[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
> --- Angela Mailander wrote: > > Who's L. B. Shriver? LB Trusty Shriver (real name; no initials) is a Fairfield writer and publisher who was active on Fairfield Life a few years ago, and checks in occasionally yet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
Who's L. B. Shriver? - Original Message From: Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 1:02:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel Srijim1, Hmmm, L.B.Shriver had the same step-style formatting posting problem -- are you using a Mac like L.B.? If you can fix that, it would be good. On the other hand, you "sound" like L.B., and that's good, or, hey, new theory, maybe L.B.'s a jerk but stair stepping one's sentences makes one sound wise. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > > > Gal, actually. > > > > If you're still confused, here's a hint: > > Have a look at the posts from last week, > > before MMY died. Or just about any week > > before that. > > > > You should be able to figure it out from > > there. > > > > Judy, Judy, Judy, > > Thanks for referring me to some other people's thoughts on the matter. Forgive my > impertinence, but do you happen to have any original thoughts of your own? or is that > asking too much. Why so shy in expressing your own opinion? Perhaps that is frowned on > by his Majesty, but believe it or not it's a right guaranteed by the Constitution of the > United States. And get this it is even okay for you to practice different forms of spiritual > practice if you want. Not only that... if an employer tries to hinder your religious freedom... > they can be prosecuted for it. I guess that part of the Constitution hasn't reached Fairfield > yet, huh? Anyway Judy, only children hide behind the opinions of others. If you have > anything to say that expresses your own experiential understanding, I will be glad to read > it. Maybe when you find out what you actually think you will have something valuable to > contribute to the discussion. Until then, you are simply taking up space. There's an old > saying, "When everyone thinks the same there is no one thinking at all." There appears > to be far too much of this happening in your neck of the woods... and you appear to be a > prime example of the principle. > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even worse, Sparaig is back being an OCD > defender of everything Maharishi again. Actually, since he came back he's made 11 posts. During the same period, you've made 27.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hm, I guess you didn't bother to read the > > > post I was responding to. Bad idea. Makes > > > you look almost as silly as the poster. > > > > Yeah sister, I did. The content doesn't matter. > > It's your never ending condescending attitude > > towards those you disagree with. > > The DSM-IV elements of narcissistic PD are at least five of the following: >1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance >2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, > brilliance, beauty, or ideal love >3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique >4. requires excessive admiration >5. has a sense of entitlement >6. is interpersonally exploitative >7. lacks empathy >8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious > of him or her >9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes > > Have you ever SEEN a more classic embodiment of > Narcissistic Personality Disorder than Judy Stein? Actually, the only one of those you could legitimately pin on me would be #9; and as I pointed out to geezerfreak, I use those behaviors only when someone is being obnoxious.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 wrote: > > TurquoiseB, are the posting limits a Yahoo thing > > or a TM Movement directive? > > Neither. They're a local thing, to keep > assholes from dominating the conversations > here by posting hundreds of times per week > It used to happen, with some regularity. No, it didn't. On some occasions, around 100 posts a week, but never "hundreds of times per week." And of course "dominating the conversations" is absurd, since anybody could post as much as they wanted. > The three biggest offenders -- the *reasons* > that the normal posting limit of 50 per week > was originated -- were three posters who go > by the IDs of 'authfriend', 'shempmcgurk', > and 'sparaig.' Each of them used to flood > this forum with their posts, and when asked > politely to refrain from doing so, they > refused. That's not true either, actually.