Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

I used to take our parakeet into a nice, steamy bathroom when he had  
a cold (pretty unusual).  Keetie sneezes are so funny--they're so  
tiny!  If they're sitting on your shoulder you can feel the tiniest  
sneeze ever on your cheek!


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 8, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


I use nebulizers (not vaporizers) with medicine in them..not water...I
have heard some people take cats into the bathroom with them when they
shower, too.

Here's the nebulizer I made (well, I didn't make the one in the pic,
but one very similar).

http://catnipkids.homestead.com/nebulizer.html

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would go with zikthromax.  Clavamox and amoxicillin are just not  
strong
enough alone for stubborn problems.  And the only time I use a  
vaporizer is
when there is a lot of congestion and the cat is having a lot of  
problems
breathing.  Never heard of the vinegar before and it sounds pretty  
foul to
me.  (I hate the smell of vinegar.)  I have used Vick's for  
vaporizers but
just for a little bit at a time.  I have heard it is not good for  
cats but
in an emergency when you want to get nasal passages opened up, I  
go for it.
But if he's eating well, it sounds like he can smell and breath so  
I think I

would just do zithromax in this case.

Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Question about URI's since you are good with them...I
have a 6-7 month old boy in my basement I am trying to
nurse with a URI. He is on Clavimox/Amoxicilin I
think that is what it is called...it is a liquid...I
am also running a vaporizer for him 24 hours around
the clock. I did have vinegar in the water but my
boyfriend thought that was too much for him so last
night I put just plain water. I can't tell if he is
sounding any better. He has this awful cough that
keeps lingering on. He has only been on medicine
since Sat. night. I know some cats it takes longer to
break the URI, but should I be worried that this cough
is still lingering? He is eating like a piggy and is
purring and appears to be acting well. He does not
have any discharge anymore, but again, that cough just
won't go away...any ideas? Have you ever heard of
using vinegar with a vaporizer? Should I put it back
in? He is negative so far for FeLV by the way...
Thanks,
Sheryl


--- Susan Hoffman wrote:

> Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've
> dealt with some really nasty shelter uris but have
> never lost anyone to it. I usually do zithromax and
> clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline
> formula to boost nutrition, pedialyte to maintain
> hydration and electrolyte balance. So tell me what
> symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm
> pretty good with uris.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote: It is

> for URI. I have lost several already.
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really
> effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just
> hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will
> try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of
> hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you
> need it right away, I would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how
> much for the prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15
> cheaper than any of the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill
> another one awhile later it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the
> receipt to prove they sold it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get
> the price and the persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a
> prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - rabies vac

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

I don't vaccinate my cats for rabies.  My former vet (he retired but  
shows up when someone is on vacation), who I love dearly, said one  
day about ten years ago, "We'll both know when there is some sort of  
rabies outbreak occurs so don't worry about it."


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On May 8, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Nina wrote:

Accidental over-vaccination for rabies is what caused my Gypsy's  
IBD.  We almost lost her and to this day battle the consequences.   
Grab the vets by the shirt collar, look them in the eye and make  
sure they hear you when you tell them they have already been  
vaccinated!

Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

Often when I take my cats to the free s/n place they vaccinate them
*even when* i provide proof.

On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are  
mandatory--and
even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as  
if they
are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years  
won't treat

anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.

in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages  
said that

dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.

(but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual  
rabies than

some others, too)

MC

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Oh, probably 15 years ago I took my big boy Boots (in Heaven) to our  
vet and we got into a discussion about rabies.  The doctor said,

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On May 8, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


My veterinarian told me it was against the law to have animals not
vaccinated against rabies.  I tend to believe him since it is his
license on the line, and I've never looked up the state code.  I just
tried to look it up, see if this is it.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/health/zoonosis/laws/vaccine/


I think we are going to get to where we specialize in tiny kittens.  I
am really, really interested in finding out more about treating them
as *everyone* i know around here says 30%+ mortality rate is common.
Even my vet keeps telling me to not beat myself up too much.  Heck,
one of them died AT the vet and they could not determine anything
wrong.  She just died.

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Who told you it is the law?  What state/county are you in?  In  
California,
different counties have different requirements re rabies  
vaccinations but
all those counties that do require a vaccine will allow a vet to  
temporarily
waive the requirement for sound medical reasons.  If the law is  
different
where you are, could you give me the citation, whether it is state  
code or

local regulation.  I'd like to take a look.

I rarely do tiny kittens, and almost never have bottle babies.   
(Though I
have a great foster who loves to take on the little ones and also  
has no

real mortality rate.)  I've had some very sick 2 or 3 month olds from
shelters, as well as adults, but I rarely have anyone under 6  
weeks. (Never

mind the 4 week old in my bathroom. It was an emergency.)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It isn't panleuk, then. I have not brought anyone new in 2 weeks.
Just pray the rest of them live. They seem so much better after the
zithro.

I can't believe you have never lost anyone to shelter URI. I have
much to learn from you. I lost 1 per litter last year.

They didn't vaccinate her while she was nursing. She was in late
stage pregnancy.

They WILL vaccinate nursing moms, and have. It is the law. I am
lucky my vet will see my Missy without forcing me to vaccinate her
against rabies.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Panleuk will kill within 7-10 days tops.
>
> If the shelter vaccinated the momcat while she was nursing, that  
can

explain
> a lot. That can hamper milk production and bring on a uri that  
was dormant

> before.
>
> I usually go straight to zith when dealing with shelter uris,  
maybe zith

and
> clavamox if it's really severe.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. They have been
> treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.
>
> They look SOOO much better today.
>
> The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
> isolating. Then they got large enough to want to explore, while  
still

> being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb. That's
> how *they* got it.
>
> Little Muffin's eye looks bad. I hope she'll be ok.
>
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more  
with rapid
> > decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me  
more like

> the
> > boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with  
kitties

(whom
> i
> > think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her  
vet asked!

> hee
> > hee)
> >
> > MC
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> > >
> > > They say they bleach clean cages.
> > >
> > > I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up.  
If a
> > > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they  
were ever
> > > from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner  
surrenders, who

> > > can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> > > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter,  
and there

> > > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> > > singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I  
really

> > > wouldn't blame them.
> > >
> > > My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what  
I want
> > > them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if  
some
> > > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6  
weeks/1

> > > lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I
> > > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> > >
> > > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the  
shelter by her

> > > family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> > > without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if  
she ever

> > > saw a vet before the shelter.
> > >
> > > I named her Faith
> > >
> > > Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper  
shot,

> > > combo test, Revolution.
> > >
> > > I haven

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Kelley Saveika]

Yall are lucky in that respect.  For me it is a much bigger risk to
leave them unprotected for heartworms.  Awareness is ok around
here..we even have a billbord on I-35 - "One heartworm can kill your
cat."  Treatment isn't anywhere naer as good as it is in dogs.

So many times I find it is a matter of picking which option is less
dangerous.  Which I hate, but what can you do

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I'm in Vermont, we don't have mosquitoes very much here, certainly not in
the house! No risk here.

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

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I'm in Vermont, we don't have mosquitoes very much here, certainly not in
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[MaryChristine]

some of live in places where heartworms haven't discovered cats yet..
or, at least, where vets don't think they have.

On 5/13/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I use Revolution for heartworms.  How do yall prevent heartworms w/out
Revolution?  Are there other ways?

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>
> Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like
dogs,
> and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant
type
> fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases.
>
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Kelley Saveika]

I use Revolution for heartworms.  How do yall prevent heartworms w/out
Revolution?  Are there other ways?

On 5/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like dogs,
and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant type
fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases.

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

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Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like dogs,
and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant type
fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases.

