An update from Denmark
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen taasi...@mail.dk I have noticed that very recently there has been a discussion about Facebook versus the Digest. I admit that for a long time I have spent more time on Facebook than I have on the Digest. I agree with those of you saying that there is much more substance here. Facebook is fast and shallow and it is incredible how much nonsense and ignorance you expose yourself to. So why am I there? Not because of my own profile ? I seldom write anything there, but because the Danish Studbook for Fjord Horses has a handful of groups about Fjord Horses. We want these groups to be places where the members can learn about the breed and have fun at the same time. I am one of the monitors in these groups and it takes a lot of time, but things are improving, though too many group members still have very little sense for the importance of having respect for the breed?s history and the current breed standards. We have also created a Facebook site in English ? The Fjord Horse Studbook in Denmark - where we tell about the Fjord Horses in Denmark. Perhaps you know that you do not need to have a Facebook profile in order to view Facebook sites. I therefore invite you ?Facebook-haters? to take a look (maybe not the best time of the year because not much has been written in January, - we have been in hibernation mode). https://www.facebook.com/TheFjordHorseStudbookInDenmark?ref=hl [https://www.facebook.com/TheFjordHorseStudbookInDenmark?ref=hl] I have noticed that Brian Jensen (hello Brian) has recently written that most European countries ?have a mandatory requirement for all mares and stallions be Evaluated in Conformation, before being allowed to breed?. However that is not entirely true. Stallion evaluation is mandatory in the Nordic countries and in Continental Europe, but there is no such demand for mares and I don?t think there has ever been. Apart from that I don?t think that we could make such a decision in the national Studbooks, the European legislation would not allow it. Station tests are becoming less common in Europe. Norway had the last station test in 2013. Denmark has also abolished the 30 days test. Sweden has ? to my knowledge ? never had it, and the same can be said about the Netherlands. Germany still has the test, and probably the most demanding test there has ever been in Europe. It is true that there has been a decline in Fjord foaling numbers in Europe. The global crisis is partly guilty in that, but the European legislation has also given us many strange rules that makes life difficult for horse owners and many have downsized or given up. However in Denmark we experience a huge interest from the young people when it comes to riding Fjord Horses. 15 years ago it wasn?t nearly as trendy. We have had our own Fjord shows for many years but in the last 10 years our riders also compete in classes with representatives from most breeds in Denmark and they are doing very well. We arrange national championships for our riders and drivers, the studbooks in the Nordic countries invites to National championships every second year and till now we have seen three European championships for Fjord Horses and their riders and drivers. 2006 in Denmark, 2009 and 2012 in Germany. In Denmark we hope to be able to arrange the next European Championship in 2016, where we once again are celebrating a Studbook Jubilee. It could be 85 years or it could be 75 years. In 1931 it was decided to establish a national evaluation system in conformation and in 1941 the first printed studbook was printed with evaluated stallions and mares. In 2001 we incorporated geldings in our evaluation system. Many greetings from Denmark Birgit Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Virus; problem hopefully solved now; Milli Ann Denmark
This message is from: Linda Lehnert lindalehn...@hotmail.com I did NOT send any messages about pharmacies. Someone apparently hacked into my hotmail and has been sending these messages out. I had a virus and had someone work on my computer. This person also installed new anti-virus software. Hopefully, the problem is now solved. I hope this didn't inconvenience anyone. I had a nice visit with Milli Ann Denmark in Magnolia, TX on 11 August. I was in Texas visiting my cousin. She has 6 beautiful Fjords with a great place to keep them. Milli Ann is a delightful lady, very friendly. I enjoyed my visit tremendously and hope I can visit her again when I go back in November. Linda Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Virus; problem hopefully solved now; Milli Ann Denmark
This message is from: jerry friz jf...@com-pair.net Hi Linda, Thanks for letting us know. I figured it was something like that. Lots of this going around for the last couple of months. [ I never opened the posts from you] Jerry in N. Ca -- I did NOT send any messages about pharmacies. Someone apparently hacked into my hotmail and has been sending these messages out. I had a virus and had someone work on my computer. This person also installed new anti-virus software. Hopefully, the problem is now solved. I hope this didn't inconvenience anyone. I Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Milli Anne Denmark
