Re: Gelding
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry to take so long to reply,I was on holiday in Norway also. I hope you had a nice trip to Britain and the weather was ok Well i guess the reason you didnt see any Fjords is because Britain only has about 200 we are abit thin on the ground over here, most are in the south east and south west (a stud in Devon) A few in wales , a handful in the Midlands, 1 in Derdyshire, 2 in Yorkshire,one or two in Lancashire and afew in scotland and I think thats it. My Fjord gelding Buller came from Denmark he's 12 yrs old, I like going on long rides with him ,I also drive him,my friend Emma takes him to dressage shows, Shows for world breeds are also thin on the ground over here but we try to get to as many as possible. otherwise we just go in Hunter classes ,that sort of thing Mostly the judges havent got a clue what he is , but most of all we have fun! Happy Fjording Fiona,Buller ,Billy and Sadie very wet in Yorkshire today
Gelding
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I dont write very often to the list ,just read, but my friend asked if I could enquire on the list, something her vet asked her? My friend Sue had her young colt Eric gelded last week,Sues Fjords are the first her vet has seen, the vet was very surprised at how tough Erics skin was to cut! The vet asked was it a breed trait ,very tough skin or just Eric? Thanks Fiona Nicholsonwet and windy in Yorkshire, England
Re: Merry Christmas
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELLO FROM FIONA Just a quick message to wish everybody on the list A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Hope you all have a good time, MERRY CHRISTMAS Fiona, Buller,Billy and Sadie Yorkshire ,England (bright and frosty but no snow)
Re: Re Branding in UK
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve I think the Queen might have sent her Dogs to Ireland more for political correctness than practicality. The Royals come under a lot of pressure from animal rights people for their involment in various forms of Hunting especial ,hunting with hounds. Not long after I got Buller I was clipping his mane in the yard and a car drove up,this lady who id never seen before jumped out and started shouting at me and raving,telling me he wasn't a toy or a fashion item and that I was a cruel person!you had to hear it ,she didn't stop for ages! I felt guilty really because when I had chance to tell her about his breed she said sorry and walked off! I didnt' know what else to say, she obviously meant well. A lot of tail docking/ ears etc are now only done for apperance instead of the practical reason it was done for years ago Why do we clip Fjords Manes ,(apart from thats how weve turned them out for a 1000 Years) Happy fjording fiona, Buller, Billy and Sadie
Re:part- breds
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saskia I think most Stud Books over here have a part bred register. Our Fjord Society does also , mind you I've noticed no matter what other breed is used the result always looks like a Fjord! Crossing native types with Arabs or TBs is a popular cross Ive seen quite a few Highland x TBs Ive never seen them but I know of a Fjord x Lippizanner and Fjord x Arads Happy Fjording Fiona,Buller Billy and Sadie
Re Branding in UK
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the subject of Branding The Fjord Society of GB have just had to buy a micro- chip reader, because we've had to stop Hot Branding here from last year. Personally I like the more visible brands, not just for ID but security as Horse stealing is not uncommon, either to sell on or for meat. I think Freeze brands and brands are a good deterent. Stock going for meat has to be killed at the abbatoire by law. Stolen horse with brands/freeze marks are put on the main police computer through HORSE WATCH and sent to all ports, airports , auction houses and slaughter houses. My shetlands are freeze branded through Horsewatch, this should give them a chance if the worst should ever happen. A Policeman who may not be 'horsey' but is looking for a black shetland in the middle of a stock pen at a sale, with lots of other black shetlands, should be able to recognise Billy more instantly. Docking of tails for horse is banned here, and is frowned upon even in dogs. Some vets may still practice it though especially for hunting dogs. Doberman Dogs sure look funny with a tail! Happy Fjording Fiona, Buller, Billy & Sadie Cold but Sunny in Yorkshire today
