[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines: Share what you know. Find the groups that are right for you. Post your own content. Have a good time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content. “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether. “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. “Don't be unkind”. We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience. If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]. Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be ab
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
# "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether. “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks who dom
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
June 1 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Effective June 8 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
June 9 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
# June 10 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community. The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip o
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
So, Buck, in your opinion, how are we doing under these first few days of 'moderation'? You have not said much except to repeat certain things, more or less from the guidelines and post a memorial service notice. I am curious how you feel about your new role and what you are faced with here. This is a very diverse group. A number of the true believers have left previously, but that means true seekers or finders remain, and some of those that oppose them remain, but how do you tell which is which?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Hey Buck, Since the subject has been broached, I am record saying that FFL has become a more friendly place in these past few days, and I think it would be nice if it could continue in this manner. I am also on record as saying that those who try to nitpick the guidelines as a reason to engage in interactions that have proven to be divisive are doing a disservice to the site. If one's goal is to make people uncomfortable in some manner so they can deepen (the other persons) spiritual awareness, then I would say that approach has failed, and it's worthwhile to try a different approach. My two cents. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, Buck, in your opinion, how are we doing under these first few days of 'moderation'? You have not said much except to repeat certain things, more or less from the guidelines and post a memorial service notice. I am curious how you feel about your new role and what you are faced with here. This is a very diverse group. A number of the true believers have left previously, but that means true seekers or finders remain, and some of those that oppose them remain, but how do you tell which is which?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Preview by Yahoo # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Preview by Yahoo # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fea
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
It was Richard, and if you guys have any smarts at all, you'll all just STFU about it so that he can't complain that you're all talking smack about him and demand to be let back in so that he can respond. BTW, it was Rick, not Buck, who did the deed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
#March 1 In self-moderation we rely on each other, "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." In moderation, -JaiGuruYou #FFL is categorized as a 'spiritual' group. One would hope that people could trust that they could post reflections here on this yahoo-group without incurring personal abuse. Please note the yahoo-groups guidelines saying, “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” and “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” # From the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines: “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
I'm sure he posted that in response to my satirical post on MUM. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines: Share what you know. Find the groups that are right for you. Post your own content. Have a good time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content.“Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy.”..the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether.“2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends.Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliatingBelligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude.Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful.Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation.Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave.Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. “Don'tbe unkind”. We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience. Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]. Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members.There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack.It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum.Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control.The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.”In thinking together, peopleoften may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extendthemselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engagingwith evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provokeunfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on tothemselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process'takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get goodat it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too manyof the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking onFFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective insteadof just commenting on a substance of the material brought. Thatabusive character has been really unfortunate for th
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Doug, Now that you have achieved your life's dream of becoming the Fairfield Life moderator, can I ask for your assistance in helping to rid the forum of spam? It would seem that someone has been posting the same 1,680-word message (below) over and over and over and over and over on this forum. Spamming is clearly against the Yahoo Guidelines, and even Alex used to remove spammers, so I'm sure you'll want to get right on this, too. Furthermore, it appears that the person who is stupidly spamming FFL with the same post over and over and over and over is using your ID to do it, which means that they are also guilty of impersonation, which clearly violates the Yahoo Guidelines as well. Please do something about this... From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines June 9 # "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, peopleoften may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extendthemselves individually in to the collective, for fear of en
