Winona weekend
This message is from: Carol Makosky Janet McNally, Email me in private. We in WI & MN had a wonderful fun and educational weekend winter meeting of the Midwest Fjord Horse Club. Stay tuned for the Blue Earth show that has been moved to Cedar Rapids, IA due to out growing the Blue Earth county fair grounds. -- "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." R.B. Cunningham Graham Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin Home of Heidi, The Wonder Pony Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fw: Winter Meeting in Winona, MN
This message is from: Joan griffin - Forwarded Message From: Joan griffin To: Fjord List Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 10:38:20 AM Subject: Re: Winter Meeting in Winona, MN Just a reminder to all who are planning on bringing items to sell in the Used Tack Sale at the MWFHC's annual Winter Meeting in Winona, MN next week. Please attach a tag to each item and include: your name, type of item & price. It's going to be a fun & informative gathering! Hope to see you there! Joni Griffin (any questions, contact me: fjordjoc...@yahoo.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Vivian and Winona
This message is from: "Linda Taylor" - Original Message - From: "Linda Taylor" To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #41 Muchos congratulations to our own Vivian Creigh and her wonderful little mare, Winona, for their first place prelim single pony at the Sunshine CDE. Very impressive! Keep up the great work! Linda Taylor in Nor Ca Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Vivian Creigh and Winona
This message is from: claudia galup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was at the Southern Pines CDE last weekend and watched Vivian and Winona's absolutely spectacular performance. They won their division in a very competitive field, and looked gorgeous to boot! Of 17 ponies, 3 were fjords, and all did well. Ardeth Obenauf and Penny Stuckey Freeman were the other 2 Fjord drivers, all driving at Preliminary Level. Claudia _ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
congrats to Vivian & Winona
This message is from: Karen McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was blearily checking out the photos online from the Sunshine State CDE last weekend in Florida, and lo & behold, there is Vivian Criegh driving her mare Winona, lookin' really good...so I looked up the results and wow! 1st place Prelim. Pony. Way to go Vivian! Sure looked like you were haing a blast in the hazards - heard they were tuff too. Kmac Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona DVD!!!
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:15 PM 9/20/2007, you wrote: This message is from: Fiona Lindsay-Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who do we order the dvds from? From me. Here is a link to the order form for them: http://www.nfhr.com/PDF/NFHR%20Order.pdf Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I LOVE the Evening With Dancing Fjords DVD! As Laurie said, it's like being back there again, but warmer!! I was so proud of everybody! Kay and Bogie, who's especially in love with the part where he got to carry a flag and Braveheart, whose comments on Bogie's moment in the spotlight are best left unrecorded. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Fiona Lindsay Delfino Box 51 S.Strafford, VT 05070 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C) 603 359 0150 (S) 910 277 5192 - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona DVD!!!
This message is from: Fiona Lindsay-Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who do we order the dvds from? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I LOVE the Evening With Dancing Fjords DVD! As Laurie said, it's like being back there again, but warmer!! I was so proud of everybody! Kay and Bogie, who's especially in love with the part where he got to carry a flag and Braveheart, whose comments on Bogie's moment in the spotlight are best left unrecorded. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Fiona Lindsay Delfino Box 51 S.Strafford, VT 05070 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C) 603 359 0150 (S) 910 277 5192 - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona DVD!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I LOVE the Evening With Dancing Fjords DVD! As Laurie said, it's like being back there again, but warmer!! I was so proud of everybody! Kay and Bogie, who's especially in love with the part where he got to carry a flag and Braveheart, whose comments on Bogie's moment in the spotlight are best left unrecorded. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona DVD
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Susan and Beth, I can't wait! Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ - Original Message - From: "Susan Cargill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Winona DVD This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth and I have received the finalized copy of the Evening of Dancing Fjords DVD that was filmed at the 25th Anniversary Celebration in October, 2006. Since Beth and I have a tendency to over-extend ourselves this project has taken longer than we anticipated. The event was filmed with two cameras and had to be clipped into a reasonable length for the DVD. We worked with a professional videographer who made the final result appear easy - but it was a long and time consuming process. Then we discovered that the music that was used originally could not be used because of expensive royalties. New music had to be selected. The DVD cover art had to be designed. Since the original music could not be used Wayne Williams came to Mpls and helped us with a new voice over. We are finally ready to have the DVD's duplicated. They will go to Mike May for distribution when duplication is finished. I do apologize for the delay but I'm also sure you will enjoy the DVD. Susan - Longtheway Farm The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona DVD
This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth and I have received the finalized copy of the Evening of Dancing Fjords DVD that was filmed at the 25th Anniversary Celebration in October, 2006. Since Beth and I have a tendency to over-extend ourselves this project has taken longer than we anticipated. The event was filmed with two cameras and had to be clipped into a reasonable length for the DVD. We worked with a professional videographer who made the final result appear easy - but it was a long and time consuming process. Then we discovered that the music that was used originally could not be used because of expensive royalties. New music had to be selected. The DVD cover art had to be designed. Since the original music could not be used Wayne Williams came to Mpls and helped us with a new voice over. We are finally ready to have the DVD's duplicated. They will go to Mike May for distribution when duplication is finished. I do apologize for the delay but I'm also sure you will enjoy the DVD. Susan - Longtheway Farm The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona DVD
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was just thinking of asking the same question. Thought, maybe mine had been lost. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Winona DVD This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any idea WHEN we'll be getting these DVD's ? Thanks for any info. Aimee Day For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona DVD
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any idea WHEN we'll be getting these DVD's ? Thanks for any info. Aimee Day ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona and Eline's big finish to the week
This message is from: vivian creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Although I didn't get to watch stadium school at Eric Smiley clinic I did film some of the x-country and it went really well. Eric remained totally smitten with the pony , and I was delighted that he continued to view her as just a terrific pony that would be terrific for 20+ years. Saturday Eline competed Winnie at the Beg. Novice level for the last time. We had entered her Novice but chose to keep her at the lower level for one more school as even though she had jumped Novice and Training level fences during the clinic it would do both Eline and Winnie good to keep her at a lower level. It was a good decision as they had 29.5 pen.pts after dressage, clean x-country and one rail down in stadium for first place. Vivian C The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona DVD
This message is from: "S. A. Freivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Any news on when it will be available? Sue Freivald The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
What did Winona mean to you?
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, you must've thought I directed my last request to the other folks on the list that went to Winona - and not you.. No, if you went to Winona, I'm writing this to YOU. We have only had a few folks send us anything about their adventures to, at, and home from Winona. As we prepare to pull together the winter issue for the Herald we are missing a very important part what we want to include for the 25th Anniversary Celebration piece. We have photos and we have the evaluation and show results. What we are missing is how the event experienced was by those that attended. Unfortunately, Beth and I don't know everyone, and were wy too busy at the event to sit and interview folks in an attempt to get this information while we were there. Please help us. So, here's my request. If you attended, please consider taking a few minutes to email us what the celebration meant to you, what were the hightlights and why (the community, the banquet, the weather (NOT!), seeing so-and-so and their horse that you'd heard about...etc.etc) If you know of someone who might have some intesting perspective - let us know and we can follow up with them. All I'm asking for is a sentence or a paragraph. I'd like to read thru 50 or 100 of these to get the 'pulse' of the event. And, if you are so inclined, write several paragraphs! Please don't post your comments to this list -- Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] And contact us at that same Email if you have any questions about my request. Thanks, Sandy The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
winona photos
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some mentioned getting some of Laurie's pictures from the show and how marvelous they were. also there was another email asking for the website again, so here you go! Reena http://www.livinginoz.smugmug.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: more photos from winona
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Will someone post the address to the photos, lost it. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
pictures from Winona & Laurie With
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would like to encourage everyone who was at Winona to look at Laurie With's photography. She did an excellent job there - capturing the event. Caught horses at the right times - and some great candid shots. I just got the pictures I ordered and they are professional and high quality. Great job Laurie. She even managed to do something no other photographer ever did. She caught me smiling. Thanks Laurie Pat Holland Also, Laurie was our photographer at the 06' Blue Earth show and she has agreed to do it again for our 07' show. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona thank you .... (long)
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:34 AM 11/13/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A little more than a month ago I was busy trying to be ready for my first trip ever to the US. I could only stay for 10 days, which I still regret. But being a board-member in Denmark I simply had to go home to prepare two meetings in the end of October and a general assembly in November. This has been done, so now is time to tell you all how much I enjoyed to be in Winona. Glad to hear you made it back ok & also that you had such a good time. Hope you and all of our other foreign guests will be able to come again for our 30th Anniversary too. When it comes to 2011 at least three countries/associations can celebrate their next anniversary: NFHR, Sweden and Denmark. I think it will be a good idea to co-ordinate the dates ... Now this sounds like a real good idea Birgit. I will let you know as soon as we have a committee formed for the next one. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona thank you .... (long)