Re: fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saskia Thanks for the reply, i think you will enjoy meeting some Highlands for real ! The Equine event was good ,Im afraid the Fjord never turned up ,it was a great shame as it is the best event over here to promote breeds at. . My sister Elspeth and I had a good time, we found out more about LE TREC,( Britain held its first cmpetition this year in Scotland at the Glen Tanar Equestrian centre , which also used to be one of the first Fjord studs in Britain.) We think it looks great fun so we are going to go next year and have a go ,riding one of the centres horses,hopefully a Fjord. Do they do Le Trec compititions in Belgium! Elspeth and i checked out all the stalls, i ordered some saddle bags from the Icelandic Horse Society of all places. no body uses saddle bags over here much so its hard to get hold of them. The event was also the Hackney Horse and pony championships I love watching Hackney Driving Classes! My shetties are well very Fluffy and most days muddy! Buller is the same ,he has a passion for mud Well id best go now HAPPY FJORDING Fiona, Buller, Billy and Sadie cold but dry and sunny in Yorkshire today.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] saskia Ive been having trouble with my mail again,i am not always sure it goes? If you are intrested in seeing some more Highlands,try having a look at this web site, www.highland-pony.demon.co.uk it even has an articule about the Belgium Highland society. if you come across any information on Fjord shows in Holland for 1999, that would be great as we would really like to see some. Can you let us know if you hear of anything as we need time to make plans etc. Next week we are going to visit the National Equine event, I guess its abit like Equitania that we have been hearing about on the list. Many breeds will have a horse to exhibit aswell as various lectures and demonstrations for people to attend. I will make sure I watch all the driving ones. All the diffrent breeds will be there, to meet the public,including the fjords i dont know who is going this year ,last year i took Buller we had a great time Buller like nearly all Fjords loves people and ali the pats and fuss,so after two days some of the other breeds i think had had enough of all the visitors but Buller was quite happy. Its a good way to help promote the Breed ,their friendly sweet natures says it all, we had many comments from people who had never seen a Fjord before but were really impressed by their friendliness. We have just attended another 'meet the public' show at Royal Ascot. It was a two day racing weekend, but each day opened with a special horse exhibition with 27 different breeds, mostly attended by Breed champions. Princess Margaret and other dignitaries were present, so it was quite special and on the whole a good experience. It was all filmed and appeared on the special horse racing tv channel. It was my first visit to the races it was really good but i stayed clear of betting on horses ,its better to just watch Happy Fjording FIONA ,BULLER, BILLY and SADIE A lovely sunny day in Yorkshire today
Re: Fjord ?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:36:31 EDT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fjord ? Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does any one on this list know of a stud in the UK called Ausdan Stud? HI Ive been very busy for a while so i havent had chance to read my mail (i had over 650 messages ) the list is certainly getting intresting!! Well one Message i can answer for you the Ausdan stud is the biggest fjord stud over here it is actually in Wales and is the home of the fjord society of GB secretary Lyn Moran. Happy Fjording Fiona in Yorkshire, England. Buller,my fat lovely gelding who i love too bits and my 2 fat Shetlands Billy And Sadie.
cherries
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SASKIA Im glad to hear your good news about Flor Ive not had a problem with cherries but i used to keep my shetlands in a field with a hedge made of damson trees, i had it fenced off when it was in fruit but the shetlands and two other ponies loved eating them. I used to sweep them up every day, only once did they really over do it,it was very windy and lots of fruit fell off and they broke the fence down by the time i arrived from work all 4 of them looked very sorry for them selves. you could hear their stomachs groaning across the paddocks,they all survied of course but i sure had a lot of mucking out to do for a couple of days! when it happened i was actually moving farms and it was amazing even after 2 weeks at the new farm the shetlands were still passing damson stones they must have eaten so many! so what ever type of cherries they are, i would recommed you either remove the trees,or fence around them just in case? If the cherries are an ornamental cherry then im sure they will be poisonous I guess if you had a horse with arthritis hilly pasture might not be so good but im sure the others woud love it , just like the fjords in Norway HAPPY FJORDING Fiona,Buller ,Billy and Sadie Dull and cold in Yorkshire to day
pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone Ive been away from the list for a few weeks on holiday in Scotland and when i got back to work last week the universities computer network had gone a little crazy and then it crashed big time! So i have got rather a lot of mail to catch up with now. Ingvild, thanks for the pictures they are great, ive got some for you if you would like them A friend of mine found this old book shes had over 30yrs its on breeds of the world for some reason the writer has Fjords in it twice. as Danish fjords and Norwegian Fjords but the pictures are really nice. Well i must go home Buller has had nearly 3 weeks off because of my trip to scotland so im going out riding this evening HAPPY FJORDING FIONA ,BULLER ,BILLY AND SADIE warm and sunny in yorkshire today PS Im sorry in advance if this prints out oddly ,it did on my machine.
