Re: scratches
This message is from: Kay Barnhart jb...@sleepyeyetel.net Hi Bonnie, MTG works both well on scratches and rain rot. I have fjords and one gyspy so I really have to watch him for scratches. Happy Trails Jim Kay Barnhart jb...@sleepyeyetel.net 507-843- - Original Message - From: bbd...@aol.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:07 PM Subject: scratches This message is from: bbd...@aol.com Hello: I just learned something that was probably too obvious, but never dawned on me before today. I body-clipped my two boys a couple of days ago..still very hot and humid here in Florida. I must have been daydreaming and zipped up Thor's leg with the clippers...ok, one leg clean of hair and so the other three had to be fully clipped. He looked beautiful! They were out in the rain this morning and when I brought them in, I noticed Thor's pasterns had a bit of crudmild scratches for he first time in his life. When the farrier showed up to trim them this afternoon, he explained how the rain runs off the feathers behind the fetlockpreventing water from reaching the heels and sensitive skin behind the pasterns. In my days as a working student in England, we always left the hair on the legs for protectionmakes too much sense! I will never clip legs ever again! Thank you, Clint, as I spent the morning wondering what I did to cause my beloved horse's problem. I did use Desitin and I'm thankful that Fjord hair grows back so quickly! Isn't nature perfect? Has anyone ever dealt with scratches on a clipped or hairy-fetlocked Fjord? Any ideas for prevention until the hair grows back? Kind regards: Bonnie in Florida Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: scratches
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com I never had any problems but try not to clip their legs close and except for the very old mare I have now, did not clip my other two fjords in the summer. In my experience, it seems that compared to other horses, fjords are less likely to get skin problems with their legs I assumed because of the thickness of the hair and skin. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but their skin is thicker than other horses which you can tell when you try to give them an injection. You really have to be committed to get the needle quickly through the skin of a fjord. Robin in very rainy SW florida --- On Tue, 8/10/10, bbd...@aol.com bbd...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone ever dealt with scratches on a clipped or hairy-fetlocked Fjord? Any ideas for prevention until the hair grows back? Kind regards: Bonnie in Florida Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: scratches
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what is pigeon fever? Jean Gayle Author The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: scratches , what NOT to do and some what to dos
This message is from: Joanna Crell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I almost fell out of my chair when someone mentioned their friends promoting used motor oil on scratches. Used motor oil is a petroleum, read gasoline cousin, and is poisonous. I well remember when folks would use oil and or axle grease on hooves as a treatment, not so smart. Not only did it dry the hooves out to the cracking stage but was also causing who knows what kind of problems elsewhere. When we painted that gunk on stall boards to preserve them, fence post, ground ends maybe but the rails our horses chewed? yuck. Back then, stuff happened and we knew lots les!. Used motor oil is a Hazardous Material, and even the disposal of if it is a big deal, for all of of us who have had to burn brush and have the dubious distinction of having had a tire at the center, the world needs our awareness that we can't do toxic things. Everyone knows that 'sploded tires make excellent planters any way. Now for the good ideas on scratches, mud fever,scurf, or grease heel (I wonder now about that name!) Desitan is great.This is true. Especially looks good on grey or white horses, almost restoring their looks immediately !Not so gorgeous on darker horses but worth the healing power. We found it to be amazing on the hip of a vaulting horse that had gotten really banged up in the trailer. It is the most soothing substance, and a fantastic overnight helper on acne ! Maybe the zinc, maybe the cod-liver oil but definitely helps. there is a lot of softening and serum ooze though, still be careful with anything that is taking days to treat. nothing is as bad as the blood poisoning or Lyphangitis that can happen when simple leg stuff goes wrong. Melalucca the element in tea tree oil is a very preferred washing treatment for many folks. Scrubbing the scabs and sebacious tissue away gently is recommended. I personally have gone after body scurf, leg crud and mane and tail problems with Betadine and Dr Bronners Hemp Tea tree castile shampoo.and a comb, following up with a good animal shampoo with some pyretherin to prevent the bugs. My friends who are more cavalier than I use Listerine on tails with sweet itch to great results but after a mouthful of that I can't imagine how hard the kick would be from a horse with a stinging butt. Clydesdales are the most susceptible horses I know to horrible leg skin problems, under those feathers, we gave our good friend