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 wrote: > > That's the beauty of democracy even assholes get to > > express their opinions. Since I evidently have a wrong > > opinion, in your view, with regard to the Maharishi & > > the TM Movement, perhaps you can enlighten me. > > It has nothing to DO with your opinion of Maharishi > and the TM movement. That's not what I'm talking > about. It has to do with your opinion of the people > you are speaking to on THIS forum. > > You cruised into town with a big fucking elitism chip > on your shoulder, assuming that everyone here believed > the same things you think that TM True Believers believe. > > They don't. Most of the folks here walked away from the > TM movement years or decades ago. They come here to talk > about it because here you can actually HAVE your own > opinions on all that stuff. In the TM movement itself, > you couldn't. > > Bottom line, dude, is that you're being an asshole. You > refuse to LISTEN. If you just shut the fuck up for a > little while and listened to what most of the people here > are really saying, you'd realize that it has almost > nothing to do with your fantasies of what they're saying. It's actually understandable why he has the wrong impression, having joined the group at this point and seen all the various tributes to MMY. That's why I urged him to have a look at the traffic here from before MMY died, when the posts were more typical. His motive for coming here in the first place after he heard about MMY's death wasn't exactly admirable, given his misunderstanding about the nature of the group. But the posts he saw have tended to confirm that misunderstanding, so he plowed right ahead in his mission to upset all us True Believers by dumping on MMY as we were mourning MMY's demise. As you say, he's interpreting the responses to his posts as objections to his opinions of MMY rather than as attempts to set him straight about the nature of this forum. It's really pretty funny.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
Look, I like LB. Good writer and all, but Srijim's writing goes beyond that of most posters here. Good stuff Srijim. Very enjoyable to read. > Judith, > > I can't help but be amused by your rhetorical antics. Evidently, your acquaintances find you > amusing as well. A real riot I suppose. Thank you very much for "trying to save me from > myself." I'm sure in some misguided way you are sincere. However, you may want to be a > bit more diligent in getting your own house in order before you presume to have the skill > to fix mine. Of course, self reflection has never been a strong suit with religious zealots > and I suppose you're no different. Okay, it is fairly evident that you don't have an original > thought in your head. I welcomed you to express one and instead you stooped to childish > name calling. You have indicated that I would be mortified... petrified... and probably > psychedelicized if I read someone else's opinions from a few weeks ago. Rather than that, > why don't you just sum up their thoughts and hit me with your best shot. Surely, if the > opinions are that well stated, it will be easy for you to make spiritual mince-meat of me. > Judging by your "true believer" sense of confidence that shouldn't be to difficult. I have > stated some fairly inflammatory opinions based on my observations of Mr. Varma and his > delusional organization over the past 40 years. I don't expect to change anyone's opinion. > But, perhaps there is someone stuck in the TM Movement's sticky web who will recognize > that my thoughts are not without merit. Perhaps not. Who knows? Who cares? Call me old > fashioned, but I find all manifestations of tyranny, fascism, and religious oppression > repugnant no matter what institutionalized form it takes. The cloak of spirituality is > probably the most offensive because it preys on the sincerity of good people and betrays > their trust. If Mr. Varma was not guilty of this... I am all ears. But please... spare me the I > am " REEELY STOOPID" if I don't go along with you on blind faith speech. It > embarrasses the forum members who may share your views and it makes you appear as a > simpleton. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just FYI, Funeral Gawker, Judy is right...you're > > making an ass of yourself. MOST of the people > > here are NOT believers in all the stuff you > > think they are. The person being an idiot is you. > > TurquoiseB, thanks for clarifying the forum rules. Also, > thanks for pointing out to me what an asshole and idiot > I am. De nada. > That's the beauty of democracy even assholes get to > express their opinions. Since I evidently have a wrong > opinion, in your view, with regard to the Maharishi & > the TM Movement, perhaps you can enlighten me. It has nothing to DO with your opinion of Maharishi and the TM movement. That's not what I'm talking about. It has to do with your opinion of the people you are speaking to on THIS forum. You cruised into town with a big fucking elitism chip on your shoulder, assuming that everyone here believed the same things you think that TM True Believers believe. They don't. Most of the folks here walked away from the TM movement years or decades ago. They come here to talk about it because here you can actually HAVE your own opinions on all that stuff. In the TM movement itself, you couldn't. Bottom line, dude, is that you're being an asshole. You refuse to LISTEN. If you just shut the fuck up for a little while and listened to what most of the people here are really saying, you'd realize that it has almost nothing to do with your fantasies of what they're saying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