This message is from: Linda Lehnert lindalehn...@hotmail.com Milli Anne, if you're still on this list, please send me an e-mail. Linda Lehner in guben _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what youre up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soci al-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
World Driving Championchip pony '07 in Denmark, day one
This message is from: Birgit [EMAIL PROTECTED] There was a Danish winner in dressage for single ponies, but it was not a Fjordhorse. Rochelle Temple from USA placed second with her morgan gelding. If you want to see all the results from day one, you can find them here. http://www.wdch-pony-07.dk/download/onlineresults/DEN/WDCH.20070719.2007072 2/DRESSAGE.htm http://www.wdch-pony-07.dk/download/onlineresults/DEN/WDCH.20070719.20070722 /DRESSAGE.htm The Danish fjordhorses placed 7 and 11, the Norwegian singles 17 and 27 out of 29. But of course a lot of things can change on the next two competition days. Saturday the very exciting marathon takes places and Sunday is the third competition-day. Today Friday the dressage continues. 43 pairs and 4-in-hands will compete, among them only one fjord-pair from Denmark and a 4-in-hand from Germany. You can follow the competition on the abovementioned link. Best regards from sunny Denmark (wonderful after close to a month with rain and rain) Birgit The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Denmark/Norway DVDs/2008
This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the ordering and sending of these DVDs is caught up. Contact me privately to check on your order. Brian Jensen Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Update on Denmark/Norway DVDs
This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear list from Brian Jensen, The mail is SLOW! Just to let you know that to date, I have sent only one set of DVDs. They went to Lutheran Social Services of South Dakota. I have copies ready to be sent as the mail comes in. I know they are coming. Brian J Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
FW: Denmark/Norway DVD's
This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am resending this to the Fjord list as I did not see it appear the last two days. BJ -Original Message- From: Ursula Brian Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:52 AM To: fjordlist Subject: Denmark/Norway DVD's Greetings from Brian Jensen; Ursula and I have just returned from Denmark and Norway. I took about eight hours of video, and have edited it down to three DVDs. I will make a set of three DVDs available to Fjord members for $35.00 all inclusive for the set. If interested send a check to Brian Jensen, Box 1032, Lumby BC Postal Code---VOE-2GO 1-DVD of Denmark including two young stock shows and two stud farms-2hrs. Commentary is in Danish and English. 2-DVD of Norway including the mature stallion tests of Jumping, Riding, Driving, and Draft. Short clip of International Guest gathering. Commentary in English and Norwegian-2hrs. 3-DVD of Norway, Saturday finals and awards. Stallion parade Best of Show. Commentary by Phil Odden. Phillip and Elsa's son playing the fiddle at the banquet Commentary in Norwegian and English. 2hrs. Any profits will be donated to the NFHR and the CFHA Brian Jensen Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Denmark/Norway DVD's
This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings from Brian Jensen; Ursula and I have just returned from Denmark and Norway. I took about eight hours of video, and have edited it down to three DVDs. I will make a set of three DVDs available to Fjord members for $35.00 all inclusive for the set. If interested send a check to Brian Jensen, Box 1032, Lumby BC Postal Code---VOE-2GO 1-DVD of Denmark including two young stock shows and two stud farms-2hrs. Commentary is in Danish and English. 2-DVD of Norway including the mature stallion tests of Jumping, Riding, Driving, and Draft. Short clip of International Guest gathering. Commentary in English and Norwegian-2hrs. 3-DVD of Norway, Saturday finals and awards. Stallion parade Best of Show. Commentary by Phil Odden. Phillip and Elsa's son playing the fiddle at the banquet Commentary in Norwegian and English. 2hrs. Any profits will be donated to the NFHR and the CFHA Brian Jensen Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
More Denmark Jubilee video
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] And here is some of the Jumping competition. More to follow...in a few days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiP6O3Wng-g Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New Years Greetings from Denmark
