RE: Looking for a name
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rondi wrote: Here is what I have found when I type in Norwegian: Æ=alt 146 Ø= alt 0216 Å= alt 143 æ= alt 0230 ø= alt 0248 å= alt 0229 Hope this helps, Rondi. __ All sorts or alternate characters are available by using the character mapStuff below is copied from help: Type ¢, £, ¥, ®, and other characters not on the keyboard 1 Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Character Map. If Character Map is not available, see Windows Help for information about how to install a Windows component. 2 In the Font box, select the font that contains the character you want. 3 In the character grid, click the character you want. 4 Click Select, and then click Copy. 5 Switch to your item, and then place the insertion point in the text box where you want to paste the character. 6 Click Paste . 7 If the character looks different from the one you selected, select the character and apply the same font you selected in Character Map. Tip Character Map shows the key combination you can use in Outlook to insert the selected character. To type numbers in the key combination, use the numeric keypad, not the keyboard. _ Fred's note: to get the Alt keypad combination: while having the character map window open, click on the desired symbol and read the desired keystroke at the bottom. ¢£¥©®...lots of the symbols obtainable directly from the keyboard. Fred
Re: Tina's mysterious lameness
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anneli hope you get an answer. It is so difficult not knowing what it is or if it will get worse, or if you are doing the right thing etc. Sometimes I wonder why we put ourselves in this position until I go out and get a nudge or a nose to my face, etc. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg Kuntsen wrote: ... thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time, stalwarts.. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons & Rollins's are some that come to mind... Peg I applaud your efforts in recognising the energies, human and "other" that go into the mix to create the Libby show, or ANY show! It is NOT a simple task by any means, especially as the Fjord exhibitor becomes more and more sophisticated in terms of the range of disciplines they can perform in. However, just wanted to add a few names to your list of above: Bev Bishop (nee Tarmina) and her sister Ailene Oakwright who basiclly originated Libby (correct me if I am wrong here!) and Larry & Lynn Bo, who I know were extremely supportive of the show in the early years. Lastly, lets not forget Chip Lamb's contribution... Anyway, just a little addendum to an allready stellar list. Cheers, Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, Nv _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #325
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I was on the fjord newletter and I saw your email FG Brix, Is that FG as in Fjord Gate. I have an fjord who is FG Drisdig. I was just wondering if its a Fjord from the same farm as mine. Thanks
Re: fjord saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Terrance, Welcome to the Fjord list. Congratulations on your new Fjord! I can tell you that I use a Wintec saddle with a wide tree on my fjord. It fits him well. It's a dressage saddle so it doesn't have any long skirts to interfere with his hip. Sharon and Buddy playing in So Cal. 60 degrees and sunny with overnight frost on the grass. GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
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This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Some responses to the last Digest: Robyn - the next Libby Show will be held in Libby, Montana, near the Canadian border, on September 13-15, 2002. It is always tied to the dates of the town's Nordicfest celebration. I hope you can come, it has always been a wonderful show! Jane, I look forward to seeing you there someday too. Looks like we should definitely have the Unique Hitch class, but I still haven't heard that anyone plans to be in it. Next question - what about the Team Weight Pull - no entries last year...? Anneli - glad to hear from you again. You have a unique perspective and always have thoughtful posts. Good luck in solving the lameness puzzle. I, too, have had good results with equine accupressure and chiropractic treatments. Joel - "breeding for color" is something that has been detrimental to many breeds, when that was the only criterion for breeding. "Breeding for color," however, is not the same as trying to preserve the important characteristics of the Fjord breed, one of which is that the breed occurs in 5 types of dun coloration. I am sure your preference for "draft types" does not mean that you ignore temperament, soundness, other aspects of conformation, intelligence, or the other traits people are writing about in response to Vivian's question.. Neither does my interest in color ignore those characteristics. As I have stated before, color for me is important, given that "the basics" are already there. Some breeders may have different priorities. That is why we have the Evaluation