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[PEC2851]

 
In a message dated 5/12/07 3:01:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  
writes:

All pesticides are toxic poisons,  something people tend to forget! That's 
why I do my best to avoid using them,  and I use a flea shampoo first, as it 
rinses off. Like I said, if it has  numerous warnings 


So true...
And, I always tended to avoid using them, bathing dogs, etc., but now,  since 
MVA it's not possible for me to get my dogs in tub (Especially, my  
Rottie.  But I can't even lift my "small" [approx. 45 lbs.] dog into  tub!!)
And, when I [finally] got home from hosp., I had a SEVERE flea epidemic!!!  
(Rainy spring...)
Needless to say, dogs had to go out, all my cats are indoor only,  but, well, 
fleas are monsters!!!
And, bathing some of my cats [now] is next to impossible.  Any  suggestions???
And, guess what?  Another rainy spring, fleas are  starting...
I guess I could hose down & bathe the K-9's prior to bringing  them in. 
But, they only go out for walks, not chained outside or  anything, but those 
dern fleas are quick
What to do, what to do..
Hugs,
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

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All pesticides are toxic poisons, something people tend to forget! That's
why I do my best to avoid using them, and I use a flea shampoo first, as it
rinses off. Like I said, if it has numerous warnings on it to wash your
hands after contact... do you REALLY want to POUR it over your cat's skin
(and leave it there)?!

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Leslie Lawther]

*I had a similar situation with Frontline.  Threw my boy Alex into liver
failure.  When the vet looked at his CBC he looked baffled and all he could
say was "This is a train wreck!" -  He explained that all he could do is
start with the most important organs and work his way up.  Thought we would
lose Alex too... I'm very careful with Frontline... never had trouble with
Advantage though.*

*Leslie =^..^=*



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 I almost lost one of my cats using Advantage,,
She was 3 years old & went into a "semi-coma" Was hospitalized for
over 3 weeks.
Still never found out "why".  Thought I would lose her.  I was frantic,
didn't know just what the problem was
Thank heavens she finally came around -after a really long time.
I will *NEVER *use it again!
Now use Frontline - NO problems  at all...
Still can't figure what the problem was. Either could vet.
Just my personal experience
Hugs,
Patti & her flea free gang




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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[PEC2851]

I almost lost one of my cats using Advantage,,
She was 3 years old & went into a "semi-coma" Was hospitalized for  over 
3 weeks.
Still never found out "why".  Thought I would lose her.  I was  frantic, 
didn't know just what the problem was
Thank heavens she finally came around -after a really long time.
I will NEVER use it again!
Now use Frontline - NO problems  at all...
Still can't figure what the problem was. Either could  vet.
Just my personal experience
Hugs,
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[MaryChristine]

before the advent of topicals, i used to use the zodiac line of premises
spray all over the house--kills eggs and larva for 210 days.. you still
have to do some spot killing in really bad years, but it REALLY helps if
you're bringing in strangers.

On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 That's the problem, the warning is buried in two pages of TINY text in
the package insert. Not even the vets bother to read it:
http://www.revolution4cats.com/docs/pdf/FullInfill.pdf

My favorite flea product is a shampoo by Zodiac called fleatrol. It's a
shampoo, and it kills fleas and ticks while on the pet, but it doesn't
absorb into their skin like flea repellants do, so when you rinse it off,
all the toxic chemicals are GONE. That being said, the label still reads
"not for use on sick, weak, or debilitated animals or those under 12 weeks
of age. There are new "natural" flea shampoos out there that may be better
for weak or young cats/kittens. I use this Zodiac flea shampoo on MYSELF
after hiking to kill any ticks I may have picked up on the trail. I feel
safe using it on my cats because I use it on myself too. Anything that has
bold text warnings that say "wear gloves when applying, and wash thoroughly
if contact with skin occurs" are NOT GOOD, because this is stuff you plan to
put on your PET'S skin, and LEAVE on there! I mean, think about it, like -
DUH! It's the whole double standard we have for humanity verses everything
else, what's good for them isn't necessarily what's good for US too. After
all, they are JUST animals. (rolling eyes)

I'm going to see what I can turn up for use on younger kittens and cats
under 2 LBS.

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

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That's the problem, the warning is buried in two pages of TINY text in the
package insert. Not even the vets bother to read it:
http://www.revolution4cats.com/docs/pdf/FullInfill.pdf

My favorite flea product is a shampoo by Zodiac called fleatrol. It's a
shampoo, and it kills fleas and ticks while on the pet, but it doesn't
absorb into their skin like flea repellants do, so when you rinse it off,
all the toxic chemicals are GONE. That being said, the label still reads
"not for use on sick, weak, or debilitated animals or those under 12 weeks
of age. There are new "natural" flea shampoos out there that may be better
for weak or young cats/kittens. I use this Zodiac flea shampoo on MYSELF
after hiking to kill any ticks I may have picked up on the trail. I feel
safe using it on my cats because I use it on myself too. Anything that has
bold text warnings that say "wear gloves when applying, and wash thoroughly
if contact with skin occurs" are NOT GOOD, because this is stuff you plan to
put on your PET'S skin, and LEAVE on there! I mean, think about it, like -
DUH! It's the whole double standard we have for humanity verses everything
else, what's good for them isn't necessarily what's good for US too. After
all, they are JUST animals. (rolling eyes)

I'm going to see what I can turn up for use on younger kittens and cats
under 2 LBS.

Phaewryn

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Which litter?  I think the oldest are as old as 8, maybe 9 weeks even.
The youngest were born on Easter, which would make them a bit over 4
weeks.

No more in my huose for a while, but I was so
happy to get a new foster today.   We were able to rescue a singed
kitten found in someone's car engine.

On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


2 lbs does seem large.. I think other products might be able to be used
before then. How old are they now? I know you've said it like 50 times, but
I'm such a black hole. :-)

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

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2 lbs does seem large.. I think other products might be able to be used
before then. How old are they now? I know you've said it like 50 times, but
I'm such a black hole. :-)

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

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That is EXACTLY the attitude you NEED to have! At least you gave them a
CHANCE! I agree with your vet.

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Susan Hoffman]

Zithromax is considered safe for pregnant and nursing moms.  I googled it once 
upon a time and found the information (breeder related but it may be on the 
manufacturer's packaging.)  ust google it and you'll find it.  Your vet is 
definitely wrong on this one.
   
  I have also used Advantage on tiny kittens.  I just do a dab on my fingertip 
and touch to the back of the kitten's neck.  I've never had an adverse reaction 
but you can always wash them off if you get nervous.  I reserve Revolution of 
those over 4 months

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I know, Nina. I'm not good at making these decisions. Why can't they
be 2 lb already, g.

On 5/9/07, Nina wrote:
> Kelley,
> This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem. If
> your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more
> problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that
> kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers). I know these
> guys have serious URI symptoms. You are there, you would know better
> than me if it's worth it, or not. I just wanted to mention that I have
> applied the tiniest amount of advantage to healthy kittens as young as 3
> weeks old. I put a drop of advantage on the end of a qtip and then
> apply that to the kitten. The next day, no more fleas. I wouldn't use
> revolution because of what happened to Kerry's kitty, (as Phaewryn just
> reminded us).
> Nina
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats.
> > Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember. My poor nursing
> > mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done.
> >
> > I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and
> > bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick.
> >
> > So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me
> > to give capstar at less than 2 lb. 2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me
> > now.
> >
> > On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's
> >> totally
> >> NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or
> >> kittens.
> >> We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
> >> changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that
> >> warning (it's
> >> called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just
> >> wanted
> >> to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the
> >> shelter.
> >> I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK.
> >>
> >>
> >> Phaewryn
> >>
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> >> Special Needs Cat Resources
> >>
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Kelley Saveika]

I know, Nina. I'm not good at making these decisions.  Why can't they
be 2 lb already, g.

