Re: mane trimming
This message is from: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Check the tail area really good forticks! My Fjord was doing the same thing; no worms, etc. until a friend showed me how those little boogies can hide in the tail. Kim -Original Message- From: S K Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:27 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: mane trimming This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Could anyone tell me why my gelding's always scratching in the tail area? He hasn't any worms but the base of his tail is always bushy...kind of funny, until I have to brush it out!Susan --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com wrote: From: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 9:23 PM This message is from: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com I just recently was able to use electric clippers on my mare. She was terrified of them and it was just easier to do her mane by hand w/the scissors. I tried out of the blue the other week and she was ok w/ them. Made a huge difference! She's also letting me clip the base of her tail (dressage style) so I can get her spray to her skin. It looks very nice and her tail's in better condition now and she's not rubbing so much. -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Robyn Kevlin wrote: This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com I had been using scissors to trim Gaven's mane, but when I got Lars, Ellen had roached his mane to get the ticks out. Ick. Anyway, as it grew in, because it was so short, I used clippers to trim the white, and MAN! That works great! I used them this week to clip Gaven's white part, and it took about 15 minutes... as opposed to the 45 minutes it took me to trim with scissors. I still trim the black part with scissors, but will use clippers on the white part from now on. So if all of you have been using clippers all this time, don't disillusion me that I discovered this really cool, effective, fast method all by myself. ;0) -- *Robyn Kevlin* *Nobody knows the exact age of the human race, but everyone agrees it is old enough to know better. Anon * Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: mane trimming
This message is from: Debbie Hunt huntdebbi...@yahoo.com Good point. I board my Fjord and there have been 3 horses treated for infected ear wounds from ticks. They are bad in Kentucky this Summer. As far as the bushy tails, I contribute that to the breed characteristic and the fact that it takes forever to shed out there massive Winter coat. I have noticed my boy scratches his butt more in the Spring when he is shedding like crazy. I believe they are itchy. Just my observation. Debbie --- On Fri, 6/24/11, kngould kngo...@earthlink.net wrote: From: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 7:03 AM This message is from: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Check the tail area really good forticks! My Fjord was doing the same thing; no worms, etc. until a friend showed me how those little boogies can hide in the tail. Kim Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: mane trimming
This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com Ticks??? I've not had a problem with ticks since I started using Freedom Spot...a liquid application for horses similar to what people put on dogs and cats. My fjords would get ticks buried in their tails..breeding beds...sores..and itchy. Another bug product I like and it seems to help for gnats...Belly Balm by Tail Tamers. A bit like SWAT but not as thick and BB has citronella to repel bugs. Also aloe to soothe bites. And of course..good ole' tail washing on a regular basis keeps the tails from getting gunked up - and a good application of de-tangler on the hair after washing.they are good to go. Anyone out there from the southwest - desert climate? What are the most annoying bugs for horses in the southwest??? Thanks.Linda in WI Sven, Lena and Hasse (lives in St Paul near my daughter) fun fjords Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:50:27 -0700 From: huntdebbi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com This message is from: Debbie Hunt huntdebbi...@yahoo.com Good point. I board my Fjord and there have been 3 horses treated for infected ear wounds from ticks. They are bad in Kentucky this Summer. As far as the bushy tails, I contribute that to the breed characteristic and the fact that it takes forever to shed out there massive Winter coat. I have noticed my boy scratches his butt more in the Spring when he is shedding like crazy. I believe they are itchy. Just my observation. Debbie --- On Fri, 6/24/11, kngould kngo...@earthlink.net wrote: From: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 7:03 AM This message is from: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Check the tail area really good forticks! My Fjord was doing the same thing; no worms, etc. until a friend showed me how those little boogies can hide in the tail. Kim Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: mane trimming
