Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

[Lorrie]

On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote:

> This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming
> and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun
> :-)

It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little 
songs to sing to my cats :-) 

Lorrie


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[Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[Emeraldkittee]

Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's hiding and 
acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him.   All he wants 
is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air.  this is against my better 
judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every 
time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill 
him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we 
tried to do to help him.  
 


--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:


From: Laurieskatz 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM


I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of 
water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. 

Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.



"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. 
Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their 
happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on 
superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, 
defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your 
foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ 
 Fyodor Dostoyevsky





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Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again



When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting 
it with my fingers. 

(Chicken & Beef flavors)

Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in 
his mouth.



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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Emeraldkittee 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,

Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but 
have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be 
pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he 
could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to 
eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 
temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is 
telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating 
physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep 
snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell 
out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.  

you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think 
the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best 
care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue 
Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too.  

thanks for all your help.
Shannon

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From: ter...@tazzys.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM



Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.



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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Lorrie 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?
> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his
> room froze over.? ? I am going to get my vet t

Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

[Edna Taylor]

When I clean house I always have the boom box on and a couple of my cats love 
the loud music so I pick them up and dance with them and they just 
purrr and pu :)  Crazy cats :)
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:58:11 -0500
> From: felineres...@kvinet.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
> 
> On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote:
> 
> > This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming
> > and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun
> > :-)
> 
> It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little 
> songs to sing to my cats :-) 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[Natalie]

I wouldn't worry too much if he's not eating until 2-3 days.  When we first get 
feral cats, they either eat like there's no tomorrow, or they don't eat at all. 
By day two, I start fussing with different foods.they never go beyond that 
time.  Might it help to keep him in a large dog crate?  Then he will appreciate 
being out of it and maybe not try so hard to get outside.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's hiding and 
acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him.   All he wants 
is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air.  this is against my better 
judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every 
time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill 
him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we 
tried to do to help him.  
 


--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:


From: Laurieskatz 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM


I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of 
water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. 

Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.



"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. 
Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their 
happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on 
superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, 
defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your 
foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ 
 Fyodor Dostoyevsky





From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again



When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting 
it with my fingers. 

(Chicken & Beef flavors)

Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in 
his mouth.



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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Emeraldkittee 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,

Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but 
have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be 
pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he 
could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to 
eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 
temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is 
telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating 
physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep 
snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell 
out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.  

you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think 
the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. 
 Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue Remedy so 
I'm giving that a try with him too.  

thanks for all your help.
Shannon

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:


From: ter...@tazzys.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM



Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.



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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Lorrie 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to ea

Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

[Emeraldkittee]

we do this too! :)  I also have one kitty who loves Pilates dvd workouts and 
watches them; another who loves the Three Stoges.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Edna Taylor  wrote:


From: Edna Taylor 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:18 AM



When I clean house I always have the boom box on and a couple of my cats love 
the loud music so I pick them up and dance with them and they just 
purrr and pu :)  Crazy cats :)

> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:58:11 -0500
> From: felineres...@kvinet.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
> 
> On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote:
> 
> > This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming
> > and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun
> > :-)
> 
> It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little 
> songs to sing to my cats :-) 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

[Edna Taylor]

HA HA HA :)  
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:03:00 -0800
> From: emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
> 
> we do this too! :)  I also have one kitty who loves Pilates dvd workouts and 
> watches them; another who loves the Three Stoges.
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Edna Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Edna Taylor 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:18 AM
> 
> 
> 
> When I clean house I always have the boom box on and a couple of my cats love 
> the loud music so I pick them up and dance with them and they just 
> purrr and pu :)  Crazy cats :)
> 
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:58:11 -0500
> > From: felineres...@kvinet.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
> > 
> > On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote:
> > 
> > > This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming
> > > and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun
> > > :-)
> > 
> > It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little 
> > songs to sing to my cats :-) 
> > 
> > Lorrie
> > 
> > 
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[Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Peggy Verdonck]

Hi,

Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
a gas station).
We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.

Thanks for any replies,

Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Katy Doyle]

Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
doesn't matter.

--Katy

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
> a gas station).
> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
>
> Thanks for any replies,
>
> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[terrie]

I agree crating the kitty would be a good idea so he does appreciate being out. 
I have feral and semi cats on my property when needed I will trap them and then go into huge dog crates or wire cages until they are better. This certainly makes the process easier and better all around.
(They are all spayed/neutered of course)

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outsideFrom: Natalie Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:02 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI wouldn't worry too much if he's not eating until 2-3 days. When we first get feral cats, they either eat like there's no tomorrow, or they don't eat at all. By day two, I start fussing with different foods.they never go beyond that time. Might it help to keep him in a large dog crate? Then he will appreciate being out of it and maybe not try so hard to get outside.-Original Message-From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of EmeraldkitteeSent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:40 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outsideThanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PMI generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house."Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ ; Fyodor DostoyevskyFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.orgSent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againWhen I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken & Beef flavors)Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth.TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescueDedicated to the welfare of animals.Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againFrom: Emeraldkittee Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help.Shannon--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:From: ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AMCypro is also used to enchance their appetite.Cypro has many uses.TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE 

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Gloria Lane]

We neuter young I think it's 3 pounds. Not all vets do that though. 

Gloria

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wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
> a gas station).
> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
> 
> Thanks for any replies,
> 
> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. 
Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done!
So this would be a good time to do it.

