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Re: [Flexradio] Fatal Error HELP

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Ellison
Looks to be a DB issue of some sort.  Rename your database and let PowerSDR 
build a new one. 



-Tim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jeff Neely
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:22 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Fatal Error HELP

I hope that I am using this reflector correctly.?? I was setting up my 
microphone this evening and have many times before when PowerSDR quit and when 
I rebooted it I get a Fatal Error Message when it is in the process of loading 
the main form with 2 seconds left to go.

The output char buffer is too small to contain the decoded characters, 
encoding 'Unicode (UTF-8)' fallback 'System.text.decoderReplacementFallback'. 
Parameter name: chars

at System.Text.Encoding.ThrowCharsOverflow()
at System.Text.Encoding.ThrowCharsOverflow(DecoderNLS decoder, boolean 
nothingDecoded) etc...

There are a total of 18 lines of code  but it will not open up PowerSDR


I am running
XPPRO
Quad I5
SVN3568

Any suggestions? Or should I call Flex Monday?

Thanks
Jeff
Shelton, WA
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Ellison
It is due to all the mixing products.  The filters are necessary for reception 
in that frequency range. 



-Tim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Robert delaney
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:00 AM
To: Jerry Sharp
Cc: FLEXRADIO
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz

Jerry, Thank you for the information about the Flex 1000 and it's performance 
when a filter is added.
  I am a bit concerned though with the Flex 5000. When tuning this area of 
spectrum you will see all of thebroadcast  images and then when you pass a 
certain frequency the whole panadapter suddenly almost magically changes to a 
new set of images.
  I can not hear any beacons under the QRM at all just spike after spike of AM 
stations that aren't really there.

73, Bob
KA9UVY
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From: Jerry Sharp gerf...@mesanetworks.net
To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz


 Bob, like Dudley mentions, you'll need a low pass filter that cuts off at 
 400-500 KHz. In fact, I run two in series to keep all the broadcast junk 
 out.

 Every radio I've even owned that tuned below 500 KHz worked the same...all 
 kinds of BCB junk unless you add a filter, including my Drake R8, Drake 
 TR7, and Yaesu FT-847.

 Right now I'm running a short 36 active antenna for LF into my SDR-1000 
 (with of course the low pass filters in line). From Colorado in the winter 
 I have copied non-directional beacons from South and Central America, 
 Greenland, and the South Pacific. I've also copied several 1 watt Lowfer 
 experimental stations in the 170-190 KHz range from across the USA.

 The panadapter is ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL for spotting extremely weak LF and 
 VLF CW signals! And my SDR with low pass filters is by far the finest 
 receiver I've ever owned for LF and VLF!

 73,
 Jerry Sharp, KD0GS

 Dudley Hurry wrote:
 Bob,

 You will need a low pass filter of the range you are planning to use. 
 Many have report good results with a 500 khz cutoff  low pass or you can 
 build your own..
 73,
 Dudley

 WA5QPZ



 Robert delaney wrote:
   I seem to have nothing but images of the AM broadcast band on my 5000A 
 when looking for non directional airport beacons between 150 and 500 
 Khz.
   Has anyone else noticed this image issue?  I understand that the 
 radios specs are for the ham band but I thought it would at least RX 
 down there.

 Thanks, 73
 Bob
 KA9UVY
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Ellison
It is the way the radio is designed and yes, being a direct conversion radio 
has a lot to do with it too.  Those other radios are multiple conversion 
superhets.

Direct conversion receivers have high dynamic range, but are susceptible to 
images.



-Tim

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dr. J Roth
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:08 AM
Cc: Flex Radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz


Would someone educate me as to why my Radio Shack DX-394  Icom IC746PRO does 
such a good job of RX from 1 MHz down to 100Hz without images and no external 
filters? 
Is it only due to the conversion configuration?
Joe 

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 To: ka9...@hotmail.com; gerf...@mesanetworks.net
 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:50:45 -0400
 CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz
 
 It is due to all the mixing products.  The filters are necessary for 
 reception in that frequency range. 
 
 
 
 -Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Robert delaney
 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:00 AM
 To: Jerry Sharp
 Cc: FLEXRADIO
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz
 
 Jerry, Thank you for the information about the Flex 1000 and it's performance 
 when a filter is added.
   I am a bit concerned though with the Flex 5000. When tuning this area of 
 spectrum you will see all of the broadcast  images and then when you pass a 
 certain frequency the whole panadapter suddenly almost magically changes to a 
 new set of images.
   I can not hear any beacons under the QRM at all just spike after spike of 
 AM stations that aren't really there.
 