our Grooma rake to help keep things maged on her big boy, she had had huge vet work done on the cysts and lumps that had developed on him while he was neglected prior to her ownership. It took over a year to get his legs healthy, wow. MY favorite dark coloured healing goop in the world is Icthamol. it is inexpensive and while it too is messy , it draws and heals what ails . I am not above slathering it on a hoof with thrush or an abcess and making a poultice. ( after an epsom salt soak) stay on a problem and you can usually fix it, let it go and The sugar pack of a wound has worked for us but thank god we haven't had to do that often. My horses seem to thrive and we make sure to touch each one daily. My neighbors and friends aren't always so lucky so we are always available to help. Its good to have a forum online to share our questions and experiences, I have learned a lot here on this list even when I am tired of the internet I check in on this! It always picks up my spirits hearing good news and friendly communication. Thanks, Joanna, after a sad week in Maine where two lovely human spirits have passed, both horse lovers
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This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] When my son's quarter horse gelding came home from training he had scratches (good old white socks!) and after trying a number of things the combination of Novalsan and Desitin mixed together into a paste and applied daily worked. Taffy Mercer
Re: scratches
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks DeeAnna for the idea. If you are right then the furason is not good. However it does not seem to be working anyway so I am going to try the wait and see route as it does not seem to bother him. I will wash it and dry well if he will allow!! I stand him with his rump to the barn wall so when he kicks back he hits the wall and he then stands more obediently. Our confusion over this situation is the same as the Vets so maybe letting things resolve themselves is the best way. If it worsens then I will use some of the suggested ointments. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: scratches
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Have you considered that the problem with your horse's foot is (to quote someone else's words) a phyto-photo-dermatitis? (In normal words, a non-allergic chemical burn that occurs when sunlight reacts with certain plant juices after they get on the skin). Wild parsnip (Pastinaca sativa) is one (midwestern?) plant that can cause such burns, which are most severe in humans when the juice gets on areas of lightly pigmented skin that have little hair. It took several weeks for my arms to recover from ugly wild parsnip burns I received last summer when working out in bright sunlight in an overgrown field filled with the stuff. (I didn't know what I was getting into at the time or I would have worn long sleeves and avoided the stuff like the plague!) Result of wild parsnip exposure in humans: day after exposure to plant juice: exposed area will be sore as if scalded, later: blisters, red weals that look like infected scratches, long healing time. Treatment in humans: Wash thoroughly after exposure to remove juice from skin. Don't break blisters to prevent secondary infection. Keep broken blisters dry and protected to minimize possibility of secondary infection. Use cortisone based ointment or systemic cortisone medication if necessary. Your comment that it's only on that one white foot joggled my memory about this. DeeAnna
Re: Scratches
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, I have had scratches flare-ups in the driest part of summer - I really think it has something to do w/ dew on the grass, not just moisture in the soil. K Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Scratches
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, If it only occurs on his white pastern maybe it is a reaction to sun...You have had some sunny days lately, havn't you? Has he been out in clover, with the dew on it? Just some thoughts. Jean in still rainy Fairbanks, Alaska, (the Fair is still going on) but I much prefer rain to SMOKE! Betsy thanks for the encouragement. Now I wonder if this is scratches as you and Karen are talking wet and mud and we are dry and clay. I use rubber mats in the stalls on top of screenings, crushed rock residue. The other horses have never had this and it always occurs on his white pastern only. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betsy thanks for the encouragement. Now I wonder if this is scratches as you and Karen are talking wet and mud and we are dry and clay. I use rubber mats in the stalls on top of screenings, crushed rock residue. The other horses have never had this and it always occurs on his white pastern only. I am going to try the Prep H if I can get near him. The Furason is not doing much. Happen to have a can of sauerkraut and just might try that but from a distance. He is getting hoof shy. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen, maybe this is not scratches? Here it is dry and sometimes sunny. No mud, altho that is how he first got the fungal mess years ago. They left him standing in pastern deep slime. This has the appearance of gravel and is weepy. Vet said it might be auto-immune thing or fungal. He really hates the DMSO I put on the swollen front injury. I would guess I will not get near him tomorrow. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Patryjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] freeze and thaw, freeze and thaw, constant mud. Old barn, new stalls, old clay stall floors. In January both horses developed terrible scratches on all four (8) pasterns.Awfull to treat when it was so cold and impossible to keep clean. ...I hope I never have to treat scratches again...have also been told by numerous horse folks that sauerkraut juice works too...I would think it would sting, but some swear by it! Betsy in stormy, buggy, muggy Michigan where we are cleaning up downed trees from yesterdays gales and hail...Lots of free firewood! Betsy, I too have experienced the heartbreak of scratches w/ one horse (thank god only 2 legs affected) in the middle of winter. I did bring my horse in from the muck for several days as I bandaged his legs w/ my concoction for scratches. We have 16x16 rubber matted stalls w/runs. Never thougt about the scratches correlation as regards dirt in stalls (we have a DG base), only in the pasture. BTW, sauerkraut was one of the many remedies offered up to me at the time...didn't try it as I really wanted to try the full-on chemical warfare w/ this nasty stuff on his legs. Swollen, cracking, bleeding, poor boy! Karen Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Scratches (Herd guarding, Corgies and Vallhunds)
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what is a Swedish Valhund? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Scratches (Herd guarding, Corgies and Vallhunds)
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:07 PM 08/10/2000 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what is a Swedish Valhund? I guess they're comparable to a Corgi in some way.. rode around on Viking ships back when.. (Reinbowend first mentioned them) They kind of look like short German Shepherds. Cost two arms and a leg! Ruthie http://www.swedishvallhund.com
Re: Scratches (Herd guarding, Corgies and Vallhunds)
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean - sorry to hear that you had to give up on your Corgie rescue. Thanks for the whole story. Knew there was more to it. I was given a rescue Cardigan Corgie last year, who ended up being a perfect companion for my father. We brought him to Libby last year, where he met up with his new parents. Couldn't have been a better match, and do they dote on him! Hope the same for the guy you had to give up. Ruthie, I also, have been itching for a Swedish Vallhund. I keep checking the websites and have registered as a rescue home, but no luck so far. Our stallion displayed some guarding behavior a couple of months ago when a ballonist was heading our way. He saw and heard the balloon approaching, ran towards it as much as possible and was clearly distressed that he couldn't get his mares (because they were on the other side of the fence) to notice it. There was a definate difference from his behavior as opposed to a horse that was simply spooking at the thing. Interestingly, the only other horse who really noticed it was an Arabian mare. She tried to get the other horses to notice it also but they were too busy grazing. We have a Morgan gelding who used to chase any coyote who tried to cross his pasture. Beware the dogs that get in his way! Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: scratches
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:45 PM 08/09/2000 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:59 PM 8/9/00 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some will disagree with me I suppose, but personally, I think you should go with the puppy idea.. after all, you would have kept that adult had it been well adjusted, and there's always someone who will take in a loving well-behaved dog, should something prevent your caring for it. I guess I have to be one of them Ruthie. There just isn't always someone waiting to take that dog. That is why there are literally thousands of dogs and cats killed every day by the shelters in the country. Getting that puppy is just what keeps all of the puppy mills in business also. Soapbox Mode Off Mike Come now Mike, that's a mighty big leap from a quality dog to a puppy mill pumping undesirable dogs into pounds for destruction. It's been my observation that well adjusted and disciplined purebreds can always find a home, but I guess I should add, here in the sticks. I doubt that I do fully grasp the big picture of homeless animals, too heartbreaking to think about, but I fail to see how Jean's selection of a puppy instead of a maladjusted adult would matter that much. If it turned out she had to give the grown up pup away it would at least be a chicken lover! =))) And what guarantee does any one of us have that we will be here tomorrow to care for our beloved pets, irregardless of our age! But there are always other kindhearted pet-loving folk who will take in a pet to love if we just look for them! Ask a friend before that time comes to find a good home for your pet should anything happen. My Mother passed away this past spring and her dearest wish was for her little angel Yorkie to find a good home. Why, I almost had to hold interviews to see who would be the lucky recipient! I'm thrilled to report he found a wonderfully perfect home! Don't hold back on loving puppies, GO FOR IT Jean! =))) Ruthie, nw mt