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Doug, I think there is a consensus to give the new model the 'ol college try. Of course there are always those threatened by "change". A! Perhaps they feel they have the most to lose. What is so damn curious, is that Barry, could, in a matter of minutes create his own "ideal" chat room where he could chat away to his hearts content, and post reviews to his hearts content, and invite all his BFF's. But, I'm afraid FFL is much more than that. It is his opportunity to knock down and demean other people in the name of "content". You realize that what he is doing now, is to test the limits, with overall objective of getting "booted" Then, IM very HO, he can go from narcissist to martyr. It's pretty text book. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug, Now that you have achieved your life's dream of becoming the Fairfield Life moderator, can I ask for your assistance in helping to rid the forum of spam? It would seem that someone has been posting the same 1,680-word message (below) over and over and over and over and over on this forum. Spamming is clearly against the Yahoo Guidelines, and even Alex used to remove spammers, so I'm sure you'll want to get right on this, too. Furthermore, it appears that the person who is stupidly spamming FFL with the same post over and over and over and over is using your ID to do it, which means that they are also guilty of impersonation, which clearly violates the Yahoo Guidelines as well. Please do something about this... From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines June 9 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum. Truth evidently won't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
If you really are the Guardian of the Yahoo Guidelines Galaxy, then it is incumbent upon you to do your sacred duty and ban all of us, including yourself because every one of us has ranted. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines # June 10# "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.” In thinking together, peopleoften may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extendthemselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engagingwith evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provokeunfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on tothemselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process'takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get goodat it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too manyof the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking onFFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective insteadof just commenting on a substance of the material brought. Thatabu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines If you really are the Guardian of the Yahoo Guidelines Galaxy, then it is incumbent upon you to do your sacred duty and ban all of us, including yourself because every one of us has ranted. And in all fairness Doug continues to spam Fairfield Life by continuing to post this 1,680-word rant over and over and over and over and over. He *might* be able to make a case for reposting the topmost 307 words of it (the actual Yahoo Guidelines), but there is NO EXCUSE for reposting what follows, which is nothing but Doug's own long-winded rant. Within the rant itself he also violates the guidelines himself multiple times, because he calls several people "bullies," (the sin of being insulting, and casting slurs against other posters), characterizes others as "dogs" (the sin of making unkind or degrading remarks), uses the word "F*ck" several times (the sin of profanity), and calls at least three people by their real names, which are not reflected in their posting IDs (the non-Yahoo but FFL sin of outing someone by referring to them by their own name without their permission). I would suggest that to set a good example, Doug pretty much HAS to stop posting this obvious rant, and limit himself to reposting the first 307 words (the part between the two # marks). I would think that if he were serious about enforcing the real Yahoo Guidelines he'd be *embarrassed* to keep spamming the newsgroup with this obvious rant, in which he himself violates those guidelines multiple times. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines # June 10# "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking f
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as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines If you really are the Guardian of the Yahoo Guidelines Galaxy, then it is incumbent upon you to do your sacred duty and ban all of us, including yourself because every one of us has ranted. And in all fairness Doug continues to spam Fairfield Life by continuing to post this 1,680-word rant over and over and over and over and over. He *might* be able to make a case for reposting the topmost 307 words of it (the actual Yahoo Guidelines), but there is NO EXCUSE for reposting what follows, which is nothing but Doug's own long-winded rant. Within the rant itself he also violates the guidelines himself multiple times, because he calls several people "bullies," (the sin of being insulting, and casting slurs against other posters), characterizes others as "dogs" (the sin of making unkind or degrading remarks), uses the word "F*ck" several times (the sin of profanity), and calls at least three people by their real names, which are not reflected in their posting IDs (the non-Yahoo but FFL sin of outing someone by referring to them by their own name without their permission). I would suggest that to set a good example, Doug pretty much HAS to stop posting this obvious rant, and limit himself to reposting the first 307 words (the part between the two # marks). I would think that if he were serious about enforcing the real Yahoo Guidelines he'd be *embarrassed* to keep spamming the newsgroup with this obvious rant, in which he himself violates those guidelines multiple times. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines # June 10 # "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating de
