Re: [Flexradio] PC mic/headset

[Michael Walker]

Bill

Look at your Flex 5000 manual and you will see you need to use pins 5-8 for
Mic and PTT.  The manual will explain which pins are which and is very
clearly labeled and then you will be good to go.

Mike va3mw


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Bill  wrote:

> I'd like to try my PC headset/mic with my Flex 5000.  I've found
> instructions to do this with a 1500 or 3000
> here.
> Is the schematic, with the exception that the pin-out is different, also
> appropriate for the 5000?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill W8EI
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Re: [Flexradio] PC case with 7" touch screen - any recommendations.

[Neal Campbell]

Here is the touchscreen that Beppe is selling (I believe). Its USB driven.

It has a fold-up "stand" thats quite nice.

73
Neal

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:15 PM, David Walker  wrote:

> Hi flexers,
>
> Can anyone suggest a PC Case with a 7" touch screen that can be used for
> the woodbox software?
>
> I see the Silverstone CW03 (expensive) but nice and the LUXA2 LM200
> which is more of a multimedia box.
>
> I cannot seem to get info at the moment about whether video is send via
> USB or whether they are present with their own firmwares.
>
> Any advise would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Dave
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Re: [Flexradio] PC

[Neal Campbell]

Hi Mike

I do but I am limited to abt 20 wpm and don't like qsk so I never use it. I
don't think you will have any problems with either of these boards.

I will send them from my newegg account so they will come in separate
emails.

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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Mike Tatum  wrote:

> Hi Neal,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'd be interested to see what spec the machines are that you use, so do
> please email them over to me.
>
> Do you use your F3K on on CW and how do you find it?
> The UK importer has assured me that it will be no different to a normal
> radio on CW with a high spec PC,
> I do hope this is the case otherwise I am going to be disappointed!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike.
> M0AWS / F5VKM
>
>
> On 26 Jan 2010, at 17:56, Neal Campbell wrote:
>
>  Hi Mike
>>
>> Not overkill at all although you could get by with a cheaper system. I
>> would be happy to send you the parts list of my low-cost and medium cost
>> systems if you desire, they are proven winners!
>>
>>  73
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal Software
>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>
>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
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>> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC

[Mike Tatum]

Hi Neal,

Thanks for the reply.
I'd be interested to see what spec the machines are that you use, so  
do please email them over to me.


Do you use your F3K on on CW and how do you find it?
The UK importer has assured me that it will be no different to a  
normal radio on CW with a high spec PC,

I do hope this is the case otherwise I am going to be disappointed!

Thanks!

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM

On 26 Jan 2010, at 17:56, Neal Campbell wrote:


Hi Mike

Not overkill at all although you could get by with a cheaper  
system. I would be happy to send you the parts list of my low-cost  
and medium cost systems if you desire, they are proven winners!


 73
Neal Campbell
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Re: [Flexradio] PC

[Neal Campbell]

Hi Mike

Not overkill at all although you could get by with a cheaper system. I would
be happy to send you the parts list of my low-cost and medium cost systems
if you desire, they are proven winners!

 73
Neal Campbell
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Mike Tatum  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> This is my first posting to the list!
>
> I've just purchased a Flex 3000 and haven't yet unpacked it, which I am
> chomping at the bit to do!
>
> I'm in the process of putting together the spec for the dedicated PC just
> to control the radio.
> When I was at the UK importer they had a Pentium PC running the demo F3K
> and I found that it
> could not key morse at all, it dropped most of the characters even at less
> than 5wpm.
>
> Since I am mainly a CW Op it's imperative that the PC I purchase is able to
> send morse at a speed
> upto 35wpm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle.
>
> So I am hoping that some of you guys who are also CW Ops can help me here!
>
> So, the spec of the PC I am thinking of is:
>
> AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Quad Core Processor AM3 (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache)
> New Stylish Midi-Tower ATX Chassis with 550W PSU - Piano Black
> ASUS M4A785T-M Mainboard (DDR3), with integrated HDMI/DVI/VGA Graphics -
> MATX
> 4GB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM - (2x2GB)
> 2x 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
> 22x Dual Layer DVD Writer Super Format +R/-R/RW/RAM
> 1GB ATI Radeon 5450 Graphics Accelerator GDDR5- ***DirectX 11***
> 24" Iiyama (1920x1080) Full HD Monitor - Prolite E2407HDSD
> 7.1 High Definition onboard sound card - for 8 Channel Cinema sound
> 3 Port IEEE 1394 Firewire PCI Card - adds 3x IEEE1394
> Windows XP SP3
>
> What I need to know is if this is over kill?
> Would I be able to get away with a lower spec or not ?
> If so, what spec would suffice?
>
> I do want to be able to run digital modes, namely PSK and WSPR on the same
> PC so this must be taken into account.
>
> I have seen the recommended PC's on the FlexRadio website however no where
> does it mention if they will work 100%
> on CW without dropping characters?
>
> I look forward to some helpful advise coming my way as I want to get my F3K
> on air asap!
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike.
> M0AWS / F5VKM
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
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Re: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

[radioart]

Thanks to all who responded to my question.  I got lots of good input on how to 
control my remote coax switch via parallel port and DDUtil.  So, I should be 
good to go...

