you and Rita are well and happy. Raining the proverbial cats and dogs here. But we needed it so it's all good (-: On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:58 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/10/2014 8:34 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/9/2014 7:58 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ann, I have already written an explanation of why I find the rasa/bhava info useful. Do you think Ann doesn't understand that emotions and inner feeling play a large role in our lives, or does she just want to nitpick? Empty was trying to tell her that there is another path to the Godhead - the path of devotional service. It's every bit as valid as the impersonal path. Apparently she didn't understand it. Maybe it's just too complicated for her to understand - or maybe she doesn't want to understand - go figure. You're hilarious. Someone (Share) telling me a post was useful gives me absolutely no insight as to why, it only tells me someone/she finds it so. That is hardly an explanation. Is it an explanation to you for me to say I find this post of yours useful and not tell you why or how it is useful? All you are doing is guessing what Share meant and adding filler and conjecture. You don't know in what way she found empty's mention of the emotion of anger useful. But I was only curious to know what Share found useful, she is not going to spill the beans so movin' on. I just find it strange that she won't back up her statement with any explanation. It's like I'm asking her to tell me her deepest, darkest secret or something. What I find strange is the nitpicking on Share by you, Emily and Judy. It looks like to me that the nitpicking on Share is just plain JELLOSE. I could be wrong about this, but that's what it looks like to me. In fact, it's starting to kind of look like you are becoming a mini-me of Judy. I hope this message has been useful to you. I'm not trying to pick on you, just wondering what it is that makes you guys so intent on picking on Share. Maybe one of you could help us out by explaining this. Thanks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Gotta scroll down Richardthat's where my reply to Curtis was. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Like. On 6/10/2014 11:28 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote : It's go time? Ah ha ha ha. God bless it, Curtis...lighten up! In the context the post was written, where it fell in the conversation, it was obvious to all that were following the exchange that it wasn't written by you. Yes, months later, taken out of context and looked at as a single post, Xeno was confused as to the authorship. Maybe he didn't follow the original exchange. Judy helped put it back into its proper context. C: Says the person who uses a fake name. Yeah, I should just chill out. E2: Of course I do. This is the internet! The issue with the internet is that everything is saved forever so you cannot control the context. But you have missed my point. Judy has been exposed for using relative grudge based ethics in this case. E2: Really? I thought she was laughing at the absurdity of the ego involved. I don't know what relative grudge based ethics meansdo you mean bias? Or, are you trying to say she is hypocritical? She read the exchange and made a comment.. E:How can you possibly be passing judgment on ethical with regards to the creative mode of expression that was being employed here? You put in your word; you could be posting under a pseudonym if you wanted. This isn't corporate america; it's FFL. C: So you are arguing that because this is not corporate America mis-attributing the authorship of a post should be viewed without any regard for ethical standards? Disappointing. E2: Yes, it mis-attributed the authorshipon purpose *as a form of creative expression.* Similar to, in my mind as watching a comedian on stage doing a sketchSNL does them very well sometimes. C: Ethics is relevant to any human interaction. The fact that you consider this to be a place free of such considerations is disturbing. E2: I didn't say that and it isn't true. My point is that you need to broaden your personal interpretation of the post and view it more objectively. The reason I did not use a pseudonym when I started posting on ALT TM many years ago was that I was criticizing the TM group and was standing behind what I wrote personally. I try to keep my personal and professional lives separate here as best I can but most of that ship has sailed. At the very least I expect people to not consciously post things as if I wrote them. You were never in TM so you can easily take a chill attitude. I have a bit more skin in this game. Presenting my views of Maharishi's teaching is important to me here. Our situation here couldn't be more different. E2: I respect your decision and your reasoning, but you are completely rewriting the context for the post that Robin wrote. Although, if he was going after your ego, he succeeded! E: Chill, deltablues, chill.. C: The obvious delight you take in my discomfort about this situation is a rather wide aperture to view you through. E2: Ah ha ha ha hagood one. I'm not taking you as seriously as you are taking yourself is all - we should all be able to laugh at ourselves, imho. Maybe, you might take a look at that idea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : How Xeno could have mistaken Robin's parody of Curtis's view of him for something Curtis had written himself is beyond me, not just because of the obvious irony but because of the marked difference in writing style. C: It might have been because Robin broke the ethics of a board like this and signed my name to something he wrote to make it look as though I wrote it. This confusion was his intention and he must be enjoying a last little unethical FU to me that this has resurfaced. I haven't seen you condemn this deplorable tactic although I did read your list of excuses why he did it. So it got me wondering if you support this tactic of signing other people's name to posts? It seems as if this whole thing was a real hoot for you and since I always enjoy a comedic writing prompt myself I want to understand your position on this clearly. Is what Robin did an unethical tactic since these posts are on the Internet forever and might be read by
[FairfieldLife] OR high school shooting
This killing was with a semi-automatic, reportedly. So unnecessary, so tragic, so unbearably painful. My heart breaks every time a school shooting occurs, in particular.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
The thing is, it is virtually never appropriate. Are you talking Salvador Daliesque? I'm not seeing the resemblance there - he's not nearly intelligently surreal enough on that front. I do get a kick out of the real estate he checks out and posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If you only take him seriously, when it is appropriate, the rest of the time, his dialogue is a Daliesque(wtf?) sort of wallpaper to FFL. I like it, though it clearly stands on its own. Most of the time, I truly cannot respond to punditster, as it would be like talking to a TV, or painting, or into a very echoey(wtf?) drainage pipe, the kind you can almost stand up, in. