Re: [Finale] Left margin in scroll view

[Rich Caldwell]

I know this annoyed me as well in the past, but of course checking  
just now with 2006 back to 2004, it works just as Darcy describes.
Maybe there is an option somewhere that at some point I fixed?  In  
any case, the thing that I never bothered to figure out, is how to  
hand-drag the staves DOWN.  What if my top staff has very high notes  
or markings?  I know I must have run into this and perhaps used the  
staff tool to move 'em all, but it would be nice if I could hand-grab  
instead.  Am I forgetting something?


Rich

On Aug 5, 2005, at 12:01 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Craig,

I'm afraid I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

In Scroll View, you can use the hand grabber to put the leftmost  
barline anywhere you want, showing as much or as little of the  
staff names as you desire.  And once you've put it where you want  
it, it stays there, no matter what else you do (that is, provided  
you don't move left or right with the hand grabber tool again).  If  
you want to advance or retreat in Scroll View, on Mac, you can use  
cmd-page up and cmd-page down to do so.  (I'm sure there's a  
similar shortcut for Windows.)


In Page View, obviously, provided the staff names fit on the page,  
and left edge of the page is visible, the staff names are always  
visible.


In Studio View, the Staff Names are never visible, but the  
Instrument Names are always visible (by design).


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On 04 Aug 2005, at 10:57 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:


OK, this is one that has bugged me no end for 10 years.  But  
tonight it seems to be driving me crazy more than usual.


In scroll view, Finale displays the staff names to the left of the  
staff.  But the spacing is such that most of the staff name  
disappears off the left of the screen.  It makes no sense.  Why  
display the name and then chop it off?


With the staff tool, you can drag the staff to the right, allowing  
the staff name to show.  But here is the really annoying part:  
whenever you do just about anything, Finale resets the margin to  
its prior, useless setting.  The only way you can use this is to  
memorize the order of your staves.  That is not much fun when  
dealing with 20 or more staves.  Tonight I am trying to copy  
between two scores and it is taking forever.


What in (%&^&$ were they thinking?  It is as if somebody  
progeammed this intentionally as a means of torture.


If there is an option that controls this, I sure haven't found it.

I hope somebody can set me straight on this.
Thanks in advance.


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[Finale] FinMac '06 word extensions

[Lon Price]

I'm having a problem deleting word extensions in
FinMac '06. I'm getting word extensions all the way to
the end of a line, where verses 2 and 3 end, and the
chorus continues on the same lyric line as the first
verse. I select Edit Word Extensions, highlight the
offending extensions, hit delete, and they disappear
for a split second and then come right back.  I'm sure
my client won't like two lines running underneath the
chorus.  How do I get rid of them, or is this yet
another FinMac '06 bug?

Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] Left margin in scroll view

[Darcy James Argue]

Craig,

I'm afraid I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

In Scroll View, you can use the hand grabber to put the leftmost  
barline anywhere you want, showing as much or as little of the staff  
names as you desire.  And once you've put it where you want it, it  
stays there, no matter what else you do (that is, provided you don't  
move left or right with the hand grabber tool again).  If you want to  
advance or retreat in Scroll View, on Mac, you can use cmd-page up  
and cmd-page down to do so.  (I'm sure there's a similar shortcut for  
Windows.)


In Page View, obviously, provided the staff names fit on the page,  
and left edge of the page is visible, the staff names are always  
visible.


In Studio View, the Staff Names are never visible, but the Instrument  
Names are always visible (by design).


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On 04 Aug 2005, at 10:57 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:

OK, this is one that has bugged me no end for 10 years.  But  
tonight it seems to be driving me crazy more than usual.


In scroll view, Finale displays the staff names to the left of the  
staff.  But the spacing is such that most of the staff name  
disappears off the left of the screen.  It makes no sense.  Why  
display the name and then chop it off?


With the staff tool, you can drag the staff to the right, allowing  
the staff name to show.  But here is the really annoying part:  
whenever you do just about anything, Finale resets the margin to  
its prior, useless setting.  The only way you can use this is to  
memorize the order of your staves.  That is not much fun when  
dealing with 20 or more staves.  Tonight I am trying to copy  
between two scores and it is taking forever.


What in (%&^&$ were they thinking?  It is as if somebody progeammed  
this intentionally as a means of torture.


If there is an option that controls this, I sure haven't found it.

I hope somebody can set me straight on this.
Thanks in advance.

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[Finale] Left margin in scroll view

[Craig Parmerlee]

OK, this is one that has bugged me no end for 10 years.  But tonight it 
seems to be driving me crazy more than usual.


In scroll view, Finale displays the staff names to the left of the 
staff.  But the spacing is such that most of the staff name disappears 
off the left of the screen.  It makes no sense.  Why display the name 
and then chop it off?


With the staff tool, you can drag the staff to the right, allowing the 
staff name to show.  But here is the really annoying part: whenever you 
do just about anything, Finale resets the margin to its prior, useless 
setting.  The only way you can use this is to memorize the order of your 
staves.  That is not much fun when dealing with 20 or more staves.  
Tonight I am trying to copy between two scores and it is taking forever.


