Re: [Felvtalk] We let Bubba go.

[dlgegg]

I know that feeling all too well.  You want to keep them with you but you do 
not want to make them suffer.  That is what happens when you rescue, you know 
nothing about their past lives and illness and it makes it so hard to help 
them.  Watching Jackson Galaxy has taught me so much about my pride.  Amazing 
that many of the cat's problems can be laid at their owner's doorstep.  I 
especially remember the couple's cat that would not use the box.  They only 
cleaned the box every other week.  I have 7 boxes and I clean them twice daily. 
   One thing you know for sure, he is not suffering and is in a happier place 
now.  Thank you for caring..

 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 We did the ultrasound Friday. It showed enlarged spleen  kidneys. Vet thinks 
 spleen was probably cancerous. I was not putting him through any more. He had 
 just been laying around for 2 1/2 weeks, mostly having to be force fed. I did 
 that with my 1st FeLV  I said I would never do it again. I did it at 1st 
 because he had a URI  I knew he could get over that. But once that was gone 
 he didn't get better as far as activity  eating.
It was a really sad decision. I had had a tough time with him at first because 
he peed on everything. Thanks to some things I learned from watching Jackson 
Galaxy we got him out of that habit  he was becoming a total sweetheart. He 
just loved to walk up to you an put his head against you. 
Some hit you harder than others. This was pretty difficult. The lady who found 
him is having him cremated for me.

Thanks guys for just being there.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[dlgegg]

You can't beat yourself up over what ifs.  We have to make decisions on what we 
know.  We are not always right, but we try.  Perhaps the loose stool is from 
the stress of being bitten and will clear up soon.  I hope so.  In the meantime 
all of you are in my prayers.

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.
 
 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened. 
 
 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Margo]

Hi Lance, 

 Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess, or 
become infected?How many puncture sites did you find?

 Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of stress. Is 
Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on _your_stress concerning her, 
it might affect _her_ health. 

 Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get back to 
the previous messages, to find out.

Wishing Callie a clean bill of health,

Margo


-Original Message-
From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and 
prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean 
she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative.

Lance

On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lance
 We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means 
 you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the 
 way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -:
 
 Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
 
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.
 
 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened. 
 
 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Lance]

Hi Margo,

The bite did not abscess. I only found one small scab on her neck. It
was probably a territorial bite. I don't think Callie is close enough to
me enough of the time for her to intuit anything from my level of
stress. 

She is not on immune boosters currently. I was reluctant to do anything
like that, for fear that it might cause her immune system to
misbehave. I am considering getting her on DMG, which seems more mild
than something like Transfer Factor. I just hate to do something that
might actually make it more likely that she would be persistently
positive. Does anyone have any advice here? 

Thanks Margo, and everyone else,

Lance

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 08:55 AM, Margo wrote:
 
 
 Hi Lance, 
 
  Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess,
  or become infected?How many puncture sites did you find?
 
  Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of
  stress. Is Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on
  _your_stress concerning her, it might affect _her_ health. 
 
  Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get
  back to the previous messages, to find out.
 
 Wishing Callie a clean bill of health,
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
 Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
 
 Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and 
 prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean 
 she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Lance
  We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that 
  means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves 
  cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -:
  
  Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
  
  
  On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
  ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
  into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
  and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
  vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
  that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
  deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
  talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
  relied on.
  
  I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
  like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
  that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
  here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
  Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
  run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
  were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
  gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
  wouldn't have happened. 
  
  Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
  persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
  
  Thanks,
  
  Lance
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Margo]

Hi Lance,

   DMG was exactly what I was thinking of. I can only see it a a can't 
hurt, might help option.
   Did you witness the bite? Any chance it was claw rather than tooth? 
I know that you will worry regardless, but what you describe doesn't sound like 
a deep bite, so probably less likely to transmit the virus than an injury that 
involves deep penetration. Has Ember been tested recently?

^..^ 


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From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: Jun 25, 2013 10:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

Hi Margo,

The bite did not abscess. I only found one small scab on her neck. It
was probably a territorial bite. I don't think Callie is close enough to
me enough of the time for her to intuit anything from my level of
stress. 

She is not on immune boosters currently. I was reluctant to do anything
like that, for fear that it might cause her immune system to
misbehave. I am considering getting her on DMG, which seems more mild
than something like Transfer Factor. I just hate to do something that
might actually make it more likely that she would be persistently
positive. Does anyone have any advice here? 