On 5/9/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kelley,
This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem.  If
your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more
problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that
kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers).  I know these
guys have serious URI symptoms.  You are there, you would know better
than me if it's worth it, or not.  I just wanted to mention that I have
applied the tiniest amount of advantage to healthy kittens as young as 3
weeks old.  I put a drop of advantage on the end of a qtip and then
apply that to the kitten.  The next day, no more fleas.  I wouldn't use
revolution because of what happened to Kerry's kitty, (as Phaewryn just
reminded us).
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats.
> Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember.   My poor nursing
> mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done.
>
> I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and
> bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick.
>
> So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me
> to give capstar at less than 2 lb.  2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me
> now.
>
> On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's
>> totally
>> NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or
>> kittens.
>> We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
>> changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that
>> warning (it's
>> called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just
>> wanted
>> to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the
>> shelter.
>> I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK.
>>
>>
>> Phaewryn
>>
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>>
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>
>






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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas

[Nina]

Kelley,
This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem.  If 
your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more 
problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that 
kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers).  I know these 
guys have serious URI symptoms.  You are there, you would know better 
than me if it's worth it, or not.  I just wanted to mention that I have 
applied the tiniest amount of advantage to healthy kittens as young as 3 
weeks old.  I put a drop of advantage on the end of a qtip and then 
apply that to the kitten.  The next day, no more fleas.  I wouldn't use 
revolution because of what happened to Kerry's kitty, (as Phaewryn just 
reminded us).

Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember.   My poor nursing
mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done.

I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and
bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick.

So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me
to give capstar at less than 2 lb.  2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me
now.

On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's 
totally
NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or 
kittens.

We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that 
warning (it's
called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just 
wanted
to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the 
shelter.

I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK.


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Sheryl Spagg]

This totally makes sense because the 6 month old kitty
I have who is fighting a URI was also given Revolution
after he was neutered last Friday.  He has since lost
some hair and has redness on the sides of him.  I plan
to call MY vet today to ask about them because I want
to make sure they won't get any worse...why do vets
use it on young weak kitties if they know it isn't
good?  It wasn't my vet who gave it...it was the vet
who preformed the neuter on a sick kitty...not sure
why any of the stuff was done to him that was because
not only is he underweight but he also has a URI that
is now worse because he was put under for the
neuter...doesn't make sense to me...thank heavens it
isn't my vet!!!


--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few
> years back, it's totally
> NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or
> debilitated cats or kittens.
> We were even successful at having the
> internationally distributed label
> changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label
> said that warning (it's
> called a different brand overseas - but it's the
> same product). Just wanted
> to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat
> with it at the shelter.
> I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the
> label says it's OK.
> 
> 
> Phaewryn
> 
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember.   My poor nursing
mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done.

I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and
bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick.

So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me
to give capstar at less than 2 lb.  2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me
now.

On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's totally
NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or kittens.
We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that warning (it's
called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just wanted
to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the shelter.
I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK.


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

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Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's totally
NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or kittens.
We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that warning (it's
called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just wanted
to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the shelter.
I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK.


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Phaewryn,

I don't know.  He did tell me we could run a bunch of tests, but that
he wouldn't.  He would treat for the symptoms, and he also constantly
tells me not to beat myself up too much.

I could spend hundreds of dollars trying to figure out what is wrong
with a 3 week old kitten, or I could get a lot of cats altered and
vaccinated for the same amount.   Rescue sucks sometimes.

P.S.  If this were my only kitten, I would have tests done no matter
how much it cost.  But is is more like my 25th kitten.  So far this
year.

I have JUST ABOUT made my peace with "there is no one else wiling to
take these tiny kittens and at least you are giving them a chance."

It is either that, or lose my mind.

On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Certainly there is some way to know WHICH virus it is other than necropsies?
Some sort of DNA test maybe - that you could do on a live cat with a blood
sample?

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

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Certainly there is some way to know WHICH virus it is other than necropsies?
Some sort of DNA test maybe - that you could do on a live cat with a blood
sample?

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Ok, all kittens seem MUCH better.  I have an adult that refuses to be
syringe fed - she vomits it back up..so I drop bits of food in her
mouth "baby bird" style and she eats them..that zithro is a miracle
cure, I swear.

I really could use your help with a treatment protocol for tinies..I
do not want to lose anymore..most that I lost were asymptomatic...but
my precious little snowshoe was really sick and I have to wonder if
she could have been saved if I could have gotten zithromax sooner..

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hmmm.  But RULE §169.29 specifically excludes shelters...I wonder why

I'm at work right now but let me do some research later and see what I can
find.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I posted the link to what as far as I can tell is the full body of the law.

It says nothing about exceptions for medical conditions. If you can
find something please let me know.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/health/zoonosis/laws/vaccine/

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> What law did you read. (Did I miss an email with a citation?)
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> I did not see anything like that in the law I read. If you see
> something, please let me know.
>
> On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > That's why I was asking specifically where. Sometimes you just have to
> walk
> > in with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the
> law
> > says they have discretion for certain medical conditions.
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > > there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
> > mandatory--and
> > > even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if
> they
> > > are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
> > treat
> > > anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
> > >
> > > in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said
that
> > > dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
> > >
> > > (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies
> than
> > > some others, too)
> > >
> > > MC
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> > >
> > > MaryChristine
> > >
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> >
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Hmmm.  But RULE §169.29 specifically excludes shelters...I wonder why
   
  I'm at work right now but let me do some research later and see what I can 
find.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I posted the link to what as far as I can tell is the full body of the law.

It says nothing about exceptions for medical conditions. If you can
find something please let me know.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/health/zoonosis/laws/vaccine/

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> What law did you read. (Did I miss an email with a citation?)
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> I did not see anything like that in the law I read. If you see
> something, please let me know.
>
> On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > That's why I was asking specifically where. Sometimes you just have to
> walk
> > in with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the
> law
> > says they have discretion for certain medical conditions.
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > > there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
> > mandatory--and
> > > even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if
> they
> > > are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
> > treat
> > > anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
> > >
> > > in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
> > > dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
> > >
> > > (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies
> than
> > > some others, too)
> > >
> > > MC
> > >
> > > --
> > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> > >
> > > MaryChristine
> > >
> > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ICQ: 289856892
> >
> >
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I posted the link to what as far as I can tell is the full body of the law.

It says nothing about exceptions for medical conditions.  If you can
find something please let me know.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/health/zoonosis/laws/vaccine/

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What law did you read.  (Did I miss an email with a citation?)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I did not see anything like that in the law I read. If you see
something, please let me know.

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> That's why I was asking specifically where. Sometimes you just have to
walk
> in with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the
law
> says they have discretion for certain medical conditions.
>
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
> mandatory--and
> > even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if
they
> > are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
> treat
> > anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
> >
> > in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
> > dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
> >
> > (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies
than
> > some others, too)
> >
> > MC
> >
> > --
> > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> > Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> >
> > MaryChristine
> >
> > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ: 289856892
>
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

What law did you read.  (Did I miss an email with a citation?)  

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I did not see anything like that in 
the law I read. If you see
something, please let me know.

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> That's why I was asking specifically where. Sometimes you just have to walk
> in with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the law
> says they have discretion for certain medical conditions.
>
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
> mandatory--and
> > even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if they
> > are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
> treat
> > anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
> >
> > in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
> > dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
> >
> > (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies than
> > some others, too)
> >
> > MC
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
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> > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ: 289856892
>
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I did not see anything like that in the law I read.  If you see
something, please let me know.

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That's why I was asking specifically where.  Sometimes you just have to walk
in with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the law
says they have discretion for certain medical conditions.


On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
mandatory--and
> even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if they
> are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
treat
> anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
>
> in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
> dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
>
> (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies than
> some others, too)
>
> MC
>
> --
> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> Maybe That'll Make The Difference
>
> MaryChristine
>
> AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 289856892


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

That's why I was asking specifically where.  Sometimes you just have to walk in 
with the relevant code section or regulation and show them where the law says 
they have discretion for certain medical conditions.

On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are mandatory--and
> even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if they
> are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't treat
> anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
>
> in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
> dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
>
> (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies than
> some others, too)
>
> MC
>
> --
> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> Maybe That'll Make The Difference
>
> MaryChristine
>
> AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 289856892


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - rabies vac

[Kelley Saveika]

I take the paper and the metal tag in, and 50% of the time they give
me another paper and another metal tag when I come to get them out
*argh*.



