Re: Perspective on Equitana
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-10-13 14:44:02 EDT, you write: I have two Fjord horses now because someone took their Fjords to the Calgary Stampede and put them in a teensy little corral inside an exhibit building where I could see them up close. Eight years later, when I wanted to get a horse, and was considering a Shire, I suddenly remembered that I could have a short Draft horse. Bought Gunthar, then bought a much lighter built Anvil's Luise a few months later. Same type of thing here. I always go to the local county fair. A couple years I saw these beautiful ponies that I had never seen before. Captivated by them, and my son had to drag me away from them. I never thought I'd be able to afford one. Then, when I was able to afford horses again, I saw an ad in the local New Mexico horse trades. (Spent one year in NM). I told my husband these are the horses I used to see, oh, I think they are wonderful. Now we've got 3, with one more on the way. Nope, I didn't run out and by a fjord the moment I first saw one, but there was definitely a seed planted. It took a few years for that seed to grow and come into fruition. But it did. Pamela
Re: NFHR treasurery, advertising, etc.
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] You got it. THANK YOU, Pamela, for jumping right up and offering to do articles on the Fjord. I will put your offer in the hands of the promotion committee. (New committee assignments will be made on the next BOD call, November 4th) In the meantime, you can be in touch with me if you have any questions, comments, etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFHR treasurery, advertising, etc.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-10-13 19:33:01 EDT, you write: THANK YOU, Pamela, for jumping right up and offering to do articles on the Fjord. I will put your offer in the hands of the promotion committee. You're welcome g. You can see that I love to type/write, and I adore my horses. No better marriage than putting these two things together. An online friend of mine publishes the magazine Young Equestrian. I talked to her briefly about an article about Fjords a couple of weeks ago. She said somebody had just written one and she would like me to proofread it!. It's not a widely circulated magazine, but there are a lot of children out there reading it, and learning about horses. Some of these kids could fall in love with Fjords in the next issue, and when they are ready to buy (or their parents ready to buy for them) their first/next horse, it could very well be a Fjord! Pamela
Fjord Draft Harness
This message is from: Nancy Hotovy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Ann - For our everyday use, we use nylon harness. It's strong enough for Rich to use logging and plowing and it adjusts easily as I am always using it on different size horses. We hav order it from P R Harness Shop in Topeka, IN and get the Cob size. The bridles that come with it are excellent for fitting. They adjust from a yearling size up to the full size Fjord. This harness shop also makes any other type of harness you would like and does a very nice job fitting the Fjord.
Articles/Evaluations
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) To: Julie Will I would be glad to write an article or two for the NFHR. I had spoken with someone a few years ago (don't even remember who now but a BOD member) and was told that they already had that taken care of. But I think that the Small Farmers Journal already has plenty of visibility as far as Fjords are concerned -- they have frequent articles, photos, and innumerable ads for the breed. I think Equus and Practical Horseman are the kinds of magazines that we could benefit from exposure in -- and it's not as easy to get articles in those. I would be glad to try, if I could get cooperation on getting photos, To: The Larsons/Mike May No, I am not under the impression that evaluations must be held in an indoor arena, nor that Fjord owners not in the Northwest all have inadequate facilities. But I do think that holding evaluations on the owner's property brings up a lot of complications, which I was trying to discuss, and of which I think footing adequacy is an important one. The Oregon evaluation was sponsored by an individual -- Gayle Ware -- and not by any group, and very few members of the groups out here supported the evaluation by their attendance. Anyone anywhere else is free to set up an Evaluation just as Gayle did, the issue is only of whose property it is on. As it stands now, I believe if it is on a Fjord owners property, then they cannot have their own horses evaluated -- and my comments were directed at the idea of changing that to allow their own horses to be evaluated. I don't really care about the home court advantage for their horses, but I don't want to be at a disadvantage because the facility is not adequate. That was my only point. PS Washracks are nice, but not a necessity. Footing is a necessity, whether indoors or out. I see no reason why evaluation facilities should be less nice than facilities where a horse show could be held, and to me it would be well worth the $20 per horse to ensure that they are. Becky Vorpagel Jont Creek Acres
re: introducing new horse to the herd
