[Finale] playback in Finale 25

[Brian Oflaherty]

Hi---I can't do playback in Finale 25 using Windows 10. Could it be a Rewire 
issue? I've noticed that the option for Reset Rewire is grayed out. I also have 
Cubase 9. Could there be an incompatibility issue there?
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Lawrence David Eden]

The values I am describing are found on the MIDI keyboard itself.  MIDI 
instruments can be assigned a numeric volume level from 0 to 127 on my keyboard 
(Kawai.) 
As others have mentioned here, you can use the MIXER found in WINDOW Menu to 
assign volume, and panning.

Larry Eden

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:11 AM, martin nickless  wrote:
> 
> Thanks 
> Is that in the finale manual ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 07:49, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
>> 
>> You did not mention if you are using a MIDI or internal speakers, but each 
>> instrument in General MIDI can be assigned a volume via your MIDI keyboard.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there can someone help me 
>>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>>> I’m on windows 10
>>> Finale 25
>>> Thanks
>>> Martin
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[martin nickless]

thanks great martin

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:27 PM Percuszionstudio <
harrojadga...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

> In the Window menu, just under Score Manager. At east that’s where it is
> the Mac so I assume the Windows OS has it in the same place.
>
> > On 3 Mar 2019, at 23:40, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> >
> > Where do I find it .. in score manager ?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 3 Mar 2019, at 06:18, Ryszard Pusz 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm. Not the Mixer?
> >>
> >> Ryszard
> >>
> >>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 7:35 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Score Manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  Hi there can someone help me
>  My volume is not balanced when I use play back
>  The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets
>  Not sure where to find individual volume control
>  I’m on windows 10
>  Finale 25
>  Thanks
>  Martin
>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Percuszionstudio]

In the Window menu, just under Score Manager. At east that’s where it is the 
Mac so I assume the Windows OS has it in the same place.

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 23:40, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Where do I find it .. in score manager ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 06:18, Ryszard Pusz  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. Not the Mixer?
>> 
>> Ryszard
>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 7:35 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Score Manager
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:
 
 
 Hi there can someone help me 
 My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
 The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
 Not sure where to find individual volume control
 I’m on windows 10
 Finale 25
 Thanks
 Martin
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Martin Nickless]

Thanks 
Is that in the finale manual ?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 07:49, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> 
> You did not mention if you are using a MIDI or internal speakers, but each 
> instrument in General MIDI can be assigned a volume via your MIDI keyboard.
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there can someone help me 
>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>> I’m on windows 10
>> Finale 25
>> Thanks
>> Martin
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Martin Nickless]

Where do I find it .. in score manager ?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 06:18, Ryszard Pusz  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Not the Mixer?
> 
> Ryszard
> 
>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 7:35 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>> 
>> Score Manager
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there can someone help me 
>>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>>> I’m on windows 10
>>> Finale 25
>>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Martin Nickless]

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 06:05, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> Score Manager
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there can someone help me 
>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>> I’m on windows 10
>> Finale 25
>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Lawrence David Eden]

You did not mention if you are using a MIDI or internal speakers, but each 
instrument in General MIDI can be assigned a volume via your MIDI keyboard.

Larry

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there can someone help me 
> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
> Not sure where to find individual volume control
> I’m on windows 10
> Finale 25
> Thanks
> Martin
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hmm. Not the Mixer?

Ryszard

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 7:35 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> Score Manager
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi there can someone help me 
>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>> I’m on windows 10
>> Finale 25
>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Haroldo Mauro]

Score Manager




On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:

> 
> Hi there can someone help me 
> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
> Not sure where to find individual volume control
> I’m on windows 10
> Finale 25
> Thanks
> Martin
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[Finale] Playback problem

[Martin Nickless]

Hi there can someone help me 
My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
Not sure where to find individual volume control
I’m on windows 10
Finale 25
Thanks
Martin
Sent from my iPhone
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[Finale] Playback problems with older files

[Eric Fiedler]

Has anyone in the congregation had this problem?
(FinMac25, OS 10.12.6)
We recently opened an old file from 2002 (opened/saved in FinMac 2012, then 
opened/saved in FinMac 25), made some formatting changes, and saved to FinMac 
25. Now we can’t get the file to play back over Midi. In the Midi-setup dialog 
box the midi keyboard has been selected for both input and output (as always), 
but there is still no playback. We have had this problem before, always with 
older files. What are we missing? 
Thanks for your input.
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Re: [Finale] Playback on Third Ending Repeat

[David H. Bailey]

On 1/17/2019 4:52 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:

Hello, I’m trying to set up a repeat with up to a third ending but got muddled 
setting the playback. Any clues?



I think the way you solve your problem depends on which version of 
Finale you're using.


With Finale 2014 or 25 and 26 this is the procedure:

When you place the repeat sign, set it to to "play section 3 times."

Whan you place the 1, 2 ending bracket, edit the ending to place the 
numbers 1, 2 inside the bracket, then set the Target to be a measure #, 
and set that for the measure number of the start of the 3rd ending. 
Check the box "Skip Ending if Ignoring Repeats."


With older versions I think the settings were a bit more complicated.  I 
think I remember that I had to set the repeat sign to "always jump" and 
set the target to measure 1.  If you want only a smaller section 
repeated, then you have to set the target measure to be the number of 
the first measure of the repeat section.


In older versions (I just checked with 2003), when you define the repeat 
sign, you had to set the total passes to how many times you wanted the 
section to repeat as well as the target measure number to jump back to. 
For the ending bracket, in the definition box which opens up when you 
place it, enter the target measure number (i.e. the first number of the 
3rd ending) and then click the check box "Multiple . . ." and in the 
dialog that opens up, place 2 in the first box and 1 in the 2nd box.


That should give you what you want.  For the versions between 2003 and 
2014, or earlier than 2003, you may have to start with the information 
I've just given you and work from there to figure out the solution.


Good luck!

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[Finale] Playback on Third Ending Repeat

[Giovanni Andreani]

Hello, I’m trying to set up a repeat with up to a third ending but got muddled 
setting the playback. Any clues?

Thanks

Giovanni





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[Finale] Playback of glissandi

[Michael Lawlor]

Finale 2014.5

I have just started a work for string quartet that opens with a set of 
six chords, joined together by glissandi.


I entered the notes and listened to the playback and it sounded fine.  I 
used the smart shape tool to add glissandi, but when I tried playback, 
there was no sound.  I deleted the glissandi, tried playback and it 
worked, but the pitches that sounded were all wrong.  I deleted the 
glissandi and tried the pitch bend and then the guitar bend tools.  They 
played back for the first two shifts but not the rest and the pitches 
kept on shifting and I did not like the result, which was very 
disjointed.  I tried the glissando tool again, but there was no sound.


Does anybody know if I am doing something wrong or does it not work?  I 
have tried glissandi in the past with older versions of Finale and they 
worked some of the time but were always problematic.


Regards,

Michael Lawlor

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Re: [Finale] Finale playback problem

[Steven Larsen]

David and Dean,
Thanks for your suggestions. Nothing worked. Finally, I copied the music from 
the affected staves, deleted them, reinstalled them, and pasted the music back. 
Success!
Go figure. 
Every once in a while the dot on my numerical pad stops working (creating 
dotted notes). The period key in the regular keyboard works as a standin. The 
next time I start the program everything is back to normal.
Or not. 
Just some of Finale's inscrutable mysteries.

Steve Larsen

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From: Daykah  
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Steven Larsen 
Cc: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale playback problem

Two possible issues: Check the Score Manager to make sure any potential 
transpositions of a minor second are inexplicably are not set. Also that score 
is Displayed In Concert Pitch (under Document). 

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> On Jun 1, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Steven Larsen  wrote:
> 
> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon when I playback my latest project.
> 
> It’s an orchestral score without key signature. I used the template 
> wizard to create the score, with the usual transposing instruments. 
> When I play back what I’ve entered, the cello and the flute play ½ 
> step higher than written. No problem in clarinets or horns.
> 
> I’ve checked the staff and score manager settings, and they are the 
> same as the other instruments.
> 
> I’m using Garritan Instruments for playback; cellos are set to Cello 
> section KS.
> 
> It’s the latest version of Finale, with current updates.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Larsen
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale playback problem

[Daykah]

Two possible issues: Check the Score Manager to make sure any potential 
transpositions of a minor second are inexplicably are not set. Also that score 
is Displayed In Concert Pitch (under Document). 

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> On Jun 1, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Steven Larsen  wrote:
> 
> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon when I playback my latest project.
> 
> It’s an orchestral score without key signature. I used the template wizard
> to create the score, with the usual transposing instruments. When I play
> back what I’ve entered, the cello and the flute play ½ step higher than
> written. No problem in clarinets or horns. 
> 
> I’ve checked the staff and score manager settings, and they are the same as
> the other instruments.
> 
> I’m using Garritan Instruments for playback; cellos are set to Cello section
> KS.
> 
> It’s the latest version of Finale, with current updates.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Larsen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Finale] Finale playback problem

[David H. Bailey]

On 6/1/2018 12:14 PM, Steven Larsen wrote:

I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon when I playback my latest project.

It’s an orchestral score without key signature. I used the template wizard
to create the score, with the usual transposing instruments. When I play
back what I’ve entered, the cello and the flute play ½ step higher than
written. No problem in clarinets or horns.