On 5/8/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Accidental over-vaccination for rabies is what caused my Gypsy's IBD.
We almost lost her and to this day battle the consequences.  Grab the
vets by the shirt collar, look them in the eye and make sure they hear
you when you tell them they have already been vaccinated!
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Often when I take my cats to the free s/n place they vaccinate them
> *even when* i provide proof.
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are
>> mandatory--and
>> even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if
>> they
>> are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't
>> treat
>> anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.
>>
>> in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
>> dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.
>>
>> (but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies
>> than
>> some others, too)
>>
>> MC
>>
>> --
>> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
>> Maybe That'll Make The Difference
>>
>> MaryChristine
>>
>> AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ICQ: 289856892
>
>






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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - rabies vac

[Nina]

Accidental over-vaccination for rabies is what caused my Gypsy's IBD.  
We almost lost her and to this day battle the consequences.  Grab the 
vets by the shirt collar, look them in the eye and make sure they hear 
you when you tell them they have already been vaccinated!

Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

Often when I take my cats to the free s/n place they vaccinate them
*even when* i provide proof.

On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are 
mandatory--and
even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if 
they
are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't 
treat

anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.

in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.

(but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies 
than

some others, too)

MC

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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Often when I take my cats to the free s/n place they vaccinate them
*even when* i provide proof.

On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

there's lots of places, susan, where rabies vaccinations are mandatory--and
even where strictly they're not, more and more vets are acting as if they
are. even one of mine that i've been working with for years won't treat
anyone without PROOF of rabies vaccination.

in certain states--and i think texas is one--all the s/n pages said that
dogs and cats WOULD be vaccinated if proof wasn't supplied.

(but southern states tended, in the past, to have more actual rabies than
some others, too)

MC

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MaryChristine

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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892



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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

My veterinarian told me it was against the law to have animals not
vaccinated against rabies.  I tend to believe him since it is his
license on the line, and I've never looked up the state code.  I just
tried to look it up, see if this is it.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/health/zoonosis/laws/vaccine/


I think we are going to get to where we specialize in tiny kittens.  I
am really, really interested in finding out more about treating them
as *everyone* i know around here says 30%+ mortality rate is common.
Even my vet keeps telling me to not beat myself up too much.  Heck,
one of them died AT the vet and they could not determine anything
wrong.  She just died.

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Who told you it is the law?  What state/county are you in?  In California,
different counties have different requirements re rabies vaccinations but
all those counties that do require a vaccine will allow a vet to temporarily
waive the requirement for sound medical reasons.  If the law is different
where you are, could you give me the citation, whether it is state code or
local regulation.  I'd like to take a look.

I rarely do tiny kittens, and almost never have bottle babies.  (Though I
have a great foster who loves to take on the little ones and also has no
real mortality rate.)  I've had some very sick 2 or 3 month olds from
shelters, as well as adults, but I rarely have anyone under 6 weeks. (Never
mind the 4 week old in my bathroom. It was an emergency.)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It isn't panleuk, then. I have not brought anyone new in 2 weeks.
Just pray the rest of them live. They seem so much better after the
zithro.

I can't believe you have never lost anyone to shelter URI. I have
much to learn from you. I lost 1 per litter last year.

They didn't vaccinate her while she was nursing. She was in late
stage pregnancy.

They WILL vaccinate nursing moms, and have. It is the law. I am
lucky my vet will see my Missy without forcing me to vaccinate her
against rabies.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Panleuk will kill within 7-10 days tops.
>
> If the shelter vaccinated the momcat while she was nursing, that can
explain
> a lot. That can hamper milk production and bring on a uri that was dormant
> before.
>
> I usually go straight to zith when dealing with shelter uris, maybe zith
and
> clavamox if it's really severe.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. They have been
> treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.
>
> They look SOOO much better today.
>
> The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
> isolating. Then they got large enough to want to explore, while still
> being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb. That's
> how *they* got it.
>
> Little Muffin's eye looks bad. I hope she'll be ok.
>
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
> > decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like
> the
> > boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties
(whom
> i
> > think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked!
> hee
> > hee)
> >
> > MC
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> > >
> > > They say they bleach clean cages.
> > >
> > > I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up. If a
> > > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
> > > from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner surrenders, who
> > > can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> > > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
> > > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> > > singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I really
> > > wouldn't blame them.
> > >
> > > My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
> > > them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
> > > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
> > > lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I
> > > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> > >
> > > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
> > > family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> > > without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if she ever
> > > saw a vet before the shelter.
> > >
> > > I named her Faith
> > >
> > > Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper shot,
> > > combo test, Revolution.
> > >
> > > I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens. I took the first litter up
> > > at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated. They were
> > > sick and I got Clavamox for them. They are now over 1lb, but too ill
> > > to be vaccinated.
> > >
> > > The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Who told you it is the law?  What state/county are you in?  In California, 
different counties have different requirements re rabies vaccinations but all 
those counties that do require a vaccine will allow a vet to temporarily waive 
the requirement for sound medical reasons.  If the law is different where you 
are, could you give me the citation, whether it is state code or local 
regulation.  I'd like to take a look.
   
  I rarely do tiny kittens, and almost never have bottle babies.  (Though I 
have a great foster who loves to take on the little ones and also has no real 
mortality rate.)  I've had some very sick 2 or 3 month olds from shelters, as 
well as adults, but I rarely have anyone under 6 weeks. (Never mind the 4 week 
old in my bathroom. It was an emergency.)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  It isn't panleuk, then. I have not brought anyone new in 2 weeks.
Just pray the rest of them live. They seem so much better after the
zithro.

I can't believe you have never lost anyone to shelter URI. I have
much to learn from you. I lost 1 per litter last year.

They didn't vaccinate her while she was nursing. She was in late
stage pregnancy.

They WILL vaccinate nursing moms, and have. It is the law. I am
lucky my vet will see my Missy without forcing me to vaccinate her
against rabies.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Panleuk will kill within 7-10 days tops.
>
> If the shelter vaccinated the momcat while she was nursing, that can explain
> a lot. That can hamper milk production and bring on a uri that was dormant
> before.
>
> I usually go straight to zith when dealing with shelter uris, maybe zith and
> clavamox if it's really severe.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. They have been
> treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.
>
> They look SOOO much better today.
>
> The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
> isolating. Then they got large enough to want to explore, while still
> being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb. That's
> how *they* got it.
>
> Little Muffin's eye looks bad. I hope she'll be ok.
>
>
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> > susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
> > decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like
> the
> > boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom
> i
> > think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked!
> hee
> > hee)
> >
> > MC
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> > >
> > > They say they bleach clean cages.
> > >
> > > I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up. If a
> > > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
> > > from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner surrenders, who
> > > can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> > > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
> > > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> > > singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I really
> > > wouldn't blame them.
> > >
> > > My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
> > > them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
> > > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
> > > lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I
> > > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> > >
> > > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
> > > family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> > > without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if she ever
> > > saw a vet before the shelter.
> > >
> > > I named her Faith
> > >
> > > Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper shot,
> > > combo test, Revolution.
> > >
> > > I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens. I took the first litter up
> > > at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated. They were
> > > sick and I got Clavamox for them. They are now over 1lb, but too ill
> > > to be vaccinated.
> > >
> > > The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
> > > syringe feed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Who can afford necropsies? Does the shelter have a history of panleuk
> > (many
> > > > have it every year). Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage
> to
> > > > cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage? Do
> they
> > > > vaccinate on intake?
> > > >
> > > > What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
> > > >
> > > > When do you or your rescue start vaccinations? I use the Heska
> > ultranasal
> > > > FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> > > > around 5 weeks.)
> > > >
> > > > How fast are the cats/ki

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

It isn't panleuk, then.  I have not brought anyone new in 2 weeks.
Just pray the rest of them live.  They seem so much better after the
zithro.