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Richard, your bullshit meter is in the red-zone. Detach that electrode from your brain and do something mindful is my suggestion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 11:51 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Um, nonsense. What debaters are you talking about? Robin and I weren't debating each other, nor were Curtis and Robin during their own private exchanges. People who begin to get to know each other on a public forum often want to extend the relationship, whether it has to do with their experiences on the forum or with non-forum-related topics. Not only that, people are often told to take it private when their discussions seem so personal as to be out of context for the forum. This total bullshit - it's all about ganging up on Curtis. It's a trick bouncing off a trick. Curtis isn't falling for it because he knows it's a trick to try and make him look like the trickster because Curtis takes offense at a trick post by Robin insinuating he's a homo. It was a very low trick, very low. And, now you're looking even lower. What Robin did to Curtis was a really nasty and trollish thing to do to. You can smear me all you want to, if that makes you feel superior, but it's just a trick and I know it and now Curtis knows it too. He called you on it - you failed to live up to your own high standards. It's a double standard I've noticed about you for several years now. You've just been outed as a trickster of the highest magnitude. Most of us already knew Robin was one of the greatest tricksters of all time. Nothing tricky about any of it. What you jut posted is a trick. What Robin posted was a trick. Let me rephrase that: Judy and Robin are is a tricksters. And now it looks like you tricked Emily and Ann into some pretty tricky stuff as well. That's what I think. We probably won't ever know the truth of this, but it's not very fair of Robin or Judy, to the group as a whole, to be privately corresponding with their debaters. We don't know how many private emails that were exchanged between Ann, Judy, and Robin. In the past, this kind of private exchange outside a public forum debate was frowned upon. Why? Because it's trickery. The question is, why would Robin feel the need to trick us, when he had an open forum for honest and transparent discussion? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: OR high school shooting
Jon Meis's statement is truly spiritual SPU hero asks that further donations go to victims http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023808049_meisstatementxml.html http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023808049_meisstatementxml.html SPU hero asks that further donations go to victims http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023808049_meisstatementxml.html Jon Meis credited “God’s grace” for his actions in subduing a gunman at Seattle Pacific University and asked that people send any further donations not to him b... View on seattletimes.com http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023808049_meisstatementxml.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : This killing was with a semi-automatic, reportedly. So unnecessary, so tragic, so unbearably painful. My heart breaks every time a school shooting occurs, in particular.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Well, as Curtis saidhis ship has sailed in this regard, with respect to what is posted on FFL. It wasn't obscene; he put in his disclaimer. I remember when I first arrived here, I was in literal shock at what was being posted, period. After almost 20 years in corporate america, communicating in corporate-speak and having recently come off of a project which was so sensitive that no emails were even allowed, I could barely wrap my mind around it all. But, I had never done anything on the internet at all, really. I couldn't believe *you* used the language you did! Does it bother your employers when you swear and resort to name-calling? Do they check on you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com It's go time? Ah ha ha ha. God bless it, Curtis...lighten up! In the context the post was written, where it fell in the conversation, it was obvious to all that were following the exchange that it wasn't written by you. Yes, months later, taken out of context and looked at as a single post, Xeno was confused as to the authorship. As would be many of Curtis' potential employers within school systems in the United States. Do you think they don't Google people offering to do music presentations in their schools? You bet yer ass they do. And if they happen to find a quote signed Curtis while Googling him, they're not going to have the context you claim Judy supplied to help them figure things out. They're not going to follow threads that deeply. What Robin did was particularly egregious because this had all been discussed during his time here. It came up with Ravi, who posted all sorts of lies about Curtis, and was rightfully called on it by first Curtis, and then Rick, who threw his ass off the forum for fucking with another person's reputation the way he did. Another person who had, in fact, requested that he stop doing this. To the best of my memory, Robin knew all this. He *knew* that negative things posted about Curtis or outright lies told about him or *actually claiming to BE him* could harm his career and his income. And he posted what he did ANYWAY. And now Judy finds nothing wrong with this. She finds it at worst mildly unethical, as she continues to spread lies about Curtis herself. The woman's a fuckin' nutcase.
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That is a great visual. You are a pretty funny guy. Save me a lot on whatever property you purchase. Someday, I'll show up with my trailer for a visit. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, the dali guy - not intentional by punditster, either. I am reinventing his output as, performance art, and it works for me, vs. spinning cycles taking it seriously -- Channel ZZ - just sort of comfortably drones on, in the background, like the old shoebox-sized, pink clock radio, my grandmom had. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : The thing is, it is virtually never appropriate. Are you talking Salvador Daliesque? I'm not seeing the resemblance there - he's not nearly intelligently surreal enough on that front. I do get a kick out of the real estate he checks out and posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If you only take him seriously, when it is appropriate, the rest of the time, his dialogue is a Daliesque(wtf?) sort of wallpaper to FFL. I like it, though it clearly stands on its own. Most of the time, I truly cannot respond to punditster, as it would be like talking to a TV, or painting, or into a very echoey(wtf?) drainage pipe, the kind you can almost stand up, in. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Richard, your bullshit meter is in the red-zone. Detach that electrode from your brain and do something mindful is my suggestion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 11:51 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Um, nonsense. What debaters are you talking about? Robin and I weren't debating each other, nor were Curtis and Robin during their own private exchanges. People who begin to get to know each other on a public forum often want to extend the relationship, whether it has to do with their experiences on the forum or with non-forum-related topics. Not only that, people are often told to take it private when their discussions seem so personal as to be out of context for the forum. This total bullshit - it's all about ganging up on Curtis. It's a trick bouncing off a trick. Curtis isn't falling for it because he knows it's a trick to try and make him look like the trickster because Curtis takes offense at a trick post by Robin insinuating he's a homo. It was a very low trick, very low. And, now you're looking even lower. What Robin did to Curtis was a really nasty and trollish thing to do to. You can smear me all you want to, if that makes you feel superior, but it's just a trick and I know it and now Curtis knows it too. He called you on it - you failed to live up to your own high standards. It's a double standard I've noticed about you for several years now. You've just been outed as a trickster of the highest magnitude. Most of us already knew Robin was one of the greatest tricksters of all time. Nothing tricky about any of it. What you jut posted is a trick. What Robin posted was a trick. Let me rephrase that: Judy and Robin are is a tricksters. And now it looks like you tricked Emily and Ann into some pretty tricky stuff as well. That's what I think. We probably won't ever know the truth of this, but it's not very fair of Robin or Judy, to the group as a whole, to be privately corresponding with their debaters. We don't know how many private emails that were exchanged between Ann, Judy, and Robin. In the past, this kind of private exchange outside a public forum debate was frowned upon. Why? Because it's trickery. The question is, why would Robin feel the need to trick us, when he had an open forum for honest and transparent discussion? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen
No worries for me there Share. I read up on the Sedona Method a bit and I think that Lester Levenson's program is for you! The Sedona Method is a unique http://www.sedona.com/how-the-sedona-method-is-unique.asp, simple, powerful, easy-to-learn and duplicate technique that shows you how to uncover your natural ability to let go of any painful or unwanted feeling in the moment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, to some people claiming to call it like they see it I'd say, don't ever become a major league umpire! On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:33 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/10/2014 12:00 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ah Richard, you are trolling again. Of course I don't want her to leave! I have absolutely no grudge against Share at all. I just call it like I see it when I am moved to do so. It just seems to me like you three are picking on Share. That's what it seems to me. I just call it like I see it. Let's ask Share what she thinks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 6/10/2014 10:25 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Share is referring to this post: . https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545 Trouble is, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the knowledge emptybill provided that she was thanking him for. He was telling us that the quickest path to God (although not recommended) has been said to be through anger at God: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. Sort of counterintuitive, but I remember a story of some kind about how being consumed with anger toward God makes God more real to the angry person than does simple devotion. Don't know if that has anything to do with what emptybill was talking about, but it does make a certain amount of sense. In Judaism, it's OK, even sometimes desirable, to be angry with God: The Talmud says that a man is not punished for what he says when he is troubled. Life hurts. Sometimes we may need to be unreasonable, sometimes we may need to shout and cry. God wants us to offer Him our wounded souls with all of their “ugly” realities, including our anger. That is a real relationship, and it is the only path to real healing, spiritual or otherwise. http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Trauma_Anger_and_Confronting_God.html I wonder whether the notion that anger can be of great spirtual benefit is what Share has been tap-dancing around. Thanks for the clarification Judy. Now it is more understandable. Also, fascinating concept of anger, extreme anger, being a path toward knowing God. I can see how this could be so in certain situations but I think I would prefer to find a quieter means of getting there. I'm just not that good at holding onto anger or at nurturing it. Anger doesn't ever feel good to me. So, why does it seem like you're angry at Share most of the time? I can understand why you'd be angry at Barry, but it looks like to me that you and Emily and Judy don't like her and want her to leave the group. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but that's the way it looks to me. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered
Share, have you actually done the Sedona Method? Here is my suggestion. List out the 7 Deadly Sins. Look them all up so you know what they are. Do not *rank* them. Get to work on yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, another perspective on all this that I like comes from Lester Levensen who puts pride at the top of the negative emotions, just above anger and just below courageousness which he believes is the first of the positive emotions. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 9:11 AM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the first things I learned, of course, is how much residual NPD I had in myself, having picked up so much of it from my one-time role models. NPD is contagious. So I set myself a mindfulness task, to try to detect those traits early from then on, and then exercise my free will to try to avoid acting them out. This was almost 20 years ago now, and I'd say that in the time since I've become a bit better at avoiding them. I think this falls into the category of inner work, which in my opinion is one the legs of making progress in one's life, spiritual or otherwise. And really, one of the reason's I like Jim's perspective is that he is one of the few who has consistently mentioned this. For me, the struggle, or maybe the peskiness with ego is something I've dealt with for almost 40 years. And the permutations of ego change over that time, or so it seems to me. I've installed a mental program to keep an eye on it, and work, yes work, to keep it in check.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered
Share, my question was have you actually done the Sedona Method? P.S. Apathy could fall under sloth. Lust, anger, and pride are all on there. More than half, Share. Grief and fear may come into play when you don't deal with the 7 deadly sins - hence my suggestion to you to do just that. :) Pay attention! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, Levensen's list: apathy, grief, fear, lust, anger, pride. At least half of these aren't on the list of 7 deadly sins! On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:29 AM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, have you actually done the Sedona Method? Here is my suggestion. List out the 7 Deadly Sins. Look them all up so you know what they are. Do not *rank* them. Get to work on yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, another perspective on all this that I like comes from Lester Levensen who puts pride at the top of the negative emotions, just above anger and just below courageousness which he believes is the first of the positive emotions. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 9:11 AM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the first things I learned, of course, is how much residual NPD I had in myself, having picked up so much of it from my one-time role models. NPD is contagious. So I set myself a mindfulness task, to try to detect those traits early from then on, and then exercise my free will to try to avoid acting them out. This was almost 20 years ago now, and I'd say that in the time since I've become a bit better at avoiding them. I think this falls into the category of inner work, which in my opinion is one the legs of making progress in one's life, spiritual or otherwise. And really, one of the reason's I like Jim's perspective is that he is one of the few who has consistently mentioned this. For me, the struggle, or maybe the peskiness with ego is something I've dealt with for almost 40 years. And the permutations of ego change over that time, or so it seems to me. I've installed a mental program to keep an eye on it, and work, yes work, to keep it in check.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry can't handle the truth (was Re: Why I am not fond of the word 'truth')
