Re: [Finale] I'm back!
welcome back. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises -Original Message- From: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:53 am Subject: [Finale] I'm back! This is to let everybody know I'm back on the list. I had a hearttransplant on 11/14/07, and recovery has been long and difficult. Kallisti Music Press reopened for business a few days ago, including online. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. The Internet and the Democratization of Music Publishing
While the special was lengthy, and it covered a lot of turf in 2 hours, it was essentially showing how the notion of democratization in our daily lives are now because of the Internet. I've written about this before, and I'm curious about any opinions and thoughts about this process. I find it amazing that anyone with a computer, music notation program can essentially publish music at will, and give the big boys a run for their money. I, too, find this an interesting subject. I am not sure just how much of a run for their moneywe self/independent publishers can give the big guys. I have had some success in self publishing with sales of most of my pieces at one time or another. But even with great reviews it still takes a great deal of money to shop yourself your goods. I've been through the direct mail bit as well as advertising in the trades and even had a booth at some conferences. These are very expensive endeavors which, for someone like me, is just entirely too expensive to maintain. It has given me some insight as to why the big guys are so picky. Personally I have thought about and would love to see something like an independent music publishers co-operative which, if large enough, might actually give the big guys a run for their money. In my conversations with music teachers (much of my music is geared to the education level market), they are very receptive to new material and would like to see more variety available to them. So I think, at least for the educational market, the door is ajar. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises http://members.aol.com/njrmuse ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Condolences
John, I was sorry to hear about your loss. Please accept my condolences. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] combining files into a song collection
I have done this using a different program. I didn't find that I could do it very easily in Finale. I have found that using Adobe InDesign is much easier. You have a lot of control with this program. Good Luck. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises www.members.aol.com/njrmuse -Original Message- From: Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 2:44 pm Subject: [Finale] combining files into a song collection Hi all, I am seeking advice before stumbling though the process of combining 7 songs for voice and piano into a collection booklet with consecutive page numbers (and a TOC page). Are there tricks, or working methods that make this go smoothly? I am assuming this can be done elegantly within Finale. TIA, Chuck Is this Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
I don't know if this is what you are looking for, however, I wrote a work back in 1989 based on the model of the DNA molecule as it is spinning. The work, entitled 3.4/20/34 Angstrom, is 6 1/2 minutes long, for string quartet work and is atonal. There are two movements (one for each half of the molecule). The parallel movements between the instruments move from clashing intervals such as major 7ths to octaves and back. Let me know if you would like to take a look at the score. Nick Raspa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Mon, 14 May 2007 8:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] inconsistent barlines
Hello, I am working on a score for full orchestra. The score is complete but when I print it to .pdf, the bar lines for part of the score are darker than other parts. I first noticed it in the perc parts where I reset the staff lines for two of the 5 staves to a 3 line grid. The bar lines for these two staves extend slightly above and below the staff. When I print to pdf, these two barlines are darker than the rest of barline which extends through the entire percussion section. In fact, the barlines for the woodwinds brass are also darker than the strings the other staves of the percussion section. It looks like there was a second barline drawn over the first one for the ww, brass the two perc staves, making them darker than the others. The paper printout doesn't seem to be affected, just the pdf version. Is there a setting that I missed which needs to be adjusted? Nick Raspa AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inconsistent barlines
I printed the first page from the pdf file and, except for the page reduction, the barlines appear to be fine. It seems to be only on screen. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] inconsistent barlines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am working on a score for full orchestra. The score is complete but when I print it to .pdf, the bar lines for part of the score are darker than other parts. I first noticed it in the perc parts where I reset the staff lines for two of the 5 staves to a 3 line grid. The bar lines for these two staves extend slightly above and below the staff. When I print to pdf, these two barlines are darker than the rest of barline which extends through the entire percussion section. In fact, the barlines for the woodwinds brass are also darker than the strings the other staves of the percussion section. It looks like there was a second barline drawn over the first one for the ww, brass the two perc staves, making them darker than the others. The paper printout doesn't seem to be affected, just the pdf version. Is there a setting that I missed which needs to be adjusted? When you print from the PDF are the barlines which are darker on-screen printing fine? I think there's a problem in the screen rendering which may well not appear in print from the same file. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] inconsistent barlines