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 Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgHi,Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittensneutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him ata gas station).We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have himneutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.Thanks for any replies,Peggy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Edna Taylor]

My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16 weeks)
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> 
> Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
> doesn't matter.
> 
> --Katy
> 
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
> jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
> > a gas station).
> > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
> >
> > Thanks for any replies,
> >
> > Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds. 
They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under. 
All are tested for the viral diseases.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. 
Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done!
So this would be a good time to do it.

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 Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgHi,Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittensneutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him ata gas station).We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have himneutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.Thanks for any replies,Peggy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Peggy Verdonck]

I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also
call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten
like that vaccinated against Felv?

2010/12/27 

>  Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
> All are tested for the viral diseases.
>
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
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> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>
> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
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>
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>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> From: 
> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
>
> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
> not.
> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
> done!
> So this would be a good time to do it.
>
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
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>
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>
>
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>   Original Message 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> From: Peggy Verdonck 
> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
> a gas station).
> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
>
> Thanks for any replies,
>
> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Peggy Verdonck]

I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!

2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck 

> I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also
> call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten
> like that vaccinated against Felv?
>
> 2010/12/27 
>
>  Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
>> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
>> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
>> All are tested for the viral diseases.
>>
>> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
>> Sultan, WA. 98294
>> Terrie Mohr-Forker
>> http://tazzys.org/
>> Non-Profit national rescue
>> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>>
>> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
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>>
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
>> From: 
>> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>
>>
>> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
>> not.
>> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
>> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
>> done!
>> So this would be a good time to do it.
>>
>> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
>> Sultan, WA. 98294
>> Terrie Mohr-Forker
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>> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>>
>> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
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>>
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
>> From: Peggy Verdonck 
>> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
>> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
>> at
>> a gas station).
>> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
>> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
>> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
>>
>> Thanks for any replies,
>>
>> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

Yes, they can be given the FELV vaccines.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:54 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will alsocall the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kittenlike that vaccinated against Felv?2010/12/27 > Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.> All are tested for the viral diseases.>> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE> Sultan, WA. 98294> Terrie Mohr-Forker> http://tazzys.org/> Non-Profit national rescue> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.>> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> From: > Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or> not.> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be> done!> So this would be a good time to do it.>> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE> Sultan, WA. 98294> Terrie Mohr-Forker> http://tazzys.org/> Non-Profit national rescue> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.>> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message > Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> From: Peggy Verdonck > Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Hi,>> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at> a gas station).> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.>> Thanks for any replies,>> Peggy> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>>> --> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>>> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>>___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
Big boy!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck > I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also> call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten> like that vaccinated against Felv?>> 2010/12/27 >> Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight>> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.>> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.>> All are tested for the viral diseases. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE>> Sultan, WA. 98294>> Terrie Mohr-Forker>> http://tazzys.org/>> Non-Profit national rescue>> Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males>> From: >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or>> not.>> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.>> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be>> done!>> So this would be a good time to do it. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE>> Sultan, WA. 98294>> Terrie Mohr-Forker>> http://tazzys.org/>> Non-Profit national rescue>> Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males>> From: Peggy Verdonck >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens>> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him>> at>> a gas station).>> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him>> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.>> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already. Thanks for any replies, Peggy>> ___>> Felvtalk mailing list>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>> -->> ___>> Felvtalk mailing list>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>> ___>> Felvtalk mailing list>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Peggy Verdonck]

Yes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. He
was a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put food
out for him.
We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. And
now...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!
He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take the
risk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to go
for their second round of testing.
Fingers crossed!

2010/12/27 

>  LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
> Big boy!
>
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> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>
> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
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>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> From: Peggy Verdonck 
> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!
>
>  2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck 
>
> > I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will
> also
> > call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young
> kitten
> > like that vaccinated against Felv?
> >
> > 2010/12/27 
> >
> > Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
> >> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
> >> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
> >> All are tested for the viral diseases.
> >>
> >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> >> Sultan, WA. 98294
> >> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> >> http://tazzys.org/
> >> Non-Profit national rescue
> >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> >>
> >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >> From: 
> >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>
> >>
> >> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
> >> not.
> >> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
> >> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
> >> done!
> >> So this would be a good time to do it.
> >>
> >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> >> Sultan, WA. 98294
> >> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> >> http://tazzys.org/
> >> Non-Profit national rescue
> >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> >>
> >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> >>
> >>
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> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >> From: Peggy Verdonck 
> >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> >> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
> >> at
> >> a gas station).
> >> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> >> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> >> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> already.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any replies,
> >>
> >> Peggy
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All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy!
Good luck!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 9:22 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgYes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. Hewas a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put foodout for him.We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. Andnow...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take therisk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to gofor their second round of testing.Fingers crossed!2010/12/27 > LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!> Big boy!>> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE> Sultan, WA. 98294> Terrie Mohr-Forker> http://tazzys.org/> Non-Profit national rescue> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.>> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> From: Peggy Verdonck > Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!>> 2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck >> > I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will> also> > call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young> kitten> > like that vaccinated against Felv?> >> > 2010/12/27 > >> > Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight> >> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.> >> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.> >> All are tested for the viral diseases.> >>> >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE> >> Sultan, WA. 98294> >> Terrie Mohr-Forker> >> http://tazzys.org/> >> Non-Profit national rescue> >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.> >>> >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.> >>> >>> >>> >>  Original Message > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> >> From: > >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>> >>> >> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or> >> not.> >> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.> >> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be> >> done!> >> So this would be a good time to do it.> >>> >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE> >> Sultan, WA. 98294> >> Terrie Mohr-Forker> >> http://tazzys.org/> >> Non-Profit national rescue> >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.> >>> >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.> >>> >>> >>> >>  Original Message > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> >> From: Peggy Verdonck > >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>> >> Hi,> >>> >> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens> >> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him> >> at> >> a gas station).> >> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him> >> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.> >> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing> already.> >>> >> Thanks for any replies,> >>> >> Peggy> >> ___> >> Felvtalk mailing list> >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >>> >>> >> --> >> ___> >> Felvtalk mailing list> >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >>> >>> >> ___> >> Felvtalk mailing list> >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >>> >>> >> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>>> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org>>___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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[Peggy Verdonck]