I’ve checked the staff and score manager settings, and they are the same as
the other instruments.

I’m using Garritan Instruments for playback; cellos are set to Cello section
KS.

It’s the latest version of Finale, with current updates.

Any ideas?



My first thought is to ask if you have restarted Finale and re-opened 
the project and does the problem still persist?  Have you rebooted your 
computer?  Sometimes those things fix playback problems.


My second thought is to ask if you have entered any expressions at the 
start where you took an existing expression, duplicated it and edited it 
to appear as you wish?  Is it possible that the original expression had 
a playback attribute defined which might cause the problem?


After that I'm out of ideas.


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[Finale] Finale playback problem

[Steven Larsen]

I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon when I playback my latest project.

It’s an orchestral score without key signature. I used the template wizard
to create the score, with the usual transposing instruments. When I play
back what I’ve entered, the cello and the flute play ½ step higher than
written. No problem in clarinets or horns. 

I’ve checked the staff and score manager settings, and they are the same as
the other instruments.

I’m using Garritan Instruments for playback; cellos are set to Cello section
KS.

It’s the latest version of Finale, with current updates.

Any ideas?

 

Steve Larsen

 

 

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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[David H. Bailey]

On 8/31/2017 3:01 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> On Thu, August 31, 2017 2:33 pm, John Hyde wrote:
>>Thanks for the suggestion
> 
> Make sure you're not saving Midi volume data with your controller.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> Go into the Midi tool (not the Midi/Audio menu).
> Dismiss the human playback message that comes up.
>>From the Midi Tool menu, select "Edit Key Velocities".
> Select the entire document (CTL-A on Windows).
>>From the Midi Tool menu, choose "Clear".
> 
> Now try playback.
> 
> If it works, you may have old Midi data in there, or you may have recorded the
> velocities from your Midi keyboard.
> 

Thank you for clarifying that and for pointing to the correct tool for 
remedying the problem if that is indeed it.

I had been trying to say that but had forgotten the procedure using the 
midi tool itself.

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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

On Thu, August 31, 2017 2:33 pm, John Hyde wrote:
>   Thanks for the suggestion

Make sure you're not saving Midi volume data with your controller.

Try this:

Go into the Midi tool (not the Midi/Audio menu).
Dismiss the human playback message that comes up.
>From the Midi Tool menu, select "Edit Key Velocities".
Select the entire document (CTL-A on Windows).
>From the Midi Tool menu, choose "Clear".

Now try playback.

If it works, you may have old Midi data in there, or you may have recorded the
velocities from your Midi keyboard.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[John Hyde]

Dave et al.
  Thanks for the suggestion
All my input is done with a midi controller
The parts sound and stop sounding at unpredictable moments..
   When I first load the file it usually plays all the parts at normal
volume then cuts out so that one might hear parts faintly if turned up all
the way.
   On repeated playing without other tweaks  maybe I get another bar then
it all cuts out (or almost) or one part will continue to play.

There are no expressions at this point except for the tempo  marking. That
one is hard to forget about changing the play back setting since it is
usually playing a tempo that I have already rejected.

   If I scroll ahead and start again I get a few notes then it goes down
like at the beginning.


Just tried

I play with options under the Midi/Audio menu. It gets a bit better at
least one or two parts play after going back and forth  between “play
through Audio unit” / “through MIDI” or under the “Device set up” sub menu
between “MIDI Internal speaker”or “MIDI Through”.
I go between   “Smart synth “and “MIDI”  for the playback option under the
“Midi Setup” sub menu.
Trying to get something working by tweaking things with the volume
controls on the
Studio View option actually did more that I hoped for.

My best  result was just now when I pulled up the file in question  just
now.(other files were doing stuff like this but not so dramatically)
I played all parts for 18 measures and the  Organ part stopped sounding for
the last 4 measures of what I have in so far.

Just tried Documents/Playback and Record Options/ and “reset dynamic
markings”
  I thought that I had started a new file though the project started  in
another one.
 Worked the whole 23 measures!

tried  MIDI Audio/Human Playback /Human playback preferences/ Dynamics/
changed from “automatic” to “continuous controller “ and lost tie audio for
the Sax part about 2 measures in.
  returned it to “automatic” and no change.   Fiddled with levels on Studio
view and can get the sax part sounding for as much as 9 measures. Hard to
see a relationship between what I do and what is working.   Will someone
remind me about what the improvement is between this version
and Finale ’14?
Thanks,
 John


On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:25 AM, David H. Bailey 
wrote:

> On 8/30/2017 9:03 PM, John Hyde wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>   I’m running Finale 25.4.0.155 on a MacBook Pro  running Sierra 10.12.6
>>
>> Upon upgrading I had more that the usual trouble getting the software to
>> see the keyboard but I can kluge around it by opening the file ,them
>> closing it and restarting the computer.
>>
>>   What’s driving me crazy is that on playback the volume will drop
>> down
>> until it is practically or in some cases actually inaudible. I am
>> currently
>> working in a piece for pipe organ, tenor sax and electric guitar.
>> Sometimes the horn and the guitar come through fine but part or all of the
>> organ disappears. At the moment the organ and the sax are coming through
>> fine but the guitar is gone. This is particularly irritating since I am
>> also the guitarist.
>>
>> The volume drop problem goes back at least as far as 2010 when I was
>> working on an old power book.
>>Having the problem to the extremity of “ disappearing audio  parts”
>> me be as recent as my last system upgrade.
>>
>>   Any thoughts?
>>   Thanks,
>>John Hyde
>>
>
> Am I correct in assuming that all other audio from other programs works
> just fine with no dropouts or fading?
>
> I'm confused by your comment about "At the moment the organ and the sax
> are coming through but the guitar is gone.  This is particularly irritating
> since I am also the guitarist."  Does that mean you have recorded the
> guitar part as audio instead of using notation?  Or are you just frustrated
> because you can't hear the part you're supposed to eventually play once the
> piece is finished?
>
> In any event, the first thing I would check would be your use of
> expressions.  Does the disappearing audio happen at the same place in a
> score every time you play it back?  Is there an expression at that point?
> Might it be one that you created by taking an existing expression and
> copying it and then editing the appearance of it but forgetting to also
> edit the playback effect it might have?
>
> If the places where the audio disappears varies from playback to playback
> of the same score then I don't have any suggestion.  If it's always in the
> same spot then it's something in the score.
>
> Did you enter the parts using a midi controller and hyperscribe?
>
> The next place I'd check would be your Human Playback preferences.  Do you
> get the audio drop-outs if you have HP set to none?
>
> In the Preferences dialog is a panel for Human Playback where you can
> select whether or not Finale incorporates the recorded MIDI data.  The
> default, at least in the Windows version, is to have Human Playback ignore
> the recorded MIDI data f

Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[David H. Bailey]

On 8/30/2017 9:03 PM, John Hyde wrote:
> Hi:
>   I’m running Finale 25.4.0.155 on a MacBook Pro  running Sierra 10.12.6
> 
> Upon upgrading I had more that the usual trouble getting the software to
> see the keyboard but I can kluge around it by opening the file ,them
> closing it and restarting the computer.
> 
>   What’s driving me crazy is that on playback the volume will drop down
> until it is practically or in some cases actually inaudible. I am currently
> working in a piece for pipe organ, tenor sax and electric guitar.
> Sometimes the horn and the guitar come through fine but part or all of the
> organ disappears. At the moment the organ and the sax are coming through
> fine but the guitar is gone. This is particularly irritating since I am
> also the guitarist.
> 
> The volume drop problem goes back at least as far as 2010 when I was
> working on an old power book.
>Having the problem to the extremity of “ disappearing audio  parts”
> me be as recent as my last system upgrade.
> 
>   Any thoughts?
>   Thanks,
>John Hyde

Am I correct in assuming that all other audio from other programs works 
just fine with no dropouts or fading?

I'm confused by your comment about "At the moment the organ and the sax 
are coming through but the guitar is gone.  This is particularly 
irritating since I am also the guitarist."  Does that mean you have 
recorded the guitar part as audio instead of using notation?  Or are you 
just frustrated because you can't hear the part you're supposed to 
eventually play once the piece is finished?

In any event, the first thing I would check would be your use of 
expressions.  Does the disappearing audio happen at the same place in a 
score every time you play it back?  Is there an expression at that 
point?  Might it be one that you created by taking an existing 
expression and copying it and then editing the appearance of it but 
forgetting to also edit the playback effect it might have?

If the places where the audio disappears varies from playback to 
playback of the same score then I don't have any suggestion.  If it's 
always in the same spot then it's something in the score.

Did you enter the parts using a midi controller and hyperscribe?

The next place I'd check would be your Human Playback preferences.  Do 
you get the audio drop-outs if you have HP set to none?

In the Preferences dialog is a panel for Human Playback where you can 
select whether or not Finale incorporates the recorded MIDI data.  The 
default, at least in the Windows version, is to have Human Playback 
ignore the recorded MIDI data for Continuous Data, Velociy, Start/Stop 
Time, Tempo.  If any of those have been changed to "Incorporate Data" 
then try changing those.

I hope others chime with advice -- this can be such a frustrating problem!

Good luck!