This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A little more than a month ago I was busy trying to be ready for my first trip ever to the US. I could only stay for 10 days, which I still regret. But being a board-member in Denmark I simply had to go home to prepare two meetings in the end of October and a general assembly in November. This has been done, so now is time to tell you all how much I enjoyed to be in Winona. It was bitterly cold and windy ... at least outside .. especially the first couple of days, but I must say that you folks compensated for that more than I have experienced in any other country. Some of you I have met on earlier occasions, partly in Norway in May (stallion exhibitions) and partly in Denmark in August (our 65th), and it was great to see you again. But it was also great to get so many new friends in Winona, and to have faces combined with names I only knew from the Digest that was fun too. It was also great to meet European friends from Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and Switzerland (and since most of us stayed at the same hotel there is also many good memories from the breakfast table and late evening tables .). So many things from your 25th are worth talking about: - I was impressed of the hospitality you showed the European visitors - It was incredible that you could gather so many horses from so far away (here in little Denmark we must sometimes listen to whining, if members have to travel 2-3 hours to take their mare to an evaluation place ..) - Your stallion presentation on the first evening was so interesting - The banquet was great, excellent food and not too long speeches ... And again a lot of people who really seemed to like to have us there, what more can you wish for .. - The evening of dancing fjords was terrific. In 2004 the German association celebrated an anniversary, and at that time I stated that their show was better than every other fjordhorse show I had seen before. Sorry Germany - today I have to say that the Winona show is the number one show. - It was both interesting and educational to follow your evaluation and the many other classes, in many ways different from what we do in Denmark When you visit an exhibition or anniversary in another country it is quite natural that one of the things you take special interest in is, if some horses from your own country are participating. There is not many Danish bred fjord horses living in North America. Green Valley Farm has imported the stallion Kastanjegardens Fernando and the mare Thilde, Pat Wolfe has imported three mares: Hirse Klattrup (now at Olivia Farm), Katrinedals Vanessa and Hojgaards Emmeline. Then there are three (or is it four?) young horses in California, another young horse in Canada and maybe 22 year old Malene Stanstorp is still alive. 3 year old Katrinedals Vanessa and 10 year old Kastanjegardens Fernando were both in Winona. It was fun to see them again, and the number of ribbons they received was truly amazing. Blue ribbons to both of them in conformation, Fernando scored 86 point, which as far as I understood made him to one of the best scored stallions in North America. Apart from that he was entered in a lot of other classes and so was Vanessa. In Denmark she was evaluated as a yearling with good scores, and Fernando has twice been appointed stallion of the year in Denmark. So it felt quite good to be Danish in Winona .. A thing which was not so good was that I had left my camera in Denmark. If any of you has taken some pictures of these two horses I would be very grateful, if you would mail them to me - especially if you will allow me to use them in an article about your 25th I am going to write to the next issue of the Danish fjord horse magazine. Other spectacular photos will also be welcomed. I cannot wait to buy the DVD's, I have told a lot of people how great is was 'over there', and I know they will enjoy to see proof of that. So once again: thank you so very much to all of you (nobody mentioned - nobody forgotten) for some great days in Winona and many wonderful memories. Don't hesitate so send me a mail if there is anything I can help you with or if you are planning to pay Denmark a visit in the future. But don't come in November, this month is awful (grey, rainy - and if you are unlucky cold too, we had our first snow in the beginning of this month, but is disappeared very quickly). The season for our horse events are from April (young horse shows) to September (foals shows). When it comes to 2011 at least three countries/associations can celebrate their next anniversary: NFHR, Sweden and Denmark. I think it will be a good idea to co-ordinate the dates ... Birgit / Fjordhesten Danmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Hope this message will reach the list. I have had problems posting to the list during many month, but lu
Re: winona
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 02:03 PM 11/6/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am not quite sure if you understood what i meant as an level playing field. I am not directly talking about level playing field for that day, with those entered in the evaluation test. BUTRATHER for ALL who take it, before Winona and after. That is what the committee & I try to provide. BUT - it just isn't really possible when you come right down to it. For instance - is the playing field the same if it is a hot sticky 90 + degree day & the tests are out in the hot sun & then at another eval (possibly at the same site it is 40 deg & spitting snow. Now take it one farther - is it a level field if you move either of them inside & hold the other one in the heat or cold? I guess what it comes down to is we really can't control everything. Even if we opted for only climate controlled facilities they won't all be the same. Some will have more or less warm up area than others etc. I just am not sure that those that did the test in LaCrosse or out West or wherever had the same elements as Winona and I'm wondering if ANYONE in the future EVER will. Hopefully not. I'm really not trying to hold the committee on the firing block, Albeit, the buck has to stop somewhere. I do believe they thought they were doing the only thing possible and hindsight is 20/20. I think there was a couple other options but I can honestly say that because it's over and i can relook at it. What were they? I still don't know what else we would have done different other than cancel them completely & that wouldn't have been fair either. I also was not on the committee, and I do know how hard it is to make some decisions. I do however think, having a plan B would have been a REALLY good thing. Believe me we try to have one. With the restrictions we had from the facility we just didn't have any other options. We did learn a lot I will tell you that for sure. In the future - if there is another one of these (hopefully there will be) I am sure we will have separate days for the Evaluation (that is what we wanted here but could not get the facility for another day). I really believe it was a learning experience. I am proud of our accomplishments there. It was a GREAT Show Sat. night, we ALL should be proud of it. It was a spectacular event. I can't wait to see the video of it. The evaluation had the most Fjords present that is also GREAT for our breed and the show did show lots of talent out there. I'm all for holding on to the good and the great memories but we also should not overlook "issues" and should really learn from them. That is how you make the next one even better! Absolutely. We are having follow up meetings on both the Evaluation & show side of the event. By the way - don't forget this was the FIRST horse show the NFHR has ever held on its own. All of the other Fjord breed shows are put on by the Promotional groups not the NFHR. Not sure everyone knows that or not. Mike Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
winona
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Mike for confirming stopping your evaluation test before you are finished and that it would not be recorded. Think that is nice for everyone to know and remember. You said: "Well I agree the weather was awful. But as to being a level playing field I think all of the draft tests were on a level field. A lot of people wanted us to stop in the middle of them & move it inside for the rest of them. Now THAT would have been wrong in my mind. Once you start you have to finish as far as I am concerned." I am not quite sure if you understood what i meant as an level playing field. I am not directly talking about level playing field for that day, with those entered in the evaluation test. BUTRATHER for ALL who take it, before Winona and after. Yes, I agree, you started outside, you HAD to finish outside or redo the ones inside if you had moved it indoors. I agree with your statement there. That wasn't what I was referring to. I just am not sure that those that did the test in LaCrosse or out West or wherever had the same elements as Winona and I'm wondering if ANYONE in the future EVER will. Everyone will remember that day and then this discussion :- on the list!! And will be too afraid to be the one to say we did it in Winona we can do it again. I'm really not trying to hold the committee on the firing block, Albeit, the buck has to stop somewhere. I do believe they thought they were doing the only thing possible and hindsight is 20/20. I think there was a couple other options but I can honestly say that because it's over and i can relook at it. I also was not on the committee, and I do know how hard it is to make some decisions. I do however think, having a plan B would have been a REALLY good thing. Living in WI, Oct is a REALLY iffy month. I've seen it snow, been extremely cold, blowing wind, Winona all over. Although that was really a record breaking day. BUT...you always need a plan B whenever you plan ANYTHING IN WI, AT ANY TIME OF THE YEAR. "I think". Just My two cents. I really believe it was a learning experience. I am proud of our accomplishments there. It was a GREAT Show Sat. night, we ALL should be proud of it. The evaluation had the most Fjords present that is also GREAT for our breed and the show did show lots of talent out there. I'm all for holding on to the good and the great memories but we also should not overlook "issues" and should really learn from them. That is how you make the next one even better! Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona DVD
This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, is very correct - we have at least 40 hours of video from Winona. We have coverage of the evaluation, horse show, stallion presentations, Evening of Dancing Fjords and interviews with participants and our European visitors. Its my plan to start with a DVD of the Evening of Dancing Fjords because it will be the easiest and quickest to have ready but I'm sorry Carol - not for Christmas - maybe your birthday. I'd also like to express my thanks to the Show Committee of the 25th Anniversary Show. These people worked very hard to make this show happen. Beth Beymer - Evening of Dancing Fjords (It was definitely a WOW evening - standing room only crowd. Definitely showed the versatility of the fjord - wait till you see the DVD) Betsy Cowperwaithe - Our Horse Show Manager - Betsy is currently a non-fjord person but we have converted her. Cynthia Madden - Promotions (Cynthia was responsible for all the great press we had in local papers and some not-so-local publications. She also was responsible for all the fjord goodies that were available for sale - Sweatshirts, T-shirts, cups and posters.) Debbie Ulrich - Banquet and Hospitality (Debbie was instrumental in locating Signatures where the banquet was held. She helped in planning the meal and the beautiful flowers. She also organized a hospitality booth which held local brochures and information for attendees. Debbie lives locally and was the recipent of many boxes for the Promotions Committee) Howard Fiedler - 25th Anniversary Celebration Program (Howard did an excellent job of selling advertising, organizing some wonderful articles. The program was wonderful) Jana Lower - Show Secretary - Also a non-fjord person but we're still working on her. Linda Syverson-Kerr (Barn Manager - Linda was on the front line with answers for all those questions that were put to her. She cheerfully dealt with those who had lost their reservations or had not made them and a few last minute cancellations. For those of you that don't know - Linda is running for the Board. She would make an excellent Board Member) Martha Martin - International Hospitality (Martha worked with our international visitors - helping them make hotel reservations, travel arrangements. She also put together some lovely gift bags for our visitors) Mike May - Evaluation Technical Delegate and Paperwork King (Mike was our rock - he never complained even though he has a full work load without all the paperwork for the Celebration - Thank you Mike for all the hard work) Pat Holland and Pat Wolfe (The Pat's did an excellent job of planning and executing stallion row. The evening performance went off without a hick up. Good Job) Sophie Fiedler and Phil Odden - Evaluation (Sophie and Phil did a great job of working through some significant adversity - in particular the weather. There have been lots of comments of should have done, could have done, would have done but we all need to remember how much work goes into planning an evaluation and this was the largest evaluation held by the NFHR.) Vivian Creigh - Awards (Vivian ordered the ribbons and special awards (blankets and halters. Good work) Also special thanks to Mark McGinley, Curt Pierce and Kay Van Netta - Mark was always there when we had to deal with some sticky issues. Curt did a great job of getting the 25th off the ground, Phil Pritchard kept us on budget with his questions and Kay Van Netta was always there with encouraging words and a laugh. It was a wonderful 25th Anniversary Celebration - well worth all the work we all put into it. I know there were issues but I've never seen so many smiling and happy faces at a horse show. And.so many well behaved horses. It is definitely a tribute to our wonderful breed. We had a great group of volunteers, people from all over the country, who came to the Celebration and gave of their time - Thank you all for helping. We couldn't have done it without you. On a personal note - I'd like to thank Vivian Creigh who came and took Felix under her wing for me. She showed him for me in the single driving classes, the stallion presentation and rode with Arne Presthaus during an Evening of Dancing Fjords in a presentation of Antique Carts and Norwegian Stallions that Pat Wolfe orchestrated. With Vivian's assistance Felix won Reserve Champion in the single driving class. Thank you Vivian. I'd also like to thank Dave McWethy for driving my ulsdun four-in-hand in an Evening of Dancing Fjords. Dave did an excellent job after a minimal amount of preparation. Thank you Dave. I'd also like to thank Beth Beymer who took the four-in-hand and worked with them in Colorado prior to the 25th Celebration and Susan North (Sandy's mom) who loaned us the wonderful Sara when Sandvik Bella was unable to continue. Also, for showing Felix in Get of Sire where he placed second a