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Thanks to all of you who responded to my question! Have a Great weekend, and I'll certainly check for ticks, although I've already combed it out and haven't seen any! --- On Fri, 6/24/11, Debbie Hunt huntdebbi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Debbie Hunt huntdebbi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 8:50 AM This message is from: Debbie Hunt huntdebbi...@yahoo.com Good point. I board my Fjord and there have been 3 horses treated for infected ear wounds from ticks. They are bad in Kentucky this Summer. As far as the bushy tails, I contribute that to the breed characteristic and the fact that it takes forever to shed out there massive Winter coat. I have noticed my boy scratches his butt more in the Spring when he is shedding like crazy. I believe they are itchy. Just my observation. Debbie --- On Fri, 6/24/11, kngould kngo...@earthlink.net wrote: From: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 7:03 AM This message is from: kngould kngo...@earthlink.net Check the tail area really good forticks! My Fjord was doing the same thing; no worms, etc. until a friend showed me how those little boogies can hide in the tail. Kim Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: mane trimming
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com I have been using scissors and it's very hard to cut the white shorter than the black...where does one get clippers and what size do I need for my Andy's mane? Thank you so much for all your advice --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com Subject: mane trimming To: fjordissues fjordiss...@yahoogroups.com, Fjord Horse listserve fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 8:46 PM This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com I had been using scissors to trim Gaven's mane, but when I got Lars, Ellen had roached his mane to get the ticks out. Ick. Anyway, as it grew in, because it was so short, I used clippers to trim the white, and MAN! That works great! I used them this week to clip Gaven's white part, and it took about 15 minutes... as opposed to the 45 minutes it took me to trim with scissors. I still trim the black part with scissors, but will use clippers on the white part from now on. So if all of you have been using clippers all this time, don't disillusion me that I discovered this really cool, effective, fast method all by myself. ;0) -- *Robyn Kevlin* *Nobody knows the exact age of the human race, but everyone agrees it is old enough to know better. Anon * Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: mane trimming
This message is from: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com I just recently was able to use electric clippers on my mare. She was terrified of them and it was just easier to do her mane by hand w/the scissors. I tried out of the blue the other week and she was ok w/ them. Made a huge difference! She's also letting me clip the base of her tail (dressage style) so I can get her spray to her skin. It looks very nice and her tail's in better condition now and she's not rubbing so much. -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Robyn Kevlin wrote: This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com I had been using scissors to trim Gaven's mane, but when I got Lars, Ellen had roached his mane to get the ticks out. Ick. Anyway, as it grew in, because it was so short, I used clippers to trim the white, and MAN! That works great! I used them this week to clip Gaven's white part, and it took about 15 minutes... as opposed to the 45 minutes it took me to trim with scissors. I still trim the black part with scissors, but will use clippers on the white part from now on. So if all of you have been using clippers all this time, don't disillusion me that I discovered this really cool, effective, fast method all by myself. ;0) -- *Robyn Kevlin* *Nobody knows the exact age of the human race, but everyone agrees it is old enough to know better. Anon * Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: mane trimming
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Could anyone tell me why my gelding's always scratching in the tail area? He hasn't any worms but the base of his tail is always bushy...kind of funny, until I have to brush it out! Susan --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com wrote: From: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Subject: Re: mane trimming To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 9:23 PM This message is from: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com I just recently was able to use electric clippers on my mare. She was terrified of them and it was just easier to do her mane by hand w/the scissors. I tried out of the blue the other week and she was ok w/ them. Made a huge difference! She's also letting me clip the base of her tail (dressage style) so I can get her spray to her skin. It looks very nice and her tail's in better condition now and she's not rubbing so much. -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Robyn