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[Finale] Playback problem

[John Hyde]

Hi:
 I’m running Finale 25.4.0.155 on a MacBook Pro  running Sierra 10.12.6

Upon upgrading I had more that the usual trouble getting the software to
see the keyboard but I can kluge around it by opening the file ,them
closing it and restarting the computer.

 What’s driving me crazy is that on playback the volume will drop down
until it is practically or in some cases actually inaudible. I am currently
working in a piece for pipe organ, tenor sax and electric guitar.
Sometimes the horn and the guitar come through fine but part or all of the
organ disappears. At the moment the organ and the sax are coming through
fine but the guitar is gone. This is particularly irritating since I am
also the guitarist.

   The volume drop problem goes back at least as far as 2010 when I was
working on an old power book.
  Having the problem to the extremity of “ disappearing audio  parts”
me be as recent as my last system upgrade.

 Any thoughts?
 Thanks,
  John Hyde
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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Don Hart]

I always eventually use an expression to set a tempo, but usually hitting
"stop" in the playback window makes that box available again when it's
grayed out.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Sigurdur Jonsson 
wrote:

> Thanks for this helpful tip.
>
> Diddi
>
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>
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> > On 29. jan. 2017, at 15:00, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre <
> yorkmaster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If your have stopped the playback before it reached the end of the file,
> you cannot change the tempo setting in the playback window. You may start
> the playback at a measure # near the end, let the playback finish itself,
> and then edit the tempo setting before starting a new playback.
> >
> > Klaus
> >
> > Sendt fra min iPad
> >
> >> Den 29. jan. 2017 kl. 12.29 skrev Sigurdur Jonsson <
> diddiste...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Dear friends.
> >>
> >> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback
> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so
> I can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Diddi
> >>
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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Sigurdur Jonsson]

Thanks for this helpful tip.

Diddi

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> On 29. jan. 2017, at 15:00, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre  
> wrote:
> 
> If your have stopped the playback before it reached the end of the file, you 
> cannot change the tempo setting in the playback window. You may start the 
> playback at a measure # near the end, let the playback finish itself, and 
> then edit the tempo setting before starting a new playback.
> 
> Klaus 
> 
> Sendt fra min iPad
> 
>> Den 29. jan. 2017 kl. 12.29 skrev Sigurdur Jonsson :
>> 
>> Dear friends.
>> 
>> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback 
>> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so 
>> I can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Diddi
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

If your have stopped the playback before it reached the end of the file, you 
cannot change the tempo setting in the playback window. You may start the 
playback at a measure # near the end, let the playback finish itself, and then 
edit the tempo setting before starting a new playback.

Klaus 

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 29. jan. 2017 kl. 12.29 skrev Sigurdur Jonsson :
> 
> Dear friends.
> 
> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback 
> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so I 
> can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Diddi
> 

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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Aaron Rabushka]

Which font is it that has a full set of quarter-tone symbols?

ajr

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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Sigurdur Jonsson]

Diddi Cortez.

Please reply to my privat post.

Sorry for the bandwith,

Didd


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> On 29. jan. 2017, at 12:36, Jón Kristinn Cortez  wrote:
> 
> Have you already set the Tempo in Expression?
> 
> Diddi Cortez
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29. jan. 2017, at 11:29, Sigurdur Jonsson  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends.
>> 
>> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback 
>> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so 
>> I can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Diddi
>> 
>> Sigurdur Jonsson
>> 27, Von der Heydt
>> 66115, Saarbrücken
>> Deutschland
>> diddiste...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28. jan. 2017, at 16:38, Raimund Lintzen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try a"hard" redraw, which is strg-shift-D on Windows.
>>> 
>>> If that does'nt help just use the hand-grabber tool and shutter.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> Raimund Lintzen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 28.01.2017 um 15:01 schrieb Allen Cohen:
 I am running 2014.5 on a Mac with El Capitan. One of the most annoying 
 things I find is that, occasionally Finale refuses to display certain 
 things properly--most notably the systems and their handles in Page 
 Layout, and measures chosen by the selection tool (i.e., no highlight 
 color shows up). I can redraw the screen, restart the program, and restart 
 the computer--it usually makes no difference. Some days everything 
 displays perfectly; other days, no matter which documents or what else I 
 do, Finale refuses to display these two things especially. And I can't 
 find anything in either Document or program preferences to alter this. 
 (Not that I'm changing any prefs anyway.)
 
 
 Has anyone else had this problem? Or does anyone have a solution?
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Jón Kristinn Cortez]

Have you already set the Tempo in Expression?

Diddi Cortez



> On 29. jan. 2017, at 11:29, Sigurdur Jonsson  wrote:
> 
> Dear friends.
> 
> Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback 
> Control Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so I 
> can not put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Diddi
> 
> Sigurdur Jonsson
> 27, Von der Heydt
> 66115, Saarbrücken
> Deutschland
> diddiste...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28. jan. 2017, at 16:38, Raimund Lintzen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Try a"hard" redraw, which is strg-shift-D on Windows.
>> 
>> If that does'nt help just use the hand-grabber tool and shutter.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> Raimund Lintzen
>> 
>> 
>> Am 28.01.2017 um 15:01 schrieb Allen Cohen:
>>> I am running 2014.5 on a Mac with El Capitan. One of the most annoying 
>>> things I find is that, occasionally Finale refuses to display certain 
>>> things properly--most notably the systems and their handles in Page Layout, 
>>> and measures chosen by the selection tool (i.e., no highlight color shows 
>>> up). I can redraw the screen, restart the program, and restart the 
>>> computer--it usually makes no difference. Some days everything displays 
>>> perfectly; other days, no matter which documents or what else I do, Finale 
>>> refuses to display these two things especially. And I can't find anything 
>>> in either Document or program preferences to alter this. (Not that I'm 
>>> changing any prefs anyway.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else had this problem? Or does anyone have a solution?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Finale] Playback Control - Tempo grayed out

[Sigurdur Jonsson]

Dear friends.

Can´t find the solution, when trying to set playback tempo in Playback Control 
Window, the box where I should type in the number, is grayed out so I can not 
put anything in there. What am I doing wrong?

TIA,

Diddi

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> On 28. jan. 2017, at 16:38, Raimund Lintzen  
> wrote:
> 
> Try a"hard" redraw, which is strg-shift-D on Windows.
> 
> If that does'nt help just use the hand-grabber tool and shutter.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Greetings
> Raimund Lintzen
> 
> 
> Am 28.01.2017 um 15:01 schrieb Allen Cohen:
>> I am running 2014.5 on a Mac with El Capitan. One of the most annoying 
>> things I find is that, occasionally Finale refuses to display certain things 
>> properly--most notably the systems and their handles in Page Layout, and 
>> measures chosen by the selection tool (i.e., no highlight color shows up). I 
>> can redraw the screen, restart the program, and restart the computer--it 
>> usually makes no difference. Some days everything displays perfectly; other 
>> days, no matter which documents or what else I do, Finale refuses to display 
>> these two things especially. And I can't find anything in either Document or 
>> program preferences to alter this. (Not that I'm changing any prefs anyway.)
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone else had this problem? Or does anyone have a solution?
>> 
>> 
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[Finale] Playback

[Martin Nickless]

Finale2012
Windows

Hi having a problem with playback
It doesn't work at all when I press the space 
Bar also if I highlight a bar it doesn't work then either
However it does work if I click on the start button all be it from bar one
Also can't drag my curser through the bar to play back slowly to check voicings 
Any help would be very grateful
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[Finale] playback weird problem

[Haroldo Mauro]

Hi, I’m transcribing a piano piece for a string quartet. I have six staves. 
Four strings plus a grand staff in the bottom for the piano part, so I can just 
see it while I write the string parts, but both piano staves are muted In the 
Score Manager Window so they don’t sound in the playback. Now... this weird 
playback problem is driving me crazy: every now and then the Viola playback 
volume gets really low in the last written measure--whichever measure is the 
last written and the following one is empty. It gets so low I can’t hear it 
with the other strings. But if I enter a note in the subsequent measure the 
volume gets back to normal. However, to make things worse, even entering notes 
un the next measure I’m able to hear. Any ideas? I’v tried copying everything 
and pasting into a new file, but no luck. I also cleared MIDI data for the 
whole viola part. Thanks for any suggestions.

Harold
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[Finale] playback weird problem

[Haroldo Mauro]

Hi, I’m transcribing a piano piece for a string quartet. I have six staves. 
Four strings plus a grand staff in the bottom for the piano part, so I can just 
see it while I write the string parts, but both piano staves are muted In the 
Score Manager Window so they don’t sound in the playback. Now... this weird 
playback problem is driving me crazy: every now and then the Viola playback 
volume gets really low in the last written measure--whichever measure is the 
last written and the following one is empty. It gets so low I can’t hear it 
with the other strings. But if I enter a note in the subsequent measure the 
volume gets back to normal. However, to make things worse, even entering notes 
un the next measure I’m able to hear. Any ideas? I’v tried copying everything 
and pasting into a new file, but no luck. I also cleared MIDI data for the 
whole viola part. Thanks for any suggestions.

Harold
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Re: [Finale] playback issues

[Chuck Israels]

Thanks, Giovanni,

I found the place where there was an incorrect setting.  There are two places 
under Audio/MIDI device setup where you can choose the output, in the Macs OS 
set up, and in Finale’s Device/ Audio Setup.  I had missed the Finale setting 
that had become reset by the OS upgrade (and was never set correctly in v25).  
Now all is well.  Just one of those things that needs to be set correctly in 
two places instead of one.