 73, Bob
 KA9UVY
 - Original Message -
 From: Jerry Sharp gerf...@mesanetworks.net
 To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz
 
 
  Bob, like Dudley mentions, you'll need a low pass filter that cuts 
  off at 400-500 KHz. In fact, I run two in series to keep all the 
  broadcast junk out.
 
  Every radio I've even owned that tuned below 500 KHz worked the 
  same...all kinds of BCB junk unless you add a filter, including my 
  Drake R8, Drake TR7, and Yaesu FT-847.
 
  Right now I'm running a short 36 active antenna for LF into my 
  SDR-1000 (with of course the low pass filters in line). From 
  Colorado in the winter I have copied non-directional beacons from 
  South and Central America, Greenland, and the South Pacific. I've 
  also copied several 1 watt Lowfer experimental stations in the 170-190 KHz 
  range from across the USA.
 
  The panadapter is ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL for spotting extremely weak 
  LF and VLF CW signals! And my SDR with low pass filters is by far 
  the finest receiver I've ever owned for LF and VLF!
 
  73,
  Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
 
  Dudley Hurry wrote:
  Bob,
 
  You will need a low pass filter of the range you are planning to use. 
  Many have report good results with a 500 khz cutoff  low pass or 
  you can build your own..
  73,
  Dudley
 
  WA5QPZ
 
 
 
  Robert delaney wrote:
I seem to have nothing but images of the AM broadcast band on my 
  5000A when looking for non directional airport beacons between 150 
  and 500 Khz.
Has anyone else noticed this image issue?  I understand that the 
  radios specs are for the ham band but I thought it would at least 
  RX down there.
 
  Thanks, 73
  Bob
  KA9UVY
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[Flexradio] default frequency when switching band

2010-03-14 Thread bobt
Hi to the group,

   I have a minor problem which is more of a
puzzle than anything else. It didn't happen before I upgraded to 1.18.15 so
I could do with a little inspiration. I am running a 5000A with 71.71 and
1.18.15 and Vista.

 

What happens is that when I change bands to 20M the rig always switches to
14.230Mhz no matter what I was on when I switched to another band from 20M.
It doesn't do it on any other band just this one. If I switch off from 20M
and switch on again then fine it comes back at the same freq as I switched
off , but as soon as I switch to an other band and back to 20M I end up on
14.230Mhz. 

 

Politely HELP !

 

Regards Bob Townsend ZS6BXI

 

 


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Re: [Flexradio] default frequency when switching band

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Ellison
Sounds like an issue in the database with the bandstack registers.

Do a database reset and see if that clears things up.



-Tim

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Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:21 AM
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Subject: [Flexradio] default frequency when switching band

Hi to the group,

   I have a minor problem which is more of a puzzle 
than anything else. It didn't happen before I upgraded to 1.18.15 so I could do 
with a little inspiration. I am running a 5000A with 71.71 and
1.18.15 and Vista.

 

What happens is that when I change bands to 20M the rig always switches to 
14.230Mhz no matter what I was on when I switched to another band from 20M.
It doesn't do it on any other band just this one. If I switch off from 20M and 
switch on again then fine it comes back at the same freq as I switched off , 
but as soon as I switch to an other band and back to 20M I end up on 14.230Mhz. 

 

Politely HELP !

 

Regards Bob Townsend ZS6BXI

 

 


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[Flexradio] auto tuners and limits thereof

2010-03-14 Thread Carl N9GC
Having owned an SDR1000 (sans tuner) and a Yaesu FT1000MP MkV, I became 
familiar with the good and bad points of the internal tuner of the MkV. The 
manual has a very good discussion of what to expect from an internal tuner. Or, 
as I like to say, finally someone had the guts to put it in print.

Their basic philosophy is that the tuner works with loads with SWR of less than 
3 to 1. They make no apologies for this limit but say very candidly that if 
you have an SWR of over 3 to 1 that you have an antenna problem, not a tuner or 
radio problem, and they suggest that you fix your antenna problem! 

Or to put it less politely than they did (what follows are my words), Please 
don't expect this expensive world class contest grade transceiver to load up 
your wet piece of string that's at 15 feet height next to aluminum gutters. If 
you want a real station, you have half of it, a good transceiver. Now get a 
real antenna.

I have been using the MFJ 993B auto tuner for a year and it works very well 
with my very poor antenna setup in an attic. When it won't match what I have, I 
know I am once again trying to violate (not break) the laws of physics.

Rant meter now off.