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I remember it was Curt Pierce who in July told the list and especially the people from Northamerica travelling to the Danish jubilee in August that they were going to meet the most happy people in the world, i.e. the Danes .. Recently more news have been published on that subject. In the Xmas issue of British Medical Journal (BMJ) you can read an article (written by a professor, a paediatrician and a director from the University in my hometown). They have considered a lot of possible reasons for all this happiness, starting with the old saying 'blondes have more fun' (blond being a very common hair colour in Denmark). They work their way through 12 possible reasons. Their conclusion is very surprising. Actually we Danes are very pessimistic with very low expectations for the future. On every single New Years Eve we expect the worst in the year to come ... and when 'the worst' does not happen, we are happy. It is so simple as that When the article is published in the Xmas issue of BMJ the reason might be that this issue allows articles about research not based on truly scientific methods. Scientific or not .. When Autumn comes with rain and short days/long evenings a lot of Danes spirits go down. Already in 1986 one of our melancholic poets - Henrik Nordbrandt - wrote a poem with the title 'The year has 16 months' (November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, November, November, November). In consequence of his dislike for our climate (especially in November and the other dark months) he has chosen to spend most of his time in the Mediteranian region Half of the Danes have been coughing and sneezing their way into 2007, so now of course we are happy that we survived. All the best wishes for 2007 Birgit P.S. The fjords in Denmark have seen no sign of winter yet, no snow and no temperatures below the freezing point - but a lot of rain. Our exhibition- and outdoor event-season starts in April and as usual some of us will be in Norway four months from now (stallion exhibition, of course) But before that I will spend some hours in January sending letters to the US with things I promised to send in October in Winona ... The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Sandy! I wonder how I can find out bloodlines and pedigrees, wish I had access to the Norwegian and Danish stud books. Do you know if that info is on their websites? (Of course I would have to be able to READ Norwegian and Danish languages.) Thanks for sharing all these wonderful photos. Jean The Danish Fjord horse website (http://www.fjordhest.dk/) has at least some of the results. Just follow the 65th Anniversary 2006 link and drill down until you get to the results tables. The horses you asked about are numbers 142 and 115. The lighter one, 142, is Hojaards Picasso. You should be able to match up some of the numbers in my photos with the information from this website and research to your heart's content!! Sandy
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] We loved the pictures. Our daughter-in-law got the scissors out and we adopted the trim where the white is very short and the black is longer. OE says that the only difference between a good and bad haircut is two weeks. Actually, they look pretty good. Thanks for the pictures, we really enjoyed them. Pat Wilson
Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fantastic photos! Especially intrigued by the mane doos!! Next time I mess up on cutting, I can turn the mane into something exotic!! Very creative. Beautiful horses and photos, thanks for sharing. Cheryl in S. Cal
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you happen to know who that all white Fjord teamed with the light brown or red dun was? That darker fjord also didn't seem to have an obvious stripe either. It looked like no stripe in that white Fjord's mane..was it a yellow? would be interested in knowing bloodlines The Danish Fjord horse website (http://www.fjordhest.dk/) has at least some of the results. Just follow the 65th Anniversary 2006 link and drill down until you get to the results tables. The horses you asked about are numbers 142 and 115. The lighter one, 142, is Hojaards Picasso. You should be able to match up some of the numbers in my photos with the information from this website and research to your heart's content!! Sandy
Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone, First of all, we're very sorry for the problems we created on the list concerning the auto-reply. We thought it would be prudent, considering people expect answers to their e-mail enquiry to the Herald editors, but apparently it turned out to be a disaster. Thank you, Steve, for taking care of the problem. We had a wonderful time in Denmark and would like to thank Hank and Bitten Nors for making the travel arrangements. Also to Birgit Mortensen for helping out on her end, and for organizing such a spectacular event. I believe there were over 200 fjord horses, with participants from Denmark, Norway, Holland, Germany and Sweden. Each country was well represented by talented horses, riders, drivers and handlers. Of special note, quite a number of the horses competing were breeding stallions. A testament to the breed, and to Denmark, for paying attention to one of the most important attributes of this breed, temperament. Sandy took over 1500 photographs while we were there. There are lots of stories to tell, I'm sure, but for now I'll let the photos speak for themselves. You can see them on our website: http://www.starfirefarm.com click on Denmark Jubilee. This is the first time we've used a slide show type of photo viewer. Hope it works out for you. Enjoy, Beth
