Re: LGDs and Fjords
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Hey thanks re the ducksI have two little ponds so they have a place to go if chased. My horses are totally ok with the dogs.but they do perk their ears when they see Kodiak and his big WHITE fluffy tail off in the distance. Once he is visible to them as a whole creature they realize who it is and back to eating:) Linda On 1/17/09 2:05 PM, "Cherrie Nolden" wrote: > This message is from: Cherrie Nolden > > Usually it is the other way around: the dog should bond with assertive adult > chickens when he/she is a pup. You will occasionally find a LGD that has such > a calm temperament (low prey drive) that it will take to guarding chickens > despite prior bonding to other species (goats, sheep, cattle, etc). > Alternatively, having a dog that already guards chickens will help in training > a new dog to the birds. Without such a dog, you need a shock collar, a > comfortable chair in a blind, and a couple of weeks of constant surveilance to > intercept any chicken-chasing with a zap. > > We are fortunate that our Fjords like the dogs. Some horses hate large dogs > and will keep them out of the pastures. > > If you like ducks but the quacking gets old, get some muscovies. They are > quackless, great de-buggers and attentive mothers. > > Cherrie > > > --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Linda Lottie User wrote: > >> Re chickens.assume he would need to bond with them when >> chicks to guard >> them??? I have not gotten any fowl for fear my dogs would >> chase/kill them. >> I did have two ducks, fenced, and a fox got one. The fox >> would come by >> looking at the other one...ended up taking the single duck >> back to the farm >> I got her from. She was a sweetie but wanted ME to hang >> with her all day - >> haha.and her CONSTANT quacking about drove me nuts! > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: LGDs and Fjords
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Exactly, Cherrie.that is another part of having Kodiak that I like. In the summer he wanders all over the property and neighborhood at night. So far no one has complained and I tell my neighbors what he is doing and they think it is great. During the day I keep him inside my property so he is not bothering lake parties and such - haha Re chickens.assume he would need to bond with them when chicks to guard them??? I have not gotten any fowl for fear my dogs would chase/kill them. I did have two ducks, fenced, and a fox got one. The fox would come by looking at the other one...ended up taking the single duck back to the farm I got her from. She was a sweetie but wanted ME to hang with her all day - haha.and her CONSTANT quacking about drove me nuts! On 1/17/09 1:20 PM, "Cherrie Nolden" wrote: > This message is from: Cherrie Nolden > > Our Pyr/St.Bernard cross has run off most coyotes, coons, opossums and skunks > from our property. Her job is chicken duty, but this also prevents the Fjords > from inadvertently picking up leptospira and other diseases/parasites that > these critters can harbor. > > Cherrie > 1dr Fjords > Kansas > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Burrr
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Robinactually, maybe I'll send my Irish Terrier.HE is the racoon killer - haha.has brought several home - YUK!! On 1/17/09 12:38 PM, "Robin Churchill" wrote: > This message is from: Robin Churchill > > Bring him down here Linda, this place is like a raccoon oasis and they are > brazen when they are in the trash or walking through the yard--he would have a > field day. They are not even the least bit afraid of the horses. > > Robin > > > > - Original Message > From: Linda Lottie > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:29:03 PM > Subject: RE: Burrr > > This message is from: Linda Lottie > > Carol..gosh, seems like the Great Pyr is a popular breed amongst we fjord > owners. I know of two others who own fjords as well. > > Yesterday I had a guest who was wearing a jacket with a raccoon collar. My > pyr wanted that collar in the worst way. Kodiak would not leave my guest alone > and kept trying to leap up and grab that "critter" - haha > > Just doin' his job :) > > Linda in WI > > > > > > > > Linda Baker Lottie > > > > www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com > > > > "The pain of surrendering a child to adoption is without a language" > > > > Spoken by a Professor of Psychology @ University of Minnesota > > > >> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:45:00 -0600 >> To: fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com >> From: watk...@mhtc.net >> Subject: Burrr >> >> This message is from: Roger and Carol Watkins >> >> Hi, >> I'm in southern Wisconsin and it only got to 34 below here. My >> Pyrenees also slept in the entry room of the house for the past two >> nights - first time ever. He came inside and plunked down and never >> moved all night. Even though the Shetland pony and the Fjord have a >> 3-sided shelter in the pasture, I did put them in their pony barn for >> the past two nights. I have found that those hand warmer packets are >> a miracle for keeping my hands warm when doing chores. If it's super >> cold I put one in each glove, otherwise I use just one and switch >> back and forth. Today it is a balmy 20 degrees. >> Carol in Mt. Horeb >> >> Important FjordHorse List Links: >> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >> Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: BRRRRRRR
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Same here Caroland, after my bragging on about my Great Pyr yesterday.he spent the night in the barn, not a PEEP out of him and he is right back in there this am. Temps near -40 must be his breaking point!!! Linda in WI On 1/16/09 7:49 AM, "Carol Makosky" wrote: > This message is from: Carol Makosky > > OMG!! > > This is a first for me. I have never been exposed to 38 below in my > life until this morning. I just yelled out to Heidi to get her own hay > this morning. And my harness club, Northwoods Harness, has a > rally/parade this Sat., but it is suppose to get to 15 or so above by > then & will seem like spring. Time to throw another log in the > furnace. Yah Fairbanks Jean, you call us wimps down here when we whine > about below zero. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: cold
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Fred.you might remember that I had a small mare attacked by what most everyone felt was a young cougarlast spring. When "Kodiak" wandered on to my property a fellow fjord owner suggested he was sent to keep the cougar off the property. I think that is the truth. I love watching him work. He gets between me and a visitor as if to say "I will make sure you are safe:)" Yet, is the sweetest most loving dog to anyone who is my friend. I have a "Bear", too..mine is a 175 lb English Mastiff:) You can see the two giants and everyone else on the farm at my blog. All three of my dogs love it when I take them for a "walkie" (so demeaning to such BIG dogs - haha) to the top of my favorite hill.we all sit and think So, you have 5 PYRS??? Lots of brushing...and if you get them groomed, wow, a costly endeavor. Photos on a website??? I'd love to see them:) Linda in WI On 1/15/09 12:56 PM, "Frederick J Pack" wrote: > This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" > > Linda, > You should have 5 of them. We have three rescues and two "storebought" pups > now going on two years old. > > You should see the "Chinese Circus" when they were all playing together in > our deep snow.. > > Only problem was them bringing in Giant Snowballs on their feet when they > wanted inside for a nap. > > We have never had our Fjords or our Llamas bothered by coyotes, bear, > bobcats, or cougars since we got them. Our big male wouldn't let our > farrier in one day. I had to walk down to the main gate and tell "Bear" > that the farrier was OK > > It is amazing everybody gets along together except the Fjords HATE the > miniature mares, but love the little stallions. When in heat, the Fjords > drive the little guys nuts..showing...winking and blinking... > > Fred > > All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. > Fred and Lois Pack > Pack's Peak Stables > Wilkeson, Washington 98396 > > > > > . Linda Lottie > .Subject: RE: cold > > This message is from: Linda Lottie > > . > > My Great White Pyrenes is amazing. He virtually lives outside, by choice. > . > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Jane in Maine
This message is from: Linda Lottie User Oh, I do the hot water deal too..each eve I put hot water in the buckets and they don't feeze for a long time so each horse gets a nice drink after dinner. If it is not way below zero the horses keep the barn warm enough to keep the water from feezing hard. Linda in WI On 12/15/08 12:45 PM, "pedfjo...@aol.com" wrote: > This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com > > This message is from: "Don Brackett" > Oh the joys of winter. Best of course is an electric water heater that > floats in your tank but if you only occasionally need it than more effort > than it's worth. It also jacks up your electric bill painfully. > > If the ice is not too thick then I bring out a couple of buckets of hot > water. Pour one over the top of the ice, wait a bit and then kick the sides > of the tank all the way around until you have cracked the side ice freeing > the top covering of ice (hopefully not breaking it up but keeping the top > "cookie" whole). Reach in and pull it out, then quickly immerse your frozen > hands into the remaining hot water bucket. Breath a sigh of relief. Dry > your hands quickly on your snow pants where it leaves frozen hand prints, > put back on your gloves and dump remaining hot water into tank. Repeat > through out the day as needed. > > > OK, YOU are NUTS. > > OMG.have you been riding in Gails town lately : O > > HOT TANK HEATERS ROCK. > > Lisa * with a balmy 18* right now with more SNOW comming at us all the way > up from CA and Las Vegas ! > > > ** > Make your life easier with all your > friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolc > om0010) > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: HUH? Speaking of "warmbloods"
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hu, what a shame.taking two wonderful breeds and ending up with a "what"??? LJBL in WI On 11/19/08 3:58 PM, "Gina Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Gina Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What were these people thinking? A "Norwegian Warmblood"? > > http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-700546.aspx?search_id=cccb0431- > abbb-4e46-8e9f-63d256d69253 > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Free Fjord in Oregon
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He is a cutie.and, I feel badly when I read "he is last on the pecking order".thinking, depending on the herd, that could mean he is not getting enough to eat. I remember visiting a fellow with a fjord for sale. The horse came from Montana. Having just arrived, the horse was put out with his herdconsisting of draft, QH, grade, etc around 20 or so. The first thing I noticed was how thin the fjord was. He, too, was last in the pecking orderand, got the "dregs" of the hay pile. A friend purchased this particular fjord and he "blossomed" at her farm. If horses are going to be turned out in large groups.it is the owners responsibility to be sure each and every one of the horses is getting enough to eat. JMHO :) In my group of 6, there is virtually no fighting or serious posturing for food.alpha mare keeps them in check but she is not a bully or nasty about food. She's a fjord :) Linda in WI On 10/28/08 7:26 PM, "Megan Hanselman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Megan Hanselman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone need a cute pasture ornament or need a possible therapy horse? Saw > this guy on Craigslist and thought someone would want him. I could go check > him out/help get him if needed as he is only about an hour from me. > > http://eugene.craigslist.org/grd/894777516.html > > OK, back to lurk mode. > > Megan Hanselman > Starry Nights Stables > Dallas, Oregon > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #203
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your horse would barely have to chew with senior feed. You are right...freak stuff happens. I had a little pony attacked by what everyone agreed was a young cougar. Keep us posted on her progress. Linda in WI On 9/30/08 7:52 AM, "Paula Chmura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Paula Chmura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks guys. One of my initial thoughts on seeing this was that it could have > been a sheet metal injury because it is obviously from a straight edge, deep > slice. And we have had two hurricanes, one direct hit, one edge hit in the > last month. But I searched the field from top to bottom and there is just > nothing there. And I truly do not think this is a wound from a dog injury or > any other type of wild animal - the horses have no other marks on them other > than a single slashing wound on each. And this particular German Shepherd is > a farm dog who doesn't bother the horses and has been on the farm for seven > years. The barn owner's husband is an ex-police officer and the dog was > trained as his police dog. I think we have the dog to thank for stopping > whatever happened to the horses. > > I am going to look into video/camera type surveillance. Right now Galianna is > in the barn and I have been parking myself outside her stall almost 24/7 just > going home a couple of times a day to change and shower. The good news is her > swelling is way down and she is starting to eat hay! Her muzzle is still so > sore she can only eat it when it is really fluffed up and she doesn't have to > push down to the floor to get it. But at least she is getting some roughage > now. > > We will probably never be able to prove what happened to the horses. Frodo is > still out in that field. But he has always been a bit wary of strangers > (maybe because he gets ridden :) whereas Galianna is always the first one at > the fence and really an in your face with everybody type of horse. The farm > is full and there is nowhere else to put them. This is really a nice > facility with great care and there is nowhere else in town that I would even > consider boarding. Freak things like this could happen anywhere. If we moved > the horses would have limited field access and Galianna can't have that - she > has to have 24/7 pasture to stay healthy. And I just can't afford to buy a > place of my own right now. Boarding is my reality. > > Thanks for the support and kind words! > > Paula, Frodo and the brave Galianna > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fjord coloring ?
