Hansje goes Western
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everybody I have something nice to tell about my Hansje, almost 14 years old mare. She had some trouble with her left behind leg, but is doing very well again. I always rode English dressage (I live in The Netherlands), but where she is stabled there are some folks who ride on quarter horses and do Western riding competition. They organised it here at our stables for people who wanted to join and gave instruction about it on one saturday afternoon. Well, this past weekend were the competitions. There was a Trail and Pleasure and Western Horsemanship and a overall championship for the best horse and rider, who had won the most prizes. Of course everybody thought that the lady with the very expensive quarter stallion who goes to all the competitions here would win the championship and nobody thought seriously about this old lady with her fjord. I don't have a western saddle, nor westernclothes, but did my best and borrowd a childrens hat from a little girl and - of course you guessed already - we won the overall western championship ! With the Trail we were first ! I did it very slowly, as they had explained , there was no rush, but Hansje did not bother about going over something, or going backwards or picking up a net filled with empty beercans over her head, that is a fjord ! And she has a thorough dressage background With the pleasure she did very well, I can ride her with one hand and loose reins, she listens to my legs, only that she cannot slowly jog, but trots very active, too active for western. So we were 5th (there were 12 contestants) and with the Horsemanship we were second. So that score made us the overall winners of the day ! I had so much fun and was so proud of my little Hansje She is not spectacular, rather small, but we are such a great team together And I liked it very much that nobody (not even me) had expected us to win anything at all. And some of the westernfolks were not so happy about it, gnagnagna greetings, Marion
take a look
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, take a look at this site it's not about Fjords, but miniature Shetland ponies who are a guide horse for the blind ! www.guidehorse.com greetings, Marion
nice
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this I found on the site: site: http://www.slidinghorse.nl if If you can start the day without caffeine, If you can get going without pep pills, If you can always be cheerful, ignoring aches and pains, If you can resist complaining and boring people with your troubles, If you can eat the same food everyday and be grateful for it, If you can understand when your loved ones are too busy to give you any time, If you can overlook it when those you love take it out on you when, through no fault of yours, something goes wrong, If you can take criticism and blame without resentment, If you can ignore a friend's limited education and never correct him, If you can resist treating a rich friend better than a poor friend, If you can face the world without lies and deceit, If you can conquer tension without medical help, If you can relax without liquor, If you can sleep without the aid of drugs, If you can say honestly that deep in your heart you have no prejudice against breed, color, religion or politics, Then, my friend, you are *almost* as good as your horse! Author Unknown greetings Marion
re hoof problems
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mary wrote: . Lack of exercise on good ol' natural ground can lead to a myriad of hoof problems, not the least of which are slow hoof growth and decreased wall thickness. "If you don't use it, you lose it" maybe? That is very well said, Mary Because Fjords are so easy to keep, many are not well looked after and get too little exercise and develop therefore hoof problems My farrier told me that only now Hansje had grown good strong hoofs, after a year. It takes a hoof a year to renew completely She had indeed decreased wall thickness, a bit loose even due to bad maintenance and no exercise People forget easily that they require good care, just as other horses do. By the way, the hoof and mouth disease is a real disaster here in Holland. 5 Farms are infected now and because the country is so crowded and the animals have been transported throughout the whole country (and Europe) there is much fear that it will spread. In England more than 600 farms are infected now The didease has reached Ireland and France as well. We are not allowed to go trailraiding, nor to transport our horses We may visit the barn and ride in the arena Some friends of me have their horses stabled at a farm with cows or sheep and they are not allowed to enter the farm. So the farmer looks after the horses and they have to wait untill the danger is over. greetings, Marion
re breeding