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great pics! I haven't gotten through all of them but got past the jumping to the Carriage driving again: Do you happen to know who that all white Fjord teamed with the light brown or red dun was? That darker fjord also didn't seem to have an obvious stripe either. It looked like no stripe in that white Fjord's mane..was it a yellow? would be interested in knowing bloodlines Fun to see some of the innovative mane styles, and also to see the different harnessing styles. It would be helpful if photos had numbers so we could point out certain ones, get info, etc. Thanks for posting all of them! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudy , had fog this morning after a LOT of rain yesterday. At 08:04 AM 8/13/2006 -0600, you wrote: Sandy took over 1500 photographs while we were there. There are lots of stories to tell, I'm sure, but for now I'll let the photos speak for themselves. You can see them on our website: http://www.starfirefarm.com click on Denmark Jubilee. This is the first time we've used a slide show type of photo viewer. Hope it works out for you. Enjoy, Beth
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Ernest wrote: Great pics! Thanks! Do you happen to know who that all white Fjord teamed with the light brown or red dun was? That darker fjord also didn't seem to have an obvious stripe either. It looked like no stripe in that white Fjord's mane..was it a yellow? would be interested in knowing bloodlines... There was some debate as to whether the lighter one was a yellow or not. It had a very faint dorsal stripe in the mane, hardly noticeable. The Danish people I spoke with thought it was a light red. The darker horse is a red. I don't remember the driver's name. Don't have time to look it up right now. Maybe later. It would be helpful if photos had numbers so we could point out certain ones, get info, etc. Sorry, just doing this took the better part of two days. No time to add numbers. Thanks for posting all of them! You're welcome. http://www.starfirefarm.com click on Denmark Jubilee. This is the first time we've used a slide show type of photo viewer. Hope it works out for you. Enjoy, Beth Sandy took over 1500 photographs while we were there. There are lots of stories to tell, I'm sure, but for now I'll let the photos speak for themselves. You can see them on our website:
Re: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a great slide show! thank you so much for sharing it with us! Sarah in Jamul Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Starfire Farm Hello Everyone, First of all, we're very sorry for the problems we created on the list concerning the auto-reply. We thought it would be prudent, considering people expect answers to their e-mail enquiry to the Herald editors, but apparently it turned out to be a disaster. Thank you, Steve, for taking care of the problem. We had a wonderful time in Denmark and would like to thank Hank and Bitten Nors for making the travel arrangements. Also to Birgit Mortensen for helping out on her end, and for organizing such a spectacular event. I believe there were over 200 fjord horses, with participants from Denmark, Norway, Holland, Germany and Sweden. Each country was well represented by talented horses, riders, drivers and handlers. Of special note, quite a number of the horses competing were breeding stallions. A testament to the breed, and to Denmark, for paying attention to one of the most important attributes of this breed, temperament. Sandy took over 1500 photographs while we were there. There are lots of stories to tell, I'm sure, but for now I'll let the photos speak for themselves. You can see them on our website: http://www.starfirefarm.com click on Denmark Jubilee. This is the first time we've used a slide show type of photo viewer. Hope it works out for you. Enjoy, Beth Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: Photos of Denmark Jubilee
This message is from: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beth, Your photographs are spectacular. Two shots in particular in the cones, where the horses were airborne with all four feet off the ground. Many, many thanks for the effort involved in making those available to all of us. If you haven't done so already: go to: http://www.starfirefarm.com and click in Danish Jubilee on the left side. You not be able to stop viewing the pictures until they are all doneand there are a whole lot. Time well spent... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396
Denmark
This message is from: Curt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I just found some timely news for all those going to the Danish Jubilee. LONDON, England (Reuters) -- If you're looking for happiness, move to Denmark. It's the happiest country in the world while Burundi in Africa is the most unhappy, according to a new report by a British scientist released on Friday. Adrian White, an analytical social psychologist at the University of Leicester in central England, based his study on data from 178 countries and 100 global studies from the likes of the United Nations and the World Health Organization. We're looking much more at whether you are satisfied with your life in general, White told Reuters. Whether you are satisfied with your situation and environment. The main factors that affected happiness were health provision, wealth and education, according to White who said his research had produced the first world map of happiness. Following behind Denmark came Switzerland, Austria, Iceland and the Bahamas. At the bottom came the Democratic Republic of Congo, Zimbabwe and Burundi. The United States came in at 23rd, Britain was in 41st place, Germany 35th and France 62nd. So, for all those going to the Danish Jubilee next week, have a great time in a Happy country! You will also see some awsome and happy Fjords. Regards, Curt Pierce and Marsha Korose Mathias, WV
