Re: trailering company
This message is from: Jon Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could try Merecedez transport at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if they are still in business, but I highly recommend them if they are. They transported our mare down to Kentucky Horse Park and were extremely good to work with. Mary Ofjord North Coast Fjords At 11:41 AM 5/4/2007, you wrote: This message is from: Mary Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any recommendations for a company to transport a fjord from Iowa to New Hampshire in the middle of May? Also any companies not to use? Mary Anne The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: trailering
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like there's an even divide between people saying never drop the butt bar while your horse is still tied and people saying drop the butt bar, untie your horse and then go back and catch the rope on the way out. Being new to trailering, y'all are making my head spin!! Timely issue though since I am just trying to get this figured out on how to do it by myself without a partner helping. It actually had not occurred to me to back him out from outside the trailer - I am always in the trailer and backing him out. I think I'll give that a go this weekend. Kate and Joe (basically the best pony ever)
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This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would think this would be dependant on your particular horse...wouldn't you? or if you have an extra pair of helping hands or by yourself. I am coming into the discussion late; when we trailer via slant, we always backed the horses out, no problem whether it was dirt or pavement..went inside and got them walked them outbut one horse I had, wasn't going to go for that, he wanted out front ways, so instead of getting into a fight with him about it and him getting hurt, he came out just fine, all the time. when we trailered in a straight load, there were always two of usone behind to do the butt bar while the other was untying. I'd have to pull on Gustav's tail sometimes to get him moving out since when he was untied he start eating the food on the floor! LOL Reena - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: trailering This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like there's an even divide between people saying never drop the butt bar while your horse is still tied and people saying drop the butt bar, untie your horse and then go back and catch the rope on the way out. Being new to trailering, y'all are making my head spin!! Timely issue though since I am just trying to get this figured out on how to do it by myself without a partner helping. It actually had not occurred to me to back him out from outside the trailer - I am always in the trailer and backing him out. I think I'll give that a go this weekend. Kate and Joe (basically the best pony ever)
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This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] But be very careful about opening the back with the lead rope still tied in a trailer where a horse could back out far enough to get a foot on the ground and then be stopped by the rope. I have a horse who has some problems with pulling back. He was accustomed (before I bought him) to being released in front before the butt bar on a straight load trailer was removed. He will pull back, even in a stock trailer, if you open the door without releasing him. We have solved the problem with a trailer with openable windows and dividers. We release head, open back door, then open divider and walk in to get the lead rope (which is draped over the horse's back) Never drop the butt bar on a straight load with horse tied. Gail This message is from: Janice Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Mark, I get in the trailer, attach a lead rope, if they have been tied, release the quick release tie that held them in the trailer, and back them slowly out. Again, I agree with Karen..preparation and practice at home is the key.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have limited experience with trailering, and also have the world's smallest trailer, i think. it's a 2 horse straight load, an old WW model. what i have learned to do with oz and unloading him is this: the few times i have taken him any place, i most likely have had to unload him alone at home. he is tied in the trailer to keep him facing foward, because even though he's chubby, he can somehow worm his way around to face the back of the trailer. what i will do is take a long, heavy lung rope and attach it to his halter by going through the side door (not getting into the trailer, just reaching in). then i detach the tie in the trailer, while keep enough pressure on the long rope to keep his head forward. then, while keep the long rope taut, i can walk to the back of the trailer and open the gate. he will generally back himself out, and i can control the pace with the long rope. then he can just pull it out with him, and i will have a regular lead rope to clip on when he gets out. seems to work for me. i am wondering what gas prices will do to attendance at events where we have to trailer our horses? laurie, luxuriating at physical therapy daily, and oz, luxuriating at the fat farm..