What in (%&^&$ were they thinking?  It is as if somebody progeammed this 
intentionally as a means of torture.


If there is an option that controls this, I sure haven't found it.

I hope somebody can set me straight on this.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Simon Troup]

> > Also earlier Mac, before April 2002 had FW power serge problem,
> > which is fatal to bus-powered FW, and may ore may not be related to
> > this issue.
> >
> > More info on my site: 

Hi Hiro

I think I reported something like this many months ago, and M-Audio
also recently mentioned something similar. Your article also explains
perfectly what happened to the FW on the logic board of my G4 350 when
I was trying to us a Formac DVD-RW host powered. The FW was completely
fried and no-one took responsibility - neither apple nor Formac.

I take it this can't happen any more?

Simon Troup
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Re: [Finale] GPO instrument Choice Question(s)

[Darcy James Argue]

Dean,

As I've said before on the list, you must load the KS (i.e.,  
keyswitched) instruments whenever possible, otherwise Human Playback  
instructions like "arco" and "pizz" won't work.


[It's stupid that MakeMusic included non-keyswitched alternatives  
alongside the KS instruments -- this is going to cause a lot of  
confusion.]


In general, it's best to avoid the "Full Strings KS" patch (and other  
"Full Strings" patches), unless you are running extremely low on  
memory and all your string staves always use the same dynamics,  
switch to pizz and arco at the same time, etc.  You will get a *much*  
better sound using the appropriate section strings for each section  
(i.e., "Violins KS", "Violas KS," etc).


When there is no GPO Finale Edition KS instrument available (for  
winds and brass, for example), you can use either the solo or section  
instruments -- just use whichever variant sounds most appropriate to  
your ears.


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On 04 Aug 2005, at 7:06 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

What differences in sound (if any) should I expect between, say,   
solo instrument choices,  section instruments, KS instruments  
(whatever that means), and Full String choices?  In other words,  
I'm not sure what to choose for which purposes.  Sounds pretty much  
like me, no?


Dean

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Karen]

Darcy,

Here...this is a quote from MacFixit...I've also included the source  
link..not MacFix it itself because one has to have a paid  
subscription to read the original article...


http://www.micronet.com/support/fw_panther_comp.asp
(snip) Q: Does the problem occur when connecting two Macs via Target  
Disk Mode?
A: A common question over the past week has been whether or not this  
bug affects Macs themselves when one of the Macs is acting as an  
external FireWire drive via Target Disk Mode. We haven't experienced  
such a problem here at MacFixIt, but we have received a few isolated  
reports of Target Disk Mode issues. Reader Brian Sullivan writes:


"Last week I attached a Clamshell iBook to a new 12' PB via Firewire.  
(Held down 'T' while booting the iBook.) The goal was to copy the  
entire iBook hard drive to the new Powerbook. Once the transfer was  
completed successfully, I was unable to unmount/eject the iBook.  
After many attempts, we finally shut down the iBook. The result: the  
data on the iBook hard drive is lost, and the drive needs to be  
reformatted. Fortunately, the transfer worked, so we lost no data.  
But it was a pretty scary."


Unfortunately, with the small number of reports we've received on  
this particular issue, we have no way of knowing if these problems  
are related to the Panther/FireWire bug being discussed. In addition,  
the sequence of events in the above report does not seem to match up  
with those most commonly reported with the "official" Panther/ 
FireWire bug. Finally, we currently don't know what chipset Apple  
uses for the FireWire ports in their systems; it's even possible that  
different chipsets could be used for different models. So, again, we  
recommend simply avoiding restarting your Panther Mac with FireWire  
drives (including Target Disk Mode Macs) connected. (snip)






This is pretty much what happened to me except that I was able to  
unmount my powerbook as I recall.


I know that there were issues with Panther and some firewire drives  
that supposedly have been fixed.  But this corruption happened on my  
G4 Powerbook running Tiger (both computers were running Tiger) I was  
trying to move files to my G5 tower.  My friend was moving files from  
her G4 Tower to her Powerbook running Panther on both.  (in both  
these cases, the powerbooks were in Target Disk Mode)


So, I personally have chosen to use filesharing to move files between  
computers and I reserve Target disk mode for situations where it  
wouldn't be a catastrophe if I needed to wipe a drive and re- 
install...i.e. new installs/clones onto new systems or if I'm going  
to wipe a drive and sell or give away the computer anyway as in  
Dean's case.  Just to be safe.  This was the worst directory  
corruption I have ever gotten on my machine.  And I hadn't run my  
backup yet for that day.   Disk Warrior paid for itself several times  
over that day!


Karen


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[Finale] GPO instrument Choice Question(s)

[Dean M. Estabrook]

What differences in sound (if any) should I expect between, say,   
solo instrument choices,  section instruments, KS instruments  
(whatever that means), and Full String choices?  In other words, I'm  
not sure what to choose for which purposes.  Sounds pretty much like  
me, no?