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good question, Corinne. I have one toomy 6 year old gelding, Hasse, is a lighter brown dun, with black stripe down his mane and tail, BUT, his striping down his back is red and the stripes on his legs are red.. Seems like his coloring is a combois this a common thing? Linda On 7/13/08 1:49 PM, "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So I have a new little guy and am baffled at his coloring ... his body is > brown dun but has grey undertones coming through and facial coloring is more > grey than brown. > How can I tell if he will be grey or if he is just a lovely brown? > Thanks!! > > Corinne Logan > Willows Edge Farm > Bothell, WA > (425) 402-6781 > www.willowsedgefarm.com > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Cowgirl inspiration
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Totally cool..hope I'm still ridin' and drivin' when I'm 101 - hahaha!!! LJBL On 6/28/08 9:04 AM, "Starfire Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For all of you girls out there, check this out. She's not riding Fjords, > but is quite an inspiration anyway. > > American Cowgirl <http://www.americancowgirl.com/film.htm> > > Beth The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: One hell of an adventure
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda...interestingly, my daughter was certain she was tracking small animal...but, after being at this clinic she is leaning to a "mixed" tack. She is comfortable with horses and getting more comfortable with cows...so, all in all it will make her more appealing to any rural clinic. No more puma.but, since the attack heard more talk that there is one in the area. I hope he finds some other herd to munch on - haha! I keep all my horses up close to the barn at night, just in case. Appreciate your interest...thanksLinda On 6/26/08 9:16 AM, "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Bonnie, thank God you and your two friends, McCauley and Shani, are all right. > I'm glad you had your cell phone with you and had the presence of mind to call > 911 and then used your whip on the man. Is that Fred's horse, Joline, you > were out with? She sounds like a super horse to remain calm with all of that > going on. You're also fortunate that your local police responded so quickly. > I hope the judge throws the man and his wife in jail for a good long while > when the case goes to court. I hate to recommend carrying a gun just to go > out driving with a horse,, but I don't know what else would give you adequate > protection. If you decide to carry a gun, you must know how to use it and > have the will to use it should such a situation arise. Again, I'm glad the > situation turned out as well as it did considering what happened. > > Linda, your daughter sounds like a fine young lady and you are justifiably > proud of her. Maybe she'll choose large animals since she seems to like her > rotation. Your horses sound neat too. Have you had any more problems with > the suspected puma? I hope not. > > Linda in Guben > _ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Form function and canter
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have enjoyed the discussion on cantering. My three fjords Sven is a trotter, hates to canter, and, isn't very good at it.Amen! 13.3trained to drive. We ride him a little bit. Sweetest guy ever and never quitsTemperment A+ Lena is as sweet as pie and will canter but it is not her favorite - yet, with determined work/training we have gotten her into great shape and she does well. I still remember the year my daughter rode her in the MN Horse Expo.Lena had been in training for two months and was fit as a fiddle. She moved with ease and her body floated. She and my daughter were a beautiful sight. To keep Lena in that condition requires diligent training and watching her weight like a hawk. Before we purchased her (at age 6 and in foal) she had been a brood mare since age 3. Her early training was both driving and under saddle. Her work ethic is amazing and her temperment is A+ ! I often use her for lessons. Hasse - Lena's son/Sire Woods Sven II - LOVES to canter. At 6 years of age he has had yearly spring training since age 3...usually 30-60 days. This year he found his legs and his canter. He is also the most "forward" with good leg movementnot rushy, but, has a huge walk and likes to move out with a purpose. He also likes to work and likes having a job. This past two weeks my daughter has ridden him almost every night and they are so pretty together. He is a bit longer legged and so is sheso, they have a nice presence. She loves him he loves her. His lope departures are amazing! After this visit SHE claims Hasse and I have Lena all to myself.perfect!!! Hasse's temperment is just like his mother.A+ Hasse's trainer the past two years rides and teaches working cow..he loves Hasse and is wowed by his athletic ability. First fjord for him. So, based on my three, it's clear that Hasse has the canter gene hands down:) He is also a bit of a rascal in the herd - haha - and a prankster with Anne and me. Furthermore WE raised him..maybe that is the answer!!! - hahaha! Our first foal... Happy trails..Linda Baker Lottie in WI Those of you who know Anne.she is in her last year of vet school, doing two week rotations. She is working at the Grantsburg vet clinic now, off to northern MN in July and off to Hawaii in January to work with injured sea turtles. Graduates May 2009. She is tracking small animal emphasis but this rotation has taken her to many cow farms - new to her - and she loves it. So, who knows all I know is.PROUD MAMA!!! :) On 6/23/08 9:33 PM, "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This message is from Phill Odden from Northwestern Wisconsin where it has > rained every day for several days but TODAY we put up 550 bales of pretty nice > dry grass hay. Other than lots of sore muscles, it feels mighty good. > > I have to agree with Lori in that the canter takes a great deal of training > that an inexperienced or even an experienced eleven year old shouldn't be > expected to do. Those fjords that have a nice canter, if canter is what you > want, have lots of added value. And someone did the work to make it happen. > Phil > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: brag for a friend
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What a wonderful compliment to Kristin and Jeager (and trainer Melissa) for their fabulous showing at the WSCA show. Congrats to them. To me, success at a WSCA open show is a special compliment :) Open shows are tough. My daughter Anne used to show our QH at open shows close to 15 years ago. In many areas competition was tough - breed show competing expensive and time consumingso open shows are a great place to show a nice well trained horse w/o the financial and time commitment of breed shows. I'll never forget the time Anne and I took Lena and baby Hasse and Sven to an open show in Princeton MN. Our goal was to get Lena and Hasse in the show ring (first time) without an incident - haha. Class was halter..three fjords and 22 big ass, beautiful quarterhorses!! The judge was so sweet and sooo complimentary of our fjords.but it was pretty clear we were no match for the "class of QH's" - and we understood:) We successfully reached our goal of show ring w/no embarrassing incidentso we were happy. So, it's off to champ show for Kristin and Jeager.what fun!!! Linda in NW WIhot today On 6/24/08 2:47 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Kristin Lee and Jaeger competed in a WSCA Open show here in Minnesota and won > the High > Point English Horse trophy against all Quarter Horses and Arabians. > With their winnings/placings, they have qualified to compete in the > English classes at the Champ Show held at the Minnesota State > Fairgrounds in September. Jaeger also placed 2nd in the open halter > class (behind a huge quarter horse) and the judge complimented Kristin > on her "nice" Fjord. > > Kristin wonders if Jaeger is the first Norwegian Fjord to qualify for > the Champ Show in Minnesota. Does anyone know??? > > > laurie, and oz, who only qualified in the eating hay division > > > ** > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use the "Best Friends" muzzle. On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, "debora seely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > What kind of muzzle do you have? > > Deb Seely > > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part > my > guys do well. > > The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. > > I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse > muzzle. > > The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? > > Linda > > > "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects > andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to > receive." > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: grazing muzzle > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face > badly.I > > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well > made > > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed > fleece > > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this > problem? > > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the > fjords > > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Pine-sol
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Heck, I use whatever I have on hand from baby shampoo (for the face) to Suave to Main and Tail.seems to me mine always look good - until the next roll - haha! Good ole' elbow grease and grooming should do the tricksoap is soapbut, I do think some conditioners are better than others. JMHO.Linda in WI On 5/30/08 8:42 AM, "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > OK, so here is one of the strangest horse cleaning products I've heard of > .. the folks down at the track use PINE SOL to wash their horses with. The > horses always look clean & shiney, but I can't imagine washing my horses > with the same thing I wash my floors with... I have used Dove Body wash and > they come out really nice and silky. No Showsheen needed. Has anyone else > ever tried Pine-sol? Any other strange things that make your horses look > pretty? > > Corinne Logan > Willows Edge Farm > Bothell, WA > (425) 402-6781 > www.willowsedgefarm.com > www.seattlecarriagerides.com > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #110
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carolhow interesting you suggest that. I had to tie my hands and stuff a sock in my mouth to keep from taking a donkey and her baby home while at the expo. Cutest pair I have even seen. Hu, maybe I should reconsider:) Linda in WI On 5/26/08 1:18 PM, "C Sweet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "C Sweet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ranchers with cattle or sheep have long put donkeys in with their herds to > fend off predatorsthey are AWESOME at self-preservation!!! Any thought > to adopting a BLM donkey?? Or any other available donkey??? Just a > thought, especially if it is the local predators trying to go after your > poor baby It is amazing how that part of the brain (anti-predator) > mules have intact, as well. > > Carole Sweet > Waterford, CA > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: need help
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kate.we do have eagles that nest nearby but the wounds are more like a 4 legged critter. So far, the most likely are small mountian lion, single wolf..both of which have been sighted in the area. Fencing is not a possibility. My pastures are clear and no fencing down on the perimeter. Thanks for taking time to respondLinda On 5/26/08 7:48 AM, "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: kate charboneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > I'm very glad your mare's okay. > > A neighbor's horse was attacked a couple springs ago by an adult male black > bear. Those marks were primarily rump & back. So I think that rules out > black bears, as your perpetrator. > > In northern MN we have many large owls, and eagles and I have seen them hunt. > I'd rule them out as your perpetrator.I'd do as someone else said & check for > old fencing left by previous farmers. Sometimes in the spring it will come up > out of the ground as the frost moves things around. > > I'd also seriously consider cougar/mountail lion. We have them here in our > area, there have been some problems (few & far between) and the marks are very > much as you describe. The most problem we had was when a guy released some > young adults that had been his "pets". They were not nearly as leery as the > fully wild cougars so there were many sightings, and their hunting skills were > poor. That made for a bad year for livestock in a suprisingly large area. > Victims I heard about were sheep, goats, yearling cows, and ponies. > _ > Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. > http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr > esh_family_safety_052008 > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need help
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes it helps a lot. I,too, wondered if it was a young animal. We do have some wandering that get away from captive situtations Thanks for your hubby's help.good source. Linda On 5/26/08 8:37 AM, "Alicia Encoyand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Alicia Encoyand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, My husband, who is an expirianced forester and a Park Ranger of two years > is pretty sure it was a young, inexpirianced Mountain Lion. He said that is > about the only animal that will attack the top of the animal like that. He > also said that if it had been a bear or a wolf, they would have attacked from > behing and probably killed your horse. An inexpirianced Mountain Lion though > would not have any pesitence and would give up if kicked. Hope this helps, > > Alicia > > > Alicia, Alex and Elizabeth Encoyand > 209-768-0281 > Sonora, California > www.mineshaftminiatures.com > "Raising quality American Miniature Horses" > > --- On Sat, 5/24/08, Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Need help > To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" <fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com> > Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 5:30 PM > > This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Fjord Lovers; > > I need some suggestions: > > Yesterday I turned out my Swedish Gotland mare (21 years old) at 6am, on the > pasture. She is turned out with a large paint gelding. > > At 1pm I went to bring them to the dry lot and found the Gotland with hair > missing, scratch marks and small puncture wounds. None were bleeding but > some had a little blood. > > It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the > back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a > large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. > > Lots of hair was missingbut no open gash wounds or open claw swipes. > > I heard nothing but was cleaning the barn, radio on and vacc running. > > Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? > > We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area > but sightings are very, very rare for the cats. The south wall of the > pasture is a large area of pine trees and the surrounding property is a > large vacent woods. There are many large trees in the pasture and two > ponds. > > My Gotland does not hear as well as the other horses and she limps a bit. > > She is ok and seems none the worse for wearbut, I am scared to turn her > out again in that pasture. She is much smaller than a fjord.finer boned > - more like a mid size pony. > > The paint had no wounds but dang, he lost a shoe, so thinking he was in > muddy swampy grass and sprung up very quickly in response to the attack and > left his shoe behind! > > To make this fjord related.I love mine:) > > Linda in NW WI > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Need help
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Fjord Lovers; I need some suggestions: Yesterday I turned out my Swedish Gotland mare (21 years old) at 6am, on the pasture. She is turned out with a large paint gelding. At 1pm I went to bring them to the dry lot and found the Gotland with hair missing, scratch marks and small puncture wounds. None were bleeding but some had a little blood. It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. Lots of hair was missingbut no open gash wounds or open claw swipes. I heard nothing but was cleaning the barn, radio on and vacc running. Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area but sightings are very, very rare for the cats. The south wall of the pasture is a large area of pine trees and the surrounding property is a large vacent woods. There are many large trees in the pasture and two ponds. My Gotland does not hear as well as the other horses and she limps a bit. She is ok and seems none the worse for wearbut, I am scared to turn her out again in that pasture. She is much smaller than a fjord.finer boned - more like a mid size pony. The paint had no wounds but dang, he lost a shoe, so thinking he was in muddy swampy grass and sprung up very quickly in response to the attack and left his shoe behind! To make this fjord related.I love mine:) Linda in NW WI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: How much time on pasture equals one flake of grass hay?
