[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   spare egg Lawson English wrote:
coldbluiceman wrote:
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
Alex Stanley wrote:
  spare egg wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote: 
 As no pundit worth his salt would 
 make a claim
 (or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate 
 a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could 
 change the course of human events.
 Lawson English wrote:
  What is a mahayagya,O Sagacious One?
  John A. Stanley wrote:
This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg??
  
  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
  i must politley inform you that the photo you 
  are looking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
  Jamuna/Yamuna river.
  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
  every 12 years at the 
  junction of the three sacred rivers 
  (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
  and attended by more than 40 million people. 
  Now the dates of the 
  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
  using astrological 
  calculations based upon the placement of 
  planet Jupiter, also there 
  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
  on the Jamuna River.
  
   ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
  in rotation at 
  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
  according to the 
  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
  A modern innovation, there are 
  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
  every six years at Haridwar 
  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
  Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
  that the largest number of human beings in 
  history gathered--15 
  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
  logistically less convenient, 
  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
  Still, that's five times this 
  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
  to Mecca for the 
  Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
  
  Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
  believe that photo is??
  
   According to Steve Perino, 
   no pundit worth his salt would make the
   claim that would 
   insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
   Vedic verses could change the course of human 
   events
  
  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
  his doctors have screened 
  him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
  But having said that- if indeed that 
  was a world peace gathering 
  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
  It sadly did not have the 
  desired effect as how many estimated 
  millions died during Summer 1944
  and Summer 1945 in WWII??
  
  How many a-bombs did we drop on 
  Japan in the Summer of 1945?
 
 
 I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
 merely on your claim that they are 
 not traditional.

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??

Stop making this stuff up!!..
i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
get professional help.

 I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
with desired personal 
results for all aspects of family life 
with regards to *PERSONAL* 
spiritual upliftment:
1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
3. EQUALITY 
4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
http://urday.com/panch-2.html

 Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
 
Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
now please 
get screened by your professional 
mental health care provider..for 
your family's sake.
 
   Heh. So mahayagya is only for the individual? 
   The term pancha 
   mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
   to individual daily rituals.

  Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
  i must politley remind you the term- pancha 
  refers to count of 5 
  items or things.
  For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
  Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.

 Yes, and the term pancha mahayajnas or
 pancha mahayagyas refers specifically to 
 rituals performed by individuals.

  i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

 Who told you that?

   However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
   rituals done by massive groups for many 
   different purposes. Had you done a google search 
   on mahayagya rather than pancha 
   mahayagya you would have noted this 
   immediately 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
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[...]

I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll. Yesterday, I only had 2 hours 
sleep and then was 
so wired that I forgot to meditate. My OCD tends to flare up in such 
circumstances...

 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
 [...]
 
 I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
  Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
 so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
 My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...

Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
The day before you made accusations of- 
 me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
undermine the tmo pundit project.

Think you can stay on-topic today?

If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
arrival in America..
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=

Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
(orange) kurti/dhotis of the *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
Shankaracharya Tradition!!***
Look at the old photos of-- Sri Vhibuushiit Jyosimutt Shankaracharya
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati..., He is wearing the orange dhoti
indicating He has taken sanyas diksha in the Shankaracharya
Tradition!!

And, from the pictures you directed us to in your post regarding 
the pundit compound in India.., none of the pundits were any 
orange kurtas/dhotis in those photos either!!..all ARE WEARING 
SIMPLE WHITE KURTAS/DHOTIS!!
 
Now to the indian tmo pundit compound and the pundits..
2. if you choose to look at the recent violent events in India with
regards to the Tamil Tigers in the South India, and the Islamic
terrorists in North India  and Kashmir.., i would guess the tmo
pandits as trained by Brahmachari Mahesh are not doing a very good
job in preventing wars...in there own country.

So, in a cursory view i would say the *Anticipated Results* of Dr.
John Hagelin are not going to happen as a direct result of the tmo
pundit project...

And, as a side note--i just dont see how your OCD tangents in this
thread regarding Hindu pundits is any related to tmo pundits as
we were led to believe that the tmo /tm/pandits, etc are *NON-
religious* in nature!!.

Think you need your meds tweeked?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
Feeding the trolls again...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
  [...]
  
  I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
   Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
  so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
  My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...
 
 Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
 You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
 The day before you made accusations of- 
  me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
 undermine the tmo pundit project.
 
 Think you can stay on-topic today?
 
 If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
 First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
 arrival in America..
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=
 
 Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
 1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
 (orange) kurti/dhotis of the *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
 Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
 Shankaracharya Tradition!!***

So pandits/pundits must all be sanyasin? It would be kinda hard to organize and 
daily 
participate in mass yagyas involving hundreds or thousands of fellow 
renunciates if you 
were a medicant monk, I think...

Come to think of it, if all pundits must be sanyasin, where do little pundits 
come from and 
who teaches them, by the hundreds or thousands? Certainly not their fellow 
renunciates 
because that would be, well, wordly of them...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
coldbluiceman wrote:
   [...]
   
   I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
   so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
   My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...
  
  Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
  You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
  The day before you made accusations of- 
   me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
  undermine the tmo pundit project.
  
  Think you can stay on-topic today?
  
  If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
  First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
  arrival in America..
  
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=
  
  Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
  1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
  (orange) kurti/dhotis of the 
  *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
  Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
  Shankaracharya Tradition!!***
 
 So pandits/pundits must all be sanyasin? 

Namaste Sir LawsonJi..
i must politley remind to *Stay-On-Topic*..,as i refused to be 
dragged into another one of your Prozac-inspired tangents again!

We are discussing- Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh-ian pundits who 
claimed he was-, training young brahman boys to become Vedic 
Pundits in the tradition of his master Sri Swami BrahmandaJi (who 
was sanyasi and wore an orange dhoti)..., so to answer your 
question..YES in the strictest sense of his Master's lineage.

Because the Mahesh-ian tmo pundits are not wearing orange we can 
question their repsective caste..AS NOT BRAHMAN CASTE..Contrary to 
Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma Mahesh's spurious claims!

 It would be kinda hard to organize and daily 
 participate in mass yagyas 
 involving hundreds or thousands of fellow renunciates if you 
 were a medicant monk, I think...

Here is the website *YOU* personally provided..
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/

In these photos where did you see hundreds of thousands of 
Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits???

The website cleary indicates only slightly more than 100!!

Since you brought it up.., where are the 10,000 Mishmashi 
Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits???

i told you there was never any large groups of Mishmashi 
Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits numbering more than 200 anywhere 
in the world!!!

 Come to think of it, if all pundits must be sanyasin, 
 where do little pundits come from and 
 who teaches them, by the hundreds or thousands? 
 Certainly not their fellow renunciates 
 because that would be, well, wordly of them...

You really have trouble with reality.. Can you hold a job?
Do you even have gainful employment?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 We are discussing- Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh-ian pundits who 
 claimed he was-, training young brahman boys to become Vedic 
 Pundits in the tradition of his master Sri Swami BrahmandaJi (who 
 was sanyasi and wore an orange dhoti)..., so to answer your 
 question..YES in the strictest sense of his Master's lineage.


Where does this quote come from?

I've never heaqrd him say it or read anything like it.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
   Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
   You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
   Think you can stay on-topic today?
 You really have trouble with reality.. Can you hold a job?
 Do you even have gainful employment?

Hey coldblueasshole, what is with the on the one hand all the Namaste 
and -ji crap, and on the other, unbridled insults for basically 
everyone? fyi, it makes you look, as they say, a few cans short of a 
six pack. Just thought you ought to know...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman no_reply@ 
  wrote:
 coldbluiceman wrote:
 Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
 You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
 Think you can stay on-topic today?
   You really have trouble with reality.. Can you hold a job?
   Do you even have gainful employment?
  
  Hey coldblueasshole, what is with the on the one hand all the 
Namaste 
  and -ji crap, and on the other, unbridled insults for basically 
  everyone? fyi, it makes you look, as they say, a few cans short 
of a 
  six pack. Just thought you ought to know...
 
 
 I tried that, Jim a week or so ago. Didn't help.

Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not do 
any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. And 
besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker and 
just had to use it!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not do 
 any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. And 
 besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker and 
 just had to use it!

Namaste Sri Jimji,

With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up with 
Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to see 
how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he seems 
pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue credit.  He 
seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.

lurk






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not 
do 
  any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. 
And 
  besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker 
and 
  just had to use it!
 
 Namaste Sri Jimji,

and a Namaste to you!
 
 With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up 
with 
 Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to 
see 
 how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he 
seems 
 pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue 
credit.  He 
 seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.
 
 lurk
 

I agree-- but he (cold guy) always gets nasty and personal, and 
given the Indian tradition he espouses to follow, that's just way 
off.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not do 
  any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. 
And 
  besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker 
and 
  just had to use it!
 
 Namaste Sri Jimji,
 
 With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up 
with 
 Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to 
see 
 how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he 
seems 
 pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue credit.  
He 
 seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.

PST.  He may *seem* to, but he doesn't.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not do 
  any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. And 
  besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker and 
  just had to use it!
 
 Namaste Sri Jimji,
 
 With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up with 
 Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to see 
 how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he seems 
 pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue credit.  He 
 seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.


Er, and you've missed that he is often wrong? Encyclopedic implies being 
correct, not 
merely being willing to spew forth with words.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
  
  Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not 
 do 
   any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. 
 And 
   besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker 
 and 
   just had to use it!
  
  Namaste Sri Jimji,
 
 and a Namaste to you!
  
  With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up 
 with 
  Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to 
 see 
  how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he 
 seems 
  pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue 
 credit.  He 
  seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.
  
  lurk
  
 
 I agree-- but he (cold guy) always gets nasty and personal, and 
 given the Indian tradition he espouses to follow, that's just way 
 off.


If you did the google entry on mahayagya, you would find that google's very 
first 
reference (OK, today it is second entry) is non-TM and is a URL to a mahayagya 
being 
performed for universal peace.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=mahayagya

mahayagya.com
update themselves with your new site name. Once that happens, you will be able 
to access 
your site at its permanent address, mahayagya.com. ...
www.mahayagya.com/ - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

The Hindu : Tamil Nadu / Madurai News : Gayatri Aswamedha ...
MADURAI: The 30th Ashwamedha Gayatri Mahayagya of the All World Gayatri 
Pariwar, ... 
The Mahayagya was performed for universal peace and well-being. ...
www.hindu.com/2006/01/02/stories/2006010218710300.htm - 17k - Cached - Similar 
pages




Coldblueice can't be any more wrong about this issue. Why do you agree that he 
has ANY 
encyclopedic knowledge.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
  
  Hi, yeah I figured the guy is a little off kilter and it may not do 
   any good, but I just got pissed off with him picking on sparaig. 
 And 
   besides I was pretty pleased with the 'coldblueasshole' moniker 
 and 
   just had to use it!
  
  Namaste Sri Jimji,
  
  With all due politeness, this guy has been willing to mix it up 
 with 
  Sparaig. You've got to give him credit for that.  I was curious to 
 see 
  how long the dialog would last.  Nothing against spare, but he 
 seems 
  pretty impervious to changing his view. And give cold blue credit.  
 He 
  seems to have encyclopedic knowledge of things Indian.
 
 PST.  He may *seem* to, but he doesn't.