73,

Dennis Petrich
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Lakeville Minnesota USA
k0...@arrl.net
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Subject: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

Hello all,

I have the DX Engineering remote coax switch and would like to control it via 
my PC over USB if possible.  Is there a PC interface out there that can select 
1 of 8 relays?

Dennis Petrich
Amateur Radio Station K0EOO
Lakeville Minnesota USA
k0...@arrl.net
952-898-1082

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Re: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

[Steve Nance]

To my knowledge there are NO usb to parallel adapters that work as real
parallel ports. I've spent a lot of time researching these things and they
are all printer ports only. Also, the Flex usb to parallel adapter sold for
the SDR1000 won't work either, it's designed specifically for the SDR1K and
lacks sufficient hardware to be a real parallel port.

DDUtil requires a real parallel port via motherboard or add-on card for its
BCD output.

73,
Steve K5FR


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Have a look at the BCD-10 at http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html 
. Drive it from DDUtil with a parallel port if you can arrange a 
parallel port with a USB to parallel converter.

Jerry W4UK

At 12:43 7/6/2009, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I have the DX Engineering remote coax switch and would like to 
>control it via my PC over USB if possible.  Is there a PC interface 
>out there that can select 1 of 8 relays?
>
>Dennis Petrich
>Amateur Radio Station K0EOO
>Lakeville Minnesota USA
>k0...@arrl.net
>952-898-1082
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Re: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

[Stu Phillips]

There are!

A couple of different options...

I've used a serial controlled 8 port unit for many years - it works well
and is inexpensive.

http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1610.htm

You will need a serial port to control it.

There are USB units out there too - they all seem to be much more
expensive - this is one of the less expensive (but still more than the
above even with buying a Keyspan USB/Serial port).

http://www.controlanything.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_
Code=NCD&Category_Code=USB_Relay_Controller

Jameco has a USB control module

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jameco_pa
ge=46&langId=-1&productId=645263&drill_parents=category_root%24%2470%24%
247030&drill_children=70%24%247030%24%24703010&catalogId=10001&storeId=1
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Kits+%2F+Automation&ddkey=http:ParametricSearchResultsView

Its about $80.

Hope this helps - I've run a remote controlled station for 6 years and
just integrated my Flex 5000 into it.  Works like a charm.

73's Stu N6TTO

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Subject: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

Hello all,

I have the DX Engineering remote coax switch and would like to control
it via my PC over USB if possible.  Is there a PC interface out there
that can select 1 of 8 relays?

Dennis Petrich
Amateur Radio Station K0EOO
Lakeville Minnesota USA
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Re: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

[Jerry Flanders]

Have a look at the BCD-10 at http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html 
. Drive it from DDUtil with a parallel port if you can arrange a 
parallel port with a USB to parallel converter.


Jerry W4UK

At 12:43 7/6/2009, you wrote:

Hello all,

I have the DX Engineering remote coax switch and would like to 
control it via my PC over USB if possible.  Is there a PC interface 
out there that can select 1 of 8 relays?


Dennis Petrich
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Re: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?

[Mel Whitten]

I am not aware of one that uses USB, but there is parallel (port) to BCD 
interface that works with DDutil quite well.


Mel, K0PFX


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Subject: [Flexradio] PC controlled remote caox sw?



Hello all,

I have the DX Engineering remote coax switch and would like to control it 
via my PC over USB if possible.  Is there a PC interface out there that 
can select 1 of 8 relays?


Dennis Petrich
Amateur Radio Station K0EOO
Lakeville Minnesota USA
k0...@arrl.net
952-898-1082

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Suggestions?

