RE: Fjords @ Billings Auction
This message is from: Carol Pastore cpastor...@msn.com Do you have pictures? There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse. Surtees, circa 800 A.D. Carol Pastore M.A., Director Bridges of Health Inc.'sChallenge Colorado Therapeutic Riding Program 0536 Swede Lane Monte Vista, Colorado 81144 ~Speech Pathologist~~NARHA Instructor~ ~NARHA Registered Therapist ~ From: weeg...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Fjords @ Billings Auction Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 05:15:52 + This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I am X-posting this message...It appeared on the CD-List tonight. I have no connection at all with these horses, just trying to get them advertised... Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:13:34 -0600 From: wendy bauwens wcbauw...@gmail.com Subject: Fjords going to Billings Livestock Sale Hi All! I am writing to tell you about some fjords who will be at the Billings Sale (BLS) at the end of the month. If you all remember the talk (last spring, or the spring before) about the lot of Fjords from NE MT and NW ND who went to a sale in Williston, ND, you will remember these horses. They are off on their next sale journey. A wonderful woman, Chris Dove, has put forth quite a bit of work to place 5 of the 8 horses. If you can be of any help, that would be great! The horses remaining are as follows: Skor's Knut Ova 1995 Brown Dun Stallion NFHR #RBS-1-1699-S Skor's Laura Ova, 1998 Brown Dun Mare NFHR #RBS-L-2866-M Josie, 2002 Brown Dun Mare NFHR NFHR #RBS-2660-M The horses can be purchased prior to the sale at a very low price, plus board, and transport. You can contact Chris directly and she can help to provide more information. Chris can be reached at: gemap...@aol.com (307) 431-5603. Chris is located in the Worland, WY area, as are the horses. Hope you can help! Wendy Bauwens Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjords @ Billings Auction
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Carol, I need to re-iterate that I have no connection to this information other than I re-posted it from a different mailing list, the Carriage Driving List (or CD-List) You can see one head shot of the stallion, Stors Knut Ova ...I Googled the owners names in ND and they had a (out-dated) ad on an online horse site. Here it is:http://www.horsefinders.com/horse-for-sale-Fjord-in-SD_71059_11.html This picture accompanying info doesn't tell me a lot other than the horse is not trained, not groomed and s/b gelding (JMPO) Best to contact Chris in Wyoming for more pertinent info. Karen in Oregon From: cpastor...@msn.com Do you have pictures? From: weeg...@hotmail.com This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I am X-posting this message...It appeared on the CD-List tonight. I have no connection at all with these horses, just trying to get them advertised... Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:13:34 -0600 From: wendy bauwens wcbauw...@gmail.com Subject: Fjords going to Billings Livestock Sale Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjords @ Billings Auction
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I am X-posting this message...It appeared on the CD-List tonight. I have no connection at all with these horses, just trying to get them advertised... Date:Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:13:34 -0600 From:wendy bauwens wcbauw...@gmail.com Subject: Fjords going to Billings Livestock Sale Hi All! I am writing to tell you about some fjords who will be at the Billings Sale (BLS) at the end of the month. If you all remember the talk (last spring, or the spring before) about the lot of Fjords from NE MT and NW ND who went to a sale in Williston, ND, you will remember these horses. They are off on their next sale journey. A wonderful woman, Chris Dove, has put forth quite a bit of work to place 5 of the 8 horses. If you can be of any help, that would be great! The horses remaining are as follows: Skor's Knut Ova 1995 Brown Dun Stallion NFHR #RBS-1-1699-S Skor's Laura Ova, 1998 Brown Dun Mare NFHR #RBS-L-2866-M Josie, 2002 Brown Dun Mare NFHR NFHR #RBS-2660-M The horses can be purchased prior to the sale at a very low price, plus board, and transport. You can contact Chris directly and she can help to provide more information. Chris can be reached at: gemap...@aol.com (307) 431-5603. Chris is located in the Worland, WY area, as are the horses. Hope you can help! Wendy Bauwens Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjords @ SFJ auction
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com It was absolutely fantastic weather today, and my day off from work, so i had to pry myself away from much needed yard chores to go down to the fairgrounds to see the sights at the Small Farmers Journal auction. The great weather, green lawns and lotsa rusty implements really went together well. I saw quite a few items like hay rakes and mowers being loaded by eager 20-somethings with lots of dreadlocks. Umm, work ahead boys! On the way to the horse paddocks behind the main arena, I walked through about 20 vendors scattered over the other lawns and under one livestock building. The harness vendors were mostly selling cheap harnesses, except for one vendor. I gave her an atta girl for having nicely made, fairly priced new harness. For the life of me I cannot remember the vendors