73, Carl N9GC
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[Flexradio] low pass filter for reception below 500 kc

2010-03-14 Thread Stephen Victor
Does someone have a reference for how to obtain or build such a filter?

Thanks and 73
Steve WA2DTW


  
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[Flexradio] Power SDR Screen Color (5000A)?

2010-03-14 Thread 3938
I see on page 25 of the April QST that the ad for the Flex 5000A and 3000
show a very nice black background on the screen. The large overlay at the
top of the advertisement also shows the dark background screen. Does anyone
know how to change/configure the white background in order to get the black
background, which looks quite a bit richer?

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[Flexradio] 400-500KHz filter?

2010-03-14 Thread Michael Jones
Listening for NDB sounds interesting. Can anyone point me to info on building 
or buying the 400-500KHz lowpass filters that have been mentioned?
Also, before I explore too far, would there be anything inherent in the Flex 
3000 that would prevent it from hearing these signals?

Best regards,

Michael Jones W0STB
SCSI Toolbox LLC
www.scsitoolbox.com
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Re: [Flexradio] Power SDR Screen Color (5000A)?

2010-03-14 Thread David McKenzie
Reid, that looks like a picture of the pb-pal svn branch with the default
skin. You'll have to try the beta versions or wait until 2.0 to change the
skin from the original light gray.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:39 PM, 3938 3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I see on page 25 of the April QST that the ad for the Flex 5000A and 3000
 show a very nice black background on the screen. The large overlay at the
 top of the advertisement also shows the dark background screen. Does anyone
 know how to change/configure the white background in order to get the black
 background, which looks quite a bit richer?

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[Flexradio] black background

2010-03-14 Thread FireBrick
Right Clicking on a blank display area and choosing 'Properties' will bring 
up the Display Props window.

Choose 'Desktop' and in lower right is the background color choices.

I find a Black Background to be easy on the eyes.
Especially at night in tired eye contests.

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[Flexradio] F3K Power Reading Inconsistant

2010-03-14 Thread Jim Eastham
My problem is that I am getting inconsistent forward power readings on
the F3K.  I'm running the F3K into an MFJ 941D tuner / collinear dipole
array.  Also running coax out of the tuner thru a balun then ladder
line.   

 

For example:

 

LoadF3K SWRF3K
DriveF3K Fwd Pwr  941D Fwd Pwr   Function

50 ohm Dummy1.1:1  25 watts
23 watts   35 watts   Tune

Tuner/Antenna1.1:1  25 watts
23 watts   35 watts   Tune

Tuner/Antenna1.1:1  25watts
4 watts10 watts   DIGU / PSK 31

 

 

 

I'm not worried about the F3K Drive and Fwd Pwr reading differentials
when in Tune mode - that's discussed in the operating guide.   And I
know the Tuner wattmeter is going to be inaccurate.  But I don't
understand what's happening with the big difference in readings when I
transmit in DIGU in Digi.All readings indicated I am losing power .
I'm using  Ham Radio Deluxe (v 5 beta) DM 780 to send PSK 31same
thing happens in RTTY mode.Any suggestions on what is going on?  

 

 

73s

 

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Re: [Flexradio] flex radio operating voltages

2010-03-14 Thread Jim Barber
Not that I'm in the habit of recommending their products, but have you 
considered the MFJ-4416B Super Battery Booster? They claim the 
switching regulator efficiency is over 90% and that it will regulate 
down to 9V input.


They also have a GoesInna-GoesOutta remote monitor (MFJ-4416BRC) for 
the gadget, which might be handy if you're not monitoring the batteries 
right at the operating position.


73,
Jim, N7CXI

k4xtt wrote:

Before saying, What a stupid question, please bear with me.
I'm running off of solar power and batteries for the computer and radios.
Has any body found out what is the lowest voltage this radio will be 
stable at?  I may see only 11.9 to 12.1 volts at the worst of times, 
when the station has run a long time before the sun comes out again.  
The computers and the rest of the station will work at this voltage.

Thanks,  K4XTT  Victor

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Re: [Flexradio] low pass filter for reception below 500 kc

2010-03-14 Thread Trevor Smithers
Two more filters to consider

Clifton Labs
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z10020_am_medium_wave_band_reject_filter.htm

Par Electronics
http://www.parelectronics.com/swl_filters.htm

Trevor  G0KTN

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Re: [Flexradio] auto tuners and limits thereof

2010-03-14 Thread Lazy Senior

There are several problems here.

1. SWR has NO relationship to how well an antenna works or radiates. A 
REAL antenna does not need a low SWR. Please obtain a copy of Maxwells 
Reflections and learn something about SWR and the Myths many hams believe.