Kevlin wrote: This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@gmail.com I had been using scissors to trim Gaven's mane, but when I got Lars, Ellen had roached his mane to get the ticks out. Ick. Anyway, as it grew in, because it was so short, I used clippers to trim the white, and MAN! That works great! I used them this week to clip Gaven's white part, and it took about 15 minutes... as opposed to the 45 minutes it took me to trim with scissors. I still trim the black part with scissors, but will use clippers on the white part from now on. So if all of you have been using clippers all this time, don't disillusion me that I discovered this really cool, effective, fast method all by myself. ;0) -- *Robyn Kevlin* *Nobody knows the exact age of the human race, but everyone agrees it is old enough to know better. Anon * Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: mane trimming
This message is from: Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I LIKE making Lisa (more) crazy Cheryl Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
mane trimming
This message is from: Claudia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have cut the mane with scissors, but my hand gets very sore and tired. I have had really nice results using my clippers. I have an Oster A-5, and I use a #5 or 7 blade and just start at the withers and clip along, then do the other side. It is easy to just keep a nice line because all I have to do is move my hand slowly and the clippers do the work. I sometimes use #10 blade for finishing, if I'm being fussy. I find I can keep the line a lot neater and more consistent with the clippers. And my hand doesn't get sore. Just a thought Claudia and Vergel, who gave me the nicest drive yesterday Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
mane trimming
This message is from: Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people trim with scissors I trim one horse in less than 5 minutes using a $9 pair of electric hair trimmers from Harbor Freight . $9 is cheaper than buying a new pair of scissors or sharpening blades. On another note..it's finally looking like winter. We received 5 inches of snow last night but then again,it's Colorado.Tomorrow it will be gone. Cheryl Gioia Colorado Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I do not wet the mane, but spray it good with a detangler. That really helps with cutting for me. I also use one of the long hair picks to hold that part of the mane upright that I am trimming. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fiskars for mane trimming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the Fiskars Soft Touch scissors/shears. They are light weight, have big, padded, comfortable, spring loaded grips, and nice sharp blades. I also recommend the Fiskars brand sharpener to go with them - best one I have found. You can see a photo of them on Amazon.com at the following address - _http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Softouch-Scissors/dp/B00061OFYK/ref=pd_bbs_6/102-33616 13-8697731?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1186852810sr=8-6_ (http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Softouch-Scissors/dp/B00061OFYK/ref=pd_bbs_6/102-3361613-8697731?ie=UTF8s=hp cqid=1186852810sr=8-6) If that link doesn't work, just search Amazon.com for Fiskars Softouch Scissors. I have just recently gotten my second pair - first pair is still good but I've lost a spring - after using them for 9+ years on my Fjords. I usually find them at Walmart with no problem. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: mane trimming tools
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the largest Fiskar scissors--I don't know the name of the model, but they have orange handles. You can buy them in fabric store and craft stores, even the craft dept at Walmart. And you can get a handy sharpener for them that's easy to use. Keeping them sharp makes the job easy. Ao Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, We clip the mane close each spring and let it grow out from there. And in some cases we keep it clipped close all year around. Even my APHA gelding has a Fjord cut. He actually looks great in it. May I suggest the NFHR grooming video. Check your Fjord Herald for details or email Mike May to order one. It will show you some techniques to cutting the mane. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast, Baskets Buhunds www.hestehaven.com Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda- Ahh, mane trimming, the bane of Fjord owners ;-) I prefer to use the electric clippers because my Fjords have super thick manes; those with polite little manes can be done with scissors. Generally, the more expensive the clipper the better. I tried the little cheap ones and they did absolutely nothing; in fact, when tested, they didn't even clip the peach fuzz off my arm! They went in the garbage. For years I used a Wahl Stable Pro until the time I left it out in the rain :-(. The WSP was adequate, but I didn't know what I was missing till I saw the two-handed thing my barn owner uses on the mules! That clipper could bring a shaggy animal down to the skin in seconds. So this winter I let my boys' manes grow out since they were shaggy as hell and had 4 beards, and said barn owner agreed to roach the manes in the spring. Many people do this, and if your Fjord has a nice neck it looks attractive. It gives the mane a chance to grow out nice and straight, and you can shape it as it grows. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA _www.eponahorsemanship.com_ (http://www.eponahorsemanship.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] I roach my Fjord's manes in December. They are grown out and ready to re-shape by March. I wash the manes so they are thoroughly wet and then trim with scissors. The trick with scissors is the wet mane. It makes trimming much easier. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main Trimming: In my opinion, Sophie Fiedler, Green Valley Farm, has the 'market cornered' on the technique. If you've ever had the opportunity to visit GVF, every horse on their place has a perfectly trimmed mane ALL THE TIME. Even her youngsters (and I mean babies!) mane's are always perfect. I've seen her trim, and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong, Sophie!) all she uses is scissors. I haven't seen it, but I've heard Carol's video is excellent, also. This winter was hard on our fjord's manes. With all the snow and ice, they looked like palm trees. We actually roached them, back in January, and just last weekend, had to put a trim on them... that's how fast they grew out. To roach, we used body clippers, to trim, only scissors and a big wide-toothed pick. Depending on the length, a clean mane is easier to trim, than a dirty one. Also, we use Fiskars scissors, with a Fiskars scissor sharpener. Works great. Great topic. Good luck! Jeanne - Berthoud, CO ~ Spring is finally here! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fantastic advice everyone. Thanks for responding to my mane trimming woes. I think I'll do better next time. And I'll get the video. Linda - Original Message - From: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more This message is from: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to Fjords. I have a mule and I roach his name with a pair of scissors. It works beautifully. I tried the same thing with my two Fjords. Their manes are much thicker and every mistake shows. My gelding stood perfectly still and let me create a masterpiece with a slightly raised black center and two gleaming white edges - not quite as curved as those I see in the Fjord Herald, but pretty good for my first attempt. My little mare, badly behaved, but vain, would not cooperate. The result is something between a punk rocker and a mohawk. Someone please advise me the best way to go about this. I have two questions: 1. Do I need electric clippers? In which case, there are so many to choose from, all over the map in price. I've never used them -what's the difference between clippers at $45 and those at $300. Please, someone, point me the right direction. 2. Would it be frowned upon in Fjord circles to clip the mane flat against his neck? It looks so much better to me. Your advice is appreciated. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more....
This message is from: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to Fjords. I have a mule and I roach his name with a pair of scissors. It works beautifully. I tried the same thing with my two Fjords. Their manes are much thicker and every mistake shows. My gelding stood perfectly still and let me create a masterpiece with a slightly raised black center and two gleaming white edges - not quite as curved as those I see in the Fjord Herald, but pretty good for my first attempt. My little mare, badly behaved, but vain, would not cooperate. The result is something between a punk rocker and a mohawk. Someone please advise me the best way to go about this. I have two questions: 1. Do I need electric clippers? In which case, there are so many to choose from, all over the map in price. I've never used them -what's the difference between clippers at $45 and those at $300. Please, someone, point me the right direction. 2. Would it be frowned upon in Fjord circles to clip the mane flat against his neck? It looks so much better to me. Your advice is appreciated. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Another Explanation for Variations in the Style of Mane Trimming