company, but they were from the Wilamette Valley. One guy was selling nothing but bundles of rusty, dusty disgusting harnesses and rusty bits of vehicles and splintered and weathered wooden parts, maybe to people wanting to decorate? Hope they don't try to use it! Then i bumped into some driving buddies from waaay back,(like 20 years ago, we met in 1989!), and I couldn't believe I remembered their names, except for one woman, who it turns out, catch-gatored for me on the fly at a little CDE about 7 years ago. It was fun catching up - and I found out one of them had moved to Klamath Falls which relatively speaking is not too far away from me about 4 hrs from Madras. After I finally made it back to the corrals, I guessed not all the cataloged horses had made it in. Weird, because the website info stated no horses could be brought in after Friday 4/17. Maybe people just disregard this? Anyway, there were some really odd looking Gypsy Vanner x Paint crosses Big heads, no backs, short necks that would make a short fjord neck look elegant. Oh, but they had color - but not enuf to hide the unattractiveness. There was one little white pony who I bequeathed my apple core to, he was so cute, but raggedy/shaggedy. I suppose his main virtue was that he was broke to drive, as the SFJ folks were adamant about not accepting any but driving, or driving work bred horses in their auction because the pleasure horse market has collapsed (per their sales info). The 4 horses consigned by Joel Harmon looked happy to be at the auction - I loved their open, expressive faces. Compared to my horses, these guys are definitely much lighter in weight build, but they were not skinny per se. Being early spring, they were not slicked out and probably hadn't been worked very much this year. Not an ounce of fat on any of them though. Their work resumes makes all of them really suitable for just about anything. I really think these guys ARE 'bombproof'. They have worked so hard so far in their lives that they respect standing and being patient, and not goofing off. When I stopped 'bye they were standing in their pen being groomed trimmed. They were not tied, they stood patiently while a woman worked on each of them. Sweet boys, they deserve good homes. (My fingers are x'ed) Everyone was oohing and aahing over Larry Boe's grey stallion. He's a really nice fellow, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for big $$ Very flashy. I have to work tomorrow, but will meet up with Pam Garza and Shawna Smith from over in the valley', and maybe they can fill us in on how the auction went. Nite all! :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
4 Fjords selling /auction/tomorrow
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com Saw this tonight. Sorry for the late notice. I know nothing about these Fjords other than what I am reporting I read. Original ad in MPLS. MN. Craigslist with photo Pine City, MN. Sat. Heidelbergers Auction ( 320-6291122 ) 4 Norwegian Fjords to be auctioned off with NO HOLDs. This means that they will be subject to selling for meat prices. 2 colts, 2 fillys, all turning yearlings. May / June. Brown duns. all registered * * Mike could hopefully verify. 80 yr old woman in poor health, auction house is helping her out and picked them up to sell for her. NO HOLDS BIDDING, they will sell for any price. Lisa ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
NFHR Fjords/ Waverly Auction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someones shopping for some NFHR Fjords, the Waverly, Iowa auction has listed some Fjords from a South Dakota breeder. The catalog lists them being sold on March 29th, 2 days from now. 2 Stallions : Reterra Gustaf '96, Brown Dun stallion, 14.3. ( Hamar X Fair Acres Lily ) picture is really cute, says easy to breed pasture or in-hand, good at home or away at shows. * has 15 NFHR offspring. Fair Acres Garth 95', Brown Dun stallion. ( Anvil's Jon X Fair Acres Tessa ) * has 20 NFHR offspring. ** out of a Leidjo son and an Anvil's Steinfin daughter. ** ** Mares : QFF Amanda, ' 2001 mare. Bred / halter broke. ( NFH Jocko X QFF Linnea ) QFF Dahlia, ' 2000 mare. Bred to Garth. ( NFH Jocko X QFF Linnea ) QFF Anna, ' 2001 mare. Bred to Garth for spring foal. ( NFF Jocko X Disa Darlynn ) QFF Nyra, ' 2000 mare. Bred to Garth for spring foal. ( NFF Jocko X Disa Darlynn ) *** I know nothing about these Fjords except nice bloodlines and looks like 2 good studs and 2 for 1 mares. Breeder is listed as : Johnson's ( Fjord Acres ) Hartford, SD. Lisa ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: NFHR Fjords/ Waverly Auction