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For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
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From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" ...For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. Interesting. You certainly make a good case for how difficult Doug's job will be. Just riffing on this theoretical scenario, Anartaxius, do you think it would be easier for Doug to make such a Solomon-like decision if the person who had been named as the stupidest person on FFL had made eight posts just in the two days since Doug was made moderator, *each* of them violating the Yahoo Guidelines in some way?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
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To further my point of Yahoo Groups guidelines, back in the day when we first started post limits, I always joked that if they told anyone one at Yahoo we had posting limits they're response would have been "you have what!!!". We have speed limits of 25 mph on some of our city side streets. They regularly post a cop car with radar at the church halfway up the nearby hill where the limit is 25. But you won't get a ticket for doing 30. The limit is so someone doesn't race up the hill at 50 and collide with someone trying to exit the shopping center. It's very blind at that point. So they probably only issue tickets for over 35. Similarly a friend who had a heart attack right before Xmas has been very strict about his diet to the point of obsession. Ah, but he still smokes. He doesn't want to dine out because there's "too much sodium in restaurant food." Doctors hand out these guidelines knowing you will break them every so once in a while but not enough to create a problem. On 06/10/2015 12:14 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
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Xeno, you know, of course, what does not make one hell of a lot of sense, and that is, you have enough "content", and ideas to start your own group, strictly of like minded individuals. Would you possibly be willing to humor me, by telling me, why you insist on remaining here, apparently trying to convert those have a different approach to spiritual endeavours and intellectual discussions in general? I mean, I get the impression you could dissect most anything to reach most any conclusion. I guess, I know the reason for that. You would quickly run out of things to discuss. And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
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Seems to me you're missing a couple of things here, Xeno. Xeno wrote, in part: For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, What are your plans for group discovery of and agreement on the stupidest person here? There are a lot of ways to be stupid, not all of which involve low IQ. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. It's always possible simply not to mention it either way. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Of course, this is true only of some types of spirituality. Others value the individual self, and still others would consider the notion of "unconstrained awareness..." etc. to be heretical.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
I am still curious why you picked the word seventhray for your e-mail. You never answered my question. Just curious. Xenophaneros, for example, means literally 'alien made visible' or 'from a foreign/strange/unfamiliar place made manifest'. Steve (from Stephanos, also a Greek name) means 'crown'. As everything is essentially nothing, it is possible to create a positive argument for any situation, because opposites are in the end, equally opposed to each other and manifest from the same source which is void of all properties including being void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you know, of course, what does not make one hell of a lot of sense, and that is, you have enough "content", and ideas to start your own group, strictly of like minded individuals. Would you possibly be willing to humor me, by telling me, why you insist on remaining here, apparently trying to convert those have a different approach to spiritual endeavours and intellectual discussions in general? I mean, I get the impression you could dissect most anything to reach most any conclusion. I guess, I know the reason for that. You would quickly run out of things to discuss. And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Sure, no problem. There was a period of about three months (perhaps twenty years ago) when I visited the Saint Germain Foundation here in St. Louis. Someone had related some stories about St. Germain which I found interesting. It turns out that Arnold Perris and his wife were higher ups in the organization, and they ran the center here. He was a music professor at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, UMSL for short, before he retired, and joined the organization full time. The center, by the way was in a very fashionable area. At any rate, my take away from that experience was this notion of an "I AM Presence", of which a violet flame or ray is said to be an integral part, and has a purifying influence. And I believe this violet ray is the seventh ray, according to Ascended Master lore. So, I always liked that idea and adopted it as my handle here. If you'd like me to elaborate on anything about this, I'd be happy to, as I enjoy talking about it, even if the extent of my "investment", in it, is just in my handle, and as a concept I find of interest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I am still curious why you picked the word seventhray for your e-mail. You never answered my question. Just curious. Xenophaneros, for example, means literally 'alien made visible' or 'from a foreign/strange/unfamiliar place made manifest'. Steve (from Stephanos, also a Greek name) means 'crown'. As everything is essentially nothing, it is possible to create a positive argument for any situation, because opposites are in the end, equally opposed to each other and manifest from the same source which is void of all properties including being void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you know, of course, what does not make one hell of a lot of sense, and that is, you have enough "content", and ideas to start your own group, strictly of like minded individuals. Would you possibly be willing to humor me, by telling me, why you insist on remaining here, apparently trying to convert those have a different approach to spiritual endeavours and intellectual discussions in general? I mean, I get the impression you could dissect most anything to reach most any conclusion. I guess, I know the reason for that. You would quickly run out of things to discuss. And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and pr