[Larry W8ER]

Pete,

I am using an IBM small form factor desktop machine, 3.2 gig P4 with a 
gig of memory...40 gig HD. It's 2 years old. I pick them up from a 
company that buys off lease computers in volume (pallets full at a 
time). With a Microsoft COA for XP Pro and a keyboard and mouse they are 
$150. Typical CPU utilization is 15 to 20% and the machine is dedicated 
to the radio only. I access it on my home network with a remote desktop 
connection so I don't need a monitor or keyboard on it and it does a 
fine job. I've even been using Linux Ubuntu to access it remotely and 
that works too! When Linux PSDR gets here, I'll just reload that 
machine. I think the price is about the best I can find for a machine 
that is not a barn burner but it does the job easily. -- Larry W8ER

n3evl wrote:
> So, the builder starts converting the basement on Tuesday and Pete gets a
> new shack!  This means the SDR1000 will move downstairs leaving its computer
> behind in the office for the xyl to use -- so, I'm going to need a new PC
> pretty soon if the radio is ever to get back on the air.  I'm interested in
> recomendations - I'm thinking Core2 Quad.  I'd be interested to hear what
> works well in terms of mother boards and video cards either self-assembled
> or complete systems.  I'll probably stick with XP for the OS as I need the
> USB interface to HPSDR hardware and, as far as I know, the USB driver is not
> supported on Vista.
>
> 73, Pete, N3EVL
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Suggestions?

[Rob Sherwood]

I have been testing the Perseus and will be testing a Flex 5000A again in the 
near future with an HP 7800 quad core.  It comes with Vista, but you can get 
free XP "downgrade" CDs from HP.   XP "downgrade" option will be around for 
about 1.5 years from many OEMs.   Maybe by then Vista will be replaced with 
some other bloat-ware package.  Hi Hi

73, Rob, NC0B

>>> "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/29/2008 8:52 am >>>


Pete,

I'm using a Dell Inspiron 530 with a Q6600 quad core CPU, 3GB ram, and 500GB
HD running XP.  They are still running the same deal for $499, but
unfortunately no longer offer XP (now Vista Home Premium).  Between office
systems here and several individual purchases for home, we have 4 of these
and none of us have been disappointed.

Adding a decent video card can really make this machine fly.

http://www.deals2buy.com/load/dellhome.php?ecode=6VAFF-DDDADG4 


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So, the builder starts converting the basement on Tuesday and Pete gets a
new shack!  This means the SDR1000 will move downstairs leaving its computer
behind in the office for the xyl to use -- so, I'm going to need a new PC
pretty soon if the radio is ever to get back on the air.  I'm interested in
recomendations - I'm thinking Core2 Quad.  I'd be interested to hear what
works well in terms of mother boards and video cards either self-assembled
or complete systems.  I'll probably stick with XP for the OS as I need the
USB interface to HPSDR hardware and, as far as I know, the USB driver is not
supported on Vista.

73, Pete, N3EVL


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Re: [Flexradio] PC Suggestions?

[Eric Wachsmann]

Pete,

I'm using a Dell Inspiron 530 with a Q6600 quad core CPU, 3GB ram, and 500GB
HD running XP.  They are still running the same deal for $499, but
unfortunately no longer offer XP (now Vista Home Premium).  Between office
systems here and several individual purchases for home, we have 4 of these
and none of us have been disappointed.

Adding a decent video card can really make this machine fly.

http://www.deals2buy.com/load/dellhome.php?ecode=6VAFF-DDDADG4


Eric Wachsmann
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Subject: [Flexradio] PC Suggestions?

So, the builder starts converting the basement on Tuesday and Pete gets a
new shack!  This means the SDR1000 will move downstairs leaving its computer
behind in the office for the xyl to use -- so, I'm going to need a new PC
pretty soon if the radio is ever to get back on the air.  I'm interested in
recomendations - I'm thinking Core2 Quad.  I'd be interested to hear what
works well in terms of mother boards and video cards either self-assembled
or complete systems.  I'll probably stick with XP for the OS as I need the
USB interface to HPSDR hardware and, as far as I know, the USB driver is not
supported on Vista.

73, Pete, N3EVL


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Re: [Flexradio] PC sudden reboot with machine check - was - PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44upgrade to5.10.00.5065

[petervn]

My 2 cents,
Recently I had a PC that rebooted once in a while, times between reboots
becaming shorter withh time. It turned out to be a failure in the power units
+12V, ecoming low with a high ripple, switching of the powerOK signal for
a short time, resulting in a reboot.
A new power unit fixed everyting, including a strange hig pitched sound from 
the hadrdisk once in a while that disapeared the same time.
 
73s peter pa0pvn
 
 
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and those who count to 11.
 



