Re: pet-food recall info

[Pam Norman]

I couldn't agree more. They are the pharmaceutical industry's ally. It 
comes down to that.


Pam

elizabeth trent wrote:
I'm really having a problem with the FDA.  I don't think they have 
been fast enough or honest enough.  They really have not impressed me 
as being my ally or my pet's ally.
 
elizabeth


 
On 5/4/07, *MaryChristine* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from
it. that's why we're in this mess to START with. sigh.



On 5/4/07, *Debi Holmes *<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep
this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!!  Are
they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats??
 



*/Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >/*
wrote:

One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food
Direct... The
woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter
or rescue.
Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I
certainly wouldn't
want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I
wouldn't feed my own
kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is
going,
(besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage"
food for poultry
and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the
birds and
wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the
committee hearings
that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked
and we were
told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort
in the
assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought
to ask "and
what happens to it when you are ready to clear those
warehouses?
Nina



MaryChristine wrote:
> has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of
the bad food?
> so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs
and other food
> animals?
>
> On 5/4/07, * Nina* > > wrote:
>
> Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I
called them
> asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food
I purchased
> from them and they told me to write to them including the
UPS code
> from
> each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using
and they would
> refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused
> portion of
> my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies
you are
> dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts
to ask. I
> guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after
all.
> Nina
>




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Re: pet-food recall info

[elizabeth trent]

I'm really having a problem with the FDA.  I don't think they have been fast
enough or honest enough.  They really have not impressed me as being my ally
or my pet's ally.

elizabeth


On 5/4/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's
why we're in this mess to START with. sigh.


On 5/4/07, Debi Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food
> that is making them no money in warehouses!!!  Are they going to keep it
> there to kill the mice and rats??
>
>
>
> *Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The
> woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue.
> Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't
> want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own
>
> kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going,
> (besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage" food for poultry
> and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and
> wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings
> that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were
> told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the
> assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask "and
> what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses?
> Nina
>
>
>
> MaryChristine wrote:
> > has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food?
>
> > so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food
>
> > animals?
> >
> > On 5/4/07, * Nina* > > wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them
> > asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased
> > from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code
> > from
> > each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would
> > refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused
> > portion of
> > my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
> > dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I
> > guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
> > Nina
> >
>
>
>
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Re: pet-food recall info

[MaryChristine]

you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's
why we're in this mess to START with. sigh.


On 5/4/07, Debi Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that
is making them no money in warehouses!!!  Are they going to keep it there to
kill the mice and rats??



*Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The
woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue.
Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't
want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own
kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going,
(besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage" food for poultry
and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and
wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings
that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were
told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the
assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask "and
what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses?
Nina



MaryChristine wrote:
> has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food?
> so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food
> animals?
>
> On 5/4/07, * Nina* > > wrote:
>
> Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them
> asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased
> from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code
> from
> each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would
> refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused
> portion of
> my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
> dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I
> guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
> Nina
>



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Re: pet-food recall info

[Debi Holmes]

I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is 
making them no money in warehouses!!!  Are they going to keep it there to kill 
the mice and rats??
   
  

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The 
woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. 
Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't 
want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own 
kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, 
(besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage" food for poultry 
and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and 
wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings 
that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were 
told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the 
assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask "and 
what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses?
Nina



MaryChristine wrote:
> has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? 
> so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food 
> animals?
>
> On 5/4/07, * Nina* > > wrote:
>
> Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them
> asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased
> from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code
> from
> each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would
> refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused
> portion of
> my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
> dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I
> guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
> Nina
>




   
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Re: pet-food recall info

[MaryChristine]

i'm just hoping that it doesn't end up in the hands of certain corporations
that used to be texas-based, tho have now moved overseas--they'd probably
recycle it into the school-lunch program.




On 5/4/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct...  The
woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue.
Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea.  I certainly wouldn't
want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own
kids.  I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going,
(besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage" food for poultry
and stockyards).  Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and
wildlife that would find it?  When I was watching the committee hearings
that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were
told that it was being warehoused.  I find little comfort in the
assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask "and
what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses?
Nina



MaryChristine wrote:
> has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food?
> so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food
> animals?
>
> On 5/4/07, * Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct.  I called them
> asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I
purchased
> from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code
> from
> each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they
would
> refund my account.  I don't even have to send back the unused
> portion of
> my order.  Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
> dealing with are as accommodating.  It truly never hurts to ask.  I
> guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
> Nina
>






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Re: pet-food recall info

[Nina]

One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct...  The 
woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue.  
Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea.  I certainly wouldn't 
want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own 
kids.  I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, 
(besides the possibility of it being sold as "salvage" food for poultry 
and stockyards).  Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and 
wildlife that would find it?  When I was watching the committee hearings 
that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were 
told that it was being warehoused.  I find little comfort in the 
assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask "and 
what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses?