Chuck


> On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Giovanni Andreani  
> wrote:
> 
> I found that some file's settings where changed after installing Finale's 
> 2014.5 (couldn't say for the very last version); in a couple of cases I 
> realised changes under the MIDI/AUDIO menu where 'Play Finale Through Audio 
> Units' was switched to 'Play Finale Through MIDI' and vice versa. By 
> re-fiddling with these and other settings under the MIDI/Audio menu I was 
> able to regain the playback functions.
> 
> Giovanni
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [Finale] playback issues

[Giovanni Andreani]

I found that some file's settings where changed after installing Finale's 
2014.5 (couldn't say for the very last version); in a couple of cases I 
realised changes under the MIDI/AUDIO menu where 'Play Finale Through Audio 
Units' was switched to 'Play Finale Through MIDI' and vice versa. By 
re-fiddling with these and other settings under the MIDI/Audio menu I was able 
to regain the playback functions.

Giovanni



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[Finale] playback issues

[Chuck Israels]

Hi all,

Called MM for an answer, but they are closed for a meeting.  Perhaps there’s 
someone who can tell me why Finale playback (Mac, Sierra, Finale v25) will only 
play back through the internal speakers when the device on the USB output is 
selected in the Mac audioMIDI  setup.  This USB output device is working for 
other playback (iTunes), just not for Finale.  When I go back to Finale 2014.5, 
I can’t get any output at all.  (This only since upgrading the OS.  It was 
working fine through the USB output before.)

Help?

Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] Playback Doesn't Stop at End of Piece

[Lawrence]

I have had the same problem. It seems to be the result of a note not being 
stopped - for example, a tie which is not tied to another note or an 
uncancelled accidental. 

Cheers
Lawrence 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 7:12 pm, Michael Dutka  wrote:
> 
> Hi, folks. Having a weird little problem with Finale 10 on Mac.
> 
> The playback always used to stop at the end of every file. For some reason,
> now when it reaches the end of a file, it just continues, counting time,
> until I click the stop button. Not a huge problem, but it's a little
> annoying and I wish it wouldn't.
> 
> I have playback controls set to play from leftmost measure to end of piece.
> Anyone have the same problem? Any suggestions?
> 
> Best,
> Mike
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[Finale] Playback Doesn't Stop at End of Piece

[Michael Dutka]

Hi, folks. Having a weird little problem with Finale 10 on Mac.

The playback always used to stop at the end of every file. For some reason,
now when it reaches the end of a file, it just continues, counting time,
until I click the stop button. Not a huge problem, but it's a little
annoying and I wish it wouldn't.

I have playback controls set to play from leftmost measure to end of piece.
Anyone have the same problem? Any suggestions?

Best,
 Mike
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Re: [Finale] Playback in Speedy

[GERALD BERG]

Thanks Chuck and Darcy.
Best GJB
  From: Chuck Israels 
 To: finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in Speedy
   
The way you describe is the way I have mine set up.  You set the MIDI/AUDIO - 
Device Setup to the MDID channel that has the piano sound assigned to it (not 
Smart MIDI).  I think that will work the way you prefer.  Sometimes, when you 
change pitch in a staff with Speedy from a note that has been already entered, 
the sound of that staff will play, but mostly I think this works the way you’d 
like it.  Hope I understood the question and that this helps.

Chuck


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 3:12 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Sometimes I prefer a piano sound while in Speedy entry mode and  'written' 
> instrument only for when I hit the Spacebar for Playback. Let's say violin 
> for the written instrument.
> Right now while in Speedy entry mode,  inside of the Speedy window frame,  as 
> I manually change a note the violin plays.  I just want plain old piano.
> Is there  a way to accomplish this and still keep the Spacebar for Playback 
> on violin?
> Thanks in advance. GJB
> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback in Speedy

[Darcy James Argue]

MIDI Thru -> Fixed Channel -> [the channel your piano sound is on]

Cheers,

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On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:12 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Sometimes I prefer a piano sound while in Speedy entry mode and  'written' 
> instrument only for when I hit the Spacebar for Playback. Let's say violin 
> for the written instrument.
> Right now while in Speedy entry mode,  inside of the Speedy window frame,  as 
> I manually change a note the violin plays.   I just want plain old piano.
> Is there  a way to accomplish this and still keep the Spacebar for Playback 
> on violin?
> Thanks in advance. GJB
> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback in Speedy

[Chuck Israels]

The way you describe is the way I have mine set up.  You set the MIDI/AUDIO - 
Device Setup to the MDID channel that has the piano sound assigned to it (not 
Smart MIDI).  I think that will work the way you prefer.  Sometimes, when you 
change pitch in a staff with Speedy from a note that has been already entered, 
the sound of that staff will play, but mostly I think this works the way you’d 
like it.  Hope I understood the question and that this helps.

Chuck


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 3:12 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Sometimes I prefer a piano sound while in Speedy entry mode and  'written' 
> instrument only for when I hit the Spacebar for Playback. Let's say violin 
> for the written instrument.
> Right now while in Speedy entry mode,  inside of the Speedy window frame,  as 
> I manually change a note the violin plays.   I just want plain old piano.
> Is there  a way to accomplish this and still keep the Spacebar for Playback 
> on violin?
> Thanks in advance. GJB
> 
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[Finale] Playback in Speedy

[GERALD BERG]

Hi all

Sometimes I prefer a piano sound while in Speedy entry mode and  'written' 
instrument only for when I hit the Spacebar for Playback. Let's say violin for 
the written instrument.
Right now while in Speedy entry mode,  inside of the Speedy window frame,  as I 
manually change a note the violin plays.   I just want plain old piano.
Is there  a way to accomplish this and still keep the Spacebar for Playback on 
violin?
Thanks in advance. GJB

  
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Re: [Finale] playback transposition

[Lawrence Yates]

I think I've misunderstood the problem here - sorry.

Lawrence

On 17 May 2015 at 18:31, Darcy James Argue  wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> If your keyboard has a pitch bend wheel, move it all the way up or down
> and then let it return to zero. (Not sure what causes this glitch, but when
> it happens to me, this is a quick enough solution.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -
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>
> On May 17, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> > Finale is playing back transposed pitches when I enter notes in speedy
> > entry. It's happening in one instrument now (bass), but happened earlier
> in
> > piano, too.
> >
> > FinMac 12c. OS X 10.8.5
> > Garritan Instruments
> >
> > I can solve it by opening the score manager and switching that instrument
> > to SoftSynth and back again.
> >
> > Any idea what causes this? It's a real pain when I'm trying to play back
> a
> > section for note checks!
> >
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Re: [Finale] playback transposition

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Ryan,

If your keyboard has a pitch bend wheel, move it all the way up or down and 
then let it return to zero. (Not sure what causes this glitch, but when it 
happens to me, this is a quick enough solution.)

Cheers,

- DJA
-
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On May 17, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:

> Finale is playing back transposed pitches when I enter notes in speedy
> entry. It's happening in one instrument now (bass), but happened earlier in
> piano, too.
> 
> FinMac 12c. OS X 10.8.5
> Garritan Instruments
> 
> I can solve it by opening the score manager and switching that instrument
> to SoftSynth and back again.
> 
> Any idea what causes this? It's a real pain when I'm trying to play back a
> section for note checks!
> 
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Re: [Finale] playback transposition

[Lawrence]

I didn't know that you could solve it by switching to soft synth - thank you!  
Yes, it's a pain and I've moaned about before. There seems to be no solution. 
I'll try what you've suggested. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 May 2015, at 9:37 am, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> Finale is playing back transposed pitches when I enter notes in speedy
> entry. It's happening in one instrument now (bass), but happened earlier in
> piano, too.
> 
> FinMac 12c. OS X 10.8.5
> Garritan Instruments
> 
> I can solve it by opening the score manager and switching that instrument
> to SoftSynth and back again.
> 
> Any idea what causes this? It's a real pain when I'm trying to play back a
> section for note checks!
> 
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[Finale] playback transposition

[Ryan]

Finale is playing back transposed pitches when I enter notes in speedy
entry. It's happening in one instrument now (bass), but happened earlier in
piano, too.

FinMac 12c. OS X 10.8.5
Garritan Instruments

I can solve it by opening the score manager and switching that instrument
to SoftSynth and back again.

Any idea what causes this? It's a real pain when I'm trying to play back a
section for note checks!

Ryan
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[Finale] playback question

[Don Hart]

Hi everyone,

What is the best way to mute the playback of several measures (only) of a
harp part in an orchestra score?  Would love to show layer 1, and listen
only to a hidden layer 4 in these measures, but so far the solution is
evading me.  Finmac 2011.

Thanks in advance.

Don Hart
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[Finale] playback settings/options

[Don Hart]

Occasionally certain aspects of human playback, normally only realized when
playing via the playback window, are also heard when playback is initiated
by holding the space bar and clicking in the score, a convenient method
requiring no wait for pre-processing.  I'm working in a score now in which
pizzicato and arco are being played properly during space bar/click
playback (normally they are not) and I have no idea why.  Is there
something I've accidentally enabled or is this just a Finale quirk?  Mac2011

Thanks in advance for any insights into this.