program. Buyers or breeders can, if they wish, use the information as a valuable aid in choosing stock. There is no mention that I can think of in the Evaluation program of color, except in reference to white on the face and dun markings. Color choices come after the useful information from an Evaluation. Vivian - I am still working on your question. I think it's great and I am enjoying the responses. All those writing about pedigrees - YEAH! I'm excited about the future worldwide data base that I'm sure will come soon. And I wonder how DNA testing will be a part of this information - I'm sure it will, eventually. Arne Presthus expressed the hope that, before long, each country would accept the others' Evaluations. This would be a huge boon to breeders who import. Long-winded as usual - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Tina's mysterious lameness
This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean wrote: >>Anneli, Could it be so simple as a stone bruise? >> I'm afraid not. She has had pads on her front hooves since june and have the hooves checked by two different farriers and two different vets. The next thing to do, according to the vet on the animal hospital, is to do some "super X-ray" (scintografi in Swedish), but we haven't got a time yet. After that - I will turn to a chiropractor, but I thought we could might as well try this first. But I have to check again about this test and pregnant mares! I belive I told the vet 10 times that Tina was pregnant, but I'm not quite sure the vet remembered it in the end anyway. Tina was tested pregnant och the 30th day and if there is a problem with the test and pregnancy, I will ask for a blood-test to check for sure. If she has resorbed or something (which I don't think) I will have them run the test, if not we have to think of something else. Anneli * Anneli Sundkvist Department of Archaeology & Ancient History Uppsala University St. Eriks Torg 5 S-753 10 Uppsala Sweden Phone: +46-18-4716236
Re: Tunica and W at the Norwegian Embassy - miscomunications
This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This method of comunication is difficult. What I meant to say was that Cheryl deserves as much if not more of the congratulations. Her horses did so well because she prepared them so well. Not sure if my post really said that! Also in my post about Libby classes, I never ment to imply that stick horse and other fun classes shouldn't be included. Just not to delete unique hitches. Too bad we aren't really able to meet around the kitchen table once and a while. Wouldn't have to spell correctly either. Jane
Attention Mainers, camptown dave alert!
This message is from: Joanna Crell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all fjorders, Just to make sure y'all are in the know, Dave McWethy will be the featured speaker at the JAn uary 12th meeting of the MAine Driving club meeting at the Windham Library at 11:30. The topic will be about his cross country journey with his 3 fjords (from NH to Montana) and I'm sure there would be lots of time for questions about everything else . It is a MDC members meeting( cold dish potluck) but they have extended welcome to non members for 5.00$ so, like me, either join-up or ante up and show up! Personally, I want to know what other ulterior motive that spy has for infiltrating our state, my operatives have let me down on this one, who is he visiting if not me, and why?!!! Did some sneaky harness-wanter offer him a beach drive or worse yet, lure him with some barbeque?? I'll have join the tag team of dancing girls and pound it out of him, no fun escapes my scrutiny! see you in the vicinity of one tall suspicious character masquerading as a purveyor of equine accoutrements. Mission impossible theme here please.. Joanna Crell and David Folger, directors Willowind Therapeutic Riding and Driving Center State Highway 3 Box 1140 Eden Bar Harbor, Maine 04609 phone and fax (207) 288-9506 http://www.willowind.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tunica and W at the Norwegian Embassy - long
This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations to Cheryl, Tunica and Wenche! They are great horses but only as good as their owner! ;) Love hearing about peoples adventures home and away with their horses. Jane
Re: Horse ancestry
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:43 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> With all this talk of registering 5 generations of Fjords I have a question. Please keep in mind, although that won't be difficult, that I am not a breeder. Does anyone know anything about his lineage: Buck-34 Freya-38 produced Kinnikinnick-45 and Stolmann -1 Rita-3 produced Sammi-11 Kinnikinnick and Sammi produced Brawn-66 who is the father of Lars Now throw in Suldrup Heid (DM) D329 Lene (DM) D4224 produced Rita-3 Kinnikinnick and Rita produced Buffy who is the mother of Lars this is quite confusing to me. Can someone explain it? Deb Well what is it exactly that you need explained? Seems like you have it down pretty well actually. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFHR Responsibility & 5th generation pedigrees.