Thank you! :-)

2010/12/27 

>  All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy!
> Good luck!
>
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
> Non-Profit national rescue
> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>
> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
>
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> From: Peggy Verdonck 
>  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 9:22 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> Yes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. He
> was a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put food
> out for him.
> We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. And
> now...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!
> He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take the
> risk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to
> go
> for their second round of testing.
> Fingers crossed!
>
> 2010/12/27 
>
> > LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
> > Big boy!
> >
> > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> > Sultan, WA. 98294
> > Terrie Mohr-Forker
> > http://tazzys.org/
> > Non-Profit national rescue
> > Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> >
> > Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > From: Peggy Verdonck 
> > Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >
> > I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!
> >
> > 2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck 
> >
> > > I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will
> > also
> > > call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young
> > kitten
> > > like that vaccinated against Felv?
> > >
> > > 2010/12/27 
> > >
> > > Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest
> weight
> > >> of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
> > >> They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
> > >> All are tested for the viral diseases.
> > >>
> > >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> > >> Sultan, WA. 98294
> > >> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> > >> http://tazzys.org/
> > >> Non-Profit national rescue
> > >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> > >>
> > >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Original Message 
> > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >> From: 
> > >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral
> or
> > >> not.
> > >> Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
> > >> In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
> > >> done!
> > >> So this would be a good time to do it.
> > >>
> > >> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> > >> Sultan, WA. 98294
> > >> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> > >> http://tazzys.org/
> > >> Non-Profit national rescue
> > >> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> > >>
> > >> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Original Message 
> > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >> From: Peggy Verdonck 
> > >> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > >> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
> him
> > >> at
> > >> a gas station).
> > >> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > >> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > >> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> > already.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for any replies,
> > >>
> > >> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Kelley Saveika]

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>
> My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
> weeks)
>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> age
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> > --Katy
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
> > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
> him at
> > > a gas station).
> > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > > neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> already.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any replies,
> > >
> > > Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Susan Hoffman]

We do them at 2 pounds/2 months in northern California.  With the girls we may 
wait till they are closer to 3 pounds though.

Cats can start going into heat at 4-1/2 months.  And with the boys, the sooner 
they are neutered the less likely they are to become sprayers.  If you are 
planning on adopting the little guy out I would suggest fixing him as soon as 
possible.  If he turns into a sprayer he will really not be adoptable to an 
indoor only home.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

> From: Kelley Saveika 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:52 AM
> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will
> not do them before that, and from what
> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
> in dogs I can't
> blame him.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
> surgery (usually 16
> > weeks)
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > age
> > > doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > --Katy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
> <
> > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick question. At what age do you
> guys have your male kittens
> > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
> (not sure exactly, found
> > him at
> > > > a gas station).
> > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
> I was thinking to have him
> > > > neutered at the same time because it would
> save us a lot of money.
> > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
> testicals are showing
> > already.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any replies,
> > > >
> > > > Peggy
> > > >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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> lovers they
> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the
> animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
> continue."
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Natalie]

Just make sure that the vet knows how to deal with neutering such a small
kitten - not all do!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
doesn't matter.

--Katy

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
at
> a gas station).
> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
>
> Thanks for any replies,
>
> Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Natalie]

I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>
> My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
> weeks)
>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> age
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> > --Katy
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
> > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
> him at
> > > a gas station).
> > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > > neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> already.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any replies,
> > >
> > > Peggy
> > > ___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Kim]

I usually wait until they are 6 months old also.  However, I currently have
a litter of 1 female and 2 males and I was wanting to get it done before
they became sexually mature.  I have them scheduled for the middle of
January and they will be only 4 1/2 months old.  What are the future health
problems for early spays and neuters.  I haven't heard about this before.
Perhaps I need to reschedule for a later date?

"...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet..."
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>
> My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
> weeks)
>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> age
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> > --Katy
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
> > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
> him at
> > > a gas station).
> > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > > neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> already.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any replies,
> > >
> > > Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Gloria Lane]

Right our vet does 2 lb 2 mo for boys also and later for girls.  We never have 
problems with the early neuter but like someone said *not all vets do it* - not 
all are experienced at doing it. So probably good to get one who's done it 
before and you trust.

Gloria

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On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Susan Hoffman  wrote:

> We do them at 2 pounds/2 months in northern California.  With the girls we 
> may wait till they are closer to 3 pounds though.
> 
> Cats can start going into heat at 4-1/2 months.  And with the boys, the 
> sooner they are neutered the less likely they are to become sprayers.  If you 
> are planning on adopting the little guy out I would suggest fixing him as 
> soon as possible.  If he turns into a sprayer he will really not be adoptable 
> to an indoor only home.
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Kelley Saveika  wrote:
> 
>> From: Kelley Saveika 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:52 AM
>> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will
>> not do them before that, and from what
>> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
>> in dogs I can't
>> blame him.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
>> surgery (usually 16
>>> weeks)
>>> 
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
>> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
>>> age
 doesn't matter.
 