Thanks Margo, and everyone else,

Lance

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 08:55 AM, Margo wrote:
 
 
 Hi Lance, 
 
  Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess,
  or become infected?How many puncture sites did you find?
 
  Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of
  stress. Is Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on
  _your_stress concerning her, it might affect _her_ health. 
 
  Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get
  back to the previous messages, to find out.
 
 Wishing Callie a clean bill of health,
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
 Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
 
 Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and 
 prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean 
 she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Lance
  We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that 
  means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves 
  cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -:
  
  Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
  
  
  On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
  ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
  into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
  and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
  vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
  that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
  deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
  talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
  relied on.
  
  I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
  like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
  that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
  here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
  Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
  run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
  were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
  gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
  wouldn't have happened. 
  
  Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
  persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
  
  Thanks,
  
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[Marcia]

Me too. I'm not trying to downplay your feelings at all. I just hate to see you 
be so hard on yourself over this. I tend to do the same and I just need someone 
to point it out. Give positive vibes, it will help her more than you being 
stressed(-:
Take care

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On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and 
 prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean 
 she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lance
 We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means 
 you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the 
 way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -:
 
 Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
 
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.
 
 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened. 
 
 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] We let Bubba go.

[Amanda K. Payne]

Beth,

I am so sorry to hear about Bubba.  He knew nothing but love and comfort in
his final days.  Thank you for all you did for him. I'm sure he'd thank you
if he could =)

Sincerely,
-Amanda


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:18 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I know that feeling all too well.  You want to keep them with you but you
 do not want to make them suffer.  That is what happens when you rescue, you
 know nothing about their past lives and illness and it makes it so hard to
 help them.  Watching Jackson Galaxy has taught me so much about my pride.
  Amazing that many of the cat's problems can be laid at their owner's
 doorstep.  I especially remember the couple's cat that would not use the
 box.  They only cleaned the box every other week.  I have 7 boxes and I
 clean them twice daily.One thing you know for sure, he is not suffering
 and is in a happier place now.  Thank you for caring..

  Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
  We did the ultrasound Friday. It showed enlarged spleen  kidneys. Vet
 thinks spleen was probably cancerous. I was not putting him through any
 more. He had just been laying around for 2 1/2 weeks, mostly having to be
 force fed. I did that with my 1st FeLV  I said I would never do it again.
 I did it at 1st because he had a URI  I knew he could get over that. But
 once that was gone he didn't get better as far as activity  eating.
 It was a really sad decision. I had had a tough time with him at first
 because he peed on everything. Thanks to some things I learned from
 watching Jackson Galaxy we got him out of that habit  he was becoming a
 total sweetheart. He just loved to walk up to you an put his head against
 you.
 Some hit you harder than others. This was pretty difficult. The lady who
 found him is having him cremated for me.

 Thanks guys for just being there.


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[Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Amanda K. Payne]

Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.
 Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed
she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.
 I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I
couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a
tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Maryam Ulomi]

Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have given 
her plenty of love and care!!!

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and 
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia 
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently, 
 her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling 
 out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really 
 worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do 
 more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Beth]

So sorry Amanda -

The heavy breathing could be the anemia getting much worse. Keeping you  Polli 
in thy thoughts.

Beth


 
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 From: Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 


Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and I'm 
not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at 
the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently, her 
breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her 
own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really worried that the 
end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us 
in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Lance]

I'll be thinking of Polli, hoping for another rebound. She's been on my
prayer list for a little while. Has she ever had a transfusion? I know
the effects aren't permanent, but it might be able to buy you some time
to see what's going on and treat that. Take care of yourself, Amanda.

Lance
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days
and I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with
severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not
completely.  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We
also noticed she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps
on her stomach.  I'm really worried that the end is near for her and
feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your
thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Lance]

The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are,
but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. 

I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks
DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a
professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the
virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so
concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to
tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't
always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. 

I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Lee Evans]

Have you had her tested yet?


 
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 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
 

The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are,
but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. 

I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks
DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a
professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the
virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so
concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to
tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't
always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. 

I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[designercats cats]

Lance, 
I know it's hard but I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Some of the 
negatives I have were really sick and in the same small kennel for months with 
sick FeLV's before I got them. Callie is also an adult so more immune to the 
virus.
DMG is really good for cats with HCM but I haven't seen any data about it being 
proven to stimulate or support immune systems. If you have Transfer Factor plus 
tri factor, I'd give that to Callie.  That really has helped all the FeLV cats 
here and also non FeLV ones that were sick.
Try not to worry too much. 
El
 
 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:50:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
 
 The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are,
 but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. 
 