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What do they do to control the quality of the breeding mares? It seems to me that at least 50%, (or more), of the genetics that make up a foal come from the mare. Yet I never hear anything about quality control of mares from any of the countries. Only the stallions. (Yes, I realize the stallion can be responsible for many foals in one season, whereas the mare only one in a season. But that one should be the very best it can be.) Judy About the mares here in Holland: you can breed with any registered fjord mare and let the foal than registrate But with the mare you can go to a "keuring" and there are several grades she can achieve she can be model mare, a star mare, excellent and I believe still something else You can do these "keurings" with the geldings also, but when yuo breed with a mare that has passed the highest "keurings", the price of the filly is more expensive. I love the discussion about the fjord character in training. My trainer already noticed that Hansje is more difficult and smarter than most "normal" horses That trics that work for other horses, don't work for her I have to be quite firm with her, in an honest way, because when I become to friendly she immediately takes advantage. On the other hand, I praise her loudly when she workes well and she does work good for me. I have her now a year and she had not been in hands very much before and it is touching to notice how attached she has become to me, even though she is already 14, She neighs loudly when I enter the stables and always comes towards me when walking or when sometimes I let a child sit on her. greetings, Marion
re question
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In Norway or Holland are all colts gelded that do not get a certain rating? in Holland, yes don't know about Norway greetings, Marion
re Iberian riding
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean asked me about Iberian riding and I will try to explain as far as I can It is a kind of Western riding (Old Californian style, so I was told) Not cutting or Pleasure, but more a kind of show style that the old Spanish landowners did with their Spanish horses It was not meant for working, but for showing off (and the pleasure of riding I presume) It looks a lot like well performed classical dressage Here in Europe (especially in Germany) you see it with baroque horses, the Lusitano horses for example, or the Spanish horse It contains a high level of . . . .(I don't know the English word for it) in Dutch Verzameling. in German Versammlung Putting the horse together, a round neck, loose at the reins, the power coming from behind, very vesatile, going sidewards etc I hope I made myself a little understandable greetings, Marion
trainingweekend
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list I want to share with you an experience I had last weekend with my 13 year old Fjord mare Hansje I went on a 3 day trip with about 25 riders in a beautiful place in the woods. We are all members of an association of freetime riders That means, that all kind of horses are gathered and most of the people abhorr classical English dressage I don't, love it, but kept my mouth shut during the discussions All kinds of horses were there, many quarters, Arabs, KWPN, Haflinger and my Fjord Very nice people, most of them riding Western style I joined the club because I love to ride outside and make long rides and they organise daytrips and more days events where you can go trailriding Beside that, I ride in the arena with Hansje and she is pretty well trained in classical dressage. I get half an hours lesson each week and we are rapidly progressing This weekend was also for training; there was a lady, well trained in Western riding and some people only rode the training. They really needed it as I saw when I looked sometimes, the horses not being well-mannered and ill-ridden. You can here in The Netherlands almost everywhere get good basic lessons, yes, but its is classical and they want it all different The third day I joined the lessons, because she would also teach Iberian riding and guess who did it outstanding. . . .my Fjord At last a well trained horse came in the arena and I could not only join in immediately, Hansje and I were doing so well she said that she took me apart after the others were ready to train me privately. Iberian riding is a lot like good performed classical riding so she continued almost where my last week lesson ended. It was fun to experience it and I was of couse very content ! I was so proud of my Hansje Greetings, Marion
re site
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After much fun and frustration I have finally redone our web site. Please check it out and let us know how the download goes in other parts of the world. www.fjordhorse.net Beautiful pictures, Lauren what a world of difference with the surroundings here ! It took some time to download it, but it was received very well here in The Netherlands ! "How many of you own just ONE Fjord with no other horses? Do they seem to be happy, or do you think they are lonely. Do you keep them stalled or in a field where they can see other horses? Lou" I own one Fjord mare and she is not lonely, as she is lives in a stable with about 30 horses, all private horses owned by people who don't have the room to have the horse at their homes . She can look out of her stable door and see many other horses. Greetz, Marion
ages
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise, you forgot to mention me I alraide mailed that I am 54 Marion Bijster, The Netherlands I saw the name Betsy Bister on the list I wonder whether you last name might originally have been Bijster ??? Do you know of that ?