2. Flex advertises their Flex 5000 ATU to work with a 10:1 SWR. This is 
false advertising as the Flex ATU struggles with 2:1 SWRs. 10:1 SWR 
would be a wet noodle antenna.


3. On bands like 75, 15, and 10 mtrs, an antenna will not have a low SWR 
over the whole band. An internal antenna will help the radio work the 
whole band.


4. Most radios - including the Flex folds back power the higher the SWR. 
Internal tuners help protect the radio.


5. Every internal tuner I have had in a radio works on 3:1 SWRs. My last 
radio, the Icom Pro III worked perfectly with my antennas. The Flex ATU 
does not. I do not expect the Flex ATU to load up a wet noodle. I DO 
expect it to work as well as other internal tuners.


6. The MFJ 993B is an excellent example of an auto tuner that works the 
way it should.


Stan K9IUQ



Carl N9GC wrote:
Their basic philosophy is that the tuner works with loads with SWR of less than 3 to 1. They make no apologies for this limit but say very candidly that if you have an SWR of over 3 to 1 that you have an antenna problem, not a tuner or radio problem, and they suggest that you fix your antenna problem! 


Or to put it less politely than they did (what follows are my words), Please 
don't expect this expensive world class contest grade transceiver to load up 
your wet piece of string that's at 15 feet height next to aluminum gutters. If 
you want a real station, you have half of it, a good transceiver. Now get a 
real antenna.

I have been using the MFJ 993B auto tuner for a year and it works very well 
with my very poor antenna setup in an attic. When it won't match what I have, I 
know I am once again trying to violate (not break) the laws of physics.

Rant meter now off.

73, Carl N9GC
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Re: [Flexradio] flex radio operating voltages

2010-03-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
I asked this question some time ago and received the following reply:

All Flex-3000 users:
The dropout voltage of the 5V regulator is 2.5V, all the lower voltage
regulators are LDO types.
I have completed a few simple low voltage tests, the production
calibration tests all pass at ~11.4V.
The preamp is the only non-regulated voltage active component in the
receive path and  has .3 dB less gain at this reduced voltage.
Tested the transmitter on 20mtr USB with a recorded wavefile: Info
panel reads ~10.7 V, Powermaster wattmeter: 83W (Tune @100 drive
level) and listened on a F5K audio sounded same as full voltage of
13.8V.

The Flex-3000 was used mobile traveling from Austin, Tx to the Dayton,
Oh Convention, and return trip operating as K5FRS, with no technical
problems, although band conditions were not the best.

Ken Simmons, K5UHF
FlexRadio Systems
Senior Design Engineer
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-692-9044

Tune in excitement!


-- 
73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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[Flexradio] Problem After Motherboard Change

2010-03-14 Thread Paul - K6HR
 

My motherboard had to be replaced, and since doing so PSDR freezes whenever
I open another window.

 

I have installed PSDR 1.18.5 Firmware 1.3.0.8 and the 3.5.0.7171 driver
under Windows 7 Professional 64bit. 

Quad Core CPU with 4GB RAM.

 

I have checked the IRQ for the firewire card and it appears to have its own
IRQ (not shared)

I see the video card showing an IRQ of 4294967291 (seems strange)

 

I am using the same PCI Firewire card that I used on the old mobo, a check
indicates it is found to be Compatible, no known issues

 

I went into the BIOS and disabled the mobo's intergrated firewire
controller. (same problem exists when using either firewire port)

 

I have turned off Windows UAC and have the OS running in Test Mode

 

I used to run the FW driver in Normal mode on my old mobo, and have tried
the various Safe Mode levels with the same result.

 

 

Problem: While PSDR is running, if I open another program like IE or Windows
Explorer I hear distortion in the audio for a second or so and then PSDR
freezes. 

If I open another program first, then start PSDR, PSDR will freeze as soon
as I move a scroll bar on the side of any open window.

 

Observations: Previously the Flex firewire driver always showed my radio
connected. 

Now when I open the FW control panel I see a message saying there is no
hardware connected, If I turn the radio on first I don't see this message.

 

Any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated!

 

Paul Delaney - K6HR

 

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Problem After Motherboard Change

2010-03-14 Thread Alan NV8A



On 03/14/10 03:46 pm, Paul - K6HR wrote:


My motherboard had to be replaced, and since doing so PSDR freezes whenever
I open another window.



I have installed PSDR 1.18.5 Firmware 1.3.0.8 and the 3.5.0.7171 driver
under Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Quad Core CPU with 4GB RAM.