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Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PC sudden reboot with machine check - was - PowerSDR 
won't start after Delta 44upgrade to5.10.00.5065



Thanks Dale and Jims for the info about failing
electrolytic capacitors.  I hadn't heard about that.
< http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=425 >
< http://www.burtonsys.com/bad_BP6/ >
<
http://www.news.com/PCs-plagued-by-bad-capacitors/2100-1041_3-5942647.html
 >


I put the big florescent magnifier on the mother
board and can't see any signs of bulging or
venting.  Of course, the capacitors could still
be failing.  Here's two photos:
< http://www.hamsdr.com/personaldirectory.aspx?id=727 >



I re-seated the boards and connectors and put
the 1 GB memory card into a different slot.
I even loosened and tightened the CPU.



Memory:  I've run MemTest86 for three periods
totaling about 50 hours of run time with zero
memory errors reported, so I hope that we can
rule out memory.  At the end of MemTest86 runs
the CPU was at 45.5 C and the motherboard at 35 C.
A nice utility, thanks Tim!
< http://www.memtest86.com/ >




Prime95:  < http://www.playtool.com/pages/prime95/prime95.html >
Prime95 is used for finding prime numbers, but
has enjoyed popularity as a PC stress-tester.
Thanks Tim!

This will break it.  The first two times I ran
Prime95 it stopped with a rounding error, then
each time after that it would reboot with a
machine check 9c.

I used SpeedFan < http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php >
to monitor CPU and motherboard temperature.

Another good tool is MotherBoard Monitor
< http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=204 >
but that one seems to have lots of bells and whistles.


I experimented with running Prime95 until the CPU
temp rose to 42 C, then stopped the test and let
it cool down, then started it again.  Remember that
MemTest86 ran continuously at 45.5 C.  When I
installed the CPU I used the proper paste.  There
are four fans on this PC, one in the power supply,
one on the CPU, a chassis fan, and a big chassis
fan.  And the shack temperature is 65 F.

I also ran PowerSDR with only 8% CPU and had it
machine check reboot twice with the CPU temp at
37 C and motherboard at 33 C.


It could be temp, caps, a second bad power supply,
solder connection, etc.  This all showed up after
updating the Delta 44 driver and installing VAC.



Anyone know how to read the parameters on for the
00 00 00 9c machine check for an ASUS K8V-X motherboard
with an AMD 64 3000+ ATHLON 64 RTL, and XP Pro?

Here's a few of the 0x parameters from recent
Event Viewer Dumps:
( Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event
Viewer,  thanks Dave)


00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
c4 5f c0 00
00 00 08 33

00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
c4 08 c0 00
00 00 08 33

00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
60 52 20 00
00 00 01 36

00 00 00 02
80 54 61 f0
f2 00 20 00
00 00 08 63

00 00 00 02
80 54 61 f0
f2 00 20 00
00 00 08 63



Mike - AA8K

I hate Windows!


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Re: [Flexradio] PC sudden reboot with machine check - was - PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44upgrade to5.10.00.5065

[Mike Naruta]

Thanks Dale and Jims for the info about failing
electrolytic capacitors.  I hadn't heard about that.
< http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=425 >
< http://www.burtonsys.com/bad_BP6/ >
< 
http://www.news.com/PCs-plagued-by-bad-capacitors/2100-1041_3-5942647.html 
 >


I put the big florescent magnifier on the mother
board and can't see any signs of bulging or
venting.  Of course, the capacitors could still
be failing.  Here's two photos:
< http://www.hamsdr.com/personaldirectory.aspx?id=727 >



I re-seated the boards and connectors and put
the 1 GB memory card into a different slot.
I even loosened and tightened the CPU.



Memory:  I've run MemTest86 for three periods
totaling about 50 hours of run time with zero
memory errors reported, so I hope that we can
rule out memory.  At the end of MemTest86 runs
the CPU was at 45.5 C and the motherboard at 35 C.
A nice utility, thanks Tim!
< http://www.memtest86.com/ >




Prime95:  < http://www.playtool.com/pages/prime95/prime95.html >
Prime95 is used for finding prime numbers, but
has enjoyed popularity as a PC stress-tester.
Thanks Tim!

This will break it.  The first two times I ran
Prime95 it stopped with a rounding error, then
each time after that it would reboot with a
machine check 9c.

I used SpeedFan < http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php >
to monitor CPU and motherboard temperature.

Another good tool is MotherBoard Monitor
< http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=204 >
but that one seems to have lots of bells and whistles.


I experimented with running Prime95 until the CPU
temp rose to 42 C, then stopped the test and let
it cool down, then started it again.  Remember that
MemTest86 ran continuously at 45.5 C.  When I
installed the CPU I used the proper paste.  There
are four fans on this PC, one in the power supply,
one on the CPU, a chassis fan, and a big chassis
fan.  And the shack temperature is 65 F.

I also ran PowerSDR with only 8% CPU and had it
machine check reboot twice with the CPU temp at
37 C and motherboard at 33 C.