RE: video from Winona?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, The one from Brian Jensen is from the Libby show. Jean in sunny but cold Fairbanks, Alaska, 10 degrees, no wind. Brian and Ursula were offering one for $25. On DVD, I believe. I missed the first offer, and then inquired when they said people had been too long in getting their money in because Brian and Ursula's e-mail seemed to indicate there was a last-chance opportunity to purchase other copies. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: training/winona/etc
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:00 PM 11/3/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The ONE thing I learned which I'm REALLY glad I did, and I'm sorry for those that didn't know this but in the future perhaps it will help someone. IF.you are performing a test and it's not going well AT ALLL! Stop, tell them you do not wish to finish the test, leave BEFORE finishing and your score will not go in the record book. You are considered stratched. AT least that is what was told to me. MIKE -OR BETH- if that is not correct please correct. That is correct Patti. If you excuse yourself before completing the test the score is not recorded at all. It's all hindsight, the committee had a tough decision to be made,what to do. I do hope in the future and I'm pretty sure it is, lessons will be learned and things will be different. We made the only decision we could make. There wasn't any other options available to us. We would have liked to have 2 days for just the Evaluation but the site would not let us in any sooner than they did. We had to beg them to get in when we did in fact. I show in all weather, local here, at hunter/jumper shows, next year, Lord Willing a few eventing competitions, Held OUTSIDE. BUTthese are shows, not evaluations. The cost is way less, their is no record that is as important as an evaluation, AND we are not being judged against the standard, by which OTHER evaluations also held don't have to put up with conditions like at Winona. Carol R. made an excellent point,it's not an equal playing field by any means. Well I agree the weather was awful. But as to being a level playing field I think all of the draft tests were on a level field. A lot of people wanted us to stop in the middle of them & move it inside for the rest of them. Now THAT would have been wrong in my mind. Once you start you have to finish as far as I am concerned. IT WAS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BAD CONDITIONS!!! I agree it was really pretty bad. Is there much that can be done now?? Maybe the NFHR can allow those to redo the test at a reduced rate??? Only for those getting below a 70. Maybe their is nothing more then just learning from it, one thing NO ONE WILL EVERY FORGET IT. Definate memory maker! The Evaluation Committee is going to meet & make a decision on it. Just so everyone knows though - 50% of the horses doing the test got Blue Ribbons. There were 4 Blues, 2 Reds & 2 Yellows. In the Advanced tests there was 1 Blue & 1 Yellow Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: video from Winona?
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:25 PM 11/3/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. I don't have setails yet but there was over 40 hours of video taken during the event. So you might imagine that it is a really BIG editing job - so it will take some time I am guessing. Mike The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: video from Winona?
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes. Who knows when it will be for sale??? I have it on my Christmas list. mom wrote: This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: video from Winona?
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian and Ursula were offering one for $25. On DVD, I believe. I missed the first offer, and then inquired when they said people had been too long in getting their money in because Brian and Ursula's e-mail seemed to indicate there was a last-chance opportunity to purchase other copies. I never received a response back. (I had posted to the list and privately, both, because I think Brian and Ursula may not read all the correspondence on the list.) SoI had been debating whether to just send them money or not. Someone else e-mailed me and said he had had no response back either. I also think there may be another video in the works as well??? An "official one?" Clarification would be appreciated. Gail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mom Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:26 AM To: fjordhorse-digest Subject: video from Winona? This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: training/winona/etc
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After rereading Patti Jo's post and Phil Odden's, the distinction between the weather in Winona and everyday weather came to me. This weather was of "storm" proportions. Think of those films about the hard scrabble lives of folks on the South Dakota plains who are shown hanging onto fence posts in order to get out to the garden to pick the remnants of their garden that was about to be blown away in horizontal winds. It is the kind of weather that only desperate folks would have gone out in, because they know that it would pass shortly. Sure, it was cold much of the weekend, but the winds during the part of the day that the draft tests were being done were awful. Gail I live in East Central Wisconsin, 10 miles from the lake. Seems like it is always windy here. I train horses year round. I do a LOT of it outdoors. Before I built the indoor, I even started many horses in WINTER and have been known to work in wind/rain/snow/bad weather. That being said, I would not have been a happy camper had I had to perform in that weather at Winona The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
training/winona/etc
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guess I'll get my two cents in here, since there is GREAT discussion going on regarding the draft test held outdoors at Winona. About training before hand, our disposition of the breed, conditions to hold a test or show, etc First, I want to say, I think it's great we can all discuss. I hope to my adding to it, will only help, educate and encourage. I live in East Central Wisconsin, 10 miles from the lake. Seems like it is always windy here. I train horses year round. I do a LOT of it outdoors. Before I built the indoor, I even started many horses in WINTER and have been known to work in wind/rain/snow/bad weather. That being said, I would not have been a happy camper had I had to perform in that weather at Winona. ANDI might add, AT HOME MY HORSES DO NOT MIND THE WIND. I can not always be sure of that when we go places. Some horses act VERY different off the farm. I had a white gelding named Silas, gorgeous horse, I rode him EVERYWHERE in all types of weather. I know he would not have handled Winona well at all. AT home, I'm sure we would have been ok, but...he gets up with other Fjords around and he went to a LOT of shows, so please don't assume he needed more show experience, the boy was in a trailer going somewhere probably EVERY week! He was not the same horse at the non Fjord shows. BUT...get him around other Fjords and the boy turned into a handful. :-) EVERY horse is different, Ole he would have been 100% fine out there at Winona, but nothing fazes him. Me, on the other hand, would not have been happy. I personally think we pay enough money to get decent conditions to show our horse to the best of their ability and having to perform outside in those conditions would not have sat well with me, sorry. AND if you would not ask a dressage rider to do a test outside, why would it be ok for a draft person I think i would have had to have stratched had I been signed up. Although who wants to lose all their money??? The ONE thing I learned which I'm REALLY glad I did, and I'm sorry for those that didn't know this but in the future perhaps it will help someone. IF.you are performing a test and it's not going well AT ALLL! Stop, tell them you do not wish to finish the test, leave BEFORE finishing and your score will not go in the record book. You are considered stratched. AT least that is what was told to me. MIKE -OR BETH- if that is not correct please correct. It's all hindsight, the committee had a tough decision to be made,what to do. I do hope in the future and I'm pretty sure it is, lessons will be learned and things will be different. I show in all weather, local here, at hunter/jumper shows, next year, Lord Willing a few eventing competitions, Held OUTSIDE. BUTthese are shows, not evaluations. The cost is way less, their is no record that is as important as an evaluation, AND we are not being judged against the standard, by which OTHER evaluations also held don't have to put up with conditions like at Winona. Carol R. made an excellent point,it's not an equal playing field by any means. Can we blame it on poor training, sorry don't think it's that easy. Can we blame it on bloodlines. Maybe to some degree, but not totally, can we blame it on the handler being upset, uneasy, unnerved, again perhaps to some degree, but I know some horses here too would not let it get in their way. Ask Pat H. when she rode my Ole or Hostar and she was full of nerves, they were cool as a cucumber. Can we blame it on someone getting a poor score , so they are upset and making more out of it then what it should be. Don't think so. IT WAS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BAD CONDITIONS!!! Margaret made an excellent point here as well, Our evaluators are good, some are Excellent and if they are not happy with the conditions, I think that says volumes. Is there much that can be done now?? Maybe the NFHR can allow those to redo the test at a reduced rate??? Only for those getting below a 70. Maybe their is nothing more then just learning from it, one thing NO ONE WILL EVERY FORGET IT. Definate memory maker! One last note, I do wish to get on the band wagon about disposition and breeding. A couple of the mares that were GREAT at the draft test. Janet McNally's mare FCF Gyda(born on my farm, sold to Janet after I started her) rec'd a 91 in intro and 85 in advance tests. Also her filly Helga(3 yr old) who I worked this summer for Janet rec'd an 89 in the intro. Helga had ovly 90 days under harness and saddle. Well saddle maybe last 30 along with the harness work. They were unfazed by it. Janet can't get emails on the digest, so I'll brag for her. Janet has a sheep ranch, she does draft work outside year long. BUTHelga just went home about 1+ month before Winona. Was it just the training, I don't think so
Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I appreciate Beth's thoughtful response on the Winona wind issue. I certainly think that the NFHR trained evaluators, whom Beth is one, certainly considered all the points she raised about factors that impacted on performance. It's been my experience that evaluators are not shy about stating that a horse needs more training, the handler was nervous, etc. However, when a senior evaluator writes several times that wind was a factor in the horse's performance, I think it can be taken literally. As for Alan Merrill's comments, it is indeed sad to see personal attacks return to the List. My concern is about the fairness of holding an evaluation performance test under extremely adverse conditions. I certainly think that moving the riding and driving tests indoors because of adverse weather conditions was the right thing to do. I don't think that the riding or driving results would have been the same if these tests were held outdoors in the 40 mph wind. I think EVERY horse had a better chance to perform when their test was moved indoors. It seems unfair that the draft test didn't get accorded the same treatment as the other performance tests and I hope that steps are taken so a similar situation does not occur in the future. Margaret A. Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Curt Pierce at Winona