Re: Hello from Denmark
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Birgit, Thank you for your wonderful post! It is really very helpful to hear the insight from someone who understands the system so thoroughly, plus has access to all of the old documentation! Could you clarify as to what you mean by ranked in quality? Is it also correct to say that at the time of this ranking, the 4 year old stallions, regardless of quality, could not receive a higher than 3 pr.? Is this due to the need to evaluate their offspring or to re-evaluate the stallions themselves once more mature? I just want to make sure I completely understand your post. :) I take it a stallion does not need to rank in quality to be issued a breeding license? I think some of the confusion lies in the fact that we give ribbons versus just scores plus we do not have a system to where the stallions are brought back to be awarded licenses. Because of this, I imagine it is really easy for us as Americans to assume a 3 pr. is similar to a yellow ribbon here, or a 2 pr. a red ribbon, or a 1 pr. a blue ribbon. It sounds like the only way we can do such a comparison is with a stallion from Norway that has gone through the entire Norwegian evaluation system. However, even that might not be a fair comparison for if I remember correctly, Norway has a system in place to evaluate the offspring of the stallion, yes? So if the stallion does not produce quality offspring his license is eventually revoked? For us, a stallion will always retain a blue regardless of offspring produced. Birgit, I would appreciate any clarification you can offer. Thanks so much for your post, it was really helpful! Lynda Thanks much, references are available. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html
Hello from Denmark
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list, In Fjordhorse-Digest no 104 Lynda is writing: Does Anyone have a hard copy of Norway's stud book. I do, but I have something, which I think is better. I am the lucky owner of a lot of old Norwegian magazines, among them no 2 from 1980 with an article about the stallion evaluation. About the 3 years old it is told that nine of them was ranked in quality, and their trotting-time is mentioned too: Quality Name Trotting-time And 3. pr. no 1Pedro N 1837 2.46,8 no 2Soelvgraaen N 1840 3.15,7 no 3Breimning N 1838 2.46,8 no 4Hovdaren N 1835 2.45,9 no 5Brynte N 18412.57,6 no 6Soelvar-Aal N 1850 2.46,1 no 7Bestmin N 1834 2.50,0 no 8Fjellvind N 1844 2.58,5 no 9Ljosen N 18483.03,2 Not ranked in quality (mentioned in cataloque-order) 3. pr. Norddal N 1836 2.51,6 3. pr. Hildring N 1839 2.50,4 3. pr. Dragulv N 1842 2.46,0 3. pr. Ernarson N 1843 3.11,3 3. pr. Staalgraaen N 1845 3.26,4 3. pr. Gjest N 1846 2.40,4 3. pr. Kvaring N 1847 2.42,4 3. pr. Solar N 1849 3.09,8 3. pr. Trajan N 18512.31,1 You can read about the 1981 stallion-evaluation in Fjordhesten no 2, 1981. Now the abovementioned stallions was 4 years old and had to be evaluated in class 2, which as far as I know at that time most of all was a class, where you choose to take your 4 and 5 year old horses, either to have them licensed for the first time or hoping to sell them, because they could still not be evaluated higher than 3. pr. at that time. Therefore it was a small class. None of the five attending was ranked in quality, when the evaluation results were published: 3. pr. Hyar N 1827 2.47,8 3. pr. Staalgraaen N 1845 no trotting-time is mentioned 3. pr. Gjest N 1846 2.39,7 3. pr. Hjallar N 1855 2.56,4 licensed for 3 years:Myrmann N 1856 2.26,9 The in 1980 ranked stallions Hovdaren and Bestmin was later sold to Denmark. Hovdaren have produced many beautiful mares here. Bestmin was close to a disaster, when it came to offspring. 16 daughters have been evaluated, only one in I class, four in II class A and 11 in II class B (which nobody aim at). The not ranked Trajan was also sold to Denmark, where he had better breeding results than Bestmin, but not as good as Hovdaren. So ranking a young stallion is not always the truth. Some years ago the trotting-test in Norway was replaced by the loose-showing in the riding hall, I think mainly because the competition about getting the fastest time in the trotting test spoiled the trot-rhythm for a lot of the stallions. Hope this will help to clarify the situation Best regards from Denmark Birgit P.S. So many things to read after some windy, wet and cold days in Norway. As far as I remember it was stated some Digest-numbers ago that Tor Nestaas had evaluated Gjest in the states. But he must have been mistaken for somebody else. Tor declares that he regrettably has never set foot in NA!
