Re: [Fink-devel] Sourceforge project of the month

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony DeRobertis

On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:41 PM, Carsten Klapp wrote:


I'm going to try to port fink to MkLinux so I don't have to use rpm 
anymore (of course it will have to always build from source and not 
use the binary packages).

An easier (and more package-complete) alternative would be Debian's PPC 
port, if you can run it. May even be able to run it on Mach.



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Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg 'available' file - sections?

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony DeRobertis

On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 10:43 PM, Ben Hines wrote:


This probably also explains why i have no sections in dselect... Does 
anyone?

I do, for some packages (both available and installed). On the Debian 
system, the section comes from the Packages and Packages.gz files which 
are maintained by the ftp masters.

scanpackages *should* generate these files in Fink; after that, sudo 
deselect update or sudo apt-get update may be required to make 
dselect see them.

Now, no guarantee it isn't broken. 



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Re: [Fink-devel] Tuxracer 0.61 ready for distribution

2002-11-11 Thread Chia Hung
I just installed turxracer with the .info file created by Mr. Kiwi. It
installed without any problem and the program ran well too.

Just out of curiosity, are the issues raised by Mr. Hines serious problems
for the .info file? Has my installation of tuxracer caused some catastrophic
event to my Fink installation such that I have messed up my Fink install? Or
are those issues more of a standard convention for Fink packages?

Thanks for educating me.

Chia

On 11/9/02 8:26 PM, Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 10:39  AM, Mr. Kiwi wrote:
 
 11-9-02 from Mr. Kiwi
 I have extensively tested my new Tuxracer 0.61 package on 10.2,
 10.2.1, xfree86-base, Xfree86-base-threaded, sdl, and glut. As it
 stands, the game runs without an X window system, but since glut
 depends on X, xfree86-something has to be installed. The .info file
 for package tuxracer can be found at:
 http://homepage.mac.com/mkiwi/tuxracer.info
 
 
 
 Make sure to run fink validate on your info file to check it for
 errors.
 
 - tuxracer.info is not a valid name and the description is far too
 long. :)
 - You must start with revision 1
 - You must depend on the shlibs version of packages. You cannot
 depend on sdl sdl-mixer, etc, rather you need sdl-shlibs,
 sdl-mixer-shlibs (same with several others).
 - You need to depend on x11 not xfree86*
 - Use mirror:sourceforge:%n/%n-%v.tar.gz for your sources, and add
 Source-MD5: fields.
 - prefix=%p does not need to be added by you, thats default.
 - don't use host=powerpc-unknown... use UpdateConfigGuess: true
 
 -Ben
 
 
 
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Re: [Fink-devel] Tuxracer 0.61 ready for distribution

2002-11-11 Thread David R. Morrison
The comments which Ben Hines made were things which need to be addressed
before the package could be included in Fink.  We try to make sure that
all of the Fink packages work well together, both now and in the future,
and that's the purpose of these standards.  

What normally happens when someone writes a new package is that they
submit it using the Package Submission tracker and then they get comments
like that in response.  The comments are still public, but in that case
they won't get emailed to a large number of people automatically.

  -- Dave


Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Tuxracer 0.61 ready for distribution
From: Chia Hung [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just out of curiosity, are the issues raised by Mr. Hines serious problems
 for the .info file? Has my installation of tuxracer caused some catastrophic
 event to my Fink installation such that I have messed up my Fink install? Or
 are those issues more of a standard convention for Fink packages?



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[Fink-devel] Re: CVS: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.216,1.217PkgVersion.pm,1.92,1.93

2002-11-11 Thread Max Horn
[for context: I just changed Engine.pm in CVS to use --info-dir 
instead of --infodir as argument to install-info, as I got repeatedly 
error reports by people which have /usr/bin before /sw/sbin in their 
PATH; thus for them the texinfo install-info was used, not the dpkg 
install-info we normally use. Problem is, the texinfo one doesn't 
support --infodir]

At 16:45 Uhr -0500 11.11.2002, David R. Morrison wrote:
Max, haven't you substituted one problem for another with this change?
For a long time, we've used the dpkg version of install-info not the
texinfo one.  Will it accept the other syntax?  If not, you're creating
a situation where people will make debs that other people can't install...


I guess you will know more about texinfo than I do (which is not much 
:-). see above for my motivation to make the change.

Are the inputs/outputs of the two install-info's actually 
incompatible? If so, then a better fix would be to hardcode 
%p/sbin/install-info in the pre/postinstscripts. No problem to change 
this.