S... Coldblueice is popular because he stands up to me or something. It 
doesn't 
matter WHAT he says, only that he says it.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  Alex Stanley wrote:
spare egg wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote: 
   As no pundit worth his salt would 
   make a claim
   (or allow another to 
   make a claim) that would insinuate 
   a group of pundits 
   chanting Vedic verses could 
   change the course of human events.
   
  What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
  This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  

Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--
 Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.

The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the 
junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the 
Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological 
calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there 
are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River.

 ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at 
Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the 
placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there are 
also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar 
and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15 
million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient, 
managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this 
year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the 
Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml

Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??

 According to Steve Perino, 
 no pundit worth his salt would make the
 claim that would 
 insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
 Vedic verses could change the course of human 
 events

i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened 
him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
But having said that- if indeed that was a world peace gathering 
in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??

How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  jim flanegin wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
   snip So please tell me *Exactly* the 
   predicted outcome, right now 
   for the
   entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
   snip 
   Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!
  
  I think Turq [quoting Richard Bach] said it 
  best several hundred posts 
  ago, Argue for your limitations, and they are yours.
 
 Namaste Sir JimJi..,
 i must politley remind you of Michael Murphy's line in an old 
Doobie 
 Bros. song-, ..What a fool believes.

Lol! Good one!


 You are indeed free to believe anything you wish, and have blind 
 faith 
 in your beliefs. 
 Just as you personally believe(and have blind faith in your 
belief) 
 that-- Jim Flanegin is somehow tied into Lord Sri Shiva and Sri 
 Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Jyosimutt Swami BrahmanadJi via his 
 relationship with Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma..
 
 Which i understand to be just a blind faith belief system held by 
 Jim 
 Flanegin. 
 As, having met Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma on 3 
 occasions, and objectively reviewing his spurious claims dating 
back 
 to May 1953..,i never got the impression he-brahmachari Mahesh was 
 divienly inspired by any Personal Form of God.
 In fact as near as i can tell Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad 
 Varma's inspiration comes from Raam notes / $money$.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 jim flanegin wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
  snip So please tell me *Exactly* the 
  predicted outcome, right now 
  for the
  entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
  snip 
  Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!
 
 I think Turq [quoting Richard Bach] said it 
 best several hundred posts 
 ago, Argue for your limitations, and they are yours.

Namaste Sir JimJi..,
i must politley remind you of Michael Murphy's line in an old Doobie 
Bros. song-, ..What a fool believes.

You are indeed free to believe anything you wish, and have blind 
faith 
in your beliefs. 
Just as you personally believe(and have blind faith in your belief) 
that-- Jim Flanegin is somehow tied into Lord Sri Shiva and Sri 
Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Jyosimutt Swami BrahmanadJi via his 
relationship with Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma..

Which i understand to be just a blind faith belief system held by 
Jim 
Flanegin. 
As, having met Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma on 3 
occasions, and objectively reviewing his spurious claims dating back 
to May 1953..,i never got the impression he-brahmachari Mahesh was 
divienly inspired by any Personal Form of God.
In fact as near as i can tell Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad 
Varma's inspiration comes from Raam notes / $money$.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig wrote:
   Alex Stanley wrote:
 spare egg wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote: 
As no pundit worth his salt would 
make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate 
a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could 
change the course of human events.

   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
 
 Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
 i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.
 
 The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the 
 junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
 and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the 
 Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological 
 calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there 
 are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River.
 
  ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at 
 Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the 
 placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there are 
 also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar 
 and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
 that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15 
 million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient, 
 managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this 
 year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the 
 Haj, the second largest gathering... 
 http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
 
 Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
 
  According to Steve Perino, 
  no pundit worth his salt would make the
  claim that would 
  insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
  Vedic verses could change the course of human 
  events
 
 i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened 
 him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
 But having said that- if indeed that was a world peace gathering 
 in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
 It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
 millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
 
 How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?


I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, merely on your claim that 
they are 
not traditional.

I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
Alex Stanley wrote:
  spare egg wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote: 
 As no pundit worth his salt would 
 make a claim
 (or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate 
 a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could 
 change the course of human events.
 
What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
  
  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
  i must politley inform you that the photo you 
  are looking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
  Jamuna/Yamuna river.
  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
  every 12 years at the 
  junction of the three sacred rivers 
  (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
  and attended by more than 40 million people. 
  Now the dates of the 
  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
  using astrological 
  calculations based upon the placement of 
  planet Jupiter, also there 
  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
  on the Jamuna River.
  
   ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
  in rotation at 
  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
  according to the 
  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
  A modern innovation, there are 
  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
  every six years at Haridwar 
  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
  Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
  that the largest number of human beings in 
  history gathered--15 
  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
  logistically less convenient, 
  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
  Still, that's five times this 
  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
  to Mecca for the 
  Haj, the second largest gathering... 
  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
  
  Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
  
   According to Steve Perino, 
   no pundit worth his salt would make the
   claim that would 
   insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
   Vedic verses could change the course of human 
   events
  
  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
  his doctors have screened 
  him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
  But having said that- if indeed that 
  was a world peace gathering 
  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
  It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
  millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
  
  How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
 
 
 I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
 merely on your claim that they are 
 not traditional.

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??

Stop making this stuff up!!..i am stop posting to you if you don't 
get professional help.

 I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) with desired personal 
results for all aspects of family life with regards to *PERSONAL* 
spiritual upliftment:
1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
3. EQUALITY 
4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
http://urday.com/panch-2.html

 Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya

Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., now please 
get screened by your professional mental health care provider..for 
your family's sake.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg Lawson English wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote:
sparaig wrote:
 Alex Stanley wrote:
   spare egg wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote: 
  As no pundit worth his salt would 
  make a claim
  (or allow another to 
  make a claim) that would insinuate 
  a group of pundits 
  chanting Vedic verses could 
  change the course of human events.
  
 What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
 This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
   
   Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
   i must politley inform you that the photo you 
   are looking at is the--
   Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
   Jamuna/Yamuna river.
   The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
   every 12 years at the 
   junction of the three sacred rivers 
   (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
   and attended by more than 40 million people. 
   Now the dates of the 
   Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
   using astrological 
   calculations based upon the placement of 
   planet Jupiter, also there 
   are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
   on the Jamuna River.
   
...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
   in rotation at 
   Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
   according to the 
   placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
   A modern innovation, there are 
   also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
   every six years at Haridwar 
   and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
   Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
   that the largest number of human beings in 
   history gathered--15 
   million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
   logistically less convenient, 
   managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
   Still, that's five times this 
   year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
   to Mecca for the 
   Haj, the second largest gathering... 
   http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
   
   Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
   
According to Steve Perino, 
no pundit worth his salt would make the
claim that would 
insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
Vedic verses could change the course of human 
events
   
   i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
   his doctors have screened 
   him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
   But having said that- if indeed that 
   was a world peace gathering 
   in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
   It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
   millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
   
   How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
  
  
  I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
  merely on your claim that they are 
  not traditional.
 
 Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
 i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
 and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
 
 Stop making this stuff up!!..i am stop posting to you if you don't 
 get professional help.
 
  I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
 
 Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) with desired personal 
 results for all aspects of family life with regards to *PERSONAL* 
 spiritual upliftment:
 1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
 2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
 3. EQUALITY 
 4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
 5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
 http://urday.com/panch-2.html
 
  Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
 
 Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., now please 
 get screened by your professional mental health care provider..for 
 your family's sake.


Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically to individual daily rituals.

However, mahayajna also refers to the great rituals done by massive groups for 
many 
different purposes. Had you done a google search on mahayagya rather than 
pancha 
mahayagya you would have noted this immediately since there is only one hit 
for pancha 
mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us. Talk about a transparent attempt 
to skew 
the information to support your argument!

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Yajna/id/62894

yajna: (Sanskrit) Worship; sacrifice.

 
One of the most central Hindu concepts - sacrifice and surrender through acts 
of worship, 
inner and outer.

 

1) A form of ritual worship especially prevalent in Vedic times, in which 
oblations - ghee, 
grains, spices and exotic woods - are offered into a fire according to 
scriptural injunctions 
while special mantras are chanted.

- The element fire, Agni, is revered as the divine messenger who carries 
offerings and 
prayers to the Gods.

- The ancient Veda Brahmanas and the Shrauta Shastras describe various types of 
yajna 
rites, some so elaborate as to require hundreds of priests, whose powerful 
chanting 
resounds 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   spare egg Lawson English wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote:
 sparaig wrote:
  Alex Stanley wrote:
spare egg wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote: 
   As no pundit worth his salt would 
   make a claim
   (or allow another to 
   make a claim) that would insinuate 
   a group of pundits 
   chanting Vedic verses could 
   change the course of human events.
   
  What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
  This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  

Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
i must politley inform you that the photo you 
are looking at is the--
Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
Jamuna/Yamuna river.
The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
every 12 years at the 
junction of the three sacred rivers 
(Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
and attended by more than 40 million people. 
Now the dates of the 
Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
using astrological 
calculations based upon the placement of 
planet Jupiter, also there 
are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
on the Jamuna River.

 ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
in rotation at 
Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
according to the 
placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
A modern innovation, there are 
also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
every six years at Haridwar 
and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
that the largest number of human beings in 
history gathered--15 
million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
logistically less convenient, 
managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
Still, that's five times this 
year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
to Mecca for the 
Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml

Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
believe that photo is??

 According to Steve Perino, 
 no pundit worth his salt would make the
 claim that would 
 insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
 Vedic verses could change the course of human 
 events

i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
his doctors have screened 
him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
But having said that- if indeed that 
was a world peace gathering 
in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
It sadly did not have the 
desired effect as how many estimated 
millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??

How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
   
   
   I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
   merely on your claim that they are 
   not traditional.
  
  Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
  i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
  and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
  
  Stop making this stuff up!!..
  i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
  get professional help.
  
   I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
  
  Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
  with desired personal 
  results for all aspects of family life 
  with regards to *PERSONAL* 
  spiritual upliftment:
  1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
  2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
  3. EQUALITY 
  4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
  5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
  http://urday.com/panch-2.html
  
   Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
  
  Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
  now please 
  get screened by your professional 
  mental health care provider..for 
  your family's sake.
 
 
 Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
 mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
 to individual daily rituals.

Naamste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politley remind you the term- pancha refers to count of 5 
items or things.
For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.

i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

 However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
 rituals done by massive groups for many 
 different purposes. Had you done a google search 
 on mahayagya rather than pancha 
 mahayagya you would have noted this 
 immediately since there is only one hit for pancha 
 mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us.
 Talk about a transparent attempt to skew 
 the information to support your argument!

i did not skew anything Sir Lawsonji.

That being said..,lets go through your list to determine:
1). if any of this great info you posted has anything at all to do 
with the tmo pundits..and more importantly John Hagelin's 
*Anticipated Results* of the tmo pundit project in America..and 

2). if any of this info has to do 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg Lawson English wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
spare egg Lawson English wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote:
  sparaig wrote:
   Alex Stanley wrote:
 spare egg wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote: 
As no pundit worth his salt would 
make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate 
a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could 
change the course of human events.

   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
 
 Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
 i must politley inform you that the photo you 
 are looking at is the--
 Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
 Jamuna/Yamuna river.
 The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
 every 12 years at the 
 junction of the three sacred rivers 
 (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
 and attended by more than 40 million people. 
 Now the dates of the 
 Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
 using astrological 
 calculations based upon the placement of 
 planet Jupiter, also there 
 are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
 on the Jamuna River.
 
  ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
 in rotation at 
 Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
 according to the 
 placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
 A modern innovation, there are 
 also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
 every six years at Haridwar 
 and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
 Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
 that the largest number of human beings in 
 history gathered--15 
 million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
 logistically less convenient, 
 managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
 Still, that's five times this 
 year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
 to Mecca for the 
 Haj, the second largest gathering... 
 http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
 
 Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
 believe that photo is??
 
  According to Steve Perino, 
  no pundit worth his salt would make the
  claim that would 
  insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
  Vedic verses could change the course of human 
  events
 
 i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
 his doctors have screened 
 him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
 But having said that- if indeed that 
 was a world peace gathering 
 in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
 It sadly did not have the 
 desired effect as how many estimated 
 millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
 
 How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?


I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
merely on your claim that they are 
not traditional.
   
   Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
   i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
   and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
   
   Stop making this stuff up!!..
   i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
   get professional help.
   
I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
   
   Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
   with desired personal 
   results for all aspects of family life 
   with regards to *PERSONAL* 
   spiritual upliftment:
   1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
   2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
   3. EQUALITY 
   4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
   5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
   http://urday.com/panch-2.html
   
Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
   
   Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
   now please 
   get screened by your professional 
   mental health care provider..for 
   your family's sake.
  
  
  Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
  mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
  to individual daily rituals.
 
 Naamste Sir Lawson Ji..,
 i must politley remind you the term- pancha refers to count of 5 
 items or things.
 For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
 Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.
 

Yes, and the term pancha mahayajnas or pancha mahayagyas refers 
specifically to 
rituals performed by individuals.


 i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

Who told you that?

 
  However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
  rituals done by massive groups for many 
  different purposes. Had you done a google search 
  on mahayagya rather than pancha 
  mahayagya you would have noted this 
  immediately since there is only one hit for pancha 
  mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us.
  Talk about a transparent attempt to skew 
  the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


I once had a business partner who always knew the most negative outcome for any thing we tried to do. He thought his skepticim made him intelligent. One day I asked him do you believe in this idea that thought is creative? He said no because that made him as the term has been used an idiot. I just looked at him. I asked what do you gain in being right with any of these thoughts? Answer: Nothing. SO do you think knowing this answer that does nothing for you makes you intelligent? I explained I would prefer to be absolutely wrong if that was my thought. 

We are trained that sketicism is a sign of some of intelligence. SO if I have a negative thought about something and it comes out to be true that makes me intelligent. WRONG!

Sometimes it is best not to know and not to be right. I pray that this experiment with Vedic Pundits is an absolute success. Then I pray that more countries do the same. If this could happen all over the world WOW! Maybe we will stop the killing in Iraq and other parts of the world. Maybe Israel will realize that killing Palestinians is quite the same as was done to them in the past. Maybe the united states will stop creating wars around the world. Just maybe we can have a state of peace. I hope so.
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59:58 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  sparaig wrote:   Alex Stanley wrote: spare egg wrote:cold blu ice man wrote: As no "pundit" worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits chanting "Vedic verses" could change the course of human events.   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji.., i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the  junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati)  and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological  calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River. ..."The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there
 are  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga,  that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient,  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the  Haj, the second largest gathering..."  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml  Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??   According to Steve Perino,   no pundit worth his salt would make the  claim that would   insinutate a group of pundits chanting   Vedic verses could change the course of human
   events  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened  him for paranoia  delusional behavior. But having said that- if indeed that was a "world peace" gathering  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was).. It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated  millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??  How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, merely on your claim that they are not traditional.I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?Hint to lurkers: google "mahayagya"To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
 
 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
 certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
 forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
 their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
 Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.

As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.

Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.

One thing that might help is to rent a copy of
Tibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's 
film The Cup. The actors in his film are
all monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. They
give one a more real view of the *humanness*
that exists in real monks, and of the things
they really think about on a daily basis.

This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It's
really a *wonderful* film, up there with the 
work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing the
mindset of the East. The basic plot revolves
around some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhist
monastery who are scheming to find some way to
rent a TV and a satellite dish so that they can
watch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, 
a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's first
film. 

Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's 
a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famous
teacher from the past. I met him briefly in Santa
Fe when he was there on a fundraising tour, and
have rarely been so impressed. The room was full
of rich potential donors, all clammoring for his
attention, to get him to focus on them and give
them some strokes in return for the money they
were going to contribute to the film. His *equan-
imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.
He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,
whether they were one of the richest people in
the world (one of whom was there), or a young kid
working his third job serving tea. Neat to see.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
wrote:
  
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
  
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
  certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
  forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
  their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
  Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
 
 As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
 entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
 Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
 where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
 sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
 
 Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
 keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.

Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread llundrub
It's clear that pundits provides a higher purpose for people's lives. 
Service. Way of Trotika and all that.  May it be true!

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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
 wrote:
  
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
 
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost
  certain that a few people who have contributed to this
  forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to
  their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami
  Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.

 As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer
 entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A
 Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
 where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
 sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.

 Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
 keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.

 Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
 and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
  
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
  
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
  certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
  forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
  their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
  Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
 
 As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
 entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
 Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
 where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
 sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
 
 Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
 keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
 
 One thing that might help is to rent a copy of
 Tibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's 
 film The Cup. The actors in his film are
 all monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. They
 give one a more real view of the *humanness*
 that exists in real monks, and of the things
 they really think about on a daily basis.
 
 This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It's
 really a *wonderful* film, up there with the 
 work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing the
 mindset of the East. The basic plot revolves
 around some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhist
 monastery who are scheming to find some way to
 rent a TV and a satellite dish so that they can
 watch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, 
 a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's first
 film. 
 
 Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's 
 a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famous
 teacher from the past. I met him briefly in Santa
 Fe when he was there on a fundraising tour, and
 have rarely been so impressed. The room was full
 of rich potential donors, all clammoring for his
 attention, to get him to focus on them and give
 them some strokes in return for the money they
 were going to contribute to the film. His *equan-
 imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.
 He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,
 whether they were one of the richest people in
 the world (one of whom was there), or a young kid
 working his third job serving tea. Neat to see.


But why? Equanimity is a description of the innermost reaction to someone, NOT 
some 
outward behavior. To behave exactly the same way towards everyone sounds 
contrived, 
not spiritual.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
 wrote:
   
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
   
   Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
   certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
   forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
   their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
   Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
  
  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
  entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
  Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
  where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
  sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
  
  Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
  keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
 
 Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
 and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.


Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. 
to saying that 
Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes 
that 
MMY killed his guru.

Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working 
deligently to 
sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
  Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted 
Pundit?

Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 

 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
 but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
 have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
 would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
 to make it so and come to think of it, 

Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??

So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much 
the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this 
somehow indicate that it is my fault?

And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?

How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?

The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook 
up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.

As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.

Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops 
in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this 
whole pundit thing is working.

 Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the 
 same way.

And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally 
recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct 
disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??

As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed 
influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the 
world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?

But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US 
Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
  wrote:

 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
   
   As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
   entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
   Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
   where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
   sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
   
   Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
   keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
  
  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
  and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
 
 Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years 
 of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits 
 simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda 
 believes that MMY killed his guru.
 
 Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that 
 they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, 
 if at all possible.

This is the point where someone is supposed to 
come running in to agree with the indisputable 
logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point 
that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid 
thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in 
suggesting that he was.

There is a fine line between feeling personally
threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours
and believing that those who hold those opinions
are actually capable of plotting against you or 
the organization you identify with overmuch. It 
would seem that at least one person here has 
crossed that line. Time will tell whether there
are two of them.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock 
jedi_spock@ 
  wrote:

 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
   
   As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
   entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
   Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
   where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
   sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
   
   Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
   keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
  
  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
  and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
 
 
 Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of 
posting on a.m.t. to saying that 
 Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami 
Swaroopananda believes that 
 MMY killed his guru.
 
 Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they 
are working deligently to 
 sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible.

May the best man win.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
   wrote:
 
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
 
 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
 certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
 forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
 their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
 Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.

As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.

Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
   
   Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
   and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
  
  Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years 
  of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits 
  simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda 
  believes that MMY killed his guru.
  
  Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that 
  they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, 
  if at all possible.
 
 This is the point where someone is supposed to 
 come running in to agree with the indisputable 
 logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point 
 that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid 
 thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in 
 suggesting that he was.
 

I haven't crossed any line.

 There is a fine line between feeling personally
 threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours
 and believing that those who hold those opinions
 are actually capable of plotting against you or 
 the organization you identify with overmuch. It 
 would seem that at least one person here has 
 crossed that line. Time will tell whether there
 are two of them.


Which opinions am I threatened by?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock 
jedi_spock@ 
  wrote:

 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
   
   As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
   entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
   Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
   where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
   sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
   
   Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
   keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
  
  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
  and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
 
 Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of
 posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't 
 exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that 
 MMY killed his guru.
 
 Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that
 they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if
 at all possible.

Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in
the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he
needed to.  He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud,
so why would he bother?  Better to stand aside and
just let the whole thing flop.

The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish
anything to sabotage the pundit project, other
than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd
posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote:
  judy stein wrote:
   TurquoiseB wrote:
spare egg wrote:
 Jason Spock wrote:
 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt
 the Vedic Pundits.??

Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of,
but I'm almost 
certain that a few people who have contributed 
to this 
forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel 
obligated to try to 
their utmost to make it so and come to 
think of it, Swami 
Swaroopananda and friends probably 
feel the same way.
   
   As I heard it, Coldbluiceman 
   (in the best TMer 
   entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a
   Seduce A Pundit stand within sight 
   of the frat windows,
   where nubile young Iowa babes are 
   encouraged to
   sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
   
   Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should 
   learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia 
   to yourselves.
  
  Uh, Barry, I think Jason 
  was expressing skepticism,
  and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
 
 
 Actually, I wasn't joking. 

Namaste Sir LawsonJi
In my very humble opinion i must politely inquire- 
or are you off your meds??

Besides being clinically diagnosed as suffering from OCD, did the 
doctors evaluate you for- paranoia  delusional behavior?

 ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that 
 Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. 

Firstly Sir Lawson Ji-- these 114 gentlemen from India that came to 
Fairfield dressed in white kurta/dhoti pajamas are *legimate* 
pundits because Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma told you so!!

Now, Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma has also claimed that-,
these pundits can (simply by chanting Vedic verses)influence the 
course of human events from anywhere to anywhere.

Why come here to America?

As Barry has just pointed out. And, you convienently ignored.

Now this is the same Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma that 
paraded Swami Shantinand (when he was alive) around in view of  
sincere gullible westerners, claiming that Shantinand was somehow a 
legitmate Shankracharya that endorsed tm.

 And Swami Swaroopananda believes that 
 MMY killed his guru.

And, as the *ONLY* legimate lawful Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt.., 
Sri SwaroopanandJi has pointed out that--
Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma has a history of using 
alledged shankaracharyas to dupe gullible westerners.

Now Sir LawsonJi.., i say you are being duped once again.
 
 Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to
 learn that they are working deligently to 
 sabotage MMY's projects, 

As i have better things to do with my time.., i would just like to 
point out at 'google news' at this moment now in the business 
section --
Washington Post 
Goodyear to close Texas plant
Crain's Cleveland Business - 36 minutes ago
Goodyear Tire  Rubber Co. will close its tire manufacturing plant 
in Tyler, Texas, as part of an announced plan to exit certain 
segments of its private label tire business.
Goodyear to Close Texas Plant, Cut Jobs CBS News
Goodyear to Close Texas Plant, Cut Jobs Washington Post
Toronto Star
all 148 news articles »


Washington Post 
Dow, Nasdaq Slide in Midmorning Trading
Houston Chronicle - 45 minutes ago
By TIM PARADIS AP Business Writer. © 2006 AP. NEW YORK - Stocks fell 
Monday as investors tried to assess the health of the economy 
following a lackluster sales report from Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
 
 if at all possible.

Sir LawsonJi.., how is the weather on your planet??




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread TurquoiseB
   Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years 
   of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits 
   simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda 
   believes that MMY killed his guru.
   
   Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that 
   they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, 
   if at all possible.
  
  This is the point where someone is supposed to 
  come running in to agree with the indisputable 
  logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point 
  that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid 
  thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in 
  suggesting that he was.
 
 I haven't crossed any line.

Reread your second paragraph above. Do you not feel
that you not being surprised to learn that they are
working diligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at
all possible is a little over the line I specified
below?
 
  There is a fine line between feeling personally
  threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours
  and believing that those who hold those opinions
  are actually capable of plotting against you or 
  the organization you identify with overmuch. It 
  would seem that at least one person here has 
  crossed that line. Time will tell whether there
  are two of them.

You wouldn't be surprised to find them plotting
against MMY, did I get that right? 

Doesn't that kinda equate to you believing them 
*capable* of plotting against him?

I don't believe them capable of such a thing. 
I would imagine that Swaroopanand has better
things to do with his time, and although it
doesn't seem that Coldbluiceman does :-), I've
never gotten the feeling that he'd go out of
his way to sabotage any of Maharishi's 
projects. 

Who, after all, would need to? The majority 
of them are self-sabotaging.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 judy stein wrote:
  sparaig wrote:
   judy stein wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
 sparaig wrote:
  Jason Spock wrote:
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits?

 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
 but I'm almost 
 certain that a few people who have contributed
 to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
 would feel obligated to try to 
 their utmost to make it so and 
 come to think of it, Swami 
 Swaroopananda and friends
 probably feel the same way.

As I heard it, Coldbluiceman 
(in the best TMer 
entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a 
Seduce A Pundit stand within sight
of the frat windows,
where nubile young Iowa babes are 
encouraged to
sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.

Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason 
should learn to
keep your unreasoning paranoia 
to yourselves.
   
   Uh, Barry, I think Jason was 
   expressing skepticism,
   and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.

Namaste Ms. Judy..,
i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking!
As he admits himself.

So much for your process of thinking.
 
 Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in
 the way, 

And, in line with your questionable thought processes.., please tell 
us one way inwhich Sri SwaroopanandJi-, *might* be in a position to 
get in the way..
You sound almost as paranoid as poor Lawson.

 but I'm not sure why he'd think he
 needed to.  
 He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud,

Along with nearly everyone on this earth.

 so why would he bother?  

 Better to stand aside and
 just let the whole thing flop.

Now that is truly a very negative attitude.
 
 The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish
 anything to sabotage the pundit project, other
 than thinking evil thoughts 

Who is thinking evil thoughts?..you just pointed out above this 
whole pundit thing is doomed to failure.

 and making absurd
 posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face.

Not nearly as absurb as your assessment of Lawson's jokes.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  judy stein wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
judy stein wrote:
 TurquoiseB wrote:
  sparaig wrote:
   Jason Spock wrote:
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits?
 
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
  but I'm almost 
  certain that a few people who have contributed
  to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
  would feel obligated to try to 
  their utmost to make it so and 
  come to think of it, Swami 
  Swaroopananda and friends
  probably feel the same way.
 
 As I heard it, Coldbluiceman 
 (in the best TMer 
 entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a 
 Seduce A Pundit stand within sight
 of the frat windows,
 where nubile young Iowa babes are 
 encouraged to
 sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
 
 Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason 
 should learn to
 keep your unreasoning paranoia 
 to yourselves.

Uh, Barry, I think Jason was 
expressing skepticism,
and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
 
 Namaste Ms. Judy..,
 i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking!
 As he admits himself.

Yes, you see, in the post you're responding to,
I was replying to Lawson's post saying he was
not joking.  So you aren't pointing out 
anything to me, politely or otherwise, I'm afraid.

This sort of brainlessness on your part is why
I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to
suggest you were capable of participating in a
conspiracy to corrupt the pundits.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 judy stein wrote:
  coldbluiceman  wrote:
   judy stein wrote:
sparaig wrote:
 judy stein wrote:
  TurquoiseB wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
Jason Spock wrote:
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt 
the Vedic Pundits?
  
   Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
   but I'm almost 
   certain that a few people who have contributed
   to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
   would feel obligated to try to 
   their utmost to make it so and 
   come to think of it, Swami 
   Swaroopananda and friends
   probably feel the same way.
  
  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman 
  (in the best TMer 
  entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a 
  Seduce A Pundit stand within sight
  of the frat windows,
  where nubile young Iowa babes are 
  encouraged to
  sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
  
  Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason 
  should learn to
  keep your unreasoning paranoia 
  to yourselves.
 
 Uh, Barry, I think Jason was 
 expressing skepticism,
 and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
  
  Namaste Ms. Judy..,
  i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking!
  As he admits himself.
 
 Yes, you see, in the post you're responding to,
 I was replying to Lawson's post saying he was
 not joking. 

Namaste Ms. Judy,
i must politley take exception your statement.
Now you claim Lawson was not joking!
When in your previous post you said-, 
Lawson was making, you know, a joke.


  So you aren't pointing out 
 anything to me, politely or otherwise, I'm afraid.

Nothing other than you can't seem to function coherently.
i really sincerely feel compassion for your poor afflicted emotional 
mind.

 
 This sort of brainlessness on your part is why
 I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to
 suggest you were capable of participating in a
 conspiracy to corrupt the pundits.

Ms. Judy.., most politley you are just plain Looney Tunes!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct.  I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteUh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a
 masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct.  I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteUh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a
 masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct.  I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a
 masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct.  I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a
 masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
   Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
 
 How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted 
 Pundit?
 
 Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
 Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
 Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
 Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
 Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 
 
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
  but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
  have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
  would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
  to make it so and come to think of it, 
 
 Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??

Why make so much noise about their non-existance over the years if you didn't 
care?

 
 So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much 
 the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this 
 somehow indicate that it is my fault?
 

Er, no. And I'm under the impression that the pundits' stay is indefinite. 
Certainly a year or 
more (since that is the amount of time that Settle pledged to pay for yogic 
flyers and 
money has already been pledged specifically for pundits to stay indefinitely 
and the TMO 
is collecting those pledges right now).

 And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
 handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
 

Hardly.

 How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
 

Not a clue. That is up to you.

 The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook 
 up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
 

Does anyone reading this doubt that you fervently HOPE that this is the case, 
regardless of 
any action you choose to take in the future?


 As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
 

Really? What purpose are these group chants for, according to Indian tradition?



 Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops 
 in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this 
 whole pundit thing is working.
 

Heh. They arrived yesterday. And in fact, the claim for the course pre-pundits, 
is that the 
yogic flyers' numbers are sufficient to affect the US of A internally, NOT 
events on the 
other side of the world, save as those events reflect decisions made here in 
the USA. I 
don't think that this claim has changed radically with the arrival of the 
pundits, regardless 
of what chants they do.


  Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the 
  same way.
 
 And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally 
 recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct 
 disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??
 

Not I said probably.

 As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed 
 influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the 
 world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?

Because of the synergistic effect. LIght travels indefinitely, but the only 
practical way to 
create a reinforcing constructive interfence effect is at its source.

 
 But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US 
 Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.


Certainly,  I hope that the pundits have an effect on the US elections and that 
the effect is 
positive. Given my political beliefs, I would say that the Dems taking back 
both houses, at 
least for the next few election cycles, would be a positive thing. I am not 
sure that their 
regaining control of the White House as well as both Houses of Congress would 
be a 
positive thing in the long run, but given the situation with the Supreme 
Court's new 
makeup, who can say for sure?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock 
 jedi_spock@ 
   wrote:
 
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
 
 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost 
 certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
 forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
 their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami 
 Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.

As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.

Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.
   
   Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
   and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
  
  Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of
  posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't 
  exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that 
  MMY killed his guru.
  
  Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that
  they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if
  at all possible.
 
 Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in
 the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he
 needed to.  He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud,
 so why would he bother?  Better to stand aside and
 just let the whole thing flop.
 
 The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish
 anything to sabotage the pundit project, other
 than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd
 posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face.



I never said that they would be effective. In Swaroopanand's case, he certainly 
could have 
(and almost certainly would have, had he been made aware) worked behind the 
scenes to 
sabatoge any attempts to bring the pundits here in the first place. In 
ColdBlueIce's case, 
like as not, he's on a Mission from God to help the pundits see the error of 
their ways--
afterall, he says that they have been corrupted from the moment they had 
contact with 
MMY and the TMO, so he would be doing them a tremendous favor by rescuing them 
from 
association with a hell-bound teacher (his terms). Think of the good karma 
that would 
result, in his eyes...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years 
of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits 
simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda 
believes that MMY killed his guru.

Given those facts  it wouldn't be surprising to learn that 
they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, 
if at all possible.
   
   This is the point where someone is supposed to 
   come running in to agree with the indisputable 
   logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point 
   that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid 
   thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in 
   suggesting that he was.
  
  I haven't crossed any line.
 
 Reread your second paragraph above. Do you not feel
 that you not being surprised to learn that they are
 working diligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at
 all possible is a little over the line I specified
 below?

Nope. Swami Swaroopandana believes that MMY murdered his guru. Any action he 
can 
take to sabatoge such a person would be justified, even mandatory.

ColdBLueIce believes that MMY is hell-bound, IIRC, and that the pundits are 
already 
corrupt by their association with MMY. Any action he could take would be to 
counter this 
corruption.

  
   There is a fine line between feeling personally
   threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours
   and believing that those who hold those opinions
   are actually capable of plotting against you or 
   the organization you identify with overmuch. It 
   would seem that at least one person here has 
   crossed that line. Time will tell whether there
   are two of them.
 
 You wouldn't be surprised to find them plotting
 against MMY, did I get that right? 
 

Plotting? One need not plot to take action. If anyone in the Indian 
government asked the 
official Shankaracharya of the North what he thought of MMY and his 
activities with his 
pundits, how would he respond, do you think? Certainly, if any religious figure 
in India was 
to be consulted on the issue, it would be the legally-recognized Shankaracharya 
of the 
North, don't you agree?

 Doesn't that kinda equate to you believing them 
 *capable* of plotting against him?
 

In Swami Swarropananda's case, he might well have had influence on the 
decision-making. 
If any religious figure in India was in a position to have such influence, it 
would be him.

In ColdBlueIce's case, he's made it clear that he wants MMY to fail in every 
way possible. 
What opportunity he could have to facilitate this failure, I don't know, but he 
has made it 
clear that he believes that he has had the effect of disuading many people from 
learning 
TM over the years due to his posting on the internet and that he is quite happy 
with this 
outcome.