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) DeAnna, Mary Thurman's suggestion to you was very insightful, and I bet she's right on track. You probably know that unless a stallion has been raised with a gelding, or at some point has gotten used to being with one, he most likely will not tolerate one. The interesting thing is, that with some geldings the reverse is also true, and the gelding will not tolerate the stallion. Tuopen probably is being protective of the mare, but it may not be just the mare. He may think he's protecting all of them. It may well be that if you have the colt gelded now it will end the problem. As far as waiting until the end of fly season, I hope I'm not contradicting something your veterinarian has told you, but we (myself as a veterinarian, and the clinic I work at) do not worry very much about that. Horses are good at keeping flies away from wounds, especially an area like we are talking about that is in reach of their tail. And you can help with fly spray near the area. When someone says they're worried about keeping the flies away from a wound, it's so the flies won't lay eggs there and you end up with a maggot infestation (anyone eating lunch? : ) ) But flies prefer to lay their eggs in rotting material, and unless something goes wrong with the castration, there won't be any rotting material there. So our experience has shown there just is not much to worry about with fly problems after castrations in horses. Even after you have the colt gelded, the best place to put them together would be, as Mary said, away from the other horses, and, just as importantly, in a totally new pen that Tuopen hasn't been in and doesn't think he owns. You said you have limited pastures, so I don't know if this possible for you, but it really does make a difference in a horse's thinking. Keep in mind that if the colt is threatened again, he may try to go through/over the fence instead of getting trompled again, so a fence that is the least likely to hurt him would be nice. Hope this helps. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Log skid Libby
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oscar Shirley Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it interesting that those involved in log skid competition don't practice (I obviously don't participate in this event). I also found it interesting that folks don't practice the log skid. I know that when I'm getting my donkey ready for snigging classes, we only practice it a couple of times---as much to get my timing back as anything! Shadow seems to remember the drill much better than I do. My guess is that, if you practice too much, the animal starts to anticipate the turns, rather than listening for your directions as to when to turn. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Difficulty introducing mare
This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am still having a problem with my new mare and my gelding, and since Deanna wrote something similar, I thought i would jump back on the bandwagon for help. They are both fjords. When the mare arrived 3 weeks ago, she seemed to be i heat and she got whooped by the gelding- lots of bites and chasing. She got a few kicks in but no big deal. We have tried reintroducing about one time a week for the last 3 weeks and she still seems to be presenting to him. Like Deanna, we just can't keep them apart all winter. We are trying to be patient, but any help would be appreciated. We are about to go with a progesterone injection to keep her from being in heat. ann in alaska
Re: Perspective on Equitana
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Thought I'd contribute my personal perspective on advertising at Equitana. I have two Fjord horses now because someone took their Fjords to the Calgary Stampede and put them in a teensy little corral inside an exhibit building where I could see them up close. Eight years later, when I wanted to get a horse, and was considering a Shire, I suddenly remembered that I could have a short Draft horse. Bought Gunthar, then bought a much lighter built Anvil's Luise a few months later. The Fjords at Equitana have also made an impression as far west as California. The woman at the tack store commented that, yes, she knew what a Fjord was, because she had seen people doing so many different things with them at Equitana. So, it seems that these exhibitions do have an effect in promoting the breed. However, I can see that the benefit may be breed wide rather than breeder specific as there is likely to be (at least in my case) a lag between seeing the Fjords at Equitana/Calgary Stampede and actually buying one. So, in a way, the breeders who exhibit at Equitana are unlikely to experience immediate returns on their investment of time and money. But as an adjunct to more breeder specific advertising, it seems Equitana, or something like it, is valuable. Gail Russell Another thought on Promotion - The NFHR has been at Equitana 3 years. I believe the cost last time was $7,000. Correct me if wrong. I'm wondering if the return is really worth the money spent. Our personal esperience was negative. I went down in '97 armed with brochures and sales lists to represent Beaver Dam Farm, and didn't get the response we normally get with a $250 ad, and Equitana cost us $1500. Other breeders (not Fjords) said the same thing. It wasn't the best place for their advertising dollars. So, I'm wondering if Equitana is the best use of Registry money.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #209