> Just FYI, Funeral Gawker, Judy is right...you're > making an ass of yourself. MOST of the people > here are NOT believers in all the stuff you > think they are. The person being an idiot is you. > TurquoiseB, thanks for clarifying the forum rules. Also, thanks for pointing out to me what an asshole and idiot I am. That's the beauty of democracy even assholes get to express their opinions. Since I evidently have a wrong opinion, in your view, with regard to the Maharishi & the TM Movement, perhaps you can enlighten me. I admit, that as an outsider, most of the TM activities over the years have either appeared to me as some kind of financial scam, some form of totalitarian control, or downright ridiculousness. Let me first admit, my view of Mr. Varma & the TM Movement has been prejudiced by the destructive force they have played in some of my friend's lives. I'm old enough that I remember when the Maharishi said he only charged an initiation fee to pay for flyers advertising the technique. Can you imagine? Back then he said all a person had to do was meditate twice a day and within 5 years they would probably be enlightened. He made all kinds of claims of how he was going to save the world by bringing it into an Age of Enlightenment. He was going to establish a grand movement based on a foundation of Creative Intelligence and all of the world's governments would naturally fall within his divine sphere. Now, some of you might think I'm kidding, but I'm absolutely serious. Whether you believe it or not, he actually said these things and sadly, some people believed him. On this forum, I have gotten the impression that some of you think the TM Movement as it exist today is somehow unconnected with Mr. Varma's vision. I find this puzzling because if there is any absolute truth that surrounds the self-proclaimed Maharishi, it is that his organization is an exact reflection of his consciousness. To say that it is not is absurd. He was the person who designed the techniques and their corresponding price structure. He was the person who set up the TM Movement hierarchy and designated the people in charge. He was the person who established the goals the organization was supposed to achieve. The TM Movement is the embodiment of Mr. Varma's vision of an enlightened government in manifested form. And yet, some of you seem to be saying you don't like what you see. As if, somehow, you can live in Fairfield, being a part of these TM activities, but somehow not part of the actual TM movement. Now, I won't go so far as to call you idiots, but I would highly recommend you look at what you're actually saying and recognize the paradox your words express. For example; your statement, " MOST of the people here are NOT believers in all the stuff you think they are." My question to you is, if you guys don't believe it WHO DOES? To an outsider, your thinking doesn't make any sense. Now, I have been critical of many of the things I have seen Mr. Varma & the TM Movement rationalize and perpetrate over the years in the name of spirituality. And, that makes me an asshole. So be it. If anything I have said in my previous posts is inaccurate, point it out to me and I will be glad to stand corrected. I have never cared for Mr. Varma nor the organization he created, but it is not my intention to mischaracterize the facts to make my point. Am I an asshole because I have misstated the facts or is it because I have had the temerity to ridicule the facts for what they are? Be honest... have you ever seen one person actually fly? Have any of you known anyone who has ever attained enlightenment using the techniques Mr. Varma sold? And what about this grand vision Mr. Varma espoused? Do any of you think the world is an any less violent or a more sattvic place since the advent of TM? The honest answer is... of course not. The TM Movement has not been successful in any endeavor other than as a financial enterprise. I have respect for the spiritual path and for the sincere people who pursue it. I do not have respect for people who denigrate spiritual tradition by marketing spiritual techniques like some drug store commodity to be sold to the highest bidder. It is an offense to all spiritually minded people and deserves to be the object of ridicule & derision. So, why do I go to all this trouble of expressing my view on a Fairfield Forum? Good question. The reason is because now that Mr. Varma is dead, maybe some of the poor souls who have been stuck in the TM Movement's sticky web will wake up and say, "we're not going to put up with this any more. We want a decent wage and a good dental plan just like a real university." "We're not going to call Tony Nader his Majesty any more"... and we'll practice whatever the hell spiritual techniques we want." "And, we're no longer going to be under the thumb of some of these TM staff tyrants