I can't believe you have never lost anyone to shelter URI.  I have
much to learn from you.  I lost 1 per litter last year.

They didn't vaccinate her while she was nursing.  She was in late
stage pregnancy.

They WILL vaccinate nursing moms, and have.  It is the law.  I am
lucky my vet will see my Missy without forcing me to vaccinate her
against rabies.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Panleuk will kill within 7-10 days tops.

If the shelter vaccinated the momcat while she was nursing, that can explain
a lot.  That can hamper milk production and bring on a uri that was dormant
before.

I usually go straight to zith when dealing with shelter uris, maybe zith and
clavamox if it's really severe.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. They have been
treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.

They look SOOO much better today.

The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
isolating. Then they got large enough to want to explore, while still
being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb. That's
how *they* got it.

Little Muffin's eye looks bad. I hope she'll be ok.


On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
> decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like
the
> boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom
i
> think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked!
hee
> hee)
>
> MC
>
>
> On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> >
> > They say they bleach clean cages.
> >
> > I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up. If a
> > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
> > from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner surrenders, who
> > can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
> > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> > singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I really
> > wouldn't blame them.
> >
> > My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
> > them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
> > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
> > lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I
> > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> >
> > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
> > family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> > without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if she ever
> > saw a vet before the shelter.
> >
> > I named her Faith
> >
> > Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper shot,
> > combo test, Revolution.
> >
> > I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens. I took the first litter up
> > at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated. They were
> > sick and I got Clavamox for them. They are now over 1lb, but too ill
> > to be vaccinated.
> >
> > The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
> > syringe feed.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Who can afford necropsies? Does the shelter have a history of panleuk
> (many
> > > have it every year). Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage
to
> > > cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage? Do
they
> > > vaccinate on intake?
> > >
> > > What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
> > >
> > > When do you or your rescue start vaccinations? I use the Heska
> ultranasal
> > > FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> > > around 5 weeks.)
> > >
> > > How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill. What behavior do you see
> > > around the water bowl near the end? What color is any vomit? (Yuck, I
> > > know. But it's relevant.)
> > >
> > > Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?
> > >
> > > From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.
> But
> > > you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
> > > each kitten:(.
> > >
> > > They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
> > > is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > > Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
> > > >
> > > > These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin
with.
> Was
> > > > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> > > > nursing?
> > > >
> > > > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
> >

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Panleuk will kill within 7-10 days tops.
   
  If the shelter vaccinated the momcat while she was nursing, that can explain 
a lot.  That can hamper milk production and bring on a uri that was dormant 
before.  
   
  I usually go straight to zith when dealing with shelter uris, maybe zith and 
clavamox if it's really severe.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. They have been
treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.

They look SOOO much better today.

The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
isolating. Then they got large enough to want to explore, while still
being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb. That's
how *they* got it.

Little Muffin's eye looks bad. I hope she'll be ok.


On 5/8/07, MaryChristine wrote:
> susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
> decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like the
> boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom i
> think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked! hee
> hee)
>
> MC
>
>
> On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> >
> > They say they bleach clean cages.
> >
> > I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up. If a
> > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
> > from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner surrenders, who
> > can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
> > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> > singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I really
> > wouldn't blame them.
> >
> > My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
> > them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
> > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
> > lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I
> > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> >
> > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
> > family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> > without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if she ever
> > saw a vet before the shelter.
> >
> > I named her Faith
> >
> > Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper shot,
> > combo test, Revolution.
> >
> > I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens. I took the first litter up
> > at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated. They were
> > sick and I got Clavamox for them. They are now over 1lb, but too ill
> > to be vaccinated.
> >
> > The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
> > syringe feed.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Who can afford necropsies? Does the shelter have a history of panleuk
> (many
> > > have it every year). Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to
> > > cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage? Do they
> > > vaccinate on intake?
> > >
> > > What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
> > >
> > > When do you or your rescue start vaccinations? I use the Heska
> ultranasal
> > > FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> > > around 5 weeks.)
> > >
> > > How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill. What behavior do you see
> > > around the water bowl near the end? What color is any vomit? (Yuck, I
> > > know. But it's relevant.)
> > >
> > > Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?
> > >
> > > From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.
> But
> > > you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
> > > each kitten:(.
> > >
> > > They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
> > > is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > > Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
> > > >
> > > > These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.
> Was
> > > > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> > > > nursing?
> > > >
> > > > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
> > > >
> > > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> > > > the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> > > > did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> > > > lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> > > > (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> > > > was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> > > > No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have di

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Sheryl Spagg]

What do you put on their eyes?  I was told to use
neosporin and it will clear up their eyes and it has
worked wonders with my kittens...their eyes are as
clear as they should be...


--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea. 
> They have been
> treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.
> 
> They look SOOO much better today.
> 
> The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a
> great job of
> isolating.  Then they got large enough to want to
> explore, while still
> being small enough to be able to wiggle under the
> door jamb.  That's
> how *they* got it.
> 
> Little Muffin's eye looks bad.  I hope she'll be ok.
> 
> 
> On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be
> presenting more with rapid
> > decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this
> sounds to me more like the
> > boomeranging basic uri from
> not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom i
> > think should have been put on zithro right away,
> not that her vet asked! hee
> > hee)
> >
> > MC
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > I can ask if they have a history of it.
> > >
> > > They say they bleach clean cages.
> > >
> > > I will tell you what happens, though.  Litters
> get mixed up.  If a
> > > good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows
> if they were ever
> > > from the same litter to begin with.  If they are
> owner surrenders, who
> > > can say if they don't throw in several small
> litters together.
> > > We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take
> a litter, and there
> > > is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC
> will stick the
> > > singleton in with the others.  But we have no
> proof.  And I really
> > > wouldn't blame them.
> > >
> > > My quarantine procedures are not what they
> should be or what I want
> > > them to be.  I am these kittens' only chance,
> though, even if some
> > > pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens
> less than 6 weeks/1
> > > lb.  So they call me and if I say no, they kill
> them directly.  I
> > > haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
> > >
> > > The history of the momcat is that she was dumped
> at the shelter by her
> > > family.  They said "She's pregnant, we don't
> want her" and left
> > > without even giving her name.  So I have no way
> of knowing if she ever
> > > saw a vet before the shelter.
> > >
> > > I named her Faith
> > >
> > > Before I got her she got standard workup: 
> Rabies, Distemper shot,
> > > combo test, Revolution.
> > >
> > > I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens.  I
> took the first litter up
> > > at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be
> vaccinated.  They were
> > > sick and I got Clavamox for them.  They are now
> over 1lb, but too ill
> > > to be vaccinated.
> > >
> > > The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an
> adult I'm trying to
> > > syringe feed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Who can afford necropsies?  Does the shelter
> have a history of panleuk
> > (many
> > > > have it every year).  Do they bleach-clean
> cages, move cats from cage to
> > > > cage, put multiple cats from different places
> in the same cage?  Do they
> > > > vaccinate on intake?
> > > >
> > > > What is the vaccination history on the momcat
> who stopped nursing?
> > > >
> > > > When do you or your rescue start vaccinations?
>  I use the Heska
> > ultranasal
> > > > FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as
> 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> > > > around 5 weeks.)
> > > >
> > > > How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill. 
> What behavior do you see
> > > > around the water bowl near the end?  What
> color is any vomit?  (Yuck, I
> > > > know.  But it's relevant.)
> > > >
> > > > Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?
> > > >
> > > > From what you have said I would be a little
> concerned about panleuk.
> > But
> > > > you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
> > > >
> > > > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't
> afford necropsies on
> > > > each kitten:(.
> > > >
> > > > They *all* seem much, much better after the
> switch to zithro. But it
> > > > is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of
> URI.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > > > Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
> > > > >
> > > > > These are tiny kittens who started off on
> the wrong paw to begin with.
> > Was
> > > > > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated
> during the pregnancy or while
> > > > > nursing?
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to
> terramycin.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > > Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very
> bad eye discharge, perhaps
> > > > > the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was
> eating, though, and i
> > > > > did not expect her to die. Last week I came
> downstairs to find one
> > > > > lying in the f

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Yes, i have a few who have had a little diarrhea.  They have been
treated with albon and it is pretty much cleared up.