 I don't believe them capable of such a thing. 
 I would imagine that Swaroopanand has better
 things to do with his time,

If Swami Swaroopananda were asked, in his capacity as Shankaracharya, what he 
thought 
of MMY's pundit project, what would be his response, do you think?

 and although it
 doesn't seem that Coldbluiceman does :-), I've
 never gotten the feeling that he'd go out of
 his way to sabotage any of Maharishi's 
 projects. 

If I recall correctly, he credits himself with dissuading many people from 
learning TM due 
to his posting on the internet. I have no idea how effective he has been, but 
he appears to 
believe that he has been. Certainly, he appears to believe it a worthy cause.

 
 Who, after all, would need to? The majority 
 of them are self-sabotaging.


There is that, of course.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 
 This sort of brainlessness on your part is why
 I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to
 suggest you were capable of participating in a
 conspiracy to corrupt the pundits.


Never meant to imply a conspiracy. If Swami Swaroopananda were consulted, he 
would likely 
respond that the MMY is a murderer and nothing he does should be supported.

ColdBlueICe brags (IIRC) about dissuading people from learning TM due to his 
internet 
posting. If he could concieve of a way to have some negative effect on the 
pundit project in 
Fairfield that would require no more expenditure of energy than writing 
internet posts and e-
mails, do you think he wouldn't do so?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No Paranoia, Sir Torque.  I always looked up to you as an 
 inspiration.

Remember that scene in Predator when Ahnold 
takes a punch at the predator creature and then
realizes that this is not exactly the smartest
thing he's ever done? The exact quote is, Bad
idea.

Looking up to me? Bad idea.

:-)






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread llundrub
I don't care about any of this objective shit. I'm curious about subjective 
meditation or spiritual experiences of depth or tranquility. Especially of 
FF locals.

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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette


 sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
  Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

 How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted
 Pundit?

 Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis?
 Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
 Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length)
 Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length)
 Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee)

 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of,
 but I'm almost certain that a few people who
 have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce)
 would feel obligated to try to their utmost
 to make it so and come to think of it,

 Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??

 So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much
 the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this
 somehow indicate that it is my fault?

 And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
 handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?

 How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?

 The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook
 up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.

 As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to
 make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits
 chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.

 Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops
 in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this
 whole pundit thing is working.

 Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the
 same way.

 And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally
 recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct
 disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??

 As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed
 influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the
 world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?

 But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US
 Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig spare egg /Lawson English wrote:
  judy stein wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
judy stein wrote:
 TurquoiseB wrote:
  sparaig wrote:
   Jason Spock wrote:
   Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt
   the Vedic Pundits.??
  Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
  but I'm almost 
  certain that a few people who have contributed to this 
  forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to 
  their utmost to make it so
  and come to think of it, Swami 
  Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way.
 
 As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer 
 entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A 
 Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows,
 where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to
 sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
 
 Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to
 keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.

Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,
and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
   
   Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of
   posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi 
   Pundits simply don't 
   exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that 
   MMY killed his guru.
   
   Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that
   they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if
   at all possible.
  
  Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in
  the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he
  needed to.  He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud,
  so why would he bother?  Better to stand aside and
  just let the whole thing flop.
  
  The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish
  anything to sabotage the pundit project, other
  than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd
  posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face.


 I never said that they would be effective.
 In Swaroopanand's case, he certainly could have 
 (and almost certainly would have, had he been made aware) 
 worked behind the scenes to 
 sabatoge any attempts to bring the pundits
 here in the first place. 

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must respectfully standby my original thoughts on this matter and 
your current state of mental un-wellness.
And, politley pose my question again to you..,aside from being 
clinically diagnosed as having an OCD did your doctor also conduct 
screening for paranoia  deslusional behavior?

 In ColdBlueIce's case, 
 like as not, he's on a Mission from God 
 to help the pundits see the error of their ways--
 afterall, he says that they have been corrupted from the moment 
 they had contact with 
 MMY and the TMO, 

Sir Lawson Jji.., my statement regarding the pundits as-, they have 
been corrupted from the moment they had contact with Mishmashi 
Brahmachari Varma and the tmo was speculative in nature.
 As, i played along with the assumption you and Judy have have made 
that these kurta/dhoti pajama-clad gentlemen from India are indeed 
any sort of Vedic pundits.

i maintain these vedic pundits are vedic pundits because 
Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma told you so!

And, in fact are indian tmo recuits from off the streets of any 
major Indian city.

 so he would be doing them a tremendous favor by 
 rescuing them from 
 association with a hell-bound teacher (his terms). 

You are really are a verified *Nut Case* aren't you..Lawson?

 Think of the good karma that would 
 result, in his eyes...


Induldge me for a moment in your warped delusional fantasy Lawson 
and elucidate..





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   The Corrupted Pundit would be in a bikini or Rug Dhoti. He wouldChant Kamasutra Mantrasand surf Porn on the Net in his spare time. He would Charge 100,000- Dollars for a Yagya to get rid or your bad karma.ColdBluiceMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:37:26 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteHow would you know a "corrupted Pundit" from an "un-corrupted Pundit"?Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) Tevata Dhoti (Mid
 Calf Length) Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.' 06 does this somehow indicate that it is my fault?And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-handedly "corrupted" pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?How would i-, "try to their utmost to make it so"?The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.As no "pundit" worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits chanting "Vedic verses" could change the course of human events.Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this whole "pundit" thing is working.And, you are somehow qualifed
 to speak for the *ONLY* legally recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi? ?As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US Senate i guess you will claim it was the "pundits". 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  judy stein wrote:
   coldbluiceman  wrote:
judy stein wrote:
 sparaig wrote:
  judy stein wrote:
   TurquoiseB wrote:
sparaig wrote:
 Jason Spock wrote:
 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt 
 the Vedic Pundits?
   
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
but I'm almost 
certain that a few people who have contributed
to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
would feel obligated to try to 
their utmost to make it so and 
come to think of it, Swami 
Swaroopananda and friends
probably feel the same way.
   
   As I heard it, Coldbluiceman 
   (in the best TMer 
   entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a 
   Seduce A Pundit stand within sight
   of the frat windows,
   where nubile young Iowa babes are 
   encouraged to
   sunbathe nude and fondle themselves.
   
   Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason 
   should learn to
   keep your unreasoning paranoia 
   to yourselves.
  
  Uh, Barry, I think Jason was 
  expressing skepticism,
  and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.
   
   Namaste Ms. Judy..,
   i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking!
   As he admits himself.
  
  Yes, you see, in the post you're responding to,
  I was replying to Lawson's post saying he was
  not joking. 
 
 Namaste Ms. Judy,
 i must politley take exception your statement.
 Now you claim Lawson was not joking!

No, no, *Lawson* said he wasn't joking.

 When in your previous post you said-, 
 Lawson was making, you know, a joke.

Right.  He then corrected me.  So there was
nothing for you to point out, since Lawson
had already informed me that he hadn't been
joking.  You were commenting on *my reply*
to the post in which he informed me he hadn't
been joking.

   So you aren't pointing out 
  anything to me, politely or otherwise, I'm afraid.
 
 Nothing other than you can't seem to function coherently.

ROTFL!!!  Believe me, I can understand why you
would think that.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
  No Paranoia, Sir Torque.  I always looked up to you as an 
  inspiration.
 
 Remember that scene in Predator when Ahnold 
 takes a punch at the predator creature and then
 realizes that this is not exactly the smartest
 thing he's ever done? The exact quote is, Bad
 idea.
 
 Looking up to me? Bad idea.
 
 :-)


Actually, swinging at him probably saved Arnold's life in the movie. The 
predator was willing 
to go hand-to-hand after that which mean he wasn't using UFO-level gadgetry.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Jason Spock



   Whats so bad about Saint Torque.?? 'Every Saint has a past and every Sinner has a future.'TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:59:22 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette  Remember that scene in "Predator" when Ahnold takes a punch at the predator creature and thenrealizes that this is not exactly the smartestthing he's ever done? The exact quote is, "Badidea."Looking up to me? Bad
 idea. :-)--- Jason Spock jedi_spock@ ... wrote: No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an  inspiration.   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
  
  How would you know a corrupted Pundit 
  from an un-corrupted 
  Pundit?
  
  Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
  Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
  Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
  Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
  Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 
  
   Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
   but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
   have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
   would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
   to make it so and come to think of it, 
  
  Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
 
 Why make so much noise about their 
 non-existance over the years if you didn't care?

i don't care. Simply because a few months ago the indian tmo 
rounded up a few (114!..not 10,000!) and taught them all a very 
simple and commonly available Arti(puja).., dressed them up and sent 
them to Fairfield means nothing to me.
However, it certainly impresses the heck out of you.

But then Anoop Chandola onced convinced you Shantinanda was Guru 
Dev's handpicked sucessor!

  So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield,
   and America is much 
  the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06
  does this 
  somehow indicate that it is my fault?

 Er, no. And I'm under the impression that the pundits'
 stay is indefinite. Certainly a year or 
 more (since that is the amount of time that 
 Settle pledged to pay for yogic flyers and 
 money has already been pledged specifically 
 for pundits to stay indefinitely and the TMO 
 is collecting those pledges right now).

Simply doesn't matter how long these alledged pundits stay here 
nothing will change.
 
  And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
  handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
  
 
 Hardly.

So we are agreed- no one will {ph}ly.
 
  How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?

 Not a clue. That is up to you.

Surely Lawson you are off your meds.., you must have a clue.
 
  The pundits were probably corrupt 
  the momment they decided to hook 
  up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
  
 
 Does anyone reading this doubt that you fervently 
 HOPE that this is the case, regardless of 
 any action you choose to take in the future?

i don't have to hope Sir Lawson..it is a fact..,that these 114 
kurta/dhoti pajama pundits will not any affect on my life!..period.
That delusional belief is best left to you.

  As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
  (or allow another to 
  make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
  chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.

 Really? 
 What purpose are these group chants for, 
 according to Indian tradition?

GO to your local Hindu temple and find out for yourself...
Hindu Society of Arizona
4725 West Palo Verde Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85302

Swaminarayan Temple of Phoenix
7918 East 1st Avenue, Mesa, AZ 85208
Phone: 480-357-9922
Website: www.swaminarayan.org/globalnetwork/america/PHOENIX.htm

International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON)
100 S. Weber Drive, Phoenix, AZ 85226
Phone: 480-705-4900
Website: www.iskconaz.org

International Society of Divine Love
315 E Eugie Ave., Phoenix, AZ 85022-4727

Self-Realization Fellowship Temple and Ashram Center
6111 North Central Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85012-1232
Phone: 602-279-6140

Hindu Temple of Arizona
3019 N Hayden Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251
Phone: 480-874-3200

Desert Ashram
3403 W. Sweetwater Drive, Tucson, AZ 85745-9301
Phone: 520-743-0384

International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON)
711 E. Blacklidge Drive, Tucson, AZ 85719
Phone: 520-792-0630

Sadhanalaya
3325 W. Sweetwater Drive
Tucson, AZ 85745-9300, Phone: 520-743-3484

Sri Ram Society Hindu Temple and Guest House
505 W Miracle Mile, Tucson, AZ 85705
Phone: 520-623-1974

Babaji Ramalinga Temple/ Palaniandavar Temple
5750 West 8th Street, Yuma, AZ 85364
Phone: 928-783-7239
  
  Just this morning i read the US forces
  just topped 100 dead troops 
  in Iraq for the month of October...
  Somehow i just don't think this 
  whole pundit thing is working.
  