Our shopping trip to Denmark
This message is from: Pat Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] This article is to long to put on the digest so if you would like to have a look. Go to the article section on my web site at. www.patwolfefjords.com. Pat Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BLUP in Denmark (long)
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Digest no 269, 272 and 273 For those of you interested in breeding, what follows is a little about the 'all important' index-figures, i.e. the figures computed from the success of a stallion or mare's progeny, and the evaluations in the family. This figure gives a common standard throughout our country to guide potential breeders and set standard to when a stallions breeding license can be taken away and when a stallion and a mare can be entered in our Elite-studbook. Now that this years index-figures have arrived from 'the big computer' we can see that out of the 52 licensed breeding stallions in 2004 only one has lost his breeding license due to the index-figures. The stallion in question is the last active Rei Halsnaes-son, Caesar Halsnaes. Caesar Halsnaes is 27 years old and has been semi-retired as a breeding stallion for some years. But he will not be forgotten. We have 63 evaluated son and daughters of his in our database and 154 grandchildren. He has also been licensed in Germany, so there will be offspring of his there too. 13 years ago his index was 135. Today it is 118. Breeding is about improving, and when that happens, the younger stallions rise up the lists, and the older ones get pushed down. Several of you have mentioned on the digest how much you thought of Rei Halsnaes (born 1971), and he was the 'super-stallion' in his time, today his index is 123. He is registered with 107 evaluated sons and daughters and 521 grandchildren, and there is no doubt that the family has kept his index up. Number one on today's list is Knast Halsnaes (grandfather Caesar Halsnaes), who was sold to Sweden about 12 years ago. His index is 142. I suppose you don't know many of the Danish stallions, but some of you might have heard about number 5 on the list Kastanjegaardens Fernando (grandfather Knast Halsnaes), who since 2001 has been standing at Green Valley Farm in Illinois. His index is 137. The index-figure is always mentioned in combination with another figure, which indicates the certainty of the index. We actually receive two stallion-lists, the abovementioned one for the older stallions, where the certainty level starts with 0,70 and the other for the younger stallions (where only a few if any offspring have been evaluated) and where the certainty level starts at 0,56. We receive lists every year with index-figures for the foals with evaluated parents. A foal-index is meant to tell you of the breeding potential of the individual, and is simply an average of the parents index-figures, and the certainty-level is low. It is not always that a young stallions with a good initial index-figures will get a breeding-license or that he will keep it at his second or third evaluation. When the colt has attended his first evaluation the certainty-level goes up to 0,56, but it is still to be remembered that he might have inherited his good index and may not be able to pass the qualities on to his offspring. So what really determines the certainty level (for good or for bad) is the number of evaluated offspring and the results of the evaluations. And not to forget: we have also received the 2004 index-figures for more than 3000 evaluated mares, 3 years and older. Hope I haven't bored you. If you were to ask me, if all our members are interested in BLUP, the answer is 'no'. Many have fjordhorses because they like the life with them, they enjoy the sight of them and the foals on the pasture and they like to ride and drive. But another group studies the index-figures and the evaluation-descriptions, because they want the very best if possible. Through the stallion-evaluations we try to secure a group of good breeding stallions available for everybody (interested in BLUP or not). Should you be interested in having a look at this years breeding stallions, you will find them on www.fjordhest.dk, click the Danish flag in the middle, and then click the left-corner below stallion Rosendalsborken (who by the way would now be over 100 years old, having been born in Norway in 1863). In less than a month next years stallion directory will be published, and there is a lot of changes due to sales to abroad and various other factors. Best regards from Denmark Birgit
Re: Birgit Denmark representative at Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Birgit - Thank you for bringing to our attention the great influence Denmark has made in the Fjord world in general and in North America in particular. I have been privy to the Danish influence and particulars but many of our membership are not aware. Another Modellen offspring that is cause to be proud - is Silas, owned, trained and shown by Patti Walter - she has been showing him in open hunter and jumper competitions and considering soon - Eventing. I just saw a video of him in a jumper class and it was unbelievable. If we could figure out a way to braid the mane he would not look out of place in a A rated (AHSA) USeq sanctioned show. I am very serous about an open invitation for representatives of the European nations to come to Blue Earth next July. Considering your position with your organization - if you are not able to attend, would you consider sending Soren and Vibieka Juellund. It is my understanding he is the breeder of Rei Halsnaes and along with his very talented wife has made the greatest influence regarding that line in not only Denmark but Germany as well. I had the fortunate opportunity to speak to Vibieka on several occasions a few years ago, I believe they as a couple are excellent representatives. Please feel free to contact me regarding attending the Midwest Fjord Horse Club Show in July 2005. Our presentation of the Fjord next July will be above and beyond anything ever presented in North America. That I will assure you. Plans are being made already. I have several dedicated people working with me as we speak, I plan to keep active the enthusiasm created by this years show and continue to receive ideas and support. I am meeting with several of my committee people in two weeks while attending an evaluation in Wisconsin. Looking forward to hearing from you Pat Holland, MWFHC Show Chairman