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This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] No way am I ever getting in a trailer with a horse!! I have trained mine from almost zero up to enter the two stall side by side trailer on their own (food or apples on the shelf) and then I reach through the head door and hook them to the tie rope. They have a halter on of course and the lead rope is over their back So when I reach the destination I then release the tie down through the head door and they automatically back out, unless there is some food left, and I catch the lead rope as they exit. Have never missed that catch either. Horses will almost always stop to see where they are. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
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This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I always did get in the trailer with my own horses, but was trying to see what other people did, as there are a couple different trains of thought I know on every aspect of training. Many of them seem to work so there probably isn't necessarily any right or wrong. I was just going thru this little issue in trying to train them the way someone more experienced does it, verses the way I always have. It always seemed safe to me, but then I guess anything can happen when your at a strage place with other vehicles and events going on around the trailer that could possibly startle any horse. I've hauled my horses many places and over good distances without any issues going into the trailer. There is a necesity on long hauls, to go into the trailer, as there is always chaff, or poop or whatever in the water bucket and such. On the big trailer I close the 2 gates and usually have 1 or 2 horses in each of 3 8x7 stall areas, then the small trailer I close the middle gate and they have 2- 7x8 areas to be in when traveling. The only time I have the whole backend wide open is when they are being loaded or unloaded. So it's not really like they can practice their 100 yard dash in there when traveling. They usually rest their rump or side against the trailer when traveling so aren't just standing in the middle trying to balance. It is also nice for the horses to be able to do things different ways in case there ever comes a need for an alternate plan. Such as someone else unloading my horses or something. A few years ago we had more issues with loading horses as we didn't really take them anywhere, so they weren't used to it. Maybe the first time they were ever trailered was when someone came to buy one. But now, the more we go places with them the more comfortable they and we get with transporting. I guess the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm really not trying to fix the way I do it, just trying to train them an alternate way of doing something they already do well. You see Karen, some of the ground work Outside the trailer, is getting them loaded and unloaded with Paralli. He has you stand outside with the lead rope and the horse should go in and out by themselves pretty much on your que. If you have to get into the trailer to push them from the front to back them out, this doesn't pass the mustard with Paralli, you don't pass that part of the program, and your horse isn't trained well enough. You have to be able to get your horse to back out without you yourself getting into the trailer. This of course isn't the way I have always done it, which is why I was wondering if others had any experience with this type of loading and unloading with a larger stock style trailer. Mark Subject: RE: trailering This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark, if you can't get into the trailer with your *own* horses, then it's time for more groundwork outside of the trailer, so that the horse learns to respect your space, and so that you become more comfortable handling them. If you are unsure of just how to go about it, perhaps a local trainer can assist you? It doesn't take Parelli to do this, just common sense. Did you read my previous post? Did you understand it? I tried to go step by step theu the whole process, but idf you felt it was unsafe to do, please understand i wouldn't have posted it for a second if I had thought it was. If something wasn't understood let me know and i can elaborate. The main point I wish to make in regard to trailer training, or any groundwork is that it takes focus consistancy, and it takes TIME. No magic. Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees
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This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the reasons I brought up the subject is because with the stock type trailer when you unload the horse backwards, you really have to get into the trailer with the horse. This is because with a lead rope on the horse unless you have a rope connected to both sides the horse tends to want to turn around and come head first. So if you back your horses out, are you getting into the trailer and backing the horse out from the horses head? With a stall type 2 horse trailer this isn't a problem, as the horse has no width to turn around, and you can back them out without getting into the trailer. Just curious as to weather you actually get into the trailer when you back them out. We were trying to train them Parelli and they have you back them out without going into the trailer yourself. They teach the owner to avoid getting into the trailer with the horse if at all possible and training the horse on how to load walking in forward but unload backing out. Of course they have big fancy expensive trailers, probably mostly slant load in their shows, which we do not have. I would think at some point you would have to get into the trailer to attach the lead rope and string the lead rope out the back. I guess every situation is a little different, as far as 2 horse trailers, vs. stock, vs. slant load and a person would just have to assess the situation and do what they think is safe in their situation and with their horse. I haven't had the issue with the horses skinning the backs of their legs, as we stop the horses before they walk off, they usually sorta look down and assess the situation some before they walk off. Mark Skeels This message is from: Janice Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have done quite a bit of long-haul trailering with both stock trailers and slant stall trailers. When trailering with the stock trailer, we do just what Karen McCarthy does. Start with them tied and then turn them loose if they are riding quietly. They almost always turn and face the rear and rarely move around at all. As far as backing out versus coming out face first...I have seen several bad situations in which horses got their hind legs skinned up by coming out face first. A good ol' broke horse might be just fine, but a young horse or skittish horse can come out too quickly when allowed to come out face first. Backing them out leaves me in control of the process. Not too fast, one step at a time is a good lesson in handling in general, and in my opinion the safest way to unload horses in most trailering situations. Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords Valley, Nebraska