re ages
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betsy wrote: "Glad to know so many Fjord owners on this list are Mature Members, too." Hi Betsy, I'm 54 and still fjording ! Hope to do so many more years greeting from The Netherlands, Marion and her Hansje
trailriding
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everybody, Just wanted to share my happiness I had this weekend two wonderful rides, on saturday and today on sunday yesterday I went out riding with a girl on her big horse and, guess what, Hansje could trot faster than he could. . Today I went alone and rode out for 2 hours It is such a wonderful feeling to ride out in the open instead of the riding arena with bad wheather What a sweet fjord mare do I have, I love her so much ! We become a team more and more, it is still groing Hope to continue doing so for many years Greetings from Marion and her Hansje, The Netherlands
long distance
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hello Tamara in the UK Here in the Netherlands Fjords do compete in longdistance they are of course not as fast as the Arabians, but they go on and on and on This summer at the Festival of the Dutch Studbook there was a 27 years old Fjord who rode the 27 kilometers ride and the riders said she did ride her Fjord about 3 times a week for about 4 hours rides greetings, Marion
message
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hi, sorry to use the list for this, but I cannot reach them otherwise: Nancy and Ernie Botte, we met on the Fjord show in Holland this summer. You mailed me afterwards, but I cannot answer your mail. Maybe you changed you emailaddress? Please contact me. Marion. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
language
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Read aloud for best results (and some semblance of comprehension). Be >>warned, you're going to find yourself talking "funny" for a while after >>reading this. It was nominated "best email of 1997". The following is a >>telephone exchange between a hotel guest and room-service, at a hotel in >>Asia which was recorded and published in the Far East Economic >>Review. >>Room Service (RS): "Morny. Ruin sorbees" Guest (G): "Sorry, I thought I >>dialed room-service" RS: "Rye..Ruin sorbees..morny! Djewish to odor >>sunteen??" >>G: "Uh..yes..I'd like some bacon and eggs" >>RS: "Ow July den?" >>G: "What??" >>RS: "Ow July den?...pry, boy, pooch?" >>G: "Oh, the eggs! How do I like them? Sorry, scrambled please." >>RS: "Ow July dee bayhcem...crease?" >>G: "Crisp will be fine." >>RS : "Hokay. An San tos?" >>G: "What?" >>RS:"San tos. July San tos?" >>G: "I don't think so" >>RS: "No? Judo one toes??" >>G: "I feel really bad about this, but I don't know what 'judo one toes >>'means." >>RS: "Toes! toes!...why djew Don Juan toes? Ow bow singlish mopping we >>bother?" >>G: "English muffin!! I've got it! You were saying 'Toast.' Fine. Yes, an >>English muffin will be fine." >>RS: "We bother?" >>G: "No..just put the bother on the side." >>RS: "Wad?" >>G: "I mean butter...just put it on the side." >>RS: "Copy?" >>G: "Sorry?" >>RS: "Copy...tea...mill?" >>G: "Yes. Coffee please, and that's all." >>RS: "One Minnie. Ass ruin torino fee, strangle ache, crease >>baychem,tossy singlish mopping we bother honey sigh, and copyrye??" >>G: "Whatever you say" >>RS: "Tendjewberrymud" >>G: "You're welcome" >> >
Re: fjords and dressage...
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Marion, we have a leather fly bonnet with strips of leather but it hangs >completely around the face. The one on yours there appears to be only on >the front away from the eyes. Yes we have all kinds of fly halters, net, >leather, plastic including ear protectors also. Jean > > > > >Jean Gayle > I thought you had once in a while I buy the Western Horseman and see advertisements for protection against flies why the thing that are sold here hang only in the front, I really don't know It seems so more logical when the strips hang all around the head greetings, Marion, Holland
Re: fjords and dressage...
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -, >I too, wondered what that was. Hope you can satisfy our curiosity. Carol M. > >Jean Gayle wrote: > >> This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>. What is that face piece of harness? Jean >> >> it is against flies around the eyes you can hang it on the front it are long pieces of leather or fabric don't you have that in America ??? I ride Hansje every summerday with it Marion, Holland
what is this ?