It could be temp, caps, a second bad power supply,
solder connection, etc.  This all showed up after
updating the Delta 44 driver and installing VAC.



Anyone know how to read the parameters on for the
00 00 00 9c machine check for an ASUS K8V-X motherboard
with an AMD 64 3000+ ATHLON 64 RTL, and XP Pro?

Here's a few of the 0x parameters from recent
Event Viewer Dumps:
( Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event
Viewer,  thanks Dave)


00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
c4 5f c0 00
00 00 08 33

00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
c4 08 c0 00
00 00 08 33

00 00 00 00
80 54 61 f0
60 52 20 00
00 00 01 36

00 00 00 02
80 54 61 f0
f2 00 20 00
00 00 08 63

00 00 00 02
80 54 61 f0
f2 00 20 00
00 00 08 63



Mike - AA8K

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Mike Naruta]

Hi Jimmy,


If I just want point A to point B, I can
use a spark transmitter and crystal detector.



I was commenting on one high-performance computer
versus multiple lesser computers.

I am certain that if General Motors could have
saved $100 by putting a single, high-performance
computer into my 2000 Corvette, there would be
no hesitation in doing it.



You could compare the SDR-1000 to the Corvette.
It is relatively inexpensive and high-performance.

The SDR-X could be the Ferrari.  Even more
performance, but more cost.

The HPSDR could be the Nitro dragster.  Bleeding
edge exciting performance.  Lots of hands-on work.



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Jimmy Jones wrote:
> Does it need all 16 to get you from Point A to Point B?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Naruta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Flex Radio Reflector" ; "Jim Lux"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> 
> 
>> The manufacturer put 16 computers into my automobile.
>>
>>
>> Jimmy Jones wrote:
>>> No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
>>>

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jim Lux]

At 03:32 PM 9/19/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
>Which means that this radio is not designed to record the freq. I'm on but
>one 11.025 khz below where I'm at right?

Not exactly.. The PowerSDR software sets the DDS on the SDR1000 so 
that the desired frequency comes out somewhere around 11kHz.  Then, 
the software filters and downconverts it to baseband.  If you record 
the raw output of the SDR1000, your desired signal will be at 11kHz 
(or thereabouts.. it varies, because the DDS has some frequencies 
that are better than others for spurs)


>- Original Message -
>From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
>
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:35 PM
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
>
> > I bet it is really 11.025 KHz.  That number should look familiar.  It
> > should, it is the IF of the radio.
> >
> > -Tim
> > ---
> > Tim Ellison
> > Integrated Technical Services
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:24 PM
> > To: Flex Radio Reflector; Jim Lux
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> >
> > No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
> >
> > I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
> > I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
> > Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band
> > on 75
> > meters.
> > >From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
> > Somebody splain that to me?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> >
> >
> > > At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > > >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top
> > fuel
> > > >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5
> > or 10
> > > >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb
> > video
> > card
> > > >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to
> > purchase
> > or
> > > >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably
> > be
> > > >outdated by this time next year anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> > > computers. viz Beowulf.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> > 9/15/2006
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

I'm recording Pre-Processed audio I suppose Tim.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PC Min


> No, I think you are recording the "image" @ -11.025 KHz.  Are you
> recording pre or post processed audio?
> 
> 
> -Tim
> ---
> Integrated Technical Services 
> 
> "Too much of everything is just enough."
> -Rob Barlow
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:33 PM
> To: Flex Radio Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> 
> Which means that this radio is not designed to record the freq. I'm on
> but one 11.025 khz below where I'm at right?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PC Min
> 
> 
> > I bet it is really 11.025 KHz.  That number should look familiar.  It 
> > should, it is the IF of the radio.
> >
> > -Tim
> > ---
> > Tim Ellison
> > Integrated Technical Services
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:24 PM
> > To: Flex Radio Reflector; Jim Lux
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> >
> > No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
> >
> > I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
> > I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
> > Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band
> 
> > on 75 meters.
> > >From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
> > Somebody splain that to me?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
> >
> >
> > > At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > > >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a 
> > > >top
> > fuel
> > > >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5
> > or 10
> > > >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb
> > video
> > card
> > > >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to
> > purchase
> > or
> > > >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will 
> > > >probably
> > be
> > > >outdated by this time next year anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple 
> > > computers. viz Beowulf.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> > 9/15/2006
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Tim Ellison]

Nope.  It takes 16 just the start the car.  HI HI 


-Tim
---
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"Too much of everything is just enough."
-Rob Barlow

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:30 PM
To: Flex Radio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

Does it need all 16 to get you from Point A to Point B?

