[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "purushaz" purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Yeah, but what if Marek is the public defender, chanting away, and the prosecutor in the case is one of your guys, also chanting away. Who gets the 20% edge, eh? :-) Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line "Panel". Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. I'd hate to see how many billions of years you get if you don't give up your room to pundit-in-trainig... scarry! Imagine if the universe wasn't friendly? JohnY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) *** There are stern warnings in the Shiva Purana about unqualified people (and this is much more than just being a veggie) performing the Gayatri Mantra, and many rules (too long to list here) are listed for those who are qualified to perform it: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. ** TM is for everybody -- other powerful Vedic routines are not, so you might want to think about not messing with it, or at least reading the Shiva Purana to find out what's what. It's good to admire Vedic routines, but I don't think it's reasonable to pick what you like to do and not pay attention to the guidelines which are offered. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Exactly. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. Oh, they still work, on the people they work on. That's what those who invoke such rules count on. Nothing works as well as superstition to control a population; it's even more effective than other forms of coercion. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. But that would involve *working*. No soup for you. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. snip Damn-- *Now* you tell me! Oh well, 4.3 billion years isn't *that* long...maybe I'll take up a hobby...like collecting hubcaps or something... Don't worry, Jim, you'll have me for company (nudge nudge wink wink). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? They turn into Republicans, cut taxes for the wealthy, wage war in strange lands, and finally leave their hearth and home and join Purusha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? Hell-dimension dude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
If the real "vedic" Natural Law was applied in matters TM, all westerners would be mlecchas--equal to untouchables. That might just be why they feel they can milk us for money and feel no remorse. After all, it's written in the book.On Oct 29, 2006, at 12:51 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:"Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]." Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? Hell-dimension dude. Hominids have been eating animals for millions of years, but I'm supposed to believe that eating animals somehow violates Natural Law and is a crime worthy of being sent to some hell-dimension? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
It violates the "Total Natural Law", Sir Alex. The laws operate differently once an entity reaches the level of the intellect. The Shastras themselves say that the law of Dharma does not apply to animals because they have no intellect. Any intellectual entity who can distinguish from right or wrong is obliged to follow the "Total Natural Law".Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:02:40 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistanceHominids have been eating animals for millions of years, but I'msupposed to believe that eating animals somehow violates "Natural Law" and is a crime worthy of being sent to some "hell-dimension" ? Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Of course there's rudraksha for all these issues such as cheating with the gurus wife and then killing him. I think the fourteen faced cures that. Nothing outdoes the cleaning power of Shiva Mahadev!!! - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? Hell-dimension dude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the real vedic Natural Law was applied in matters TM, all westerners would be mlecchas--equal to untouchables. That might just be why they feel they can milk us for money and feel no remorse. After all, it's written in the book. Which book and what does it say? You aren't thinking of the Koran, are you, because it claims we're apes and pigs or something. On Oct 29, 2006, at 12:51 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
This Vaj is crazy. He hurls accusations without giving any clues at all. According to the Vedic Philosophy the 4 Varnas are based on duty and not birth. In ancient times the system was flexible. If one changes his occupation he naturaly becomes another Varna. Over the course of centuries the system became rigid and dogmatic. Perhaps Vaj has confused the teachings of the Koran with the Vedic Philosophy. In Islamic traditions, If you kill an infidel, his wife becomes your property and you can do whatever you want to do with her. Do you like theidea ShempMcGurk.??ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:15:12 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistanceWhich book and what does it say?You aren't thinking of the Koran, are you, because it claims we're apes and pigs or something.--- Vaj vajranatha@ ... wrote: If the real "vedic" Natural Law was applied in matters TM, all westerners would be mlecchas--equal to untouchables. That might just be why they feel they can milk us for money and feel no remorse. After all, it's written in the book. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. snip Damn-- *Now* you tell me! Oh well, 4.3 billion years isn't *that* long...maybe I'll take up a hobby...like collecting hubcaps or something... Don't worry, Jim, you'll have me for company (nudge nudge wink wink). Great! PS A '73 Buick Skylark just lost its front right cap! A beaut- no dents! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its actually descriptive vs perscriptive. All of this is just descriptions of inner states and consequences. Sort of like in the West when we say we are 'worried sick' or 'feeling blue', it is a precise description of the inner state and its consequences. The literal intepretation is meant to hide its true meaning and value (or does so through the function of time in any case). I honestly think you are more enlightened than the A-holes who wrote this coercive nonsense Jim. Not that I am much of a scholar, but I do see that this info has been badly misintepreted. It is meant to just be correlates of states of consciousness and has nothing at all with laws of living or how one should act. Unfortunately this misinterpretation has spread to all of the religions, believing that if one acts in a certain way, a specific level of consciousness will be attained. A poisonous, misleading and repressive point of view. Fortunately knowledge always eventually lands on its right side up. No need to pay attention to the other stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. So for world coherence, westerners are sort of like purifying deep negative spots -- like prisons. Can't have them chanting or doing yagyas. HMMM what to do. Ah,, have then hop around on their asses. After a life of that, they may gain enough merit to be born as an untouchable. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. So for world coherence, westerners are sort of like purifying deep negative spots -- like prisons. Can't have them chanting or doing yagyas. HMMM what to do. Ah,, have then hop around on their asses. After a life of that, they may gain enough merit to be born as an untouchable. Actually, they can only hop around on their asses until one of proper caste comes to replace them, sort of 'temporary ass hoppers'. That must be between mix-ups and unseeables. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking about the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap westerners for money. Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Well I can cop to my own waking state ignorance, but I never heard MMY deny the details or the caste system contained in the Vedic texts in this way. Sanatana Dharma is in full support for the caste system and Guru Dev was its champion. So even though your point may be valid in MMY's system for the 4 main Vedas, the texts that came later make specific claims about the world. One of those details are the structure of the caste system which is supported by MMY every time he talks about it. If what you said was true of the later texts, there would be no Ayur or Stapatya Vedas with their detailed instructions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) *** There are stern warnings in the Shiva Purana about unqualified people (and this is much more than just being a veggie) performing the Gayatri Mantra, and many rules (too long to list here) are listed for those who are qualified to perform it: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. ** TM is for everybody -- other powerful Vedic routines are not, so you might want to think about not messing with it, or at least reading the Shiva Purana to find out what's what. It's good to admire Vedic routines, but I don't think it's reasonable to pick what you like to do and not pay attention to the guidelines which are offered. Gayatri is often recommended to reduce kapha so as you can probably guess it is a heating mantra and will probably increase pitta which could be a little troublesome for pitta westerners. Of course you need to know how to pronounce it properly before practicing it. That's where a personal guru comes in handy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking about the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap westerners for money. Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious JohnY Hi, I missed that original part of the thread. In any case I really can't see full grown adults as victims, nor Maharishi's attitudes towards those he deals with as condescending. It doesn't feel accurate to me. Regarding the TMO tapping westerners for money, who knows? I gave 'em fifty bucks to help bring over the pundits, which I consider money well spent (perhaps it paid for 30 minutes of bag- piping?!...), though it has been about ten years since I last donated anything. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
I think others have answered this question but I might offer some info based on my own experience. When I was leading a very sattvic life in many respects this one elderly Pundit who could see auras commented favorably on mine and after a short discussion suggested I could do Gayatri. I soon had a terrible omen dream where I saw stars moving wildly like the earth was falling out of its normal orbit. I mentioned this to that Pundit and he immediately said that I must be eating meat. I said occaisionally yes and he said you are not qualified to do gayatri But he said if I became pure vegetarian and did a full repetition of the Guru planet mantra during that year ( its the one that is approx Devanaancha rishi naancha gurum kanchansannibham bhudhibhutam...)in addition to what I was already doing then I could do Gayatri. I never tried. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Gayatri is often recommended to reduce kapha so as you can probably guess it is a heating mantra and will probably increase pitta which could be a little troublesome for pitta westerners. I find the Gayatri Mantra and habanero peppers to be a perfectly pleasant and acceptable combo, and I have a pitta-kapha constitution. Of course you need to know how to pronounce it properly before practicing it. That's where a personal guru comes in handy. Either that, or a really good recording. I learned by chanting along with Karunamayi's recording for many hours. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) Why not? What happens if a non-vegetarian chants the Gayatri? Hell-dimension dude. Hominids have been eating animals for millions of years, but I'm supposed to believe that eating animals somehow violates Natural Law and is a crime worthy of being sent to some hell-dimension? Only when chanting the Gayatri? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Vaj is crazy. He hurls accusations without giving any clues at all. According to the Vedic Philosophy the 4 Varnas are based on duty and not birth. In ancient times the system was flexible. If one changes his occupation he naturaly becomes another Varna. Especially after the British invasion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. There are many Jews that feel that way about non-Jews also. Are you saying that most Jews or most Hindus feel that way? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking about the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap westerners for money. Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious JohnY Hi, I missed that original part of the thread. In any case I really can't see full grown adults as victims, nor Maharishi's attitudes towards those he deals with as condescending. It doesn't feel accurate to me. Not victims, but dealt with dishonestly. You don't think that taking money and not using it for it's stated purpose is both dishonest and condescending? It's not good to use someone's ignorance against them. Regarding the TMO tapping westerners for money, who knows? I gave 'em fifty bucks to help bring over the pundits, which I consider money well spent (perhaps it paid for 30 minutes of bag- piping?!...), though it has been about ten years since I last donated anything. Minimizing the reality doesn't change it. Without the millions (and millions) from the west Maharishi would still be in a basement in Utter Kashi. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking about the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap westerners for money. Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious JohnY Hi, I missed that original part of the thread. In any case I really can't see full grown adults as victims, nor Maharishi's attitudes towards those he deals with as condescending. It doesn't feel accurate to me. Not victims, but dealt with dishonestly. You don't think that taking money and not using it for it's stated purpose is both dishonest and condescending? It's not good to use someone's ignorance against them. Which money specifically? Regarding the TMO tapping westerners for money, who knows? I gave 'em fifty bucks to help bring over the pundits, which I consider money well spent (perhaps it paid for 30 minutes of bag- piping?!...), though it has been about ten years since I last donated anything. Minimizing the reality doesn't change it. Without the millions (and millions) from the west Maharishi would still be in a basement in Utter Kashi. Which is why he came out here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of Westerners as I understand it. We are not even untouchables who are in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back to the original Rishis. We are what MMY referred to in India as the mix-ups because we have no clear lineage, and would require more purification because of our low birth. Vaj's point that such low lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump. In the Vedic system the unsee-ables, below untouchables, have to ring a bell so people can avert their eyes as they walked around. We are below that status in the Vedic system. We are out-castes, the lowest humans in the Vedic system. This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The Vedas are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations have as much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting children have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous misintepritation based on waking state ignorance. That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking about the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap westerners for money. Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious JohnY Hi, I missed that original part of the thread. In any case I really can't see full grown adults as victims, nor Maharishi's attitudes towards those he deals with as condescending. It doesn't feel accurate to me. Not victims, but dealt with dishonestly. You don't think that taking money and not using it for it's stated purpose is both dishonest and condescending? It's not good to use someone's ignorance against them. Which money specifically? Regarding the TMO tapping westerners for money, who knows? I gave 'em fifty bucks to help bring over the pundits, which I consider money well spent (perhaps it paid for 30 minutes of bag- piping?!...), though it has been about ten years since I last donated anything. Minimizing the reality doesn't change it. Without the millions (and millions) from the west Maharishi would still be in a basement in Utter Kashi. Which is why he came out here. Yup, but I think that 'win-win' is better than 'win-screwover'. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line Panel. Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
This is great are there any other lawyer types in this forum looking for corporates - Original Message From: purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:57:05 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line "Panel". Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
A Baglamukhi Yantra is what is commomly used for winning legal disputes. purushaz wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line Panel. Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Yeah, but what if Marek is the public defender, chanting away, and the prosecutor in the case is one of your guys, also chanting away. Who gets the 20% edge, eh? :-) Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line Panel. Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
I would counter with the Mahamrytunjaya. Instead of closing arguments we could engage in dueling vibrations a la Vedic Vibration Technology. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Yeah, but what if Marek is the public defender, chanting away, and the prosecutor in the case is one of your guys, also chanting away. Who gets the 20% edge, eh? :-) Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line Panel. Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Snip** I am not a lawyer, but from what I have read about jury selection, you need to be concerned more about each juror's personality profile than about the presentation of your case. In other words, you pick a jury whose prejudices are likely to result in a favorable outcome for your client (the defense guys who set up the O.J. Simpson jury did a great job) regardless of the merit of what you have to say. This is similar to the way politics is conducted these days -- there is little or no attempt to change people's minds, but pols attempt to energize their base and get them to donate and vote. So, in your case, I'm not sure your presentation, with a group that is unlikely to reflect the jury pool you will be drawing from, is going to do you any good. If you had any money, instead of being a public defender, you could rent a jury in your locale and make your pitch, getting feedback from people who are a good demographic mix representing your likely jury pool, and this kind of feedback would be useful, but I don't see this list as being in any way representative of the jurors you are likely to see in court. **End** Yes, you are entirely correct. Delving into the individual personality profile part is what's called jury selection, or voir dire, which is normally done orally; attorneys question potential jurors regarding issues they (the lawyers) are planning on addressing and attempt to expose biases and prejudices in the jurors that may be helpful or unhelpful. And in all capital cases (death penalty), and even in most homicides, there will be a jury questionnaire carefully prepared and crafted, with the assistance of professional jury consultants, and even sometimes the rental juries you referred to, so as to really hone in on the type of juror the defense wants for the case. Even so, jury selection is more of an art than anything else and sometimes you just don't get the result you want and find out, after trial, some of the ideas and thoughts in the minds of the jurors were ones that you hadn't considered or fully addressed, etc. (...and sometimes the facts don't allow more than a single conclusion...) Without question, this particular group (FFL) is way off the charts as far as being representational of any other demographic I could even imagine having to select from. But, precisely because FFL is so peculiar, and so peculiarly gifted, I wanted to bounce around some ideas regarding the overall strategy of the case (and the theme *is* the strategy), if anyone wanted to. If nothing else, it struck me as an interesting idea. I'll find out. A couple of people have already contacted