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Fortunately, in a couple of weeks the > > posting limits will be back, and he'll > > be gone again. > TurquoiseB, are the posting limits a Yahoo thing > or a TM Movement directive? Neither. They're a local thing, to keep assholes from dominating the conversations here by posting hundreds of times per week It used to happen, with some regularity. The three biggest offenders -- the *reasons* that the normal posting limit of 50 per week was originated -- were three posters who go by the IDs of 'authfriend', 'shempmcgurk', and 'sparaig.' Each of them used to flood this forum with their posts, and when asked politely to refrain from doing so, they refused. Therefore the posting limits were adopted. During normal times, if anyone goes over 50 posts per week (Friday midnight Fairfield time through the next Friday midnight), they get banned for a week. Can't WAIT for them to be in effect again... Just FYI, Funeral Gawker, Judy is right...you're making an ass of yourself. MOST of the people here are NOT believers in all the stuff you think they are. The person being an idiot is you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hm, I guess you didn't bother to read the > > post I was responding to. Bad idea. Makes > > you look almost as silly as the poster. > > Yeah sister, I did. The content doesn't matter. > It's your never ending condescending attitude > towards those you disagree with. The DSM-IV elements of narcissistic PD are at least five of the following: 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique 4. requires excessive admiration 5. has a sense of entitlement 6. is interpersonally exploitative 7. lacks empathy 8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Have you ever SEEN a more classic embodiment of Narcissistic Personality Disorder than Judy Stein? That's what I've talking about this morning. If the teacher embodies Narcissistic Personality Disorder, SO DO HIS STUDENTS. It just goes with the territory.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
> Fortunately, in a couple of weeks the > posting limits will be back, and he'll > be gone again. > TurquoiseB, are the posting limits a Yahoo thing or a TM Movement directive?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > I'm just going to leave it at that, because > > it's great fun to watch you spout off > > thinking you know what you're talking about. > I checked out of FFL for many months but took a look again > when MMY passed. And lo and behold, there's Judith on her > high horse running her ridiculous pompous mouth again. Some > things never change. Even worse, Sparaig is back being an OCD defender of everything Maharishi again. In all this time away you'd have thought he might have learned to THINK before he posts, but nooo... Fortunately, in a couple of weeks the posting limits will be back, and he'll be gone again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:18 AM, srijim1 wrote: > > > I bet old "Deep-Pockets" Chopra is probably kicking himself now... it > > could have been all his. Ha! Tough luck Deepak, you had your chance. > > > Actually Chopra's an interesting case and point. He has his own Neo- > Vedic Science mega-church now--but needs to kiss up since his song > and dance is derived from his ex-teacher's. So he's been making up > new stories to secure that cash, uh, I meant lineage. :-) > > If he doesn't try to make his teacher look legit, it makes him look > illegitimate. So the stories flow. > > Have you seen the 6-year old "Mahasamadhi" picture? Very clever! > Vaj, I'm delighted to see there is someone else on this forum who has an irreverent sense of humor. As you've noticed, I don't have much respect for these self-proclaimed holy men from India. After The Beatles made Mr. Varma the first guru superstar, the US was literally flooded with these characters. Why? because that's where the big money was. It's as simple as that. The guru con is one of the oldest cons in India, right up there with the begging cartels. The USA was the mother-lode of spiritual suckers then and it still is. I guess what I find so offensive about the self-proclaimed Maharishi is that he didn't even try to disguise his con... he started out almost immediately trying to turn a profit. First, he side-stepped the "have-nots" and charged $35 to the "haves". And when he didn't think the "Haves" were lucrative enough, he marketed spirituality exclusively to the "Have- Mores." The guy was completely shameless in his greed and ruined the lives a lot of sincere good people with all his vedic smoke & mirrors. Flying technique?... give me a break. The Shankara lineage in India was absolutely