They look SOOO much better today.

The ones upstairs in the bathroom I was doing a great job of
isolating.  Then they got large enough to want to explore, while still
being small enough to be able to wiggle under the door jamb.  That's
how *they* got it.

Little Muffin's eye looks bad.  I hope she'll be ok.


On 5/8/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like the
boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom i
think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked! hee
hee)

MC


On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can ask if they have a history of it.
>
> They say they bleach clean cages.
>
> I will tell you what happens, though.  Litters get mixed up.  If a
> good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
> from the same litter to begin with.  If they are owner surrenders, who
> can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
> We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
> is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
> singleton in with the others.  But we have no proof.  And I really
> wouldn't blame them.
>
> My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
> them to be.  I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
> pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
> lb.  So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly.  I
> haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,
>
> The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
> family.  They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
> without even giving her name.  So I have no way of knowing if she ever
> saw a vet before the shelter.
>
> I named her Faith
>
> Before I got her she got standard workup:  Rabies, Distemper shot,
> combo test, Revolution.
>
> I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens.  I took the first litter up
> at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated.  They were
> sick and I got Clavamox for them.  They are now over 1lb, but too ill
> to be vaccinated.
>
> The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
> syringe feed.
>
>
>
> On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Who can afford necropsies?  Does the shelter have a history of panleuk
(many
> > have it every year).  Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to
> > cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage?  Do they
> > vaccinate on intake?
> >
> > What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
> >
> > When do you or your rescue start vaccinations?  I use the Heska
ultranasal
> > FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> > around 5 weeks.)
> >
> > How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill.  What behavior do you see
> > around the water bowl near the end?  What color is any vomit?  (Yuck, I
> > know.  But it's relevant.)
> >
> > Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?
> >
> > From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.
But
> > you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
> > each kitten:(.
> >
> > They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
> > is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
> > >
> > > These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.
Was
> > > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> > > nursing?
> > >
> > > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> > > the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> > > did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> > > lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> > > (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> > > was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> > > No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
> > > One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
> > > days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
> > > the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
> > > in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
> > > was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.
> > >
> > > All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
> > > ones have horrible c

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[MaryChristine]

susan, if this were panleuk, wouldn't it be presenting more with rapid
decline from fairly uncontrollable diarrhea? this sounds to me more like the
boomeranging basic uri from not-too-hardy-to-begin-with kitties (whom i
think should have been put on zithro right away, not that her vet asked! hee
hee)

MC

On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I can ask if they have a history of it.

They say they bleach clean cages.

I will tell you what happens, though.  Litters get mixed up.  If a
good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
from the same litter to begin with.  If they are owner surrenders, who
can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
singleton in with the others.  But we have no proof.  And I really
wouldn't blame them.

My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
them to be.  I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
lb.  So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly.  I
haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,

The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
family.  They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
without even giving her name.  So I have no way of knowing if she ever
saw a vet before the shelter.

I named her Faith

Before I got her she got standard workup:  Rabies, Distemper shot,
combo test, Revolution.

I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens.  I took the first litter up
at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated.  They were
sick and I got Clavamox for them.  They are now over 1lb, but too ill
to be vaccinated.

The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
syringe feed.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who can afford necropsies?  Does the shelter have a history of panleuk
(many
> have it every year).  Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to
> cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage?  Do they
> vaccinate on intake?
>
> What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
>
> When do you or your rescue start vaccinations?  I use the Heska
ultranasal
> FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
> around 5 weeks.)
>
> How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill.  What behavior do you see
> around the water bowl near the end?  What color is any vomit?  (Yuck, I
> know.  But it's relevant.)
>
> Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?
>
> From what you have said I would be a little concerned about
panleuk.  But
> you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
> each kitten:(.
>
> They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
> is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
> >
> > These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.
Was
> > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> > nursing?
> >
> > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> > the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> > did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> > lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> > (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> > was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> > No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
> > One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
> > days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
> > the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
> > in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
> > was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.
> >
> > All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
> > ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
> > not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
> > eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.
> >
> > I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
> > food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.
> >
> > Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.
> >
> > I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
> > usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
> > have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
> > who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Susan Hof

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I can ask if they have a history of it.

They say they bleach clean cages.

I will tell you what happens, though.  Litters get mixed up.  If a
good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever
from the same litter to begin with.  If they are owner surrenders, who
can say if they don't throw in several small litters together.
We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there
is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the
singleton in with the others.  But we have no proof.  And I really
wouldn't blame them.

My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want
them to be.  I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some
pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1
lb.  So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly.  I
haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though.,

The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her
family.  They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left
without even giving her name.  So I have no way of knowing if she ever
saw a vet before the shelter.

I named her Faith

Before I got her she got standard workup:  Rabies, Distemper shot,
combo test, Revolution.

I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens.  I took the first litter up
at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated.  They were
sick and I got Clavamox for them.  They are now over 1lb, but too ill
to be vaccinated.

The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to
syringe feed.



On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Who can afford necropsies?  Does the shelter have a history of panleuk (many
have it every year).  Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to
cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage?  Do they
vaccinate on intake?

What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?

When do you or your rescue start vaccinations?  I use the Heska ultranasal
FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till
around 5 weeks.)

How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill.  What behavior do you see
around the water bowl near the end?  What color is any vomit?  (Yuck, I
know.  But it's relevant.)

Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?

From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.  But
you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
each kitten:(.

They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
>
> These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with. Was
> the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> nursing?
>
> FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
> One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
> days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
> the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
> in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
> was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.
>
> All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
> ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
> not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
> eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.
>
> I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
> food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.
>
> Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.
>
> I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
> usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
> have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
> who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really
> > nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do
> zithromax
> > and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
> > nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So
> tell
> > me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with
> > uris.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > It is for URI. I have lost several already.
> >

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Sheryl Spagg]

What is Zithromax and where do I get it from?  My vet
gave the medicine and if the URI's get worse they
usually give Baytril but his isn't real bad...just
stuffy and that persistent cough.
Sheryl




--- Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would go with zikthromax.  Clavamox and
> amoxicillin are just not strong enough alone for
> stubborn problems.  And the only time I use a
> vaporizer is when there is a lot of congestion and
> the cat is having a lot of problems breathing. 
> Never heard of the vinegar before and it sounds
> pretty foul to me.  (I hate the smell of vinegar.) 
> I have used Vick's for vaporizers but just for a
> little bit at a time.  I have heard it is not good
> for cats but in an emergency when you want to get
> nasal passages opened up, I go for it.  But if he's
> eating well, it sounds like he can smell and breath
> so I think I would just do zithromax in this case.
> 
> Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Question
> about URI's since you are good with them...I
> have a 6-7 month old boy in my basement I am trying
> to
> nurse with a URI. He is on Clavimox/Amoxicilin I
> think that is what it is called...it is a liquid...I
> am also running a vaporizer for him 24 hours around
> the clock. I did have vinegar in the water but my
> boyfriend thought that was too much for him so last
> night I put just plain water. I can't tell if he is
> sounding any better. He has this awful cough that
> keeps lingering on. He has only been on medicine
> since Sat. night. I know some cats it takes longer
> to
> break the URI, but should I be worried that this
> cough
> is still lingering? He is eating like a piggy and is
> purring and appears to be acting well. He does not
> have any discharge anymore, but again, that cough
> just
> won't go away...any ideas? Have you ever heard of
> using vinegar with a vaporizer? Should I put it back
> in? He is negative so far for FeLV by the way...
> Thanks,
> Sheryl
> 
> 
> --- Susan Hoffman wrote:
> 
> > Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've
> > dealt with some really nasty shelter uris but have
> > never lost anyone to it. I usually do zithromax
> and
> > clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline
> > formula to boost nutrition, pedialyte to maintain
> > hydration and electrolyte balance. So tell me what
> > symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm
> > pretty good with uris.
> > 
> > Kelley Saveika wrote: It is
> > for URI. I have lost several already.
> > 
> > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really
> > effective.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just
> > hope the meds work.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I
> will
> > try to call everyone.
> > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of
> > hours it sounds like an
> > > online
> > > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you
> > need it right away, I would
> > > call
> > > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how
> > much for the prescription
> > > you
> > > > > have. When I did this I found one that was
> $15
> > cheaper than any of the
> > > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill
> > another one awhile later it
> > > was
> > > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the
> > receipt to prove they sold it
> > > to me
> > > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get
> > the price and the persons
> > > name
> > > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a
> > prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a
> time.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > > >
> > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty
> life!
> > > >
> > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > > >
> > > > Please help Gandalf!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > > >
> > > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > > >
> > > > Raise money for your favorite charity or
> school
> > just by searching the
> > > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com
> -
> > powered by Yahoo!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> > just by searching t