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MarciaI am chuckling at the sight of your fjords galloping for their grain:) My three can be out in the pasture, I walk out there, tell them to get home and they head to the barn. They have learned that if they don't goI go get my Gator and scoot them home from the Gator. Once up at the barn I lead them with my hand under their jowl - to the dry lot - and tell them what good ponies they are :) Don't ya just love fjords??? Linda in WI On 5/21/08 11:30 PM, "Marcia Pace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Marcia Pace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Amy, > > I'm in central Washington State and my pasture is pretty lush right now. My > fjords go out to graze for 2 hrs in the a.m. and 2 hrs in the p.m. They are > not receiving any hay. They were slowly transitioned off of the hay and onto > pasture once the pasture could support their grazing. It is labor intensive > but saves a lot of $$ considering the price of hay. > > In July, as things dry out they will be allowed to stay out a bit longer. > They are all an appropriate weight and good about the program. They each > get 1 lb. daily of Purina's Mare & Maintenance. It balances their diet and > encourages them into the dry lot ( 1/2 in the morning and 1/2 in the p.m). > Once they are used to the routine they come galloping in with a shake of the > bucket. > > I bought a hanging scale from Vally Vet a couple of years ago and hanging > hays bags that make it very easy to weigh hay. When the fjords are on a hay > (timothy) diet they usually get 1.25% of their body weight daily. Which is > often a good size flake (6-7 lbs) a.m. and p.m. For every 10 degrees below > freezing I increase their hay ration by 10%. I found that without weighing > the hay it was too easy to overfeed. > > Marcia Pace > www.fjordfarm.com > > > > This message is from: Amy Goodloe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Does anyone know how long a horse would need to be out on pasture to > get the equivalent of a flake of grass hay? When they were getting > hay, they each got one flake in the morning and one at night, so I'm > thinking I should leave them out there just long enough to get an > equivalent amount of food and then keep them in dry lot the rest of > the time, with a little low calorie hay for something to munch on. > > --Amy > > ~ > Marehaven Farm ~*~ Longmont, CO > http://www.marehaven.org > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tick Control
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use the tick spray and wash the tails with tick shampoo...but, I think the shampoo is hard on the dock. I am going to try the hair spray! Linda in WI On 4/16/08 9:41 AM, "Ellen Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Ellen Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > I have used it on my horses the first year I had them. But now I have 6 horses > running around so that gets to be expensive. > Another maybe not so well know remedy is to spray the dock of the tail with > some cheap hair spray. (Fred's, dollar general etc) > Not as toxic as spraying with bug spray but just as effective. > I haven't seen a tick on them now for the past year and a half. The downside > is that you have to do it every day or every other day. And it rains away. But > when it rains, I don't see any ticks on them anyhow. > Ellen. > > you wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Has anyone used "EquiSpot" for tick control? > We have had so many cases of Lyme disease around here - > (Southern New Hampshire) and this year is supposed to be the worst. > A friend mentioned "EquiSpot" - like the Frontline one puts on dogs > for tick control with her horses. > Anyone try it? > Thanks - Nancy in NH > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Shedding
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, spring can be a ways away. It takes months for me to get all three fjords shed out. One has to be really shed out by mid Aprilhe is going to the MN Horse Expo :) LJBL in WI On 2/4/08 6:37 PM, "Emily Wigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:19 AM, fjordhorse-digest wrote: > >> Ivan has started to shed, can Spring be far behind? >> >> Bernadine Karns >> Nottawa Crossing Fjords > Biscuit is shedding as well! So much that she rubbed on a no-climb > mesh fence overnight and there was a lot of hair there to greet me > this morning! I can see where she sleeps overnight too, by the hair > on the ground. The days are so much longer! > Emily > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re anesthesia for castration
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My horses and my goats are put under anesthesia for castration. I held one of my first male baby goats while he was castrated (told it was not that big a deal), no anesthesia, and vowed I would never, never castrate an animal like that again!!! Animal care facilities are there to provide the best care available for your pet. A facility that offers the best, AND, gives the owner all options is simply doing it's job. Of course it is ok to say "no" to a vet/procedure. As for the horse gelded in the clinic..owner choice. My colt was gelded on my propertyand yes, he was anesthetized.I had a clean area to geld him and for him to recover. Maybe the other owner did not. LJBL in WI On 10/28/07 6:15 AM, "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Great posting, Lisa! Some people just show a lack of common sense and > selfishness in these situations and never think of what the smoke and > contaminants it contains does to their lungs or the lives of the rescuers who > have to go in to help them when it's almost too late. I admire Jeff and all > of the rescuers who put their lives on the line each and every day for others. > As we now know, two of the fires were arson. I hope they catch the > perpetrators and send them away where they can't do that anymore. I suspect > arsonists are similar to child molesters in that that they are never cured of > the urges and the most that can be done is to catch them and send them away to > protect the public. What do you think, Jean G? > > I thought of some simple, but common sense little things to prepare for an > emergency of any type while I was watching the fire news on CNNI. First, if > you take medication, have all your medication in one place so you can quickly > put it in a ziploc bag and then into a tote bag of some sort. Also do that > with contact lens solution and extra pairs of CL and glasses if you wear them. > These are things that you must take with you if you have to leave quickly > You can put personal papers like birth certificates and marriage licenses, > Social Security and VA records in a folder to grab quickly and take with you. > This came in handy for me Monday when I had to take my very sick oldest cat to > a large vet clinic 2 hours away and the idiot local vet didn't tell me she was > going to send little Sonja there when I saw her on Sunday, but waited until I > brought her back at 3 PM Monday and we had to stay overnight so she could have > an ultrasound. Please pray for poor Sonja, she's very sick. > > Jerry, the article on saying no to your vet is excellent. I watch a German > program regularly, "Menschen, Tieren and Doktoren," (People, Animals and > Doctors) and always amazed at how many ultrasounds and CAT scans they do on > small animals of all types here. And I once saw a vet admit a horse to the > hospital and put him under general anesthesia just to geld him. Maybe it's > different now but I never saw that in the US. The doctor at this clinic where > I had Sonja recommended an endoscopy, but I had to decline because it is just > too expensive and I know the excellent vet I had in Mexico wouldn't want to do > that. We have to remember that we are the clients, the ones who pay the bill, > and the animals are the patients and we have to put limits on the vets > sometimes. > > I hope you are all safe and that Jeff will be able to come home soon. > > Linda in Guben > > > > _ > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl > mailtagline > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: biothane harness
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen...I purchased a Smuckers biothane pairs harness ... A long time driving instructor helped me get them fitted to my fjords. As he untangled and adjusted the pieces he remarked several times about the quality. He thought it was very good/using high quality materials and fittings. LJBL in WI On 8/12/07 10:30 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am contemplating getting a biothane pairs harness.The one horse job I hate > is cleaning leather.I know that there are many makers such as > Camptown.Smuckers,Zilco,etc.Does anyone have any comments on these or what to > look for or avoid?Thanks,Ellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjords as a first horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am asked, often, if the fjord is as gentle as they seem, as I wander around the MN Horse Expo. I ask the person if they have horse experience. I ask if the horse is for a child. I ask what they are going to use said fjord for. With that information, I usually tell someone a fjord is like any other horse.that the horses seen at the expo are well trained. The mare I bring to the expo, I share, is not for a child or an adult with no horse experience. She is a wonderful marealso, very well started initially by Patti Walter.and, she is alpha mare and has "opinions" that occasionally have to be readjusted, which she "adjusts", without issues.. Had she been my very first horse.she might not be the favorite she is today in my herd. With her strong mindedness and strength, along with her knowledge of how big her head really is :) . A novice or child could get into trouble. With all that said.anyone who is buying a first horse, IMO, would be wise to work with a trainer and have mentors with horse experience who can help if needed. To do otherwise is, IMO, foolish. Anyone who sells a horse to a beginner with no horse experience, has, IMO, an obligation to the horse and new owner to be honest and forthright about the need for mentorship and working with a trainer. Even, dear Sven, Mr. Steady Eddy, is very strong and dives for the nearest blade of grass if allowed. Any little kid would not stand a chance against Sven going after a nibble :)..nor would, a timid, wishy-washy adult. But then, when I think about itthe little "mini" in my herd finds strength that surprises me, .and, oh yes, the appy.she can fuss and stew about stuff. The only one who is light as a feather and watches my space all the time is my QH.and he was trained for QH breed shows, stops on a dime, and, was the standard as I learned about "ground manners"..so, I expect all the rest to do the same. It ain't been easy - hahaha!! Just thoughts tonight..LJBL in WI On 5/9/07 5:44 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> More specifically, do you think that Fjords (as a breed, not specific >> horses) ARE or ARE NOT suitable for children, novice horse people, as >> family >> companions, and for therapeutic riding programs? > I am in no way an expert, as I only own one fjord and she is my first horse. > BUT I am definitely a novice rider and can speak about my experiences. My > Fjord, Britta, has been as absolute dream as a first horse. She has taught > both me and a friend of mine who is also taking lessons on her a tremendous > amount. My trainer, who has experience with many breeds, but never a fjord > before, assures me that I managed to buy the perfect horse. I think it is > partly because she is a fjord, partly because Patti Jo Walter did a FANTASTIC > job training her, and partly because I have lots of training experience with > dogs, and do not accept being "walked on" by ANY animal I own. I can see how > with a really wimpy owner, who spoils their fjord and does not set limits, > that a fjourd could use their strength and willpower to be the "boss". But if > you are fearful, and inclined to spoil your pets, you really should NOT own an > animal that weighs 1000# anyway!!! And you probably should not own most do! > gs either, for that matter. > Julie Snape > Madison, WI > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: more moles!