Don Hart
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[Finale] Playback Strangeness

[Neal Gittleman]

Greetings…

Using FinMac2014a…

I was working on an orchestral file today, making some changes to glissandos in 
the Harp part.  Some glissandos were showing up strangely in the part when they 
were OK in the score and vice versa, so I decided to extract the Harp part into 
a separate file and tweak the glisses in the extracted part.

Now, when I go to play back the score (from the main file), the only part that 
plays back is the Harp.

Any thoughts about what I did wrong and how I can get everything to play back?  
(Not a BIG deal, since I only use playback for proofreading and the thing is 
done now, but it’s a mess-up I’d like to avoid in the future, if possible!)

Thanks…

Neal Gittleman

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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thanks; will do that.

I also remember it being mentioned on the List, and am sure that I have saved 
the answer, but can't find it now.

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> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:13:52 -0400
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> From: bloke...@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> 
> I had this problem a while ago, but I can't 
> remember the fix.  Call tech support - they 
> sorted it out with me, no problems.  We ran a 
> couple of tests and they had the answer.  I just 
> tried digging through my old emails, but I can't find the relevant ones, 
> sorry.
> 
> Phil.
> 
> At 06:41 PM 4/5/2014, you wrote:
> >Thanks Peter;
> >
> >But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each 
> >instrument on its own channel (1 -4); and - out 
> >of nowhere - it starts playing from some other 
> >spot on top of the current playback #$%^&*!
> >
> >Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
> >
> >sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca
> >NEW!  cel.647-292-4605
> >
> >
> > > From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
> > > To: finale@shsu.edu
> > > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> > >
> > > From: "dr.a.s. weinstangel" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
> > > >
> > > > Never had these problems before:
> > > >
> > > > In the middle of playback some staves get "stuck" and keep holding the
> > > > same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably
> > > > starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
> > >
> > > This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel
> > > and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to
> > > give them a separate channel each.
> > >
> > > > And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord
> > > > in the strings? Really annoying!
> > >
> > > This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help,
> > > sorry.
> > >
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[Phil Buglass]

I had this problem a while ago, but I can't 
remember the fix.  Call tech support - they 
sorted it out with me, no problems.  We ran a 
couple of tests and they had the answer.  I just 
tried digging through my old emails, but I can't find the relevant ones, sorry.

Phil.

At 06:41 PM 4/5/2014, you wrote:
>Thanks Peter;
>
>But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each 
>instrument on its own channel (1 -4); and - out 
>of nowhere - it starts playing from some other 
>spot on top of the current playback #$%^&*!
>
>Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
>
>sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca
>NEW!  cel.647-292-4605
>
>
> > From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
> > To: finale@shsu.edu
> > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> >
> > From: "dr.a.s. weinstangel" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> >
> >
> > > Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
> > >
> > > Never had these problems before:
> > >
> > > In the middle of playback some staves get "stuck" and keep holding the
> > > same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably
> > > starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
> >
> > This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel
> > and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to
> > give them a separate channel each.
> >
> > > And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord
> > > in the strings? Really annoying!
> >
> > This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help,
> > sorry.
> >
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thanks Peter;

But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each instrument on its own channel (1 
-4); and - out of nowhere - it starts playing from some other spot on top of 
the current playback #$%^&*!

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> From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> 
> From: "dr.a.s. weinstangel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
> 
> 
> > Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
> >
> > Never had these problems before:
> >
> > In the middle of playback some staves get "stuck" and keep holding the 
> > same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably 
> > starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
> 
> This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel 
> and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to 
> give them a separate channel each.
> 
> > And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord 
> > in the strings? Really annoying!
> 
> This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help, 
> sorry. 
> 
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[Peter Taylor]

From: "dr.a.s. weinstangel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES


> Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
>
> Never had these problems before:
>
> In the middle of playback some staves get "stuck" and keep holding the 
> same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably 
> starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.

This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel 
and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to 
give them a separate channel each.

> And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord 
> in the strings? Really annoying!

This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help, 
sorry. 


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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit

Never had these problems before:

In the middle of playback some staves get "stuck" and keep holding the same 
note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably starts to play 
from another spot, on top of the current playback.

And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord in the 
strings? Really annoying!

Thanks for your help!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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Re: [Finale] Finale playback help

[Michael Mathew]

Greetings!

I purchased the Berklee School of Music's book on Finale and worked through 
most of the book. The book is updated for Finale 2012 and I picked up a ton of 
different ways of using Finale. There are some excellent suggestions on how to 
work with the percussion section, also, of course.

I have an iMac with the most recent OS and Finale 2012c.

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On Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:48 AM, David Froom  wrote:
 
Hi Scott,

I'd be happy to talk about this with you, but I'm afraid I can't be all that 
helpful, since I don't often write for percussion (and no, I don't do much 
sophisticated stuff bypassing Finale playback).

What I have done is, on the percussion track, play up and down my midi keyboard 
until I hear the sound I want, and then enter that.  It often creates a bad 
notation, but the sound is fine.  A few years ago, the last time I used 
percussion, I did wade into a combination of maps and, I think, staff styles 
(for Finale 2011 -- I didn't upgrade to 2012, which handles some of this 
differently). I don't remember what I did -- maybe it was simply to convince 
Finale to display almost everything as the equivalent of treble-clef-middle-B?  

Beyond this, I think your best bet is to write to finale@shsu.edu (the 
non-finale-sponsored email list), and ask for help there.  There are some 
really good finale people there, some of whom have figured out the percussion 
(though they do complain about it). If you can't post as a non-member, or can 
post but not see responses, let me know, and I'll forward you things.  You may 
also find someone there who will be willing to talk you through this.

The last-ditch option is to have two files, one for playback and one for 
printout.  You could work almost exclusively in the playback file until you are 
ready to print, and then go back and fix the percussion so it looks good.  I 
have done this also.

Hope you are well.  I saw your name pop up in a summary of the Met commissions 
so far. I was sorry to see that they aren't going further with your project (at 
least that's what the article seemed to suggest), but I'm guessing you must 
have other folks lined up, either committed or soon to be?  

All best,
David

On 19 Oct 2013, at 10:59 AM, Scott Wheeler  wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> You probably do much more sophisticated stuff bypassing Finale playback, but 
> I'm having some trouble with some basic percussion stuff, and as usual the 
> Finale documentation reads all techie, telling me about maps when all I want 
> is to hear a clave or a gong. Is there some simple way I can manage this? If 
> by chance you could give me a call I'd be so grateful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Scott
> 978-886-0634
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> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale playback help

[David Froom]

Hi Scott,

I'd be happy to talk about this with you, but I'm afraid I can't be all that 
helpful, since I don't often write for percussion (and no, I don't do much 
sophisticated stuff bypassing Finale playback).

What I have done is, on the percussion track, play up and down my midi keyboard 
until I hear the sound I want, and then enter that.  It often creates a bad 
notation, but the sound is fine.  A few years ago, the last time I used 
percussion, I did wade into a combination of maps and, I think, staff styles 
(for Finale 2011 -- I didn't upgrade to 2012, which handles some of this 
differently). I don't remember what I did -- maybe it was simply to convince 
Finale to display almost everything as the equivalent of treble-clef-middle-B?  

Beyond this, I think your best bet is to write to finale@shsu.edu (the 
non-finale-sponsored email list), and ask for help there.  There are some 
really good finale people there, some of whom have figured out the percussion 
(though they do complain about it). If you can't post as a non-member, or can 
post but not see responses, let me know, and I'll forward you things.  You may 
also find someone there who will be willing to talk you through this.

The last-ditch option is to have two files, one for playback and one for 
printout.  You could work almost exclusively in the playback file until you are 
ready to print, and then go back and fix the percussion so it looks good.  I 
have done this also.

Hope you are well.  I saw your name pop up in a summary of the Met commissions 
so far. I was sorry to see that they aren't going further with your project (at 
least that's what the article seemed to suggest), but I'm guessing you must 
have other folks lined up, either committed or soon to be?  

All best,
David

On 19 Oct 2013, at 10:59 AM, Scott Wheeler  wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> You probably do much more sophisticated stuff bypassing Finale playback, but 
> I'm having some trouble with some basic percussion stuff, and as usual the 
> Finale documentation reads all techie, telling me about maps when all I want 
> is to hear a clave or a gong. Is there some simple way I can manage this? If 
> by chance you could give me a call I'd be so grateful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Scott
> 978-886-0634
> 
> www.scottwheeler.org<http://www.scottwheeler.org>
> scott_whee...@emerson.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 



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[Finale] Playback hangover

[John Witmer]

Every once in a while, I experience what I call playback hangover: a note that 
doesn't cut off at the end of it's alloted time.
I use Finale '12 with midi playback.
Can anyone tell me how to avoid (or correct) this problem?
John Witmer
Clemson Downs
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[Finale] Playback of trills and glissandi

[Dana Friedman]

Hi Folks:

I'm using Speedy Note Entry without a MIDI keyboard (FinMac 2009). 
Any idea how I can trills and glissandi to play back using the 
Kontakt 3 library (or any library, for that matter)?

Thanks,
Dana


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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Lawrence David Eden]

Great story!  You must have started to think you right arm was 
getting shorter



>
>Actually, I used to have a bass trombone that developed a problem in which
>the tuning slide (behind my head) would slip in (making the horn sharp)
>while I was playing!  Drove me crazy until I figured out what was happening!