This message is from: Debbie Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like some nice stock to me - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: NFHR Fjords/ Waverly Auction This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someones shopping for some NFHR Fjords, the Waverly, Iowa auction has listed some Fjords from a South Dakota breeder. The catalog lists them being sold on March 29th, 2 days from now. 2 Stallions : Reterra Gustaf '96, Brown Dun stallion, 14.3. ( Hamar X Fair Acres Lily ) picture is really cute, says easy to breed pasture or in-hand, good at home or away at shows. * has 15 NFHR offspring. Fair Acres Garth 95', Brown Dun stallion. ( Anvil's Jon X Fair Acres Tessa ) * has 20 NFHR offspring. ** out of a Leidjo son and an Anvil's Steinfin daughter. ** ** Mares : QFF Amanda, ' 2001 mare. Bred / halter broke. ( NFH Jocko X QFF Linnea ) QFF Dahlia, ' 2000 mare. Bred to Garth. ( NFH Jocko X QFF Linnea ) QFF Anna, ' 2001 mare. Bred to Garth for spring foal. ( NFF Jocko X Disa Darlynn ) QFF Nyra, ' 2000 mare. Bred to Garth for spring foal. ( NFF Jocko X Disa Darlynn ) *** I know nothing about these Fjords except nice bloodlines and looks like 2 good studs and 2 for 1 mares. Breeder is listed as : Johnson's ( Fjord Acres ) Hartford, SD. Lisa ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjords at auction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reading patti jo's note makes me realize what a great resource it is to have people do what she, and others do, as far as selling horses for others. it just makes it a lot easier and safer than just picking one off the net or at a sale. she knows the background of the horse, what's it's personality is like and what to expect. while she may connect, she doesn't have the same emotional attachment to the sale as the owner might and therefor can make a better choice. i know when i was selling my QH it was hard for me to determine whether or not he was going to a good home. someone who was able to ride him made an offer, and i accepted it. when i went to buy oz patti jo opened her home to me, and let me see him as he was, in a comfortable place for him. she got to see kind of what i was like (hmm, still surprises me that she let me take him home LOL) and if we would be a good match. and let me tell you, even though i know i don't ride as much as i should, i really love that big guy. he's just so easy to have around, and quite the clown..as i always say to her, what's not to love? laurie, and oz the fuzzy fuzzy dirty dirty
fjords from auction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i mentioned there were some fjords at auction here in central minnesota. we have a woman and her daughter that go to auctions and buy horses to resell, and they have gotten some of the fjords. if anyone is interested, go to the website: http://horsesmidwest.com/ and do a search for ad #15238. it's a yearling gelding selling for $1500. they have sent in the registration papers. i would love to go get him, but i just sold my quarter horse and need to find homes for a couple others. i think hubby would kill me if i brought him home. LINDA, HIS NAME IS SVEN!!! laurie central minnesota
mn fjords at auction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] there is a herd disperal of fjords here in minnesota tommorow at the verndale auction house. i have no idea where they are coming from. this is the website.âhttp://www.rjhorsesales.com/current-catalog.htm if you click on the online catalog 5/16 horses it lists their pedigrees. i hate to see them (or any horse) sold this way. laurie with central minnesota
Re: fjords at auction
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just looked up these mares in the NFHR pedigree site...They are full sisters, 9 and 10. Looks like good bloodlines too. Hope somebody good gets them! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still mild for mid October, but getting cooler by the day! Still above freezing! Looks like the mares stud colt I've been trying to sell for a friend will go through the Hermiston, OR auction this Sat. The yard is located at exit 180 on I-84 in Oregon. The mares, Blaken Marikka, are NFHR registered but will go through as unregistered because the original papers are lost won't be replaced in time for the auction. The colt isn't registered yet. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fjords at auction
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is from Joel Harman. Looks like the mares stud colt I've been trying to sell for a friend will go through the Hermiston, OR auction this Sat. The yard is located at exit 180 on I-84 in Oregon. Coggins health certificates are in order. Knock yourself out. The colt IS NOT stallion quality but the flies just quit this week I will not cut him now as he will be somewhere else this time next week. The mares, Blaken Marikka, are NFHR registered but will go through as unregistered because the original papers are lost won't be replaced in time for the auction. The colt isn't registered yet. If you just can't stand to see them go through the auction make us an offer we can't refuse. Because we have all slept since the last time I posted about these horses they are good on farm machinery wagons. Have been worked 4 abreast they have been ridden some but not under saddle. They wear 21 collars but Blakken needs a pad under her's. They are heavy boned brown duns. Both are open. Bye Joel Harman Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Waverly auction, while massively marketed, also can be a bit tense as there are a large number of meat buyers that attend. The Waverly auction has actual kill pens on the premises. Because of the high number of meat buyers, the large number of Fjords going through this auction, and the condition of some of these Fjords, some of us have been concerned, and therefore, decided to help market these Fjords. Personally, I believe we are helping Hamlett, not putting him down. We are requesting everyone that attends this auction to wear a bandana so we can all recognize each other. Also, the majority of the meat buyers are allowed to actually be in the ring at Waverly, so this will help all of us figure out