I have checked the IRQ for the firewire card and it appears to have its own
IRQ (not shared)

I see the video card showing an IRQ of 4294967291 (seems strange)



I am using the same PCI Firewire card that I used on the old mobo, a check
indicates it is found to be Compatible, no known issues



I went into the BIOS and disabled the mobo's intergrated firewire
controller. (same problem exists when using either firewire port)



I have turned off Windows UAC and have the OS running in Test Mode



I used to run the FW driver in Normal mode on my old mobo, and have tried
the various Safe Mode levels with the same result.





Problem: While PSDR is running, if I open another program like IE or Windows
Explorer I hear distortion in the audio for a second or so and then PSDR
freezes.

If I open another program first, then start PSDR, PSDR will freeze as soon
as I move a scroll bar on the side of any open window.



Observations: Previously the Flex firewire driver always showed my radio
connected.

Now when I open the FW control panel I see a message saying there is no
hardware connected, If I turn the radio on first I don't see this message.



Any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated!


Same model motherboard? If same model, same revision no. and BIOS version?

Did you reinstall Windows from scratch?

73

Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] flex radio operating voltages

2010-03-14 Thread k4xtt

Thanks, that is what I needed to know. I will be a new Flex owner next week.

On 3/14/2010 2:59 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:

I asked this question some time ago and received the following reply:

All Flex-3000 users:
The dropout voltage of the 5V regulator is 2.5V, all the lower voltage
regulators are LDO types.
I have completed a few simple low voltage tests, the production
calibration tests all pass at ~11.4V.
The preamp is the only non-regulated voltage active component in the
receive path and  has .3 dB less gain at this reduced voltage.
Tested the transmitter on 20mtr USB with a recorded wavefile: Info
panel reads ~10.7 V, Powermaster wattmeter: 83W (Tune @100 drive
level) and listened on a F5K audio sounded same as full voltage of
13.8V.

The Flex-3000 was used mobile traveling from Austin, Tx to the Dayton,
Oh Convention, and return trip operating as K5FRS, with no technical
problems, although band conditions were not the best.

Ken Simmons, K5UHF
FlexRadio Systems
Senior Design Engineer
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-692-9044

Tune in excitement!


   



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Re: [Flexradio] Motherboards that work

2010-03-14 Thread George Vesnaver
Hi,

I have a Asus P7P55D PRO motherboard.  Although I can use the on board
firewire interface, at 192k latency is below 50us yet I do get crackling
noise as I move the PowerSDR window across the screen.  For better results I
have  I have set the Buf size to 512 and Sample rate to 96000

I have not yet tuned win7 as I am looking for anyone that may have already
performed this work with good success and would have a good procedure to
follow.

Would you advise purchasing a separate fireware card with this particular
motherboard?


Thanks,

George
VE2EWQ
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Re: [Flexradio] Motherboards that work

2010-03-14 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi George

Is there any IRQ sharing with the firewire port? I would try a separate
firewire card.


Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/





On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:21 PM, George Vesnaver
george.vesna...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have a Asus P7P55D PRO motherboard.  Although I can use the on board
 firewire interface, at 192k latency is below 50us yet I do get crackling
 noise as I move the PowerSDR window across the screen.  For better results
 I
 have  I have set the Buf size to 512 and Sample rate to 96000

 I have not yet tuned win7 as I am looking for anyone that may have already
 performed this work with good success and would have a good procedure to
 follow.

 Would you advise purchasing a separate fireware card with this particular
 motherboard?


 Thanks,

 George
 VE2EWQ
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Re: [Flexradio] auto tuners and limits thereof

2010-03-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Lazy Senior lazysen...@verizon.net wrote:

 2. Flex advertises their Flex 5000 ATU to work with a 10:1 SWR. This is
 false advertising as the Flex ATU struggles with 2:1 SWRs. 10:1 SWR would be
 a wet noodle antenna.

It actually *will* match a 10:1 mismatch. Try connecting a 500Ω or a
5Ω load and it will match it. But that is not the real story. A
tuner actually does two things:

1. tunes out (cancels) whatever reactance is present;

2. provides an impedance transformation from whatever is at the input
to 50 ohms.

For most tuners, the available reactive and resistive ranges are
interdependent. The more reactive the antenna, the more limited the
tuner is in matching the resistive component. It would be much better
if tuners were spec'd by the reactance and resistance ranges that they
will tune. Sounds like something the ARRL might do in their labs.