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sorry, have I missed something ? what is this about ? In a message dated 5/31/00 10:32:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Make sure you reserve your copy. For those that have not turned in your photos, please don't delay Honestly, I don't read all the messages completely as I am not a breeder, just an owner of one sweet Fjord lady Hansje is doing fine, by the way she is madly in love with a Freesian stallion who has joined our stables here and it is mutual But I don't want a foal Freesian-Fjord, how cute that may be I don't want a foal at all, as I don't have the place nor the money to keep it I raised once a foal, with my previous mare, half Arabian and half English cob and I could not sell him, I loved him too much and so did Katrien, my daughter. Which was a lucky thing, because he turned out to a wonderful dressage horse, His father is an English thoroughbred, so he really is what you call an Anglo-Arabian, with all the characteristics that go with that: very shy, capable of completely going over the edge from nothing, panicking from everything On the other hand, she can take him outside the riding school for a little ride in the park (in half an hour you have surrounded it all) and he is very relaxed and not afraid at all of all kinds of traffic You would not believe it is the same horse But he finds it a bit boring outside. Fortunately my daughter has a very gentle and patient character so they go along just perfectly He really enjoys doing the difficult dressage things and can dance around the arena She has already wone many prices and wants really to go into the high levels of dressage His mother could jump very well and enjoyed that and they have become twice champions of the region, But this son did not inherit the jumping talent at all So I was very lucky with this foal but , how much I would love it, I resist the temptations, and sorry for Hansje, she will have to resist the temptations also. About the terre a terre, there was a while a discussion about it on the list what it was. I read an article about this Danish master, Bent Branderup and he explained it: It is a fighting technique from the wars on horseback: when the rider leans in a certain direction forward with his sword or whatever - stretched out to the enemy, the horse follows his movement in that direction So the horse and rider both jump as it were forward towards the enemy to stab him I hope it is understandable in this way greetings, from Marion - Holland
gypsy horses
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiona, I agree with you completely !Marion "But you dont have to be a gypsy to neglect your horse"
Re: Gypsy horse
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Dave I am not sure whether you ralise that the camargue is in France, not in England (If you do, please excuse me) every year the French gypsies gather in the south of France, the Camargue and have a couple of days celebrating - I don't know what In the camargue live the camargue horses, wich are white and a special breed and used for cow driving and so the fjord on the picture pulling a wagon (or how do you call this in English) is I believe some Dutchman who travels around, some old hippy or something like that. These wagons are actually not as heavy as they look, they move quite easily only when there is a slope it is heavy on the horse. The gypsy horse in England comes from the Irish gypsies and is called an Irish tinker It is actually some kind of cob, but in colors: black and white and brown and white they have heavy socks on the legs Something like a clydesdale, but a lot smaller, probably due to many generations of malnourishment The Irish people do not care very well for their horses so be prepared for some shock Anyway, horse fairs are never the places where people are nice to horses (or whatever animal by the way) The Irish tinker is becoming very popular in Holland and Germany, a fashion horse They are sold as very calm and reliable, but in effect they have a lot of energy The merchants here often say that you can keep an Irish Toinker stabled for some days and then ride on him and he will not buckle or be wild This is not true at all probably in Ireland, where the horses stray on the street and are not properly fed as any healthy horse has the Tinker lots of enrgy but I do not believe that they are very strong or have a lot of stamina. People like them because they look like cows with their colors and are fashion greetings, Marion from Holland -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dave McWethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: FjordList Datum: zaterdag-april-2000 5:01 Onderwerp: Gypsy horse >This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I don't know if I have mentioned here that I am going to the Appleby New >Fair in England in June. This is an annual gathering of the Gypsies in >England, and a big horse fair which has happened since 1750. Prior to >going, I have been doing a lot of reading, and some surfing to see what is >on the Web. > >Check outhttp://www.saintes-maries-camargue.enprovence.com/gitan.htm > >It sure looks like that poor horse is pulling an awful lot of weight. >
moody?