Dean

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Karen]

On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:18 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/04 / 05:12 PM wrote:



On 04 Aug 2005, at 5:08 PM, Karen wrote:



Unfortunately, yes.  Not sure why and it doesn't always happen.  My
guess is that one should start the machine up in Target Disk mode
first and then attach the firewire cable



Is that even possible?



HW is perfectly hot-swappable, but disconnecting before unmount will
cause directly corruption.  Also earlier Mac, before April 2002 had FW
power serge problem, which is fatal to bus-powered FW, and may ore may
not be related to this issue.

More info on my site:



True...but this problem happened even after the drive was unmounted  
correctly.  I think the corruption happened on startup or while the  
computer was in Target disk mode.



-K

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[A-NO-NE Music]

Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/04 / 05:12 PM wrote:

>On 04 Aug 2005, at 5:08 PM, Karen wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, yes.  Not sure why and it doesn't always happen.  My  
>> guess is that one should start the machine up in Target Disk mode  
>> first and then attach the firewire cable
>
>Is that even possible?

HW is perfectly hot-swappable, but disconnecting before unmount will
cause directly corruption.  Also earlier Mac, before April 2002 had FW
power serge problem, which is fatal to bus-powered FW, and may ore may
not be related to this issue.

More info on my site:



-- 

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Darcy James Argue]

On 04 Aug 2005, at 5:08 PM, Karen wrote:

Unfortunately, yes.  Not sure why and it doesn't always happen.  My  
guess is that one should start the machine up in Target Disk mode  
first and then attach the firewire cable


Is that even possible?

Also, do you have a cite on this problem (MacFixit article, etc)?

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Karen]

On Aug 4, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:



On 04 Aug 2005, at 3:54 PM, Karen wrote:


So I'd just copy the contents of that folder (minus the MakeMusic  
folder, and minus the Address Book folder if you've made any  
changes to the Address Book on your new computer since restoring  
from the backup you made) to your new computer.  (You can use the  
FireWire target mode trick to do that -- hook up the two  
computers using that FireWire cable you bought, and restart the  
old one while holding down the "T" key.  The old computer's HD  
will then show up on your new computer's desktop.





That may indeed do the trick.  However, I have learned the hard  
way that Target disk mode can cause low level directory corruption  
on the machine that is put into target disk mode.  I now prefer to  
use File sharing to transfer files from one machine to another.  A  
pen drive or CD will also work of course if your backups aren't on  
an external storage drive.




Really?  I haven't heard that.  I've never had a problem with FW  
Target Disk Mode.




Unfortunately, yes.  Not sure why and it doesn't always happen.  My  
guess is that one should start the machine up in Target Disk mode  
first and then attach the firewire cable rather than restarting in  
Target Disk mode while the machines are already connected.  But I  
don't know for sure if this is the issue.  I was lucky because disk  
warrior took care of the directory corruption.  But I had to let it  
run for nearly 4 hours.  It looked like the system was hanging up  
when the kernel went to initialize the I/O Kit.A friend of mine  
had this happen too except on hers OF couldn't find BootX.


Anyway, I don't think Dean is planning on using his old iMac  
anymore.  I assume he's going to sell it or donate it, and he'll  
want to wipe the HD on it before doing that anyway.


Then he should be fine.  The directory issue can of course be solved  
by wiping the drive and re-installing the OS.


Take care,

Karen

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Yes, after I'm sure I have all the info I need, I'm wiping it out.   
Should feel strange. Does the $200 to $300 sound about right for the  
G3/600 with 768 Ram?




Dean

On Aug 4, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:




Really?  I haven't heard that.  I've never had a problem with FW  
Target Disk Mode.


Anyway, I don't think Dean is planning on using his old iMac  
anymore.  I assume he's going to sell it or donate it, and he'll  
want to wipe the HD on it before doing that anyway.


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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[David W. Fenton]

On 4 Aug 2005 at 16:26, Andrew Stiller wrote:

> On Aug 4, 2005, at 2:32 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> >  It's a piece of cake to open the measure
> > properties dialog for the measure before it and then just navigate
> > to the next measure
> 
> Believe it or not, I had no idea that one could navigate betw. mm. in
> the Measure Attributes dialog.

That doesn't surprise me at all. There are major pieces of Finale 
functionality that have been around for ages that I have only learned 
recently, too, despite having used Finale since 1991. A perfect 
example that I've mentioned before is being able to clear the content 
of measures in a Mass Edit selection with the backspace key (clear 
key on Mac) -- great shortcut, but I didn't know about it until about 
3 months ago.

I'm sure we all have similar lacunae in what others would consider 
basic program functionality.

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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Andrew Stiller]

On Aug 4, 2005, at 2:32 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


 It's a piece of cake to open the measure
properties dialog for the measure before it and then just navigate to
the next measure


Believe it or not, I had no idea that one could navigate betw. mm. in 
the Measure Attributes dialog.