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:19 AM 12/12/2001 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll do that. I know you understand, Mike, that I'm just trying to improve something I see as needing attention. The point is (as you say) trying to get as many horses in the data base as possible, and to do it in the most efficient way possible. Yes this is true. By the way, I checked my book of registration certificates, and five of our imported horses have completed pedigrees, meaning that when I sent in their transfer applications, you had all the info in your computer. One of those horses came the same year as the one that appeared with all the holes in her certificate. The point being that the Registry's data base is very extensive, and it's only the odd horse that comes up with blanks. This being the case, perhaps you could notify the owner, and get that odd horse taken care of. Yes the database is pretty extensive & it grows every day. Right now it has 6,245 Fjord horses in it. I also noticed that some of our U.S. born and bred mares over 15 years old have holes in their pedigree certificates. Two are Solar daughters, and the other imported in utero. Most likely, if I send those certificates back for upgrading, you now have that information in the computers. You can check to see yourself before sending them in. Just go to the web site & type in their name or part of it. When it finds the correct horse click on its name & you will see the five generation pedigree on line. If there are holes in it then I don't have the info in the database. If you wish to get the information from the official source & send it in or have it sent to me directly I will update the database when I get time to do so. Again, the point is that it's probably a fairly unusual case to come up with holes in the pedigree, so it wouldn't be a lot of extra work for you to either take care of it yourself, or contact the owner before completing the certificate. Best Regards,Carol Actually it is fairly common to not have a full 5 generation pedigree on imported horses. The stallion lines are usually not a problem but there are many different mares that are not in any of our horses lines yet. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the viking horse the Fjord?
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:22 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I started to do some research about the Vikings and the horses that they used. I have just started and the only area on the internet that even deals with their horses, that I have found so far, won't let me enter. Can anyone tell me where I could read more about the Fjord and the Viking? Are there accounts of Fjords being used, pictures from long, long ago what? I would appreciate a point in the right direction. I don't think the Vikings had cameras Deb. I really don't know where you would look for that sort of info. Maybe someone else will have an idea. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For Mark, answer from professor
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Lynda Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello Mark, > > My old professor answered my request today, and here is his answer. Hope > this helps! > > < Modern Icelandic it is more like [brah-yee], with a plaitalization of the > /g/.>> > > Lynda > > Lynda and Daniel > > Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm > White Cloud, MI > 231.689.9902 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
fjordhorse-digest V2001 #325
fjordhorse-digestThursday, December 13 2001Volume 2001 : Number 325 In this issue: Re: Back on list! Re: Back on list! Vahalla Singing God Suggestion #3 Re: Denny Emerson's article re. breeding Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #324 pedigrees Fjord Items - Shipping Reduced... Re: Denny Emerson's article Re: Unique Hitch ( really really long ) Re: Vahalla Singing God Off to California Re: pedigrees Re: pedigrees Saddle for Sale Re: NFHR Responsibility & 5th generation pedigrees. Libby Show Denny Emerson's article Re: Back on list! the viking horse the Fjord? Horse ancestry Re: the viking horse the Fjord? Re: Looking for a name Re: Horse chiropractors. Re: Horse ancestry Re: the viking horse the Fjord? For Mark, answer from professor Tunica and W at the Norwegian Embassy - long See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues. -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 05:38:04 -0700 From: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Back on list! This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After having spent the summer in Norway and the fall not having time to re-introduce myself to the list, it is time to break the silence. I'm now back home again The horses are pretty good - but Tina's lame and the vets don't know what the problem is. I have no idea and the vets seems rather confused - a perfectly healthy horse, but lame! > So, there's an Anneli-update! I'll try to be more visible on the list from now on! > > Anneli === Anneli, Welcome Back! I was wondering when we'd be hearing from you again and I'm glad to know that all goes well with you, save for Tina's