breed lines
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Ingvild I had a look at your web site and found the pictures of Haakon - Jarl , in fact all the pictures are great, i love the one of the small boy ploughing with 2 fjords with the foal at foot. The close up of the fjord Jordbu is wonderful , i printed it off A3 and put it up on the wall as a poster. On the picture of Haakon - Jarl and Bergfast it refers to them both as "matadoren", what does this mean? ive left the copies of last weeks mail at home and i cannot remember if it was you or susan who said they had a picture of Lidaren and Torbjorn I would love a picture of both of them if it was you ? One of the messages i got yesterday was from you to an American lady about her new fjord mare,you wrote back about the breed line starting with Felder,Lidaren etc Felder is Bullers great grand sire and Lisettes Grand sire,do you know any thing about this horse please? Thanks again for all the information and pictures Happy Fjording FIONA,BULLER BILLY AND SADIE Warm and very wet in Yorkshire today
thank you re breed lines
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELLO EVERYONE Thanks for all the information you all sent me,it s amazing with one Email you filled in a whole history. when i bouht Buller i just liked him i had know idea if he was ok I was given the paper work but it was just names and numbers. I know my friend sue says the same . so thanks for filling in a few blanks, im away for a few days to Scotland so while im on the train going up i will think up some more questions. Saskia I m in Scotland for The Royal Highland Show it one of Britains biggest shows, its also has the largest gathering of Highlands you will see in Scotland ,so i will be taking lots of photos (I always take loads) and i will send you some. Happy Fjording Fiona,Buller,Billy and Sadie warm and sunny in Yorkshire today.
Breed Lines
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Susan and Ingvild (or anyone else who may know the answers) I'm mailing you a joint email so I hope you don't mind. I was very interested in your letters this week. I have learnt alot of things abour Fjords since this list began and from visiting the web site, especially your history page. I had never even heard of Njaal before. So if I ask any really daft questions you know why! So here goes, the first daft question : Does the 'S' infornt of the registration number eg. S 527, stand for Sweden? Also if a registration number has a letter after it, do you know what this means? eg. S 4553 B. Your mail the other day was regarding the 4 breed lines in Norway, I didn't know about them either! You wrote about the most famous off-springs of the Haakon Jarl line - Torbjorn N 1417 and Lidaren N 1653. These names are on my Fjords papers and also on those of my friend Sue's Fjord mare. Do you have a date of birth for these horses so I can tell how far the papers go back. Were they successful horses? Torbjorn is the last on the paper work for both our Fjords. Or if you know any more of Torbjorn N 1417's past that would be of interest to us. Well I bet I could think of 100's of more questions to ask you both, but I will leave it at this for now. Happy Fjording Fiona, Buller, Billy & Sadie and Sue, Froy, Lisette, Phoebe & Girda
fjord book
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Carol I got your e mail today thank you England is so small compared to Canada i forgot to put where Sarnia is ,of course when i thought about it i only know because my cousin lives there! It is in Ontario,near the US border on Lake Huron. When you look at the size of lake Huron i bet England would fit in it! Happy Fjording Fiona,Buller,Bill and Sadie
re- HIGHLANDS /FJORDS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SASKIA Well I finally got around to looking up about Fjords in scotland. From the books I have got ,I found out that the last Fjords to be used to improve stock was in 1890, when 2 stallions where imported from Norway to the Hebridian Islands . i dont know if it was the inner or outer Hebrides but the Island of Rum just below the Isle of Skye has it own breed line and the Rum ponies are dun with eel stripes and some times zedra marks on the legs I had intended to buy a Run type Highland when i first went looking for horse but i saw a Fjord and that was that but they are so similar in every way. The Highland stud book is about 70 yrs old ,but many breeders kept good records long before that. My friend has a Highland Garron the old fashiond draught type, his breeding can be traced to 1896 ,Laird is i think a fine example of a Highland 14.2hs big and very strong,hes no plod though ,hes an excellent jumper and can really cover ground Highlands were used by deer stalkers ,to carry the days hunting home from the moors so they had to be strong . Confirmation wise they are very similar to fjords ,if igo in a horse show and the judge has not seen a fjord before i ask them to judge him like a highland as they will not go to far wrong. Colour , they come in shades of grey to black (black is unusual and very striking) brown, various shades of dun ,some even have strands of cream hair mixed in darker hair just like a fjord with a long mane. As for temperament i have heard people say bad things about them,but I think these folks would say the same about fjords not every one can get on with the" pony temperament " each to his own Personally ive never met an unfriendly one ,they are great to ride sure footed and sensible with lovely pony characters ...just like fjords Laird is as i often joke to my fri
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] saskia, Thanks for putting Bullers picture on the web site,im going to have a go at sending a post card to my canadian cousins. I havent had time yet to check the Highland stud book for fjords but i will this week. I think if you like fjords you would get on with shetlands, my other shetland is in her early 20s 33 inches high,chestnut with a flaxen mane, we call her Sadie(sweetpea). she is on long term loan to me, from an Animal welfare group she was badly neglected by her owners and left to get in a very poor condition , from ignorance . shes OK now although hard ground slows her down,billy and her are best friends ,some times i turn buller out with them, they have a good lark together. we had a good show ,its one of only a few in Britain that has a world breed class, it was a good turn out of diffrent breeds, Buller was 2nd in hand geldings,. 1st in the Ridden class. my friend sharon also went she has a 6yr old stallion,she imported from Norway hes known as Erik , he won the stallion section and the In hand championship. So we were very happy with that, it all .helps to promote them. HAPPY FJORDING FIONA BULLER BILLY AND SADIE WARM AND SUNNY TODAY.