I tried viewing it in pdf form with the built in OSX preview program, I exported a page in PICT format viewed it with the Preview program and both had the darker lines show up. However, when I viewed the pdf in Acrobat 7 reader, it looked just fine. It appears the problem shows up with the Preview Program. I tried adjusting the barlines and that does seem to have an effect. I went into staff attributes. staff setup and changed the barlines for one of the percussion staves that is affected. I changed the top barline from 24 to -64 and the bottom barline from -24 to 64 (I just picked the number 64 to see what would happen). Now when I view the pdf in the OSX Preview Program, the dark part of the line for that particular staff is significantly reduced. The paper printout is still unaffected. I could probably get it to disappear completely if I enter a large enough number. I suppose I could adjust the barlines enough so that they disappear and are no longer a problem, however, I don't seem to have the sfaff setup option available to me with the standard 5 line notation option selected. So the only barlines it seems I can change would be the ones where I have staff:other selected such as in the percussion staff. That doesn't seem like a real good solution. Is there something, perhaps I missed when setting up the group barlines? My concern is that I make perusal scores available in pdf format, so I don't want these dark lines to show up at all. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] inconsistent barlines On 28-Mar-07, at 4:35 PM, dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am working on a score for full orchestra. The score is complete but when I print it to .pdf, the bar lines for part of the score are darker than other parts. I first noticed it in the perc parts where I reset the staff lines for two of the 5 staves to a 3 line grid. The bar lines for these two staves extend slightly above and below the staff. When I print to pdf, these two barlines are darker than the rest of barline which extends through the entire percussion section. In fact, the barlines for the woodwinds brass are also darker than the strings the other staves of the percussion section. It looks like there was a second barline drawn over the first one for the ww, brass the two perc staves, making them darker than the others. The paper printout doesn't seem to be affected, just the pdf version. Is there a setting that I missed which needs to be adjusted? When you print from the PDF are the barlines which are darker on- screen printing fine? I think there's a problem in the screen rendering which may well not appear in print from the same file. I have seen this very often with PDFs from Windows machines, viewed on my Mac. When I view with Preview (the default viewer in OSX) the some lines appear gray or overdrawn, particularly barlines and beams. When I view with the latest Acrobat Reader, all looks fine. In both cases, though, printout is not affected. Mac-produced PDFs (from the built-in print dialogue) do not seem to exhibit this behaviour at all. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Measure numbering with repeats
Dennis, I've seen it done with 16 and with 33. It's my feeling that you should always count every measure including the repeated measures. I would mark it as measure 33. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [Finale] Measure numbering with repeats Say you have a piece that begins with 16 measures repeated with the last measure different for the second ending. What number does the next measure get 17? 33? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Pdf to potential performer - advice needed
If you have the full acrobat, you can create a pdf with security restrictions. One of the restrictions would be to not allow printing of the document. Other restrictions will keep the end user from changing the document etc. There may be other enhancements to Acrobat since v. 4, which is the one I still have. Hope this helps. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.aol.com/njrmuse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Finale] Pdf to potential performer - advice needed A number of the members on this list have more experience in this area, so I'd greatly appreciate any knowledgeable advice on how to handle the following. An artist has contacted me and requested a score of a yet unpublished composition of mine. This person, previously unknown to me, appears (on line) to be well qualified as a potential performer of the work, and I would like to get the score to him. I seek advice on the following: - Is there an advantage in sending either a pdf or a hard copy? - What options are available, other than placing a copyright notice on the work, to help restrict the use of this score to the stated intent of this artist (consider the piece for performance)? One thought I had was to put some sort of watermark, or the like, on several pages of the score. Has anyone done this? Is there some way to do this in Finale so that it would show up and print out in pdf form? This appears to be a very legitimate request and I have no reason to suspect that this person is being dishonest in any way. I want to be helpful and appreciative of his interest, but I don't want it to seem like I'm ready to give my music away for free, which I'm not. Thanks in advance for any help with this. Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved
I suppose that is possible. I used three different programs to create the various files. I also have graphics, created in a draw program, embedded in some of the Finale documents. I thought, however, that creating a pdf would take care of all that. I have, in the past, created web pages which require that certain documents referenced in the web page are located in the same folder. I didn't realize pdfs work in a similar fashion. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises http://members.aol.com/njrmuse -Original Message- From: Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:57:53 +0200 Subject: Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved On 05.07.2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, the original error message Kinkos received on the first file was unable to locate original file. This sounds like the PDF was referencing another file which you didn't include (or for which the path name was incorrect). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved
The pdf printing problem, at least for me and for the time being, has been resolved. I just returned from my 3rd trip to Kinkos and they were able to open up the pdf file on their windows operating system. In order to resolve the problem, I took the good advice I received from this list and converted all my files first to postscript and then used the distiller to create the pdf for each file from those postscript files. I still assembled the resulting pdfs in acrobat v4 as I did before and the clerk at Kinkos was able to open the file with no problems. Thanks to all that responded to my cry for help. By the way, the original error message Kinkos received on the first file was unable to locate original file. I still don't understand why a product. touted as universal would require such a workaround. The pdf files seem, at least in this case, to act more like a host rather than a stand alone file, however, at least now the problem is solved. Thanks again to all who responded! Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises http://members.aol.com/njrmuse -Original Message- From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:02:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Finale] pdf printing David W. Fenton / 2006/07/05 / 01:50 PM wrote: So, this is a problem with the Mac version of Acrobat? Or the built- in PDF creator in OS X? No, no. As I said long years ago, it was way before OSX. I think I was with Acrobat 4 on both Win and Mac. The problem seems to come when you output to distiller driver from apps. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf printing
Hello to all, I have prepared a music book for printing and decided to do it off-site. I prepared all the music pages in Finale and converted them to pdf. Other pages such as the cover and table of contents, etc. were prepared using other programs, such as Photoshop, and also converted to pdf. Using Adobe Acrobat (v 4) I imported all the pages and assembled them into a pdf booklet. When I took them to Kinkos, they were unable to open the pdf document on their windows based system (I think they use Dell?). However, they were able to open up the book on a Mac they have on site. The Mac, however, is not networked so they cannot print from it. They can only print from the windows based system. The clerk there said he thinks that you have to specify a platform when you save the pdf document. This does not sound right to me. I thought Adove designed the pdf to be available on any platform for reading and printing regardless of the platform you create it on. Am I wrong or am I missing something basic here. Has anyone else encountered this problem? What am I doing wrong? I am using a mac iBook with Finale 2k5, Photoshop, Appleworks and Adobe Acrobat 4.0. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises http://members.aol.com/njrmuse Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf printing
I double checked my file and it does have a pdf extension - which I would have expected since it was created using Adobe Acrobat. The version of Acrobat they were using was Acrobat 7 and I thought that may have something to do with it (since I am using v 4), however, older files (such as v 4) should be accessible by newer versions (just like Finale). I haven't tried saving the files, created in other programs, as EPS or postscript and then converting to pdf. I'll have to give that a try. It just seems odd to me. Once you have a file created in a particular format, as in pdf, it should behave as expected. But maybe I shouldn't be so picky! Thanks. I will try converting the ancillary files to postscript and converting them to pdf before adding them to the book. I wonder if I will have to do the same with the Finale files? I will let you know how I make out. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises http://members.aol.com/njrmuse -Original Message- From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:17:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Finale] pdf printing On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I have prepared a music book for printing and decided to do it off- site. I prepared all the music pages in Finale and converted them to pdf. Other pages such as the cover and table of contents, etc. were prepared using other programs, such as Photoshop, and also converted to pdf. Using Adobe Acrobat (v 4) I imported all the pages and assembled them into a pdf booklet. When I took them to Kinkos, they were unable to open the pdf document on their windows based system (I think they use Dell?). However, they were able to open up the book on a Mac they have on site. The Mac, however, is not networked so they cannot print from it. They can only print from the windows based system. The clerk there said he thinks that you have to specify a platform when you save the pdf document. This does not sound right to me. I thought Adove designed the pdf to be available on any platform for reading and printing regardless of the platform you create it on. Am I wrong or am I missing something basic here. Has anyone else encountered this problem? What am I doing wrong? I am using a mac iBook with Finale 2k5, Photoshop, Appleworks and Adobe Acrobat 4.0. The others' advice is probably good, but there is one other issue I found with a printshop. They had an older version of Adobe Reader that couldn't interpret my Mac OSX 10.3 PDFs correctly. They were fine on the latest version of Acrobat Reader. They were also running Windows 98, which I wasn't expecting either. christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DS al Coda question