 --Katy
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
>> <
 jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick question. At what age do you
>> guys have your male kittens
> neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
>> (not sure exactly, found
>>> him at
> a gas station).
> We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
>> I was thinking to have him
> neutered at the same time because it would
>> save us a lot of money.
> He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
>> testicals are showing
>>> already.
> 
> Thanks for any replies,
> 
> Peggy
> 
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>> 
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>> lovers they
>> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the
>> animals, that they
>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
>> continue."
>> 
>> - Nathan Winograd
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[Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: FELV+ Gino needs a home

[Beverly Parsons]

JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is 
still looking for a home for Gino, a two year old FELV+ cat.

Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on 
petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711.  

Gino is gorgeous and lovable, and gets along with dogs!  Because he is now a 
full fledged house cat and is asymptomatic (recent blood work was perfect) we 
are hoping to find a home rather than a sanctuary.  Second Chance Meows in 
Nevada generously offered to take Gino, but the cost was just too prohibitive 
for our very new rescue, and in any case we felt the funds spent on transport 
would be better spend on medical care for Gino when he needs it.  It would have 
also been a very long and stressful journey for Gino.

And so we hope we may find someone on this list who is closer to us who will 
consider taking Gino into their home.  We are happy to transport to locations 
within driving distance, and will continue to offer support to any adopter.

Do you have room in your home and heart for this gorgeous boy? He will reward 
you with full throated purrs and endless head butts.

Please contact me with any questions.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Natalie]

I've only heard that especially for males, if they're too young and not
sexually mature, there could be urinary problems in the futurefor
females, it seems OK to do it early.  Right now, I have one female and 2
males of about 6-7 months of age. they're not large - absolutely no sign of
anything sexual going on.  But I will spay the female first.  They are
waiting to find homes.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I usually wait until they are 6 months old also.  However, I currently have
a litter of 1 female and 2 males and I was wanting to get it done before
they became sexually mature.  I have them scheduled for the middle of
January and they will be only 4 1/2 months old.  What are the future health
problems for early spays and neuters.  I haven't heard about this before.
Perhaps I need to reschedule for a later date?

"...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet..."
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>
> My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
> weeks)
>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> age
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> > --Katy
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck <
> > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
> > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
> him at
> > > a gas station).
> > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
> > > neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
> > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
> already.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any replies,
> > >
> > > Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Susan Hoffman]

It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  In 
California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered 
animal.  Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very 
experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the standard here and the kittens 
always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:

> From: Natalie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> much later and have never had a
> sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
> believes that
> neutering males so early has some possible future risks
> that are not yet
> known.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> 
> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
> that, and from what
> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
> in dogs I can't
> blame him.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
> surgery (usually 16
> > weeks)
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > age
> > > doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > --Katy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
> <
> > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick question. At what age do you
> guys have your male kittens
> > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
> (not sure exactly, found
> > him at
> > > > a gas station).
> > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
> I was thinking to have him
> > > > neutered at the same time because it would
> save us a lot of money.
> > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
> testicals are showing
> > already.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any replies,
> > > >
> > > > Peggy
> > > >
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> lovers they
> can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the
> animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
> continue."
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Natalie]

I am a rescue group - but we don't have any laws in CT to alter them before
adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal contact with adopters
and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the appropriate times.
But they found that even though people pay for the spay/neuter at the time
of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do it...Whether they do it
on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they don't, and that's why
such a problem continues.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  In
California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an
unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are
very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the standard here and the
kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:

> From: Natalie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> much later and have never had a
> sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
> believes that
> neutering males so early has some possible future risks
> that are not yet
> known.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> 
> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
> that, and from what
> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
> in dogs I can't
> blame him.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
> surgery (usually 16
> > weeks)
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > age
> > > doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > --Katy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
> <
> > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick question. At what age do you
> guys have your male kittens
> > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
> (not sure exactly, found
> > him at
> > > > a gas station).
> > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
> I was thinking to have him
> > > > neutered at the same time because it would
> save us a lot of money.
> > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
> testicals are showing
> > already.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any replies,
> > > >
> > > > Peggy
> > > >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
> 
> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
> 
> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
> 
> Please help Trooper!
> 
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
> 
> 
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal
> lovers they
> can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the
> animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
> continue."
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Susan Hoffman]

Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a 
contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen 
until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age 
spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas 
that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer 
kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to 
adopt them out, fix them first.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:

> From: Natalie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
> I am a rescue group - but we don't
> have any laws in CT to alter them before
> adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
> contact with adopters
> and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
> appropriate times.
> But they found that even though people pay for the
> spay/neuter at the time
> of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
> it...Whether they do it
> on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
> don't, and that's why
> such a problem continues.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> 
> It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
> adoption.  In
> California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
> adopt out an
> unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
> Northern California who are
> very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
> standard here and the
> kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
> surgery.
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Natalie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> > I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> > much later and have never had a
> > sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
> and
> > believes that
> > neutering males so early has some possible future
> risks
> > that are not yet
> > known.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > 
> > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
> before
> > that, and from what
> > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
> s/n
> > in dogs I can't
> > blame him.
> > 
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
> before
> > surgery (usually 16
> > > weeks)
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > > >
> > > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want
> the
> > kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > > age
> > > > doesn't matter.
> > > >
> > > > --Katy
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy
> Verdonck
> > <
> > > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a quick question. At what age do
> you
> > guys have your male kittens
> > > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old
> kitten
> > (not sure exactly, found
> > > him at
> > > > > a gas station).
> > > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv
> and
> > I was thinking to have him
> > > > > neutered at the same time because it
> would
> > save us a lot of money.
> > > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both
> his
> > testicals are showing
> > > already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any replies,
> > > > >
> > > > > Peggy
> > > > >
> > ___
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> > > > >
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> > 
> > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
> > 
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> > 
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> > Please help Trooper!

[Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

[Beth]

My foster FeLV kitty Boo is not eating, either. Shelter ran full blood work 
which was normal & had 2 vets look her over. She swallows a lot like you do 
when you are coming down with a cold, but the vets said she had no fever & her 
throat looked OK. She ate 2 small pieces of chicken & some baby food off my 
finger last night. Ate 1/2 jar of baby food with the help of Cyproheptadine 
this morning. She is at the shelter awaiting a vet appointment. hopefully 
tomorrow. I hate not being with her.

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

[Emeraldkittee]

Beth
 
I am so sorry to hear this, I totally feel your pain.  I wondered if they get 
so stressed at the vet they also clench their teeth and maybe some how hurt 
their tongue/mouth, so it hurts to chew?  It sounds silly, but I was trying to 
think of everything.  I am so glad the cypro is working for you.  I just picked 
up the compounded intradermal kind, since I can't pill Whimsy.
 
we'll be sending you good thoughts and hope they both return to normal asap.
 
Shannon

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Beth  wrote:


From: Beth 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either
To: "FeLV Talk" 
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 3:30 PM


My foster FeLV kitty Boo is not eating, either. Shelter ran full blood work 
which was normal & had 2 vets look her over. She swallows a lot like you do 
when you are coming down with a cold, but the vets said she had no fever & her 
throat looked OK. She ate 2 small pieces of chicken & some baby food off my 
finger last night. Ate 1/2 jar of baby food with the help of Cyproheptadine 
this morning. She is at the shelter awaiting a vet appointment. hopefully 
tomorrow. I hate not being with her.

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

[Laurieskatz]

Swallowing can be symptom of nausea.

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them
of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces
of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

Beth
 
I am so sorry to hear this, I totally feel your pain.  I wondered if they
get so stressed at the vet they also clench their teeth and maybe some how
hurt their tongue/mouth, so it hurts to chew?  It sounds silly, but I was
trying to think of everything.  I am so glad the cypro is working for you. 
I just picked up the compounded intradermal kind, since I can't pill Whimsy.
 
we'll be sending you good thoughts and hope they both return to normal asap.
 
Shannon

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Beth  wrote:


From: Beth 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either
To: "FeLV Talk" 
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 3:30 PM


My foster FeLV kitty Boo is not eating, either. Shelter ran full blood work
which was normal & had 2 vets look her over. She swallows a lot like you do
when you are coming down with a cold, but the vets said she had no fever &
her throat looked OK. She ate 2 small pieces of chicken & some baby food off
my finger last night. Ate 1/2 jar of baby food with the help of
Cyproheptadine this morning. She is at the shelter awaiting a vet
appointment. hopefully tomorrow. I hate not being with her.

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Peggy Verdonck]

Wow, I went outside for a little bit to ride one of our horses.bunches
of new replies :-)

All our other cats were around 9 months old when spayed or neutered. I'm
from the Netherlands and there are not many vets that will do it earlier
then that. I've been reading and listening to the pros and cons to
early/late neutering and spaying, but there are just as many pros as cons in
either of them. I even lean towards early, because a kitten bounces back a
lot quicker then an older cat.
I've personally made up my mind that it is better to neuter young, but not
at like 3 weeks old or so. I don't think much can go wrong with a male. If a
vet messes that up, he needs to go back to school. With females I would wait
till older. It is a lot harder on them because they actually get opened up
and have all their female organs removed..
With my first question I was just wondering at what age most people have
their male kittens neutered. Didn't even think about the weight of the
kitten...makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for the all the replies!

2010/12/27 Susan Hoffman 

> Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a
> contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen
> until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age
> spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas
> that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer
> kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to
> adopt them out, fix them first.
>
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > From: Natalie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
>  > I am a rescue group - but we don't
> > have any laws in CT to alter them before
> > adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
> > contact with adopters
> > and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
> > appropriate times.
> > But they found that even though people pay for the
> > spay/neuter at the time
> > of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
> > it...Whether they do it
> > on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
> > don't, and that's why
> > such a problem continues.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
> > adoption.  In
> > California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
> > adopt out an
> > unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
> > Northern California who are
> > very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
> > standard here and the
> > kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
> > surgery.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Natalie 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> > > I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> > > much later and have never had a
> > > sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
> > and
> > > believes that
> > > neutering males so early has some possible future
> > risks
> > > that are not yet
> > > known.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
> > before
> > > that, and from what
> > > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
> > s/n
> > > in dogs I can't
> > > blame him.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
> > before
> > > surgery (usually 16
> > > > weeks)
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want
> > the
> > > kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > > > age
> > > > > doesn't matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Katy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy
> > Verdonck
> > > <
> > > > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just a quick question. At what age do
> > you
> > > guys have your male kittens
> > > > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old
> > kitten
> > > (not sure exactly, found
> > > > him at
> > > > > > a gas station).
> > > > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv
> > and
> > > I was thinking to h

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Lorrie]

Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.


On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
> blame him.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[MaiMaiPG]

Can you fix an enclosure for him outside?  He could spend some time  
out there then come in?

On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's  
hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come  
near him.   All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell  
of air.  this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed  
and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try'  
something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill  
him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against  
everything we tried to do to help him.




--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:


From: Laurieskatz 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM


I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a  
tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc.


Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.