appalled by the man. And, the TM Movement has evolved into nothing less than a fascist spiritual tyranny run by a group of self-serving megalomaniacs. Chopra & Pundit Ravi Shankar are cut from the same cloth. They didn't feel they were getting their share of the Maharishi pie and saw their chance to set up their own little spiritual money machines. The transparency is laughable. And yet, sincere people are continually taken in by this obvious con. It's truly tragic. But, what can you do? People believe what they want to believe no matter how ridiculous. There is no waking these zombies out of their spiritual fog with reason, so maybe a little humor will help laugh them out of it. We're all victims of our own folly to an extent. There is no shame in seeing that. Selling/buying enlightenment for a million dollars is funny. Even his royal highness, Nader Rum-Dum can't disguise the absurdity of that. Hopefully not, anyway. What I wonder, is that now Mr. Varma is dead... are the rank & file going to keep putting up with this TM Monarchy nonsense? Only time will tell and I truly wish them the best.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
> I'm trying to save you from yourself, you see. > Go read the forum traffic for the week before > MMY died. Unless you're really, RELY STOOPID, > which I doubt, you'll realize why I told you to > do that, and you'll be embarrassed. > > But once you get over that, you may actually have > something to contribute here. > Judith, I can't help but be amused by your rhetorical antics. Evidently, your acquaintances find you amusing as well. A real riot I suppose. Thank you very much for "trying to save me from myself." I'm sure in some misguided way you are sincere. However, you may want to be a bit more diligent in getting your own house in order before you presume to have the skill to fix mine. Of course, self reflection has never been a strong suit with religious zealots and I suppose you're no different. Okay, it is fairly evident that you don't have an original thought in your head. I welcomed you to express one and instead you stooped to childish name calling. You have indicated that I would be mortified... petrified... and probably psychedelicized if I read someone else's opinions from a few weeks ago. Rather than that, why don't you just sum up their thoughts and hit me with your best shot. Surely, if the opinions are that well stated, it will be easy for you to make spiritual mince-meat of me. Judging by your "true believer" sense of confidence that shouldn't be to difficult. I have stated some fairly inflammatory opinions based on my observations of Mr. Varma and his delusional organization over the past 40 years. I don't expect to change anyone's opinion. But, perhaps there is someone stuck in the TM Movement's sticky web who will recognize that my thoughts are not without merit. Perhaps not. Who knows? Who cares? Call me old fashioned, but I find all manifestations of tyranny, fascism, and religious oppression repugnant no matter what institutionalized form it takes. The cloak of spirituality is probably the most offensive because it preys on the sincerity of good people and betrays their trust. If Mr. Varma was not guilty of this... I am all ears. But please... spare me the I am " REEELY STOOPID" if I don't go along with you on blind faith speech. It embarrasses the forum members who may share your views and it makes you appear as a simpleton.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
Srijim1, Hmmm, L.B.Shriver had the same step-style formatting posting problem -- are you using a Mac like L.B.? If you can fix that, it would be good. On the other hand, you "sound" like L.B., and that's good, or, hey, new theory, maybe L.B.'s a jerk but stair stepping one's sentences makes one sound wise. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gal, actually. > > > > If you're still confused, here's a hint: > > Have a look at the posts from last week, > > before MMY died. Or just about any week > > before that. > > > > You should be able to figure it out from > > there. > > > > Judy, Judy, Judy, > > Thanks for referring me to some other people's thoughts on the matter. Forgive my > impertinence, but do you happen to have any original thoughts of your own? or is that > asking too much. Why so shy in expressing your own opinion? Perhaps that is frowned on > by his Majesty, but believe it or not it's a right guaranteed by the Constitution of the > United States. And get this it is even okay for you to practice different forms of spiritual > practice if you want. Not only that... if an employer tries to hinder your religious freedom... > they can be prosecuted for it. I guess that part of the Constitution hasn't reached Fairfield > yet, huh? Anyway Judy, only children hide behind the opinions of others. If you have > anything to say that expresses your own experiential understanding, I will be glad to read > it. Maybe when you find out what you actually think you will have something valuable to > contribute to the discussion. Until then, you are simply taking up space. There's an old > saying, "When everyone thinks the same there is no one thinking at all." There appears > to be far too much of this happening in your neck of the woods... and you appear to be a > prime example of the principle. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gal, actually. > > > > If you're still confused, here's a hint: > > Have a look at the posts from last week, > > before MMY died. Or just about any week > > before that. > > > > You should be able to figure it out from > > there. > > Judy, Judy, Judy, > > Thanks for referring me to some other people's thoughts on the > matter. Forgive my impertinence, but do you happen to have any > original thoughts of your own? or is that asking too much. I'm trying to save you from yourself, you see. Go read the forum traffic for the week before MMY died. Unless you're really, RELY STOOPID, which I doubt, you'll realize why I told you to do that, and you'll be embarrassed. But once you get over that, you may actually have something to contribute here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Only the obnoxious ones, poopsie. Go to bed Judith. It's way passed your bedtime and there's a whole day of your pathetic postings from on high waiting for you tomorrow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
> Gal, actually. > > If you're still confused, here's a hint: > Have a look at the posts from last week, > before MMY died. Or just about any week > before that. > > You should be able to figure it out from > there. > Judy, Judy, Judy, Thanks for referring me to some other people's thoughts on the matter. Forgive my impertinence, but do you happen to have any original thoughts of your own? or is that asking too much. Why so shy in expressing your own opinion? Perhaps that is frowned on by his Majesty, but believe it or not it's a right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. And get this it is even okay for you to practice different forms of spiritual practice if you want. Not only that... if an employer tries to hinder your religious freedom... they can be prosecuted for it. I guess that part of the Constitution hasn't reached Fairfield yet, huh? Anyway Judy, only children hide behind the opinions of others. If you have anything to say that expresses your own experiential understanding, I will be glad to read it. Maybe when you find out what you actually think you will have something valuable to contribute to the discussion. Until then, you are simply taking up space. There's an old saying, "When everyone thinks the same there is no one thinking at all." There appears to be far too much of this happening in your neck of the woods... and you appear to be a prime example of the principle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Let me say, I am humbled in your sage presence and can only > stand back speechless in the brilliance of your mental prowess. > You must be a "whopping" smart guy. Thanks again. Gal, actually. If you're still confused, here's a hint: Have a look at the posts from last week, before MMY died. Or just about any week before that. You should be able to figure it out from there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 wrote: > > > "Don't assume that everyone here takes seriously > > the things that the TM movement takes seriously." > > > > You mean to tell me there are actually people involved in all > > this nonsense, who see the con behind the "Maharishi Iron > > Curtain" and still go along with it? > > No, he isn't telling you that. > > > Well, that's downright obtuse. > > Actually, that would be you. > > You've made a whopping mistaken assumption. > > I'm just going to leave it at that, because > it's great fun to watch you spout off > thinking you know what you're talking about. > Authfriend, hey thanks for straightening me out. Whew! You certainly have an eloquent way of expressing yourself and cutting straight to the heart of the matter. I especially admire how you identify the salient points to clarify your position. Yes, I see exactly what you're saying... I have made a "whopping mistaken assumption" and no further explanation is necessary. Silly me for even expecting one. After such a "whopping" display of your intelligence I'm convinced you know exactly what you're talking about. Let me say, I am humbled in your sage presence and can only stand back speechless in the brilliance of your mental prowess. You must be a "whopping" smart guy. Thanks again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > wrote: > > > > >> > > Hm, I guess you didn't bother to read the > > post I was responding to. Bad idea. Makes > > you look almost as silly as the poster. > > > Yeah sister, I did. The content doesn't matter. It's your never ending condescending attitude > towards those you disagree with. Only the obnoxious ones, poopsie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > >> > Hm, I guess you didn't bother to read the > post I was responding to. Bad idea. Makes > you look almost as silly as the poster. > Yeah sister, I did. The content doesn't matter. It's your never ending condescending attitude towards those you disagree with.