Hello Holiday greetings, I am working on some jazz piano charts and I have one which has a two measure coda at the bottom of the page. Currently I have the measures just before the coda separated from the coda with a double bar line. My question: Since many practices which were once common go away with time, is it still common practice to separate the coda section from the rest of the music with blank space? If so, can someone suggest a method of creating the blank space. I have enough room on the page to create a sliver of space and still not crowd the music, however, I really don't want to add another page for two measures. Thanks, Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.aol.com/njrmuse ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DS al Coda question
In a message dated 12/21/05 5:09:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you mean that you want the Coda on the same line as some other music and it is separated by a shim of blank space, insert an extra bar, and apply a staff style to it that has the staff setting set to 0 with full barline. That effectively makes a bar with no lines - which is blank space if you put nothing in it or hide things in it. That is exactly what I meant. I just tried it and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much! Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Forcing Rests
Hello all, I am working on a full orchestral score in 3/4 time. Since I have doubled up instruments on the staves, I occasionally have a measure where one instrument is completely at rest but the second is playing. Since I am using default whole measure rests for the entire piece, I need to use a whole measure rest in the upper part. The program doesn't seem to want to allow me to do that. Can anyone suggest a way that I can get that whole rest in there? I am using Finale 2003a on a MAC. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Forcing Rests
Perhaps that is the root of the problem. I used simple entry to put the rest in and it would simply disappear when I changed to speedy (to make the vertical adjustment). I'll try entering the rest with speedy entry. I do remember receiving that error message a long time ago, in another score, I couldn't figure out why I didn't get that message this time. Guess I'm getting old and feeble minded;-). Thanks, Nick In a message dated 4/6/05 6:36:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In what way does the program not allow it? If you are using Speedy Entry, and you enter a whole rest (7), you get a message along the lines of too many beats, what do you want to do? and you select to ignore it. No problem. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Who are you?
Nick Raspa b: 10/25/55 graduated from The Catholic University of America School of Music - B. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Who are you?
Nick Raspa b: 10/25/55 Lancaster, PA I continually hit the return button by accident on this laptop which sends emails prematurely -- sorry about that folks! B. Mus. - The Catholic University of America School of Music Subsequent to graduation from College, I commuted monthly to NYC for several years to study music composition privately with Frank Retzel, Ph. D. I was the founding conductor of the Audubon Community Orchestra while living in the Philadelphia area. They are currently know as the Valley Forge Symphony Orchestra. I have been writing and arranging music for most of my life -- currently writing mostly for the educational market. I self publish my music and do all my engraving with Finale - I am quite grateful to the members of this list for all the help in working toward getting the printed music to look as professional as possible. I moved to the twin cities about four years ago and currently teach music privately in addition to writing and arranging. I am also active as a board member of the Minnesota Valley Music Teachers Association. I am married to my wonderful wife, Carol, and have two children -- one in college and the other a junior in HS. My hobby is genealogy. Happy New Year Nick Raspa ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT! new CD Burner question
Speaking of CD Burners, can anyone suggest a good CD Burner that can be used with a Mac (OS 9) and SCSI cables (yes I am still living in the dark ages). I have Toast and my old CD Burner gave up the ghost. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Switching computers and data transfer
In a message dated 7/9/04 12:38:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, I aready have a portable Zip 100 Drive (Serial Port Type). Is there an adaptor to turn this unit into a USB port device, or do I, in fact, just need to by a USB device? I don't know if the type of adapter you are looking for exists, however, I needed an adapter for my ColorStyle Writer Printer when I got an IMac and found an ethermac adapter produced by a company called Farallon. I seem to recall they had all kinds of stuff like that, so perhaps you can find what you are looking for there. Good Luck. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