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is that statement again "wants a gelding only" It has been my impression that Fjord mares are not as sensitive and moody during their cycles as say the thoroughbred, warm bloods, Arabs etc. wrote Jean, sorry Jean, but Hansje is very, very moody during her cycle she is a completely different horse during about 4 or 5 days unfortunately there is a stallion in our stables since a couple of weeks, a big Friesian and she is completely in love as all the mares here are . . . greetings, Marion
RBent Branderup
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anneli, how lucky you are to be able to take lessons from Bent Branderup I read he was to be the royal Danish riding-teacher ? I send a picture of his book to Lori, so she can put it on the list It is wonderful and all about classical dressage And indeed he does not write negative about fjords, but rather says everybody can enjoy his or her own horsey and they can learn many more things than most peaple believe. Especially with Fjords, who canbe so stubborn and strong in their forehand, it is so important to ride them from behind, instead of holding them before. In that case you encounter a massive wall But when you ride your horse from behind, the mouth can stay supple My Hansje is going sideways now, yielding to the leg to left and right, but some days in trot she makes herself still very strong, because she is not so eager on yielding. It is hard work for her, which she never did before. But most of her blubber is gone now ! When I put my finger on her behind, it no longer wobbles from behind to her forehand, as it did. My saddle also fits better. She can even jump, as we learned last week. Greetings, from Marion, Holland
fast noving fjords
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "And the other thing I noticed. I've never seen Fjords MOVE SO FAST. I > think I need to see a few more in motion,..." When I ride my Hansje in the indoor riding school and it is feeding time, and she hears that the other horses get their food, she walks so fast, it is just like a sewing machine : tsjak, tsjak, tsjak, on and on and on. as if she hopes that the hour will go faster when she trots harder. . . Today, by the way, she had finally discovered that she can canter in a slow speed. Really like a dressage horse, in stead of throwing herself into in and going as fast as she could. I was really surprised what was happening and it was no accident, because I let her canter several times on both hands and she had really understood what was meant ! greetings, Marion, Holland
picture
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sini, what a lovely picture of the filly above the mothers neck ! Marion , Holland
chiropractor
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hello a horse that feels stiff, that can have many different causes 1. food : too rich may cause the muscsles to get sour. tho horse needs some time to become loose, even half an hour work 2. back problems a saddle that does not fit, a too heavy or unexperiences rider 3. leg problems:(tendons) because his leg hurts, he will his whole body rigid to avoid pain 4, how the horse is ridden: I see many stiff horses because the riders pull too much in the horses mouths without using their legs first. They are being ridden "backwards" instead of "forwards" and there will probably be still some other causes, like a horse that has hurt himself, had a fall or whatever. Good luck I had good experiences with a horse chiropractor by the way Marion, The Netherlands,
Re: Looking for contact information for Remmy Bron.
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Michele Bigelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Datum: woensdag-maart-2000 1:29 Onderwerp: Looking for contact information for Remmy Bron. >This message is from: "Michele Bigelow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Hi Folks! > >I know someone out there must know how to contact Remmy Bron in Holland. I >would really appreciate this information. I used to have her address, but >alas, I can not find it. Thank you. > >Michele >Do you knoiw in what city this Ronnie Bron lives ? Marion
Re: V names
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Brian Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Datum: maandag-februari-2000 23:16 Onderwerp: Re: V names >This message is from: "Brian Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Norwegian names that begin with V are not plentiful in my family tree book, >but I did come up with Valborg (fem) and Vigleik (male). >Brian Thompson > >I once had a Fjord mare named Vroja ( I found that name in a book on Norwegians myths and gods) Marion
dutch judges
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karen McCarthy asked if Fjord judges in Holland are carded in other breeds As far as I know the judges here are specialised in their own breed Maybe some of them know about other breeds, but mr Van Bon here is the specialist on Fjords in our country greetings, Marion - The Netherlands
pictures
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Loves the pictures of Stella and Bjorken Stella has a sweet look They look somewhat more elegant, not the draft type to me Bjoken has on the picture a long neck for a Fjord I love all the pictures people send in to show their Fjords ! Can't get enough of them ! If you like, I can scan some old photo's of my former Fjords and send them to Lori to put on the net. . . Greetings, Marion - Holland
Re: List Pictures