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This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:59 PM 8/9/00 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some will disagree with me I suppose, but personally, I think you should go with the puppy idea.. after all, you would have kept that adult had it been well adjusted, and there's always someone who will take in a loving well-behaved dog, should something prevent your caring for it. I guess I have to be one of them Ruthie. There just isn't always someone waiting to take that dog. That is why there are literally thousands of dogs and cats killed every day by the shelters in the country. Getting that puppy is just what keeps all of the puppy mills in business also. Soapbox Mode Off Mike
Re: Scratches
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela, as a follow up to the bizzare scratches remedy I posted yesterday,(very non-herbal :]), and as a good after-care wound ointment, I really like a product called Trainer's Formula. Has Emu oil listed as one of the main ingedients. It smells really odd, and will last all day on your hands unless you use gloves. I had a horse that got really tangeled up in barb wire out on the trail, and had some horrific wounds. After the the about 8 days of regular cleaning and bandaging in standing wraps, the wounds were scabbing nicely and no longer oozing and draining. I applied this stuff 2x day. He almost looks as good as new, no hair loss, just some raised welts from the scarring. Another herbal wound remedy I like to use is calendula oil or gel. I make my own topical gels of calendula and arnica by getting generic lubricating jelly and mixing in a few drops of tincture. Can also be put in a small spray bottle w/ distilled water. BTW, there is an ointment that has a steroid in it, Panalog, that also works very well on scratches, but I was told to only use it with DMSO. Karen in Carson City,NV Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:03 AM 08/09/2000 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruthie, I know where you are coming from re Corgis as this was my fourth. cut It was not an easy decision and I feel quite guilty over having to do it. It would have been smarter of me to have purchased a puppy but at seventy five I did not think it would have been fair if something happened to me. Jean JEAN, THAT WAS VERY NICE of you to relate the rest of the story for my benefit.. I feel bad now to have piqued your feeling of guilt with my teasing. I don't doubt for a minute you did your very best! I guess there's killer types in every breed and I agree, he had to go.. Maybe he'll end up an only pet in a good home. I've never had a Corgi (still pining for the Swedish Vallhund) but always thought they looked very sweet. Some will disagree with me I suppose, but personally, I think you should go with the puppy idea.. after all, you would have kept that adult had it been well adjusted, and there's always someone who will take in a loving well-behaved dog, should something prevent your caring for it. Go for it! On a different subject, we note that our stallion, A2Z Thorson, is a gallant leader over his herd (I'd better get the Fjords into this conservation) and has often displayed protective behavior on their behalf. If a wild animal comes through he alertly runs to the front and assesses the situation, deciding whether to cut and run! =) But I do wonder if they have been know to defend? Last evening when Gene herded the day crew into the barnyard (Thorson and his family) he was amazed when Thorson suddendly whipped around and ran in the opposite direction! Gene was astounded, this was totally unlike him, but then he sees two of his Fjord family that had been overlooked, dragging up the rear at a distance, and Thorson had to usher them in. So sweet! Has anyone ever heard of a stallion physically warding off danger? Ruthie, nw mt
Re: scratches
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a bunch Pam for helping. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruthie, I know where you are coming from re Corgis as this was my fourth. I spent over $500 just on shots and neutering which was torture as he tore out his stitches and we had to eventually put a cast on his neck to keep him from ripping out the steel! He was at the Vets over six days besides two weeks of nursing here. The rescuers are a group dedicated to Corgis and my remaining dog Rue came from them. I did not give up easily on this boy and cried alot when I gave him up yesterday. I was told by the owners that he got along fine with chickens, ducks, and cats. He salivated when he saw my cat Lucy and would not take his eyes off her. I thought we had that licked when she attacked him. Then he attacked the ducks and I rescued them altho he continued to shadow them. He had paid no attention to the chickens and I thought we were now in the final stages of acclimating when he suddenly grabbed my best hen, naturally, and no shouts of no, no nor pulling at him would stop him until she was dead. He is not the soft appearing Corgi but has hard eyes and may have some terrier in him. I felt I could not trust him after that. As I often have meetings all day I would now have to tie him up. Plus chicken killers, I raise a special breed of banties, are rarely cured without sever punishment. You must know that you can not punish a Corgi without almost immediately getting a shy dog. One strike with the hand which is all I had available with the chicken killing forever marks that hand as a weapon. It was not an easy decision and I feel quite guilty over having to do it. It would have been smarter of me to have purchased a puppy but at seventy five I did not think it would have been fair if something happened to me. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: scratches