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" ... For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. Interesting. You certainly make a good case for how difficult Doug's job will be. Just riffing on this theoretical scenario, Anartaxius, do you think it would be easier for Doug to make such a Solomon-like decision if the person who had been named as the stupidest person on FFL had made eight posts just in the two days since Doug was made moderator, *each* of them violating the Yahoo Guidelines in some way? Of course I do not know. Suppose we called someone a criminal. Now that might violate the guidelines. But suppose that person was arrested the next day for a felony? Would the person making the now correct call be reinstated? Doug in posting definitions of various kinds of slurs included the word 'irreverence' but that word does not appear in the guidelines. I think that kicking a person off FFL for irreverence would be a violation of free speech, for from a religious person's view, an atheist is irreverent but has just as much right under U.S. law as people who have more difficulty grasping logic and fact. The religious unaffiliated are now 28.8% of the U.S. population, more than mainline Protestant, Catholic, and non-Christian believers. The only group larger than the 'nones' as they are called, is the Evangelical Christians. In the Netherlands, the religiously unaffiliated are 42.1% of the population and it is increasing. People are not just posting from the United States here. The 'nones' are 27.8% of the United Kingdom (as long as it remains united anyway). Of course, worldwide, the fastest growing group are the Muslims, and they seem to have a much higher proportion of psychopathic believers than any other group and whatever you might want to say about the non-existence of god, or about meditation, they don't want you to say that at all, for fact and truth do not matter, only your death. There are many people here who have carried their religious baggage into their spirituality, but the trend we see developing is that the connexion between religion and spirituality is becoming less strong over time among the English speaking nations and their allies. And we have scientists (typically not in the TM movement) investigating consciousness, meditative techniques and spirituality from a scientific perspective with very little carry-over from religious ideas. So the idea of 'reverence', in the religious sense, as a guideline concept would not seem a feasible supposition on which to pin a violation of Yahoo guidelines, and we can include there are a number of atheist groups on Yahoo, and it is not likely that reverence would be a part of the mental stance of such groups, and they are freely allowed on Yahoo. Atheists of the statistical kind (likelihood that god exists = 0.5% or something like that) really do not hate believers, they just think they are mentally incapacitated largely by cultural and familial influences, an illness that could be reversed with the proper education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
I do find this interesting. Violet and purple are colours that some associate with spirituality, so I read somewhere once. Not sure how people come up with these things. I have always like violet colours, blues, and grey. But I would bet that if you looked into this there would be a lot of disagreement. Examples I quickly found on the web: PURPLE (violet): This colour relates to the imagination and spirituality. It stimulates the imagination and inspires high ideals. It is an introspective colour, allowing us to get in touch with our deeper thoughts. TURQUOISE: Helps to open the lines of communication between the heart and the spoken word. It presents as a friendly and happy colour enjoying life. In colour psychology, turquoise controls and heals the emotions creating emotional balance and stability. On one site, GREEN symbolised life, but I was told some years ago that in Africa, green signifies death, that there are cultural associations that differ from geographical area to area with regard to colour. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sure, no problem. There was a period of about three months (perhaps twenty years ago) when I visited the Saint Germain Foundation here in St. Louis. Someone had related some stories about St. Germain which I found interesting. It turns out that Arnold Perris and his wife were higher ups in the organization, and they ran the center here. He was a music professor at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, UMSL for short, before he retired, and joined the organization full time. The center, by the way was in a very fashionable area. At any rate, my take away from that experience was this notion of an "I AM Presence", of which a violet flame or ray is said to be an integral part, and has a purifying influence. And I believe this violet ray is the seventh ray, according to Ascended Master lore. So, I always liked that idea and adopted it as my handle here. If you'd like me to elaborate on anything about this, I'd be happy to, as I enjoy talking about it, even if the extent of my "investment", in it, is just in my handle, and as a concept I find of interest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I am still curious why you picked the word seventhray for your e-mail. You never answered my question. Just curious. Xenophaneros, for example, means literally 'alien made visible' or 'from a foreign/strange/unfamiliar place made manifest'. Steve (from Stephanos, also a Greek name) means 'crown'. As everything is essentially nothing, it is possible to create a positive argument for any situation, because opposites are in the end, equally opposed to each other and manifest from the same source which is void of all properties including being void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you know, of course, what does not make one hell of a lot of sense, and that is, you have enough "content", and ideas to start your own group, strictly of like minded individuals. Would you possibly be willing to humor me, by telling me, why you insist on remaining here, apparently trying to convert those have a different approach to spiritual endeavours and intellectual discussions in general? I mean, I get the impression you could dissect most anything to reach most any conclusion. I guess, I know the reason for that. You would quickly run out of things to discuss. And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the viol