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- The 25th Anniversary Show was simply fabulous. I'm still flying high after having been there and seen it all. -- Every person who worked on this event AND who participated in it, deserves the most sincere and enthusiastic gratitude from all of us. I say that because the entire Fjord world in North America has made a giant leap forward with this happening. Of course, as in any other undertaking of such magnitude, there were things that the committees noticed that might be improved on in the future, but overall . . . It was just about perfect. . -- And I have to say that one of our fondest memories is that of seeing Curt Pierce competing. My goodness, that man has more energy and drive than you'd think possible. -- Everywhere you looked, Curt was either riding or driving. The culmination was the Stallion Presentations Night when Curt showed four or five stallions, both riding and driving --- Once even in a Santa Claus suit. -- It was an incredible effort, and he pulled it off with good cheer and enthusiasm. I was prompted to write about Curt after reading his post in today's Digest about yet again another show he was involved in to promote the Fjord breed. How does the man do it? He's amazing and he's also an awesome ambassador for the breed. Kind Regards, Carol Rivoire This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I want to thank all the Fjords owners that helped us at the VEE in Richmond, VA, this last weekend. Sue Freivald, Jan Bonner, Anne Stifel, Ellen Davidson, and Sandra Church all helped out during the weekend. We had a lot of visitors during the expo that looked and petted Ulend, Solvar, and Sunhilde. It was the first trip for 5 month old Sunhilde and she was great. We also participated in 2 demonstrations each day and several clinics. The highlight on Friday and Saturday was Marsha driving Ulend and Solvar in the evening show with Sue as the groom. They did a speed and agility exhibition against a pair of Welsh crosses and a pair of Friesians. The Fjords got the loudest cheers each night. Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd. Phone: 902-386-2304 Fax: 902-386-2149 URL: www.beaverdamfarm.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Raised by the Sea in Health and Tranquility" Visit our NEW Riding Vacation page on our website today! http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/pages/riding-vacation/index.html The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:52 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I was at the Libby show in Montana this last September we had a guest speaker from Germany and one of the things he quoted (can't remember who he quoted) was that "a Fjord horse must first be a Fjord horse in it's head". That would have been Jon Hegdal that was quoted I am sure. Phil Prichard used he same quote at the Banquet in Winona. As I understand the evaluation proccess you can always do another one and if you get a better score it'll be put in the book. I also thought it was your choice as to whether you wanted to have your scores in the book anyway...is this not right? All scores are put in the Record Book. The last line of the disclaimer paragraph on the Evaluation Entry form says: "I give my permission for the evaluation results, photographs and/or videos of my horse to be published by the NFHR." My dad always told me that hard work was the great equalizer. Sounds like a smart man. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:51 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was wondering about the actual adverse effects of the performance scores on the horse. Is it possible to repeat the test and have a higher score substituted? Or at least dilute the lower score? Any of the tests in the Evaluation can be re done at a later date. That includes Conformation or Performance tests. The scores will be in the Record book each time the horse does a test. Mike I know that I had Beth Beymer do Rom's introductory English Riding test at Libby, even though we both knew that he was not really ready. I just wanted to see how he could do given the fact that we were already there and had paid for the test. I had always thought I could have him retake the test later. Poor Beth. That year she had Wayne Hipsley giving her little hints on how to get the correct performance out of horses. Wayne did not realize that Beth had been given several green horses to ready for the performance tests only a short time before the Libby evaluation. She knew what to do, but was unable to work miracles. (At the time Rom was a mature stallion, but had never had riding training before.) Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the 2001 stallion evaluation in Nordfjordeid it was spitting snow and blowing. That said, the weather in Winona was considerably worse. One looked out and saw dust blowing, trees bent over. I remember thinking how happy I was that I was not one of the judges who had to stand out in the cold and watch the draft evaluations. It WAS nasty. In Norway, Catherine Lassesen advised me that the Norwegian attitude is that "there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes." In Norway, people wear waterproof insulated nylon coveralls routinely, even in town in the beginning of May. Sort of "Carharts on steroids!" The only comparable gear I have seen here is in sailing supply stores. My guess is that the Norwegians would say that a Fjord needs to be able to deal with the weather, whatever it is. I do know that I get a bit impatient with people who have to make excuses for their fancy warmblood that can't possibly perform its dressage test because there is some scary object (blue tarp, white tire, etc) any where near the arena. It would be good to have "No excuses horses." (Maybe a great breeders farm name"No Excuses Fjord Farm?" Or "Norwegian Fjord Horse, the No Excuses Horse." Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am responding to Jo Wilgus's question about inclement weather plans for an Evaluation. First it is important to recognize that an evaluation holds each horse against an absolute standard. It is not a horse show... Hi, I've been reading about the evals at Winona with interest & amusement. I took my mare Libby to our first eval in Libby Montana this last September, so I know all the work that goes into preparing for the evaluation. I can't help but wonder what the Norwegians of old might have said about the conditions at Winona...I thought one of the main attractions and/or attributes of the fjord horse is their versatility and stability? I'm sorry, I just can't imagine an old Norwegian farmer taking his horse out on a blustery fall or winter day to drag fire logs out of the woods and putting up with his horse misbehaving because it was cold and blowing. When I was at the Libby show in Montana this last September we had a guest speaker from Germany and one of the things he quoted (can't remember who he quoted) was that "a Fjord horse must first be a Fjord horse in it's head". We can breed the best looking Fjord in the world, best mover, etc. etc., but if it's not Fjord in the head, you might as well go get an Arab or Thoroughbred or any other half brain horse (although I've had good Arabs & Thoroughbreds). Looking like a Fjord is important, don't get me wrong, but if the horse doesn't think like a Fjord then what do you have? As I understand the evaluation proccess you can always do another one and if you get a better score it'll be put in the book. I also thought it was your choice as to whether you wanted to have your scores in the book anyway...is this not right? I don't mean to salt anyone's wounds, but the way I look at stuff like this is: If your horse didn't do as well as you thought it should, and you think it had to do with the conditions at the time, then your horse was not as prepared as he, she, or it should have been. I honestly believe that if we have a good working relationship with our horses they'll perform for us regardless of what is going on around them. If we don't have that good working relationship, then everything we do is a crap shoot. My dad always told me that hard work was the great equalizer. --David VanHoof Work smart, Play hard The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
winona photos
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i finally got all my stuff uploaded.and again, sorry for the ones that are a little grainy. maybe we can just call them artsy laurie, and oz, who would be best photographed with his head down, eating The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Margaret: I have seen no complaints from the Blue or Red ribbon winners in the Draft Evaluation at Winona. I suggest your frustration is aimed at your horse who earned a Yellow ribbon rather than at the hard working organizers and volunteers who made such a success of the 25th Anniversary Show in spite of adverse weather conditions. Alan Merrill Tryon, N. C. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was wondering about the actual adverse effects of the performance scores on the horse. Is it possible to repeat the test and have a higher score substituted? Or at least dilute the lower score? I know that I had Beth Beymer do Rom's introductory English Riding test at Libby, even though we both knew that he was not really ready. I just wanted to see how he could do given the fact that we were already there and had paid for the test. I had always thought I could have him retake the test later. Poor Beth. That year she had Wayne Hipsley giving her little hints on how to get the correct performance out of horses. Wayne did not realize that Beth had been given several green horses to ready for the performance tests only a short time before the Libby evaluation. She knew what to do, but was unable to work miracles. (At the time Rom was a mature stallion, but had never had riding training before.) Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Margaret from your reply. Sounds like I would have been whining the whole time. Bitter cold is so NOT me. I hope at future events everyone will be blessed with good weather. Maybe you should do it here in CA? I know there is talk about having an evaluation here. There was an evaluation here in Fallbrook. It was hot. See I have lived in CA too long. Hot, cold, winds I complain about it all. It has been beautiful here this past week. Have been riding both my Fjords Regn and Duffers. Have a great day. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am responding to Jo Wilgus's question about inclement weather plans for an Evaluation. First it is important to recognize that an evaluation holds each horse against an absolute standard. It is not a horse show where there is a relative standard based on the competitors involved. The principal of an evaluation is that the test is a fair one and that distractions that can influence the outcome of a test should be limited. The goal is to have all horses do the best they can do as they are NOT competing against each other but against a standard. All the performance tests in Winona were scheduled to be held outdoors. However, the riding and driving tests were moved indoors. The draft test was held in very strong winds in the bitter cold. Is that a fair test of the horse ability? If the weather was too bad for the riding and driving tests to be held outdoors, why was it okay for the draft test to be held under those conditions? The evaluators were complaining about the wind and the impact it was having on scores. They did this in writing on the score sheets. I have been on the host committee for two NFHR evaluations and we always had inclement weather plans for outside activities. Apparently this wasn't considered when organizing Winona. The only reason I have commented on this subject publicly is because the co-chair of the Evaluation Committee posted on this List that the "weather caused us a few problems." That is an understatement. Anyone attending the Winona Evaluation knows that weather had a huge impact on the entire event. Margaret A. Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com ***Fjords for Sale: 2002 Brown Dun mare, 2003 Gray and Brown Dun geldings, 2006 Brown Dun Colt and Filly*** The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re weather during draft tests at Winona
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- I have posted to the Digest two or three times since returning from the 25th, about how absolutely fabulous the show was. Well, from my point of view, it was. But I was inside most of the time and wasn't trying to do an Evaluation Draft Test in the coditions that prevailed. -- I think Margaret Bogie made an excellent point . . . . It wasn't a very fair setting to evaluate performance against a standard, particularly when the results go on the horse's record and affects the medallion of quality level. The evaluators themselves were upset with the conditions and wrote about the wind on their evaluation comments. ~~ The point here is that all the horses doing the draft test that day will have their performance record entered into the Record Book to be compared to other horses who've done the test under more favorable conditions. -- The whole point of the Evaluation performance testing is that the horse's results are judged against The Standard, and that everything else, as much as is possible, is a level playing field. --- If it were a question of choosing the horse that did the best test on that day, then that is a whole different ballgame. So, therefore, the fact that all the horses were working under the same conditions at Winona is not at all the point. What is the point is if all the horses at Winona were working under conditions as close as possible to horses doing that test at other Evaluations. -- As far as I know, no other Evaluation draft test has ever been done under such really adverse conditions. To make this fair, I suggest that owners be given the option of having their results made official or not. -- For those who choose not to have the results included in the Winona 2006 Evaluation, they would have the option of doing the test at a later date. I suuppose another option for the Evaluating Committee would be to note the awful conditions in the Record Book. -- There may be other and better options. Regards, Carol Rivoire The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona - Blue Earth & Libby a lesson to be learned.