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rollins) Sorry, made a mistake! This is a continuation of fjord prodcts from the pnfpg. - baseball hats$13.50 - small wooden 3-d fjords 4in $9. -wooden fjord pins $3.75 - wooden fjord keychains$3.75 - wooden fjord necklaces $3.75 -lg. wooden flat fjord heads $12. -medium-lg standing wooden fjords $15. -fjord soapie ponies $3. - fjord soapie pony burlap bags w/ bamboo handles, includes fjord soapie, apple sponge, applessance bubble bath $12. -Have you driven a fjord lately license plate hoders $9. -fjord crossing signs $8.00 -Norwegian parking signs $8. -fjord rubber stamp ,head or 3 running $7. -pair of fjords in collars notecard by Canadian artist L. Norman Chambers $1.each -fjords notepads $1.50 -wooden handpainted fjord Flat Chrismas tree ornament $4. or lg one for $8. (lg one is about 8 inches across) Made by a woman in Bigfork,Montana -last yrs baseball hats w/ assorted brim color, navy, red, black w/ fjord logo$5. - clearance sweatshirts in children's sizes only , $6. each, 2 for $10.00, or one free w/every order over $50. til they run out! - fjord socks $4. * We also have many other specialty fjord items that are delicate, please contact me for more info on those or customizing a size in any wearable item. -wooden fjord child size rocking horses, hand done for us. in natural wood color $50. If you need things before the holidays please get your orders in soon! Thanks, Kathy Rollins , promo chair, pnfpg
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #209
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I have a suggetion for the BOD, and offer it through this forum rather than sending a letter. My suggetion concerns Regustry business, which afterall, is the business of most everyone on the list. And by airing the suggestion here, rather than by post, the opportunity for feedback, both positive and negative, is much greater, and much faster. My proposal is that the BOD formerly invite people on the list to submit creative ideas on how our breed could be better promoted by the NFHR. It would be cyber brainstorming. Invite everyone to think creatively, and not be deterred by cost, because if a particularly good idea is too costly, perhaps it could be reworked and made affordable. -- Mike could collect these ideas to submit to the BOD. He probably already has a good start on the list from suggestions made recently. I think cyber brainstorming is a terrific use of this medium for the benefit of the Registry, and all Fjord owners. What do you think? Another thought on Promotion - The NFHR has been at Equitana 3 years. I believe the cost last time was $7,000. Correct me if wrong. I'm wondering if the return is really worth the money spent. Our personal esperience was negative. I went down in '97 armed with brochures and sales lists to represent Beaver Dam Farm, and didn't get the response we normally get with a $250 ad, and Equitana cost us $1500. Other breeders (not Fjords) said the same thing. It wasn't the best place for their advertising dollars. So, I'm wondering if Equitana is the best use of Registry money. The Registry could survey breeders to see if they sold horses as a result of Equitana. I'm not saying our presence isn't a good thing, but it is something the BOD should questin before spending another $7,000 of our money. Perhaps there's a better use of promotional funds. Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #209
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rollins) Hi, this is Kathy Rollins with the PNFPG. I promised to sent a list of fjord products available from our group at this time. I am sorry it has taken me so long and I will only write it once. If you are interested in any of these products please e-mail me privately so we don't clog the list withorders. Many thanks! - 1998 Libby t-shirt, lg fjord on back, writing on front, hunter green only med, lg, xl, 2xl$12. - t-shirt w/ fjord on front , hunter green or burgundy, same sizes as above $12. -sweatshirts w/ design of fjords pulling, english, western, driving hunter, burgundy, red, black, grey, navy med-3xl $22. - glass mugs w/ fjord design, in cobalt blue, green, burgundy $6. - lightweight pullover jackets w/ embroidered fjord design on left front, khaki, navy$55. -heavy, polor fleece lind jackets w/ embroidered fjord design on left ffront, navy, burgundy m-3xl $70. - stadium blankets w/ embroidered fjord design in corner, navy, burgundy, green (other colors avail) $30. - cotton fishing style hats w/ embroidered norwegian fjord on them $15. - cotton baseball hats w/ embroidered (same as above) in assorted colors stonewashed look
Log skid Libby
This message is from: Oscar Shirley Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a quick comment from someone who would rather read others input. I thought it interesting that those involved in log skid competition don't practice (I obviously don't participate in this event). Also thought you might find a portion of Libby's class description interesting. Entries to pull two 16 1/2 foot logs both directions through five cones set 16 feet apart, while staying within 30 foot boundary lines. One last bit here - Although Libby, MT is economically challenged, the Parks and Recs group that manage the grounds have worked hard to continue to improve the facility for the Nordicfest Fjord Show. Last years contribution which was designed by members of the PNFPG was a much needed washrack. Shirley Anderson