Share, I am LOL right now! Want to laugh with me? When I posted this very song to you; you replied with a comment that...Jazz was not one of the genres you appreciate. Then, when I tied it to your favorite movie and the minions, you told me you didn't recall hearing it during the movie. Now, sweetie, you are posting it yourself! You must have got over your aversion to Jazz and the memory blank you were suffering. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : No, no, Fleetwood, I'm happy if you're happy (-: HAPPY - Pharrell Williams (feat. Minions) | 2014 Official [HQ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWDb2TBYDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWDb2TBYDg HAPPY - Pharrell Williams (feat. Minions) | 2014 Officia... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWDb2TBYDg View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWDb2TBYDg; class=ygrps-yiv-1673207486link-enhancr-card-url ygrps-yiv-1673207486link-enhancr-element Preview by Yahoo On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:39 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: If you're happy, I'm happy.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nope, Fleetwood, I didn't think it was lame. I just figured it was something I hadn't run across before, given that I don't get out much, live in the midwest, etc. (-: On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:52 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I know...lame, right? I was trying for anything flattering, as a way of paying myself a compliment, through you, based on your comment that you take Barry's comments, as a reflection of him, vs. you. And as we all know, once you have to explain a joke, no matter how clever it may have been, it now automatically kinda sucks, so...:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I have no idea what this *bank account* comment means... On Saturday, June 7, 2014 10:51 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG! - You have the biggest, um, *bank account*, I've ever seen! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, Ann and Fleetwood, it's not complicated. Whatever turq says to and or about me, I take it as a reflection of him rather than of me. On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:59 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now that we both remember Barry, I, personally, refer to such echoes, as, disturbing memories, but it is pretty clear that being treated like that, does not bother you. Nonetheless, I still find it tough to give up, completely, on your dignity, Share. Keep convincing me, though, if you must, but it doesn't come naturally for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : So many echoes of one little moment in time... On Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:47 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The guy who told you to shut the fuck up, remember, Share?? and you kinda liked it?? THAT Barry. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Who's Barry? (-: On Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:43 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: oh c'mon, you Big Barry Booster, you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Plus, Jack Nicholson was not in Top Gun. On Saturday, June 7, 2014 8:41 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, thanks - point still stands. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : A Few Good Men, not Top Gun. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You remember the phrase from Top Gun, from Jack Nicholson, kiddo? You can't handle the truth. Very appropriate for you. See, Barry, a person who avoids the truth, as you do, relative or absolute, thinks he has a free pass with life, that consequences just don't apply to him. But it is a fantasy, as is this essay of yours. Your are like a timid child, who after being frightened, makes sweeping judgments on a host of subjects, to avoid being frightened again. I am all for challenging dogma, its just that I continue to find truth beyond it, whereas you are satisfied to pronounce it so, and close your mind to other possibilities. Also, If you were more open-minded, you would be a much, much better writer, than you are. Being as predictable as you are, your stuff is like a B Movie, where the conclusion is accurately predicted, two minutes into watching.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered
I know...like *right?* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Like. On 6/8/2014 11:44 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry can't handle the truth (was Re: Why I am not fond of the word 'truth')
Good girl. Now, are you in too much fear to answer the question I asked you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, imho, LOLing is a good thing! I'm laughing too...at my changeable self, unfathomable, mysterious, etc. Maybe lines on water, lines on air. I was even clapping along! Go figure! On Sun, 6/8/14, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry can't handle the truth (was Re: Why I am not fond of the word 'truth') To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 8, 2014, 12:10 PM Share, I am LOL right now! Want to laugh with me? When I posted this very song to you; you replied with a comment that...Jazz was not one of the genres you appreciate. Then, when I tied it to your favorite movie and the minions, you told me you didn't recall hearing it during the movie. Now, sweetie, you are posting it yourself! You must have got over your aversion to Jazz and the memory blank you were suffering. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : No, no, Fleetwood, I'm happy if you're happy (-:HAPPY - Pharrell Williams (feat. Minions) | 2014 Official [HQ] HAPPY - Pharrell Williams (feat. Minions) | 2014 Officia...View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:39 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: If you're happy, I'm happy.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nope, Fleetwood, I didn't think it was lame. I just figured it was something I hadn't run across before, given that I don't get out much, live in the midwest, etc. (-: On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:52 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I know...lame, right? I was trying for anything flattering, as a way of paying myself a compliment, through you, based on your comment that you take Barry's comments, as a reflection of him, vs. you. And as we all know, once you have to explain a joke, no matter how clever it may have been, it now automatically kinda sucks, so...:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I have no idea what this *bank account* comment means... On Saturday, June 7, 2014 10:51 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG! - You have the biggest, um, *bank account*, I've ever seen! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, Ann and Fleetwood, it's not complicated. Whatever turq says to and or about me, I take it as a reflection of him rather than of me. On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:59 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now that we both remember Barry, I, personally, refer to such echoes, as, disturbing memories, but it is pretty clear that being treated like that, does not bother you. Nonetheless, I still find it tough to give up, completely, on your dignity, Share. Keep convincing me, though, if you must, but it doesn't come naturally for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : So many echoes of one little moment in time... On Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:47 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The guy who told you to shut the fuck up, remember, Share?? and you kinda liked it?? THAT Barry. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Who's Barry? (-: On Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:43 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: oh c'mon, you Big Barry Booster, you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Plus, Jack Nicholson was not in Top Gun. On Saturday, June 7, 2014 8:41 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, thanks - point still stands. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : A Few Good Men, not Top Gun. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: One thing you've gotta say for FFL...