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think any of the explanations offered so far have really been clear on the rationale behind the question of why the Norwegians tend to trim the fjord mane flat across, as a rule, and the Dutch like to have the black strip stand up about 1/4 inch. Apparently, no one on the list has heard the one given to me by Olaf Nyby, one of Norway's top carriage driving instructors. He does a lot of clinics with fjord owners in Norway and also worked with training stallions at Nordfjordeid for a number of years. He told me that leaving the black higher than the white of the mane is called 'the funeral cut. I don't know how widespread this is in Norway, but it makes sense to me that the average farmer in years gone by would not have bothered to take the time to do the more precise trim, unless it were for something 'special' .. like a funeral, or perhaps a wedding (although Olaf didn't mention that it was used on those happier occasions too). I usually cut straight across, but if I am tempted to put the effort into that special trim, I prefer to think in terms of weddings, than funerals, even if tradition doesn't bear this out! Sorry to put a damper on the discussion. Cheryl Beillard
Re: mane trimming and winter, research on winter hoof temps
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Farrier of 17 years, will not trim hooves real short in the winter, and takes out very little sole, only the exfoliating dead sole. He neatens up the frog, trimming very little. He will not trim hooves if the forecast is for extreme cold in the next few days, and of course will not trim at all when the temperature is below +10 or so, especially after a cold snap: the horn is too frozen and brittle. If the horses have been in a warmed barn for a day or so he will do them. I have seen the hoof split when a shoe was nailed on, even after the weather had warmed up for a day: the hooves hadn't warmed up enough. I am talking about temperatures below zero here in Fairbanks, Alaska, where it quite often is -20 to -30 F at night, and sometimes as cold as -50F. It is true the Hoof itself warms up but the part of the hoof that is trimmed off doesn't get warmed up. Winter shoes are always put on with the snow pads..hoof-grips, which are rim pads, so that snow doesn't ball up. I do keep Old Bjarne (29) shod with winter shoes with borium so that he can easily get up and lie down and will not slip in the sloped paddock. Bjorken, my main riding gelding, also wears winter shoes so I can ride safely. Metal shoes don't seem to bother them any in the cold. AS far as cold legs...They certainly get a thick coverying of fuzzy fur on their legs also. I like to keep their manes trimmed, and I do think that a trimmed mane holds less ice and will not part. I just think it looks better too. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another sunny day, above freezing (barely), not winter yet! What they found was that the hoof temps stayed near and just above 32 degrees almost all of the time, and roughly once every 12 hours, the temp rose to closer to body temp, and then went back to the cold state. Nonetheless, I wonder about them and worrry for them on the coldest nights, despite the fact that they never get colds or show evidence of suffering. One thing that I have changed is how I trim in the winter. I tend to leave them plenty of sole, taking off almost nothing, and also not much frog, other than minor tidying. Maybe it helps them, maybe not.
mane trimming and winter, research on winter hoof temps
This message is from: David McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] My horses live outside all winter, with temps down into the minus 20's, and they do fine with trimmed manes. If you don't trim them, the manes tend to divide in the center, and create a part. If anything, I think this would be colder for the horses. I don't consider manes a problem. (I probably have reported this before, but since it is related to the topic...)What I have started doing differently is hoof trimming. I think on cold nights of them standing on snow, and how come their feet don't freeze. A couple of years ago I was at a lecture by the Austrailan laminitis researcher and veterinarian. He told us of research on hooves of horses in Alaska. They attached temp sensors to the hooves and recorded temps over successive 24 hour periods. What they found was that the hoof temps stayed near and just above 32 degrees almost all of the time, and roughly once every 12 hours, the temp rose to closer to body temp, and then went back to the cold state. Part of what impressed me about this is how horses have body mechanisms that protect them from their environment, many of which we are totally unaware of, and couldn't guess. Nonetheless, I wonder about them and worrry for them on the coldest nights, despite the fact that they never get colds or show evidence of suffering. One thing that I have changed is how I trim in the winter. I tend to leave them plenty of sole, taking off almost nothing, and also not much frog, other than minor tidying. Maybe it helps them, maybe not. Dave Camptown Harness www.horseharness.com
Re: First Mane trimming!
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Nancy Blauers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have that address for that video? You can order the Grooming Your Fjord video from the NFHR by sending a check for $25.00 to: NFHR 1203 Appian Dr Webster, NY 14580 Please make the check payable to NFHR and make sure you have your mailing address on a note letting me know what the check is for. Thanks, Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First Mane trimming!