 
 Heh. They arrived yesterday. 
 And in fact, the claim for the course pre-pundits, is that the 
 yogic flyers' numbers are sufficient to affect
 the US of A internally, 

 NOT events on the 
 other side of the world, save as those 
 events reflect decisions made here in the USA. I 
 don't think that this claim has changed 
 radically with the arrival of the pundits, regardless 
 of what chants they do.

So please tell me *Exactly* the predicted outcome, right now for the 
entire duration of the pundits stay in America?

1. Lawson's / tmo  prediction..

2. Lawson's / tmo  prediction..

3. Lawson's / tmo  prediction..

4. Lawson's / tmo  prediction..

5. Lawson's / tmo  prediction..

Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!


[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
 Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
   
   How would you know a corrupted Pundit 
   from an un-corrupted 
   Pundit?
   
   Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
   Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
   Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
   Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
   Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 
   
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
to make it so and come to think of it, 
   
   Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
  
  Why make so much noise about their 
  non-existance over the years if you didn't care?
 
 i don't care. Simply because a few months ago the indian tmo 
 rounded up a few (114!..not 10,000!) and taught them all a very 
 simple and commonly available Arti(puja).., dressed them up and sent 
 them to Fairfield means nothing to me.
 However, it certainly impresses the heck out of you.
 
 But then Anoop Chandola onced convinced you Shantinanda was Guru 
 Dev's handpicked sucessor!


Yeah, well, given Professor Chandola's academic and family connections, why 
should I not 
trust him over you?

http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=anoop+chandola


BTW, I never claimed the above. What Chandola told me is that Swami Shatananda 
Saraswati told him that MMY was S. Shatananda's first choice as HIS successor, 
but that 
they wouldn't allow it due to the caste laws.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
 Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
   
   How would you know a corrupted Pundit 
   from an un-corrupted 
   Pundit?
   
   Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
   Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
   Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
   Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
   Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 
   
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
to make it so and come to think of it, 
   
   Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
  
  Why make so much noise about their 
  non-existance over the years if you didn't care?
 
 i don't care. Simply because a few months ago the indian tmo 
 rounded up a few (114!..not 10,000!) and taught them all a very 
 simple and commonly available Arti(puja).., dressed them up and sent 
 them to Fairfield means nothing to me.
 However, it certainly impresses the heck out of you.
 
 But then Anoop Chandola onced convinced you Shantinanda was Guru 
 Dev's handpicked sucessor!
 
   So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield,
and America is much 
   the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06
   does this 
   somehow indicate that it is my fault?
 
  Er, no. And I'm under the impression that the pundits'
  stay is indefinite. Certainly a year or 
  more (since that is the amount of time that 
  Settle pledged to pay for yogic flyers and 
  money has already been pledged specifically 
  for pundits to stay indefinitely and the TMO 
  is collecting those pledges right now).
 
 Simply doesn't matter how long these alledged pundits stay here 
 nothing will change.
  
   And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
   handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
   
  
  Hardly.
 
 So we are agreed- no one will {ph}ly.
  
   How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
 
  Not a clue. That is up to you.
 
 Surely Lawson you are off your meds.., you must have a clue.
  
   The pundits were probably corrupt 
   the momment they decided to hook 
   up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
   
  
  Does anyone reading this doubt that you fervently 
  HOPE that this is the case, regardless of 
  any action you choose to take in the future?
 
 i don't have to hope Sir Lawson..it is a fact..,that these 114 
 kurta/dhoti pajama pundits will not any affect on my life!..period.
 That delusional belief is best left to you.
 
   As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
   (or allow another to 
   make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
   chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
 
  Really? 
  What purpose are these group chants for, 
  according to Indian tradition?
 
 GO to your local Hindu temple and find out for yourself...

They practice yagyas for world peace but aren't really doing it for world peace?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig

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As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.

What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg wrote:
  cold blu ice man  wrote:
   spare egg wrote:
coldbluiceman wrote:
 sparaig  spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
  Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
  Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

How would you know a corrupted Pundit 
from an un-corrupted 
Pundit?

Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis? 
Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length) 
Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length) 
Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee) 

 Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, 
 but I'm almost certain that a few people who 
 have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) 
 would feel obligated to try to their utmost 
 to make it so and come to think of it, 

Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
   
   Why make so much noise about their 
   non-existance over the years if you didn't care?
  
  i don't care. 
  Simply because a few months ago the indian tmo 
  rounded up a few (114!..not 10,000!) 
  and taught them all a very 
  simple and commonly available Arti(puja).., 
  dressed them up and sent 
  them to Fairfield means nothing to me.
  However, it certainly impresses the heck out of you.
  
  But then Anoop Chandola onced convinced you Shantinanda was Guru 
  Dev's handpicked sucessor!
  
So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield,
 and America is much 
the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06
does this 
somehow indicate that it is my fault?
  
   Er, no. And I'm under the impression that the pundits'
   stay is indefinite. Certainly a year or 
   more (since that is the amount of time that 
   Settle pledged to pay for yogic flyers and 
   money has already been pledged specifically 
   for pundits to stay indefinitely and the TMO 
   is collecting those pledges right now).
  
  Simply doesn't matter how long these 
  alledged pundits stay here 
  nothing will change.
   
And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., 
it is because i single-
handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa 
from Austin, TX?

   Hardly.
  
  So we are agreed- no one will {ph}ly.
   
How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
  
   Not a clue. That is up to you.
  
  Surely Lawson you are off your meds.., you must have a clue.
   
The pundits were probably corrupt 
the momment they decided to hook 
up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.

   
   Does anyone reading this doubt that you fervently 
   HOPE that this is the case, regardless of 
   any action you choose to take in the future?
  
  i don't have to hope Sir Lawson..it is a fact..,
  that these 114 
  kurta/dhoti pajama pundits will not 
  any affect on my life!..period.
  That delusional belief is best left to you.
  
As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could change 
the course of human events.
  
   Really? 
   What purpose are these group chants for, 
   according to Indian tradition?
  
  GO to your local Hindu temple and find out for yourself...
 
 They practice yagyas for world peace 
 but aren't really doing it for world peace?

Namaste Sir LAwson Ji..,
What??

Just this morning i read the US forces
just topped 100 dead troops
in Iraq for the month of October...
Somehow i just don't think this
whole pundit thing is working.

   Heh. They arrived yesterday.
   And in fact, the claim for the course pre-pundits, 
   is that the
   yogic flyers' numbers are sufficient to affect
   the US of A internally,

   NOT events on the
   other side of the world, save as those
   events reflect decisions made here in the USA. I
   don't think that this claim has changed
   radically with the arrival of the pundits, regardless
   of what chants they do.

So please tell me *Exactly* the predicted outcome, right now for the
entire duration of the pundits stay in America?

1. Lawson's / tmo prediction..

2. Lawson's / tmo prediction..

3. Lawson's / tmo prediction..

4. Lawson's / tmo prediction..

5. Lawson's / tmo prediction..

Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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snip So please tell me *Exactly* the predicted outcome, right now 
for the
 entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
snip 
 Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!

I think Turq [quoting Richard Bach] said it best several hundred posts 
ago, Argue for your limitations, and they are yours.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 So please tell me *Exactly* the predicted outcome, right now for the
 entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
 
 1. Lawson's / tmo prediction..
 
 2. Lawson's / tmo prediction..
 
 3. Lawson's / tmo prediction..
 
 4. Lawson's / tmo prediction..
 
 5. Lawson's / tmo prediction..
 
 Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!


Well, I have no belief (just hope) in the outcome of this project, but here is 
what the TMO 
says will happen next:


Dr. Hagelin said the number of experts is about to rise to 1500. His 
predictions include:

a surge in the bull Dow market towards 15,000
a drop in oil prices to below $45 a barrel
falling unemployment rates
rising consumer and investor confidence
a 20% drop nationwide in violent crime
a peaceful resolution of the standoffs with North Korea and Iran, and a 
dramatic reduction 
in violence in Iraq
and of greatest interest to the Republicans and Democrats: the party that wins 
the 
November elections will be in a position to hold onto power indefinitely




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman no_reply@ wrote:
  
 
 As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
 (or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
 
 What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?

This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman no_reply@ wrote:
   
  
  As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim
  (or allow another to 
  make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits 
  chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
  
  What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
 
 This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  


According to Steve Perino, no pundit worth his salt would make the claim that 
would 
insinutate a group of pundits chanting Vedic verses could change the course of 
human 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
  , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
   And whatever you do, don't give them a computer. They'll be surfing
   porn faster than you can say Brahma.  :)
  
  Actually, they had a problem on campus with too much bandwidth
  being
  used by students to download porn,
  
 Was porn the problem, or music and video downloads? The network
 admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the latter.

I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult nature are now
being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and videos, and porn
blocking is just an added feature of the new firewall. Or, maybe the
network admin just doesn't want to admit that the World's Most Satvic
and Enlightened Students download porn.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   There is no such thing such as Vedic porn. A pussy is a pussy whether it's American or indian or Chinese or African. What kind of moron are you.?? In what way it'll speed up your evolution.?? You complain if Charlie Lutes visits a strip club. Maybe it was a Vedic Strip-club.?? Why do you accuse Maharishi as a Boghi.?? Maybe Maharishi was speeding his evolution.?? You are most prejudiced, biased Anti-TM person in this forum. Buddhist Porn might be suited for You.??  Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:11:17 -0400Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic Pandits - etiquetteThere's Vedic porn? Where can I get some! This could really speed my evolution. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Peter


--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
   , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

And whatever you do, don't give them a
 computer. They'll be surfing
porn faster than you can say Brahma.  :)
   
   Actually, they had a problem on campus with too
 much bandwidth
   being
   used by students to download porn,
   
  Was porn the problem, or music and video
 downloads? The network
  admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the
 latter.
 
 I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult
 nature are now
 being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and
 videos, and porn
 blocking is just an added feature of the new
 firewall. Or, maybe the
 network admin just doesn't want to admit that the
 World's Most Satvic
 and Enlightened Students download porn.

MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the
reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's
ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King
Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite
interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals
at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with
married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Vaj


It was a joke dip-shit.On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Jason Spock wrote:        There is no such thing such as Vedic porn.  A pussy is a pussy whether it's American or indian or Chinese or African.  What kind of moron are you.??         In what way it'll speed up your evolution.??  You complain if Charlie Lutes visits a strip club.  Maybe it was a Vedic Strip-club.??  Why do you accuse Maharishi as a Boghi.??  Maybe Maharishi was speeding his evolution.??         You are most prejudiced, biased Anti-TM person in this forum.  Buddhist Porn might be suited for You.??  Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:11:17 -0400Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic Pandits - etiquette     There's Vedic porn? Where can I get some! This could really speed my evolution.        We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   King Tony failed to mention the genitals because Men and women have different ones. Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified Field is impossible. It's easier for the TM-org to believe that Storks bring babies. Neat andno fuss. Exc. Bevan Looks innocent. Did he really do that.??Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 03:54:12 -0800
 (PST)Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteMMY and the TMO have never come to terms with thereality of sexual desire among their flock. It'signored in the hope that it will just go away. KingTony's book about the veda and the body is quiteinteresting due to its failure to mention the genitalsat all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades withmarried women over the years. Split-off sexuality hasa life of its own. 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Peter


--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   King Tony failed to mention the genitals
 because Men and women have different ones. 
 Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified
 Field is impossible.