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This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark...no problem with the leadsand the parelli are probably taught to stand and stay anyway:) Leads can be attached through the windows and plopped across their backs. I get in the trailer with my guys...all are good and only once in awhile I get a little smooshed because I put myself in a tight spotI mean, a fjord body just cannot get smaller like THAT!! So far so goodI teach to back out even if they can turn around.good training for them and they go nice and slowLJBL in WI On 4/26/06 4:17 PM, Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the reasons I brought up the subject is because with the stock type trailer when you unload the horse backwards, you really have to get into the trailer with the horse. This is because with a lead rope on the horse unless you have a rope connected to both sides the horse tends to want to turn around and come head first. So if you back your horses out, are you getting into the trailer and backing the horse out from the horses head? With a stall type 2 horse trailer this isn't a problem, as the horse has no width to turn around, and you can back them out without getting into the trailer. Just curious as to weather you actually get into the trailer when you back them out. We were trying to train them Parelli and they have you back them out without going into the trailer yourself. They teach the owner to avoid getting into the trailer with the horse if at all possible and training the horse on how to load walking in forward but unload backing out. Of course they have big fancy expensive trailers, probably mostly slant load in their shows, which we do not have. I would think at some point you would have to get into the trailer to attach the lead rope and string the lead rope out the back. I guess every situation is a little different, as far as 2 horse trailers, vs. stock, vs. slant load and a person would just have to assess the situation and do what they think is safe in their situation and with their horse. I haven't had the issue with the horses skinning the backs of their legs, as we stop the horses before they walk off, they usually sorta look down and assess the situation some before they walk off. Mark Skeels This message is from: Janice Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have done quite a bit of long-haul trailering with both stock trailers and slant stall trailers. When trailering with the stock trailer, we do just what Karen McCarthy does. Start with them tied and then turn them loose if they are riding quietly. They almost always turn and face the rear and rarely move around at all. As far as backing out versus coming out face first...I have seen several bad situations in which horses got their hind legs skinned up by coming out face first. A good ol' broke horse might be just fine, but a young horse or skittish horse can come out too quickly when allowed to come out face first. Backing them out leaves me in control of the process. Not too fast, one step at a time is a good lesson in handling in general, and in my opinion the safest way to unload horses in most trailering situations. Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords Valley, Nebraska
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This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I trained my horses to back out of the trailer when the halter rope was released. Only problem was getting back there fast enough to grab the halter rope as they come out. I have seen some pretty bad things happen with the person in the stall trailer. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
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This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark, if you can't get into the trailer with your *own* horses, then it's time for more groundwork outside of the trailer, so that the horse learns to respect your space, and so that you become more comfortable handling them. If you are unsure of just how to go about it, perhaps a local trainer can assist you? It doesn't take Parelli to do this, just common sense. Did you read my previous post? Did you understand it? I tried to go step by step theu the whole process, but idf you felt it was unsafe to do, please understand i wouldn't have posted it for a second if I had thought it was. If something wasn't understood let me know and i can elaborate. The main point I wish to make in regard to trailer training, or any groundwork is that it takes focus consistancy, and it takes TIME. No magic. Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: trailering Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:17:11 -0500 This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the reasons I brought up the subject is because with the stock type trailer when you unload the horse backwards, you really have to get into the trailer with the horse. This is because with a lead rope on the horse unless you have a rope connected to both sides the horse tends to want to turn around and come head first. So if you back your horses out, are you getting into the trailer and backing the horse out from the horses head? With a stall type 2 horse trailer this isn't a problem, as the horse has no width to turn around, and you can back them out without getting into the trailer. Just curious as to weather you actually get into the trailer when you back them out. We were trying to train them Parelli and they have you back them out without going into the trailer yourself. They teach the owner to avoid getting into the trailer with the horse if at all possible and training the horse on how to load walking in forward but unload backing out. Of course they have big fancy expensive trailers, probably mostly slant load in their shows, which we do not have. I would think at some point you would have to get into the trailer to attach the lead rope and string the lead rope out the back. I guess every situation is a little different, as far as 2 horse trailers, vs. stock, vs. slant load and a person would just have to assess the situation and do what they think is safe in their situation and with their horse. I haven't had the issue with the horses skinning the backs of their legs, as we stop the horses before they walk off, they usually sorta look down and assess the situation some before they walk off. Mark Skeels This message is from: Janice Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have done quite a bit of long-haul trailering with both stock trailers and slant stall trailers. When trailering with the stock trailer, we do just what Karen McCarthy does. Start with them tied and then turn them loose if they are riding quietly. They almost always turn and face the rear and rarely move around at all. As far as backing out versus coming out face first...I have seen several bad situations in which horses got their hind legs skinned up by coming out face first. A good ol' broke horse might be just fine, but a young horse or skittish horse can come out too quickly when allowed to come out face first. Backing them out leaves me in control of the process. Not too fast, one step at a time is a good lesson in handling in general, and in my opinion the safest way to unload horses in most trailering situations. Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords Valley, Nebraska