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
sure, as I said, I don't have much investment in the whole idea. It was just something that piqued my interest. I dare say, it seems that many have come up with their handles in a similar way, i.e. something they have identified with, or have some affinity for, and it shows up in some form, as their handle. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I do find this interesting. Violet and purple are colours that some associate with spirituality, so I read somewhere once. Not sure how people come up with these things. I have always like violet colours, blues, and grey. But I would bet that if you looked into this there would be a lot of disagreement. Examples I quickly found on the web: PURPLE (violet): This colour relates to the imagination and spirituality. It stimulates the imagination and inspires high ideals. It is an introspective colour, allowing us to get in touch with our deeper thoughts. TURQUOISE: Helps to open the lines of communication between the heart and the spoken word. It presents as a friendly and happy colour enjoying life. In colour psychology, turquoise controls and heals the emotions creating emotional balance and stability. On one site, GREEN symbolised life, but I was told some years ago that in Africa, green signifies death, that there are cultural associations that differ from geographical area to area with regard to colour. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sure, no problem. There was a period of about three months (perhaps twenty years ago) when I visited the Saint Germain Foundation here in St. Louis. Someone had related some stories about St. Germain which I found interesting. It turns out that Arnold Perris and his wife were higher ups in the organization, and they ran the center here. He was a music professor at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, UMSL for short, before he retired, and joined the organization full time. The center, by the way was in a very fashionable area. At any rate, my take away from that experience was this notion of an "I AM Presence", of which a violet flame or ray is said to be an integral part, and has a purifying influence. And I believe this violet ray is the seventh ray, according to Ascended Master lore. So, I always liked that idea and adopted it as my handle here. If you'd like me to elaborate on anything about this, I'd be happy to, as I enjoy talking about it, even if the extent of my "investment", in it, is just in my handle, and as a concept I find of interest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I am still curious why you picked the word seventhray for your e-mail. You never answered my question. Just curious. Xenophaneros, for example, means literally 'alien made visible' or 'from a foreign/strange/unfamiliar place made manifest'. Steve (from Stephanos, also a Greek name) means 'crown'. As everything is essentially nothing, it is possible to create a positive argument for any situation, because opposites are in the end, equally opposed to each other and manifest from the same source which is void of all properties including being void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you know, of course, what does not make one hell of a lot of sense, and that is, you have enough "content", and ideas to start your own group, strictly of like minded individuals. Would you possibly be willing to humor me, by telling me, why you insist on remaining here, apparently trying to convert those have a different approach to spiritual endeavours and intellectual discussions in general? I mean, I get the impression you could dissect most anything to reach most any conclusion. I guess, I know the reason for that. You would quickly run out of things to discuss. And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" ...For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. Interesting. You certainly make a good case for how difficult Doug's job will be. Just riffing on this theoretical scenario, Anartaxius, do you think it would be easier for Doug to make such a Solomon-like decision if the person who had been named as the stupidest person on FFL had made eight posts just in the two days since Doug was made moderator, *each* of them violating the Yahoo Guidelines in some way? Of course I do not know. Suppose we called someone a criminal. Now that might violate the guidelines. But suppose that person was arrested the next day for a felony? Would the person making the now correct call be reinstated? Doug in posting definitions of various kinds of slurs included the word 'irreverence' but that word does not appear in the guidelines. I think that kicking a person off FFL for irreverence would be a violation of free speech, for from a religious person's view, an atheist is irreverent but has just as much right under U.S. law as people who have more difficulty grasping logic and fact. The religious unaffiliated are now 28.8% of the U.S. population, more than mainline Protestant, Catholic, and non-Christian believers. The only group larger than the 'nones' as they are called, is the Evangelical Christians. In the Netherlands, the religiously unaffiliated are 42.1% of the population and it is increasing. People are not just posting from the United States here. The 'nones' are 27.8% of the United Kingdom (as long as it remains united anyway). All good points. As for me, I don't know how Doug is going to work out in his new position as the moderator he's always wanted to be. His intent may be good, but I don't think I'm alone in questioning his ability to act fairly. I think the first indication of whether he can or not will be revealed in how he reacts -- or even IF he reacts -- to my two posts about his practice of spamming what *he* considers "The Yahoo Groups Guidelines" every day. As I've suggested, the first 307 words of that message (which has been reposted seemingly dozens of times now) strike me as OK, because they mainly ARE the actual Yahoo Guidelines, along with a few definitions