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Naruta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Flex Radio Reflector" ; "Jim Lux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> The manufacturer put 16 computers into my automobile.
>
>
> Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 
> 9/15/2006
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Tim Ellison]

No, I think you are recording the "image" @ -11.025 KHz.  Are you
recording pre or post processed audio?


-Tim
---
Integrated Technical Services 

"Too much of everything is just enough."
-Rob Barlow

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:33 PM
To: Flex Radio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

Which means that this radio is not designed to record the freq. I'm on
but one 11.025 khz below where I'm at right?

- Original Message -
From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PC Min


> I bet it is really 11.025 KHz.  That number should look familiar.  It 
> should, it is the IF of the radio.
>
> -Tim
> ---
> Tim Ellison
> Integrated Technical Services
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:24 PM
> To: Flex Radio Reflector; Jim Lux
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
> No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
>
> I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
> I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
> Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band

> on 75 meters.
> >From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
> Somebody splain that to me?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
>
> > At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a 
> > >top
> fuel
> > >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5
> or 10
> > >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb
> video
> card
> > >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to
> purchase
> or
> > >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will 
> > >probably
> be
> > >outdated by this time next year anyway.
> >
> >
> > Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple 
> > computers. viz Beowulf.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> 9/15/2006
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

Yes, but you have a special computer.

Actually, I don't need anymore computer than I have either (2.4 gig pent 4
w/gig of ram) but If I was in the market to build or buy another one it
would be a top fuel dragster.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Flex Radio Reflector" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> > I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top
fuel
> > dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or
10
> > other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video
> > card
> > and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase
> > or
> > build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
> > outdated by this time next year anyway.
> >
> >
>
> There's no harm in advocating more power, but in point of fact, I do
> manage to do "50 to 10 other things" quite comfortably on my 2.4 GHz
> Pentium IV and I only have 512 MB to boot, which many people all over the
> net say is deficient.
>
> I even sometimes forget and leave [EMAIL PROTECTED] style programs running,
> something I shouldn't do, but well, I do forget when all is running well.
>
> I just don't have any serious problems whatsoever.  The most I have to do
> is shut off the [EMAIL PROTECTED] stuff.  Generally, it all "just works".
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

Which means that this radio is not designed to record the freq. I'm on but
one 11.025 khz below where I'm at right?

- Original Message -
From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PC Min


> I bet it is really 11.025 KHz.  That number should look familiar.  It
> should, it is the IF of the radio.
>
> -Tim
> ---
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:24 PM
> To: Flex Radio Reflector; Jim Lux
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
> No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
>
> I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
> I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
> Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band
> on 75
> meters.
> >From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
> Somebody splain that to me?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
>
> > At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top
> fuel
> > >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5
> or 10
> > >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb
> video
> card
> > >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to
> purchase
> or
> > >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably
> be
> > >outdated by this time next year anyway.
> >
> >
> > Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> > computers. viz Beowulf.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

Does it need all 16 to get you from Point A to Point B?

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To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Flex Radio Reflector" ; "Jim Lux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> The manufacturer put 16 computers into my automobile.
>
>
> Jimmy Jones wrote:
> > No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
> >
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[lloen]

> I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
> dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
> other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video
> card
> and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase
> or
> build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
> outdated by this time next year anyway.
>
>

There's no harm in advocating more power, but in point of fact, I do
manage to do "50 to 10 other things" quite comfortably on my 2.4 GHz
Pentium IV and I only have 512 MB to boot, which many people all over the
net say is deficient.

I even sometimes forget and leave [EMAIL PROTECTED] style programs running,
something I shouldn't do, but well, I do forget when all is running well.

I just don't have any serious problems whatsoever.  The most I have to do
is shut off the [EMAIL PROTECTED] stuff.  Generally, it all "just works".


Larry  WO0Z


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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jim Lux]

At 08:23 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
>No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.

Hey, two cheap reliable computers vs one bleeding edge hot 
rod...   Sure, there's some investment in making N computers do the 
work of one, but once you've figured it out, scalability is much 
easier.  And, given that hams are *thrifty*, it gives you something 
for which to use that 1981 4.77 MHz 8088 IBM PC sitting out in the garage.


>I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
>I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
>Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band on 75
>meters.
> >From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
>Somebody splain that to me?


Image?


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>To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"
>
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min



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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jim Lux]

At 01:38 AM 9/19/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Jim Lux:
> >Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> >computers. viz Beowulf.
>With multiple SDR1000's (to get bandwith) HI

or for a phased array

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>Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min
>
>At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
> >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
> >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video card
> >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase or
> >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
> >outdated by this time next year anyway.
>
>
>Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
>computers. viz Beowulf.
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Mike Naruta]

The manufacturer put 16 computers into my automobile.