Cheers,

Max
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[Fink-devel] pan / pango / GDK_USE_XFT

2002-11-11 Thread Max Horn
I have made a local package for pan 0.13.2 some time ago, but I keep 
getting the same error:



% pan

(Pan:23558): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

(Pan:23558): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: Couldn't load font Sans 10 falling 
back to Sans 10

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: Couldn't load font Sans 10 falling 
back to Sans 10

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: All font failbacks failed


Note that this used to occur in the past, too, and that I have as a 
workaround GDK_USE_XFT set to 1. But for some reasons this is not 
working anymore... anybody got a hint for me what is wrong exactly, 
and how to work around it?


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Re: [Fink-devel] pan / pango / GDK_USE_XFT

2002-11-11 Thread Alexander Strange

On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 07:32 PM, Max Horn wrote:


I have made a local package for pan 0.13.2 some time ago, but I keep 
getting the same error:



% pan

(Pan:23558): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

(Pan:23558): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: Couldn't load font Sans 10 falling 
back to Sans 10

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: Couldn't load font Sans 10 falling 
back to Sans 10

** (pan-real:23558): WARNING **: All font failbacks failed


Note that this used to occur in the past, too, and that I have as a 
workaround GDK_USE_XFT set to 1. But for some reasons this is not 
working anymore... anybody got a hint for me what is wrong exactly, 
and how to work around it?


What version of xfree86-base are you running?

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they can talk to an invisible man every Sunday.
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Re: [Fink-devel] pan / pango / GDK_USE_XFT

2002-11-11 Thread Max Horn
At 19:41 Uhr -0500 11.11.2002, Alexander Strange wrote:
[...]

What version of xfree86-base are you running?


 system-xfree86   4.2-1Placeholder package for manually installe...
 i   xfree86-base 4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 i   xfree86-base-sh  4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 xfree86-base-th  4.2.99.2-0.  XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 xfree86-base-th  4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 i   xfree86-rootles  4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 i   xfree86-rootles  4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 xfree86-rootles  4.2.99.2-0.  XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
 xfree86-rootles  4.2.1.1-1XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...


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Re: [Fink-devel] Tuxracer 0.61 ready for distribution

2002-11-11 Thread Ben Hines

On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 10:09  AM, David R. Morrison wrote:


What normally happens when someone writes a new package is that they
submit it using the Package Submission tracker and then they get 
comments
like that in response.  The comments are still public, but in that case
they won't get emailed to a large number of people automatically.


Since the info file was sent to the list i figured i should send the 
problems too..

You may indeed have problems with that package in the future, the 
dependencies on non-shlibs packages could prevent updates to newer 
versions of some of the dependent packages. If that made any sense to 
you. :)

Anyway, should be fixed soon.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] pan / pango / GDK_USE_XFT

2002-11-11 Thread Max Horn
At 17:34 Uhr -0800 11.11.2002, Ben Hines wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 04:32  PM, Max Horn wrote:



Note that this used to occur in the past, too, and that I have as a 
workaround GDK_USE_XFT set to 1. But for some reasons this is not 
working anymore... anybody got a hint for me what is wrong exactly, 
and how to work around it?


The new version of gtk+2 sets GDK_USE_XFT for in the runtimevars, so 
you don't need to set it.

Well, it doesn't help anyway...


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: CVS: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.216,1.217 PkgVersion.pm,1.92,1.93

2002-11-11 Thread David R. Morrison
Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [for context: I just changed Engine.pm in CVS to use --info-dir 
 instead of --infodir as argument to install-info, as I got repeatedly 
 error reports by people which have /usr/bin before /sw/sbin in their 
 PATH; thus for them the texinfo install-info was used, not the dpkg 
 install-info we normally use. Problem is, the texinfo one doesn't 
 support --infodir]
 
 At 16:45 Uhr -0500 11.11.2002, David R. Morrison wrote:
 Max, haven't you substituted one problem for another with this change?
 For a long time, we've used the dpkg version of install-info not the
 texinfo one.  Will it accept the other syntax?  If not, you're creating
 a situation where people will make debs that other people can't install...
 
 I guess you will know more about texinfo than I do (which is not much 
 :-). see above for my motivation to make the change.
 
 Are the inputs/outputs of the two install-info's actually 
 incompatible? If so, then a better fix would be to hardcode 
 %p/sbin/install-info in the pre/postinstscripts. No problem to change 
 this.