This message is from: Nancy Blauers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone! After reading all this info about rainrot, are fjords easily susceptable to this? I bath my horses about once a week, alternating every other week with a light Iodine shampoo and AlbertoVO 5. Never had any trouble with the rot even in the sweltering hot summers with daily rain storms! (However this is my first Fjord and I've only had her a few weeks. (She's awesome, we really love her !)) Yesterday, I decided to trim Mischa's mane for the first time. Thinking to myself- heck your'e an artist -this should be no trouble at all. Now I know there's a video out there-but me- wait for a video- when I already have my mind set and a pair of scissors in hand? Cmon now! Needless to say, Mischa is off sulking in a corner right now. Soft words of encouragement like- don't worry Sweetie, it'll grow back have offered no relief to her despair. I trimmed my Aussie once- he hid under the couch for a month! They now have something to talk about- If she's coming with food-great!- scissors and clippers- RUN!! Even Sam, my dun QH gelding is taunting her. He has been free of the clippers for over a year since his show ring retirement.( A judge once asked me if Sam bodyclipped himself- that should have been a hint). The Gods of Ancient Norway must have heard her sigh.for they have sent Loki out to avenge Mischa's poor tattered mane. Within minutes after I put my tools away figuring I'll try again tomorrow- all hell broke loose. An old tree fell across our brand new fenceGreg's little Westie terrier decided that the carpet was a great place to get sick, (it was a fecal fiesta). and my nieghbor's kids (sweet- but REALLY hard to get rid of) started pounding on the door... yelling that they had chocolate for sale ( I just wrote the check for Weight Watchers). In the backyard, Mischa - still quiet- was wearing what appeared to be a soft grin. I threw the scissors away Does anyone have that address for that video? Have a great day and go hug your horse(s)! Nancy Blauers Orlando, Fl _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received the below message regarding mane trimming and told the person I would forward it to our mailing list for her. If anyone out there is interested in this please respond directly to here at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:10:49 -0700 From: Dorothy McPherson-Donell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mane trimming Hello, I am a trainer of Friesian and Fjord horses in California. I am in need of a person to trim the manes of several Fjord show horses in September and would appreciate knowing of anyone who is a professional trimmer who will come to the ranch. We are located in middle California, between Santa Cruz and and Los Gatos. Can you help me? Thanks, Dorothy McPherson-Donell === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mane trimming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/27/01 7:03:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, any tips on how to cut the mane w/o cutting all the black out when cutting the lighter shorter then the dark. I have tried this once, I must say not bad for beginner, but it was trickey. I think I got the arc a little further back then I should have. But need it to grow out some before attempting again. Hi Linda- I get lots of complement on my mane jobs so here's what I do. I largely use electric clippers now, saves time and gives a cleaner cut than a scissors which can slip so you end up with a rocky mountain look instead of an arc : ) It's not a bad idea to wash the mane, comb it UP and let it dry overnight before trimming. Otherwise the hairs may be going every which way (my geldings like to grab eachother by the manes) or dirt may damage your blade. Hold the clippers like a big pencil and buzz off just the white part in small sections. Create a shape on one side of the mane. Doing the white first will give you something to contrast with (the too-long black hairs) and see how smooth is your arc. When you are satisfied with the white part, move to the black on the same side. I like to have at least an inch of black above the white. Now move to the other side. The black is already where you want it, so trim the white to match. Shave a bridle path if you like, leaving as much forelock as is attractive. Actually the best vantage point to check the evenness of the two sides is from the horse's back. However I don't recommend operating the clippers from this position : ) Hope this helps. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords /A
Re: Mane trimming?
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have never seen a web page that described the job trimming the Fjord mane and I've been a coffeetime surfer for 4 or 5 years now. There is a ton of info on the subject in the FjordHorse-L archives for reference, many descriptions of technique, discussions about the best tools to use and troubleshooting. You need to get a feel for the asthetics of a well trimmed mane before you pick up the scissors by studying photos of well groomed Fjordinger. When finished it should accentuate the natural curve af the beautifully arched neck. The way I do it is to trim and neaten the bridlepath. (then I go to the withers, since I keep a swatch on the withers for a bareback riding handhold, I figure out where I would come to at the top of the swatch had I trimmed the mane all the way down and then I cut it for reference - but that is a little advanced; see Briggen http://www.fjordstudbook.com/h-brigge.htm for a veiw of the swatch) Then I start neatly whacking the mane off at the highest spot which is not right in the middle but a few inches above the middle and work up to meet the bridle path on a gentle cresent. I go all the way across from one side to the other from the get-go, even on Dorina's thick mane, so that if my pony gets fidgety or I find I'm just not in the mood after all, I can make a short job of it. (some folks trim the white on one side, then the black, then the white on the other side) Then I trim up from the withers, making an ever-so-slightly less-rounded cresent from the withers to where I started above the middle. I have to look at my pony from the front, making her lower her head, so I can see if I made a bad slope or any grotesque dips from that angle. If there is any wind at all, watch out and don't let the little short trimmings blow into your eyes. When that is done the mane could be left as finished. If my ponys mane is floppy before I start, I make the highest point rather short - maybe only three to four inches. If the whole mane is only slightly floppy before I started or is standing upright, I keep it quite long - around five to six inches. If it's one of those days I would be happy with a poodle instead of a Labrador, I go back and do the Dutch cut. I trim the white on both sides 1/2 inch to an inch shorter than the black on one side then the other. It helps to notch a stick so you can make a premeasured cut every 10 inches or so. And that is how I trim the mane. Here are some photos that show the Fjord mane at its best: On this Beaver Dam page, look for the pic of a girl holding Tessa http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf/ourown.htm The second pic of Erlend http://www.equineadvertising.com/stallions/Erlend.htm These photos from Norway show the manes cut without doing the Dutch cut http://www.bluebirdlane.com/colour.html Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art Moulton Alabama USA
Mane trimming?