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Re: [Finale] Minor Bug Confirmation

[Rick Neal]

I just tried it in 2006. It's still there.

Rick


David W. Fenton wrote:

What's happening is that the process of exiting the Speedy frame is 
conflicting with the navigation command, and happening *after* the 
navigation has taken place, consequently moving you back to the place 
where you started.


Is this still a bug in Finale 2006?

 



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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Darcy James Argue]

On 04 Aug 2005, at 3:54 PM, Karen wrote:

So I'd just copy the contents of that folder (minus the MakeMusic  
folder, and minus the Address Book folder if you've made any  
changes to the Address Book on your new computer since restoring  
from the backup you made) to your new computer.  (You can use the  
FireWire target mode trick to do that -- hook up the two computers  
using that FireWire cable you bought, and restart the old one  
while holding down the "T" key.  The old computer's HD will then  
show up on your new computer's desktop.




That may indeed do the trick.  However, I have learned the hard way  
that Target disk mode can cause low level directory corruption on  
the machine that is put into target disk mode.  I now prefer to use  
File sharing to transfer files from one machine to another.  A pen  
drive or CD will also work of course if your backups aren't on an  
external storage drive.


Really?  I haven't heard that.  I've never had a problem with FW  
Target Disk Mode.


Anyway, I don't think Dean is planning on using his old iMac  
anymore.  I assume he's going to sell it or donate it, and he'll want  
to wipe the HD on it before doing that anyway.


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Re: [Finale] Minor Bug Confirmation

[dhbailey]

David W. Fenton wrote:
I'm using WinFin 2003 and would like to check to see if a minor bug 
that exists there still exists in current versions (still shows up in 
the Finale 2005 demo). To reproduce:


1. in scroll view in a piece with more than 3 screens of music 
(horizontally), go to the very end of the piece and in Speedy Entry, 
open the Speedy frame for the last measure.


2. in the measure number navigation control in the lower left, type 
the number of a measure 1 screen or more to the left.


Result: the display jumps to the requested measure (as expected) then 
jumps back to the last measure.


Workaround: manually exit the Speedy frame before typing the target 
measure number.


What's happening is that the process of exiting the Speedy frame is 
conflicting with the navigation command, and happening *after* the 
navigation has taken place, consequently moving you back to the place 
where you started.


Is this still a bug in Finale 2006?



I just checked it and it is the same as you report.  It seems to be that 
way for every screen after the first screen.  You don't need to be in 
the final measure for this behavior to be exhibited, you just need to be 
in the Speedy Entry Frame.


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Re: [Finale] My new computer OT

[Mark D Lew]

On Aug 3, 2005, at 6:26 AM, dhbailey wrote:

What a miserable corporate mentality -- make things proprietary so 
they can charge more, then offer a discount where they still make 
money and then be so parsimonious as to try to dictate how the 
equipment is used under such a purchase.


I'm no fan of student discounts anywhere, but when I voiced an opinion 
about them here about a year ago, it was forcefully pointed out to me 
that the discount has nothing to do with public policy nor rewarding 
those who needing or deserving of financial assistance.  Rather, it is 
a straightforward business practice aimed at increasing profit through 
market share.  Pretty much the same reason that tobacco companies 
target their advertising at young people.


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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Karen]

So I'd just copy the contents of that folder (minus the MakeMusic  
folder, and minus the Address Book folder if you've made any  
changes to the Address Book on your new computer since restoring  
from the backup you made) to your new computer.  (You can use the  
FireWire target mode trick to do that -- hook up the two computers  
using that FireWire cable you bought, and restart the old one while  
holding down the "T" key.  The old computer's HD will then show up  
on your new computer's desktop.


That may indeed do the trick.  However, I have learned the hard way  
that Target disk mode can cause low level directory corruption on the  
machine that is put into target disk mode.  I now prefer to use File  
sharing to transfer files from one machine to another.  A pen drive  
or CD will also work of course if your backups aren't on an external  
storage drive.


Best,

Karen

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Thanks again,  I think I may be getting there.

Dean

On Aug 4, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:



On 04 Aug 2005, at 2:32 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:



On 04/08/05, Dean M. Estabrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I described  yesterday how I happened to install 2006 to Tiger w/out
using the Preinstaller.  I think I've gotten most of my data back in
after applying the backups I made. But, can someone remind me what
things the bug effected, besides ical and Address Book, which I've
now gotten squared away.




As far as I'm aware, the bug removed *everything* from your
~/Library/Application Support folder. (As has perviously been
remarked, "~" refers to your Home folder.) As long as you restore all
of that info from a backup, you should be fine.



Right -- since you *did* run the pre-install on your old computer,  
the Application Support folder should still be there on your old  
iMac.  So I'd just copy the contents of that folder (minus the  
MakeMusic folder, and minus the Address Book folder if you've made  
any changes to the Address Book on your new computer since  
restoring from the backup you made) to your new computer.  (You can  
use the FireWire target mode trick to do that -- hook up the two  
computers using that FireWire cable you bought, and restart the old  
one while holding down the "T" key.  The old computer's HD will  
then show up on your new computer's desktop.


Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Dean M. Estabrook]

thanks.

DEan

On Aug 4, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:


On 04/08/05, Dean M. Estabrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I described  yesterday how I happened to install 2006 to Tiger w/out
using the Preinstaller.  I think I've gotten most of my data back in
after applying the backups I made. But, can someone remind me what
things the bug effected, besides ical and Address Book, which I've
now gotten squared away.



As far as I'm aware, the bug removed *everything* from your
~/Library/Application Support folder. (As has perviously been
remarked, "~" refers to your Home folder.) As long as you restore all
of that info from a backup, you should be fine.

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[Finale] Minor Bug Confirmation

[David W. Fenton]

I'm using WinFin 2003 and would like to check to see if a minor bug 
that exists there still exists in current versions (still shows up in 
the Finale 2005 demo). To reproduce:

1. in scroll view in a piece with more than 3 screens of music 
(horizontally), go to the very end of the piece and in Speedy Entry, 
open the Speedy frame for the last measure.

2. in the measure number navigation control in the lower left, type 
the number of a measure 1 screen or more to the left.

Result: the display jumps to the requested measure (as expected) then 
jumps back to the last measure.

Workaround: manually exit the Speedy frame before typing the target 
measure number.

What's happening is that the process of exiting the Speedy frame is 
conflicting with the navigation command, and happening *after* the 
navigation has taken place, consequently moving you back to the place 
where you started.

Is this still a bug in Finale 2006?

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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[A-NO-NE Music]

Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/04 / 02:41 PM wrote:

>since you *did* run the pre-install on your old computer,  
>the Application Support folder should still be there on your old  
>iMac.  So I'd just copy the contents of that folder


Are these OSX versions the same?
If not, they might be incompatible.
I also don't know if the new version would automatically converts the
database or not since I don't use them, but caution might be in order.


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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Darcy James Argue]

On 04 Aug 2005, at 2:32 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:


On 04/08/05, Dean M. Estabrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I described  yesterday how I happened to install 2006 to Tiger w/out
using the Preinstaller.  I think I've gotten most of my data back in
after applying the backups I made. But, can someone remind me what
things the bug effected, besides ical and Address Book, which I've
now gotten squared away.



As far as I'm aware, the bug removed *everything* from your
~/Library/Application Support folder. (As has perviously been
remarked, "~" refers to your Home folder.) As long as you restore all
of that info from a backup, you should be fine.


Right -- since you *did* run the pre-install on your old computer,  
the Application Support folder should still be there on your old  
iMac.  So I'd just copy the contents of that folder (minus the  
MakeMusic folder, and minus the Address Book folder if you've made  
any changes to the Address Book on your new computer since restoring  
from the backup you made) to your new computer.  (You can use the  
FireWire target mode trick to do that -- hook up the two computers  
using that FireWire cable you bought, and restart the old one while  
holding down the "T" key.  The old computer's HD will then show up on  
your new computer's desktop.


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Re: [Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Brad Beyenhof]

On 04/08/05, Dean M. Estabrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I described  yesterday how I happened to install 2006 to Tiger w/out
> using the Preinstaller.  I think I've gotten most of my data back in
> after applying the backups I made. But, can someone remind me what
> things the bug effected, besides ical and Address Book, which I've
> now gotten squared away.

As far as I'm aware, the bug removed *everything* from your
~/Library/Application Support folder. (As has perviously been
remarked, "~" refers to your Home folder.) As long as you restore all
of that info from a backup, you should be fine.

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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[David W. Fenton]

On 4 Aug 2005 at 11:49, Andrew Stiller wrote:

> On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > Leave it at the end of the last line and set the width to 0. You
> > will have to put hidden rests in all the frames, though.
> 
> Better to set the width to, say, 10 EVPU, so that if you ever want to
> modify it, you can get at it on the page.

What? Why bother with that? It's a piece of cake to open the measure 
properties dialog for the measure before it and then just navigate to 
the next measure (using the spinner control to increment the measure 
number).

> Also, as an alternative to entering hidden rests, you can define a
> staff style with "Display Rests In Empty Measures" turned off, and
> apply it to that one bar.

That would work, too. I developed my habits before staff styles 
existed.

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[Finale] The 2006 installation problem

[Dean M. Estabrook]

I described  yesterday how I happened to install 2006 to Tiger w/out  
using the Preinstaller.  I think I've gotten most of my data back in  
after applying the backups I made. But, can someone remind me what  
things the bug effected, besides ical and Address Book, which I've  
now gotten squared away.


Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] FinMac06/Maestro/Tiger

[Chuck Israels]

Stan,

I think this is what responds to the removal of the file  
 which resides on your hard drive in "Library -  
Caches."  Trash it and restart and that usually solves the font  
conflict.  It's a little mysterious to me, but it has worked for me a  
couple of times.