what meat prices are and also, be able to observe to make sure none of them are able to keep a bid on any of these Fjords. Good for you. While I don't find anything wrong with somebody buying a horse at auction (admirable more like it) it is important to recognize that there is the potential, at some auctions, for horses to go to slaughter. I was blythely naive and innocent when I bought my first horse, a beautiful, sweet Arab. My trainer started taking me with her to the Friday night auctions in Southern California. I was so thrilled, all the tack, horses, action. It was heavenly. Till she burst my bubble. And said Listen for every time a horse is sold to Buyer # (whatever the number is). He's the meat buyer. I was horrified and didn't believe her. Till I found that the horses that were old, anti-social, or otherwise undesirable, and some horses that were pretty nice too were sure 'nuff, going to that specific buyer. My eyes were opened that day. And I've learned about the seamy side of the horse business. At the same time I worked some of the thoroughbred auctions, at Hollywood Park and Del Mar. Those auctions were class operations and I knew not one of those babies were going to the knackers. :) Pamela A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html;Northern Holiday Horses/A
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Amy, I guess I just don't understand why some folks are getting so worked up and putting someone down because, for whatever the reason, they have made the I do not believe anyone is putting someone down, in this instance, Hamlett, for selling his Fjords through the Waverly auction. We all have been working very hard to help promote these Fjords as there are a large number going through and many could be considered high risk. Hopefully, all of the promotion of the Waverly catalog and flyer, plus our discussion on this list will ensure all these Fjords will find a good home. The Waverly auction, while massively marketed, also can be a bit tense as there are a large number of meat buyers that attend. The Waverly auction has actual kill pens on the premises. Because of the high number of meat buyers, the large number of Fjords going through this auction, and the condition of some of these Fjords, some of us have been concerned, and therefore, decided to help market these Fjords. Personally, I believe we are helping Hamlett, not putting him down. We are requesting everyone that attends this auction to wear a bandana so we can all recognize each other. Also, the majority of the meat buyers are allowed to actually be in the ring at Waverly, so this will help all of us figure out what meat prices are and also, be able to observe to make sure none of them are able to keep a bid on any of these Fjords. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack Accessories White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 FAX: 775-383-6813 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords United Equine Foundation http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm Lynda C. Welch President, PMU and Breed Specific Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:24:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there? I have never seen this type of harness at our sale. Most of the harness we get is from reputable harness makers such as Big Sky, Midwest, Sampson, and Miller Harness. I'm not saying that the cheap harness couldn't make it's way here, but we do try to encourage the quality makers. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there? I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180. Got it home and the tug fell off the backstrap. LOL! I just bought a pony-size bridle for training, wanted something cheap and got it. Funny, most sellers try to disguise the fact that their stuff comes from India, but this bridle arrived with a big sticker saying MADE IN INDIA. Later my roommate came home and said, What's that smell? Did one of the cats pee on the carpet? g I explained how leather is tanned in India... Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html;Fjordings West/A
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] GAIL RUSSELL wrote: I would never buy a horse at our local livestock auction without considering the very real possibility that it is a rogue horse, or ill or lame in some way. In Pennsylvania there are laws regarding horses going to auctions. If a horse is sent to the auction that is lame or is too thin, the owner can be fined. Not just the owner but also the hauler that took it to the auction. The same laws apply while being ridden or driven in the public. If you get stopped on the road with a lame horse, you pay a fine and must have him trucked to your place or to a vet. This law was passed about 2 years ago, I haven't heard of any cases where it actually happened. But it could easily have that I'm not aware of. Joe Glick Glick Family Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] There must have been 30 or 40 sets that day. It is the same stuff they sell on E-bay. It was really all that was available other than draft harness and one or two other decent harnesses. I was advised to buy it by someone who should have recognized it was dangerous. I hate to think where the rest of it is! Gail