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > I'm just going to leave it at that, because > > it's great fun to watch you spout off > > thinking you know what you're talking about. > > I checked out of FFL for many months but took a look again when > MMY passed. And lo and behold, there's Judith on her high horse > running her ridiculous pompous mouth again. Some things never > change. Hm, I guess you didn't bother to read the post I was responding to. Bad idea. Makes you look almost as silly as the poster.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm just going to leave it at that, because > it's great fun to watch you spout off > thinking you know what you're talking about. > I checked out of FFL for many months but took a look again when MMY passed. And lo and behold, there's Judith on her high horse running her ridiculous pompous mouth again. Some things never change.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Don't assume that everyone here takes seriously > the things that the TM movement takes seriously." > > You mean to tell me there are actually people involved in all > this nonsense, who see the con behind the "Maharishi Iron > Curtain" and still go along with it? No, he isn't telling you that. > Well, that's downright obtuse. Actually, that would be you. You've made a whopping mistaken assumption. I'm just going to leave it at that, because it's great fun to watch you spout off thinking you know what you're talking about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
"Actually, in the TM movement it's even stranger. The guys who have the title of "Raja" not only didn't get the title in lieu of a raise, they had to pay their boss one million bucks for the title. No, I'm not kidding." HOLY Jai Guru Deva-Dip, Batman!!! This story just gets better and better. A million bucks to be called "Raja"? Who are these people? Where can I meet one? Just goes to show a spiritual sucker is re-incarnated every day. P.T. Barnum would be green with envy. Hilarious "Don't assume that everyone here takes seriously the things that the TM movement takes seriously." You mean to tell me there are actually people involved in all this nonsense, who see the con behind the "Maharishi Iron Curtain" and still go along with it? Well, that's downright obtuse. What you're describing is a "sheep" mentality normally associated with people who have been institutionalized. Either that, or they are so trapped financially in Fairfield that feel they have no choice but to go along with this assault on their common sense. Call me crazy, but it sounds like these folks are living under a spiritual tyranny to me. I must have missed that section of the Bhagavad Gita. Please tell me you're pulling my leg. "If you get off on mocking the afflicted and feel- ing superior to them (which seems to be the case), you might want to aim your own lack of humility at the right targets." Duly busted. But hey, you're in America and poking fun at people & things that take themselves too seriously is a constitutional right. Getting around that first amendment of of the Constitution is pretty tough even there in Fairfield. Sorry. The TM Movement, smothered in its ludicrous titles and huckster financial scams is a prime target for ridicule if there ever was one. Surely, even the powers that be must see that setting up a monarchy, printing confederate money, and calling themselves things like your Majesty in IOWA is beyond absurd. Ever heard the expression, "delusions of grandeur"? "Power has a way of undermining judgment, of planting delusions of grandeur in the minds of otherwise sensible people and otherwise sensible nations." Another expression for this is of a person suffering from Megalomania a person convinced of their own genius and omnipotence. Sound like anyone we know? Spiritual Megalomania is another section of the Bhagadvad Gita I seem to have missed. Maybe the reason Arjuna hesitated in killing the Kauruvas was he was thinking about the revenue he would lose from the Joytish & Amrit Kalash concession. Do ya think? Really TurquoiseB, you're better than all this TM hog-swallow. If you want to work for a tyrant, you can do a lot better with some sleazy corporation on the outside that pays a decent wage and has a good dental plan... and there's no his Majesty this or his Holiness that you get to call the boss the same name everyone else does... Mr. Asshole. Best regards, Raja "Funeral Gawker" ( I didn't pay a dime for that title)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:18 AM, srijim1 wrote: I bet old "Deep-Pockets" Chopra is probably kicking himself now... it could have been all his. Ha! Tough luck Deepak, you had your chance. Actually Chopra's an interesting case and point. He has his own Neo- Vedic Science mega-church now--but needs to kiss up since his song and dance is derived from his ex-teacher's. So he's been making up new stories to secure that cash, uh, I meant lineage. :-) If he doesn't try to make his teacher look legit, it makes him look illegitimate. So the stories flow. Have you seen the 6-year old "Mahasamadhi" picture? Very clever!