As for tuning a wet noodle, an end-fed 1/2 wave antenna has an
impedance of about 8000Ω or an SWR of about 160:1. There are precious
few tuners that can handle that mismatch. That might actually be worse
than a wet noodle. :-)

 3. On bands like 75, 15, and 10 mtrs, an antenna will not have a low SWR
 over the whole band. An internal antenna will help the radio work the
 whole band.

It depends on the 'Q' of the antenna. It is common to increase the
bandwidth of a monopole by increasing its diameter or by switching to
a folded monopole so that a tuner isn't required over the whole band.

 5. Every internal tuner I have had in a radio works on 3:1 SWRs. My last
 radio, the Icom Pro III worked perfectly with my antennas. The Flex ATU does
 not. I do not expect the Flex ATU to load up a wet noodle. I DO expect it to
 work as well as other internal tuners.

Well, Gerald did say they were aware of the limitations and that they
are improving the code. So far, other than the time it takes to get
things done, Flex has been very good about keeping its promises.

Getting back to my original comment about comparing tuners, it would
be nice to know what the inductance and capacitance ranges are so that
it can be compared to other tuners. If you look at the block diagram
you will see that it is an 'L' network but that the shunt capacitance
can be switched to either side of the series inductance. Knowing the
minimum and maximum inductance and capacitance will tell you what the
matching range is.

-- 
73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] auto tuners and limits thereof

2010-03-14 Thread Alan NV8A

On 03/14/10 06:58 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote:


2. Flex advertises their Flex 5000 ATU to work with a 10:1 SWR. This is
false advertising as the Flex ATU struggles with 2:1 SWRs. 10:1 SWR would be
a wet noodle antenna.


It actually *will* match a 10:1 mismatch. Try connecting a 500Ω or a
5Ω load and it will match it. But that is not the real story. A
tuner actually does two things:

1. tunes out (cancels) whatever reactance is present;

2. provides an impedance transformation from whatever is at the input
to 50 ohms.

For most tuners, the available reactive and resistive ranges are
interdependent. The more reactive the antenna, the more limited the
tuner is in matching the resistive component. It would be much better
if tuners were spec'd by the reactance and resistance ranges that they
will tune. Sounds like something the ARRL might do in their labs.

As for tuning a wet noodle, an end-fed 1/2 wave antenna has an
impedance of about 8000Ω or an SWR of about 160:1. There are precious
few tuners that can handle that mismatch. That might actually be worse
than a wet noodle. :-)


3. On bands like 75, 15, and 10 mtrs, an antenna will not have a low SWR
over the whole band. An internal antenna will help the radio work the
whole band.


It depends on the 'Q' of the antenna. It is common to increase the
bandwidth of a monopole by increasing its diameter or by switching to
a folded monopole so that a tuner isn't required over the whole band.


5. Every internal tuner I have had in a radio works on 3:1 SWRs. My last
radio, the Icom Pro III worked perfectly with my antennas. The Flex ATU does
not. I do not expect the Flex ATU to load up a wet noodle. I DO expect it to
work as well as other internal tuners.


Well, Gerald did say they were aware of the limitations and that they
are improving the code. So far, other than the time it takes to get
things done, Flex has been very good about keeping its promises.

Getting back to my original comment about comparing tuners, it would
be nice to know what the inductance and capacitance ranges are so that
it can be compared to other tuners. If you look at the block diagram
you will see that it is an 'L' network but that the shunt capacitance
can be switched to either side of the series inductance. Knowing the
minimum and maximum inductance and capacitance will tell you what the
matching range is.


Am I correct in thinking that the FLEX-5000A ATU is in fact a custom 
version of one of the LDG or SGC tuners? How well does the original 
work with a similarly mismatched antenna?


73

Alan NV8A


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[Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz

2010-03-14 Thread Robert delaney
  I want to thank everyone who replied to my question about the Flex 5000 
reception below the broadcast band.
  Unfortunatley there seems to be a pretty big difference in opinions about 
this so I am going to try and build or purchase a filter to see for myself if 
this radio can RX there or not.
  I just planned to do some casual listening down there and I am not expecting 
SUPER performance in that part of the spectrum.  I am however expecting equal 
performance to my TS2000X down there.

Thanks again to All who Flex their muscle here to help out us newbies.

73, Bob
KA9UVY
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz

2010-03-14 Thread N4PY2

Bob,

I listen regularly to signals below 500 khz, including many airport beacons 
as low as 200 khz.  I made a low pass filter for 500 khz and it completely 
removed all the broadcast band signals.  Direct conversion receivers will 
receive signals quite well at all the multiples of the tuned frequency.  If 
you are tuned to 300 khz, you will receive 600 khz, 900 khz, 1200 khz, and 
so on quite well.  The fix is to install a low pass filter that cuts off at 
something less than the times 2 frequency.  The F5K has built in low pass 
filters for each ham band to solve this for the ham bands.  The receive loop 
built into the F5K is the perfect place to install this filter.