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there? I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180. Got it home and the tug fell off the backstrap. Not fixable. It was an accident waiting to happen! GAil Guess you can't expect much in the way of a harness for that price. I don't recall seeing any like you describe but maybe when you're looking for leather that's all you see =))) They do have a great variety of just about anything you could think of that's horse related. Ruthie, nw mt
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there? I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180. Got it home and the tug fell off the backstrap. Not fixable. It was an accident waiting to happen! GAil Regards harnesses sold there--- a few years ago we bought a new custom made Fjord set of harness there (used once or twice) and it was in mint condition and fit like gloves! They have plenty to choose from! The Sisters area is beautiful and the folks are wonderful! Guess you can tell we're SFJ fans. =))) Ruthie Bushwhacker Fjords Gene and Ruthie Bushnell http://www.libby.org/~bushnell Troy, Montana
Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also...I am curious as to how the SFJ auction is run. Are the horses screened? Do people have a chance to really pre-view them well? Gail == The Small Farmer's Journal Auction in Sisters, OR, (this year 4/25-27) is in a quality auction class of it's own! Directed by Lynn Miller, author of the best books that have been written on draft hitching, it is a first class operation! Last year while attending this huge well run auction, I often visited the area where there were fine looking Fjords for sale waiting for auction. They were all good specimens and well cared for, and there were several family type interested parties eagerly inspecting for purchase. Additionally, it is a great social occasion with like-minded folks, as well as a huge bazaar of every kind of thing horse folks are interested in. Remember--- some of the firest artwork and collectibles in the world are sold by means of auction! Regards harnesses sold there--- a few years ago we bought a new custom made Fjord set of harness there (used once or twice) and it was in mint condition and fit like gloves! They have plenty to choose from! The Sisters area is beautiful and the folks are wonderful! Guess you can tell we're SFJ fans. =))) Ruthie Bushwhacker Fjords Gene and Ruthie Bushnell http://www.libby.org/~bushnell Troy, Montana
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This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are auctions, and then there are auctions. I think it depends on how well-promoted the auctions are, and how well regulated. I know the draft community quite often trades horses at auction and that one does not automatically assume that a horse in the auction has some kind of problem. I would never buy a horse at our local livestock auction without considering the very real possibility that it is a rogue horse, or ill or lame in some way. On the other hand, the California Red Bluff Bull and Gelding Sale every January has a fairly detailed system of vet and performance checks.much like an evaluationand then the horses are auctioned off. It takes two or three days to do everything for all 150 horses, and lots of them are sifted. People are not buying these horses for meat. The lame ones, or bad actors are simply not run through the auction. I think it IS possible that some of these horses flunked the x-ray portion of a vet check when they were being sold as trained reiners or cutting horsesthere is some fine breeding and training that goes through that auction that the owners receive almost nothing for. I had an interesting experience with the Turlock Draft Horse and Equipment Auction...where I know a pair of Unrau-bred geldings went very cheap. (They were ill at the timeI traced their history...they had been sold as a lot by a divorcing woman to a friend, on the stipulation, I believe, that he find decent homes for them...he took them straight to the auction, at which point they had shipping fever and unloaded them at a profit. As I remember, they went slightly over meat prices...in the middle of the stock market boom. BTW...they found good homes.) I bought Whodini from that auction, on impulse, at a different time. He was no-saled, as he was going for little more than meat price. That year there was a big hay shortageso stock was going cheap. However, when I went to pick him up from a well-respected draft horse breeder I was told that the Martins auction quality was not as good as it had once been (maybe because of the hay shortage) . (BTW...Whodini is the most sought-after horse in my herdI could have sold him several times over since then.) What I saw confirmed this. There were several horses there that were biting at people...viciously. ONe shopper turned her back on a big draft horse. He was tied in a tie stall, and she was at his head. He reached over and took a bite out of her back. I did not see it, but heard the scream. I know she had a BAD bruise. SEveral more horses tried to bite at me. Even when the horses are shown at these events, they are often in situations where they cannot be properly shown. Often the teamsters resort to theatrics that are not fair to the horse. Years earlier I had gone to the Turlock auction. There were imported, untrained French-bred Percheron mares going for meat prices. They had been pulled straight from pasture and put in the sale. Most were pregnant, but they had been pasture-bred, possibly