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe.try oil of peppermint on a cotton ball down the holesit works for micemaybe moles. LJBL in WI On 4/15/07 2:52 PM, "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I still say, and maybe it was because Charley weighed 1800 pounds, the moles > do not like the vibration nor weight, otherwise, why was his field never > mounded? Gunnar's field has no moles and he does not weigh that much. But my > yard can be like a field of mounds until the trapper comes. Maybe letting > the horses graze on the lawn would help, but I think Gunnar would clean out > the raspberries first, then the pansies etc. Jean PS Smoke, gum etc never > worked here. There were mountain beaver here when I first came and those are > truly dangerous as they build caverns. Charlie's front leg went to the knee > in one at the canter but his agility saved him. Jean Gayle > > > > > > Author > 'The Colonel's Daughter" > Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 > Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press > 7403 Blaine Rd > Aberdeen, WA 98520 > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: open showing
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kate.give your boy time. Winter is the worst time of the year for "looks"fjords mature slowly. If you are used to the "other" breeds, well, just give him time. About this time of year I have to trim the "goat hairs" as I am just tired of looking at the "yak" look :) Linda On 3/2/07 6:15 AM, "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Linda, > > I bet that was really a sight; your group of 3 Fjords amidst a sea of > AQHA's. :) If Fred looked better these days, I'd be more confident > bringing him. But he really does look like a garage sale conglomeration > right now; so I do feel a bit sheepish taking him in halter of all > things! But it's all about his mind, and not the least bit about a > ribbon. I'm glad to hear that the judge was welcoming and complimentary > to your family. :) > > Kate in Northern MN > >> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:56:33 -0600 >> From: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: ugly stages >> >> This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Kate.my daughter and I took our gelding and our mare and foal to > an open >> show to "get experience" for the fjord show. Like you > mentionedwe were >> with about 20 quarterhorses in a halter class.and nice ones at > that! >> >> The judge wandered through the quarterhorsesthen, over to us and > said >> what a nice group of fjords we had. >> >> We stuck out like sore thumbs and enjoyed every minute of it - > haha!! >> >> Linda in WI >> >> >> > > > > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best > route! > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kate.my daughter and I took our gelding and our mare and foal to an open show to "get experience" for the fjord show. Like you mentionedwe were with about 20 quarterhorses in a halter class.and nice ones at that! The judge wandered through the quarterhorsesthen, over to us and said what a nice group of fjords we had. We stuck out like sore thumbs and enjoyed every minute of it - haha!! Linda in WI On 2/28/07 8:46 PM, "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You guys are really great. :) > > 15 hands is what my "magic string test" tells me. I take a piece of > baling twine and stretch it from the point of his elbow to the point of > his pastern, uh, fetlock, uh, that pointy point above his, you know, > ankle... (yes I feel dumb) then that length of baling twine goes from his > elbow up into the air above his wither & that's what I measure with my > stick. The magic string says he's going to be in the ballpark of 15H. > That's 6 inches taller than Mama, and 3 inches taller that Dad. This was > not supposed to happen. > > 3 days, 3 months, and 3rd birthday. Okay, this is timely. Fred will > turn 3 on March 23, I'll drag hubby out there with a video camera. Then > I'll pour over video of movement and structure until I can't see > straight. I am eager to see him next to a bunch of his age mates at > Blue Earth. > > We have our first show on March 25, the gal I've been taking showmanship > lessons from says it's too soon for showmanship, but we'll be in halter > class. It'll be us and a bunch of AQHA's; think the judge will notice > us? Or should I wear an outfit with lots of bling-bling in order to be > noticed? :) At our first showmanship lesson I was prepared to work on > the fancy stuff, like how do you get him to pivot?? The lesson gal said, > "actually we need to work on leading". Verrry Humbling. So in a couple > of weeks my growthy, gangley, wobbly, very sweet boy and I will be in a > halter class at an open show for the first time. I think this will > qualify as a *good experience* for us both! :) > > > > Find what you need at prices you‚ll love. Compare products and save at > MSN® Shopping. > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: can't go wrong
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh ya, for sure.I own Fair Acres Sventh best guy. Today, I took him out for the first time in awhilegood as gold. He is just such a sweetie. He was born on Roger and Diane's farm.18 years ago. He looks darn good. Tomorrow he goes to town to meet the kids at the libraryhe will get lots of pets :) LJBL in WI On 6/27/06 5:47 PM, "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> ( Was I ever lucky to find Roger and Diane Whitney who steered my first >> decisions. ) > > You were lucky to have gotten Roger & Diane as your first contacts with the > Fjord breed. Not only are they two of the nicest people in the industry, > they have fantastic horses.(Anvil's Steinfinn linage). > > Pat Holland
Re: Crossbreeding: Total Heresy?
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Jeaninteresting - LJBL On 6/26/06 9:53 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Here is one website: http://www.highlandponyenthusiasts.co.uk/ > > You can google for others. > > They are from Scotland mostly, Here is some info from the above website: > > "Highland ponies vary in height from 13 hands to 14.2 hands and, although > some of the smaller animals naturally tend to be lighter in type, they all > should have substance, show eight to nine inches of good bone and be > capable of carrying more weight than most ponies of similar size. In > general appearance they are compact, with good fronts, shoulders and > withers, strong legs and well-developed quarters. They must be of true pony > type and not little horses. Highland ponies have always been regarded as > utility animals. For generations they served as pack and pannier carriers > and were also ideally suited to all kinds of farm work, from ploughing the > fields and carrying the crofters to market, to bringing home the peat > across treacherous and boggy ground. Although mechanization has largely > ousted the ponies from these traditional tasks, some are still used for > light carting, row-crop work, and by cattlemen and shepherds on the hills. > They are also used quite widely for forestry, dragging thinnings out of > steep or soft ground, and for carrying bundles of young trees for planting > to sites where motor vehicles cannot go...>>>>>>>>>>>> > The fact that Highlands perform well in comparatively slow work such as > trekking, forestry and deer-carrying suggests, quite rightly, that they > have a calm, steady temperament. This makes them outstandingly suitable for > the nervous or elderly, and they have also been used successfully as mounts > for disabled riders - all of whom appreciate their confidence-giving > attributes. However, it must not be thought that, because they are kind and > reliable, they are also dull. For many a Highland has shown itself to be a > keen, active ride in the hunting field and, correctly schooled, to be able > to compete with great success in Pony Club and Riding Club activities - > making up by sure-footedness and handiness what it may lack in outright > speed. With the present revival in harness work both for showing and for > pleasure, the ponies are once more proving their worth in this field also. > Safe, reliable, friendly, a good, comfortable ride, constitutionally strong > and hardy, attractive to look at, and with considerably more versatility > than is generally appreciated, the Highland pony has so much to > offer.>>>>>>>>>>> > The fortunate owners of these delightful animals have, as a rule, only one > thing to worry about - their ponies' ability to grow fat on 'nothing but > fresh air'. This is something which applies to most Mountain and Moorland > breeds because the natural foodstuffs of their habitats are generally of > poor quality and sparse in quantity. But the Highlands probably react more > quickly than most to lusher pastures and easily become over-weight. This > unfortunately makes far too many of them appear heavy and ungainly - a > travesty of the true Highland. Careful feeding and exercise will, however, > restore the pony to a more healthy, well-proportioned condition. >>>>>>>> > The old Celtic-type pony from which all native ponies are believed to > descend has, in the case of the Highland, been subject to many other > influences - Arab, percheron, Clydesdale, Norwegian, roadster, even (in one > instance) American trotting horse. Environment and selective breeding also > played their customary roles. Similarities between present-day Highlands > and the Norwegian Fjord pony - the dun colour, the dorsal eel stripe and > the zebra stripes on the legs - suggest an early Scandinavian > influence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>(From "A Highland Breed History", on the above > website) > > Sound a lot like Fjords, don't they? > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska > > > > >> Jeanfrom where do the Highland Ponies originate? Have a website? Just >> curious...never heard of them. Linda in WI
Re: Crossbreeding: Total Heresy?
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeanfrom where do the Highland Ponies originate? Have a website? Just curious...never heard of them. Linda in WI On 6/26/06 7:09 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Where would we go if the Fjord displayed degeneration, to the Haflinger? I've >> always felt there was a vague similarity there, physically at least, tho I >> far >> prefer the Fjord's temperament. > > I would think the Highland Pony would be a better bet. They sure look a > lot like Fjords with long manes! Dun colors, temperment, etc. > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska with Dark clouds and thunderstorms all around. 70 > degrees
Re: Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Geniethis is a friend and I think $1.00 is fair. Twelve years ago we paid $.50 a mile for our trainer to haul. My friend is a poor vet student friend of my daughtersI'll give her a little break. But, still nice to know the going rate in case I am asked again. BTWnext week I am taking Sven to the city of Grantsburg Library for the summer kids reading program. I'll take Sven, my polka-dot Leapord App, and my sz A mini. Daughter Anne is helping. Hoping we get our photo in the paper. Whooohooo, fjords LJBL in WI On 6/22/06 5:04 PM, "Genie Dethloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've always paid $1.00/mile. If it is a local trip or they are just > taking my horse, they would charge both ways. If it is on the way to > somewhere they are going anyway with other horses, then they charge > one way (mileage out of the main route is a little more per mile or > they charge both ways). Any charge less than $1.00/ mile would be a > "gift" to your friend.