of terms. The 1,300+ words that follow, however, are just one long rant by Doug, and one that strikes me as incredibly biased in support of one small group of people here and their viewpoint, while being equally incredibly bigoted *against* another group and *their* viewpoint. I honestly don't see how anyone who wishes to even *pretend* to be fair can keep posting it. In a very real sense, it's like someone who has been recently elected as a large corporation's Chief Equality Officer to insure that all races are treated equally releasing a daily memo whose first 300 words are the actual rules that prohibit discrimination, followed by a 1,300+ word diatribe against niggers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : : : And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. So, why do you never share either experiences or insights? But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Uh, James, I shared one just the other day. Did you miss it? I thought it was a rather unique experience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : : : And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. So, why do you never share either experiences or insights? But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Yes, FFL is categorized as a 'spiritual' group. One would hope that people could trust that they could post reflecting here on this yahoo-group about their spiritual experience without incurring personal abuse. Please note the yahoo-guidelines saying, “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” and “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Uh, James, I shared one just the other day. Did you miss it? I thought it was a rather unique experience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : : : And, of course, the purpose of any group like this, should be to try to share some experiences, and insights. So, why do you never share either experiences or insights? But, usually the temptation to become troll like is too great, and before long the interaction deteriorates along those lines. "I'm not a troll, he's a troll" "Huh. How dare you imply I'm a troll" "You want troll, I'll give you troll" "Okay, I'll see your trollness, and raise you by five degrees of troll" Announcer: And so the ends the latest installment of "How the Trolls Turn. Join us next week, when the trolls take their troll battle across the Atlantic to Merry Old England" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile identity. So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the comment must squarely aim at the violatee. For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's 'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL. Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and prevarication. Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical, the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence, it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines, coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.so far.. we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new moderator installed by Rick. and we know why this is to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is something that will be fought against, tooth and nail. according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly), "Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new guidelines"
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
You left off part of the guideline Doug. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, FFL is categorized as a 'spiritual' group. One would hope that people could trust that they could post reflecting here on this yahoo-group about their spiritual experience without incurring personal abuse. Please note the yahoo-guidelines saying, “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” and “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” If you wouldn't say it in public or with a group of friends, don't post it. When a person does have a 'spiritual' experience it is a good thing to find out if it is real or not, or if they are just mood making or making a mistake. The only evidence we have if someone has had a spiritual experience is if they say something. So what you do is you ask questions about that experience to see how well it holds up under scrutiny, to see if the person has any understanding of what they have just said. If there is a genuine experience, they should be able to come up with additional comments about it without much difficulty. If they stonewall you, that leads to the suspicion maybe they were putting you on, or that they made the statement from the viewpoint of the ego and are trying to get some mileage out it. That is, they maybe did have an experience, but now the ego stands in the way, looking for strokes. A spiritual experience is a road sign. You pass a lot of them on the way to whatever; once they pass, looking back takes you back in the opposite direction you want to go, even though spiritual progress is not really about going anywhere. Remember all the quotations Rick put on the Home Page of FFL: What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. Whatever you think, it's more than that Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. Take what you need and leave the rest. I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for the truth; and truth rewarded me. Another question: Is a moderator allowed to threaten a person on FFL with expulsion, since one of the guidelines is 'don't threaten'? I still have not figured out who the stupidest person on FFL is. I think Barry knows. Maybe it's me. Historical insults and put-downs Mark Twain: "The trouble ain't there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." Oscar Wilde: "Some cause happiness wherever they go, others whenever they go." Kurt Vonnegut Jr.: "If your brains were dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your hat off." Kierkegaard: "My opponent is a glob of snot." Winston Churchill: "Americans will always try to do the right thing — after they've tried everything else." Christopher Hitchens: "If you gave Jerry Falwell an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox." Aristotle: "It is Homer who has chiefly taught other poets the art of lying skilfully." John Adams: "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." Groucho Marx: "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you — he really is an idiot." EE Cummings: "A politician is an arse upon which everyone has sat except a man".