with more than one stallion having access to the mares...such that the off-spring were going to have registration problems. A well-known breeder had become ill (probably chronic heart problems that take their toll slowly, over years) and was doing a dispersal sale. They were selling for $400. The owner was heart-broken, and, I believe, no-saled most of them when he saw what was happening. They were beautiful horses. I almost brought one home to put in my carport in Marin County! It was so sad. In a waythe best outcome is to try to see to it that Fjords that are sent to auction are either marketed properly before the auction, or go through an auction that allows people some kind of assurance that they are not problem horses. Hmm...I would be interested to know if people are selling horses right after the Fjord evaluations...when the shoppers have had a good chance to see them in their best light. Also...I am curious as to how the SFJ auction is run. Are the horses screened? Do people have a chance to really pre-view them well? And finally, be careful about buying harness from these auctions if you do not know what you are looking at. Get help from someone knowledgeable. Gail
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/26/2003 7:34:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Brian, Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate the sensible and insightful thoughts that you and Ursula share with this list. I must second this notion!! I personally think the whole auction thing is being a bit blown out of proportion. We must remember that the word AUCTION is NOT synonymous with Slaughter house. Many other breeds have been having specialty auctions (whether for a particular breed or particular disipline/purpose) for a long time with great benefit to the breeds involved. Take a look sometime at the prices they get for TB yearlings at some of the race horse auctions for instance. Our Small Farmer's Journal Draft Horse Auction has had Fjords consigned several times in the last few years. These horses are bringing some of the top prices for the sale. These horses are getting exposure at these auctions, being seen by people that may not otherwise ever have seen a Fjord horse. These people may end up being future Fjord buyers - whether at another auction or from a private party. How can this be a bad thing? I guess I just don't understand why some folks are getting so worked up and putting someone down because, for whatever the reason, they have made the choice of selling horses at auction. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Brian, I hope you recover from your flu soon. Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate the sensible and insightfull thoughts that you and Ursula share with this list. = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Karen, I am sitting out here in Colorado with my two auction Fjords (who I adore), and sometimes I feel like an outsider to the list because of the rhetoric about auctions. And BTW, I didn't rescue these animals, I just purchased them. You should not feel like an outsider, many people have purchased horses through auctions and have been very pleased. Nor are most of these considered rescues, that is dependent on the situation at hand. The funny thing is I talk to my friend who breeds Haflingers and she can't figure out what the big hoo-hah is all about. A great percentage of Haffies It is very unusual to see this large a number of Fjords going through an auction. This is by no means a tradition for the Fjords in the States for the majority of breeders. The unfortunate aspect of selling at an auction is the fact that unless the sellers opts to no sale due to the bid not being high enough, the seller has no control over whom purchases their Fjord. Fjord breeders and owners are notoriously well known for their care in placing Fjords in new homes. Most breeders I know take a great deal of time placing the right Fjord with the right owner. Our entire goal with the Waverly auction which I had thought we were being very clear with, was to let everyone know these Fjords were going through, #1, and to do our best to give bloodlines and any other information possible concerning the individual Fjord in order to ensure it does get a good home. While Fjord breeders certainly do wish to show a profit from their offspring, most breeders are adamant they help the buyer choose the best Fjord for them. This is the Fjord tradition, and I for one am very proud to be a part of such a great and caring group of peers. Maybe the Haflinger breeders have a different tradition, there are many other breeds that do, no doubt! Hopefully, most of the Fjord breeders do not find themselves in the position of Tim where they are forced to sell at auction. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack Accessories White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 FAX: 775-383-6813 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords United Equine Foundation http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm Lynda C. Welch President, PMU and Breed Specific Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Ursula, for bringing some balance to the discussion. I am sitting out here in Colorado with my two auction Fjords (who I adore), and sometimes I feel like an outsider to the list because of the rhetoric about auctions. And BTW, I didn't rescue these animals, I just purchased them. The funny thing is I talk to my friend who breeds Haflingers and she can't figure out what the big hoo-hah is all about. A great percentage of Haffies are sold at auction; that's just been the tradition with that breed. Cheers! Karen _ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp
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This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List from Brian Jensen; Yes, I am home with the flu, so hence all the mails to the list!!! Although Auctions are not my first choice of buying and selling Fjords they do provide an opportunity in our free-enterprise system. In the past months on the list there has been some Doom and Gloom mailings on the list around Fjords being Auctioned. I call it awfulizing or catastrophizing to illicit an emotional response where a measured response of good thinking and timely action is far more helpful and productive to all involved. The present example of the Waverly Auction of Fjords is a case in point. I see it as a win/win situation for the vendor who no longer wishes to keep a herd. For the purchaser who can acquire a Fjord at a reasonable price. Most of all for the Fjord who can leave one situation and hopefully move to another home where there will be good care and training allowing the Fjord to be the best at whatever it can do. This whole situation can evolve into a positive experience for all involved. Many years ago in Alberta, Canada ,a buyer purchased by auction two geldings named George Harvey. The buyers names were the Unraus who have went on to become prominent breeders and importers of Norwegian Fjords. The Unraus of Anvil Acres have provided breeding stock to all of North America and beyond. George Harvey became Orville's first pulling team and were a hit in the West and the beginning of a families life with the Fjord horse. I am sure many of the lists readers have had similar humble beginnings with a Fjord ---who has changed their life forever. The humble beginning does not lessen the full experience . Brian J Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
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This message is from: Holly Tuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is possible they came from PMU farms and are all crosses. I know of some people who are breeding up to 7/8 cross right now. Holly What I do know is that they're all grade and came from Canada. DT __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi DT, I used to live in the Tri-Cities (right outside Hermiston, Oregon) and have been to the auction numerous times (with a QH breeder/trainer I worked for, when he went to purchase/sell his stock). On ~ 5 different occassions, I've noticed Fjords going through - which is really unusual - as most folk in that area know it's mainly a QH dominated auction. Even Arabs are a rare sight. In any event, I'm 99.9% sure my friend knows the owner of the Fjords - and from what I remember, they weren't quality bred or valuable enough to be sold privately (which is no fault of the horse). It's my hunch, like so many other horses sold there, that they're basically recycled - having passed from one auction to the next. Are you looking into purchasing one? If so, I might be able to do some tracking down for you Gretchen in Arizona (formerly from Tri-Cities, WA)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm at the horse auction down in Hermiston OR this weekend. I stopped by last night to take a look at the horses to discover what looks like 5 fjords (one might be a fjord cross). Unfortunately, I couldn't find a catalof and it was late at night so I don't have any details. What I do know is that they're all grade and came from Canada. I think they came from the Maple Valley area from someone named James or Jamie. Anyone know anything about who this may be? Thanks, DT
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This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 7 fjord horses consigned to the Harley Troyer Draft Horse and Equipment auction coming this April 5th and 6th. I was wondering if anyone might know anything about these horses? There is no description about where they come from. There is a team of two year old geldings; a four year old mare and gelding; a five year old gelding; a nine year old gelding and a 7 year old gelding. A couple of my friends have expressed an interest in the possiblity of purchasing them. If anyone has any information, would you please e-mail me privately? Thanks. Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
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This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:59 AM 1/10/2002 +1100, you wrote: This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List: Mary's post concerning the number of fjords showing up at auctions made me wonder: Is there any fjord rescue set up, much like many dog breeds have, to intervene and find new owners before a horse gets shipped off to a sale? None that are Fjord only that I am aware of anyway. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List: Mary's post concerning the number of fjords showing up at auctions made me wonder: Is there any fjord rescue set up, much like many dog breeds have, to intervene and find new owners before a horse gets shipped off to a sale? Just wondering. Karen _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