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This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I trailered a young Arab from Oregon to CA...about nine hours total. I am not quite sure what happened to him, but he certainly looked like he might eventually go down in the trailer. He was sweated up and the muscles on top of his butt were quivering, as though they were severely fatigued. The road was straight and the trailer had a cushy ride. I think he was just tensing up all the time and wearing himself out. He seemed fine as soon as we let him out. Maybe something similar happened to the mare. =This is a possibility. Much longer ride for the very old mare. Judy Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===Oops. Hit a wrong button,... will try again. This message is from: Janet McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have hauled our horses on trips that required 20+ hours of driving. It is my preference to unload and rest the horses just before entering the mountains, as the constant up/down and turning requires a lot of muscle in any horse and has to be tiring. I am not possitive, but I think there are also laws about how long any animal can be held in a trailer without unloading for rest. I believe the law may require unloading after every 24 hours of travel. =I may have over-reacted to the whole scenerio. Accidents will happen. However, I just have very bad vibes regarding the incident. Supposedly these people unload the horses and walk them every 5 hours. I don't see how that was possible, given the fact that one guy was apparently a driver, period. Unless they had just picked them up, there was a mare and foul that had to be taken out before they could get to the other horses. We have found out that many rodeo grounds and fair grounds as well as state/national forest areas will allow you to unload and camp for the night if the grounds are not in use at that time. ==They say they take them out and walk them, even at a rest area. I really question that, too. IMHO, it doesn't sound safe, either. We always call ahead for permission (use the chamber of commerce for the town you will be near), and pay some 'rent' to the club, even if none is asked for, and of course, clean up. It is really a good thing for the horses to let them get out and stretch, roll, and lie down if they wish. The rest also assures that -we- do a better job driving in the mountains. ===Well, Janet, it certainly sounds like you folks have all the angles very well covered. Can I recommend you to my friend should she want to move her horse again? :-) Seriously, that sounds great. Judy
Re: trailering horses
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm very sorry to hear about your horrible experience. We have hauled our horses on trips that required 20+ hours of driving. It is my preference to unload and rest the horses just before entering the mountains, as the constant up/down and turning requires a lot of muscle in any horse and has to be tiring. I am not possitive, but I think there are also laws about how long any animal can be held in a trailer without unloading for rest. I believe the law may require unloading after every 24 hours of travel. We have found out that many rodeo grounds and fair grounds as well as state/national forest areas will allow you to unload and camp for the night if the grounds are not in use at that time. We always call ahead for permission (use the chamber of commerce for the town you will be near), and pay some 'rent' to the club, even if none is asked for, and of course, clean up. It is really a good thing for the horses to let them get out and stretch, roll, and lie down if they wish. The rest also assures that -we- do a better job driving in the mountains. Janet
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This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] I trailered a young Arab from Oregon to CA...about nine hours total. I am not quite sure what happened to him, but he certainly looked like he might eventually go down in the trailer. He was sweated up and the muscles on top of his butt were quivering, as though they were severely fatigued. The road was straight and the trailer had a cushy ride. I think he was just tensing up all the time and wearing himself out. He seemed fine as soon as we let him out. Maybe something similar happened to the mare. This horse is a 28 year old T/B mare. No known reason why she went bonkers, but the owner assumes it was because she stood in the straight stall of the trailer too long, (3 days, instead of 2), and her arthritis hurt so bad she couldn't take it any longer. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Laura.I have Grey's also...as a matter of fact,my favorite Congo died
a few days before my mare aborted a colt{not a good weekend}Sinbad was a
pal and boy could he TALK!!! Such smart birds..I was sure I was
going to have to will him to one of my kids 'cause they live so
longbut his presence will live onhe's going to get
stuffed!!{right now he's in the freezer awaiting the taxidermist}
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To: Fjord Horse List fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Trailering Question
Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2001, 4:16 PM
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Hi Everyone,
I sure have enjoyed the discussions lately :-)
Our new filly - LFF Valena - Flotren's filly :-) is coming from outside of
Buffalo, NY to our place outside of Ottawa, Ontario tomorrow (weather
permitting). It will be an 8 to 10 hour trip for her - poor little thing. I
was wondering if we should feed her a soupy bran mash on her arrival? Or her
normal dry oats? Or skip the dinner all together? Its such a long trip for a
little foal I want to make sure she's comfortable on her arrival.