Fjord-news from Denmark
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last week we evaluated our mares and geldings. We have also been evaluating stallion-offspring and mare-offspring. Stallion-offspring is necessary, if the stallion shall maintain his breeding license. Mare-offspring is not necessary, but a possibility for the mare owners. Two things could be interesting for people in US. I noticed the other day that Aimee Day was writing about her Danish import mare Malene Stanstorp. Last weekend the breeder of Malene decided to show two sisters and one brother (a gelding) after Malene's mother Muddi Stanstorp. Muddi was given a bronze medal for offspring. Muddi was born in 1978 and 16 foals have been registered, Malene was number 3. Number 2, Mikkel Stanstorp was a breeding stallion in Denmark and was later sold to Germany. At the same time as Muddi Stanstorp was a good mother she was also a very good driving horse. In 1986 she won the Danish championship together with a halfsister and two years later they participated once again, this time they were number 2 in the competition (but with the same scores as the winner - also fjordhorses). The highlight of our evaluation week took place Sunday with the medal mare evaluation. 22 mares, earlier evaluated with I class, met trying to get scores enough to receive a medal (the highest possible class for mares in Denmark). 10 of them got the medal. Number 1 and 8 were daughters of Kastanjegaardens Fernando, now standing at Green Valley Farm. So congratulations to Sophie and Howard and those of you, who have had Fernando-foals in your stables. I have noticed that a lot of you are writing about bad weather. It is not much better in Denmark - at least we do not feel it is summer. But we have been promised that the sun and the summer will come soon. Best regards from Denmark Birgit
Re: Denmark Celebration
This message is from: Mike Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] take me of what ever list this is. thank you - Original Message - From: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Denmark Celebration This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations Pat and many more happy and fruitful years with your boy. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: Denmark Celebration
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations Pat and many more happy and fruitful years with your boy. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: Denmark Celebration
This message is from: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howard and Sophie just called from Vilhelmsborg, Denmark where they attended the 60th Jubilee. They said it is held at beautiful grounds around an old castle dating back to the 17th century. We were very happy to hear the stallion we imported last year Kastanjegardens Fernando's sire Orion Halsnaes was named overall stallion and Orion's dam Julie Halsnaes was given a special ceremony in honor of her getting a Gold Medal- the highest award for a mare. And a four year old sister to our stallion was named over all mare. I think we're very lucky to have been able to buy him. Awhile ago someone asked us why Denmark wanted to sell him to us. If he was so good they would have kept him. - Well, the thing is he wasn't for sale. We saw him on a tape along with five other stallions being unloaded from a van going to the 30 day stallion test - the stallions were being led back and forth for a veterinary inspection. When we showed interest in him half way through the testing - we said we'd buy him no matter what the outcome of the test - the owners said ok. As it turned out he was one of only two that received federal approval - and now this year shows he is a top of the line horse with very, very good bloodlines. Many of you know I don't get on the list and brag (much) - but this stuff is really good and I just had to tell everyone! Pat from Green Valley Farm
Jubilee in Denmark
This message is from: Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] My name is Birgit Mortensen. I have been reading the mailing list since March this year and many interesting things have been debated, but this is my first contribution to the list. I am chairman (or should I write chairwoman) in Fjordhesteavlen i Danmark (The National Fjordhorse Stud Book Association of Denmark). I would like to tell you about the jubilee we are celebrating in Denmark this year. I apologize for the length of the information! In Denmark we have had fjordhorses in many, many years, probably due to the fact that Denmark is neighbour-country to Norway, mother-country of the fjordhorse. In 1931 some foresighted people decided that the fjordhorses in Denmark should be registered and evaluated. After 10 years the first Danish studbook was published, containing 50 stallions and 304 mares. Since then evaluations have taken place every year and this year The Danish Fjordhorse Studbook Association is celebrating its 60 years