Re: hauling
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Agree, Jeanand to be honest, I don't really like to haul others horsesjust not my thing. LJBL On 6/22/06 6:05 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks for all the input and to Linda for asking the question! Yes, I > think I will keep track of the miles and charge $.50 /mile round > trip. That is a good compromise I think, for my friend...who is really > just an acquaintance who just bought a Fjord last year! After all it IS > wear and tear on my truck and on me plus my time! > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska > > >> I charge .50 per mile for my birthday party service. I figure it helps with >> all the other expenses and wear and tear on your rig.
Re: hauling
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the input everyoneI think I'll go for around $.60 a mile. linda On 6/22/06 5:09 PM, "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > Definitely figure it round trip. > Laura
Re: Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeanhummm, I am thinking more like 55 cents a milebut, that is including wear and tear on the vehicle and my time. I am wondering too, if I count the trip home in the calculations. Thanks for your thoughtsothers? Linda On 6/22/06 2:23 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am wondering the same thing. Considering the cost of gas you might > calculate how many miles per gallon your outfit gets (hauling a trailer > with horse in it) and start from there. > If my old 3/4 ton F250 gets 10 miles per gallon AT BEST when pulling a > loaded trailer ( more like 8 or less I think) and a gallon costs $2.90, > then it is at least $.29/ mile just for gas. So I think I am going to > charge $.30/ mile for the total trip on a local haul here: empty to pick up > horse, and full to the clinic, and then empty back home. Probably > about 40 miles @ $.30/mile or at least $12 to haul the horse TO the > clinic, and another $12 to haul the horse back to the owners home. And > that covers just the gas. I think I will charge her $25 to $30 total as > she is a friend. > > Does that sound reasonable to other folks? > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and will be 70 degrees today. > > > >> Hi...can someone give me an idea what I might charge to haul a horsedoes >> one charge by the mile? Linda in WI
Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi...can someone give me an idea what I might charge to haul a horsedoes one charge by the mile? Linda in WI
Re: Breeding question
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arduthno explainin' necessary.just get the darn thing. I have a similar idea for my barn.LJBL On 6/3/06 6:01 PM, "Ardeth Obenauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My mare, Jayne, is in foal right now and not due for another month. When > the early breedings didn't take last year, I asked my vet about summer > babies here in Tennessee and was told it shouldn't be a problem. While not > the ideal time for the mare to foal, there is a lot we can do to keep the > baby cool, primarily keeping them inside during the hottest hours with fans > on. Other fjord owners have told me pretty much the same thing. I've got > my eye on a portable air conditioner at Sam's but I don't know how I'd > explain that to my husband! :) > > Ardeth Obenauf > The Lazy AO Farm > Shelbyville, TN
Re: breeding question
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CynthiaI understand re "the world revolves around ME". However, I am starting to see a change in Hassewhat was once a pain in the butt to deal with him is now calm and ordinary. He seems to be settling in to "routine" and what is expected of him. I see him being less "in my face" like a wiggly little stinker...and, more respectful of my space and my presence. Could it be he is finally maturing mentally? He goes tomorrow to the trainer I believe he is ready. Linda in WI On 6/3/06 6:24 PM, "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > As the owner of a Fjord who will be 3 on August 31st, I can't say I see any > difference in him from colts born earlier in the year. Teddy, aka The Brat, > aka Starfire Chiron, is a pretty normal nearly three year old in every way - > though for some reason he thinks he is a very special guy and the world is > his to conquer (especially the fence).
Re: Feeding and Time
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha JoI am chuckling. At the expo this year I brought my hayand we called it "the crappy hay". It is GREAT because the horses can chew on it all day and not get fat. It is stemy and they have to work hard to sniffout the good stuff, then, they just graze on the rest. My three fjords do great on this stuff...the app and QH - nope, so, they are on senior feed. Weird, huh? Linda in WI On 5/13/06 2:50 PM, "Marsha Jo Hannah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [...] We measure the horses flake of hay >> by weight [...] each horse is different, so >> each needs a bit different feeding regime, and adjusts say if the >> horse is getting too fat/too thin, etc. Most places I've been at the >> average time for a horse to eat would be about 1 1/2 hours [...] >> [...] so like a horse that is done totally eating in a 1/2 hour, >> to me is NOT getting enough food? >> [...] >> Reena >> who has worked herself into a tizzy. > > Several things are possible. The horse in question may simply be "low > man on the totem pole" who is used to being fed in a herd situation, > i.e. he has learned that he'd better eat as fast as he can, so his > ration is gone before anyone else comes looking for it! > > Another possibility is that the hay being fed is "too good". It's too > easy to chew, so can be eaten very rapidly. In this case, the horse > is probably getting enough calories, but may not be getting enough > "chewing time"---which could lead to chewing up the barn, fences, his > neighbor's tail, etc. IMHO, alfalfa hay falls in this category. > > I deliberately buy grass hay that is a little over-mature and strawy. > To get the same nutrition, I have to feed a little more of it, plus > the coarse texture takes more chewing. I think this is healthier > for them---food goes into the system more slowly, and they can work > at it longer, sort of simulating grazing. > > OTOH, Fjords are really good at making food disappear > > But, yes, the only valid test of "enough food" is whether the animal > is maintaining a good weight on that ration. > > Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! > 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: New Home for Knutsen Fjord's Søren
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dan...he is beautifulmove here to WI - haha.I hope to breed my mare, Lena, within the next 5 years. Had her son, Hasse, out today with the saddle on and a bridlehe is so cute. Taller and looks GREAT western. Like his mama, he loves to go and see and look around. He leaves for training under saddle June 1today we just walked, both of us with our feet on the GROUND :) However, I also checked and sure enough.TICKS!! Check your horses tailsticks love to nest in them. I use flea and tick shampoo for dogs. BTW...are you bringing Soren to the 25th Anniversary Show Linda Baker Lottie On 5/8/06 2:23 PM, "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Greetings, > > Olivia Farm wishes to congratulate Fred Barb Lynch of Benton City, > Washington on their purchase of the outstanding young stallion Knutsen Fjord's > Søren. This son of Flotren (84.75 conformation and movement) and our mare > O.H. Sadie (85.25 conformation and movement) will be a wonderful addition to > their breeding program. > > We are excited that Søren will be standing nearby as we look forward to > breeding to him in the future. We are so confident in Søren's future that we > even retained a couple of breedings under the terms of the sale! For the > latest pictures of Søren you can look at his NFHR Pony-Web page: > http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100585&HorseName=Soren&Page=1&So > rt=0 . > > > Happy Fjording! > Dan Watanabe > Olivia Farm, Inc. > www.oliviafarm.com
Re: crusties in ears
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> More and more I am inclined to try your methodessential oils. I hate using the flysprays cuz I feel as tho they don't really work longer than it takes me to walk out of the paddocks. Along with natural methods, I plan to try fans in all the lean-tos and fly masksnot sure just how to deal with the tummy area.need some real ammunition for that area !! Don't forget to watch for ticks on the tail dockseveral years ago I had a nightmare infestation of all 5 horses. Now, I shampoo with flea and tick product now and then just to get those burried deep. Trying to wash a fjord tail is no small task. Raniy in WI.and green! Linda Baker Lottie near Grantsburg On 5/1/06 1:45 PM, "Sharon O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Sharon O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Krist,W > > < bloody.>> > > What I do is put some tea tree oil on a cotton ball (@ $4 a bottle at > Walmart-in with the vitamins) and wipe the inside of both ears. Its an > antiseptic. It gets rid of the crusties that are there in @ a day or > two, heals, and soothes. I will also swipe the ears before a ride and it > keeps the no-see-ums from around their head. During the spring, summer > and fall I wipe her ears just about every time I groom her. > > good luck, > Sharon in So. Cal.
Re: trailering
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark...no problem with the leadsand the parelli are probably taught to stand and stay anyway:) Leads can be attached through the windows and plopped across their backs. I get in the trailer with my guys...all are good and only once in awhile I get a little smooshed because I put myself in a tight spotI mean, a fjord body just cannot get smaller like THAT!! So far so goodI teach to back out even if they can turn around.good training for them and they go nice and slowLJBL in WI On 4/26/06 4:17 PM, "Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One of the reasons I brought up the subject is because with the stock > type trailer when you unload the horse backwards, you really have to get > into the trailer with the horse. This is because with a lead rope on > the horse unless you have a rope connected to both sides the horse tends > to want to turn around and come head first. > > So if you back your horses out, are you getting into the trailer and > backing the horse out from the horses head? > > With a stall type 2 horse trailer this isn't a problem, as the horse has > no width to turn around, and you can back them out without getting into > the trailer. > > Just curious as to weather you actually get into the trailer when you > back them out. We were trying to train them Parelli and they have you > back them out without going into the trailer yourself. They teach the > owner to avoid getting into the trailer with the horse if at all > possible and training the horse on how to load walking in forward but > unload backing out. Of course they have big fancy expensive trailers, > probably mostly slant load in their shows, which we do not have. I > would think at some point you would have to get into the trailer to > attach the lead rope and string the lead rope out the back. I guess > every situation is a little different, as far as 2 horse trailers, vs. > stock, vs. slant load and a person would just have to assess the > situation and do what they think is safe in their situation and with > their horse. > > I haven't had the issue with the horses skinning the backs of their > legs, as we stop the horses before they walk off, they usually sorta > look down and assess the situation some before they walk off. > > Mark Skeels > > > > This message is from: "Janice Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We have done quite a bit of long-haul trailering with both stock > trailers and slant stall trailers. When trailering with the stock > trailer, we do just what Karen McCarthy does. Start with them tied and > then turn them loose if they are riding quietly. They almost always > turn and face the rear and rarely move around at all. > > As far as backing out versus coming out face first...I have seen several > bad situations in which horses got their hind legs skinned up by coming > out face first. A good ol' broke horse might be just fine, but a young > horse or skittish horse can come out too quickly when allowed to come > out face first. Backing them out leaves me in control of the process. > Not too fast, one step at a time is a good lesson in handling in > general, and in my opinion the safest way to unload horses in most > trailering situations. > > Janice Lee > Little Farm Fjords > Valley, Nebraska
Re: In Your Face
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, not sure I would say "fear" but, once a horse learns that no matter whathe is not the bossthings settle down. Takes a lot of pratice and repitition. You have heard of this? As you work on a taskif the horse can do perfectly three times, quitif not, go back to #1 and start over until successful three times. I find it is not long and they seem to get the program. Many of my problems are trainer laziness :) Hate to admit, but true. I usually come to life a little more in warmer weather...get real lazy in winter. LJBL On 4/26/06 10:57 AM, "Ellen Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Ellen Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > A trainer from around here tells me that horses should have 2 things put in > them; > The loving. > The fear of god (read the master). > I haven't a clue if he's right. I guess it's a (too??) simple description. > He always says that Kari has enough of the loving in her and that he will > need to put the fear in her when he starts training her. > I've told him that if he can train my horse without ruining her, he's > welcome to do so. > I've seen him work and he's always very gentle. But I guess that's because > the other (QH) already have the fear in them. They need the loving. > As to the dressage whip: > You'll be needing that for dressage. You don't want him to fear the tool > that you'll use for training him. > How about a cattle stick? > I don't know if I'm doing any good thinking here (reactions welcome), but > that would be a tool that you normally don't use (and therefore better > suited???) > Just an idea. > Ellen. > > > Lisa Wiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" > > Ellen, > > I have done similar but he doesn't care. He is a very steady boy. I > actually have to push him where I want him. I am going to start carrying a > dressage whip and use it as an extension of my arm to keep him back. > Lisa Wiley > Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs > Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose > FASTeam > www.MyTurnabout.com > www.CookiesAlaDuck.com > > > > - > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates > starting at 1¢/min.