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" Historical insults and put-downs Mark Twain: "The trouble ain't there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here, if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the ax? Let me hit send and see if it was me. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nich
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here, if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the ax? Let me hit send and see if it was me. Nope I got that one, you must not have transgressed the guidelines meant for idiot newbies. Maybe Doug is going to remove us like Stalin did in that photo of the Politburo in Red Square where people got airbrushed away one at a time until there was only a couple left and total conformity was achieved. Why do I feel uneasy like I should point out that was a joke? I guess that's how paranoia works... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines || || Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. || | View on policies.yahoo.com |Preview by Yahoo| || # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum. Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control. The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people we
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. Yeah. Like Michael, I seriously wondered when I pressed Send whether my post would go through. :-) But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the *actual* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines being posted regularly. What I object to are the 1,300+ words of insulting SPAM that Doug has chosen to follow them with. They were written by a fictional persona named Buck that Doug is not supposed to be channeling in his duties as FFL moderator. And yet Doug is reposting them as if *his rant* is an integral part of the guidelines. I find that remarkably un-self-aware and offensive. Not to mention being contrary to what he promised Rick. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. Yeah. Like Michael, I seriously wondered when I pressed Send whether my post would go through. :-) Ha, me too. But my eyes went to the "new topic" button to see if it was still there or was I doomed to never to waffle on FFL again... But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the *actual* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines being posted regularly. What I object to are the 1,300+ words of insulting SPAM that Doug has chosen to follow them with. They were written by a fictional persona named Buck that Doug is not supposed to be channeling in his duties as FFL moderator. And yet Doug is reposting them as if *his rant* is an integral part of the guidelines. I find that remarkably un-self-aware and offensive. Not to mention being contrary to what he promised Rick. I don't mind seeing them either, as long as no one minds me ignoring them occasionally. I'd hate to be a member of any club that would accept me, as Groucho Marx kinda said. The only thing that annoys me here is when people come here just to whine and criticise and make the place unreadable, as a certain gentleman from Texas has admitted doing. Be the change you want to see in the world. That's what I say. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc
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All of what I say below said, and meant, I don't think I'm alone here in saying that if the poster banned for outing someone turns out to be Tedious Dickhead, we can consider Doug's short tenure as FFL moderator a total success. :-) From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. Yeah. Like Michael, I seriously wondered when I pressed Send whether my post would go through. :-) But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the *actual* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines being posted regularly. What I object to are the 1,300+ words of insulting SPAM that Doug has chosen to follow them with. They were written by a fictional persona named Buck that Doug is not supposed to be channeling in his duties as FFL moderator. And yet Doug is reposting them as if *his rant* is an integral part of the guidelines. I find that remarkably un-self-aware and offensive. Not to mention being contrary to what he promised Rick. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-gr
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Don't see how you could EVER get the boot from Doug in the Dome, Sal. You have done so much in the past for the TMO, and have consistently been of a favorable mind towards TM the technique itself. No, you would have to do something mighty egregious to merit dismissal and banishment. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here, if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the ax? Let me hit send and see if it was me. Nope I got that one, you must not have transgressed the guidelines meant for idiot newbies. Maybe Doug is going to remove us like Stalin did in that photo of the Politburo in Red Square where people got airbrushed away one at a time until there was only a couple left and total conformity was achieved. Why do I feel uneasy like I should point out that was a joke? I guess that's how paranoia works... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to be
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That is kind of how the Peak seems to me, the few times I took a look - its all "Oh, that was a fine post you posted there! That is wonderful!" and variations on that sort of theme. Nice, but not very engaging for long. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack. It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to stand up to bullies who w