Chuck


On Aug 4, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Stan Lord wrote:

Just installed  FinMac 06 and the Maestro font is inactive just  
like it was in 2005 when I installed Tiger.


Can anyone remind me of the solution to this?

Seems odd, but Maestro Wide is available!

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Re: [Finale] Fin06 and plug-ins

[Aaron Sherber]

At 12:58 PM 08/04/2005, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
>I'm assuming that Robert's plugins still work in 2006 without any
>firther modification, but his download page still lists the files as
>being compatible with "Finale 2000-2005":

If you look at his Version History page, you'll see that the most 
recent version is Fin06 aware. I think he's just waiting to change 
the text on the download page until a reasonable amount of time has 
passed without Fin06-related bug reports.


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[Finale] Fin06 and plug-ins

[Brad Beyenhof]

I got a note from Tobias's mailing list that he's now released a
2006-compatible version of TGTools (v2.33):
http://www.tgtools.com

I'm assuming that Robert's plugins still work in 2006 without any
firther modification, but his download page still lists the files as
being compatible with "Finale 2000-2005":
http://robertgpatterson.com

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Re: [Finale] FinMac06/Maestro/Tiger

[Darcy James Argue]

On 04 Aug 2005, at 12:26 PM, Stan Lord wrote:

Just installed  FinMac 06 and the Maestro font is inactive just  
like it was in 2005 when I installed Tiger.


Can anyone remind me of the solution to this?


http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&m=111365


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Re: [Finale] FinMac06/Maestro/Tiger

[A-NO-NE Music]

Stan Lord / 2005/08/04 / 12:26 PM wrote:

>Just installed  FinMac 06 and the Maestro font is inactive just like  
>it was in 2005 when I installed Tiger.
>
>Can anyone remind me of the solution to this?


I didn't get this.
In fact the installer was doing font cache cleaning for me.
I had to restart, of course.


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[Finale] FinMac06/Maestro/Tiger

[Stan Lord]

Just installed  FinMac 06 and the Maestro font is inactive just like  
it was in 2005 when I installed Tiger.


Can anyone remind me of the solution to this?

Seems odd, but Maestro Wide is available!

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Re: [Finale] GPO: we have a problem

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Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/04 / 12:01 PM wrote:

>The Ambience plugin is installed when you install Finale 2006.  As  
>far as I know, Hiro's problem isn't that he doesn't have Ambience  
>installed at all, because pretty much everyone who installs Finale  
>2006 already has it.  It's more likely that Hiro has the newest  
>version installed (1.0.5), and the Finale 2006 default files don't  
>recognize that version of Ambience for some reason.

Actually, my problem was because I tried to use Full GPO without
installing FinGPO, which was solved when I ran FinGPO installer. 
However, I have different problems now.

Because I didn't install FinGPO Lib, FinMac2006 keep asking the sample
path so I had to remove FinGPO components,

But NI auth is active at this point so my demo period will run out in 29
days, while I do not wish to use auth count on this machine.  Remember
my problem with GPO auth count, that I lost one because I didn't
deactivate before adding RAM, and NI support is ignoring my emails, so I
am quite nervous with their copy protection.  I know I could auth this
machine and deactivate immediately, but I am not 100% comfortable doing
so since I don't feel NI is that helpful when auth goes south.

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Re: [Finale] GPO: we have a problem

[Johannes Gebauer]

As far as I understood, Hiro didn't want to install FinGPO on that 
particular machine. I assume (though I don#t know) that Ambience is part 
of the FinGPO part of the installation, and therefor didn't get installed.


Johannes

Darcy James Argue schrieb:

Johannes,

The Ambience plugin is installed when you install Finale 2006.  As  far 
as I know, Hiro's problem isn't that he doesn't have Ambience  installed 
at all, because pretty much everyone who installs Finale  2006 already 
has it.  It's more likely that Hiro has the newest  version installed 
(1.0.5), and the Finale 2006 default files don't  recognize that version 
of Ambience for some reason.


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On 04 Aug 2005, at 8:38 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

However, you will have to download Ambience AU from the Garritan  
website if you took part in the group buy, as the CD that includes  
the AU version was not included.


Johannes

Darcy James Argue schrieb:


On 03 Aug 2005, at 12:45 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Here is a bigger problem.  There is no reverb available to GPO  within
FinMac2006.  Of course, GPO reverb was only available to non  Notation
version within GPO Studio, which was VST, not AU!  So, every time  you
try to use Full GPO within FinMac2006, it's gonna error.  Stoopid!


Hiro,
This is a problem with the Fin2006 default file not recognizing  the  
latest version (1.0.5) of the Ambience Reverb plugin.  There  will 
be  a new default files posted to the MakeMusic website soon  that 
solve  this problem.  Meanwhile, if you want reverb, you can  
temporarily  replace v.1.0.5 of Ambience with version 1.0, at  least 
until the new  default files are ready.
Files imported from Finale2005 don't have this problem -- they  have  
no trouble seeing and using Ambience 1.0.5.  So another  solution is  
to import your Fin2005 default file and use it to  replace the  
provided 2006 default file.