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Evaluation at Winona "The weather caused us a few problems " In all due respect to the Evaluation Committee, the weather didn't cause just a minor inconvenience. The weather caused some disastrous results because there was no organized plans for bad weather. As Chairman of the Blue Earth Show, then reading about the issues over Libby, and then attending the Winona event, I personally have come to one conclusion. NO horse facility on this planet is PERFECT. Not one, no where, no how. I've shown at Washington National, Harrisburg International, QH Congress, Devon, National Western Stock Show, Ft Worth, and just about every state fairground east of the Rockies. Even Rolex has questionable footing this past spring and at the Olympics they had footing problems which eventually led to the death of a great jumping horse. The WEG had issues this year in Germany.. Blue Earth is not perfect. Libby is not perfect The Winona show was not perfect BUT and this is a big but guys...what makes the show work is the PEOPLE who TRY to make it work. Whatever is going on with you all over the Libby show, give the people who put this show on for what 20 some years a break.we went thru the same thing at Blue Earth - some want to move it everyone wanted the indoor at Winona, well I hope those whom attended saw that is not the answer - no million dollar facility will solve all the problems that come up at a show. Support your local clubs, leave your egos at home, quit trying to make MORE rules and shove your "knowledge" onto the poor fellow just enjoying their horses. It's a horse show - not a United Nations Summitenjoy the HORSE. With respect for those who try. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona - stallions and numbers per pictures and more
This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erin.it was my daughter, Anne, that was "the bride" next to your handsome husband:) Lots of "banter" about my daughter marrying a married man..haha! Larry Schultz took some photos of the "couple" with Thor (Heike's stallion) and I cannot wait to see them. Thor was a real ham:) Linda Baker Lottie From: Erin Yanish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Winona - stallions and numbers per pictures and more Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:39:42 -0800 (PST) This message is from: Erin Yanish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One of the greastest memories I will have of the Winona show - is this: Nathan, Pat Wolfe's nephew was sitting on Prydarson and I was right next to him - sitting on Hostar waiting to go into the English Pleasure class - side by side we were - and a lady pushing a baby carriage came right between and thru us...with baby..both horses just sorta looked and sighed..what great horses. Pat Holland I am not a crazy mom! (hahaha) I really wasn't paying attention and all of a sudden someone says, "Do you know what you just did?" Do we really expect anything less from these awsome animals? I think a lot goes out to thier trainers and owners for the marvelous job of working with thier animals so they are this safe to be around! I wrote a story a while back on how I would rest out in the pasture while pregnant (with the above baby), with our fjords. As a breed I believe they know when they can cut loose and play with you, but also when to be gentle and careful. And Mr. May As for the good looking couple in the Norwegian Wedding...I will have to play the bride from now on next to my hubby!! hahahahhaha Thanks for the great time at Winona everyone, we learned so much and loved being involved with the festivites! My husband Joe and I look forward to our fjord events! Erin and baby Gabriel - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona - stallions and numbers per pictures and more
This message is from: Erin Yanish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One of the greastest memories I will have of the Winona show - is this: Nathan, Pat Wolfe's nephew was sitting on Prydarson and I was right next to him - sitting on Hostar waiting to go into the English Pleasure class - side by side we were - and a lady pushing a baby carriage came right between and thru us...with baby..both horses just sorta looked and sighed..what great horses. Pat Holland I am not a crazy mom! (hahaha) I really wasn't paying attention and all of a sudden someone says, "Do you know what you just did?" Do we really expect anything less from these awsome animals? I think a lot goes out to thier trainers and owners for the marvelous job of working with thier animals so they are this safe to be around! I wrote a story a while back on how I would rest out in the pasture while pregnant (with the above baby), with our fjords. As a breed I believe they know when they can cut loose and play with you, but also when to be gentle and careful. And Mr. May As for the good looking couple in the Norwegian Wedding...I will have to play the bride from now on next to my hubby!! hahahahhaha Thanks for the great time at Winona everyone, we learned so much and loved being involved with the festivites! My husband Joe and I look forward to our fjord events! Erin and baby Gabriel - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Evaluation @ Winona
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Evaluation at Winona The NFHR 25th was an event to be very proud of -- from the NFHR Evaluation, Stallion Row, the Horse Show, An Evening of Dancing Fjords. As Co Chairperson of the Evaluation Committee, I would like to thank our Evaluators: Karen Cabic, Jim Havelhurst and Wayne Hipsley (Senior Evaluators) and Beth Beymer, Brian Jensen and Karen Maas for a job well done.They did an excellent job of educating us when they commented on each horse as they were brought back in and presented their ribbons. Thanks to all who participated. This was our largest evaluation to date with 49 Fjords doing 38 conformation tests and 60+ performance tests. The weather caused us a few problems but otherwise it was exciting to see how our Fjords keep getting better and the performance tests are something to be very proud of. Results will be published in the next Herald. Thanks also to those who watched-- we hope it was a great learning experience for you. A big thanks to all the volunteers who helped. I know I will miss many who helped but have to name a few. Alan Merrill who measured the height and cannon bone of all conformation horses and was also in charge of setting up the utility courses with many helpers including Chris Simino, Donna & Chet Thomas and Gary Holland. Sandy North, Else Bigton & PrudenceTruman stepped up to photo all the evaluation horses when the hired photographer had a problem. Roger Cabic, Genie Dethloff, Sharon Makurat and Mark McGinley where always there to lend a hand. A special thanks to Mike and Renee May for doing all the paperwork. I heard good comments from our European guests. Those who had been to America before where impress with the quality of our horses and with the level of our Evaluation performance tests. Sincerely, Sophie Fiedler The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona - stallions and numbers per pictures and more
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear List, I finally returned home from the Winona event - physically Sunday evening the 22nd. Mentally I really don't know where I am. Having left directly from Winona to take Hostar to his home with Melinda Springs in Bellevue Idaho. First and foremost I need to thank my committee of The Stallion Review - Rich and Nancy Hotovy, Mike and Susie Sadlon, Tyler and Dawn Schlickman, Bob Gudknecht and my husband Gary - for their unconditional support and outstanding horsemanship. It's the work behind the scenes that seems to go unnoticed, manly because it was so well organized, and the stallion parade and review went on without a flaw. The above mentioned people many times (through out the entire event - not just the stallion review) flew into "save" mode without recognition and utilized their innate horse sense to prevent mishaps. These are TRUE horsepeople and thankfully my friends. This "group" are the Blue Earth people - the people who are always ALWAYS there for you with heart and give of their time without glory. I also need to apologize to all of you whom trusted me with the stallion row event, that your presentations were not fully felt due to the poor sound system in place Thursday evening. You could only hear the music and scripts if you were in the barns or the bathrooms. After working on this event for 14 months I know all the work and time and effort you all put into your final presentations, and I was greatly disappointed that those watching could not hear what each of you wanted to convey. OK...on to the positives: As far as numbers on the stallions to know whom is whom. #415 is Hostar. He received his blue in conformation and he received a great deal of recognition by the foreign dignitaries as they were greatly impressed by his condition and health. It was a proud moment when the Norwegian Dignitary deemed Hostar the best stallion amounts the stallions presented in the NFHR Evaluation. Although not "official" - considering the Mother Country considered a Dutch stallion standing in North America the best, added a very interesting factor to the mix. #449 is Wood's Sven. A five year old stallion my husband and I purchased 3 months before Winona. We utilized what the NFHR Evaluation was designed for to tell us if this boy should stay intact and he did receive his Silver Medallion of Quality - of which both my husband and myself were very happy with. The star however at the event, in my humble opinion was SF ARVE, owned by and presented by Shiloh Simino and her husband Chris. Arve is a son of Hostar and just go look at picture #13 in the Stallion #3 section of Laurie's pictures..Shiloh drove out from New Hampshire to present with Hostar and he is absolutely one of the BEST Fjords, with the best owners I've ever known. Arve ended up with the Driving Championship and was high scored NFHR conformation gelding in the evaluation. Shiloh and Chris stayed at my place before and after the event and simply put - great - great people, what I feel make up the general membership of the NFHR. Honest, sincere and with a great love of their horse. One of the greastest memories I will have of the Winona show - is this: Nathan, Pat Wolfe's nephew was sitting on Prydarson and I was right next to him - sitting on Hostar waiting to go into the English Pleasure class - side by side we were - and a lady pushing a baby carriage came right between and thru us...with baby..both horses just sorta looked and sighed..what great horses. I need to thank two other people as well -Nancy Barmore and Kathy Monroe, who allowed me to house Hostar Sunday and Monday at their farm near Winona. Due to the ventilation problem at the Winona facility, Hostar began bleeding out the nose Saturday afternoon due to the ammonia in the barns. The Veterinarian confirmed this and he needed to be in fresh air, plus meds. I was greatly concerned because he them had to travel for 3 days - Hostar did arrive in Idaho healthy, and I am very grateful to Kathy and Nancy for their hospitality, care and concern - not only for Hostar but to myself as well. Lastly I have to thank Catherine Lassesen for her great skill in transporting Hostar, Melinda and myself to Bellevue, Idaho. Catherine is also a great horseperson with innate sense and care and concern for our animals. It was a privilege to spend the time I did with her and thank you - thank you Catherine, you know where my heart was left at and I sincerely appreciate how much of yours you gave to me. Hostar is home now.Melinda lives in one of the most beautiful areas in the country, with some of the best horse facilities in her area (Debbie McDonald trains near by). He will stand shipped cooled and frozen and I highly suggest breeding
Re: winona photos
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.livinginoz.smugmug.com/ Where are these photos? What is the website? I would love to see Sat evening performance photos. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: winona photos