"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy  
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent.  
Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are  
without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your  
appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you -  
alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~  Fyodor Dostoyevsky






From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again



When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it  
by inserting it with my fingers.


(Chicken & Beef flavors)

Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and  
put it in his mouth.




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Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue

Dedicated to the welfare of animals.


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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Emeraldkittee 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,

Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it  
up, but have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He  
might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to  
the point about whether he could be nauseated).  He turned his nose  
up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed  
chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 temptation treats.  He's  
still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this  
is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones  
now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep  
snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so  
matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.


you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me  
to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to  
give him the best care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy  
is.  I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him  
too.


thanks for all your help.
Shannon

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:


From: ter...@tazzys.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM



Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.



TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue
Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Lorrie 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:


after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
knows we live on

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[Emeraldkittee]

we are talking about that now - we were planning on it in the spring, but it's 
6 below zero today, so we have to figure it out now and what is doable in this 
weather. (and how not to upset him when building it)

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, MaiMaiPG  wrote:


From: MaiMaiPG 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 6:54 PM


Can you fix an enclosure for him outside?  He could spend some time out there 
then come in?
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's hiding and 
> acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him.   All he 
> wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air.  this is against my 
> better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down 
> him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm 
> trying to kill him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against 
> everything we tried to do to help him.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Laurieskatz 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM
> 
> 
> I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit 
> of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc.
> 
> Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.
> 
> 
> 
> "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy 
> untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them 
> of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride 
> yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your 
> greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of 
> your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ 
>  Fyodor Dostoyevsky
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> 
> 
> 
> When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by 
> inserting it with my fingers.
> 
> (Chicken & Beef flavors)
> 
> Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in 
> his mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
> Non-Profit national rescue
> 
> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> 
> 
> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> From: Emeraldkittee 
> Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> 
> hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,
> 
> Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but 
> have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be 
> pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether 
> he could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him 
> to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 
> temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is 
> telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating 
> physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in 
> deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, 
> it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.
> 
> you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think 
> the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best 
> care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue 
> Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too.
> 
> thanks for all your help.
> Shannon
> 
> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: ter...@tazzys.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM
> 
> 
> 
> Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
> Cypro has many uses.
> 
> 
> 
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
> Non-Profit national rescue
> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
> 
> Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
> 
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> From: Lorrie 
> Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> 
> Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
> like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
> and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

I totally agree it is the law here as well.
Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going next week with their moms to be altered.
Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the older the kitty.
My Vets too are very experience doing these spay/neuters at young ages.
I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens.  
I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant at that age.
Male kittens and adults do try to go after them. 
It's nature!

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Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Susan Hoffman Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pmTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgIt's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption. In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:> From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM> I personally do NOT neuter/spay until> much later and have never had a> sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and> believes that> neutering males so early has some possible future risks> that are not yet> known.> > -Original Message-> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]> On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before> that, and from what> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n> in dogs I can't> blame him.> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor > wrote:> > >> > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before> surgery (usually 16> > weeks)> >> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500> > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > >> > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,> > age> > > doesn't matter.> > >> > > --Katy> > >> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck> <> > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>> wrote:> > >> > > > Hi,> > > >> > > > Just a quick question. At what age do you> guys have your male kittens> > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten> (not sure exactly, found> > him at> > > > a gas station).> > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and> I was thinking to have him> > > > neutered at the same time because it would> save us a lot of money.> > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his> testicals are showing> > already.> > > >> > > > Thanks for any replies,> > > >> > > > Peggy> > > >> ___> > > > Felvtalk mailing list> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > >> > > ___> > > Felvtalk mailing list> > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >> > ___> > Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >> > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.> > http://www.rescuties.org> > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20> > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*> > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties> > Please help Trooper!> > http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper> > > "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal> lovers they> can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the> animals, that they> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to> continue."> > - Nathan Winograd> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > ___> Felvtalk 

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[Laurieskatz]

I would not just let him go...he may be trying to find a place to hide and
then you will never find him.
I like the enclosure idea. Even if you could take him outside in a
carrier...
Thoughts and prayers with you. Such a tough thing when they won't eat. Did
the vet suggest an anti nausea pill?

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them
of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces
of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

Can you fix an enclosure for him outside?  He could spend some time  
out there then come in?
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's  
> hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come  
> near him.   All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell  
> of air.  this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed  
> and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try'  
> something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill  
> him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against  
> everything we tried to do to help him.
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:
>
>
> From: Laurieskatz 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM
>
>
> I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a  
> tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc.
>
> Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.
>
>
>
> "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy  
> untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
> deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent.  
> Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are  
> without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your  
> appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you -  
> alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~
 > Fyodor Dostoyevsky
>
>
>
>
>
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> ] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
>
>
>
> When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it  
> by inserting it with my fingers.
>
> (Chicken & Beef flavors)
>
> Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and  
> put it in his mouth.
>
>
>
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>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> From: Emeraldkittee 
> Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,
>
> Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it  
> up, but have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He  
> might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to  
> the point about whether he could be nauseated).  He turned his nose  
> up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed  
> chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 temptation treats.  He's  
> still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this  
> is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones  
> now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep  
> snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so  
> matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.
>
> you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me  
> to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to  
> give him the best care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy  
> is.  I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him  
> too.
>
> thanks for all your help.
> Shannon
>
> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:
>
>
> From: ter...@tazzys.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM
>
>
>
> Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
> Cypro has many uses.
>
>
>
> TAZZY'

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[terrie]