Jimmy Jones wrote:
> No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[petervn]

Jim Lux:
>Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
>computers. viz Beowulf.
With multiple SDR1000's (to get bandwith) HI
73 pa0pvn
groeten Peter
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Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min



At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
>I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
>dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
>other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video card
>and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase or
>build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
>outdated by this time next year anyway.


Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
computers. viz Beowulf.



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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min Cluster

[Allen Boehm]

Here... Here... if you have a cluster might as well use it.
I have an extra five 2 GHz machines it is the Clustering I am having a
problem with:). But it is on the to-do list.


On 9/18/06 10:17 PM, "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
>> I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
>> dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
>> other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video card
>> and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase or
>> build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
>> outdated by this time next year anyway.
> 
> 
> Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> computers. viz Beowulf.
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Tim Ellison]

I bet it is really 11.025 KHz.  That number should look familiar.  It
should, it is the IF of the radio.
 
-Tim
---
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Integrated Technical Services


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:24 PM
To: Flex Radio Reflector; Jim Lux
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.

I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band
on 75
meters.
>From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
Somebody splain that to me?

- Original Message -
From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top
fuel
> >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5
or 10
> >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb
video
card
> >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to
purchase
or
> >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably
be
> >outdated by this time next year anyway.
>
>
> Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> computers. viz Beowulf.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

No way I'm using two computers to do what one can do Jimbo.

I've found a weird problem on the recorder.
I mentioned it the other day and a few answered.
Tonight I found out that I'm actually recording 12.x kcs down the band on 75
meters.
>From 3870 I'm recording a conversation on 3857.5.
Somebody splain that to me?

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From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jimmy Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
> >I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top
fuel
> >dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
> >other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video
card
> >and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase
or
> >build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
> >outdated by this time next year anyway.
>
>
> Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple
> computers. viz Beowulf.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jim Lux]

At 04:56 PM 9/18/2006, Jimmy Jones wrote:
>I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
>dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
>other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video card
>and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase or
>build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
>outdated by this time next year anyway.


Ahhh.. but I maintain the way to do these things is to use multiple 
computers. viz Beowulf.



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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jimmy Jones]

I don't think anyone would disagree that you don't have to have a top fuel
dragster (Quad Core) to run the SDR Program but If you like to do 5 or 10
other things at the same time like I do a 2.4 ghz Pentium 4,128mb video card
and a gig of ram is just barely enough. If a person is going to purchase or
build a new computer, why not go a little overboard. It will probably be
outdated by this time next year anyway.


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Brad A. Steffler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex Radio Reflector"

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC Min


> >
> > You hardly need multiple cores for this.  I run two or three monitors
> > on a fairly vanilla Dell at work with XPpro without much of a
> > problem.  Multiple monitor support is more a matter of choosing
> > appropriate video cards that have the right acceleration that works
> > for the applications YOU want to use (e.g. what's good for 3D
> > rendering and gaming might not be optimum for scrolling through
> > documents).
> >
> > I would suspect that for most people, CPU is not the limiting
> > resource.  Rather it's something like memory bandwidth and/or size,
> > cache size (memory bandwidth in a different form), or disk bandwidth.
> >
> > Jim, W6RMK
> >
>
> All my experience running the SDR console on a couple of machines agrees
> with this.
>
>
> Larry  WO0Z
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[lloen]

>
> You hardly need multiple cores for this.  I run two or three monitors
> on a fairly vanilla Dell at work with XPpro without much of a
> problem.  Multiple monitor support is more a matter of choosing
> appropriate video cards that have the right acceleration that works
> for the applications YOU want to use (e.g. what's good for 3D
> rendering and gaming might not be optimum for scrolling through
> documents).
>
> I would suspect that for most people, CPU is not the limiting
> resource.  Rather it's something like memory bandwidth and/or size,
> cache size (memory bandwidth in a different form), or disk bandwidth.
>
> Jim, W6RMK
>

All my experience running the SDR console on a couple of machines agrees
with this.


Larry  WO0Z


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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Gerald Capodieci]

I live in Los Angeles so waiting for the newest Ferrari will not allow me to go 
any faster. In addition it takes six months to one year to get the bugs out and 
the correct drivers defined. I suggest, build your own, that will allow you to 
replace the main-board with components every year for about $200 a pop and stay 
a the cutting edge for the foreseeable future..
  Jerry

Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  At 01:18 PM 9/17/2006, Brad A. Steffler wrote:
>I was almost ready to start building a dual core box, on which to run
>Power SDR. However, this piece of news is causing me to take
>a wait and see hold up for 3-4 months:
> http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/
>
>This is a review of a four core processor at Tom's Hardware Guide site.
>The initial review is promising, especially for those of us who
>want tor run several programs at once on one machine (possibly with dual
>or triple monitors).