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these photos? What is the website? I would love to see Sat evening performance photos. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: more photos from winona
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Question: are these fjords pictured in the Stallion Galleries all stallions? Or are some the Offspring of a represented stallion? Some look like mares to me. Just curious. I know that some stallions were not shown themselves, but were represented by their offspring, ex. Erlend and Leidjo. Does anybody have a list of the stallions and their "number" on their show tag so we can Identify them? The photos are wonderful, Laurie, thanks so much! Jean thanks to everyone who has looked at the photos. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
more photos from winona
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks to everyone who has looked at the photos. i got another gallery of stallions uploaded last night. i still have shots from the stallion show, plus some riding and driving and some miscellaneous stuff. have patience..i working my mouse to the bone to process LOLOL laurie, and oz, who has a new pasture mate (a mini) and hopes the little guy doesn't eat all HIS grass The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: winona photos
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Laurie, for posting those photos. For those of us who have to live vicariously through the internet. :^) Karen, in England. _ Find out how to win FREE Fuel at tradingpost.com.au - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpostcompetition%2Ecom%2Eau%2Ffuelgiveaway%3Freferrer%3Dplace11&_t=758874118&_r=HM_Tagline_Oct06&_m=EXT The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: winona photos
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GREAT PICTURES! I really enjoyed the slide show. Can't wait for the photos from the rest of the show! Thanks, Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where winter has finally come, 4" snow and 20 degrees. We will have snow on the ground until April. I have managed to upload some of the photos i took at winona, so far just the saturday night dancing with fjords program.wonderful show!! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
winona photos
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have managed to upload some of the photos i took at winona, so far just the saturday night dancing with fjords program.wonderful show!! i apologize for some of the images, as i have said the lighting in there is quite difficult, and since i was not in the ring, i had to use a telephoto and a high film speed setting. it caused some graininess in some, and others have a lot of motion.i kind of like that look, since it gives an idea of the speed they were moving. anyhow, i am still working on the stallions and the rest of the show. livinginoz.smugmug.com laurie, and oz The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
championships results Winona?
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can someone post championship winners at Winona. I left Sunday morning and would love to hear final results. -- Genie Dethloff The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Photos/Stories from Winona for next Fjord Herald
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had hoped to take lots and lots of photos at Winona -- and due to our busy schedule and the number of horses we were caring for, I didn't take a sinlge one!! I would have encouraged everyone to send photos for us to consider using for the Winter issue anyway, but now, I'm REALLY needing your help. I spoke with a few people individually while at the show, but I know there are many people I didn't speak with who took photos that might be fun to include. So as not to overload my computer, I'm going to ask that you submit the photos on a CD (or DVD) and mail them to us at: Beth Beymer/Sandy North 2012 Blue Mountain Ave Berthoud, CO 80513 PLEASE -- put your name on the CD, a contact phone number or Email address and please make it clear who gets the photo credit. Please include a note (signed and dated) with the CD that states you are giving the Fjord Herald permission to use your photos. And, don't wait -- do it soon so we have time to look at all the submissions without impacting the publication schedule. Secondly, I know there are some wonderful, touching, heartwarming, humorous stories from the show. (I can think of a few weather-related tidbits too!) If you have a story to share, send that along too. You can write it up as a short article, or just send us an Email. Depending on what we get, we'll figure out how to include them in the Winter issue. We are planning on devoting a significant part of the Winter issue to the 25th Anniversary event -- and the more good photos/stories we can include the better it will be! We'd really like to paint a picture for the NFHR members who didn't make it to the show and recreate it for those of us who were lucky enough to be there. If you have any questions -- drop me an Email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Sandy -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Fjord Herald Editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-651-3940 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: winona photos
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/20/06 1:55:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Laurie With also was there takign pictures, > she doesn't have them up yet, but her website is www.livinginoz.smugmug.com > Think Laurie even got a few of me, I just hate myself in photos!! ugh > patti jo, don't you realize that the minute you told me that, you opened yourself up to a TON of photo ops LOLOL.. thanks for the plug. i had to work like crazy to make up for taking time off last week, though it was certainly worth itwow, is right. and when i look at creative photos site, i see that they had the same problems with the lighting in the centerit's not an easy place to photograph, especially with a telephone lens. i will try to get some going this weekend. i DID get some from saturday night, so watch for those. when i first considered a fjord, i was at the minnesota horse expo booth, and linda lottie had a video of the starfire farm drill team. i was in awe then, never knowing i would get the chance to see it live!! ladies, you did a super job, and the entire evening was so much fun. makes me strive to get better and have more fun with my horse.and nice to meet everyone, too. laurie, and oz, who may go back to boot camp at another place, one where he's appreciated instead of being disliked. my original trainer never did like the fact that i bought him, and his injuring her daughter didn't help that much, so i don't think he was too happy this spring. he seems better now.i am still deciding on whether to sell him or not, so i want to board and ride him this winter to see if we can't really get a decent relationship going. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona for me - Thanks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Thanks to the dreamers, for without the dream, it never would have happened." This is a quote from Beth at Starfire Farm about the show at Winona... My question to all the folks that are quibbling back and forth in the PNFPG about moving the fall show is..."What is our dream? Do we have one? Will the dream be accomplished if we keep the show in Libby? Will the dream be accomplished if we move the show to Moses Lake? Or is there no dream at all? "Thanks to the dreamers, for without the dream, it never would have happened." Thanks Beth for sharing your thoughts on Winona. --David VanHoof Work smart, Play hard -- Original message -- From: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: Starfire Farm > > Winona, for me, was about community, grace, bravery and in believing in > a dream. > > Thanks to all of the movers and the shakers. Those who stepped up to the > plate, even though it might have looked like we weren't on a winning > team. Thanks to all who stuck it out. Those who pulled together to "get > 'er done", who, early on, saw beauty in an ugly duckling. > > Thanks to those people who, when I called them with an idea said, "I can > do that!" and took the ball and ran with it. > > Thanks for those long hours of teleconferences, travel, meetings and > sleepless nights.. > > Thanks to the dreamers, for without the dream, it never would have > happened. > > Thanks to the belivers, for coming to participate and for coming to > watch and enjoy, from around the world. > > Thanks, most of all, to our wonderful horses. Without them, there would > not be this wonderful, loving, caring community that extends across > borders, across oceans, across the reaches of time.. > > Pinch me, please. > > Beth > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona for me - Thanks
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Winona, for me, was about community, grace, bravery and in believing in a dream. Thanks to all of the movers and the shakers. Those who stepped up to the plate, even though it might have looked like we weren't on a winning team. Thanks to all who stuck it out. Those who pulled together to "get 'er done", who, early on, saw beauty in an ugly duckling. Thanks to those people who, when I called them with an idea said, "I can do that!" and took the ball and ran with it. Thanks for those long hours of teleconferences, travel, meetings and sleepless nights.. Thanks to the dreamers, for without the dream, it never would have happened. Thanks to the belivers, for coming to participate and for coming to watch and enjoy, from around the world. Thanks, most of all, to our wonderful horses. Without them, there would not be this wonderful, loving, caring community that extends across borders, across oceans, across the reaches of time.. Pinch me, please. Beth The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona
This message is from: "oe Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi: Just a quick note from the Wilson's. Winona was spectacular. The weather was terrible, but we all lived. It was wonderful to meet people and horses that we have only read about. I was on serious overload. Thank you everyone for being so kind and friendly to we who are hanger-ons. We love our Fjords but are not in the show mode. On behalf of Jeff Pedersen, we followed him home all the way from Winona til we parted ways at Echo junction in Utah. He went down Provo Canyon and we headed to Logan. Karen McCarthy was with us til after Cheyenne. Jeff's truck developed a hitch and we decided to board and stay in Cheyenne as did Karen and Jackie. It is a good thing because the wind and snow was horrendous. We left there Wednesday after the truck was fixed. It was a fairly mild problem that could have been a mess had he not got it fixed. We left about 12:00pm. Went as far as Rawlins and spent the night there. Next day off to home. When we left Jeff all seemed well and he should probably be home or close to it by now. Again, to all those who worked so hard on the Winona event. Thank you so much. It was wonderful. Pat Wilson Uff Da Fjords Hyde Park, UT The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona for me