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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Peter Taylor]

From: "Giovanni Andreani" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower


> It happens with the keyboard turned off as well! It occurs, I've lately 
> discovered, when closing the Playback Controls window and triggering 
> playback with the space bar-mouse click combination. Playback with the 
> Playback Controls window opened is ok. Unwantes transposition although 
> happens on two staves grouped for a synthesizer to play with a trombone 
> timbre (the sound set for these staves)

It definitely sounds like a buried MIDI message to me.  It seems Finale is 
sending a pitchbend or transpositon command on one channel, your keyboard 
will stay in that state until either you send a correcting command or you 
reset it.  Switching the keyboard on and off resets it, or it can be done by 
sending a software GM reset command, but sadly there is no easy way to do 
this with Finale.

Do you have "Chase from First Measure" selected in the box against "Dynamics 
and Markings" in the Playback Settings window?  If you don't, then playing 
back with the spacebar will cause Finale to use the current pitch setting it 
last read.  Playing back from the Play control window will normally start at 
the beginning anyway.

Can you identify the measure or approximate place where the transposition 
occurs?  First check any expressions there that might have a playback effect 
causing this.  It's easy to use an expression that was set previously, maybe 
even in a different file.  If that doesn't cure it, with the MIDI tool 
select the measure(s) and press the backspace key.  This will delete all 
MIDI data, visible or not.  Remember to reset the keyboard before testing 
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Phil Buglass]

As a long-time trombone player, serving in a 
(British) army band during the 70s and early 80s, 
I was wounded and unable to play for some 
time.   Not wanting me to go to waste, they had 
me on percussion, mainly tymps - I couldn't play 
drums as it required coordinating 3 things at 
once...  I could do both hands, but if I started 
trying to use my foot too, everything went 
rapidly sideways...Anyway, while rehearsing 
for a very important concert (a Royal visit...), 
I had to finish off one piece with a dramatic 
flourish and a nice forte-piano crescendo 
roll.  While playing this (fortunately during a 
rehearsal), the pedal mechanism on the tymp 
started to slip, giving me a really interesting glissando.

I thought it was good, but the boss didn't agree...

Phil.

At 12:49 AM 5/10/2013, you wrote:
>Pitch going flat on the trombone patch?   I can help you with that!  Make
>sure you've got the slide lock on!
>
>Actually, I used to have a bass trombone that developed a problem in which
>the tuning slide (behind my head) would slip in (making the horn sharp)
>while I was playing!  Drove me crazy until I figured out what was happening!
>
>Raymond Horton
>Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
>Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
>Composer, Arranger
>VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
>
>
>On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Giovanni Andreani  > wrote:
>
> > It happens with the keyboard turned off as well! It occurs, I've lately
> > discovered, when closing the Playback Controls window and triggering
> > playback with the space bar-mouse click combination. Playback with the
> > Playback Controls window opened is ok. Unwantes transposition although
> > happens on two staves grouped for a synthesizer to play with a trombone
> > timbre (the sound set for these staves)
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Giovanni Andreani
> >
> > www.giovanniandreani.eu
> >
> > >Is it possible you have an expression set to pitch bend? Like a scoop or
> > >a fall, or maybe a gliss marking that isn't resetting itself like it
> > should?
> > >
> > >Or if it is only one sound source, check the pitch wheel. Sometimes my
> > >cat walks on my keyboard pitch wheel, causing me all kinds of grief
> > >until I figure it out.
> > >
> > >Christopher
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu May 9, at ThursdayMay 9 9:00 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
> > >
> > >> Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
> > >> Edition')   :->
> > >>
> > >>> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar,
> > weird
> > >> behavior Finale
> > >>> is adopting.
> > >>> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they
> > should be
> > >>> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
> > >>> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
> > >>> Any clues?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you
> > >>> Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

Unfortunately it happens even if I change instruments; I tried to reassign new 
instruments and selected a new channel too, but the problem still lays there. 
Probably there's something corrupted as some of you have suggested; I'll 
probably rebuild a new document and copy paste just the notes hoping this 
workaround 'll work but, nevertheless, I'd like to come to an understanding of 
the problem.




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu

>Actually, I used to have a bass trombone that developed a problem in which
>the tuning slide (behind my head) would slip in (making the horn sharp)
>while I was playing!  Drove me crazy until I figured out what was happening!



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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Raymond Horton]

Pitch going flat on the trombone patch?   I can help you with that!  Make
sure you've got the slide lock on!

Actually, I used to have a bass trombone that developed a problem in which
the tuning slide (behind my head) would slip in (making the horn sharp)
while I was playing!  Drove me crazy until I figured out what was happening!

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Giovanni Andreani  wrote:

> It happens with the keyboard turned off as well! It occurs, I've lately
> discovered, when closing the Playback Controls window and triggering
> playback with the space bar-mouse click combination. Playback with the
> Playback Controls window opened is ok. Unwantes transposition although
> happens on two staves grouped for a synthesizer to play with a trombone
> timbre (the sound set for these staves)
>
>
> 
>
> Giovanni Andreani
>
> www.giovanniandreani.eu
>
> >Is it possible you have an expression set to pitch bend? Like a scoop or
> >a fall, or maybe a gliss marking that isn't resetting itself like it
> should?
> >
> >Or if it is only one sound source, check the pitch wheel. Sometimes my
> >cat walks on my keyboard pitch wheel, causing me all kinds of grief
> >until I figure it out.
> >
> >Christopher
> >
> >
> >On Thu May 9, at ThursdayMay 9 9:00 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
> >
> >> Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
> >> Edition')   :->
> >>
> >>> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar,
> weird
> >> behavior Finale
> >>> is adopting.
> >>> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they
> should be
> >>> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
> >>> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
> >>> Any clues?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>> Giovanni
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Vosbein, Terry]

I have found that if I am using pitch bend for glissandi, and I stop playback 
in the middle of a glissandi, the pitch bend gets stuck and that track plays 
back lower until I muck around with it.




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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Chuck Israels]

I used to have this problem form time to time and found that quitting and 
restarting Finale (which reloaded the instruments) often cured it.  You might 
also try Reassign Playback Sounds from the MIDI/Audio menu.  If that doesn't 
work, you may have a corrupted preference file.  Deleting that and rebuilding 
your preferences would be the next thing I'd try, if those things didn't work.

Chuck


On May 9, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Giovanni Andreani  wrote:

> It happens with the keyboard turned off as well! It occurs, I've lately 
> discovered, when closing the Playback Controls window and triggering playback 
> with the space bar-mouse click combination. Playback with the Playback 
> Controls window opened is ok. Unwantes transposition although happens on two 
> staves grouped for a synthesizer to play with a trombone timbre (the sound 
> set for these staves)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Giovanni Andreani
> 
> www.giovanniandreani.eu
> 
>> Is it possible you have an expression set to pitch bend? Like a scoop or
>> a fall, or maybe a gliss marking that isn't resetting itself like it should?
>> 
>> Or if it is only one sound source, check the pitch wheel. Sometimes my
>> cat walks on my keyboard pitch wheel, causing me all kinds of grief
>> until I figure it out.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu May 9, at ThursdayMay 9 9:00 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
>> 
>>> Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
>>> Edition')   :->
>>> 
 Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird
>>> behavior Finale
 is adopting.
 I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be
 performed and no transposition has been set on them.
 Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
 Any clues?
 
 Thank you
 Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

I did upgrade from the Monteverdi to the Howard Shore (Finale 2011), but, if 
necessary, I'll go for the next step...




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu

>Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
>Edition')   :->
>
>> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird
>behavior Finale
>> is adopting.
>> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be
>> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>> Any clues?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Giovanni
>
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

It happens with the keyboard turned off as well! It occurs, I've lately 
discovered, when closing the Playback Controls window and triggering playback 
with the space bar-mouse click combination. Playback with the Playback Controls 
window opened is ok. Unwantes transposition although happens on two staves 
grouped for a synthesizer to play with a trombone timbre (the sound set for 
these staves)




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu

>Is it possible you have an expression set to pitch bend? Like a scoop or
>a fall, or maybe a gliss marking that isn't resetting itself like it should?
>
>Or if it is only one sound source, check the pitch wheel. Sometimes my
>cat walks on my keyboard pitch wheel, causing me all kinds of grief
>until I figure it out.
>
>Christopher
>
>
>On Thu May 9, at ThursdayMay 9 9:00 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
>
>> Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
>> Edition')   :->
>> 
>>> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird
>> behavior Finale
>>> is adopting.
>>> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be
>>> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>>> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>>> Any clues?
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Giovanni
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Christopher Smith]

Is it possible you have an expression set to pitch bend? Like a scoop or a 
fall, or maybe a gliss marking that isn't resetting itself like it should?

Or if it is only one sound source, check the pitch wheel. Sometimes my cat 
walks on my keyboard pitch wheel, causing me all kinds of grief until I figure 
it out.