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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Brad Beyenhof]

On 04/08/05, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > Leave it at the end of the last line and set the width to 0. You will
> > have to put hidden rests in all the frames, though.
> 
> Better to set the width to, say, 10 EVPU, so that if you ever want to
> modify it, you can get at it on the page.

You can still access a 0-width measure. If you invoke the Measure
Attributes dialog, you can change the number in "Measure Attributes
for Actual Measure" to the number of that final bar and change its
width to something more substantial so you can manipulate it if you
decide later that you must.

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Re: [Finale] GPO: we have a problem

[Darcy James Argue]

Johannes,

The Ambience plugin is installed when you install Finale 2006.  As  
far as I know, Hiro's problem isn't that he doesn't have Ambience  
installed at all, because pretty much everyone who installs Finale  
2006 already has it.  It's more likely that Hiro has the newest  
version installed (1.0.5), and the Finale 2006 default files don't  
recognize that version of Ambience for some reason.


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On 04 Aug 2005, at 8:38 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

However, you will have to download Ambience AU from the Garritan  
website if you took part in the group buy, as the CD that includes  
the AU version was not included.


Johannes

Darcy James Argue schrieb:


On 03 Aug 2005, at 12:45 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

Here is a bigger problem.  There is no reverb available to GPO  
within
FinMac2006.  Of course, GPO reverb was only available to non  
Notation
version within GPO Studio, which was VST, not AU!  So, every time  
you

try to use Full GPO within FinMac2006, it's gonna error.  Stoopid!


Hiro,
This is a problem with the Fin2006 default file not recognizing  
the  latest version (1.0.5) of the Ambience Reverb plugin.  There  
will be  a new default files posted to the MakeMusic website soon  
that solve  this problem.  Meanwhile, if you want reverb, you can  
temporarily  replace v.1.0.5 of Ambience with version 1.0, at  
least until the new  default files are ready.
Files imported from Finale2005 don't have this problem -- they  
have  no trouble seeing and using Ambience 1.0.5.  So another  
solution is  to import your Fin2005 default file and use it to  
replace the  provided 2006 default file.

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Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

[Andrew Stiller]

Chuck Israels / 2005/08/03 / 03:33 PM wrote:


Why do you need to do this?  What's the advantage of chromatic
transposition over key signature transposition?  Is this something
you do when you want both score and parts to be "non key related" -
no key signature on either?  I can certainly understand uses for this.




Yes. You use it wherever a transposing instrument must appear without a 
key signature, notably in non-tonal works and in earlier trp. and hn. 
parts. Also good for pre-20th c. timp. parts, wh. also use no key sig.


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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Andrew Stiller]

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


Leave it at the end of the last line and set the width to 0. You will
have to put hidden rests in all the frames, though.



Better to set the width to, say, 10 EVPU, so that if you ever want to 
modify it, you can get at it on the page.


Also, as an alternative to entering hidden rests, you can define a 
staff style with "Display Rests In Empty Measures" turned off, and 
apply it to that one bar.


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Re: [Finale] OT Euphonium Players On List

[Andrew Stiller]

On Aug 3, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:


My appologies - thought I sent this as private.


Hi Dean,

Is that the compensating one with four front action valves? ...




De nada. It's interesting.

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[Finale] Slur all single grace notes to next note?

[Johannes Gebauer]

Is there a way to automatically add slurs from any single grace note to 
the next? Does TGTools do something like this?


(I have a long piece with many grace notes, and these slurs all need to 
be added now...)


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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Johannes Gebauer]

That measure _should_ be on the same page, only with a width of 0. No 
need to hide anything.


Johannes

Scott Jones schrieb:
Why not just leave the extra measure at the end on the same page and  
use a staff style to HIDE it?  That would keep you from printing 2  
pages out when you only want one.


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On Aug 4, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

Create an extra measure at the end, then reduce its size to 0 after  
spacing the music.


Johannes

Lon Price schrieb:

I'm working on a Haydn sonatina for alto sax and piano, and  there's 
a DC al Coda at the end, with an outgoing key change that  reflects 
the key at the start of the piece.  The only way I could  get this to 
work is to add one measure at the end, and put in the  key change.  
Then, in Page View, I moved that measure to a  separate line and 
forced a page break, creating a "non-printing"  page at the end of 
the piece.  Of course I now have to remember  not to print it.  Is 
there a better way to do this?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Scott Jones]

Why not just leave the extra measure at the end on the same page and  
use a staff style to HIDE it?  That would keep you from printing 2  
pages out when you only want one.


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Create an extra measure at the end, then reduce its size to 0 after  
spacing the music.