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is kind of how the Peak seems to me, the few times I took a look - its all "Oh, that was a fine post you posted there! That is wonderful!" and variations on that sort of theme. Nice, but not very engaging for long. Yes, I tire of the anodyne blandness of mood-making spiritual types very quickly. I believe the actual meaning of the word Nirvana is "without fire" or "extinguished". So maybe they think they are better off when all their passion has gone? I doubt it though, what are a few choice words or a knee-jerk rant between friends eh? You've got to care about something enough to get excited about it or you've lost something important I think. Or maybe not, maybe we'd all be happier as the Yahoo Stepford Wives club? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Speaking of the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines, I just wanted to let you know that the 1,680-word rant that someone keeps spamming to Fairfield Life in violation of the guidelines has shown up again. Some hacker seems to have pasted it into your post, just after the announcement. Much of it (everything after the first 300 words or so) seems to have been written by a previous poster to Fairfield Life who, as I understand it, was specifically asked by Rick not to insinuate his faux persona into the duties of moderator. Just sayin'... I know you'll want to get right on this. Turq B survived the first putsch. That's a relief. But I think the guidelines will be posted regularly to keep the fear quotient high. Uniform blandness will be achieved! From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yaho
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't see how you could EVER get the boot from Doug in the Dome, Sal. You have done so much in the past for the TMO, and have consistently been of a favorable mind towards TM the technique itself. No, you would have to do something mighty egregious to merit dismissal and banishment. You can tell I'm not enlightened because I instantly saw that as a challenge ;-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here, if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the ax? Let me hit send and see if it was me. Nope I got that one, you must not have transgressed the guidelines meant for idiot newbies. Maybe Doug is going to remove us like Stalin did in that photo of the Politburo in Red Square where people got airbrushed away one at a time until there was only a couple left and total conformity was achieved. Why do I feel uneasy like I should point out that was a joke? I guess that's how paranoia works... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don't be unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups Guidelines https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. View on policies.yahoo.com https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo # [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership by removing or separating destructive asocial mem
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Maybe it is just your refined Creative Intelligence kicking in, you know cause you have stored so much of it up, doin' TM and all. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't see how you could EVER get the boot from Doug in the Dome, Sal. You have done so much in the past for the TMO, and have consistently been of a favorable mind towards TM the technique itself. No, you would have to do something mighty egregious to merit dismissal and banishment. You can tell I'm not enlightened because I instantly saw that as a challenge ;-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here, if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the ax? Let me hit send and see if it was me. Nope I got that one, you must not have transgressed the guidelines meant for idiot newbies. Maybe Doug is going to remove us like Stalin did in that photo of the Politburo in Red Square where people got airbrushed away one at a time until there was only a couple left and total conformity was achieved. Why do I feel uneasy like I should point out that was a joke? I guess that's how paranoia works... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? "Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content." “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group altogether." “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit oradvantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful. Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. "Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe unkind”. "We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]." Yahoo Groups Guidelines | | | | Yahoo Groups Guidelines Yahoo Groups helps you connect with groups of people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help keep it a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. | | | View on policies.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | # [..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive asocial members. There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to be
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There is no rule that says he has to be let back on to respond. He dug his grave and now needs to lie in it. It's his karma. Who knows how many groups and sites he's been booted from for being obnoxious. Someone his age and background should know better. Posting what is essentially "graffiti postings" will get you the boot from many moderators. On 06/17/2015 10:02 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It was Richard, and if you guys have any smarts at all, you'll all just STFU about it so that he can't complain that you're all talking smack about him and demand to be let back in so that he can respond. BTW, it was Rick, not Buck, who did the deed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received a compliant having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL that was actionable. The offending post was removed and the author of the invasion on someone's privacy using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removed from the community. -JaiGuruYou Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their absence? !