It looks like the inputs/outputs are not compatible.  I tested with the
gzip package, and /usr/bin/install-info wants to use a file /sw/share/info/dir
to index stuff but we don't have that file.  On the other hand,
/sw/sbin/install-info doesn't need that indexing file.

So I think this should be changed to hardode %p/sbin/install-info in
the two scripts, as you suggested.

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg 'available' file - sections?

2002-11-11 Thread Ben Hines

On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 04:01  PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:



On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 10:43 PM, Ben Hines wrote:


This probably also explains why i have no sections in dselect... Does 
anyone?

I do, for some packages (both available and installed). On the Debian 
system, the section comes from the Packages and Packages.gz files 
which are maintained by the ftp masters.

scanpackages *should* generate these files in Fink; after that, sudo 
deselect update or sudo apt-get update may be required to make 
dselect see them.


It does generate the files, and the sections do show up in the 
Packages files. But that doesn't help. The sections have to be in the 
available file.

 % sudo dselect update
Err file: local/main Packages
  File not found
Ign file: local/main Release
Err file: stable/main Packages
  File not found
Ign file: stable/main Release
Err file: stable/crypto Packages
  File not found
Ign file: stable/crypto Release
Hit http://us.dl.sourceforge.net release/main Packages
... snip...
Hit http://us.dl.sourceforge.net current/crypto Release
Failed to fetch 
file:/sw/fink/old/dists/local/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages  File 
not found
Failed to fetch 
file:/sw/fink/old/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages  
File not found
Failed to fetch 
file:/sw/fink/old/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages  
File not found
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old 
ones used instead.

update available list script returned error exit status 1.
Press enter to continue.

So it looks like this at least, is a problem with my sources.list:

# Allow APT to find pre-10.2 deb files
deb file:/sw/fink/old local main
deb file:/sw/fink/old stable main crypto
#deb file:/sw/fink/old unstable main crypto

Removing those old entries, lets me update available:

Merging Available information
Replacing available packages info, using /sw/var/cache/apt/available.
Information about 708 package(s) was updated.

However, still not everything has a Section listed in the available 
file.

Here's the REAL problem:

in /sw/etc/apt/sources.list:

#deb file:/sw/fink unstable main crypto

Need to uncomment that.

Now sudo dselect update scans all the packages, and.. they have 
sections!

% grep Section available | wc -l
   1196

Basically, like the comment in sources.list the file says, sources.list 
needs to be kept in sync with fink.conf. Any user who followed the 10.2 
update instructions will likely have them out of sync because we didn't 
say to do that in the steps. Though it should work fine for stable 
packages, and that is probably all that really matters since there is 
no unstable binary distro yet.

And it still might be useful to have fink add the section to the 
control file so they are added automatically without having to dselect 
update.

-Ben



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[OT] Re: [Fink-devel] Sourceforge project of the month

2002-11-11 Thread Carsten Klapp

Hi Anthony,

Funny you should mention this I just managed to get Debian's Potato 
installed on my 6100/66 yesterday. Still not able to get the right 
video mode, mouse  keyboard for Xwindows/Gnome but the new 2.4.4 
kernel is faster than MkLinux and I'm much happier with the choice of 
packages. =)

I'm still thinking about porting some of fink over, it might be nice to 
be able to build a couple packages from source (that aren't too heavily 
patched for OS X) using fink info files, and do things like fink list 
etc which are not available in apt. Of course I don't know all the 
details about apt-get and dselect, maybe there is some way to do these 
already.

Cheers,
Carsten

On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 07:06 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:


On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:41 PM, Carsten Klapp wrote:


I'm going to try to port fink to MkLinux so I don't have to use rpm 
anymore (of course it will have to always build from source and not 
use the binary packages).

An easier (and more package-complete) alternative would be Debian's 
PPC port, if you can run it. May even be able to run it on Mach.




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Re: [OT] Re: [Fink-devel] Sourceforge project of the month

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:04, Carsten Klapp wrote:
 
 Hi Anthony,
 
 Funny you should mention this I just managed to get Debian's Potato 
 installed on my 6100/66 yesterday.

Ugh. Why potato? Woody is out now, and I think you'll find it much
better. New XFree86, for example.

And, oh yeah, twice as many packages.

 Of course I don't know all the 
 details about apt-get and dselect, maybe there is some way to do these 
 already.

assuming you have deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can
do:

   apt-get source package_name
   apt-get source --compile package_name

Also, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot is your friend.

(if these want root, look at the fakeroot package)




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