lameness.. that's sure too bad-- hope it passes soon, maybe just a sprain. I'll look forward to your postings! Best regards, Ruthie, nw mt -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:01:26 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back on list! This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Anneli, I'm very new to the list but enjoy it thoroughly. I saw your note about the lameness. Do you have access to a horse chiropractor or accupuncturist? I have found in several cases with my guys (the majority are Senior citizens) that lameness the Vet couldn't understand was either an adjustment problem (chiropractor ) or deep inflamation that the accupuncture helped. I keep reading about the Libby Show - where is it and when is it next year? I would love to try and come and if I make it I would volunteer where I could. I do understand the need for volunteers and never having enough as I have been a Therapeutic Riding Instructor for over 20 years. Gosh that makes me sound old. Also I am waiting for the specs on a new saddle called the Haflinger - hope it may be wide enough for Nina Bean (as my 3 year old niece KayLeigh calls her). Happy Holidays to all, Robyn from MD still pretty warm for us my impatients are still blooming on the front porch looks a little strange with Christmas Lights. Freedom Hills Therapeutic Riding Program Port Deposit, MD. -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 05:49:53 -0800 From: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Vahalla Singing God This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark, I will ask Rune your Valhalla question. He is very versed with Nordic Folklore. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 05:55:10 -0800 From: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Suggestion #3 This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth, NFHR is trying to establish an open communication with the other countries registrars. There is a language barrier that FHI (Fjord Horse International) has been working on. An international Fjord dictionary. Things take time. Specially in Europe where tradition is "respecting the words written on paper".. in reference to change. Thank you for your input. Catherine Lassesen -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:56:14 -0500 From: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Denny Emerson's article re. breeding This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for posting that link Vivian. Interesting reading and I found lots more interesting stuff on that web site also. I couldn't help going back and reading the archived articles of both Denny E. and Anne Gribbons (dressage coach). If anyone else wants to check them out, I found them at http://www.chronofhorse.com/bw_rounds/01/ Well I'm getting behind on the conversation on Denny's article but I did want to contribute. Finally I have some time to write as Wednesday is my horses' day
Tunica and W at the Norwegian Embassy - long
This message is from: "Cheryl Beillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well .. I"m back, after a 20 hour day trucking a 3 yr old and a 5 mth old to Ottawa, for a morning fashion show (!) and evening reception for the press on the grounds of the Norwegian Ambassador's residence in Ottawa. That by the way, meant that Canadian fjords trod Norwegian soil, and pavement, not something that many fjords in N. America get to do! I am trying to negotiate a 'passport' for them both, after this first outing. For those of you who asked for a report, this is to say that everything went extremely well, with minor hitches (no pun intended) .. I loaded the cart at midnight and got up at 4 am to load the girls so as to arrive for a television interview as the first event .. It was pitch black at first, but there was a glorious sun rise which we literally drove into on the way into town. It was a crisp sunny morning when we arrived to find the party in full swing -- the Ambassador and his wife were introducing the tv audience to a Norwegian Xmas tree, food and drink. We paraded around outside, as live decorations, with the road cart swathed in greenery and a few ornaments parked by the front door. It and the girls were much admired. The Ambassador and his staff all got a little teary at the sight of the their national horse grazing on their front lawn. After leading the girls around, and getting through the interview, which a friend taped but I haven't seen .. we packed up and trucked the girls to a farm just outside Ottawa, to spend the day recovering in a nice big paddock with too much grass. By the way, if any of you saw it, you should know that I was ASKED to wear that oddly shaped Norwegian hat and felt mortified that my first tv appearance was in less than flattering headgear! About 4 pm we we loaded the horses up again and and headed back for the evening to greet the next batch of press, this time representatives of local and national newspapers who had been invited to a fashion show of Norwegian clothing/sweaters, etc. This was a little more dicey .. the traffic was dense, there were huge trucks honking and it took us almost two hours to get into town, when