me. Probably by Monday, whoever has emailed me by then, that'll be the group. It'll probably be a back and forth for several days or maybe a couple of weeks at the most. At least that's my guess. Jury selection doesn't begin until November 7 and will last at least 2 weeks, maybe 3. So there's lots of stuff to deal with and think about and prepare for, and this seemed like it could be fun. See how it goes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. ** I am not a lawyer, but from what I have read about jury selection, you need to be concerned more about each juror's personality profile than about the presentation of your case. In other words, you pick a jury whose prejudices are likely to result in a favorable outcome for your client (the defense guys who set up the O.J. Simpson jury did a great job) regardless of the merit of what you have to say. This is similar to the way politics is conducted these days -- there is little or no attempt to change people's minds, but pols attempt to energize their base and get them to donate and vote. So, in your case, I'm not sure your presentation, with a group that is unlikely to reflect the jury pool you will be drawing from, is going to do you any good. If you had any money, instead of being a public defender, you could rent a jury in your locale and make your pitch, getting feedback from people who are a good demographic mix representing your likely jury pool, and this kind of feedback would be useful, but I don't see this list as being in any way representative of the jurors you are likely to see in court. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested. I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as a Public Defender in California, and the case against my client involves the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) and I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and strategies I'm working with. It would be an outside forum, off FFL. So if you're willing to participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days using the Subject line Panel. Without compromising any confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, and most importantly, my contemplated trial theme. I'm looking for feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, etc. -- that sort of thing. Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury focus group. If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and give you the rundown. Thanks. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) *** There are stern warnings in the Shiva Purana about unqualified people (and this is much more than just being a veggie) performing the Gayatri Mantra, and many rules (too long to list here) are listed for those who are qualified to perform it: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. ** TM is for everybody -- other powerful Vedic routines are not, so you might want to think about not messing with it, or at least reading the Shiva Purana to find out what's what. It's good to admire Vedic routines, but I don't think it's reasonable to pick what you like to do and not pay attention to the guidelines which are offered. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz purushaz@ wrote: ---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California. What you should be doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra. This will help you win in your court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Don't try this unless you are a pure vegetarian (gayatri) *** There are stern warnings in the Shiva Purana about unqualified people (and this is much more than just being a veggie) performing the Gayatri Mantra, and many rules (too long to list here) are listed for those who are qualified to perform it: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. ** TM is for everybody -- other powerful Vedic routines are not, so you might want to think about not messing with it, or at least reading the Shiva Purana to find out what's what. It's good to admire Vedic routines, but I don't think it's reasonable to pick what you like to do and not pay attention to the guidelines which are offered. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. snip Damn-- *Now* you tell me! Oh well, 4.3 billion years isn't *that* long...maybe I'll take up a hobby...like collecting hubcaps or something... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. Its actually descriptive vs perscriptive. All of this is just descriptions of inner states and consequences. Sort of like in the West when we say we are 'worried sick' or 'feeling blue', it is a precise description of the inner state and its consequences. The literal intepretation is meant to hide its true meaning and value (or does so through the function of time in any case). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance
Its actually descriptive vs perscriptive. All of this is just descriptions of inner states and consequences. Sort of like in the West when we say we are 'worried sick' or 'feeling blue', it is a precise description of the inner state and its consequences. The literal intepretation is meant to hide its true meaning and value (or does so through the function of time in any case). I honestly think you are more enlightened than the A-holes who wrote this coercive nonsense Jim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Kailasasamhita Ch. 13 - 57: After thinking thus the intelligent devotee shall perform the Japa of Gayatri...58: The sinner who repeats Gayatri in any other manner is tortured in the terrible hell for the period of kalpa [~4.3 billion years]. Let me guess...banging a Brahman's wife gets ya 5 billion years in an ugabuga terrible hell. Not giving money to a Brahman, when he hits you up for a fiver to get a six pack, gets ya a bunch of billion years in a bad bad hell that smells bad and is bad. And should a person not obey all the orders of a Brahman, they will be tortured in a bad place and it will be hell and it will be hot and not nice and the food will be bad and your clothes will not fit and people will be rude to you for about 3.5 billion years or even more, and you will not like it and you should obey Brahmans who made up these rules. Call me ignorant, but I'm going with a total F the Brahmans philosophy. All these phony rules were made up for an ancient power play, and they don't work anymore cuz now we can all read. So now the Brahmans can all get real jobs like the rest of us, and stop extorting money with their made-up silly threats about hell. Peace out. Its actually descriptive vs perscriptive. All of this is just descriptions of inner states and consequences. Sort of like in the West when we say we are 'worried sick' or 'feeling blue', it is a precise description of the inner state and its consequences. The literal intepretation is meant to hide its true meaning and value (or does so through the function of time in any case). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