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hey, I really likedthe other pictures of the Fjords, the ones in the snow but also the portrait of Gunnar. It must be a hell of a job to cut his hair I have already trouble to keep Hansje's hair neat, Have to trim it at least every fortnight You asked for her parents, Lori they are: Father Bjorgard MotherChristien She never passed a keuring But I don't mind Today, after I rode in a lesson for kids in the riding school, I went outside to walk her out in the park that surrounds the riding school. I went with a 11 year old girl who comes every wednesday after school to brush Hansje and is very fond of her (as many girls are of horses) and I walked beside Hansje and she sat on her and I held the reins. And then on a path, I said, step of her, I want to go in the saddle and I did that and did a little galopping. I was so excited ! She is so sweet, does not get excited or afraid, just as a Fjord should be. Then I let the girl do some trotting and her day was as fine as mine is ! I used to do trailriding from when I was 17 until 35. In the meantime I moved to another part of Holland (got married, got a child) . This is "polder" (Don't know where the English dictionary is) : that is land that is acquired by pumping out all the water. So all the land is divided to farmers and there is litterally no square meter of free land. So we are really happy to have this sort of park (when I walk fast I can round it within 1 hour), because many riding schools or stables where people put their horses have nothing of the sort. Anyway, I really lovedto be outside with a horse and then I had moved and learned about dressage. And I loved (and still do) that. The challenge, everyday you can work on something. I had then a pony who was so hot, that my daughter warned me not to take her outside (yes, in the outside riding arena) but not in the forest. Because I would not be able to hold her or to stay on top of her. I had that pony for 10 years and then had Kimble, the beatiful one. I once tried to ride him outside, in the grass at the side of the road, but within 5 minutes he was galopping in the middle of the road and I could not control him and that with the sometimes fast traffic here ! So I never tried that again. That is why I was so happy today that I dares to ride outside There will come many more days and rides. . . . Greetings, Marion
Re: Pictures of Hansje
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>What a cutie! But it's the first time I've seen a fjord in a blanket! Love >the picture though, the scenery, and the happy human, horse and dog. > >Pamela hello Pamela, I use a blanket on my Fjord because she loses her many hairs faster that way. She will not be so wet wet when ridden without all that hair. She does not need it, because she is stabled inside. Unfortunetaly I do not have land to let her outside, but she lives on a ridingschool where I rent a box. In summer she gets out in the meadow for about one hour a day. Ground is very expensive here, as we live with so many people in this country. Anyway, it rains a lot and the ground is very slippery so it is not fun for the horses to be outside. My xperience is that the horses love to be outside for a while, but than again love to go back to their stable. Of course we take care that they are moving enough everyday and do not get bored. Anyway, I will do the pictures again to make them sharper and send them again. greetings, Marion
Re: Dutch Kuering/ American Fjord?
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---hallo people all over the world who love Fjords I have followed some of the discussions about the "Dutch Keuring" (first e than u) and about setting standards for Fjords in Europe and in America. I live in Holland and had Fjords ten years ago and have one now (one at a time) I have had the draft type and the "old fashioned Norwegian type". Of course horses change when they are bred on different grounds from where they originate: different food, air and ground to walk on. The mustangs did not originate in Amrica but got better feet from walking on stone hills. The \fjords originated in Scandinavia on stony hills and where light. When they were introduced in Holland, in the 50 ies, they becane heavier because of the claygrounds that prevail here And they where then mostly used to carry vehicles, as a replacement of the eastern european ponies that where used before to pull. So they breeded then here very much on stenght and not on elegance Also the Fjhordhorses were used to pull trees ous of the forests where machines could not come, so strenght was very useful. I (am not a judge) strongly believe that that purpose affected the breeding of Fjords very much. Then I had nothing to do with Fjords for at least 10 years and now I find many more riding-Fjords here in the Netherlands And the breeedingstandards are much more back to the type that is not only strong, but also good to ride. By bad luck I had in a short time different Fjords back then, but had the opportunity to get acquainted to the different Fjordtypes: I had a very light Fjord, very sweet and tame, but who had epileptics. I had thereafter a very heavy draft type who got sore feet (I don't know the English name) and I had then a very old fashioned type of Fjord who would easily jump 1 meter high, but also buckle the same, who teached me not to move my legs one centimeter or else she would jump into a canter. Many years later my daughter who rode her also had to have physiotherapy because she had terrible backpains because she had fallen of her at an age of 10 years in a terribile way and her spine was twisted. (She cured competely). And than I had a mediumweight Fjord who was extremely lazy ( never heard of that before) who got ataxia (twisted her spine, probably while turning on her back in her box) and got lame forever on all four her legs. Then , although I loved Fjords, I had lost my trust in the race and got a pony, it didn't matter what race or gender if only she was sound. That pony I had for ten years and now I turned again to Fjords. I purchased one who