http://thewackytacky.blogspot.com/2011/11/blue-skies.html http://thewackytacky.blogspot.com/2011/11/blue-skies.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sort of - those are RV parks. This one, a trailer park, people actually live here, long-term, in manufactured homes (pre-fab), trailers, or RVs, and don't move them, except to arrive, or leave. A neighborhood, only the lots are very small. Some of the trailer parks are nice, and some are sketchy. This one is very modest, but comfortable, safe, and friendly. Barry has probably been informed in his vast knowledge of trailer parks, by his usual medium of truth and knowledge, TV, and the movies. I cannot think of a single show or film, that depicts trailer parks as anything but sleazy. Barry needs to get out more, into the real world. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Reduced to living in a trailer park is amusing, given that doing so is the fulfillment of a dream for many retired people these days--and not because they can't afford anything else, but because it gives them a new freedom, no longer tied to a house, able to travel wherever and whenever they want. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Oh, Barry - really?? I love my life - The 82 year old guy living next to me is one of the sweetest people I have met - far nicer, and wiser, than you. There is no one in this park as mean, stupid, or as wretched in spirit, as you are. I am thinking of extending my time here, since it will take a while to find our dream home. Mansions can be had, and my agent wanted to show me one that was 4,200 square feet, on 11 acres of lake front property. But, that is simply too much to maintain, as a home that will no doubt see me grow even older, and in poorer physical shape, than you are. I can send you my real estate listings if you like. Or you can just enjoy your fantasy, and remain uninformed. Either way is fine with me. Please let me know. In the meantime I'll just sit around, all ENLIGHTENED, and all, and watch my desires fulfill themselves. You? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ...is that it's got the only example on the Internet of Enlightened Trailer Trash. :-) :-) :-) I mean, think about it. Most old guys -- after a lifetime of non-achievement, in the middle of a post-retirement life crisis, and reduced to living in a trailer park -- would kinda shut up about it and not try to attract attention to themselves. We've got a guy in that situation who instead decided to declare himself enlightened, while simultaneously bragging about his ability to fulfill all of his desires. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada
Yes, pepper spray took down the would be mass murderer. He carries it with him always, according to the article in the paper. A good argument for stronger gun control. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I totally agree that everyone should be able to protect themselves and others. I think we only disagree about the role of guns in that scenario. Thank you for dialoguing with me about it. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:58 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/8/2014 7:10 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, see, a person can be a true hero even without carrying a gun (-: The point is, he fought back saving the lives of countless people. Pepper spray is a weapon. Everyone should be able to protect themselves, their family and their neighbors from life-threatening aggression. It's a civic duty, just like voting.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada
He was a hall monitor. The fact that he carried pepper spray on him was a personal decision, not related to his hall monitor job. The seemingly accepted societal and personal belief system that violence is the answer to conflict and one's internal rage - mentally unbalanced or not - is the problem. In terms of operational methods - gun control in its current form is a joke. This shooter had a lot more in his background than seeing a guidance counselor. Driver's licenses are already tagged in different ways and monitored - society could start there. Guns in urban areas are unnecessary, imho. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/8/2014 12:43 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, pepper spray took down the would be mass murderer. He carries it with him always, according to the article in the paper. A good argument for stronger gun control. Apparently the hero was on security duty. I'm not against gun control - which we already have. The problem isn't gun ownership by citizens in good standing, but how we keep guns out of the hands of the mentally imbalanced. In order to do that effectively, we'd have to have a national registry of everyone who ever visited a guidance counselor and got a referral to see a shrink. It's complicated. First, they come for the mentally imbalanced; then they come for the retarded and lame; then they come for anyone that acts or looks different.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Now this *is* funny, so very, very, funny. Robin's first post is hilarious, Xeno's post assuming the letter *was* from Curtis and Barry's response to Xeno.ah ha ha haGod this is funny. I'm going to go do some meditative lawn mowing now and thank you Judy! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Oh, dear. Xeno could hardly have gotten this more badly wrong. Curtis's comment to Robin pretty much sums it up for me as far as Robin: curtisdeltablues [to Robin, part of a private post to Robin that Robin posted on FFL) 'The moment someone opposes you, you start to analyze their inner motivation (For not collapsing their different POV, and folding into you own...)'. Not only was the above quote not part of a private post to Robin [from Curtis] that Robin posted in FFL, it was not written by Curtis at all. Robin wrote it, imitating Curtis. Have another look: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340461 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340461 It was Robin's next-to-last post here, made April 2013. Here's Curtis's response: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340464 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340464 Xeno might also wish to read the context of the post by clicking Show message history, which quotes the last few posts in the exchange. Xeno should probably rethink and rewrite his post given his mistake. For now, I'll just point out that Robin's long-running feud with Curtis was by no means typical of Robin's approach here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Silent Beach Party
Unfortunately, most of them couldn't hear, because they had headphones on, listening to recorded sounds of a beach party. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I heard there was an anti-mime, there, too, loudly explaining the Silent Beach Party concept, to the silent party-goers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Were they all wearing little tags that said Silence? On Sunday, June 8, 2014 4:27 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While eating my cheeseburger for lunch at a diner near the beach, the cook told me that there was a silent party at the beach. Being curious of this event, I soon finished my food and headed out to the beach riding my bike. When I got to the beach front, I saw about a thousand people gathered on the sand. One girl, with a blue-colored hair and wearing a bikini, was dancing in silence. Another girl, in a black harem outfit, was boogieng her boody to an apparent silent music. Most of the people there were wearing headphones and enjoying a nice afternoon under an overcast sky. A couple, a few yards away from the crowd, were making giant soap bubbles with two sticks and a rope in between them. As the gentle wind blew, the bubbles with irridescent outlines would form and fly off onto the wind. The kids would run and try to catch the bubbles as they flew off. Even a black dog got caught in the moment and started chasing the bubbles as they sped off to a nearby hill. As this scene continued, a fog horn from a ship near the shore would sound off as it approached the Golden Gate Bridge. Reminiscent of a movie scene, a flock of seagulls appeared from the mist and flew above the beach. And, the party goers danced off in silence...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celibacy and kaivalya??
This description considers them separate, reflective of a dualistic philosophy.
In the Samkhya tradition there is purusha and there is prakriti, and these
two are as separate as the clockmaker and the clock. Purusha is the soul, the
Self, pure consciousness, and the only source of consciousness. The word
literally means man. Prakriti is that which is created. It is nature in all
her aspects. Prakriti literally means creatrix, the female creative energy.
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti Samkhya and the Classical Yoga of the Yoga Sutras are
dualistic philosophies. Very few yoga teachers today realize this.
View on www.yinyoga.com http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I still disagree with you about this alleged separation of Purusha
and Prakriti being the ultimate goal of yoga. Maybe it's a temporary goal but I
think the ultimate goal is to realize that Purusha IS Prakriti. Even in this
quote, the word power I think, refers to Prakriti. So the quote is saying that
Prakriti settles into Purusha.