Christopher


On Thu May 9, at ThursdayMay 9 9:00 AM, Richard Yates wrote:

> Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
> Edition')   :->
> 
>> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird
> behavior Finale
>> is adopting.
>> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be
>> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>> Any clues?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Richard Yates]

Probably time to upgrade from that 1720 version of Finale (the 'Handel
Edition')   :->

> Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird
behavior Finale
> is adopting.
> I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be
> performed and no transposition has been set on them.
> Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
> Any clues?
> 
> Thank you
> Giovanni



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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

I've answered back to early!
The keyboard is turned off and all of a sudden finale is playing back with some 
instruments transposed a semitone lower.
My last action, before malfunction reappeared, was closing the Playback 
Controls window and starting playback with space-click!
Reeboting my Mac now...




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu

>I'm connected to a Yanaha P-90 stage piano via an M-Audio card. I don't
>have a factory reset (at least I don't think so) but I tried turning the
>keyboard off and playback turned out correctly.
>I've been focusing on Finale but I now realize the problem is elsewhere!
>
>Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
>
>Giovanni
>
>
>
>
>Giovanni Andreani
>
>www.giovanniandreani.eu
>
>>Are you using a MIDI device for playback?  If YES, try doing a check 
>>of each channel's settings.  My MIDI (Kawai K11) has an option for 
>>factory reset
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, 
>>>weird behavior Finale is adopting.
>>>I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they 
>>>should be performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>>>Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>>>Any clues?
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>>Giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Giovanni Andreani
>>>
>>>www.giovanniandreani.eu
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

I'm connected to a Yanaha P-90 stage piano via an M-Audio card. I don't have a 
factory reset (at least I don't think so) but I tried turning the keyboard off 
and playback turned out correctly.
I've been focusing on Finale but I now realize the problem is elsewhere!

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction

Giovanni




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu

>Are you using a MIDI device for playback?  If YES, try doing a check 
>of each channel's settings.  My MIDI (Kawai K11) has an option for 
>factory reset
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>
>>Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, 
>>weird behavior Finale is adopting.
>>I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they 
>>should be performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>>Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>>Any clues?
>>
>>Thank you
>>Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Giovanni Andreani
>>
>>www.giovanniandreani.eu
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Lawrence David Eden]

Are you using a MIDI device for playback?  If YES, try doing a check 
of each channel's settings.  My MIDI (Kawai K11) has an option for 
factory reset

Larry




>Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, 
>weird behavior Finale is adopting.
>I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they 
>should be performed and no transposition has been set on them.
>Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
>Any clues?
>
>Thank you
>Giovanni
>
>
>
>
>Giovanni Andreani
>
>www.giovanniandreani.eu
>
>
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[Finale] Playback Weird Behavior Playing a Semitone Lower

[Giovanni Andreani]

Hello, I'm in a muddle trying to find out how to avoid a peculiar, weird 
behavior Finale is adopting.
I've got some staves playing back a semitone lower than how they should be 
performed and no transposition has been set on them.
Quitting and reopening finale doesn't fix the problem.
Any clues?

Thank you
Giovanni 




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Re: [Finale] Playback bug

[Haroldo Mauro]

It just happened again now as I'm working on a score. It turned out to be a 
stuck space bar, since it works fine after I hit the space bar a couple of 
times. However, it happens EVERY time I switch from Playback to editing the 
score. A real nuisance!
>Thanks
Harold


On 29/12/2012, at 18:18, J D Thomas wrote:

> I have had this happen many, many times.  It's directly related to the stuck 
> key metatool bug that has been long, long-standing.  A complete Mac restart 
> is the one sure way to relieve it, but if you do use metatools frequently, 
> you will most likely encounter it again.  I sure do.
> 
> Short of a reboot, try running your fingers across the QWERTY keys several 
> times and, if you have one, the numeric keypad.  This is a trick I learned 
> here on this board, and it has worked for me about 90% of the time.
> 
> Let us know how you make out.
> 
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote:
> 
>> How do I get rid of this playback bug:
>> 
>> In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
>> I click STOP = Finale stops playing
>> On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click 
>> the score = Finale resumes playback!!
>> 
>> No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback 
>> whenever I click the score.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback bug: Finale Digest, Vol 113, Issue 27

[Christopher Smith]

Are you sure you're using a tie, and not a slur? Slurs will be restruck; ties 
won't.

The only time I get a tie restriking is when I tie to a note in another layer.

Christopher


On Mon Dec 31, at MondayDec 31 2:01 PM, William Sinclair wrote:

> 
> I have also noticed that when you tie a note across a measure line, it plays 
> the note TWICE.
> I pointed this out before several times. Why don't they fix this?
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[Finale] Playback bug: Finale Digest, Vol 113, Issue 27

[William Sinclair]

I have also noticed that when you tie a note across a measure line, it plays 
the note TWICE.
I pointed this out before several times. Why don't they fix this?
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Re: [Finale] Playback bug

[Haroldo Mauro]

Thank you. For the first time in many many years I'll take a trip for a week 
with NO computer, NO mobile internet. But Ill check it out when I resume 
activities and let you know.
Harold


On 29/12/2012, at 18:18, J D Thomas wrote:

> I have had this happen many, many times.  It's directly related to the stuck 
> key metatool bug that has been long, long-standing.  A complete Mac restart 
> is the one sure way to relieve it, but if you do use metatools frequently, 
> you will most likely encounter it again.  I sure do.
> 
> Short of a reboot, try running your fingers across the QWERTY keys several 
> times and, if you have one, the numeric keypad.  This is a trick I learned 
> here on this board, and it has worked for me about 90% of the time.
> 
> Let us know how you make out.
> 
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote:
> 
>> How do I get rid of this playback bug:
>> 
>> In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
>> I click STOP = Finale stops playing
>> On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click 
>> the score = Finale resumes playback!!
>> 
>> No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback 
>> whenever I click the score.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback bug

[J D Thomas]

I have had this happen many, many times.  It's directly related to the stuck 
key metatool bug that has been long, long-standing.  A complete Mac restart is 
the one sure way to relieve it, but if you do use metatools frequently, you 
will most likely encounter it again.  I sure do.

Short of a reboot, try running your fingers across the QWERTY keys several 
times and, if you have one, the numeric keypad.  This is a trick I learned here 
on this board, and it has worked for me about 90% of the time.

Let us know how you make out.

J D Thomas
ThomaStudios


On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote:

> How do I get rid of this playback bug:
> 
> In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
> I click STOP = Finale stops playing
> On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click 
> the score = Finale resumes playback!!
> 
> No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback 
> whenever I click the score.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback bug

[Haroldo Mauro]

Thanks. I'll check for for stuck space bar next time.
Harold


On 29/12/2012, at 17:20, Lawrence Yates wrote:

> I can't repeat this effect - unless I hold down the spacebar as though it's
> stuck, then I get exactly what you describe.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lawrence
> 
> 
> On 29 December 2012 17:54, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
>> How do I get rid of this playback bug:
>> 
>> In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
>> I click STOP = Finale stops playing
>> On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click
>> the score = Finale resumes playback!!
>> 
>> No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback
>> whenever I click the score.
>> 
>> Harold
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Re: [Finale] Playback bug

[Lawrence Yates]

I can't repeat this effect - unless I hold down the spacebar as though it's
stuck, then I get exactly what you describe.

Cheers,

Lawrence


On 29 December 2012 17:54, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:

> How do I get rid of this playback bug:
>
> In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
> I click STOP = Finale stops playing
> On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click
> the score = Finale resumes playback!!
>
> No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback
> whenever I click the score.
>
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[Finale] Playback bug

[Haroldo Mauro]

How do I get rid of this playback bug:

In the Playback window I click PLAY = Finale plays the score
I click STOP = Finale stops playing
On the tool pallete I choose the Speedy Entry or ANY other tool then click the 
score = Finale resumes playback!!

No matter how many times I click back and forth, Finale resumes playback 
whenever I click the score.

Harold
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Re: [Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat

[SN jef chippewa]

>Teasing is bad habit, so please tell us.

ha! ok.

very simple, another trick with hidden tuplets, this way the grace 
note appears on the beat, the "real" note right after.  2 tuplets are 
needed, as an example, an eighth note grace and a quarter real note.

tuplet 1 -- 1  8th : 1  64th (or 32nd, depending on your spacing needs)
tuplet 2 -- 17:16  64ths

http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/grace_onbeat.pdf

resize grace to your default settings (i use 80, find it much better 
looking that 75%), add slash (shape expression) if needed

some fussing, but you could do it once in a scratch staff and 
copy/edit as needed.

advantages:
- works with spacing
- works with playback with no fussing
- drag-enclose assign articulations works on this grace note
- contrary to normal grace notes, the H position of the grace is not 
fixed in linked parts (great for transposing instruments)

disadvantages:
- little bit of fussing to set the 1st example up
- you may still need to adjust the beat chart if you find there is 
too much space before beat 2 (which will be lost if you again run 
music spacing)
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Re: [Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Teasing is bad habit, so please tell us.

Klaus



>
> From: SN jef chippewa 
>To: finale@shsu.edu 
>Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 3:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat
> 
>
>if you also want the grace note to appear on the beat and not before, 
>i have a trick...
>
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Re: [Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat

[SN jef chippewa]

if you also want the grace note to appear on the beat and not before, 
i have a trick...