was (is) extremely elegant and beautiful; more a dressagehorse than a real Fjord, but he and I did not get along and I sold him again. And now I have a little mare, who I believe is a real "original" Fjordhorse: not very beautiful or impressive, but very sweet and intelligent and sensitive and wonderful to ride. I have regaines my fun in riding ( I almost lost it and wanted to stop while riding is mu greatest passion, but had become afraid) and I can imagine that I continue to ride for at least 10 years (I am 53) with this lovely little mare. (I am not so big myself, im55). And that is why I love Fjords But my point, what I wanted to make when I started this mail is, why should we not set for global standards instead of Dutch, European or American standards. Why not a global standard, maybe a riding type and a draft type ? I can understand very well the opposition against someone coming from a very small country as ours who will judge abaout your horses, as also I appreciate the idea of someone (not just someone but the godfather) of the greatest studbook on Fjords come and share his expertise wth you. But lets not forget that the world is becoming smaller. In Europe we have many good quarter horses and judges coming from America , for example. I strongly believe we have to come to worldwide standards instead of national standards. The one most important thing is that we all love horses and Fjordhorses and that their well being prevails above everything. And that is the thing that binds us and let us focus on what binds us and not on what divides us. I love to end with the greeting which I once read: Happy Fjoprdin ! Love from Marion in The Netherlands
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This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Peg Knutsen, I could not find you webpage on the address below Did I do something wrong ? Or is it not correct www.eburg.com/~kffjord20 greetings Marion By the way, Hansje is doing better everyday I feel more free on her back, every day Only the saddle still slides to one side because she is so fat, it has nowhere to keep in place But by the end of the month I can get it filled up, so maybe it will keep more in its place then And she will be groing some muscles also Already she walkes more secure than before. She is no loinger seeking her equilibrium
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This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol Rivoire Your letter on proper training and that a lot of people think too easy about it, is very good. I agree completely with it The solution does not lie in sharper mouthpieces, or heavier vehicles to pull, but in proper training before And that takes a long time and consistency But in the end, it works out. Everything you do with your horse can be part of an obedience training Taking him out of his stable, standing still before you put on his halster, pick up his feet, bringing him outside, standing still before he dashes of into freedom etc. Greetings, Marion
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This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yes, ouch I said AUWW when it happened Hansje stood on my toes with her full weight and now one of my toes (the third to be precisely) is blue and bruised and she does not even wear shoes . . . the funny thing is that it almost never has happened to me in the past 10 years My former horse was more submissive and paid attention and when I raised the filly she gave birth to, from an English thoroughbred father, I always wore special protection shoes with a steel nose. But I (and my daughter later) raised him well, hm hm, so whenever he jumpes aside because he sees a ghost or a wehewolf or a sabeltoothtiger he will not jump on our toes. and with Hansje, because she is no sweet, I did not pay enough attention She is a little dominant and wanted to push me aside to be able to look better out of her door and that my foot was in the way did not bother her So I still have some raising to do, to learn her to pay attention to me That even in her stable I am the boss and she is learning that already, because in the first days she would not give foot in her stable, but walked very quick around and I fell on my nose and knees in the straw. The owner of the stables was concerned that the horse had done something mean, but I reassured her that nothing really had happened. She just did not want to give her feet. . . But now it is no problem anymore already. Love, Marion, who walks a little funny these days. . .
Hansje
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey everyone, Hansje is doing fine ! I have ridden her already 2 times for a complete hour, even tried some gallop and she really is very sweet this is the real oldfashioned fjordhorse: does not make a fuss over something, is relaxes but willing to work, very sweet sometimes sturdy, eg not willing to give her right behind foot, but when I grumble then somewhat, okay, she comprehends that I really mean it and she gives her foot everybody here at the ridingschool where she has her rented stable loves her, because she has such a friendly expression She still loves to stare at the other fjord in the mirror and has to get accustomes to riding in a class where everybody rides for him/herself, so from left and right, from before and behind come horses, some a lot bigger than she is. She feels then somewhat threatened, what I can understand and I talk to her and she will trot along I am so happy with her and will keep you informed of our progress. Love, Marion
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This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hallo iedereen Hello everybody Ik heb een nieuw email adres: I have a new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] groeten, greetings, Marion