DITTO here!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Susan Hoffman Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:22 pmTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgUnfortunately that has been the experience of too many people. Even with a contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen. Or it doesn't happen until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat. Early age spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation. The areas that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions. So if you're going to adopt them out, fix them first.--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:> From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM> I am a rescue group - but we don't> have any laws in CT to alter them before> adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal> contact with adopters> and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the> appropriate times.> But they found that even though people pay for the> spay/neuter at the time> of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do> it...Whether they do it> on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they> don't, and that's why> such a problem continues.> > -Original Message-> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]> On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for> adoption.  In> California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to> adopt out an> unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in> Northern California who are> very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the> standard here and the> kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their> surgery.> > --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie > wrote:> > > From: Natalie > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM> > I personally do NOT neuter/spay until> > much later and have never had a> > sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,> and> > believes that> > neutering males so early has some possible future> risks> > that are not yet> > known.> > > > -Original Message-> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]> > On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > > > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them> before> > that, and from what> > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early> s/n> > in dogs I can't> > blame him.> > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor > > wrote:> > > > >> > > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds> before> > surgery (usually 16> > > weeks)> > >> > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500> > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males> > > >> > > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want> the> > kitten to weigh 2 pounds,> > > age> > > > doesn't matter.> > > >> > > > --Katy> > > >> > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy> Verdonck> > <> > > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>> > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Hi,> > > > >> > > > > Just a quick question. At what age do> you> > guys have your male kittens> > > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old> kitten> > (not sure exactly, found> > > him at> > > > > a gas station).> > > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv> and> > I was thinking to have him> > > > > neutered at the same time because it> would> > save us a lot of money.> > > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both> his> > testicals are showing> > > already.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for any replies,> > > > >> > > > > Peggy> > > > >> > ___> > > > > Felvtalk mailing list> > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > >> > > >> ___> > > > Felvtalk mailing list> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > >> > > ___> > > Felvtalk mailing list> > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Sav

[Felvtalk] Are vaccinations safe for dogs and cats

[Natalie]

Here's an interesting article on vaccines:

http://www.examiner.com/pet-health-in-national/pet-health-101-are-vaccinatio
ns-safe-for-dogs-and-cats 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Kelley Saveika]

I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I haven't.  The
local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops) will do
them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be spayed
and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a
botched spay - never again.  Our current vet does them at 6 months because
his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that.

We have never had anyone get pregnant.

If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means we
still own the animal and they are fostering.  It works if you can keep up
with it.  We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.
>
>
> On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from
> what
> > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I
> can't
> > blame him.
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[janine paton]

Last year we had a brother/sister feral pair just in, crated together and when 
spayed 2 wks later at 5 1/2 mos, the female was pregnant already with one 
kitten.  


We can't afford to spay.neuter every single litter we take on right away, but 
follow up like crazy with adoptions and our rule is spay/neuter at 5 mos.  They 
do heal faster at a younger age.  


See Winn Feline Foundation website for more information about this - it might 
dispel the myths of early spay/neuter, esp with boys.  


Human children seem to be more prone to early sexuality, why not cats? 

Janine




- Original Message 
From: Peggy Verdonck 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 6:00:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Wow, I went outside for a little bit to ride one of our horses.bunches
of new replies :-)

All our other cats were around 9 months old when spayed or neutered. I'm
from the Netherlands and there are not many vets that will do it earlier
then that. I've been reading and listening to the pros and cons to
early/late neutering and spaying, but there are just as many pros as cons in
either of them. I even lean towards early, because a kitten bounces back a
lot quicker then an older cat.
I've personally made up my mind that it is better to neuter young, but not
at like 3 weeks old or so. I don't think much can go wrong with a male. If a
vet messes that up, he needs to go back to school. With females I would wait
till older. It is a lot harder on them because they actually get opened up
and have all their female organs removed..
With my first question I was just wondering at what age most people have
their male kittens neutered. Didn't even think about the weight of the
kitten...makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for the all the replies!

2010/12/27 Susan Hoffman 

> Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a
> contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen
> until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age
> spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas
> that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer
> kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to
> adopt them out, fix them first.
>
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > From: Natalie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
>  > I am a rescue group - but we don't
> > have any laws in CT to alter them before
> > adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
> > contact with adopters
> > and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
> > appropriate times.
> > But they found that even though people pay for the
> > spay/neuter at the time
> > of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
> > it...Whether they do it
> > on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
> > don't, and that's why
> > such a problem continues.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
> > adoption.  In
> > California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
> > adopt out an
> > unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
> > Northern California who are
> > very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
> > standard here and the
> > kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
> > surgery.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Natalie 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> > > I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> > > much later and have never had a
> > > sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
> > and
> > > believes that
> > > neutering males so early has some possible future
> > risks
> > > that are not yet
> > > known.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
> > before
> > > that, and from what
> > > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
> > s/n
> > > in dogs I can't
> > > blame him.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
> > before
> > > surgery (usually 16
> > > > weeks)
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > > > From: athenapities...@gm

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

[MaiMaiPG]

Believe it or not, there are baby carriages for cats and dogs.  Ebony  
and Mitu had a 12x6x 6 foot tall dog kennel converted to a katt  
screened in porch.  There was a piece of ductwork that went in the  
bathroom window.  They went through a pet door into the ductwork then  
into the kennel (with a topper and ramp and...)  They loved it.  I  
had a 10X10x6 kennel that Dixie and I went to a lot..not enough  
but a lot.  room for a chair and space for a cat to remember being  
outside.  Neither was very expensive.