This is the link for the filter I built.
http://www.qrp.pops.net/ndb.asp



Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


- Original Message - 
From: Robert delaney ka9...@hotmail.com

To: FLEXRADIO flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Flex 5000a RX below 550 Khz


 I want to thank everyone who replied to my question about the Flex 5000 
reception below the broadcast band.
 Unfortunatley there seems to be a pretty big difference in opinions about 
this so I am going to try and build or purchase a filter to see for myself 
if this radio can RX there or not.
 I just planned to do some casual listening down there and I am not 
expecting SUPER performance in that part of the spectrum.  I am however 
expecting equal performance to my TS2000X down there.


Thanks again to All who Flex their muscle here to help out us newbies.

73, Bob
KA9UVY
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Re: [Flexradio] auto tuners and limits thereof

2010-03-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
2010/3/14 Alan NV8A n...@charter.net:
 Am I correct in thinking that the FLEX-5000A ATU is in fact a custom version
 of one of the LDG or SGC tuners? How well does the original work with a
 similarly mismatched antenna?

You would have to as Flex but here is my
worth-everything-you-paid-for-it take on this.

Well, it is definitely different from my SGC-231 and the other SGC
schematics I have seen. I can't answer for LDG. Regardless, an ATU is
a well-understood thing. It is probably just as easy to start from
scratch.

Consider that the firmware for the SGC and LDG tuners works peachy but
that the firmware in the Flex tuners still need tuning. That implies
to me that it is a separate design. Why purchase the rights to the
hardware (the easy part) and not also purchase the rights to the
firmware (the hard part).

-- 
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Re: [Flexradio] Problem After Motherboard Change

2010-03-14 Thread Dudley Hurry

Paul,

Also have you run the DPC Latency Checker.. 


http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50058.aspx

which does take you to

http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

The checks for DPC or Delayed Process Calls  or delays caused by 
drivers or programs,  which are killers with real time devices like SDRs 
..PowerSDR can stand some delay ,  but usually anything over 2000 us 
can be a killer and cause what you are describingBut from your 
issues,  sounds like a FireWire communication issue,   check for the 
compatibility of your FW card,   open Flex Driver (the blue icon on your 
desktop)  then click on System   then select the box that says  Show 
Additional Details  then select Scan Now   In the details box you 
will see the OS you are running,  chipset info,  and then at the bottom 
details on the FW controller and if it is compatible with the 
driver..But I would try another FW card,   heck have you tried your 
onboard FW card?   It might work just fine in Win7.  

Let us know the results,   You might have a video driver,  BIOS,  or 
chipset driver that needs to be updated,  look for long DPC times,  this 
might also be the first clue. 



73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Paul - K6HR wrote:
 


My motherboard had to be replaced, and since doing so PSDR freezes whenever
I open another window.

 


I have installed PSDR 1.18.5 Firmware 1.3.0.8 and the 3.5.0.7171 driver
under Windows 7 Professional 64bit. 


Quad Core CPU with 4GB RAM.

 


I have checked the IRQ for the firewire card and it appears to have its own
IRQ (not shared)

I see the video card showing an IRQ of 4294967291 (seems strange)

 


I am using the same PCI Firewire card that I used on the old mobo, a check
indicates it is found to be Compatible, no known issues

 


I went into the BIOS and disabled the mobo's intergrated firewire
controller. (same problem exists when using either firewire port)

 


I have turned off Windows UAC and have the OS running in Test Mode

 


I used to run the FW driver in Normal mode on my old mobo, and have tried
the various Safe Mode levels with the same result.

 

 


Problem: While PSDR is running, if I open another program like IE or Windows
Explorer I hear distortion in the audio for a second or so and then PSDR
freezes. 


If I open another program first, then start PSDR, PSDR will freeze as soon
as I move a scroll bar on the side of any open window.

 


Observations: Previously the Flex firewire driver always showed my radio
connected. 


Now when I open the FW control panel I see a message saying there is no
hardware connected, If I turn the radio on first I don't see this message.

 


Any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated!

 


Paul Delaney - K6HR

 

 


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Re: [Flexradio] flex radio operating voltages

2010-03-14 Thread Dudley Hurry
One other thing to add to what Brian sent,   the output may drop at the 
lower voltages for the same current draw,  simple Ohm's Law..But it 
will  work just fine at reduced voltages ,  just slightly lower output. 