fighting...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi DeeAnna, I cannot realistically keep horses in two separate pastures indefinitely, however -- we just don't have the facilities to do this, especially with an Iowa winter coming on. It's either find Duncan a new home soon, or resolve this problem between him and Tuopen. Does anyone have any suggestions? I thank you in advance for any ideas you have! DeeAnna Umm, did you mention one of the herd was a mare? If so, that could be the problem. Our mares are separate from the geldings...the problem of in-fighting is effectively solved. There will always be the occaisional grumpy look when lobbying for attention, treats...whatever, but no catastrophies. They even share their hay piles. Sorry to hear Duncan was injured, it does make you feel awful to see this. Maybe seperate turnout times? It would be a pain, but think of the consequences. Either they figure this out for themselves (risking further injury/death), or keeping them separate is the only way. Some horses never get along. Hope you can work it out. Good luck to you, Ingrid
Re: lymes, etc
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-I can join the group that sends email out where it is not supposed to go!! There is a song that goes Oh,Oh, Bernadine and ONCE in a while I have to sing that!! Anyway, I got a nice email from Steve, reminding me he is currently working on subject Mentioned, I missed that I guess. Mostly, I was trying to pry Nancy T. into vounteering-maybe she still will-when Steve gets things going. Regards and safe Driving/Riding, Bernadine Karns
RE: Becky
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:42 AM 10/12/98 +, you wrote: This message is from: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] My question to Nancy was not so much concerned with a owner hosted farm, but an owner hosted evaluation. If I or someone like me in the Southwest does all the footwork to host an Evaluation at, say, Westworld in Phoenix, can I still enter my or their horses in the Evaluation? Even though I may have worked closely with the Judge in order to work out the kinks? I can answer this one. There is nothing in the rules that says you cannot have your horses evaluated even though you are the coordinator. I think in all of the previous evaluations the coordinators have all had horses of their own in the evaluation. It hasn't been a problem. I hope this helps you feel better about this issue. You must understand that Oregon is a bit far for us to haul horses, even for an evaluation. But as members of the NFHR, we would like to establish a few goings on down here that fall under the auspices of the NFHR. We would love to see you get something started in that area. You could possibly draw from Southern California too. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
where ?
This message is from: Werner, Kristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Josie - you mention that you live in the Southwest. Where ? You
mention Phoenix - are you in
Arizona ? I am interested in knowing because we are also familiar with
that area of the States -
we lived in Mesa, Tempe, Chandler (where didn`t we roam ?) and my
grandmother is now out in
Apache Junction. We will be visiting here in December. Please let me
know - perhaps we would
drive out and see you and your desert ponies.
Regards,
Kristine
-Original Message-
From: Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Montag, 12. Oktober 1998 12:42
To: fjordhorse
Subject: RE: Becky
This message is from: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Becky, I think you may have misunderstood the Farm Host idea for
SouthwesEvaluations. No one was or is
interested in hosting an evaluation at an inadequate facility.
However, there are breeding ranches down here
with exceptional indoor facilities which could easily host an
Evaluation in excess of 30 mounts. We're not all
little backyard operations just because we aren't up in the Northwest
vacinity.
However, I agree to the home field advantage theory. Still, if an
Evaluation is held on your home turf, even
at a public facility, chances are you have the edge anyway. But I
don't really believe an evaluator is fooled by
much.
The idea for those of us in the Stepchild Southwest {Brian, can I
include you in the Stepchild group even
though you are out East? : ) }, is that we have no group nor formal
club to act as host. That means a
breeder/owner/trainer will have to act as host at their facility OR
their local public facility in order to pull off
an evaluation. My question to Nancy was not so much concerned with a
owner hosted farm, but an owner
hosted evaluation. If I or someone like me in the Southwest does all
the footwork to host an Evaluation at,
say, Westworld in Phoenix, can I still enter my or their horses in the
Evaluation? Even though I may have
worked closely with the Judge in order to work out the kinks?
I hope this helps you feel better about this issue. You must
understand that Oregon is a bit far for us to haul
horses, even for an evaluation. But as members of the NFHR, we would
like to establish a few goings on
down here that fall under the auspices of the NFHR.
Josie