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:12 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
The goal of Raja yoga is kaivalya (isolation) of the Purusha from the prakriti.
Or, to look from another angle, the power of pure consciousness settles in
its own pure nature. — Kaivalya Pada: Sutra 35.
On 6/1/2014 4:27 PM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Wikipedia:
The English word celibacy derives from the Latin caelibatus, state of being
unmarried, from Latin caelebs, meaning unmarried. This word derives from two
Proto-Indo-European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language
stems, *kaiwelo- alone and *lib(h)s- living.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy#cite_note-7
kaivalya n. (fr. %{ke4vala}) , isolation Va1m. ; absolute unity Veda7ntas.
BhP. ; perfect isolation , abstraction , detachment from all other connections
, detachment of the soul from matter or further transmigrations , beatitude
MBh. KapS. Sa1m2khyak. c. ; for %{vaikalya} Ra1jat. vii , 1149 ; (mf(%{A})n.)
leading to eternal happiness or emancipation MBh. xiii , 1101.
kevala , f. {I} (later {A}) exclusive, belonging only to (gen. or dat.);
alone, simple, pure, mere; whole, entire, each, all. --- n. adv. only. {na
kevalam} -- {api} not only--but also.
But can celibacy make one feel sick, especially around the prostata?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Celibacy and kaivalya??
I don't know enough to disagree. I didn't know what either were so looked them
up out of curiosity. Your belief is consistent with a non-dual paradigm. On
these sacred pictures, which half is male and which half is female?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Beautiful photo, Emily and to Richard too, this dualism is certainly true of
one level of reality. But I'll go with Maharishi on this and he has explained
that even in every cell of our body, at the deepest level, Purusha IS Prakriti.
This is sometimes depicted by those sacred pictures from India in which one
half of the body is male and one half is female.
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:28 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
This description considers them separate, reflective of a dualistic
philosophy.
In the Samkhya tradition there is purusha and there is prakriti, and these
two are as separate as the clockmaker and the clock. Purusha is the soul, the
Self, pure consciousness, and the only source of consciousness. The word
literally means man. Prakriti is that which is created. It is nature in all
her aspects. Prakriti literally means creatrix, the female creative energy.
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti Samkhya and the Classical Yoga of the Yoga Sutras are
dualistic philosophies. Very few yoga teachers today realize this.
View on www.yinyoga.com
Preview by Yahoo
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I still disagree with you about this alleged separation of Purusha
and Prakriti being the ultimate goal of yoga. Maybe it's a temporary goal but I
think the ultimate goal is to realize that Purusha IS Prakriti. Even in this
quote, the word power I think, refers to Prakriti. So the quote is saying that
Prakriti settles into Purusha.
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:12 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
The goal of Raja yoga is kaivalya (isolation) of the Purusha from the prakriti.
Or, to look from another angle, the power of pure consciousness settles in
its own pure nature. — Kaivalya Pada: Sutra 35.
On 6/1/2014 4:27 PM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Wikipedia:
The English word celibacy derives from the Latin caelibatus, state of being
unmarried, from Latin caelebs, meaning unmarried. This word derives from two
Proto-Indo-European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language
stems, *kaiwelo- alone and *lib(h)s- living.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy#cite_note-7
kaivalya n. (fr. %{ke4vala}) , isolation Va1m. ; absolute unity Veda7ntas.
BhP. ; perfect isolation , abstraction , detachment from all other connections
, detachment of the soul from matter or further transmigrations , beatitude
MBh. KapS. Sa1m2khyak. c. ; for %{vaikalya} Ra1jat. vii , 1149 ; (mf(%{A})n.)
leading to eternal happiness or emancipation MBh. xiii , 1101.
kevala , f. {I} (later {A}) exclusive, belonging only to (gen. or dat.);
alone, simple, pure, mere; whole, entire, each, all. --- n. adv. only. {na
kevalam} -- {api} not only--but also.
But can celibacy make one feel sick, especially around the prostata?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Why white belt should be the highest rank in martial arts
I thought it might be cribbed too, but couldn't find it. Richard! Be honest! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Hate to say it, but a lot of what he wrote was cribbed from an Amazon reader review of a book on karate: http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Karate-Randall-Bassett/dp/0446781649 http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Karate-Randall-Bassett/dp/0446781649 Check out the review by H. Asbury. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Succinctly and beautifully written, Richard, thank you. On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:52 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/1/2014 9:49 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: For those of you who never studied martial arts, a white belt is the rank you are given as a beginner. A white belt is the belt you get when you buy a karate uniform. The first class I attended was when my parents were stationed in Japan in 1959 in the USAF. What is important in martial arts isn't the clothing you wear or your rank at a dojo - what is important is self control which begins in the mind. An effective self defense is greatly a function of our awareness of the surroundings in the outside world; our ability to control the content of our mind under stress; and our ability to remove ourselves as a target by our behavior and mindset. Most instructors only give lip service to mental preparation such as meditation and spend more time discussing physical tactics. Self defense is as much mental as physical. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celibacy and kaivalya??
You can post the link, right? I was just teasing...:)
This guy who developed Yin Yoga, Bernie Clark, is pretty funny.
The union of purusha and prakriti was a horrible mistake. This unfortunate
marriage should never have happened. The only remedy: a fast and thorough
divorce! Like Brer Rabbit, the only way to be freed from the Tar Baby is to be
thrown into the briar patch where we can scrape off prakriti and finally free
ourselves. The briar patch is the practice of yoga.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Emily if you google on ShivaShakti, you'll get some images which I don't know
how to post. Male on right...
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:50 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I don't know enough to disagree. I didn't know what either were so looked
them up out of curiosity. Your belief is consistent with a non-dual
paradigm. On these sacred pictures, which half is male and which half is
female?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Beautiful photo, Emily and to Richard too, this dualism is certainly true of
one level of reality. But I'll go with Maharishi on this and he has explained
that even in every cell of our body, at the deepest level, Purusha IS Prakriti.