Welcome to the group.  Most of us are pretty decent folks  .. :-)  


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



k4xtt wrote:
Thanks, that is what I needed to know. I will be a new Flex owner next 
week.


On 3/14/2010 2:59 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:

I asked this question some time ago and received the following reply:

All Flex-3000 users:
The dropout voltage of the 5V regulator is 2.5V, all the lower voltage
regulators are LDO types.
I have completed a few simple low voltage tests, the production
calibration tests all pass at ~11.4V.
The preamp is the only non-regulated voltage active component in the
receive path and  has .3 dB less gain at this reduced voltage.
Tested the transmitter on 20mtr USB with a recorded wavefile: Info
panel reads ~10.7 V, Powermaster wattmeter: 83W (Tune @100 drive
level) and listened on a F5K audio sounded same as full voltage of
13.8V.

The Flex-3000 was used mobile traveling from Austin, Tx to the Dayton,
Oh Convention, and return trip operating as K5FRS, with no technical
problems, although band conditions were not the best.

Ken Simmons, K5UHF
FlexRadio Systems
Senior Design Engineer
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-692-9044

Tune in excitement!


   



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Re: [Flexradio] SGC-500

2010-03-14 Thread howa...@howardz.com

Harry,

The SGC-500's built-in auto-band-switching causes high ALC levels at the 
start of the transmission.  Winmor transmissions are so short that the 
ALC level never gets a chance to return to normal.  As you probably 
know, high ALC levels are not desirable for digital modes.


Also, I can tune and use the upper half of 160m on my 320 ft horizontal 
loop antenna - but I can only use the SGC-500 on 160m with auto band 
switching turned off.  The first split second of every transmission - 
when the SGC-500 does the frequency check and band switching - it shows 
bad SWR to both the radio and the tuner.  The tuner makes noises like it 
is frying eggs and it drops the QRO safety line to the amplifier.  The 
SGC-500 does something bizarre during this band switching.  But with 
manual band switching - 160m works fine.


BTW, I consider the Palstar ATAUTO the best auto-tuner available.  It's 
not perfect, but it's the best.


Howard





Subject:
[Flexradio] SGC-500
From:
harryh...@aol.com
Date:
Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:09:23 EST
To:
flexradio@flex-radio.biz

To:
flexradio@flex-radio.biz


Howard: I am curious why you need to switch your SGC for bands when it is  
an automatic function of the SGC-500. I own two of them and they work fine  
without external band switching. I do use external switching to reset the 
SGC if  it senses a bad SWR, etc condition, plus I do remote switch AC on/off, 
etc.  using the Wavenode WN-2 controls. Also use a Palstar AT-AUTO for 
automatic  antenna tuning.
 
Harry

W9BR
 
  


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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 59, Issue 14

2010-03-14 Thread howa...@howardz.com

Les,

The Flex 5000 is not QS/S and thus needs the tricks Steve uses in 
ALE.Since I recently brought to his attention that the Flex 5000 is 
not QS/S, he is modifying the software.  Until a new version is 
available, one should choose KENWOOD in Mars/Ale and you will not hear 
the relays during scanning.  Also tell PowerSDR to identify as a TS2000.


The Kenwood mode will use USB mode, not DIGL, but this only affects the 
filters being used.


Howard




Subject:
[Flexradio] ALE with Flex Radios
From:
Les Warriner leswa7...@earthlink.net
Date:
Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:04:52 -0800
To:
flexradio@flex-radio.biz

To:
flexradio@flex-radio.biz


Has anyone had any experience with ALE with Flex?  Wud sure appreciate 
your thoughts!!

73  Les


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[Flexradio] Operating enjoyment-sitrep

2010-03-14 Thread Barry Meltzer
As a Flex 3000 owner for 5 months, thanks for the following;
-wonderful unsolicited ssb audio reports
-superb receive sensitivity and selectivity
-predictable excellent F3k performance day after day
-despite an aging pc am able to run hrd/780, qrz.com, Firefox, Gmail, and
SDR concurrently
-immediate expertise from Tim or Dudley via reflector or direct phone call
-exceptional corporate commitment to quality as a process, with transparency
regarding problem solving
-ongoing cutting edge advances delivered via software upgrades
-outstanding open commo as part of the corporate culture

My operating needs are not complex as others, but I know value when I
experience it.  Flex
has put a major boost in my ham pleasure.  Licensed in 1957.  Not a
stockholder.
73, Barry


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