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijim1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To His Royal Highness, The Beloved-ness Rick Archer & > Friends, (sorry, I wasn't sure of your titles) > > You Maharishi guys really crack me up. His Holiness > the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? His Majesty Maharaja > Nader Raam? Governor this.. Siddha that. You guys > sure love lofty titles and superlatives. I always > think of titles as something you get when your boss > doesn't want to give you a pay raise. Is that what's > happening there? Actually, in the TM movement it's even stranger. The guys who have the title of "Raja" not only didn't get the title in lieu of a raise, they had to pay their boss one million bucks for the title. No, I'm not kidding. I'm guessing, given the rest of your post, that you're some kind of "funeral gawker" drawn to this newsgroup out of curiosity after having noticed that Maharishi died. Don't assume that everyone here takes seriously the things that the TM movement takes seriously. If you get off on mocking the afflicted and feel- ing superior to them (which seems to be the case), you might want to aim your own lack of humility at the right targets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special Broadcast on Maharishi Channel
To His Royal Highness, The Beloved-ness Rick Archer & Friends, (sorry, I wasn't sure of your titles) You Maharishi guys really crack me up. His Holiness the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? His Majesty Maharaja Nader Raam? Governor this.. Siddha that. You guys sure love lofty titles and superlatives. I always think of titles as something you get when your boss doesn't want to give you a pay raise. Is that what's happening there? Or, maybe humility isn't one of your strong suits. Seriously, you guys define new perimeters of buffoonery. What a hoot. Have to admit Mr.Mahesh Varma, the self proclaimed Maharishi, was a great spiritual con-man though maybe the best. Have to give him credit for that. That caper with the flying thing... now that was really something. And for those nincompoops to actually believe they could fly? can you believe that? I mean it's right out of "The Emperor's New Clothes" story. Priceless. Makes me laugh just thinking about it. You can't dream up this kind of stuff. Well, the Big "M" could, but most of us can't. The con I liked best though was when he convinced those folks he would sell them personal enlightenment in the 90's. What was the price tag? a hundred thousand?... a million?... I forget. I heard over a hundred people fell for that one. LOL!!! A multi-million dollar heist and perfectly legal!!! Beautiful. Of course, the Big "M' will probably be best remembered for selling those hindu seed mantras for $2500 a pop. That's the bread & butter. Pure genius! Who would have ever thought you could dress some dime store mantras with a dog & pony puja ceremony ... and people would actually buy it? My hat's off to him. So, what I want to know is what is his new royal majesty going to do with all that money? Admit it... you want to know too. I've heard rumors of around $3 billion stashed in secret swiss bank accounts not too shabby guys. Time to split up the booty if you ask me. BTW, what do you call his new royalness behind his back?... come on you've got to have some kind of nickname for the boss. My guess is Osama Bin Raama. Am I close? Let's hope he spreads the wealth a little. I always heard the Mahesh was pretty tight fisted with a rupee. I don't mean to disparage the dearly departed, but that Maharishi guy could squeeze a quarter out of a nickel from what I've heard. I bet old "Deep-Pockets" Chopra is probably kicking himself now... it could have been all his. Ha! Tough luck Deepak, you had your chance. Anyway, thanks for the entertainment over the years guys. His most excellent-ness, Nadar Raam-Dum, has some pretty deep pockets to fill. My suggestion is to offer some kind of grifter technique... you know, call it something like the ancient auyervedic "Kriya-golden-pick-pocket" siddhi technique. I like that... has a ring to it, don't you think? Just say it appeared out of the ether or something. Better yet, say it was the Big "M''s final words. People love that kind of stuff. Anyway, good luck with your TV show, guys. Break a leg... and all that. BTW, are you going to have a telethon where we people can send you money. Remember, gotta think the way HE would think! Good luck.