 I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks
 DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a
 professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the
 virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so
 concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to
 tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't
 always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. 
 
 I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. 
 
 Lance
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Lee Evans]

Loose stools are really not a sign of a cat going FeLv+. It could be just about 
anything - from eating something different to stress to an unrelated bug that 
you brought in with you from outside. Really Lance, you can't keep a cat in a 
sterile bubble. I'm not saying that a bite from a positive cat is not serious 
but most cats who are well cared for, have enough immunity to ward off anything 
serious from a bite. In addition, Ember is not active for leukemia. She has 
tested positive. Yes, she could spread it through fighting and biting but it's 
more likely that she didn't.


 
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too!






 From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
 

Me too. I'm not trying to downplay your feelings at all. I just hate to see 
you be so hard on yourself over this. I tend to do the same and I just need 
someone to point it out. Give positive vibes, it will help her more than you 
being stressed(-:
Take care

Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:


On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and 
 prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean 
 she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lance
 We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that 
 means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves 
 cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -:
 
 Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
 
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.
 
 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened. 
 
 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Bonnie Hogue]

Amanda
You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.  Hope for the best and
appreciate your furry buddy.
Hugs
Bonnie

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Maryam Ulomi
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have
given her plenty of love and care!!!

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently,
her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling
out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really
worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do
more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[dlgegg]

You are second guessing yourself.  What if's just drive you crazy with worry 
and do not help the situation any.  Also, She can pick up on your stress and 
that can stress her out.  There is an old saying,  Let go and Let God.  That 
and continuing to give her lots of love, good food and shelter will do her more 
good than all your fretting.  Be kind to yourself please.  I have been there 
and know from experience that all the worry in the world does no good.  All it 
does is make you miserable.


 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are,
 but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. 
 
 I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks
 DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a
 professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the
 virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so
 concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to
 tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't
 always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. 
 
 I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[dlgegg]

Be kind to yourself and Polli.  Is it humid where you are?  My guys will not go 
outside now because of humidity and the buffalo gnats.  I don't go out because 
of the humidity, I cannot breathe when half of what I breathe in is water, not 
air.  Something like gnats, mosquitos could have something to do withpulling 
out hair.  Could be a reaction to itching.  Just trying to think of what has 
happened to my guys in years past.

 Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.
  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed
 she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.
  I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I
 couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a
 tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

[Margo]

We're here, Amanda.

 Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive energy and hope sent her way. Are you able to do anything for her, at this point?

 I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: "Amanda K. Payne" 

Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli. She's have a rough few days and I'm not sure she'll come out of this. She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely. Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her stomach. I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts. It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] congenital peritoneopericardial diaphragmatic hernia

[dlgegg]

HOW is Ember doing?
Is this a congenital thing?

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 My 11 year old FeLV+, Ember, was diagnosed with a congenital 
 peritoneopericardial diaphragmatic hernia after CT scans and a consult 
 between a surgeon and a radiologist. 
 
 So far, her symptoms haven't been too scary: rapid breathing (but not open 
 mouth breathing or panting) and an odd posture she sometimes assumes where 
 she will stand with her forelegs and lie down with her back legs. This 
 tells me that she might be having some discomfort (one lobe of her liver is 
 involved in the hernia). She settles into lying down without problem, and she 
 rests normally. 
 
 The symptoms have only begun in the last few months, as far as I know (Ember 
 and I weren't in the same part of the world for almost a year). We'd been 
 fearing cancer, so this would seem to be good news.
 
 The surgeon is gung-ho to take care of business, and he has an excellent 
 reputation with a lot of experience and education. However, I just spoke to 
 one of Ember's two vets about this, and he said, If she were my cat, I don't 
 think I would do it. He's concerned about moving the liver, and more 
 importantly, about the surgeon having enough to work with when the hernia is 
 likely congenital.
 
 Has anyone on the list had experience with congenital hernias in cats? I'd 
 really like to get some more input before I make a decision.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

[Sally Davis]

Lance,

I will be praying for Callie and Ember. Just remember 70 % of cats already
have a built in immunity and are able to fight off the virus. No point in
beating yourself up. I know that we all do that.

Sally


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.

 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened.

 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot.

 Thanks,

 Lance

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