On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:

I would not just let him go...he may be trying to find a place to  
hide and

then you will never find him.
I like the enclosure idea. Even if you could take him outside in a
carrier...
Thoughts and prayers with you. Such a tough thing when they won't  
eat. Did

the vet suggest an anti nausea pill?

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
deprive them

of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you,  
with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the  
traces

of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

Can you fix an enclosure for him outside?  He could spend some time
out there then come in?
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote:


Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's
hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come
near him.   All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell
of air.  this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed
and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try'
something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill
him.  I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against
everything we tried to do to help him.



--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz  wrote:


From: Laurieskatz 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM


I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a
tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc.

Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.



"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't
deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent.
Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are
without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your
appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you -
alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Belinda Sauro]

My Vet spays and neuters when they are 4 lbs, so all of my guys 
were done about a month ago.  2 boys and a girl, all did fine.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[MaiMaiPG]

Sometimes you have to take the chance and pray you are right.  I had a  
little girl spayed early..she had to stay at the vet's until she  
weighed enough and that was expensive. I think it was worth it  
though.  She has a wonderful home and will have no kittens.  She was a  
tiny feral and catching her once was very hard. Finding her a home at  
3 months (???) of age worked.  I don't know that she could have been  
caught or a home found if she had been much older.  And yes, the  
unneutered males in the area would have led Angel off to an uncertain  
future.


Copper and Thomas were done a little early because I wanted my very  
special vets in Louisville (Middletown Animal Clinic) to take care of  
them.  They weighed enough and one was thinking about spraying.  Both  
needed to be done at the same time to maintain the balance of power.   
There is two weeks or so difference in age. They did wonderfully.   
Don't ask how many times I checked on them that day...


Like I said, sometimes you have to push the calendar and trust the  
vet.  I would hate to turn a kitten/pup that was not spayed or  
neutered over to even the best home..I've watched too many people  
come up with reasons not to get the cat/dog fixed even when the bill  
was being paid and the baby transported and.always a  
reasonand more homeless animals.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM,
wrote:



I totally agree it is the law here as well.
Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the  
desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not  
list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going  
next week with their moms to be altered.
Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the  
older the kitty.
My Vets too are very experience doing these spay/neuters at young  
ages.
I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be  
pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens.
I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in  
the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People  
play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant  
at that age.

Male kittens and adults do try to go after them.
It's nature!

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Sultan, WA. 98294
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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
From: Susan Hoffman 
Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  
In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out  
an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern  
California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's  
the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so  
quickly from their surgery.


--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:

> From: Natalie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> much later and have never had a
> sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
> believes that
> neutering males so early has some possible future risks
> that are not yet
> known.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
>
> We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
> that, and from what
> I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
> in dogs I can't
> blame him.
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
> surgery (usually 16
> > weeks)
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > >
> > > Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
> kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
> > age
> > > doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > --Katy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
> <
> > > jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick question. At what age do you
> guys have your male kittens
> > > > neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
> (not sure exactly, found
> > him at
> > > > a gas station).
> > > > We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
> I was thinking to have him
> > > > neutered at the same time because it would
> save us a lot of money.
> > > > He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
> testicals are showing
> > already.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any replies,
> > > >
> > > > Peggy
> > > >
> _

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

[Natalie]

I had one kitten that I trapped at the dump, she was spayed early, very
early.  She was never "the same" after thatI will continue sticking to
my 6 months for both sexes and make sure they are spayed (our cats are
strictly indoor anyway).  I have never had any problems in 18 1/2 yrs with
people NOT altering them. If I were a huge group, I would probably
spay/neuter earlier and before they were adopted. N

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Sometimes you have to take the chance and pray you are right.  I had a  
little girl spayed early..she had to stay at the vet's until she  
weighed enough and that was expensive. I think it was worth it  
though.  She has a wonderful home and will have no kittens.  She was a  
tiny feral and catching her once was very hard. Finding her a home at  
3 months (???) of age worked.  I don't know that she could have been  
caught or a home found if she had been much older.  And yes, the  
unneutered males in the area would have led Angel off to an uncertain  
future.

Copper and Thomas were done a little early because I wanted my very  
special vets in Louisville (Middletown Animal Clinic) to take care of  
them.  They weighed enough and one was thinking about spraying.  Both  
needed to be done at the same time to maintain the balance of power.   
There is two weeks or so difference in age. They did wonderfully.   
Don't ask how many times I checked on them that day...

Like I said, sometimes you have to push the calendar and trust the  
vet.  I would hate to turn a kitten/pup that was not spayed or  
neutered over to even the best home..I've watched too many people  
come up with reasons not to get the cat/dog fixed even when the bill  
was being paid and the baby transported and.always a  
reasonand more homeless animals.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM,
wrote:

> I totally agree it is the law here as well.
> Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the  
> desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not  
> list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going  
> next week with their moms to be altered.
> Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the  
> older the kitty.
> My Vets too are very experience doing these spay/neuters at young  
> ages.
> I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be  
> pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens.
> I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in  
> the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People  
> play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant  
> at that age.
> Male kittens and adults do try to go after them.
> It's nature!
>
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>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> From: Susan Hoffman 
> Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pm
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  
> In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out  
> an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern  
> California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's  
> the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so  
> quickly from their surgery.
>
> --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > From: Natalie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
> > I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
> > much later and have never had a
> > sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
> > believes that
> > neutering males so early has some possible future risks
> > that are not yet
> > known.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
> >
> > We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
> > that, and from what
> > I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
> > in dogs I can't
> > blame him.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
> > surgery (usually 16
> > > weeks)
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
> > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neu