studbook jubilee. In July we are evaluating mares in around 10 local places all over Denmark. And for the first time ever we have invited geldings to these evaluations. Traditionally evaluations have been seen as an important part of our breeding programme and geldings are of course not breeding animals, but as I have seen it mentioned on this list a gelding is a product of a breeding process, and an evaluation can give you valuable information about the parents and about the evaluated horse. In Denmark evaluation of offspring have long since been a part of our breeding programme, and a stallion can lose his breeding licence, if our evaluators find the get of not sufficient quality. In august Denmark is hosting the Nordic championship for riders and drivers and we are looking very much forward to this event. Apart from fjordhorses from Norway, Sweden, Denmark and - it is to be hoped - Finland (the four Scandinavian countries) we expect participants from Germany (another neighbour country) and Switzerland. In September (7.-9.) we have a jubilee-evaluation at Denmark's national Horse-center (www.Vilhelmsborg.dk). Normally we have our stallion evaluation at this time with 40-50 participating horses including a performance test for the 4 year old stallions (end of a 30 days training period). Because of the jubilee we are also inviting our best mares (4 years and older) to our medal evaluation (a medal being the highest possible award for a mare). We invite our best 2 years old mares to a finale and there will also be a foal finale for both fillies and colts. Evaluated geldings will also be invited to participate. Lastly, on Sunday, we invite the earlier evaluated mares and stallions to participate in show classes. Fjordhorses from other countries are welcome to participate in the show classes and stallions can attend the evaluation-classes. During the three days stallion of the year, mare of the year and gelding of the year will be appointed. Friday an international evening will be arranged for fjordhorse-lovers from all over the world. Saturday afternoon a fjordhorse-show is planned. Saturday evening the jubilee-dinner will take place. Guests from abroad are very welcome in Denmark and we would like to show you the result of our 70 years breeding programme. Perhaps some of you have already visited our website (www.fjordhest.dk), where we have a small section in English with an invitation and the programme. Denmark in September is nice, late summer/early autumn. Vilhelmsborg is situated in beautiful surroundings south of Aarhus, the second largest town in Denmark (tourist-information available on www.visitaarhus.com). A special greeting to those of you I met at the stallion evaluation in Norway in May. Birgit E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fjordhest.dk
Back from Denmark
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello al Fjord-listers! I've got back yesterday after having spent 10 days on an intensive course in Denmark and realised that I'd got several private messages concerning colours in my e-mailbox. I will reply to these as soon as possible. Sorry to have kept you waiting! We had two full day exkursions roaming the countryside of Jutland by bus looking at ancient monuments like the mounds and famous runestone of Jelling (where the story about the christianization of Denmark is mentioned) and the Viking Age city of Ribe. Between the sites I amused myself with counting fjordhorses. I saw 23 of them (including one foal) during the trips. All were brown dun, two were the darkest brown duns I've ever seen. All fjords but one had their manes properly trimmed and most of them in Dutch/Danish style. But now I'm back, and my own fjords seemed very pleased, they came running to the fence, when I turned up today. I was very touched - then I realised that it was 12 AM - lunch time. Guess they didn't care if it had been King Kong - they wanted to have FOOD. Regards Anneli * Anneli Sundkvist Department of Archaeology Ancient History Uppsala University St. Eriks Torg 5 S-753 10 Uppsala Sweden Phone: +46-18-4712082 (dept.) +46-18-553627 (home) - Original Message - From: Eike Schoen-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:57 AM Subject: greys, brown parents and reds This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eike Schoen-Petersen) Hi Anneli, I really enjoy your knowledgable comments on colour, in my country many people are very confused about the inheritance of colour. My problem is, my horses don't know about statistics! Almost every time possible they insist on red duns! So your model of two brown dun parents carrying the grey (or non-brown) gene should include the possibility of them being heterozygous for red. That allows for less greys and some reds - or - as in my case - quite a few reds! Out of five non-red stallions we have used at our farm four carried the red gene. We have an old brown dun mare Rikke Tyler out of Flicka(Trold-Torgul) by Reidulf(by Valebu-Dyre), quite light but not ulsblakk, who has Appaloosa-striped hooves (not as contrasting as the Appaloosas, but with no white at the coronet and evenly distributed over all hooves) She has never had a foal with a white mark, but out of 8 foals with 5 different brown dun or grey stallions she has brought 5 red duns! Must be our personal magnetism for red... Any scientific ideas beyond the basics (is there another factor influencing the passing of red genes?) would be appreciated. To anybody reading Dutch the book Het Paard en sin Kleurenrijkdom by Wiersema gives a lot of insight into colour genetics in horses, together with interesting pictures, though it is not the most recent (library of congress should have it and maybe loan it?). Best wishes, Eike
