Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Way. Do you use white or apple cider vinegar? I didn't know you could use that! How do you use it? (Duh.) Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On May 30, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Stray Cat Alliance wrote: I purchased Feliway, spent a lot of money, and it really didn't help. I guess one possible, albeit monetary only, comfort is -- vinegar is way cheaper! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:47:29 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Feliway to the rescue! www.RevivalAnimal.com has a great price on all Feliway stuff. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On May 29, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Pam Norman wrote: Anita, that sounds more like spraying to me a direct reaction to the newcomers. Very common. In time hopefully it will decrease. I had to deal with it too for years. My piano was ruined needs total refinishing. But that can be done at some point. I can't cuddle my piano love it feel its warmth against my back in bed on cold winter nights. Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita -- -- Create the ultimate e-mail address book. Import your contacts to Windows Live Hotmail. Try it! www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ learnmore/managemail2.html?locale=en- usocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_impcont_0507 Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join Now!
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I purchased Feliway, spent a lot of money, and it really didn't help. I guess one possible, albeit monetary only, comfort is -- vinegar is way cheaper! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:47:29 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the rescue! www.RevivalAnimal.com has a great price on all Feliway stuff. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On May 29, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Pam Norman wrote: Anita, that sounds more like spraying to me a direct reaction to the newcomers. Very common. In time hopefully it will decrease. I had to deal with it too for years. My piano was ruined needs total refinishing. But that can be done at some point. I can't cuddle my piano love it feel its warmth against my back in bed on cold winter nights. Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita Create the ultimate e-mail address book. Import your contacts to Windows Live Hotmail. Try it! www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/managemail2.html?locale=en-usocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_impcont_0507 _ Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07
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On 5/29/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, now I'm quite frightened about Best Friends. I'm going to write to my contact there about this. Melissa Melissa, I understand your fear, but I *personally* would not be concerned. That forum is on the Best Friends Network, which is provided by them as a service and is not their official stance on anything. There is a disclaimer - Content is posted freely by website members and may or may not reflect the opinions, goals, or mission of BFAS. It is largely volunteer run (I know the volunteer who edits the Texas community) and there may be a rogue moderator. Certainly I don't think it has a thing to do with how they take care of their animals. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Yes, I agree now. I was concerned last night, but now that I think about it, one person in such a large organization as BF certainly does not represent the whole; although, I think they should do their best to obtain moderators who espouse their beliefs, but it doesn't always work that way! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* This is a good point I wouldn't abandon BF just because of some moderator's comments. Altho Marion Hale has been there a LONG time. I don't know about Gina, but Marion has been there at LEAST 10 years. And NEVER been to the sanctuary! I think to be a moderator that should be mandatory! Kelley Saveika wrote: On 5/29/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, now I'm quite frightened about Best Friends. I'm going to write to my contact there about this. Melissa Melissa, I understand your fear, but I *personally* would not be concerned. That forum is on the Best Friends Network, which is provided by them as a service and is not their official stance on anything. There is a disclaimer - Content is posted freely by website members and may or may not reflect the opinions, goals, or mission of BFAS. It is largely volunteer run (I know the volunteer who edits the Texas community) and there may be a rogue moderator. Certainly I don't think it has a thing to do with how they take care of their animals.
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At 07:41 AM 5/30/2007, you wrote: Best Friends does wonderful things!!! Marion said she had attended meetings there. many people have left the forum because of Marion. I have their letters... Kelly Yes, I agree now. I was concerned last night, but now that I think about it, one person in such a large organization as BF certainly does not represent the whole; although, I think they should do their best to obtain moderators who espouse their beliefs, but it doesn't always work that way! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* This is a good point I wouldn't abandon BF just because of some moderator's comments. Altho Marion Hale has been there a LONG time. I don't know about Gina, but Marion has been there at LEAST 10 years. And NEVER been to the sanctuary! I think to be a moderator that should be mandatory! Kelley Saveika wrote: On 5/29/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, now I'm quite frightened about Best Friends. I'm going to write to my contact there about this. Melissa Melissa, I understand your fear, but I *personally* would not be concerned. That forum is on the Best Friends Network, which is provided by them as a service and is not their official stance on anything. There is a disclaimer - Content is posted freely by website members and may or may not reflect the opinions, goals, or mission of BFAS. It is largely volunteer run (I know the volunteer who edits the Texas community) and there may be a rogue moderator. Certainly I don't think it has a thing to do with how they take care of their animals. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM
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Seeing how money is the number one priority there (in my opinion), I agree. Those moderators didn't want to lose any potential funding, in my opinion. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thats horrible! I hate to hear of people putting down or giving up pets because of new wives, girlfriends, boyfriends- whatever- when I was dating it was like- no- it is a package deal- me and my furchildren- take me as I am or leave meespecially since I fought so hard to keep Satine alive. on the other side of things- my husband and I saved a kitty and she is now part of the family- I named her Carrie Bradshaw from sex and the city as she has wild full hair like the main character- she is a maine coon cat. My dogs who I was worried about, love her- they smell her butt and my tibetian terrier mix I have found kissing her. We got her from a shelter here- I suspect that whoever gave her up before we got her might have been abusive- as she shys away from getting touched in the face- and the vet said they found a broken tooth on her- but she is having a wonderful time now- she loves my husband and I tease him and say that he is mr.big- she insists on getting in his office and into his heart. He closed the office door and she put her paw under the door- and wiggles it meowing, demanding to be with him- it is very cute. Shes not satine, and I do miss satine- but it feels natural to have a kitty again ^_^ Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend killed a 17 year old cat (?) he rescued when he was in college because he had a new wife, new stepdaughter, new house + and the cat was peeing on the carpet. I went home and tore up all the carpet. The only saving grace is that Gus would not have had almost 17 years of care had my friend not rescued him. I decided then that there would not be anything on the floors that was more valuable than my 4-legged friends. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what’s different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507
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Jenna, What a wonderful tribute to Satine that you brought another kitty home to love. And what a lucky kitty! Hoping for many happy and healthy years to come with your new addition. And I'm with you...when I was single, any guy that didn't like my cats was history. Package deal, like you said. :) Wendy --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats horrible! I hate to hear of people putting down or giving up pets because of new wives, girlfriends, boyfriends- whatever- when I was dating it was like- no- it is a package deal- me and my furchildren- take me as I am or leave meespecially since I fought so hard to keep Satine alive. on the other side of things- my husband and I saved a kitty and she is now part of the family- I named her Carrie Bradshaw from sex and the city as she has wild full hair like the main character- she is a maine coon cat. My dogs who I was worried about, love her- they smell her butt and my tibetian terrier mix I have found kissing her. We got her from a shelter here- I suspect that whoever gave her up before we got her might have been abusive- as she shys away from getting touched in the face- and the vet said they found a broken tooth on her- but she is having a wonderful time now- she loves my husband and I tease him and say that he is mr.big- she insists on getting in his office and into his heart. He closed the office door and she put her paw under the door- and wiggles it meowing, demanding to be with him- it is very cute. Shes not satine, and I do miss satine- but it feels natural to have a kitty again ^_^ Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend killed a 17 year old cat (?) he rescued when he was in college because he had a new wife, new stepdaughter, new house + and the cat was peeing on the carpet. I went home and tore up all the carpet. The only saving grace is that Gus would not have had almost 17 years of care had my friend not rescued him. I decided then that there would not be anything on the floors that was more valuable than my 4-legged friends. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
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Anita, that sounds more like spraying to me a direct reaction to the newcomers. Very common. In time hopefully it will decrease. I had to deal with it too for years. My piano was ruined needs total refinishing. But that can be done at some point. I can't cuddle my piano love it feel its warmth against my back in bed on cold winter nights. Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita Create the ultimate e-mail address book. Import your contacts to Windows Live Hotmail. Try it! www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/managemail2.html?locale=en-usocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_impcont_0507
To Anita: RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See whats different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
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Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what’s different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
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I have heard Elavil works well for some. My Shimmer is on the highest allowable dose and pees on everything anyway. On 5/29/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what's different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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I've also know some folks use Valium. One source on the internet praised Prosac. I don't know much about it from personal experience. Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I have heard Elavil works well for some. My Shimmer is on the highest allowable dose and pees on everything anyway. On 5/29/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what's different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ _ _ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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And also Prozac and Buspar Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also know some folks use Valium. One source on the internet praised Prosac. I don't know much about it from personal experience. Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I have heard Elavil works well for some. My Shimmer is on the highest allowable dose and pees on everything anyway. On 5/29/07, Gloria Lane wrote: Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what's different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ _ _ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Hi All, I haven't been able to respond lately since I've been super busy, but I had to read this pee thread--it hits close to home. Our Bandit started peeing in the heat vent--only one vent--for no apparent reason. We tried every natural remedy we could think of to change the behavior. While I agree that they are doing it on purpose much of the time, I also think that it results from anxiety oftentimes, not a sense of vengeance or naughtiness or vindictiveness. Our vet suggested Prozac (fluoxitine). For $6.00 a month, Bandit receives a half a pill a day, and I'm not kidding--overnight he stopped peeing in the vent (or on the plastic covering the vent). I swear by this stuff. It didn't change his attitude or anything that I can tell--only his reactions to stress. Our vet said we may not ever know what was stressing him out, but at least now Bandit is back to his old self. Our vet said that not many people would have kept a cat like him (most would put him to sleep). That just horrified me. Then I used some of Bandit's Prozac on Cassidy (the FeLV+ who just went to Best Friends) to stop his incessant howling at night. He was so sad--crying all night long--after the Prozac he stopped crying immediately, but it didn't change his behavior in other ways. He still talked and snuggled and was just as fun as before. So, I strongly recommend the Prozac, but I'm not a doctor, and I'm not as experienced as half of you on this list, but that is my experience so far. However, now I'm quite frightened about Best Friends. I'm going to write to my contact there about this. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Anita: RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* I've also know some folks use Valium. One source on the internet praised Prosac. I don't know much about it from personal experience. Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I have heard Elavil works well for some. My Shimmer is on the highest allowable dose and pees on everything anyway. On 5/29/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what's different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ _ _ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Good, I'm glad you are going to write. Pam Melissa Lind wrote: Hi All, I haven't been able to respond lately since I've been super busy, but I had to read this pee thread--it hits close to home. Our Bandit started peeing in the heat vent--only one vent--for no apparent reason. We tried every natural remedy we could think of to change the behavior. While I agree that they are doing it on purpose much of the time, I also think that it results from anxiety oftentimes, not a sense of vengeance or naughtiness or vindictiveness. Our vet suggested Prozac (fluoxitine). For $6.00 a month, Bandit receives a half a pill a day, and I'm not kidding--overnight he stopped peeing in the vent (or on the plastic covering the vent). I swear by this stuff. It didn't change his attitude or anything that I can tell--only his reactions to stress. Our vet said we may not ever know what was stressing him out, but at least now Bandit is back to his old self. Our vet said that not many people would have kept a cat like him (most would put him to sleep). That just horrified me. Then I used some of Bandit's Prozac on Cassidy (the FeLV+ who just went to Best Friends) to stop his incessant howling at night. He was so sad--crying all night long--after the Prozac he stopped crying immediately, but it didn't change his behavior in other ways. He still talked and snuggled and was just as fun as before. So, I strongly recommend the Prozac, but I'm not a doctor, and I'm not as experienced as half of you on this list, but that is my experience so far. However, now I'm quite frightened about Best Friends. I'm going to write to my contact there about this. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Anita: RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* I've also know some folks use Valium. One source on the internet praised Prosac. I don't know much about it from personal experience. Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I have heard Elavil works well for some. My Shimmer is on the highest allowable dose and pees on everything anyway. On 5/29/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some in our group have had great luck using Elavil for cats that pee inappropriately. I think the way it was done, was to give it orally (or use ear cream) for 2 weeks, then gradually reduce it (like every other day) until the behavior showed up again, then administer as appropriate (weekly, daily, every two days, etc). Gloria On May 29, 2007, at 10:08 AM, wendy wrote: Anita, Maybe changing his name would help...lol. ;) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what's different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en- usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ _ _ __Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
At 07:09 AM 5/29/2007, you wrote: Congratulation on your new family member and to the wonderful; butt sniffing dogs who have made her welcome,,yeah!!! Kelly Thats horrible! I hate to hear of people putting down or giving up pets because of new wives, girlfriends, boyfriends- whatever- when I was dating it was like- no- it is a package deal- me and my furchildren- take me as I am or leave meespecially since I fought so hard to keep Satine alive. on the other side of things- my husband and I saved a kitty and she is now part of the family- I named her Carrie Bradshaw from sex and the city as she has wild full hair like the main character- she is a maine coon cat. My dogs who I was worried about, love her- they smell her butt and my tibetian terrier mix I have found kissing her. We got her from a shelter here- I suspect that whoever gave her up before we got her might have been abusive- as she shys away from getting touched in the face- and the vet said they found a broken tooth on her- but she is having a wonderful time now- she loves my husband and I tease him and say that he is mr.big- she insists on getting in his office and into his heart. He closed the office door and she put her paw under the door- and wiggles it meowing, demanding to be with him- it is very cute. Shes not satine, and I do miss satine- but it feels natural to have a kitty again ^_^ Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend killed a 17 year old cat (?) he rescued when he was in college because he had a new wife, new stepdaughter, new house + and the cat was peeing on the carpet. I went home and tore up all the carpet. The only saving grace is that Gus would not have had almost 17 years of care had my friend not rescued him. I decided then that there would not be anything on the floors that was more valuable than my 4-legged friends. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48251/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/?p=PASSPORTPLUSall the tools to get online. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Well that just wiped the smile from my face. I was not privy to the exchange and have never been to any of the Best Friends forums, but I'm assuming that their motive in removing any chastising responses was in keeping with an overall effort to maintain the site as a safe place to express grief, no matter where the blame of that grief may lie. I am by no means condoning or advocating humans deciding to pts cats because of litterbox avoidance, it turns my stomach, the same as it does yours. I am just pointing out that perhaps the moderators did not feel that this was the proper venue for attempting to educate someone that is suffering from their lack of judgement and compassion. My head too is bloody from banging it against the brick walls of those I do my best to educate. I know how frustrating and emotionally devastating it can be. The only way I can continue to reach out to those that, (in my eyes), visit atrocities on the helpless is that I know sometimes I do get through, sometimes I do make a difference. Even though they sometimes fall short of our expectations, Best Friends is a worthy organization that does make a difference. I hope that when the heat of your disappointment dissipates you are able to remain an ally to the organization. Nina Kelly L wrote: At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
A friend killed a 17 year old cat (?) he rescued when he was in college because he had a new wife, new stepdaughter, new house + and the cat was peeing on the carpet. I went home and tore up all the carpet. The only saving grace is that Gus would not have had almost 17 years of care had my friend not rescued him. I decided then that there would not be anything on the floors that was more valuable than my 4-legged friends. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Killing cats who pee on RUGS* At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
At 01:51 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: Sorry Nina, I am not that generous right now. I do understand your point and I am usually calm and quitely willing to educate..But there was no attempt at educating..This has unfortunately not been the first issue and as I said i guess I am more in tune with the likes of Sea Shepherd...I can't stand by and not voice my displeasure, Someone needed to speak up for the doomed cat, There were many many people there suffering from the loss of an animal due to disease, Theri feelings needed to be considered. There are many wonderful animal groups that can benefit from the tiny extra I have to contribute. Best FIriends does wonderful things,,,I know. But when I can't agree with many of theirpolicies it is best i continue on my own, There are so many in need out there, Kelly Well that just wiped the smile from my face. I was not privy to the exchange and have never been to any of the Best Friends forums, but I'm assuming that their motive in removing any chastising responses was in keeping with an overall effort to maintain the site as a safe place to express grief, no matter where the blame of that grief may lie. I am by no means condoning or advocating humans deciding to pts cats because of litterbox avoidance, it turns my stomach, the same as it does yours. I am just pointing out that perhaps the moderators did not feel that this was the proper venue for attempting to educate someone that is suffering from their lack of judgement and compassion. My head too is bloody from banging it against the brick walls of those I do my best to educate. I know how frustrating and emotionally devastating it can be. The only way I can continue to reach out to those that, (in my eyes), visit atrocities on the helpless is that I know sometimes I do get through, sometimes I do make a difference. Even though they sometimes fall short of our expectations, Best Friends is a worthy organization that does make a difference. I hope that when the heat of your disappointment dissipates you are able to remain an ally to the organization. Nina Kelly L wrote: At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Boy, do I agree with you! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 28, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course. (lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Those moderators didn't want to lose any potential funding, in my opinion. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 28, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Nina wrote: Well that just wiped the smile from my face. I was not privy to the exchange and have never been to any of the Best Friends forums, but I'm assuming that their motive in removing any chastising responses was in keeping with an overall effort to maintain the site as a safe place to express grief, no matter where the blame of that grief may lie. I am by no means condoning or advocating humans deciding to pts cats because of litterbox avoidance, it turns my stomach, the same as it does yours. I am just pointing out that perhaps the moderators did not feel that this was the proper venue for attempting to educate someone that is suffering from their lack of judgement and compassion. My head too is bloody from banging it against the brick walls of those I do my best to educate. I know how frustrating and emotionally devastating it can be. The only way I can continue to reach out to those that, (in my eyes), visit atrocities on the helpless is that I know sometimes I do get through, sometimes I do make a difference. Even though they sometimes fall short of our expectations, Best Friends is a worthy organization that does make a difference. I hope that when the heat of your disappointment dissipates you are able to remain an ally to the organization. Nina Kelly L wrote: At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years. they have grown which is good. Well on their prayers and healing forum someone posted asking for prayers and support for their co worker because they were sad at deciding to have their cat PTS ,,killed because she keeps peeing on the carpet,.. I replied that I could not give support to such an act and then other members agreed...our posts were pulled and only the ones comforting this person were left, i received another demeaning letter from the moderator,,, this is not the first incident of that kind, but this one was the final STraw Best Friends does wonderful things, but I am no longer comfortable with may of theri policies at this time, Now I better go mop up pee ...after I get my shoes on of course.(lol) Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again. Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the frying pan overnight and I wound up pouring cat pee all over the clean dishes in the drainer. One more morning like this and I'm going to make myself a cup of strong coffee before anyone gets a morsel of food. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