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Who can afford necropsies?  Does the shelter have a history of panleuk (many 
have it every year).  Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to cage, 
put multiple cats from different places in the same cage?  Do they vaccinate on 
intake?  
   
  What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing?
   
  When do you or your rescue start vaccinations?  I use the Heska ultranasal 
FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till around 5 
weeks.)
   
  How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill.  What behavior do you see 
around the water bowl near the end?  What color is any vomit?  (Yuck, I know.  
But it's relevant.)
   
  Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals?  
   
  From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.  But you 
can rule it in or out without a necropsy.   

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on
each kitten:(.

They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it
is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
>
> These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with. Was
> the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> nursing?
>
> FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
> One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
> days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
> the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
> in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
> was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.
>
> All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
> ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
> not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
> eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.
>
> I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
> food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.
>
> Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.
>
> I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
> usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
> have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
> who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really
> > nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do
> zithromax
> > and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
> > nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So
> tell
> > me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with
> > uris.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > It is for URI. I have lost several already.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> > > online
> > > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I
> would
> > > call
> > > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the
> prescription
> > > you
> > > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of
> the
> > > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later
> it
> > > was
> > > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold
> it
> > > to me
> > > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the
> persons
> > > name
> > > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one c

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I use nebulizers (not vaporizers) with medicine in them..not water...I
have heard some people take cats into the bathroom with them when they
shower, too.

Here's the nebulizer I made (well, I didn't make the one in the pic,
but one very similar).

http://catnipkids.homestead.com/nebulizer.html

On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would go with zikthromax.  Clavamox and amoxicillin are just not strong
enough alone for stubborn problems.  And the only time I use a vaporizer is
when there is a lot of congestion and the cat is having a lot of problems
breathing.  Never heard of the vinegar before and it sounds pretty foul to
me.  (I hate the smell of vinegar.)  I have used Vick's for vaporizers but
just for a little bit at a time.  I have heard it is not good for cats but
in an emergency when you want to get nasal passages opened up, I go for it.
But if he's eating well, it sounds like he can smell and breath so I think I
would just do zithromax in this case.

Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Question about URI's since you are good with them...I
have a 6-7 month old boy in my basement I am trying to
nurse with a URI. He is on Clavimox/Amoxicilin I
think that is what it is called...it is a liquid...I
am also running a vaporizer for him 24 hours around
the clock. I did have vinegar in the water but my
boyfriend thought that was too much for him so last
night I put just plain water. I can't tell if he is
sounding any better. He has this awful cough that
keeps lingering on. He has only been on medicine
since Sat. night. I know some cats it takes longer to
break the URI, but should I be worried that this cough
is still lingering? He is eating like a piggy and is
purring and appears to be acting well. He does not
have any discharge anymore, but again, that cough just
won't go away...any ideas? Have you ever heard of
using vinegar with a vaporizer? Should I put it back
in? He is negative so far for FeLV by the way...
Thanks,
Sheryl


--- Susan Hoffman wrote:

> Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've
> dealt with some really nasty shelter uris but have
> never lost anyone to it. I usually do zithromax and
> clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline
> formula to boost nutrition, pedialyte to maintain
> hydration and electrolyte balance. So tell me what
> symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm
> pretty good with uris.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote: It is

> for URI. I have lost several already.
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really
> effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just
> hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will
> try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of
> hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you
> need it right away, I would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how
> much for the prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15
> cheaper than any of the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill
> another one awhile later it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the
> receipt to prove they sold it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get
> the price and the persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a
> prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and s

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

The mom who stopped nursing was vaccinated late term.  I cannot
prevent rabies vaccinations from happening; it is against the law to
transfer an animal out of a public shelter without it.  Even if it
would kill the animal.

However, she appears to have started both eating and nursing again.
*She's* sick too.  Pretty definite URI.  My vet says I can't give her
zithro and also give the kittens zithro while she is nursing. Says
there are no studies.

I've also got fleas, and he won't let me capstar them until they are 2
lb (which seems to be taking forever) and i can't bathe them as they
are sick (well, I could, but I'm not).

On 5/8/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have not ruled out anything.  My rescue can't afford necropsies on
each kitten:(.

They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro.  But it
is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
>
> These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.  Was
> the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
> nursing?
>
> FYI:  BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
> the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
> did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
> lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
> (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
> was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
> No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
> One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
> days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
> the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
> in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
> was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.
>
> All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
> ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
> not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
> eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.
>
> I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
> food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.
>
> Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.
>
> I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
> usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
> have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
> who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really
> > nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do
> zithromax
> > and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
> > nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So
> tell
> > me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with
> > uris.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > It is for URI. I have lost several already.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> > > online
> > > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I
> would
> > > call
> > > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the
> prescription
> > > you
> > > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of
> the
> > > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later
> it
> > > was
> > > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold
> it
> > > to me
> > > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the
> persons
> > > name
> > > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > > >
> > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > > >
> > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-2

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

I have not ruled out anything.  My rescue can't afford necropsies on
each kitten:(.

They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro.  But it
is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have you ruled out panleukopenia?

These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.  Was
the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while
nursing?

FYI:  BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
(actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.

All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.

I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.

Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.

I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really
> nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do
zithromax
> and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
> nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So
tell
> me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with
> uris.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> It is for URI. I have lost several already.
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I
would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the
prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of
the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later
it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold
it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the
persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a k

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

I would go with zikthromax.  Clavamox and amoxicillin are just not strong 
enough alone for stubborn problems.  And the only time I use a vaporizer is 
when there is a lot of congestion and the cat is having a lot of problems 
breathing.  Never heard of the vinegar before and it sounds pretty foul to me.  
(I hate the smell of vinegar.)  I have used Vick's for vaporizers but just for 
a little bit at a time.  I have heard it is not good for cats but in an 
emergency when you want to get nasal passages opened up, I go for it.  But if 
he's eating well, it sounds like he can smell and breath so I think I would 
just do zithromax in this case.

Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Question about URI's since you are 
good with them...I
have a 6-7 month old boy in my basement I am trying to
nurse with a URI. He is on Clavimox/Amoxicilin I
think that is what it is called...it is a liquid...I
am also running a vaporizer for him 24 hours around
the clock. I did have vinegar in the water but my
boyfriend thought that was too much for him so last
night I put just plain water. I can't tell if he is
sounding any better. He has this awful cough that
keeps lingering on. He has only been on medicine
since Sat. night. I know some cats it takes longer to
break the URI, but should I be worried that this cough
is still lingering? He is eating like a piggy and is
purring and appears to be acting well. He does not
have any discharge anymore, but again, that cough just
won't go away...any ideas? Have you ever heard of
using vinegar with a vaporizer? Should I put it back
in? He is negative so far for FeLV by the way...
Thanks,
Sheryl


--- Susan Hoffman wrote:

> Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've
> dealt with some really nasty shelter uris but have
> never lost anyone to it. I usually do zithromax and
> clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline
> formula to boost nutrition, pedialyte to maintain
> hydration and electrolyte balance. So tell me what
> symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm
> pretty good with uris.
> 
> Kelley Saveika wrote: It is
> for URI. I have lost several already.
> 
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really
> effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just
> hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will
> try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of
> hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you
> need it right away, I would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how
> much for the prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15
> cheaper than any of the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill
> another one awhile later it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the
> receipt to prove they sold it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get
> the price and the persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a
> prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 
> Please help Gandalf!
> 
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> 
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> 
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just
> by searching the
> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> 
> 
> 


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Sheryl Spagg]

Question about URI's since you are good with them...I
have a 6-7 month old boy in my basement I am trying to
nurse with a URI.  He is on Clavimox/Amoxicilin I
think that is what it is called...it is a liquid...I
am also running a vaporizer for him 24 hours around
the clock.  I did have vinegar in the water but my
boyfriend thought that was too much for him so last
night I put just plain water.  I can't tell if he is
sounding any better.  He has this awful cough that
keeps lingering on.  He has only been on medicine
since Sat. night.  I know some cats it takes longer to
break the URI, but should I be worried that this cough
is still lingering?  He is eating like a piggy and is
purring and appears to be acting well.  He does not
have any discharge anymore, but again, that cough just
won't go away...any ideas?  Have you ever heard of
using vinegar with a vaporizer?  Should I put it back
in?  He is negative so far for FeLV by the way...
Thanks,
Sheryl


--- Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lost to uri?  What age, and what symptoms.  I've
> dealt with some really nasty shelter uris but have
> never lost anyone to it.  I usually do zithromax and
> clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline
> formula to boost nutrition, pedialyte to maintain
> hydration and electrolyte balance.  So tell me what
> symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are.  I'm
> pretty good with uris.
> 
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  It is
> for URI. I have lost several already.
> 
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really
> effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just
> hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will
> try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of
> hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you
> need it right away, I would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how
> much for the prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15
> cheaper than any of the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill
> another one awhile later it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the
> receipt to prove they sold it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get
> the price and the persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a
> prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school
> just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 
> Please help Gandalf!
> 
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> 
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> 
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just
> by searching the
> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> 
> 
> 


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Have you ruled out panleukopenia?
   
  These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with.  Was 
the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while nursing?
   
  FYI:  BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i
did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one
lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS
(actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold.
No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes.
One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.

All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living
ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.

I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.

Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.

I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not
usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't
have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those
who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really
> nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do zithromax
> and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
> nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So tell
> me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with
> uris.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> It is for URI. I have lost several already.
>
> On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> > online
> > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I would
> > call
> > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription
> > you
> > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it
> > was
> > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it
> > to me
> > > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the persons
> > name
> > > > and keep your receipt.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> > >
> > > Please help Gandalf!
> > >
> > > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> > >
> > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> > >
> > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> > > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Gandalf!
>
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
>
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
>
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> Internet with G

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday.  Very bad eye discharge, perhaps
the worst I've seen.  Congestion too.  She was eating, though, and i
did not expect her to die.   Last week I came downstairs to find one
lying in the floor close to death.  He was suffering so I had him PTS
(actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he
was suffering and too far gone,  to PTS)..  He was very, very cold.
No other symptoms I could detect.   3 have died of unknown causes.
One maybe fading kitten syndrome.  Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23
days.  Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at
the vet.  She died at vet.  One kitten dead in bathroom when I went
in, no prior symptoms.  One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I
was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well.

All died between 3-5 weeks.  The living ones are 4-7 weeks.  Living
ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some
not.  Were on clavamox x2 weeks.  Were on triple antiobiotic drops for
eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin.

I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed
food within 3-5 minutes after feeding.

Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well.

I lose kittens to URI every year.  Not usually this many, but I do not
usually take in this many either.  I take a lot of kittens who don't
have high viability to begin with.  I'm especially a sucker for those
who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:(

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lost to uri?  What age, and what symptoms.  I've dealt with some really
nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it.  I usually do zithromax
and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost
nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance.  So tell
me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are.  I'm pretty good with
uris.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It is for URI. I have lost several already.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
>
> On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> Thanks.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> online
> > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I would
> call
> > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription
> you
> > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it
> was
> > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it
> to me
> > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the persons
> name
> > > and keep your receipt.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
> > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Gandalf!
>
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
>
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
>
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
>
>
>


--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Gandalf!

http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!






--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Gandalf!

http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered 

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Lost to uri?  What age, and what symptoms.  I've dealt with some really nasty 
shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it.  I usually do zithromax and 
clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost nutrition, 
pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance.  So tell me what 
symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are.  I'm pretty good with uris.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  It is for URI. I have lost several 
already.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote:
> If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.
>
> On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
> Thanks.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
> online
> > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I would
> call
> > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription
> you
> > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it
> was
> > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it
> to me
> > > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the persons
> name
> > > and keep your receipt.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > > To: "felvtalk"
> > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > > within the next couple of hours.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Gandalf!
> >
> > http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> >
> > I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> >
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

It is for URI.  I have lost several already.

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work.

On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone.
Thanks.
>
> On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an
online
> > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I would
call
> > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription
you
> > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it
was
> > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it
to me
> > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the persons
name
> > and keep your receipt.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kelley Saveika"
> > To: "felvtalk"
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> >
> >
> > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > within the next couple of hours.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 
something. Just hope the meds work.

On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone. Thanks.
>
> On 5/7/07, gary wrote:
> > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an online
> > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I would call
> > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription you
> > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it was
> > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it to me
> > cheaper before. When your on the phone, get the price and the persons name
> > and keep your receipt.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kelley Saveika" 
> > To: "felvtalk" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> > Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
> >
> >
> > > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > > within the next couple of hours.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Gandalf!
>
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
>
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
>
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> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
>


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Target is cheaper than CVS.  $32 something.  Just hope the meds work.

On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Correct, an online purchase will not do.  I will try to call everyone.  Thanks.

On 5/7/07, gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an online
> purchase won't do, is that correct?  If you need it right away, I would call
> all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription you
> have.  When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
> others.  Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it was
> $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it to me
> cheaper before.  When your on the phone, get the price and the persons name
> and keep your receipt.
>
> Gary
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "felvtalk" 
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
> Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?
>
>
> > Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> > within the next couple of hours.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
>
>


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Correct, an online purchase will not do.  I will try to call everyone.  Thanks.

On 5/7/07, gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an online
purchase won't do, is that correct?  If you need it right away, I would call
all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription you
have.  When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the
others.  Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it was
$15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it to me
cheaper before.  When your on the phone, get the price and the persons name
and keep your receipt.

Gary

- Original Message -
From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "felvtalk" 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?


> Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
> within the next couple of hours.
>
> Thanks,






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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[gary]

If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an online 
purchase won't do, is that correct?  If you need it right away, I would call 
all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the prescription you 
have.  When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of the 
others.  Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later it was 
$15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold it to me 
cheaper before.  When your on the phone, get the price and the persons name 
and keep your receipt.


Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "felvtalk" 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?



Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
within the next couple of hours.

Thanks,

Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Kelley Saveika]

Cheaper than the $50 or so CVS will charge me.  Have to have today,
not in ten days.:(

On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cheaper than what?  I order from www.1drugstore-online.com but it's from
outside the US and takes a week or 10 days to get to me in California.


Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Or at least cheaper..I have a prescription..will need to be bought
within the next couple of hours.

Thanks,


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Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?

[Susan Hoffman]

Cheaper than what?  I order from www.1drugstore-online.com but it's from 
outside the US and takes a week or 10 days to get to me in California.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Or at least cheaper..I have a 
prescription..will need to be bought
within the next couple of hours.

Thanks,


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