This message is from: Patryjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I trimmed Tomas' mane for the first time yesterday. I was very slow, but he was very patient with me and my milk crate.(I am vertically challengedonly 15hh high) It took all afternoon, but we took lots of hay breaks. It's been very buggy and storming, so I think he was glad to be in the barn for awhile...and he loved the breaks, of course! I discovered something fun and interesting in the process...when he got a little fidgety at some crucial moment, if I started whistling, he would stand perfectly still. My whistling repertoire being limited, I simply used the tune Whistle while you work! It worked great! Question: Somewhere in this vast cyber-network I found a site that had really good instructions for trimming fjord manes. It was some time ago and now I can't find it again. Does anyone know where it is? Probably covered by you guys a million times, here. Thanks Betsy in muggy and thunderous Michigan
Mane Trimming
This message is from: Sini Seppala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, one thing to make the mane stand up is to make it thinner. (Sorry if I'm repeating someone else's texts and somebody's mentioned this already - a few messages went missing before I managed to read them.) Have heard Norwegian horse people traditionally use a knife to grab the black part of the mane and to pull it out so that some of the hairs come out. I've got a pair of those scissors that barbers used to use (perhaps they still do) to shingle hair - you know those scissors with even, tiny teeth and gaps on the blades. They cut only 50% of the hair that goes through the blades while the rest is left intact. Makes it nice and even. Sini. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what then of the extremely heavy mane on my Icelandic horse? Must I carefully double-side it to balance the weight and prevent it from twisting his neck? Now that he is down from training upstate and stabled with my Fjord, they are being turned out together for much of the day by the new stable manager. My Fjord's mane is missing an area of white on one side, large enough to remove most of one segment of the zebra-cut. I am wondering if the Icelandic is pulling it out, or if he is rubbing it off under a fence. Unfortunately, I cannot be there during the day to see what is occuring, but he looks a mess, and the Christmas parades are just starting. Merek
Mane trimming
This message is from: Nancy Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiona asked why other than tradition does one trim the mane on a Fjord Horse... I have seen first hand what can happen to the horse's neck if it has a heavy mane left to grow long and flowing on one side of the neck. It breaks the muscle down, curving it so that even if the mane were cut in the future relieving the pressure, the neck itself would stay curved to one side! I saw it on a stallion in New Mexico and a mare in Wisconsin. Some folks allow the manes to grow out in the winter and roach them clear down to the neck in the Spring. That takes away the pretty sculpted arch of the mane so unique to the Fjord breed. It takes a little more work, but I keep all of mine trimmed throughout the year and they look so much better all the time. That has been as many as 54 head at one time! Now I'm down to 20 so it seems much easier! I use a non-electric hand shear with a 3 1/2 inch blade. I can do about 3 to 5 manes before I sharpen it with a small steel similar to what we use for kitchen knives. People have inquired about buying a shear for themselves so I have added them for sale on out web site. Anyone interested in purchasing one can find a photo of them on http://www.nancysfjordhorses.com or you can E-mail me. Happy Trails, Nancy, needing to sculpt/trim two more manes today!