This message is from: "Pat Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Patti Jo. I appreciate the good words about Prydarson. You are correct to say he has all four blue ribbons in the Evaluation Program. In fact, Prydarson is the only stallion in the record book with all four blue ribbons. He has 87 in Conformation, the highest score ever for a stallion in the record book; 88.25 in Advanced Draft; 86.88 in Advanced Riding; and, after a 9 pm Saturday night evaluation in Winona when everyone (except for the judges and Mike May) was at the banquet enjoying a wonderful meal, 91 in Advanced Driving. Also in Winona Prydarson was First Place Stallion in the age four and up class. Unfortunately I wasnt able to show him in the Championship Class Sunday morning because I had to be at work at 9:00 am Monday morning. I drove home 22 long hours nonstop. However, a blue ribbon in Reinsmanship and the Reserve Versatility Horse Award put the icing on the cake for Prydarson and me. Vanessa, my three year old Danish import, also had a great show. I only had her evaluated for Conformation and she received a blue ribbon. In the two and three year old Mare Halter Class she got a blue ribbon. In the Open Draft Classes, she received a blue for the Log Skid and a blue in the Farm Class. These two blues gave her the Championship for Draft. Vanessa also did well in the Maiden driving classes with a second in Cones and a third in Pleasure Driving. The Winona Show and Evaluation was the best ever. Meeting old friends (including horsy ones like Felix and Hostar) and making new friends from around the world was wonderful. The Stallion Presentation was exceptional with all presenters showcasing their stallions in such skilled and inventive ways. We even had Santa Claus. The Saturday evening performance was spectacular. Beth Beymer deserves congratulations. The acts were wonderful making the whole show a great hit. Thank you to everyone who came forward to help me throughout the show. You were very much appreciated. Lastly thank you to the organizers and the volunteers who put in endless hours of time and energy to make Winona the best Fjord horse event ever held in North America. Pat Wolfe The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: The Road Home from Winona
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of you ever get close to Riverside, CA and have a problem you are welcome at our home and barn. Our Fjords Regn and Duffers always enjoy Fjord company. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Google Alert- Fjord horse just sent me this story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=518820 Barb Middleage Spread Oregon our rains are starting. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I also forgot to write about the evaluation, in my last post to the list. Not only having the big celebration Sat. night, the Horse Show, Friday, Sat and Sunday. We also had a wonderful display of quality Fjords being evaluated. The judges were tough, which is a good thing. Hard to take as an owner some times, but hopefully it will keep our Fjords in high standards. The Europeans presented each exhibitor with a token of appreciation, a book mark and a wall hanging and picked a couple from each test and presented them with a small Fjord statue. That was really cool I thought. Some outstanding scores in the performance tests. I know Janet McNally got a 91 in the intro. draft, and an 85 in the advance with FCF Gyda. Have to say, a mare that was born here and I sold to her after starting her in riding, driving and draft. :-)Plus she also got an 89 with her 3 yr old filly, Helga in the intro. draft. Who was here this year being trained to ride, drive and do draft. That was really exciting to hear as Janet does "real" draft work with the girls at home and both Janet and her girls really know what they are doing. GREAT JOB JANET and girls! I'm pretty sure Prydarson got all blues now in all the evaluation tests. That is an awesome stallion. I'll let Pat W. tell his story about the whole show, cool stallion! I took a mare in for conformation and intro. riding. Owned by Randi Nielsen. Vor Onask received a 75 in conformation and an 82 in intro. riding. I was thrilled as this mare needs her warm up time and it was getting nerve racking wondering if we were gonna get it or not. Luckily they took a break and opened up the arena where i was able to get her focused and listening. She rode beautifully, THANK YOU ONASK and Randi! Takes a lot of work to get your horse ready for the evaluation and if you are not able to do it yourself ,it is really wonderful to hire out and get the job done. Sothat the horse can be shown to it's best ability. Hostar did outstanding in his tests. I'll let Pat H. tell her story as she is enroute out West to bring him home to Melinda Springs. She'll be home next week. Just hats off to him and Pat alike! Many many more wonderful horses and scores and it was really tough at this evaluation having to deal with the weather, limited warm up area, late hours. BUT...I would just like to say thank you to everyone that brought horses, it was very impressive to see that many Fjords being evaluated. Takes a lot of work, money, time and talent and I was thrilled to see so many tests being performed. Did I say I was glad to be home in my last email, I'm piled high in laundry. ugh! :-) Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SECONDS to Mike and Renee -the Show on Sat. Night at Winona was UNBELIEVE, THE BEST SHOW EVER and I am not just talking Best Fjord Show, I'm talking BEST PERFORMANCE BY ANY BREED. JUST AN AWESOME AWESOME SHOW. There are not words to describe how incredible it was to see such versatility, creativity, and best of all DISPOSITION in this breed. I was proud to be in it with my stallion, Fair Acres Ole, we did vaulting off of him with two teenage girls, Keelie Finnel and Megan Holschbach. They did all sorts of moves on him, even dismounting with spread eagles and round off's off of him, I'm VERY PROUD to own such a GREAT stallion to allow us to do WHATEVER we want to and with him. IT JUST MAKE YOU PROUD-watching this show- TO OWN A FJORD PERIOD! Beth Beymer and her crew were outstanding in all their performances, actually just as Mike said A the acts were outstanding, it was just amazing to watch. I don't wish to leave anyone out as EVERY ACT was GREAT!Several times people were giving standing ovations. If that was all we did all week it would have been well worth coming hours and hours just to see and/or be in this event. BUT.that was not all there was, the horse show had SEVERAL outstanding horses in the classes, from riding, to driving to draft, to dressage, it was wonderful to see top quality Fjord horses. I thought the stallion review was wonderful. Believe it ended up to be 27 stallions at Winona. That is quite the record, to all be in one place. They were AL VERY well behaved I might add too. AND let me tell you, we had TIGHT quarters with little to no warm up area, due to cold weather. Sowe all had to warm up with stallions, mares, geldings all together in tight quarters. You really would not have been able to tell which horses were the stallions, unless you looked underneath, they were all that quiet. The banquet was totally enjoyed by all, our European quests were the highlight of the evening. Educating us with their knowledge and joining us closer in our unity as their love for this breed is quite evident. I'm home now, grateful to be here, there is nothing like home, but am thrilled to have been a part of this great event. Lots of hard work went into it. Those in every aspect should know they did a job well done. It never could have come together without all those that volunteered. Some minor problems along the way, some Major weather glitches, BUT...as usual our horses put up with it all and EVERYONE should be proud to be a Fjord Owner! I know I am Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI Back to work tomorrow :-) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All, We are at Winona! Yippee! It is great to see old friends, new friends and to see all the wonderful Fjords. If you read this and you are within 2 days of Winona... you need to be here. WOW, what a collection of Fjords and all the great Fjord people. We have many International guests. The show on Saturday will be awesome. The stallion review tomorrow will be outstanding. Come if you can... it is very exciting and history is in the making. Catherine Lassesen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need Ride to Winona
This message is from: Melinda Springs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/6/06 12:29 PM, [Melinda Springs] wrote By any chance would anyone have an extra space in their trailer to haul a mare from the Southern Pines, N.C. area to Winona? If so please email me privately. Thank you Melinda Springs The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Rooms for Winona
This message is from: "Laura Kranzusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List, I have TWO rooms that I will not need for Winona. If anyone needs a room let me know and you can have them -Laura Kranzusch http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imag ine-msn.com/themes/vibe/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: MN or BUST...on to Winona!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everybody!! I, too, can hardly wait! We're hitting the road on Tuesday morning. Braveheart suspects the approach of a show, having had some experience in this area. Bogie just thinks we've been doing a lot of walk/trot practice for reasons that are not clear to him and he's trying hard to figure out this strange and puzzling neck-reining thing. Once you've shopped with Catherine be sure not to miss the western walk-trot class because I'm pretty sure Bogie and I will still be trying to work things out as we go through the in-gate! See you all in MN! Kay and Braveheart, the big show-off and Bogie, the somewhat confused love pony The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Good Fjord Tack for Sale @ Winona
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I will be bringing along a couple of saddles and a few other items of nice tack to Winona, to help defray the cost of journey + show expenses in general...These items will be in my trailer so if you are interested in checking anything out,or if you have any questions please let me know in advance via email before this Friday morning 10/6 or at the show between or after classes. I am sure many of you know that I like nice tack and I am sure you won't be disappointed in the quality of these items. I would really rather that Fjord people get a chance to own them rather than going the Anon. Ebay route.Thanks! 1. HUBERTUS 17" AP SADDLE made in Denmark, a really good all around/all purpose English saddle w/ a dressage tendency. Black leather w/ suede on the fronts of flaps. Very wide through the gullet and back, it can accomodate the no withers/super wide backed fjords very well. Good using shape, sold w/o fittings. Super trail saddle. $450. 2. LEN BABB WADE TREE SADDLE w/ post horn and high 'spoon' cantle w/ rawhide wrap. Made 4 years ago, this saddle is in great shape and has not been ridden in heavily. It has beautiful 4" wide brass covered bell bottom stirrups, Blevins stirrup hardware, removeable bucking rolls, and a 15" seat. Really a very nice buckaroo style saddle. It will be sold less the handmade horsehair girth. My friend Jacqueline will be showing my mare Idelle in it at the show. $1,700. Here is info on the maker: http://www.lenbabbsaddles.com/pages/saddle_shop/about.htm Here is a photograph of what the saddle looks like, except it is heavily tooled in a medium basketweave pattern : http://www.lenbabbsaddles.com/images/cardsuit_saddle.jpg 3. COWPERSON TACK HEADSTALL + BREASTCOLLAR SET Natural Hermann Oak leather w/ scalloped cheek and shoulder pieces, adorned with traditional silverplate (alpaca) conchos that are nicely graduated in size. The Breastcollar has a large center concho. The headstall is a one ear style w/ silver on the ear loop, and does not have a troatlatch,so it s/b only used w/ a curb bit. I bought this directly from them over 6 years ago. $160. You can see the quality of their more recent work here: http://cowpersontack.com/ 4. FJORD HORSEHAIR MECATE Really special! Made from mane hair I collected from my babies first mane trimming. This is one of the 4 sets of reins I had made by Frankie Dougal of Jordan Valley, Oregon, and is definitley a collector's piece if you collect braided horsehair, but this is very special as it is made from Fjord horse hair! It is about 21' long and is about 3/4" in diameter $180. You can read about Frankie here: http://www.westernfolklife.org/site/batr/tools_braided_artists_hh.php#FrankieDougal I will also have a couple of other smaller items that i will pack at the last minute. See you in Winona, ya'll! Kmac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Folks at Beaver Dam Farm getting ready for Winona.