This is sometimes depicted by those sacred pictures from India in which one
half of the body is male and one half is female.
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:28 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
This description considers them separate, reflective of a dualistic
philosophy.
In the Samkhya tradition there is purusha and there is prakriti, and these
two are as separate as the clockmaker and the clock. Purusha is the soul, the
Self, pure consciousness, and the only source of consciousness. The word
literally means man. Prakriti is that which is created. It is nature in all
her aspects. Prakriti literally means creatrix, the female creative energy.
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
Purusha Prakriti Samkhya and the Classical Yoga of the Yoga Sutras are
dualistic philosophies. Very few yoga teachers today realize this.
View on www.yinyoga.com http://www.yinyoga.com/ys1_4.1.1_purusha_prakriti.php
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I still disagree with you about this alleged separation of Purusha
and Prakriti being the ultimate goal of yoga. Maybe it's a temporary goal but I
think the ultimate goal is to realize that Purusha IS Prakriti. Even in this
quote, the word power I think, refers to Prakriti. So the quote is saying that
Prakriti settles into Purusha.
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:12 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
The goal of Raja yoga is kaivalya (isolation) of the Purusha from the prakriti.
Or, to look from another angle, the power of pure consciousness settles in
its own pure nature. — Kaivalya Pada: Sutra 35.
On 6/1/2014 4:27 PM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Wikipedia:
The English word celibacy derives from the Latin caelibatus, state of being
unmarried, from Latin caelebs, meaning unmarried. This word derives from two
Proto-Indo-European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language
stems, *kaiwelo- alone and *lib(h)s- living.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy#cite_note-7
kaivalya n. (fr. %{ke4vala}) , isolation Va1m. ; absolute unity Veda7ntas.
BhP. ; perfect isolation , abstraction , detachment from all other connections
, detachment of the soul from matter or further transmigrations , beatitude
MBh. KapS. Sa1m2khyak. c. ; for %{vaikalya} Ra1jat. vii , 1149 ; (mf(%{A})n.)
leading to eternal happiness or emancipation MBh. xiii , 1101.
kevala , f. {I} (later {A}) exclusive, belonging only to (gen. or dat.);
alone, simple, pure, mere; whole, entire, each, all. --- n. adv. only. {na
kevalam} -- {api} not only--but also.
But can celibacy make one feel sick, especially around the prostata?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Why white belt should be the highest rank in martial arts
Now Share knows who to attribute to her opinion that it was succinctly and beautifully written. smile ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Sad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I thought it might be cribbed too, but couldn't find it. Richard! Be honest! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Hate to say it, but a lot of what he wrote was cribbed from an Amazon reader review of a book on karate: http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Karate-Randall-Bassett/dp/0446781649 http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Karate-Randall-Bassett/dp/0446781649 Check out the review by H. Asbury. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Succinctly and beautifully written, Richard, thank you. On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:52 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/1/2014 9:49 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: For those of you who never studied martial arts, a white belt is the rank you are given as a beginner. A white belt is the belt you get when you buy a karate uniform. The first class I attended was when my parents were stationed in Japan in 1959 in the USAF. What is important in martial arts isn't the clothing you wear or your rank at a dojo - what is important is self control which begins in the mind. An effective self defense is greatly a function of our awareness of the surroundings in the outside world; our ability to control the content of our mind under stress; and our ability to remove ourselves as a target by our behavior and mindset. Most instructors only give lip service to mental preparation such as meditation and spend more time discussing physical tactics. Self defense is as much mental as physical. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Script
Don't kid yourself Share. What you've just spouted is all surface bullshit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : What turq is calling holding court psychologists Erickson and Piaget called generativity, the passing on of one's experience based wisdom to the next generation. It's considered a natural stage of human development. The problem might be that on FFL we're all pretty much at that stage with no youngsters around to impart to! On Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I appreciate the fact that Mr. Gilpin had no desire to become an object of adoration, a guru. Most people's egos would have made a different choice, no matter what kind of spiritual gauze they might wrap the choice in. I've never really understood those who want to hold court and sit on the tall chair at the front of the room, whether that seat be the Throne Of Swords or Maharishi's Sofa Of Sattva. My opinion on this may be colored by my reading of Shakespeare, where the perils of holding court are presented so well. It may be further colored by the fact that I've just started reading Christopher Moore's The Serpent Of Venice, in which he reprises his character of Pocket of Dog-Snogging, known elsewhere in literature as Lear's Fool. The Fool is the *only* position in any court worth aspiring to in my opinion. He's the only one in the room who can speak his mind and yet (much of the time) be allowed to stay in the room. In my opinion, every guru should be forced to have a Fool on his or her payroll, and to listen to him. It shouldn't even be an option...more of a required security feature, like seat belts. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday
Do the other practitioners get to watch it on skype? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, BTW, Not everyone is invited. [update: The following information regarding required badge was inadvertently omitted from the previous announcement: Please bring your current program badge or MUM ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation program, please contact the Invincible America Department (472-1212 or email: iadept@... mailto:iadept@...).] Sunday, June 1st 1:30 pm – 3:30 pm Dalby Hall With Bevan and Craig Pearson. Special Afternoon with Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Craig Pearson Sunday, June 1st 1:30 pm – 3:30 pm Dalby Hall Reflections on Recent Graduation Events, News, and Stories from Africa and Around the World You are warmly invited to presentations by Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Craig Pearson as they share stories from this year’s fantastic graduation events—and exciting developments from the visit by Commencement speaker Jim Carrey. Dr. Morris will report on developments from his recent tour of eight nations in Africa, and also on the latest news from around the globe. Slides and video clips highlight his meetings with government and education leaders—including former Presidents—and with our Movement family. Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Script