   It's easier for the TM-org to believe that
 Storks bring babies.  Neat and no fuss.

   Exc. Bevan Looks innocent.  Did he really do
 that.??

Unfortunately the rumors have been flying around for
years and then more than rumors came out. I don't
really fault him for this. He's a red blooded guy who
wanted to have sex. What's he supposed to do?








 
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   MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the
 reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's
 ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King
 Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite
 interesting due to its failure to mention the
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On Oct 29, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Jason Spock wrote: King Tony failed to mention the genitals because Men and women have different ones.  Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified Field is impossible. It's easier for the TM-org to believe that Storks bring babies.  Neat and no fuss. Exc. Bevan Looks innocent.  Did he really do that.??Oh puleeze. Now genitalia are unvedic? 
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2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   I get the suspicion it's TM-orgs fault. The kind of put blinkers on you and prevent you from studying other philosophies. If Exc. Bevan had studied a range of philosophies and seen a lot of Gurus, his outlook or perception might have widened and he would not have indulged in these things.???  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 04:39:26 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteUnfortunately the rumors have been flying around foryears and then more than rumors came out. I don'treally fault him for this. He's a red blooded guy whowanted to have sex. What's he supposed to do?--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: King Tony failed to mention the genitals because Men and women have different ones.  Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified Field is impossible.  It's easier for the TM-org to believe
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IIRC, M said if you want to have sex, you should get married. If he was really following M as his guru, he should've listened to him. Of course it's a good thing for Bevaniji that he is capable of making his own independent decisions.On Oct 29, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Jason Spock wrote: I get the suspicion it's TM-orgs fault.  The kind of put blinkers on you and prevent you from studying other philosophies. If Exc. Bevan had studied a range of philosophies and seen a lot of Gurus, his outlook or perception might have widened and he would not have indulged in these things.???
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2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   What I meant is that Genitalia is Duality based. Unified field is based on Unity.Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:35:50 -0500Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteOh puleeze. Now genitalia are unvedic?  On Oct 29, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Jason Spock wrote King Tony failed to mention the genitals because Men and women have different ones. Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified Field is impossible.It's easier for the TM-org to believe that Storks bring babies. Neat and no fuss.Exc. Bevan Looks innocent. Did he really do that.?? 

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2006-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I get the suspicion it's TM-orgs fault.  The kind of put 
 blinkers on you and prevent you from studying other 
 philosophies.

 If Exc. Bevan had studied a range of philosophies and seen 
 a lot of Gurus, his outlook or perception might have widened 
 and he would not have indulged in these things.???

Of all the things one might wish for Bevan, 
being widened is not one of them.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC, M said if you want to have sex, you should get married. 
 If he was really following M as his guru, he should've listened 
 to him. Of course it's a good thing for Bevaniji that he is 
 capable of making his own independent decisions.

The exact wording, in Maharishi's famous tape, is
that there are only two viable ways of life -- being
married or being celibate. Everything else, in his
words, was a waste of life.

So Bevan's still on the program. It's just that he
chose to belong to the Waste Of Life group.  :-)






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread llundrub
So there's something wrong with screwing? Besides the conventional moral 
implications which are basically socioeconomic?


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From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette




 --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
   , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
And whatever you do, don't give them a
 computer. They'll be surfing
porn faster than you can say Brahma.  :)
  
   Actually, they had a problem on campus with too
 much bandwidth
   being
   used by students to download porn,
  
  Was porn the problem, or music and video
 downloads? The network
  admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the
 latter.

 I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult
 nature are now
 being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and
 videos, and porn
 blocking is just an added feature of the new
 firewall. Or, maybe the
 network admin just doesn't want to admit that the
 World's Most Satvic
 and Enlightened Students download porn.

 MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the
 reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's
 ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King
 Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite
 interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals
 at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with
 married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has
 a life of its own.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   For the Female who is going to carry the genes, it's the Quality that matters. She wants to have the best possible genes for her offspring so that it has a better chance of survival. For the Male, it's the Quantity that matters. He wants to spread his genes far and wide. As much as possible. It's called the 'Coolidge effect'. These aspects evolved over millions of years, Sir Kirk.llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   Heh heh, He has a big butt, eh.?? I wonder if his diet is Vedic.?? Maybe too much Ghee or Butter.??TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:20:56 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteOf all the things one might wish for Bevan, being widened is not one of them. :-)--- Jason Spock jedi_spock@ ... wrote: I get the suspicion it's TM-orgs fault. The kind of put  blinkers on you and prevent you from studying other  philosophies.  If Exc. Bevan had studied a range of philosophies and seen  a lot of Gurus, his outlook or perception might have widened  and he would not have indulged in these things.??? 
	



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread llundrub





Unforunately quantity is easier to determine than 
quality.

  - Original Message - 
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  Jason 
  Spock 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:45 
  AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic 
  Pandits - etiquette
  
  
   For the 
  Female who is going to carry the genes, it's the Quality that matters. 
  She wants to have the best possible genes for her offspring so that it has a 
  better chance of survival.
  
   For the Male, 
  it's the Quantity that matters. He wants to spread his genes far and 
  wide. As much as possible. It's called the 'Coolidge 
  effect'.
  
   These aspects 
  evolved over millions of years, Sir Kirk.llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:26:17 
  -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - 
  etiquette
  
  So there's 
  something wrong with screwing? Besides the conventional moral implications 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette





on 10/29/06 8:23 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC, M said if you want to have sex, you should get married. 
 If he was really following M as his guru, he should've listened 
 to him. Of course it's a good thing for Bevaniji that he is 
 capable of making his own independent decisions.

The exact wording, in Maharishi's famous tape, is
that there are only two viable ways of life -- being
married or being celibate. Everything else, in his
words, was a waste of life.

So Bevan's still on the program. It's just that he
chose to belong to the Waste Of Life group. :-)

As did MMY, by his own definition.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Once upon a time in the land of abundant sexual pleasures a man came from California to sexland. He claimed to be celibate until he met deva Marcia. Deva marcia had the finest charms in the land. Before he arrived and they were introduced five cherubims were chosen to give love but no sex. 

One of those was Deva Marcia. Long black hair, tinted bright skin, luscious eyes, and a body that would make any man crave. Well depends if you like veluptuous asses, medium large breast, medium thighs, beautiful hands if this be your type then you will relate. 

TK arrived from California having been painted as a yogic saint who was willing to donate major money to assist the children of TLAS. 

Since there were five women to help with his every need he did fine until he met Deva Marcia and she asked How may I serve you my brother? OH BOY!

Soon the man called his wife and told her he wanted a divorce. He found his soulmate...

His wife went hysterical and the battles began he could not think of anything but Deva Marcia. The Karma Gods got angry and image went to the domes and never came back. The effort got abandoned and he drives a taxi satvicly
- Original Message From: llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:26:17 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
So there's something wrong with screwing? Besides the conventional moral implications which are basically socioeconomic?- Original Message - From: "Peter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:54 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com   , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:   And whatever you do, don't give
 them a computer. They'll be surfingporn faster than you can say Brahma.:) Actually, they had a problem on campus with too much bandwidth   being   used by students to download porn,Was porn the problem, or music and video downloads? The network  admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the latter. I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult nature are now being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and videos, and porn blocking is just an added feature of the new firewall. Or, maybe the network admin just doesn't want to admit that the World's Most Satvic and Enlightened Students download porn. MMY and
 the TMO have never come to terms with the reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has a life of its own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Do you know that screwing people have a different vibe than non screwers? I used to be so paranoid that people would know if I was a screwer. Probably why I stopped or did not do very much around the movement. Because I wanted to keep my screwer side secret. Kind a like I was afraid that if I screwed that I was stand in front of Suzy Levin and she would see me clothes less with a giant u know what sticking out

I'll bet at least one of these guys are so afraid that they might be found out that they would never do anything like that.

- Original Message From: Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:45:28 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

 For the Female who is going to carry the genes, it's the Quality that matters. She wants to have the best possible genes for her offspring so that it has a better chance of survival.

 For the Male, it's the Quantity that matters. He wants to spread his genes far and wide. As much as possible. It's called the 'Coolidge effect'.

 These aspects evolved over millions of years, Sir Kirk.llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:26:17 -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

So there's something wrong with screwing? Besides the conventional moral implications which are basically socioeconomic?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


I once read on I think that site Transnet that one guy former MIU student became a transvestite. I was surprised.
- Original Message From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:54:12 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com   , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:And whatever you do, don't give them a computer. They'll be surfingporn faster than you can say Brahma.:)  Actually, they had a problem on campus with too much bandwidth   being   used by students to download porn, Was porn the problem, or music and video downloads? The network  admin is a friend of mine,
 and he mentioned the latter.  I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult nature are now being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and videos, and porn blocking is just an added feature of the new firewall. Or, maybe the network admin just doesn't want to admit that the World's Most Satvic and Enlightened Students download porn.MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with thereality of sexual desire among their flock. It'signored in the hope that it will just go away. KingTony's book about the veda and the body is quiteinteresting due to its failure to mention the genitalsat all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades withmarried women over the years. Split-off sexuality hasa life of its own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Do closet gays use married women because they dont have to be committed?
- Original Message From: Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:25:21 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

 King Tony failed to mention the genitals because Men and women have different ones. Corelating them on the Vedic plane of the Unified Field is impossible.

 It's easier for the TM-org to believe that Storks bring babies. Neat andno fuss.

 Exc. Bevan Looks innocent. Did he really do that.??Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 03:54:12 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with thereality of sexual desire among their flock. It'signored in the hope that it will just go away. KingTony's book about the veda and the body is quiteinteresting due to its failure to mention the genitalsat all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades withmarried women over the years. Split-off sexuality hasa life of its own.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


I think it was Ram Das who loved porn. He used to have to go to X rated movie theaters to see it. Till he started getting caught.
- Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:18:02 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteIt was a joke dip-shit.


On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Jason Spock wrote:


 There is no such thing such as Vedic porn. A pussy is a pussy whether it's American or indian or Chinese or African. What kind of moron are you.??

 In what way it'll speed up your evolution.?? You complain if Charlie Lutes visits a strip club. Maybe it was a Vedic Strip-club.?? Why do you accuse Maharishi as a Boghi.?? Maybe Maharishi was speeding his evolution.??

 You are most prejudiced, biased Anti-TM person in this forum. Buddhist Porn might be suited for You.??
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There's Vedic porn? Where can I get some! This could really speed my evolution.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread llundrub





I used to screw behinds curtains during class in 
the LCs.


  - Original Message - 
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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic 
  Pandits - etiquette
  
  
  Do 
  you know that screwing people have a different vibe than non screwers? I 
  used to be so paranoid that people would know if I was a screwer. 
  Probably why I stopped or did not do very much around the 
  movement. Because I wanted to keep my screwer side 
  secret. Kind a like I was afraid that if I screwed that I was 
  stand in front of Suzy Levin and she would see me clothes less with a giant u 
  know what sticking out
  
  I'll 
  bet at least one of these guys are so afraid that they might be found out that 
  they would never do anything like that.
  
  - 
  Original Message From: Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:45:28 
  AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
  
   For the 
  Female who is going to carry the genes, it's the Quality that matters. 
  She wants to have the best possible genes for her offspring so that it has a 
  better chance of survival.
  