Re: FJORDS/HIGHLANDS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Icelandics Date: Wed, 20 May 98 19:03:53 +0100 From: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:"fjordenlijst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Im no history expert but like you said steve > its hard to >believe the norse settler > > didnt take any Fjords with them to iceland !! > they must >have left them in scotland > > to mix with the highlands instead. It would be interesting to know more about this! > > > i couldnt figure the icelandic owners out so on other >visits i never mentioned > > fjords just enjoyed the riding and > the Scottish hills. the comments of all of you on this list persuaded me that Icelandics are nice ponies, with very strange people as fans/owners! Saskia SASKIA I hope you get your fjord ,im sure driving is a good idea. a few years ago i gave my friend lynn some money so should could buy a shetland we both wanted to rescue from the meat sales,my father would have gone crazy if i had bought it. I know it was wrong but by the time my dad noticed that billy lived with my other shetland and not lynns,the whole family had fallen for billy including my dad he takes bill for walks,well they dont get far dad lets him eat grass on the way. its a holiday this weekend over here ,so i will let you know about fjords/highlands next week, i might as well give you the correct info. (i use a computer at work for e mails) i have a friend in scotland ,a highland breeder her horses are mostly dunn like fjords , fjords were used on the highland stud book Im going to a show on sunday ,it has world breed classes, in-hand,ridden and driving. My friend sharon is travelling up from the midlands with her stallion Erik so it will be good ,two fjords in one show a very rare sight. I m sorry if my mail arrives oddly, i can not type . well im not sure what most of the keys are for?? HAPPY FJORDING FIONA, BULLER, BILLY AND SADIE Sunny and warm in yorkshire
Icelandics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Fiona nicholson , England. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Icelandics are rare over here also but not as rare as fjords. Ive had the pleasure of riding them a few times in scotland, they are amazing to ride especially over rough ground. they do look like over sized shetlands and can act like them also I am very intrested in Shetlands and have afew books on them, one has a picture of some young shetlands pacing and doing the tolt pace at play. It is the colours of them,they come in every colour you can think of and some you would find hard to discribe? the first time i went riding ,they asked me if i had a horse, i said yes a Fjord and to my surprise they also picked fjords to bits and totally denide any link between them. Im no history expert but like you said steve its hard to believe the norse settler didnt take any Fjords with them to iceland !! they must have left them in scotland to mix with the highlands instead. i couldnt figure the icelandic owners out so on other visits i never mentioned fjords just enjoyed the riding and the Scottish hills. Well im sticking with my trusty fjord and shetlands H APPY FJORDING FIONA,BULLER ,BILLY AND SADIE very hot and sunny in Yorkshire
show dates
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Fiona Nicholson ,Yorkshire, England. Some of my friends in our fjord society have asked me to put a message on the list,to see if any body knows the dates of the main Fjord shows in Denmark or Holland ,this year or next. they would like to visit ,most of the fjords in GB are of Danish origin,so they thought that might be agood place to go. I had shown them the mail on the evaluations so it has got them thinking about the standards etc I know from the mail quite a few of you have traveled to Norway and holland do you think my friends would be better to go to norway ! or indeed if anyone has any ideas on how we can learn more about evaluations standards we would like to hear we have only 200 fjords here ,i think only 8 stallions ,most of the fjords are in non showing homes so you only get to see a few fjords ,for real on which we can learn from? well this list is certainly getting us all thinking,so please keep sharing your knownledge with us, its good reading HAPPY FJORDING FIONA,BULLER BILLY AND SADIE The Shetlands VERY HOT AND SUNNY TODAY PS please excuse my typing its hopless !!