Nina



MaryChristine wrote:
has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? 
so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food 
animals?


On 5/4/07, * Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct.  I called them
asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased
from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code
from
each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would
refund my account.  I don't even have to send back the unused
portion of
my order.  Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
dealing with are as accommodating.  It truly never hurts to ask.  I
guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
Nina

Re: pet-food recall info

[MaryChristine]

has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it
doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals?

On 5/4/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct.  I called them
asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased
from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from
each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would
refund my account.  I don't even have to send back the unused portion of
my order.  Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are
dealing with are as accommodating.  It truly never hurts to ask.  I
guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.
Nina

Nina wrote:
> Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands
> and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe.  I have 3
> cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list),
> that I'm now afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over crackers, but
> I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together,
> (maybe a little mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will start
> selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down.
> Nina






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Re: pet-food recall info

[Nina]

Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct.  I called them 
asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased 
from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from 
each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would 
refund my account.  I don't even have to send back the unused portion of 
my order.  Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are 
dealing with are as accommodating.  It truly never hurts to ask.  I 
guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all.

Nina

Nina wrote:
Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands 
and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe.  I have 3 
cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), 
that I'm now afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over crackers, but 
I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, 
(maybe a little mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will start 
selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down.

Nina

Re: pet-food recall info

[Marylyn]

Ask your vet about feeding raw.  Primal has cubes that you thaw..no fuss, no 
mess and, for those of us who have meat only for the cats, no having to deal 
with "it."  According to my Junior Partner, Dixie Louise, the stuff is great 
mixed with some water and lots of chopped broccoli.  For her, the price is 
less than Fancy Feast or EVO because it is so concentrated (the reason for 
adding some water).







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from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
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- Original Message - 
From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: pet-food recall info



I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo.  Katie's
(my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as
being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to
get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs.  Katie
won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are
starting to eat it now.  I can't believe I have 2
diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so
eventually I may have 3.  I am so relieved they are
eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better
for him.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise!

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> I tried some Evo last night (entirely
accidentally) but the cats love
> it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is
food.
>
> On 5/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was
compiled with
>> brands and
>> foods that have been verified by testing to be
safe.  I have 3 cases of
>> Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on
the list), that I'm now
>> afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over
crackers, but I'm not sure how
>> much I'd like beef and salmon combined together,
(maybe a little
>> mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will
start selling
>> home-testing
>> kits we can use before we set the food bowls
down.
>> Nina
>






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Re: pet-food recall info

[cindy reasoner]

I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo.  Katie's
(my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as
being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to
get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs.  Katie
won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are
starting to eat it now.  I can't believe I have 2
diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so
eventually I may have 3.  I am so relieved they are
eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better
for him.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise!
> 
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > I tried some Evo last night (entirely
> accidentally) but the cats love
> > it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is
> food.
> >
> > On 5/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was
> compiled with 
> >> brands and
> >> foods that have been verified by testing to be
> safe.  I have 3 cases of
> >> Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on
> the list), that I'm now
> >> afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over
> crackers, but I'm not sure how
> >> much I'd like beef and salmon combined together,
> (maybe a little
> >> mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will
> start selling 
> >> home-testing
> >> kits we can use before we set the food bowls
> down.
> >> Nina 
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Re: pet-food recall info

[Nina]

You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise!

Kelley Saveika wrote:

I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love
it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food.

On 5/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was compiled with 
brands and

foods that have been verified by testing to be safe.  I have 3 cases of
Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now
afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how
much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little
mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling 
home-testing

kits we can use before we set the food bowls down.
Nina 

Re: pet-food recall info

[Kelley Saveika]

I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love
it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food.

On 5/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and
foods that have been verified by testing to be safe.  I have 3 cases of
Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now
afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how
much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little
mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing
kits we can use before we set the food bowls down.
Nina

MaryChristine wrote:
www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why.

www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up
for email alerts.

MC



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Re: pet-food recall info

[Nina]

Thanks MC.  It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands 
and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe.  I have 3 cases 
of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm 
now afraid to feed.  I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure 
how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little 
mayonnaise).  Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling 
home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down.

Nina

MaryChristine wrote:
www.howl911.com  hasn't been updated in a few 
days; not sure why.


www.itchmo.com  seems to have the most 
up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts.


MC 

pet-food recall info

[MaryChristine]

www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why.

www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up
for email alerts.

MC

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