   For the Male, 
  it's the Quantity that matters. He wants to spread his genes far and 
  wide. As much as possible. It's called the 'Coolidge 
  effect'.
  
   These aspects 
  evolved over millions of years, Sir Kirk.llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:26:17 
  -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - 
  etiquette
  
  So there's 
  something wrong with screwing? Besides the conventional moral implications 
  which are basically socioeconomic?
  
  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread llundrub





I love porn and consider porn beauties to be very 
nice. People willing to give their all. Most of us just don't have what it takes 
though. May porn models live long and be healthy and happy. The world needs all 
the beauty it can hold. 

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  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:04 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic 
  Pandits - etiquette
  
  
  I 
  think it was Ram Das who loved porn. He used to have to go to X rated 
  movie theaters to see it. Till he started getting caught.
  - 
  Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: 
  Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:18:02 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic 
  Pandits - etiquetteIt was a joke dip-shit. 
  
  
  On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Jason Spock wrote:
  

 There is no 
such thing such as Vedic porn. A pussy is a pussy whether it's 
American or indian or Chinese or African. What kind of moron are 
you.??

 In what way 
it'll speed up your evolution.?? You complain if Charlie Lutes visits 
a strip club. Maybe it was a Vedic Strip-club.?? Why do you 
accuse Maharishi as a Boghi.?? Maybe Maharishi was speeding his 
evolution.??

 You are 
most prejudiced, biased Anti-TM person in this forum. Buddhist Porn 
might be suited for You.??
Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:11:17 
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etiquette

There's Vedic 
porn? Where can I get some! This could really speed my 
evolution.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   Sir Kirk, in a pure Capitalistic System, It's all based on 'Demand and Supply'. Whare there is a demand for something, there is also a supply. No demant and No Supply. Porn models are just doing Service to Society. They are responding to a demand in the economy. Consider them as any other Professionals. These kind of services existed in all civilisations in all countries and all cultures.llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:34:17 -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteI love porn and consider porn beauties to be very nice. People willing to give their all. Most of us just don't have what it takes though. May porn models live long and be healthy and happy. The world needs all the beauty it can hold.

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2006-10-29 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I once read on I think that site Transnet that one guy former MIU
student became a transvestite. I was surprised.

Oh and then there is the birth of Skanda/Subramanian/Murugan from
Vishnu and Shiva when Vishnu does a Mohini.

 
 
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 From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:54:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
 
 
 --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
  groups@ wrote:
  
   on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 And whatever you do, don't give them a
  computer. They'll be surfing
 porn faster than you can say Brahma.  :)

Actually, they had a problem on campus with too
  much bandwidth
being
used by students to download porn,

   Was porn the problem, or music and video
  downloads? The network
   admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the
  latter.
  
  I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult
  nature are now
  being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and
  videos, and porn
  blocking is just an added feature of the new
  firewall. Or, maybe the
  network admin just doesn't want to admit that the
  World's Most Satvic
  and Enlightened Students download porn.
 
 MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the
 reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's
 ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King
 Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite
 interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals
 at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with
 married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has
 a life of its own.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
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2006-10-29 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I once read on I think that site Transnet that one guy former MIU
student became a transvestite. I was surprised.
If you read Dr Robert Svoboda's english language version of the Shani
Mahatmya in the Mercury chapter there is an account of a Vedic Raja
who was constantly changing his / her gender. It states the subjects
weren't totally comfortable with it though.



 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:54:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
 
 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
  groups@ wrote:
  
   on 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 And whatever you do, don't give them a
  computer. They'll be surfing
 porn faster than you can say Brahma.  :)

Actually, they had a problem on campus with too
  much bandwidth
being
used by students to download porn,

   Was porn the problem, or music and video
  downloads? The network
   admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the
  latter.
  
  I was told that it was porn, and sites of an adult
  nature are now
  being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and
  videos, and porn
  blocking is just an added feature of the new
  firewall. Or, maybe the
  network admin just doesn't want to admit that the
  World's Most Satvic
  and Enlightened Students download porn.
 
 MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the
 reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's
 ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King
 Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite
 interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals
 at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with
 married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has
 a life of its own.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

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   Shiva's seed was taken by Agni. Agni finaly bore Skanda/Murugan. I'm not sure how accurate your point is. Would you care to give more details on it.??shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:14:06 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteOh and then there is the birth of Skanda/Subramanian/ Murugan fromVishnu and Shiva when Vishnu does a Mohini. 
  

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2006-10-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
wrote:
 
  I once read on I think that site Transnet that one guy former MIU
  student became a transvestite. I was surprised.

 If you read Dr Robert Svoboda's english language version of the 
 Shani Mahatmya in the Mercury chapter there is an account of a 
 Vedic Raja who was constantly changing his / her gender. It states 
 the subjects weren't totally comfortable with it though.

From Wikipedia, Homosexuality and Hinduism:

Mahabharata
In the Mahabharata, the hero Arjuna takes a vow of eunuchism to 
live as the third sex for a year: O lord of the Earth, I will 
declare myself as one of the neuter sex. O monarch, it is, indeed 
difficult to hide the marks of the bowstring on my arms. I will, 
however, cover both my cicatrized arms with bangles. Wearing 
brilliant rings on my ears and conch-bangles on my wrists and causing 
a braid to hang down from my head, I shall, O king, appear as one of 
the third sex, Vrihannala by name.[16]

Another important character, Sikhandi, is born female, but raised as 
a boy. Sihkandi's father, King Drupada, had begged the god Mahadeva 
to give him a son, to which Mahadeva replied: Thou shalt have a 
child who will be a female and male. Desist, O king, it will not be 
otherwise. When Sikhandi comes of age and marries, Sikhandi's 
wife soon came to know that [Sikhandi] was a women like herself. 
Fleeing from the unnamed wife's enraged father, Sikhandi encounters a 
male Yaksha (nature spirit) in the forest, and they agree to swap 
sexes. Now in a male body, Sikhandi proves to his father-in-law that 
he is truly male, after the latter sends a number of young ladies of 
great beauty to Sikhandi to test him. They report back that he is a 
powerful person of the masculine sex, and Sikhandi becomes a skilled 
and famous warrior, playing a pivotal role in the war.[17]

Padma Purana
The hero Arjuna also changes sex in a story from the Padma Purana, 
becoming a woman called Arjuni and desiring the male god Krishna. 
Arjuni is overcome with desire for Krishna — His every limb seemed 
to be that of the god of love, satiated with the pleasure of rasa. 
Seeing that Arjuni was aroused, the all-knowing Hrishikesa [Krishna] 
took her hand and indulged in all the sports in the forest. The Great 
Lord sported with her secretly, at will. Then putting His arm on her 
shoulder, and coming to Sharada, He said: `Quickly bathe this 
slender, gently smiling lady, who is exhausted with play, in the 
western lake.' Upon entering the water, Arjuni is transformed back 
into Arjuna. Then, Krishna, seeing that Arjuna was depressed and 
heartbroken, touched him with His magic hand, so that he became aware 
of his nature, saying, O Arjuna, you will curse Me if you talk to 
anyone about the secret which you wanted to know and have 
experienced.[18]

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Well this was in the 70's and he would go to theaters in New York
- Original Message From: Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:09:49 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

 Who is this Ram Das you are reffering to.? Where did he go the see the Porn.??

 A friend of mine who lives near the Ashram of Kanchi Shankaracharya, Jeyandra Sarasvati, told me that he Watches Hardcore porn in his bedroom.Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I think it was Ram Das who loved porn. He used to have to go to X rated movie theaters to see it. Till he started getting caught.


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2006-10-29 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  Who is this Ram Das you are reffering to.?  Where did he go the
see the Porn.??

   A friend of mine who lives near the Ashram of Kanchi
Shankaracharya, Jeyandra Sarasvati, told me that he Watches Hardcore
porn in his bedroom.


I think he's the one who is/was in prision for murder. 

I had audience with him in a group of 50. He appeared to have a
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Man I am not talking about any Raja I hope I am talking about a guy I went to school with...I am trying to find out if this is true or not.
- Original Message From: shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:10:40 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once read on I think that site Transnet that one guy former MIUstudent became a transvestite. I was surprised.If you read Dr Robert Svoboda's english language version of the ShaniMahatmya in the Mercury chapter there is an account of a Vedic Rajawho was constantly changing his / her gender. It states the subjectsweren't totally comfortable with it though.   - Original Message  From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:54:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette   --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  groups@ wrote: on
 10/28/06 2:14 PM, Alex Stanley at  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:  And whatever you do, don't give them a  computer. They'll be surfing porn faster than you can say Brahma.:)Actually, they had a problem on campus with too  much bandwidthbeingused by students to download porn,   Was porn the problem, or music and video  downloads? The network   admin is a friend of mine, and he mentioned the  latter.I was told that it was porn, and
 sites of an adult  nature are now  being blocked. But, maybe it was just music and  videos, and porn  blocking is just an added feature of the new  firewall. Or, maybe the  network admin just doesn't want to admit that the  World's Most Satvic  and Enlightened Students download porn.  MMY and the TMO have never come to terms with the reality of sexual desire among their flock. It's ignored in the hope that it will just go away. King Tony's book about the veda and the body is quite interesting due to its failure to mention the genitals at all. And look at Bevan's sexual escapades with married women over the years. Split-off sexuality has a life of its own.   To subscribe, send a message to:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Louis McKenzie


Shiva's seed was taken by Agni. Agni is male no?
- Original Message From: Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:22:38 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

 Shiva's seed was taken by Agni. Agni finaly bore Skanda/Murugan.

 I'm not sure how accurate your point is. Would you care to give more details on it.??shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:14:06 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

Oh and then there is the birth of Skanda/Subramanian/ Murugan fromVishnu and Shiva when Vishnu does a Mohini.



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2006-10-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
   
   Who is this Ram Das you are reffering to.?  Where did he go the
 see the Porn.??
 
A friend of mine who lives near the Ashram of Kanchi
 Shankaracharya, Jeyandra Sarasvati, told me that he Watches Hardcore
 porn in his bedroom.
 
 
 I think he's the one who is/was in prision for murder.

Ram Dass, aka Richard Alpert, was Timothy
Leary's compatriot in the heyday of LSD.


 
 
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 substantial demeanor.






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2006-10-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 28, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  From my Inbox:
 
  Vedic Pandits - etiquette
 
 Is that similar to the etiquette for Vedic pandas?
 

Please Don't Feed the Pandits?




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2006-10-29 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
  

Who is this Ram Das you are reffering to.?  Where did he go the
  see the Porn.??
  
 A friend of mine who lives near the Ashram of Kanchi
  Shankaracharya, Jeyandra Sarasvati, told me that he Watches Hardcore
  porn in his bedroom.
  
  
  I think he's the one who is/was in prision for murder.
 
 Ram Dass, aka Richard Alpert, was Timothy
 Leary's compatriot in the heyday of LSD.
 

Just in case their is a misunderstanding, I was refering to Jeyandra
Sarasvati. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??

Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few 
people who 
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try 
to their utmost 
to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably 
feel the 
same way. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-29 Thread Jason Spock



   Well, in Mahabharata Agni is the father of Draupadi. So he has to be masculine. or perhaps neutral.??Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 08:40:23 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteShiva's seed was taken by Agni. Agni is male no?   

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