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SASKIA I shall tell Buller he has a fan in Belgium he'll like that ! Im glad you got the picture ok, of course by today id forgotten how to scan the pictures already, as i told you yesterday im not very computer friendly I have visited Belgium a few times, going to Holland or Belgium on the ferry is very popular because of the local daily ferry service. Which part of Belgium do you come from ? It is nice where i live, we are on the Yorkshire Wold Hills ,so the riding is good, plenty of nice country lanes and Bridle ways, the area is also Viking country,many of our local place names are scandanavian in origin . maybe Buller and i have ridden in the footsteps of his viking ancestors on one of the ancient by ways we ride on no The historical city of York ,known as jorvik in viking times is just 35 miles away its a beautiful place . so if you are ever in yorkshire i hope we could meet you Happy Fjording! Fiona, Buller,Billy and Sadie the shetlands Very hot and sunny today in East Yorkshire .
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Fiona Nicholson in Yorkshire,England ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hello everyone, Ive been catching up with my mail after a holiday in Scotland,i had over 100 messages. I am really enjoying reading all the mail its full of intresting information and stories, if a Fjord gets a mention in a horse magazine its a major event for us,so its great to get to read this list. Id like to thank Dave for the pictures i had seen the jumping one before its a fantastic photo,just the sort to have when someone tells me " but fjords can't jump!" i hadn't seen the Dressage picture before its lovely, it must be at a very high level? Do you know who the horse and rider are? well i think it will be a while before i need to buy a long tailed coat to ride in i ,dont actually do dressage on him, my friend Emma does a much better jod than i could last year she competed him at affliated events but he wasnt affliated ,we wanted to see how he did and what reaction to him was like from the judges , he did very well and the judges were mostly very constructive . So i have recently affliated him with British Dressage as far as i know hes the only fjord member But dont worry i will not let the snooty remarks put me off infact it makes us more determined to do well you don't need a 17h warmblood to do dressage a rider came up to Emma at a dressage show last year she was reading the result board, he said to her what ever made you bring a driving pony to dressage in a not very complimentry tone! so she turned to him and said yes he is a driving pony and hes just beaten you at dressage?? his horse was a 17 h warmblood! of course we do actually like warmbloods but some times its hard to resist a bit of fun making when people say really stupid remark like that the mail on the evaluation s is really intresting ive been trying to find out about the testing of stock for ages but what bit i found was in Dutch or Danish I had to go to the Danish church in Hull to find a Danish speaker to read bullers papers when i got him and to tell me what his name meant but i figured translating articules from magazines was a bit too much to ask well id best go now , its poring with rain and id best go and muck out my ponies FIONA ,BULLER , BILLY AND SADIE THE SHETLANDS
fjord horse society of GB
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO Dave McWethy Thanks for message,I dont always have time to read my Emails everyday (my machine is at work) so sorry for the delay in replying. You are right we are really spoilt for choice over here especially for naitive mountain & moorland types. Fjords are so rare here, very few people even know what breed they are, let alone what they can do, so i guess people dont want to take a chance on a virtually unheard of breed. I myself was actually looking for a Highland when I found a picture of a Beautiful Fjord stallion so I did a little homework and tracked down the society but Buller was the first Fjord I'd ever seen. I personally wouldnt want any other breed they are so versatile Mind you we in Britain are very set in our ways, when it comes to Horses and Ponies,any thing under 14.2hs is more or less thought of as a childs pony. I hear people at Dressage and other ridden events calling him a Driving type Pony and i dont think this opinion helps sell them. many members of the society go showing to show people what Fjords can do! You can contact the society at FJORD HORSE SOCIETY OF GB CILYBLAIDD MANOR, PENCARREG Nr LAMPETER, CAMARTHENSHIRE, SA40 9Q4. WALES GB BYE FIONA
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Ive just joined the list so i thought i had best introduce my self my nane is Fiona Nicholson, i live in Yorkshire England i have a Danish bred Fjord gelding called Buller he's 11yrs old this summer and iv'e had him for 5 yrs We try our hand at most things , like Driving, all kinds of showing classes long distance riding and Dressage Fjords are very rare in Britain about 200 in all,so we get asked a lot what type of horse he is. we have a small society (Fjord Horse Society of GB) Our secretary produces 2 news sheets ayear and we hold a Breed show/Family day once a year bye fiona & Buller