Re: In your face
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MarshaI completely agree. IMO, allowing the little nosey guys to 'help' just encourages the mischief and the game. My 4 year old is still "in my face" and too rushyand, completely spoiled by his mother and uncleso, last week I put "Mr. Too Much" in a turnout with two older horses who have NO time for him and his nonsense or alone. I work with him everytime I ask him to do somethingand we wait, and wait at times, just for the sake of waiting. When the horse expo is over, Mr. Tooo Much, will become the horse I focus on and I think that is what he needsa real JOB. We all need to ask if we have an annoying behavior going on...are we encouraging it? I believe in putting a horse in a stall or tied, now and then, just to learn to be quiet and patient. What is "cute" at home is usually not cute at a show or clinic.so, now, I need to get my rear in gear and put my guy to work. JMHOLinda Baker Lottie in Wi On 4/26/06 3:57 PM, "Marsha Jo Hannah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Loved this discussion! I have 2-1/2 yr old Teddy-in-your-face! He helps the >> plumber unload his truck, the farrier as he trims the other horses, me as I >> feed, and Zack the Giant Scnhauzer catch his kong. He also tips the >> wheelbarrow full of rock and helps me fix the electric fence he tears down. > > Here's where I have an advantage. My first equine was my donkey, who > combines all of the above with the fun of playing "Keep Away" with any > tool or project parts that she can lay lips on. I learned early on > the value of gates, halters, and food. Changes to her or the Fjords' > environments happen while they are busy with their breakfasts, or put > out to pasture, or caught and tied up for some "patience training". > It really is quicker (and safer) to work on projects without "helpers"! > > Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! > 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Message for Linda Lottie about set up on Thursday for the Horse Expo
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tish..yea!! How about noonish-1pm??? Look forward to seeing you. LJBL On 4/25/06 10:18 AM, "Chris McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Chris McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I would be available to help on Thursday, can bring a batch of scones, > too (and lemon curd, mh!), please let me know what time you would > need me, and if I need to bring anything. > > This is my last week of freedom before I start my new job, so will end > on a high note with the MN Horse Expo! Have been taking riding lessons, > driving, a bit of travel, it's been nice. I think I could never work > again and very easily fill my days. > > On the baby training: Lori has a wonderful description on her website > of how she handles baby training, very detailed and sensible sounding, > made sense to me. > > Tish and Elph in Minneapolis > Spring, glorious spring!
HORSE EXPO - MINNESOTA & playful geldings
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My 4 year old fjord does some of this toosilly stuff. I have recently seperated him from his mother and uncle since they rarely dicipline him. He is actually better - listening better - trying harder to be a good boy - so, he will stay away from them from now on. He is off to training in June...another step on the maturation ladder. BTWThe MN HORSE EXPO fjord group will preform at noon for PARADE OF BREEDS (a one minute intro) and at 5pm for our longer demo where we introduce the horses and drivers/riders.so, again, join us. Sounds like the weather is going to be cooperative - no snow in the forcast:) I have my Pacific cart in my truck bed to be hauled to St. Paul tomorrow. Yesterday, I drew a lot of attention as I ran errands all over Grantsburg. Lots of questions...nice opportunity to talk fjords:) See you at the expo...Linda Baker Lottie in Grantsburg, WI On 4/21/06 7:03 AM, "Sue Clark-Sorger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Sue Clark-Sorger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I second or third or whatever this one. > I have a 5 year old orphan gelding that I raised, I have worked and worked > with him and he challenges me often. > He will work well for days at a time and then he will run out on the lunge > line and he will rear. I can't hold him when he runs out, > I have tried a knotted halter a chain over under around his nose, I put the > lunge line behind me and around under my butt and hold both ends in front > off me and brace > ready and once in a while I can hold him but mostly not. It is the rearing > that scares me, I don't move as fast as I once did. Until recently he would > bite me I > haltered him and any other chance he got, he found out I could be the bitchy > boss mare one day, and that stopped. Yes, I know I should part him but it is > not his fault he was a > orphan and why should I pass my problems on to someone else. His mom was the > most wonderful horse that I have ever had the joy of owning. > I had emailed Beth Beymer about him and have posted her response to me > below. > > > > I think that your Kez situation, unfortunately, really comes from him > having been raised an orphan and you being his surrogate mother. I think > that, no matter what you do, he will always try to display his playful > (and disrespectful) behavior towards you. You haven't done anything > wrong. It seems, to me, that some geldings never seem to mature in a way > that mares do (stallions go on to other jobs besides being playful) and > have to dispense that playful energy in some way. It seems that he tends > to direct that energy towards you. > > > Sue and Kez and Heather in very dry New Mexico > > > > > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:31:19 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Orphan Foals > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Beth said, " Just ask anyone who has raised an orphan how difficult it > can be to keep that foal from learning how to push its humans around." > And I say, as the owner of an 8 year old orphan foal, AMEN! > My poor mare misses her mother so much she nurses herself after > you give her a treat. She can't really reach her own teats, but she lifts > her hind leg, usually her left, reaches her head back there and sucks on > her tongue, for about 4-5 minutes. It is harmless enough as far as I > know, so I don't try to interrupt her. If she is tied to the trailer or > getting on the trailer, etc., she isn't allowed to, of course. > I was wondering if anyone has ever had a foal by such a mother? > Would her mental imbalance make her reject a foal? Would she become > obsessively attached to it forever? > Just wondering, > > Valerie
Re: brag alert/ MN HORSE EXPO
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good story/sharing Carol.I did same. Enjoyed days of driving Svengave an "intro to driving lesson" to a gal I met who wants a horse. She is a polio victim and while she wants to rideintroducing her to driving was eye opening. Sven was a sweetieshe loves him, of course:) Hope to see many of you at the MN HORSE EXPO this weekend. We can always use help at our information table.and, "heading" as we go in and out to present the fjords. Come hang out for awhile.it's fun!!! This year we have our traditional and wonderful "brown dun" fjords, Phil Odden's gray stallion and, Susan Cargill's white dun mare. Next year, all colors? Working on it:) SEE YOU AT THE EXPO..Linda Baker Lottie & Kristin Lee On 4/25/06 6:22 AM, "Carol Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > I hope all of you are getting out and about with your Fjords in our nice > weather in the midwest. I just have to tell of the wonderful weekend I > had driving my Heidi. First on Sat., I drove her about 5 or 6 miles to > our annual town meeting. Saving on gas you know. She had an hr. rest > there and then off we went to my friends place, which was about 10 > miles, I think. We did that in a little over an hr. Then on Sun. I > hauled her to my other friends weekend place with many acres and hilly > cross country ski trails for more driving. So our little group > consisted of me driving and two riders. We had so much fun and the > weather was perfect with few bugs, nice breezes and sunny. I am so > proud of Heidi and how well she did on all the up and down hills. I > love the thrill of her charging up a hill at a good canter or trot. > There were some short water places we could have crossed but I was leary > of the depth and other issues, so we went around them. After an hour or > so break and lunch we went back out. This time we headed for some state > land with many snow mobile trails. We could have gone on forever, but > some had trees down across and one had a steep grade sign or warning. > We decide to see just how steep this hill was and had a good laugh. It > was a lot less steeper than the ones on her property. So down we went > and traveled this trail until time to head back to pack up and call it a > day. I also had to go through a small rough area with only saplings in > the way to get around a gate onto the state land. Heidi does not bat an > eye or hesitate one bit when asked to go through. On our way back we > weren't quite sure where we cut through, but Heidi knew exactly where it > was. I held the lines up and very slack just to show the others that I > did not guide her. We call it a horses natural GPS. So in ending, I > hope everyone else is having as much fun as we did that day. Frankly I > had to almost pinch myself to know I was not dreaming of the great time > had last weekend. See you all at BE or Winona and that is coming up > sooner than we know.
Re: Lori's Update, and MN Expo
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, Trish.whoohooo. Will be so fun to see you and catch up. Remember when we took that nice drive with Sven and the SCONES??? Long time ago - and a life ago for me:) LJBL On 4/13/06 9:24 AM, "Chris McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Chris McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I really enjoy reading your posts, thanks for updating us. The trip to > Portugal sounded like a dream of a week. > > I am taking riding lessons from a really good instructor, and I watch > her give my barn owner dressage lessons (me: I get basic equitation; > that is my current speed . . .) and it amazes me to see the progression. > Such little changes result in huge differences in performance. She said > something yesterday that seemed to be in line with your comment about > teaching young horses one way, and then having to teach them another way > for dressage. It was about just lifting your body into the canter > position, and then having the young, fairly green horse just rise up > naturally to canter. No leg cue, no nothing. Very interesting, and it > worked beautifully on the horse that the barn owner was riding. > > We made some good progress in my lesson yesterday, I am becoming a more > confident rider, although I don't think I will ever feel as comfortable > as I do when I'm driving! > > Linda, sign me up for Expo, and I'm pretty sure I can help out on > Thursday. I'm "between jobs" right now, have three weeks off, happy > camper. > > Tish and Elph in Minneapolis
Re: height, age and Minnesota Horse Expo!!!!!