Johannes

Lon Price schrieb:

I'm working on a Haydn sonatina for alto sax and piano, and  
there's a DC al Coda at the end, with an outgoing key change that  
reflects the key at the start of the piece.  The only way I could  
get this to work is to add one measure at the end, and put in the  
key change.  Then, in Page View, I moved that measure to a  
separate line and forced a page break, creating a "non-printing"  
page at the end of the piece.  Of course I now have to remember  
not to print it.  Is there a better way to do this?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] GPO: we have a problem

[Johannes Gebauer]

you can download the AU version of Ambience somewhere on the Garritan 
site, but I have forgotten where.


Johannes

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I didn't install FinGPO on my AlBook1.5 since I have Full GPO and I need
to save space, and of couse stoopid iLok crash upset me.

Any way, I copied FinMac2006 file from Dual-2.5GHz and opened it on my
AlBook.  Two major problems.

Sample path is store in the FinMac2006 file(?!) so it asks me the path
upon opening it.  I gave the correct path and save the file, but it
won't remember it so it asks every single time I open the darn file.  Stoopid!

Here is a bigger problem.  There is no reverb available to GPO within
FinMac2006.  Of course, GPO reverb was only available to non Notation
version within GPO Studio, which was VST, not AU!  So, every time you
try to use Full GPO within FinMac2006, it's gonna error.  Stoopid!

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Re: [Finale] GPO: we have a problem

[Johannes Gebauer]

However, you will have to download Ambience AU from the Garritan website 
if you took part in the group buy, as the CD that includes the AU 
version was not included.


Johannes

Darcy James Argue schrieb:


On 03 Aug 2005, at 12:45 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Here is a bigger problem.  There is no reverb available to GPO within
FinMac2006.  Of course, GPO reverb was only available to non Notation
version within GPO Studio, which was VST, not AU!  So, every time you
try to use Full GPO within FinMac2006, it's gonna error.  Stoopid!



Hiro,

This is a problem with the Fin2006 default file not recognizing the  
latest version (1.0.5) of the Ambience Reverb plugin.  There will be  a 
new default files posted to the MakeMusic website soon that solve  this 
problem.  Meanwhile, if you want reverb, you can temporarily  replace 
v.1.0.5 of Ambience with version 1.0, at least until the new  default 
files are ready.


Files imported from Finale2005 don't have this problem -- they have  no 
trouble seeing and using Ambience 1.0.5.  So another solution is  to 
import your Fin2005 default file and use it to replace the  provided 
2006 default file.


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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Johannes Gebauer]

Create an extra measure at the end, then reduce its size to 0 after 
spacing the music.


Johannes

Lon Price schrieb:
I'm working on a Haydn sonatina for alto sax and piano, and there's a DC 
al Coda at the end, with an outgoing key change that reflects the key at 
the start of the piece.  The only way I could get this to work is to add 
one measure at the end, and put in the key change.  Then, in Page View, 
I moved that measure to a separate line and forced a page break, 
creating a "non-printing" page at the end of the piece.  Of course I now 
have to remember not to print it.  Is there a better way to do this?


Thanks,

Lon



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[Finale] Finale Script question

[Johannes Gebauer]

In Finale 2k6 Mac there is a bug with vector PICT graphics (they show 
any print as bitmap and fonts are incorrectly rendered - this is new to 
2k6), making it necessary for me to change quite a large number of files.
I need to replace the PICT graphic with an EPS graphic. Is there a way 
to do this with Finale Script? Can I also at the same time embed that 
graphic in all the files?


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Re: [Finale] Extract nonconsecutive parts

[Tom Eykens]

Lee Actor wrote:


On Jul 11, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Dragos Oltean wrote:

   


I have 2 groups.
group 1 with staff 1, staff 2 and staff 3
group 2 with staff 1 and staff 2

I want to extract in one document only: staff 1 and staff 3 from group
1 and staff 2 from group 2.
It's possible?
 


File | extract parts.
CTRL-click the staff names in the list on the left to (de)select them 
individually. Use the list on the right side ONLY to extract a complete 
group; so you won't need that.


In the group attributes dialog box, at the bottom, there is an option to 
show the bracket/brace even if the group has only one visible staff. You 
may want to use that to visualize the groups like they are in the 
conductor score.


kind regards,
Tom

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[Finale] Bug with Score System Divider plug-in

[Eric Dussault]

Has anyone experienced problems with the Score System Divider plug-in  
in 2006?
I am not able to define left and right adjustments for the dividers.  
It says that it must stay within a range of 1000 and -1000 or  
someting like that. I've tried many values and it doesn't work.  
Unfortunately the default setting don't suit my needs.

Otherwise, Jari's plug-in interface new look is great and very clear!

Éric Dussault



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Re: [Finale] Key change at end of piece

[Lon Price]

On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:34 PM, John Howell wrote:I had to smile at this, since the saxophone was not invented until about 25 years or so after Haydn's death and was based on the keyed bugle and keyed trumpet, which Haydn DID write for.  What did he actually write the sonatina for? I knew someone would catch that.  It's based on Trio V.Lon  Lon Price, Los Angeles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   ___
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