it normally would take 1/4 of that time. Both horses were sweating a bit when we arrived .. Then I had a moment of horror when I realized that it was dark and I would have to harness and drive with almost no light. I coudn't see the harness to hitch! and worse, I noticed that they had decorated the driveway with flaming torches! worser and worser! SO .. thinking I'd like to survive the evening and might have to decline to go through with it, I walked both girls down the lane, amid the flames - together -- and it was astounding. After one nervous look at the first, a tentative sniff at the second, Tunica and Wenche just ambled up and down the long driveway, with nary a second glance at the flames which continued to flicker on either side. This from a 3 yr old and a 5 mth old baby.We got them to switch on lights at the back of the house, which was huge, with lots of lawns (and trees with small cliffs to fall over! -- I have a vivid imagination which has helped me avoid some trauma in life, but not all, unfortunately) we managed to harness up, and spent an hour or so, circling and going up and down the lane, greeting guests who oohed and aaahed over the horses and the cart. I won't go into the inane questions I was asked ..one woman asked if I liked to "play" with my horses .. still not sure what she meant. But all in all, it was fun and there were many pictures taken some of which will get a fair bit of coverage. I"ve already had two calls enquiring about fjords sparked by the tv appearance. We are due back next week for our second appearance, this time with the sleigh, to pick up presents intended for charity from arriving diplomats at the annual embassy Xmas party. I"m going to ask them to douse the perpetual flames just in case. However .. the point of the story is that what this little outing did for me was underscore once again why these horses are so marvellous .. Little W, at 5 mths, had never been off the farm, never been in a trailer and spent the day contentedly marching alongside Tunica .. no sweating, no visible signs of any distress, just sweetness and light. So this was asking a lot. And I was prepared to take her home after the morning if there were any indications that she was at all worried, but she just took it all in stride. And then I have to say that Tunica was the most amazing .. it was dumb of me not to realize that it would be dark when had to drive in the evening, something Tunica had never been asked to do .. and I was more than a little concerned that this would be problematic but again, only willingness to move on and obvious trust on Tunica's part that it was safe to go whererever I asked .. The only slight moment of worry ca,e when a photographer took a picture very close to her face and she backed up three st
For Mark, answer from professor
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mark, My old professor answered my request today, and here is his answer. Hope this helps! <> Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: the viking horse the Fjord?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deb, Instead of exploring the Viking era, which only covers just a short period in history250 years, which is comparatively recent in relationship to the Norse history.try looking up the Norse. There are many good books available that discuss the people and their horses, although you may have to do some heavy searching plus realize that most texts concentrate more on the people than the horses. There are references to the horses, though. Grimm's Teutonic Mythology series has loads of info for starters. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: Horse ancestry
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks like a case of inbreeding and "line breeding" with Kinnikinnick is the grandfather on both sides and Rita is a grandmother on one side and greatgrandmother on the other side. I think this was more common when there were fewer Fjords and only a few bloodlines. But it doesn't matter if Lars is a good horse, he isn't breeding! I have a 26 year old gelding, Bjarne-23 who has Stolmann as grandfather on both sides. Rita is a grandmother on one side (Tor-10 is Bjarne's sire. Fluki-8 is Bjarne's dam.) As you can see by the Canadian registration numbers, these were some of the foundation staock. Stolmann was the first registered in the CFHA (#1), Tosen-2 was the second, Rita-3, the third, Britta-4, Lone-5 was Fluki's dam. Anne Bronson Notnes imported this foundation stock in 1965 or '66. Old bjarne is a good Fjord! Brian Jensen or other CFHA members, do you have a history of the CFHA written up somewhere? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska , -1F and 3:54 hours daylight >Does anyone know anything about his lineage: > >Buck-34 >Freya-38 >produced Kinnikinnick-45 >and > >Stolmann -1 >Rita-3 >produced Sammi-11 > >Kinnikinnick and Sammi produced Brawn-66 who is the father of Lars > >Now throw in > >Suldrup Heid (DM) D329 >Lene (DM) D4224 >produced Rita-3 > >Kinnikinnick and Rita produced Buffy who is the mother of Lars > >this is quite confusing to me. Can someone explain it? >Deb > > > > > > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