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- Jaimie and I are coming to Winona. We'll be doing a presentation of Gjest's offspring in the Stallion Presentation program, and right now I'm frantically writing the commentary on Gjest and the wonderful horses that will be representing him.. -- Starfire Farm will be there with BDF Obelisk (Gjest x Stine - Ene daughter) , BDF John Arthur (Gjest x Holly - Solar daughter ) , and BDF Magnum (Gjest x Holly - Solar daughter) . Sheila Tweedie will be there showing BDF Nora (Gjest x Maryke - Hjerter-Knaeght daughter ) . Kathy Johnson will be showing her stallion, WW Reidar (Gjest x Ranka - Sebastian daughter ) . --- Kathy Spiegel will be showing her stallion, BDF Titian (Gjest x Maryke - Hjerter-Knaeght daughter ). --- Curt Pierce will show Ironwood Blitzen (Gjest x SS Saska - Holunder daughter) for Ironwood Farm. -- I have a feeling I've forgotten somebody, and if so, I apologise. All of us at Beaver Dam Farm are tremendously grateful to all these owners for their efforts to represent our grand old stallion. This week our trainer, Jaimie Benoit and I will work to be sure we have photos and DVDs on all our sale horses. Even after an excellent sale season this summer, we still have a few very nice horses to offer. -- These include the following . . . . A yearling stud colt sired by Gjest who just might turn out to be a big-time winner. His name is FRF BARNIKEL, and this horse certainly has the breeding to be a great stallion. -- He's sired by GJEST out of the imported Dutch mare, Ruth, who was sired by MYRSTEIN, an ELITE stallion in Holland. . -- As you'll see for yourself during the Gjest's Presentation, Gjest produces athletes. Gorgeous horses with superb movement and an incredible work ethic. -- I w as told that back in 1985 while watching Gjest at the biggest Fjord show in Holland. One of Gjest's stallion handlers said to me . . . "Gjest has great movement and great athletic ability. He also has a tremendous work ethic. He passes these things on to his sons and daughters." -- Myrstein was a stalliion very much like Gjest. -- He was built in the same mode. Bob van Bon often said . . . "We just can't find stalliions like Gjest and Myrstein anymore." -- What he meant was stallions with strength and bone. Stallions that could work all day and do it again the next day and the next. -- Stallions with great heart to do the job. -- Stallions that stayed healthy and strong and fertile into old ge. -- Those stallions are few and far between nowadays. FRF BARNIKEL carries these rare genes. He is for sale as a breeding stallion. -- This is a rare opportunity for one of you to acquire the possibility of owning a stallion who combines the best of bloodlines on both sides of the pedigree. -- It's a particularly rare opportunity because the price isn't overwhelming. The owner, Sheila Tweedie from New Jersey is an absolutely knowledgeable and dedicated horsewoman. She is more interested that FRF Barnikel (Barni) go to the right home than she is in any money she might make from the sale. -- Of course, such a well-bred stud colt is not going to be given away, but I'm trying to tell everybody that for this owner, price is not the priority. A stud colt with such a pedigree needs time to grow up. -- The strength represented in this special pedigree is not to be taken lightly. -- The combination of genes (Gjest and Myrstein) could produce a truly spectacular stallion. -- Beaver Dam Farm and Barni's owners are looking for the right situation for him. This would be a farm or individual that has the experience and seriousness of purpose to bring on a young stallion, allowing him to mature, and to eventually prove himself. -- So, if you are that type of person , please come to our stall and talk to Jaimie and Carol. Come and look at the DVD we'll have available on Barni and other sale horses. ~~ Other horses we currently have available are -- VALENA, a lovely Flotren daughter. 6 years old. Absolutely as bombproof and reliable as any horse can be. -- She rides nicely now and is 100% safe for the most timid beginner rider. -- Valena has the kind of attitude and temperament that will make her a wonderful driving horse. Valena is a proven broodmare. PEVENSIE - a Caspain daughter. Caspain is a son of the elite stallion, Myrstein. Pevensie is 6 years old and a proven broodmare.-- This is the easiest horse to ride in the world. She's absolutely dependable on the trail in a halter with leadropes. She's wonderful bareback. -- You can't get braver or more laidback than Pevensie. BRENNIN
Hotel room in winona
This message is from: "Randy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello- I am looking for one room/2 adults: check-in 10/12 and check-out 10/15! If anyone is canceling a reservation...I would appreciate the "heads-up"!! Kathy Johnson Woodpecker Woods, home of WW Reidar Montrose, MN 763-972-8119 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Rooms in Winona
This message is from: Melinda Springs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the last minute my husband has decided to stay home rather than go to Winona. Too many critters here to take care of. If anyone would like to share a room with me at the Americinn please email me privately. I also have an extra banquet ticket. Really getting excited about Winona. Melinda Springs The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Arena footing - Winona
This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The indoor show arena, indoor warm up area, outdoor show arena and outdoor warmup area have very good footing. Between the barn and the outdoor arena and warmup area is gravel. If you plan to use only those areas with good footing you will be ok without shoes - but if you plan on driving on the gravel, shoes might be a good idea. For what its worth - my horses that are being shown are coming in with shoes. Susan The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
footing at Winona
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My question is: does anyone know what the surface is like in the arenas/practice areas? The indoor arena has EXCELLENT footingvery very good mixture, I am not sure what the outdoor arenas have as when I was there it was covered with snow. I am certain you will be on gravel moving about inbetween - I recommend shoeing, the horses I'm brining will all be shod. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Rooms in Winona
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am about to cancel a room at the Holiday Inn. If you need a room, let me know and I will tell you when I cancel so you can get the vacant room Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona and Erlend
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can you take him yourselves in a big trailer all his own, and stop for a day or two every other day? I gather stops are really big in keeping them healthy. Transport is known to reduce immunity, to the point where they use transport at vet schools to induce EPM so they can study EPM. IF they do not transport the horses, they cannot "give them" EPM. Gail .net/~kffjord
Winona and Erlend
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi again, In light of what we are finding out about Erlend, I have to take a long look at Winona. I expect he will be much improved by October, but I still have to consider the long ride. Does anyone know of an Air Ride Transport company, and have a guess about cost? Or is anyone from this coast planning to use one to go to Winona? Or does anyone have any creative ideas about reducing the stress on limbs and psyche? Why couldn't he have waited till November to get old? Bye, Peg Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord
Re: Judging at Winona at the 25th
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea! Peg Knutsen - Original Message - From: "Susan Cargill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Judging at Winona at the 25th This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm happy to announce that Wayne Hipsley was able to change his plans and will be joining us as a judge and evaluator for the 25th Anniversary Celebration. Susan Cargill - Longtheway Farm
Judging at Winona at the 25th
This message is from: Susan Cargill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm happy to announce that Wayne Hipsley was able to change his plans and will be joining us as a judge and evaluator for the 25th Anniversary Celebration. Susan Cargill - Longtheway Farm
Re: trailpooling to Winona
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the Yahoo group called and do you need an invite to join? This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, Just for your information. There is a yahoo support group for those trying to team up on getting to Winona and/or needing help or giving help. As we get closer to the grand date and time, I am sure it will be a very busy support group. I for one have offered my yard the Tue. or Wed before and Sun. or Mon after for anyone going this way. I am about 3 or 4 hr. from Winona. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
trailpooling to Winona
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, Just for your information. There is a yahoo support group for those trying to team up on getting to Winona and/or needing help or giving help. As we get closer to the grand date and time, I am sure it will be a very busy support group. I for one have offered my yard the Tue. or Wed before and Sun. or Mon after for anyone going this way. I am about 3 or 4 hr. from Winona. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Winona motels
This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I called the Quality Inn last week and made a reservation for a double room. I am hoping to find someone to share with me? I hope some people will stay there because I'm gonna need a ride. I had no trouble making a reservation with them for the NFHR event. My reservation runs Wed. thorugh Monday for now -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 An unconscious people, an indoctrinated people, a people fed only on partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, a people made morbidly obese in mind and spirit by the junk food of propaganda, is less inclined to put up a fight, to ask questions and be skeptical. That kind of orthodoxy can kill a democracy or worse. - Bill Moyers, National Conference on Media Reform St. Louis, Missouri May 15, 2005
25th anniversary show in Winona
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello to all members of the NFHR. I was just at the winter meeting in Winona and the hotels/motels are filling up fast for the Oct. show. The Best Western is already full for that time, but there are at least 3 others in Winona waiting for bookings. Otherwise it is the small motels and traveling to other sort of nearby towns. I believe you can get all the phone numbers from the registry site. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
winter meeting in Winona
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi to all traveling here, Yes. Do drive careful, but we do have snowplows and plenty of salt/sand. It won't scare me off and for those who may want to stay home, happy sleighing. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