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My first fjord, Sven, is 13.3 and PERFECTwe use him primarily for driving but he is ridden. Lena is a little taller, rides and drives (14.hh) Sven is 18 yrs this year and Mr. Steady Eddy.Lena is 11 and truly in her prime. Both are so wonderful I can't stand it - :):):) Hasse...coming 4 is proving to be every bit as wonderful as him mom, Lena. Soon he will start under saddle. Driving...he is a doll and LOVES to go and see. Hasse's grandfather? Grabbson:) Sven is out of Anvil's Toby (Hotovy's in Michigan) sadly, deceased. LenaGrabbson. BTW..the Minnesota Horse Expo is the last weekend in April.we have a full row of fjords, including several brown dun, a new foal, a gray and a white dun mare. How fun is that Do stop by and see us. ATTENTION!! We will need HELP on Thursday for set-up. If you can spare a couple hours anytime after 10am.PLEASE, come help. It is a really fun day, laid back, exciting as all the horses arrive.and free:) We are located in the horse barn, same stalls...my cell is 612-716-5861 if you need to call/are lost/ Come join in the fun!! Linda Baker Lottie and Kristin Lee and all the gang!! On 4/11/06 8:58 AM, "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > As far as age of the Fjord horse and their product - ability. Hostar is 19 > TODAY! .. > > Everyone say Happy Birthday to Hostar!..and this horse is as > youth full and alive as they come. I have been riding him everyday and he is > sound and bright and happy and without a doubt one of the most pleasurable > horses to be around. > > DO NOT ever dismiss a Fjord due to age. They only get better with time. And > if anyone who owns a Fjord with experience by virtue of his/her age consider > it a blessing. > > As far as the mare that is for sale and only 13-3 > > Do not dismiss the smaller Fjord either - I love the 13-3 types. Of course > I am not tall myself, but there is allot of good things in those smaller > packages. > > Right now I have a little 13-3 mare in for training and she is a doll! I > started her last fall in driving and when she came back this spring was > exactly where I left off with her. She is by Rokida's Markus - ( I tell you > those Rokida's are great) - a full brother to the great (deceased Rokida's > Haakon) and out of a mare by "Thorvald I" (not to be confused with Thorvald, > the import from Green Valley Farm). > "Thorvald I "was a stallion bred by Harold Jacobsen - with Grabb and King > Haakon lines. I've come to really appreciate some of those old lines. > Brains, willingness to please, great work ethics.old or small no > matter ..it's what's between the ears that count. > > Happily training and have a good spring do so. > Pat Holland
Re: Sprenger bit
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen.too funny about the gal in the tack shop.uffda! Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 4/11/06 10:26 AM, "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I too am looking for bit advice.I am looking at buying a Herm Sprenger > bit.Right now,we ride her in your regular egg butt snaffle.I rarely ride,but > my god daughter rides and jumps her.I like driving her and use a Glory > butterfly.I am looking at the KK Conrad Ultra B Ring Snaffle,the KK Ultra > Eggbutt and the RS Dynamic.I have e-mailed the company three times since the > first of March and tried a couple more e-mails to other Herm Sprenger > connections.I have yet to get an answer to anyone.I finally went to a tack > shop that I thought was good.They told me that I couldn't need a 5 3/4 bit > because fjords are small.She also said that she didn't have a lot of > experience bitting gaited horses.When I tried to tell her that my horse's > nose is bigger than my waist and that they are not gaited,she said they are > because she read it in a magazine.So much for shopping there.I would > appreciate any thoughts on why I would want one of these over the other. > Thanks,Ellen
Re: New member and Boombah
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi..registration papers lost? Who cares? If the horse is good that is all that really matters (unless breeding, of course). Our 25+ year old app mare has no papers and I could care less. She is a 'fjord' in spots:) I will fill an ocean with tears the day she crosses the bridge! Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 4/4/06 9:46 AM, "Starfire Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List, > >> I see Linda has spread the word. Boombah is going to become a >> California girl! > > Congratulations Linda and Karen! > >> Instead, I've enjoyed her for what she is -- a kind, patient and >> gentle mare with a steady head on her shoulders. Her only foible is >> her dislike of adulation -- she just is not comfortable when an >> audience is clapping and cheering her. > > And the Darth Vader theme music booming from a loud speaker directly > over her head;-) > >> I don't know what the root of the problem is, but have thought >> perhaps it has to do with being run through an auction ring. Although >> the outcome was good (she came home with me), she looked quite >> miserable during the whole auction experience. (Remember, Beth?) > > OMG...what that mare suffered that day. Absolutely ROUGH rein handling > while she was being driven around the auction grounds. Tied to the side > of the barn for HOURS while harnessed and hitched. Tried to say > something to the sellers...but they were, well'nuff said. > Thank goodness Karen bought her. > >> I'm very pleased to have found such a loving new owner for Boombah and >> just hope I can find the right person for my gelding as well. The >> donkey is going to live with a friend of mine. > > She's a great mare, Linda. Another wonderful representative of the > breedeven if her registration papers were lost. Enjoy her. > > And Karen, we'll be looking forward to hearing of your exploits across > the pond! > > Beth
Re: gloves
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Solution...get a new pair of gloves.toss the ones with "stickers":) LJBL On 3/3/06 10:28 AM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey! (Hay?) I have hay in the fingertips, , stuck in the glove linings, > etc, etc. Also hay in coat pockets, in the car, everywhere! NEVER wear > sweat pants or polar fleece without a protective outer cover, Hay really > sticks to those. I have a pair of gloves I use to feed and they look > like furry things with all the hay stuck all over. Leather gloves just > get that hay in the lining. No solution I guess! > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, will be +20 today. Check out the ice carvings: > http://www.icealaska.com/ > > > > >> Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to get hay fragments out of the >> fingertips of your gloves? >> >> Very annoying.
Re: MWFHC Winter Meeting & Clinic
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fjord ownersI hope all of you who are "new" to fjords or "new" to showing will consider bringing your horse to the next "hands on" event or show. My daughter, Anne, is the "show" person in my familyI have been the go-fer and financier...but, with Miss Anne in vet school her days of showing are on hold. With a coming four year old fjord "HASSE" in the barn it is up to me to get him out and about. Scarrier for me than for him - haha!! Thanks to the club for hosting this eventthe facility is so wonderful, relaxing and it is just plain fun to hang out in the heated arena. Now, on to preparations for the Mn Horse Expo in late April. We will have a "row of fjords" for presentation. It is a highlight of my year and Miss Anne is going to sneak away to present Lena for the crowd. With Linda Syverson-Kerr and Heike Lewandowski leading the fjords (WITH AUTHORITY!!!) through the crowds we have the whole process down to a sciencewe look pretty darn col :) Hope to see many of you.as alwaysif you have a horse for sale or a stallion you want featuredsend hand out info my way. Linda Baker Lottie near Grantsburg, WI 22735 Hanson Point Road Grantsburg, WI 54840 On 2/27/06 5:30 PM, "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > MWFHC WINTER MEETING & CLINIC > > Neither rain, sleet or snow keep 90 members from attending the annual winter > clinic and meeting held February 18 & 19, 2006 at the Minnesota Equestrian > Center in Winona, MN. These Fjord members are as hardy and versatile as > their fjords. Karen Maas, our clinician, who is a carded judge of many > breeds and an NFHR Evaluator did an outstanding job of helping us understand > what a judge is looking for when placing horses in a show class. Karen, a > great teacher, is also a fountain of knowledge answering questions with > ease. > > A big thanks to the following who brought and performed with their horses: > Mike Jehlicka & Helen Schadler, Kristin Lee, Heike Lewandowski, Linda Baker > Lottie, Kathy Monroe & Nancy Barmore, Phillip Odden & Else Bigton, and > Debbie Ulrich. Classes included showmanship, english riding, western riding, > a jump course, ground driving, driving single horse, driving pairs and log > pull. The horses were first shown by their owners and then members had an > opportunity to try hands on in many of the events. There were individuals I > have never seen in the arena before trying showmanship, ground driving and > log pull. The fjords were all well behaved. Heike showed her stallion > performing a jump course and then several girls had an opportunity to try > their hand with Heike¹s stallion. Mentors such as Bob Gudknecht, Rich > Hotovy and Mike Sadlon helped in harnessing pairs and then later > demonstrated their skills in the log pull. Had it been timed, I think Bob G. > had the fastest log pull time as the audience urged and cheered him on. Phil > Odden and Mike Jehlicka did a great job showing their pairs driving. Debbie > Ulrich said, ³I was glad I brought my horses, and especially Raude..what a > wonderful horse. I tried to learn as much as I could and participated in so > many thingsand learning is exhausting! My friends, who helped, are so > wonderful and had a good time. I think they want fjords now! I think the > weekend turned out really well.² > > Linda Syverson-Kerr was the ring steward and helped to keep the program > moving along smoothly. Laurie With, a member from Little Falls, MN, took > photos of the many owners and participants. Thanks for volunteering! > > The dinner was held at Signatures, where the NFHR 25th dinner will be held, > and it was excellent. Dinner was followed by the MWFHC meeting. The > officers had spent the day at meetings so President Chuck Kelly could > quickly move us through important discussions. Thanks for your hard work. > The Blue Earth Show will be July 24-26, 2006 and the NFHR 25th celebration > will be October 12-15, 2006. Information about the Blue Earth Show will be > posted on www.mwfhc.org and the NFHR 25th on www.nfhr.com . > > The NFHR 25th Celebration will be held at the Minnesota Equestrian Center in > Winona, MN. It will include an NFHR Evaluation, Stallion Row, A Evening of > Dancing Fjord Horses, and a Horse Show. There are more details on the NFHR > website. Sign up early for a hotel room. Thanks to the members who have > already volunteered, but we can still use your help. It was stated there has > been a lot of confusion at trying to book a hotel at Riverport and Holiday > Inn. Hopefully they have their problems re
Fjord for sale???
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi - do you have a fjord for sale, older, experienced on trails and/or ring riding and live in the MN / WI area...mare or gelding.? If so, please contact me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been asked to help a woman find a fjord. Horse would have a wonderful home, be well cared for and gently ridden. Linda Baker Lottie in WI
Re: Fjord companion?
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fredwhen you say "male" lamado you mean intact? I raise dairy goats and have thought of getting a lama.a neighbor has onebeautiful black. He is stunning as he stands at the far end of the pasture watching over his flock. Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 2/15/06 5:59 PM, "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One of our pastures can not bee seen directly from the house. > > For that reason, we keep a male Llama with the Fjords as a guard. > Never had any problems. > > My son and daughter in law raise sheep and pigmy goats. They already had > two of our Llamas as guards, but began to lose stock in another field which > the Llamas could not get to. They "leased" another of our male Llamas for > that field. No loss of stock since. > > They are excellent companions to the animals that they watch over and best > of all.none of our Fjords will spook on a trail if they meet any Llamas. > > Fred > > All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. > Fred and Lois Pack > Pack's Peak Stables > Wilkeson, Washington 98396 > http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98
Re: 25th Anniversary Poster Design Submissions
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A postergreat. Will it be available for presentation by the end of April??? We attend and participate in the Minnesota Horse Expo and would LOVE to have something to feature..WI 's expo is the weekend before. Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 2/14/06 10:58 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:12 pm > Subject: 25th Anniversary Poster Design Submissions >> This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Poster contest >> What a wonderful idea. > I will go sharpen my pencils. There are a number people on the list > with artistic talents. Go to it.