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Re: [Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat

[Michael Lawlor]

Go to Document options - grace notes - set grace note duration to zero.  It
will happen on the beat with the main note.  I do not believe it would be
possible to delay the main note only when preceded by an acciacatura.
Regards,
Michael Lawlor
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Is there a simple way to tell Finale to play all grace notes on the beat
(instead of just before), or is that beyond the capabilities?
Finale 2008

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[Finale] playback of grace notes on the beat

[toro 455]

Is there a simple way to tell Finale to play all grace notes on the beat
(instead of just before), or is that beyond the capabilities?
Finale 2008
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[Finale] Playback on Kontakt question; Accidentals Fixed

[Dana Friedman]

Hi Folks:

I got rid of the problems by cutting and pasting into a new document.

Thanks!
Dana

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[Finale] Playback on Kontakt question; Accidentals

[Dana Friedman]

Hi Folks:

This is only partially related to Finale, but there are two strange 
playback things going on. Ever since I set up Human Playback for one 
piece, some accidentals don't play back as written (instead, they 
play diatonically, as if there were no accidental marking). It's a 
guitar staff. There is transposition, and it's transposed 1 octave up 
chromatically. I erased and re-entered one of the accidentals, and it 
didn't help. It played back a C natural when C# is clearly there.

Also, the original patch has a ton of reverb added to it. To my 
knowledge, I didn't do anything to make that happen. I removed Human 
Playback, and the additional silliness with the patch /sample is 
still there. I removed the patch, changed instruments, did everything 
I could think of, and the patch with reverb is still there.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Dana

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Re: [Finale] Playback ignores tie marks across measure lines.

[David H. Bailey]

On 5/1/2012 12:44 PM, bill sinclair wrote:
>
>
> This seems to occur more often when one is EDITING the score and places tie 
> marks across bar lines.
>
> It treats the notes as sepaarate entities.
>
> Just wondering why no one wants to fix this.
>


Are you sure you've created real ties and not just placed slurs which 
look like ties?  I've never had a problem with Finale not holding the 
notes when they have been placed as real ties.


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[bill sinclair]

This seems to occur more often when one is EDITING the score and places tie 
marks across bar lines.

It treats the notes as sepaarate entities.

Just wondering why no one wants to fix this.

bill sinclair
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Re: [Finale] Playback weirdness

[Don Hart]

Make sure the piano left hand and right hand staves are using different
channels. - Don Hart
On Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM, "Linda Worsley"  wrote:

> I rarely use MIDI any more for anything, mostly just listen in my head to
> what I write down.  I do check for wrong notes, usually by playing sections
> (in orchestral scores) or isolating lines to catch the errors.  I'm
> currently using latest Macbook Pro with Finale 2010.
>
> Here's my problem: lately I've been working on finale scores that are not
> my own, and when I play them back (most are just piano parts with a few
> solo voices) and it's only playing back a a small part of the full
> notation.  I know there are limitations on some MIDI instruments, but
> piano???  Is there a setting that has caused this?  Where did I go wrong?
>  Anyone out there with help will be very appreciated!
>
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[Finale] Playback weirdness

[Linda Worsley]

I rarely use MIDI any more for anything, mostly just listen in my head to
what I write down.  I do check for wrong notes, usually by playing sections
(in orchestral scores) or isolating lines to catch the errors.  I'm
currently using latest Macbook Pro with Finale 2010.

Here's my problem: lately I've been working on finale scores that are not
my own, and when I play them back (most are just piano parts with a few
solo voices) and it's only playing back a a small part of the full
notation.  I know there are limitations on some MIDI instruments, but
piano???  Is there a setting that has caused this?  Where did I go wrong?
 Anyone out there with help will be very appreciated!

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] Playback timing issue

[David Froom]

OK, here is a new one for me.

Fin Mac 2011, OS 10.6.8.

When I play back my current file, the time reported while running (in seconds) 
is correct, but when I stop, or when I simply type in a measure to start 
playback, the timing is off.  There are number of tempo changes, some done with 
executable shapes that come with the "ritard," some longer ritards done with JW 
Tempo, and, of course, subito changes done with a tempo mark that reads the 
number (q = 60, for example, gives a sudden change to quarter = 60).

The strangeness starts just before 4 minutes, just as I reach an accel to q = 
60.  Just before the accel (m. 62), I'm at 3:48.  At the end of the accel (m. 
66), the reported stopped time is 3:56, and the time reported while running is 
4:01.  There have been three tempo changes (with rits) before then, but no 
problems.  And then it gets very strange, where the reported stopped time 
advances very slowly from 4 minutes, but the running time is accurate.  For 
example, in my m. 73, the running time reported is 3:59, but the time reported 
while playing is 4:18.  The spread between running time and reported time while 
stopped increases.  At m. 129, for example, stopped time is reported as 5:22, 
but running time is 6:33.

When I use the Utilities/Check Notation/Check Elapsed time on a selected 
measure, it reports the incorrect stopped time.  

I know the running time is accurate, and the notation and playback are just 
fine.  This is just a minor annoyance, but an annoyance nevertheless, 
especially for someone like me who likes to know often and regularly the exact 
minutes and seconds at any spot in my piece.

Why oh why can't Finale do tempo changes in a precise way in a box in which you 
can type numbers?  I've tried working with the details of executable shapes, 
and have found this not only confusing, but, when I take the time and trouble 
to figure it out, it works inconsistently and unpredictably.

Any ideas?  The Check Elapsed time also reports on the time of a section, which 
is strange, since I have no repeat bars.  Could that be a crucial hint?

Thank you,
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Re: [Finale] playback of 16ths that swing

[Don Hart]

Ahh, that's better.  :)  Thanks, Jim! - Don

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Williams, Jim <
jwilli...@franklincollege.edu> wrote:

> Let the timesig be 8-8, but set to display 4/4.
> Then the 16ths can swing. I seem to recall doing that in the past; I am
> not near finale now, but I seem to recall doing that in the situation you
> describe.
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
>
> On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:25 AM, "Don Hart"  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Finmac 2011. There doesn't appear to be a means to have 16ths swing
> during
> > playback via human playback.  Is this indeed correct?  So, am I back to
> > using "alter feel" in the midi tool for this, or is there a better way?
> > Anyone know the settings involved to accomplish this with the midi tool?
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
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Re: [Finale] playback of 16ths that swing

[Williams, Jim]

Let the timesig be 8-8, but set to display 4/4.
Then the 16ths can swing. I seem to recall doing that in the past; I am not 
near finale now, but I seem to recall doing that in the situation you describe.
Jim

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:25 AM, "Don Hart"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Finmac 2011. There doesn't appear to be a means to have 16ths swing during
> playback via human playback.  Is this indeed correct?  So, am I back to
> using "alter feel" in the midi tool for this, or is there a better way?
> Anyone know the settings involved to accomplish this with the midi tool?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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[Finale] playback of 16ths that swing

[Don Hart]

Hi everyone,

Finmac 2011. There doesn't appear to be a means to have 16ths swing during
playback via human playback.  Is this indeed correct?  So, am I back to
using "alter feel" in the midi tool for this, or is there a better way?
Anyone know the settings involved to accomplish this with the midi tool?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

[Michael Lawlor]

I have fixed it!
I created a brand new expression, for which I have only entered the 
text,"arco".  No setting of key switches or any other parameters.  It is 
surprising the defaults do not work!

Thanks for all the help.
Michael 


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Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

[Darcy James Argue]

Use the keyswitched GPO instruments (the ones with "KS" in the name) and HP 
switches automatically from arco to pizz.

Cheers,

- DJA
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> Michael,
> 
> After some further investigation, I found that if you want to use GPO, the 
> GPO sample set contains separate samples for violins played arco, and for 
> violins played pizzicato. What I don't yet see in the time I've had 
> available, is how to change GPO samples with an expression. Until I find out 
> how to change samples, here's an old trick that might work: define two staves 
> for each string type, assigning one for pizzicato, and one for arco and 
> assigning the appropriate GPO patch for each staff. Place the notes to be 
> arco in the staff with the arco sample, and the notes to be pizzicato in the 
> staff with the pizzicato sample. Now set the two staves to print in the same 
> place on the page, and hide the staves of the non-playing staff with staff 
> styles.
> 
> However, I'd assume that there is someway to change instrument samples in GPO 
> mid staff, so I'll continue looking for that when I get a chance; meantime, 
> if there's not a way to change GPO samples, we've got a feature request for 
> Finale 2013.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

[Raymond Horton]

You can do that in a simpler fashion than the overlapping staves, which can
give you trouble if you forget they are there and try to edit.  Use
different layers for pizz and arco, or have the expression change patches.

OR

use the GPO samples labels "KS" for keystroke and the expressions themselves
should work.  They are tricky, though.

Raymond Horton
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Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

> Michael,
>
> After some further investigation, I found that if you want to use GPO, the
> GPO sample set contains separate samples for violins played arco, and for
> violins played pizzicato. What I don't yet see in the time I've had
> available, is how to change GPO samples with an expression. Until I find out
> how to change samples, here's an old trick that might work: define two
> staves for each string type, assigning one for pizzicato, and one for arco
> and assigning the appropriate GPO patch for each staff. Place the notes to
> be arco in the staff with the arco sample, and the notes to be pizzicato in
> the staff with the pizzicato sample. Now set the two staves to print in the
> same place on the page, and hide the staves of the non-playing staff with
> staff styles.
>
> However, I'd assume that there is someway to change instrument samples in
> GPO mid staff, so I'll continue looking for that when I get a chance;
> meantime, if there's not a way to change GPO samples, we've got a feature
> request for Finale 2013.
>
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