Sorry Share, I think what you spouted reflects, for one simple example, the ignorance of never having children. Parenting isn't an experience that can be transferred, so I don't fault you. I haven't read either of these psychologists, so can't comment on the context of what they were saying or how you've applied it to what Barry spouted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Don't kid yourself Share. What you've just spouted is all surface bullshit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : What turq is calling holding court psychologists Erickson and Piaget called generativity, the passing on of one's experience based wisdom to the next generation. It's considered a natural stage of human development. The problem might be that on FFL we're all pretty much at that stage with no youngsters around to impart to! On Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I appreciate the fact that Mr. Gilpin had no desire to become an object of adoration, a guru. Most people's egos would have made a different choice, no matter what kind of spiritual gauze they might wrap the choice in. I've never really understood those who want to hold court and sit on the tall chair at the front of the room, whether that seat be the Throne Of Swords or Maharishi's Sofa Of Sattva. My opinion on this may be colored by my reading of Shakespeare, where the perils of holding court are presented so well. It may be further colored by the fact that I've just started reading Christopher Moore's The Serpent Of Venice, in which he reprises his character of Pocket of Dog-Snogging, known elsewhere in literature as Lear's Fool. The Fool is the *only* position in any court worth aspiring to in my opinion. He's the only one in the room who can speak his mind and yet (much of the time) be allowed to stay in the room. In my opinion, every guru should be forced to have a Fool on his or her payroll, and to listen to him. It shouldn't even be an option...more of a required security feature, like seat belts. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Script
Not concretely, no, not at all, although it seems that she is actually demonstrating what Barry said, therefore rendering what she said as nonsense. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Here's what Barry spouted about holding court in his other, longer post. Doesn't quite seem to fit with what Share describes as generativity, does it? You wanted to be perceived as knowing things that others didn't, just as you perceived that in the particular guy or gal at the front of your rooms, whether or not it was ever true. A part of you tried to convince other parts of you that you wanted this for altruistic reasons, to *help* people and assist them on their path to enlightenment, but if you think about it, there's a shitload of ego and hubris even in that justification. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Sorry Share, I think what you spouted reflects, for one simple example, the ignorance of never having children. Parenting isn't an experience that can be transferred, so I don't fault you. I haven't read either of these psychologists, so can't comment on the context of what they were saying or how you've applied it to what Barry spouted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Don't kid yourself Share. What you've just spouted is all surface bullshit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : What turq is calling holding court psychologists Erickson and Piaget called generativity, the passing on of one's experience based wisdom to the next generation. It's considered a natural stage of human development. The problem might be that on FFL we're all pretty much at that stage with no youngsters around to impart to! On Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I appreciate the fact that Mr. Gilpin had no desire to become an object of adoration, a guru. Most people's egos would have made a different choice, no matter what kind of spiritual gauze they might wrap the choice in. I've never really understood those who want to hold court and sit on the tall chair at the front of the room, whether that seat be the Throne Of Swords or Maharishi's Sofa Of Sattva. My opinion on this may be colored by my reading of Shakespeare, where the perils of holding court are presented so well. It may be further colored by the fact that I've just started reading Christopher Moore's The Serpent Of Venice, in which he reprises his character of Pocket of Dog-Snogging, known elsewhere in literature as Lear's Fool. The Fool is the *only* position in any court worth aspiring to in my opinion. He's the only one in the room who can speak his mind and yet (much of the time) be allowed to stay in the room. In my opinion, every guru should be forced to have a Fool on his or her payroll, and to listen to him. It shouldn't even be an option...more of a required security feature, like seat belts. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice work if you can get it
Well...seven seconds didn't do anything for me, sleepless as I am tonight and in bodily pain. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : In a public gazing session, Braco stands on a podium and silently looks at the members of the audience for a period of five to ten minutes.Supporters say that during the gaze time they can feel tingling, see energy or a golden aura, experience peace or relief from pain. Believers say Braco's physical presence is not necessary, and gazing at a picture or video of him can be sufficient for healing. So if you've got a headache take a look at this video and feel the pain vanish . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nice work if you can get it
Re: This “random guy” told us this was his second gazing. He went into his first as a “skeptic” who drank five or six vodkas to get to sleep at night, but “wasn’t an alcoholic because it wasn’t a problem.” But after the gazing, he switched to sleeping pills and wine, because he was healed. He told us three times in a row “You people are the good people.” [Note: Ah, fuck it.] Oh, I see, I need to break out the sleeping pills and wine to get healed. smile
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nice work if you can get it
I'd enjoy Buck's posts a bit more if he would insert some photos of his animals, the range, his farm - into his musings on the unified field, dome doers, TM in action on the battlefield of the light brigade, etc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Read some of Buck's posts over and over. That'll put you to sleep. :-) From: emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nice work if you can get it Well...seven seconds didn't do anything for me, sleepless as I am tonight and in bodily pain. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : In a public gazing session, Braco stands on a podium and silently looks at the members of the audience for a period of five to ten minutes.Supporters say that during the gaze time they can feel tingling, see energy or a golden aura, experience peace or relief from pain. Believers say Braco's physical presence is not necessary, and gazing at a picture or video of him can be sufficient for healing. So if you've got a headache take a look at this video and feel the pain vanish . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice work if you can get it
Re: I wonder what would happen if he cut his hair. Yes, and put on a suit:) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Well...seven seconds didn't do anything for me, sleepless as I am tonight and in bodily pain. Oh dear, when I looked it didn't do anything for me either. However, I guess there are people doing worse things than standing in front of an audience gazing at them. I wonder what would happen if he cut his hair. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : In a public gazing session, Braco stands on a podium and silently looks at the members of the audience for a period of five to ten minutes.Supporters say that during the gaze time they can feel tingling, see energy or a golden aura, experience peace or relief from pain. Believers say Braco's physical presence is not necessary, and gazing at a picture or video of him can be sufficient for healing. So if you've got a headache take a look at this video and feel the pain vanish . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM0Gl1C3fc