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Steve for the help re scratches. Thankfully we are dry and warm right now. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Scratches
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela, as a follow up to the bizzare scratches remedy I posted yesterday,(very non-herbal :]), and as a good after-care wound ointment, I really like a product called Trainer's Formula. Has Emu oil listed as one of the main ingedients. It smells really odd, and will last all day on your hands unless you use gloves. I had a horse that got really tangeled up in barb wire out on the trail, and had some horrific wounds. After the the about 8 days of regular cleaning and bandaging in standing wraps the wounds were scabbing nicely and no longer oozing and draining. I applied this stuff 2x day. He almost looks as good as new, no hair loss, just some raised welts from the scarring. Another herbal wound remedy I like to use is calendula oil or gel. I make my own topical gels of calendula and arnica by getting generic lubricating jelly and mixing in a few drops of tincture. Can also be put in a small spray bottle w/ distilled water. There is an ointment that has a steroid in it, Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Scratches
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a response I got back from the Alternative Therapy board. Hope this gives you some natural remedy ideas. I was going to recommend strictly goldenseal, but wanted to wait till I heard from them. There's a wonderful all-natural wound cream that can be found at most any Natural stores called SuperLysine-Plus. It contains goldenseal, vitamins, L-lysine, echinancea, and a host of other ingredients. I call it the all-natural Neosporin. G Works great. Another thing that works super on scratches is Emu Oil. Emu oil is an emuliant so can use the two together, yet the Emu oil works super by itself. Then of course there is Vitamin E.
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This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:43 PM 08/08/2000 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] (plus today had to take my new Corgi to the Rescue people as last night he maliciously killed one of my chickens and nothing could stop him until it was dead quiet) Jean Hi Jean, so, he doesn't like chickens.. ! (tell me the Rescue people are really just that, rescuers? or is that an innocuous expression for the dog pound?)..didn't someone on the list describe chickens as rats with feathers in the past year? Are you saying you've chosen to champion a feathered rat over man's best friend? Tell me the little guy's okay, Corgis are so cute! Maybe with psychotherapy he'll reform? = Ruthie
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Scratches has been discussed a great deal on an equine vet list I'm on. About a 100 different remedies were given, which means there is probably a 100 different causes. Bacteria, fungus, bacteria fungus, allergy, reaction to sunlight (on white legs), parasites, etc., etc. The best treatment I've found is using an antiseptic ointment with a steroid in it. I'm sure your vet can help you with this. Keeping the foot clean and dry helps a lot too. Good luck, Steve White Waterloo, NE
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This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean' it ain't herbal, but I use a remedy of equal parts of neosporin, DMSO, and the stuff (myoconzidole?) used for feminine itching. Clean up the affected area w/ a mild Betadine scrub blot dry really well, clip any offending hair that is straying into sensitive area, slather on the mix using rubber gloves, then wrap plastic wrap over it, and cover that with vet wrap. I go one step further and duct tape the top and bottom securly, and I leave this on for 2-3 days. Works! I am sure the vets must think I am crazy, but I have a Trakehner w/ 4 white socks that is in pasture year 'round, and he gets this horrible stuff at least once a year. I have used all sorts of remedies, but this one takes the cake. Karen Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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This message is from: Patty Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCHREINERS WORKS GREAT FOR SCRATCHES
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, I don't know much about herbal remedies for scratches, but just put the question out to the America Online Alternative Therapy Board. They cover lots of good information, and I'm sure somebody will have some good information soon for me to pass on to you. Pamela