To join in quickly with the age discussion... I'm 38, my husband Carm is
46, we have 4 fjord horses, 2 dogs (was 3 till Tuesday morning - our old
girl died in her sleep - I can't really believe that she's gone - we will
miss her alot), 1 cat, and we breed parrots - we have one African Grey Congo
as a pet, and 10 others paired up (African Grey Congos, Blue Gold Macaws,
and Eclectus). Both my husband and I work way too many hours in the
high-tech industry. I live for the minutes in the barn :-)
Laura
From Russell, Ontario - just outside Ottawa, Canada's Capital
Re: Trailering Do's and Don'ts and Luisa's Death ..
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl, This is what you sent when Luisa died. It was very much appreciated. I saved all the messages...with the intent of replying to allbut life goes on and is crazy. My office floor is completely littered, and the desk between one and six inches high (avg depth about 2.5 inches). And taxes to do. Talk more laterI'm up late...have to work with workman on the perimeter fence tomorrow am...then on road at 2pm to Modoc. That is ONE NICE FILLY you have. Gail At 05:47 PM 9/7/2000 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK Gail .. that did it. I didn't send any messages of condolence when I read the first few messages telling of Luisa's tragic death -- although they certainly hit home. But I read this last, very thoughtful note and finished in tears. There could be no more clear depiction of Luisa's suffering and yours. You deserve big hugs from all of us, many who may have made the same mistakes and whose mistakes you now may have prevented. Good for you, to be big enough to publicly acknowledge those mistakes .. you are to be forgiven for whatever you did, unwittingly, just make sure you forgive yourself. You obviously cared deeply for your horse and I'm sure all of us can imagine what you felt in watching your horse suffer through those last terrible hours. I am SO sorry. Thank you for sharing these very hard earned lessons with us. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trailering and mares
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise re free in the trailer What happens if you slam on the brakes? Free in a two horse trailer still has the horse close to a contact point. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores -Original Message- From: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: trailering and mares This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] hey listers, i am back from our russia trip and i kissed american soil when we landed!! what a place..but that is another story! i have a trailering question for you all. i have a 3 horse trailer. i will be hauling one of my boys to a week long horsetraining seminar in a couple of weeks. should i put him in the slot closest to the truck as usual or let him have the whole trailer, untied, as one would haul in a stock trailer? he has never been free to use the whole space before. what did you think? another question about mares. my mare cycled and was in heat while we were gone. she is still acting nasty and grouchy toward the boys and my goats. she usually loves grooming and today she acted like she could take it or leave it. she has no fever, eats and drinks and was not bred. she is my first mare. is her attitude normal? i feel sorry for the rest of the barn inhabitants, as she is very quick to nip when before she is usually very mellow. she even grabbed one of the goats today by his tail and lifted him off his rear feet! ouch!denise in mokelumne hill, calif
Re: trailering and mares
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] hey listers, i am back from our russia trip and i kissed american soil when we landed!! what a place..but that is another story! i have a trailering question for you all. i have a 3 horse trailer. i will be hauling one of my boys to a week long horsetraining seminar in a couple of weeks. should i put him in the slot closest to the truck as usual or let him have the whole trailer, untied, as one would haul in a stock trailer? he has never been free to use the whole space before. what did you think? another question about mares. my mare cycled and was in heat while we were gone. she is still acting nasty and grouchy toward the boys and my goats. she usually loves grooming and today she acted like she could take it or leave it. she has no fever, eats and drinks and was not bred. she is my first mare. is her attitude normal? i feel sorry for the rest of the barn inhabitants, as she is very quick to nip when before she is usually very mellow. she even grabbed one of the goats today by his tail and lifted him off his rear feet! ouch!denise in mokelumne hill, calif
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello! Oops, sorry! I had thought I had sent this privately. Lynda
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Brian, I would like to reprint your email titled trailering for our winter edition of the Fjordhest Forum. Would this be ok with you? Lynda
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Dave, your msg received, but no horses here. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FjordList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 7:38 PM Subject: trailering This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't have horses going west when I trailer next week. Thought I'd mention this again, in case the right person missed it. I'm leaving NH on July 5 headed to Nebraska with an empty trailer, and looking for horses to haul. Dave