Re: A "HELP!" appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly sniffers)
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did not get the attachment eitherLinda Baker Lottie in WI On 1/31/06 11:23 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:48 am > Subject: A "HELP!" appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly > sniffers) >> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Hi All! >>Even though it's only January, the advertising committee for >> the NFHR's >> 25th Anniversary Celebration/Show/Evaluation in October at Winona >> MN is already >> prepared to throw itself at your feet and beg for help. So here >> goes...We're planning a big, pretty, glossy event program for >> the celebration >> that will include the schedule of events, articles of current and >> historical >> interest, gorgeous photos and ads from individuals, farms and >> businesses who are >> courting our trade or who just wish us well. It will be a special >> program >> that will make a great and informative souvineer of the >> celebration! We hope >> that everybody can come to the party but, if you can or can't, we >> want this >> program to be a terrific keepsake from the event. >>Anyhow, as I'm sure you've already guessed, we really need >> advertisers...of all types and at all levels. We've got everything >> from full-page color >> spreads to 3 line spots on the "supporters' page." Before you >> delete this >> shameless appeal for funds from your screen, please see the >> attached file which will >> tell you all about our program and the ways you can be included. >> Please...please...please! >>Thanks in advance! >> >> Kay Van Natta >> and Braveheart, who is thinking of getting a paper route so he can >> be in the >> program. >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet- >> stream which had a name of ad costsheet.pub] >> > > My computer deleted your attachment - not sure if anyone else's did the > same thing. > I think we should challenge anyone interested to support this effort to > the max. Extra copies make exceptional promotional material when you go > to other events. I will put up the first challenge and commit to a full > page color spread. ( Double dose of Nyquil speaking or a leap of faith > since I have not seen the cost sheet yet) regardless- go for it. > > Kathy in Southern Idaho
Re: fjord smelling different
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kay.re fjords smelling different. Imagine the look on our faces when my daughter and I were cleaning our fjord mare's udder and discovered it smelled like "human B O "..we about died laughing. She is such a DIVA anywayjust figures:) Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 1/30/06 5:27 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Cheryl, Laurie and other secret Fjord-sniffers! > I thought maybe it was just my imagination but I know what you mean about > Fjords smelling different than other horses...at least different from quarter > horses, which is what I had before coming to my senses. Still, it's one of > those suspicions you hesitate to ask your friends to confirm - "Hey...could > you > come over here for a second and smell my horse?" > Thanks for the news that I'm not alone! > > Kay and > Braveheart and the Clementine, the furry and fragrant.
Re: Hostar & Anvil's Steinfinn & Ring
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My mare Lena is out of Grabbsonand her son, Hasse is out of Fair Acres Sven II.the Stienfinn son.geesh, no wonder his is such a doll!! I am really enjoying this discussion.and learning a lot. Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 1/29/06 3:53 PM, "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks Marcy & Mike. > Sorry,... Hostar is the ONLY STALLION left in North America by > Brusvein. > > And Marcy I whole heartedly agree about "Ring", Kimpton Brook's Eiken Var - > the "Solar" son I had last year and standing for Susan Crawford this year, > was out of Fjordelv Farm's Katina by "Ring" - several people said his quiet > nature and willingness to work was majorly due to "Ring" - as well as > "Solar". > > Carol, The reason "Anvil's Steinfinn" was gelded was that when Roger and > Diane Whitney - fantastic, knowledable people in their own right as breeders > and supporters of the Fjords here in the Midwest, wanted to downsize, > offered him for sale and when no takers came -Which to this day I do not > understand why - (only that Roger and Diane are humble people and might not > have advertised him, like I would have.) They gelded him for ease of care on > their part. Not in anyway, whatsoever - that he was "less than" - or that > they didn't like what he was producing, he had excellent reproductive > soundness - and his offspring, from a trainers point of view were/are > absolutely the BEST students, a trainers dream. > > "Anvil's Steinfinn" was offered for sale before I truly understood what he > produced. A major fault on my part. He should not have been gelded and if I > had been in a different position and know what I know now, when he was for > sale I guarantee I would have bought him in a heartbeat. > > Fortunately he has "Fair Acre's Ole" - Patti Jo's good boy - still intact to > carry on for him. Also recently Tyler and Dawn Schlickman bought "Fair > Acre's Sven II" another "Steinfinn" son, that will be making his debut this > year, so yes Carol, you are right there are offspring of some of these great > foundation horses out there, and we have to keep them out and about in the > public eye - for some of these fellows are truly, truly what the Fjord breed > is all about. > > Good conversation, > Pat Holland
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #15
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rhonda.cute:) Thanks for sharingLJBL On 1/21/06 6:06 PM, "Rhonda Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Rhonda Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Shampoo Alert! -R.Taylor > Straw Hat Stables > Cut out a coupon for a "new" shampoo - Suave Green Apple. Sounded > refreshing, and "Spring-like". Tried it, dried my hair, went to groom the > Fjordies. All 3 of them sniffed my head as I did mane trims - 2 of them > decided I smelled good enough to eat. The SLURP would do a cartoon character > proud - started at my shoulder - ended at the top of my head. Finished horse > grooming, went inside and repeated human grooming - gave the shampoo to my > sister.
Re: ...a pasture mystery.
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kay - cute story. I have a 23 year old QH who won the "Mudball" blue ribbon award at one of my baording barns years ago. He, to this day, finds the sloppiest, muddiest spot and rolls several times, all sides, and then as you saidhas this 'armor" of thick mud and gets highly annoyed as I work to get it off his body. I usually have to rinse him in warm water first to soften up the mud, then scrape it off. It happens over and over - hence, he is often turned out in my sand arena or not at all - haha!! As for Bravehearthe knows he is simply too handsome to stoop to the level of wandering around with, ooee, "mud" on his delightful self:) Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 1/6/06 9:24 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All! > Michigan seems to be passing through a very weird weather pattern here > lately...rain and temps in the 40s. Instead of freezing my fingers off while > hammering ice out of water buckets (let's hear it for black rubber water > buckets), I'm schlepping through mud and trying to remember what I did with my > raincoat. > Anyhow, my pony pasture is a lot messier than it would normally be in > January but "outside" is very important to Braveheart and Clementine so > "outside" > it is. When I return in the PM to put them in their stalls for dinner and > bedtime I yell for them out the back door (or snap a carrot in half - either > way > works) and they run like crazy ponies to present themselves as food > candidates. > Braveheart enters the barn clean and pristine in every way...immaculate > from the creamy tips of his ears to the feathers around his feet. I could > walk > into a show ring anywhere and get away with it unless the judge gave him a > friendly pat on the fanny and raised a big cloud of blond dust (his shavings > are > the same color he is). > Clementine is a mudball. I swear she crunches as she walks into the > barn. There is no way to determine her actual color from simple observation. > She > sounds as if she's wearing a suit made of shells. I'm pretty sure she's > bullet-proof. It's worth 10 minutes of your life just knocking the dried mud > out > of her halter buckles. > OK. Same field. Same time in said field. They seem to be together all > the time. How come all the mud comes in on Clementine and Braveheart always > seems to be dressed for a night on the town? > It's a mystery. > > Kay @ Yellow (most of the time) Pony Farm, > Braveheart, who believes that cleanliness is next to Godliness, > and Clementine, who believes that cleanliness is next to impossible.
Re: Looking for donations for silent auction/Raffle
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniellethere are two fjord horse shows in 2006 - which date are you talking aboutthanks.Linda in Wi On 1/1/06 11:40 AM, "Danielle Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Danielle Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello, My name is Danielle Campbell and I was recently placed as Chair of > the silent auction/raffle committee at the 2006 NFHA Fjord show. I have > just started looking for donations for both the auction and the raffle and > someone suggested that I started here. If anyone has any new items ( > fjord, horsey or anything nice :) that they would like to donate please > email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its a great tax write off! > > thanks a bunch and have a Happy New Year > > Danielle and Gwen :)
Re: driving harness
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For newSmuckers On 12/28/05 9:06 AM, "Larry Goss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Larry Goss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I need either a used single driving harness or a new beta-thane driving > harness. Does anyone have an opinion (that is a funny statement on this > chat site) on where to get it? for a 14 hand, 1150 lb fjord. > Larry Goss
Re: Question on clippers
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yathose really big ones. I have a friend who body clips her fjord and she uses that one..my "regular" sized clippers would not work. The big clipper is spendy..Linda in WI On 11/28/05 8:23 PM, "Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Eileen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone on the list give their Fjords a trace or full body clip? My > clippers, which have always worked fine on my Appys, just roll over and > play dead with the thick Fjord pelt. Anyone have a recommendation for > clippers that are built Fjord tough? > > Eileen in eastern WA, where we might get our first snow of the season.
Re: Leidjo returns to Anvil's Acres
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anitawhat an interesting story. Glad to know the horses are back home and being cared for with love. Linda Baker Lottie in WI On 11/26/05 11:16 AM, "Anita Unrau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Leidjo is back at Anvil's Acres thanks to all the in depth > investigating that Laura Kranzusch and Lisa Pederson did on behalf of > Leidjo and Anvil's Stina, Anvil's Lyna and Triangle E's Elskling. > After I posted on the list that Leidjo's where abouts where unknown > Lisa and Laura started doing some digging around. After months of > research, questions, many, many phone calls back and forth between us > and with the help of Nyla Nanoit's son, Dan, we finally narrowed down > the area where Nyla's "Charitable Organization" (ask Lisa for that > story) sold Leidjo and the three mares. When the "lady" representing > this Organization, who had phoned numerous times, phoned once more to > "discuss" the situation > she let slip the first name of the women who had in all innocence > bought Leidjo and the three mares off Nyla. > Again Lisa and Laura (who Orville dubbed Thelma and Louise) > dug even deeper and found me a name, an address and more importantly a > phone number. I phoned and she confirmed she had bought Leidjo and > the three mares off Nyla. > Through various, nefarious, negotiations we finally worked out a deal > between Nyla, the lady who now had Leidjo and ourselves. > End of July I meet Orville in Pinedale, Wyoming with my truck when he > was ready for days off and with the new aluminum stock trailer he had > bought from a dealer in Pinedale, we set off for Wisconsin. With only > two weeks off it was a mad trip to Green Bay to sort things out with > Nyla and to go pick up Leidjo, Stina, Lyna and Elie. > It was a shock to see the three mares where heavy in foal and looked > ready to drop any time soon. > Leidjo had had an accident last fall with a mower, that was left in the > pasture and had badly scarred hind hooves. Other than the scars on > Leidjo all four Fjords looked well cared for. > We loaded up Leidjo, the three mares and a grey son of Leidjo's that we > bought and headed home. It worked out that both Lisa and Laura could be > nearby and helped us celebrate the return of Leidjo and the mares. > Our first good stop was at Roger and Diane Whitney's where we unloaded > and cleaned out the trailer. The mares and gelding where doing well > but Leidjo was having a hard time with a stifle injury that we did not > notice when we picked them up. > Heading home once again we had no problems until we got to the Canadian > Border at Osoyoos when two ladies without much to do decided I was > misrepresenting the gelding and proceeded to search my truck, all my > paperwork, my purse, interrogations in the back room and three hours > later finally let us leave to drive the one hour home and unload the > horses. > > Both mares had the opportunity to foal in the pasture below the house > where most of their past foals had been born. > Stina had a beautiful white dun filly August 25th and Elie had her > brown dun filly on Sept. 26th. > Lyna is due sometime in early 2006. They are now moved into their > new paddocks and have settled in nicely. > Leidjo will be available for breeding in the 2006 season and possibly > it will be at Pederson's. > Again many thanks to Thelma and Louise as it couldn't have been > possible with out you. > Love you both. > Hugs > Anita Unrau > > > > Anvil's Acres > Norwegian Fjord Horses > PO Box 39 > Rock Creek, BC > Canada > V0H 1Y0 > 250-446-2502 > > "Disposition, Conformation, Versatility Since 1973" > > http://mypage.direct.ca/a/aunrau/