You hardly need multiple cores for this. I run two or three monitors 
on a fairly vanilla Dell at work with XPpro without much of a 
problem. Multiple monitor support is more a matter of choosing 
appropriate video cards that have the right acceleration that works 
for the applications YOU want to use (e.g. what's good for 3D 
rendering and gaming might not be optimum for scrolling through documents).

I would suspect that for most people, CPU is not the limiting 
resource. Rather it's something like memory bandwidth and/or size, 
cache size (memory bandwidth in a different form), or disk bandwidth.

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Jim Lux]

At 01:18 PM 9/17/2006, Brad A. Steffler wrote:
>I was almost ready to start building a dual core box, on which to run
>Power SDR.  However, this piece of news is causing me to take
>a wait and see hold up for 3-4 months:
>  http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/
>
>This is a review of  a four core processor at Tom's Hardware Guide site.
>The initial review is promising, especially for those of us who
>want tor run several programs at once on one machine (possibly with dual
>or triple monitors).

You hardly need multiple cores for this.  I run two or three monitors 
on a fairly vanilla Dell at work with XPpro without much of a 
problem.  Multiple monitor support is more a matter of choosing 
appropriate video cards that have the right acceleration that works 
for the applications YOU want to use (e.g. what's good for 3D 
rendering and gaming might not be optimum for scrolling through documents).

I would suspect that for most people, CPU is not the limiting 
resource.  Rather it's something like memory bandwidth and/or size, 
cache size (memory bandwidth in a different form), or disk bandwidth.

Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Bob Tracy]

Yeah, and as an added benefit you can cook supper with the excess heat :>)

73,

Bob K5KDN

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:19 PM
To: Flex Radio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] PC Min


I was almost ready to start building a dual core box, on which to run 
Power SDR.  However, this piece of news is causing me to take
a wait and see hold up for 3-4 months:
 http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/

This is a review of  a four core processor at Tom's Hardware Guide site. 
The initial review is promising, especially for those of us who
want tor run several programs at once on one machine (possibly with dual 
or triple monitors).

73,


Brad Steffler
KE4XJ


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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Tim Ellison]

Randy,

Congratulations on ordering you SDR1K.  I think you are going to like it
a lot. 

The bottom-line is that your PC should be fine, but...you'll get a lot
of "my computer is a... and I [do/don't] have any problem" answers.

The reason for this is that there are many factors in play here.  I'll
try to outline them below, since this is what I used to make my PC
buying decisions.

For the record, I am using:
AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core (2X) +4400 (with max L1 & 2 cache)
Asus PCI motherboard, 1 GB of RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 6200 graphics
adapter
Soundcard: I have both the D44 and the Firebox.
Operating system: Windows2003 Server, optimized as an application
server.
Process Priority: normal  No processor affinity for PowerSDR is used.

I can set this box up so aggressively that there are pops all the time
with only 20% CPU utilization, so you have to find that "sweet spot"
where it works best for your particular setup.  After I found the "sweet
spot", I can run PowerSDR, VAC, MixW, a logging program, Skype, Outlook
(e-mail) and a web browser and the same time with no problems.  I get
the occasional drop when resizing the screen of an application because
my graphics adapter is my Achilles' Heel of my system.  All in all I am
very happy with my PC.


My rule of thumb for an SDR-1000 PC is to buy a motherboard that will
accept (the socket) the newest generation of CPU now and for the future
(as long as that lasts).  Buy the fastest CPU with the most on-board L1
& L2 cache.  Dual core is not required, but they do run faster than
single cores for most things.  Use the parallel cable for controlling
the SDR-1000.  If your PC does not have a parallel port, spend $15 and
buy one to go in it.  Also spend the money on a good video card that
off-loads as much of the graphics processing to a GPU.

Below are some of the areas you want to think about when making a PC
buying decision.  But just remember, your mileage may vary.


First - operating mode: CW does take a low latency machine to send fast
for semi break-in.  Phone and digital modes take a bit are not as
latency "bound" as CW.

Second - soundcard, bus interface and sampling rates:  The faster the
soundcard sampling rate, the faster the signal is processed (low
latency), but at the expense of having to use larger buffers (that adds
more latency).  The supported and recommended soundcards are the D44 and
Firebox.  The bus you interface the soundcard with is factor to
consider. So how do you get data into and out of the PC; the PCI or
Firewire bus for the D44 and Firebox respectively.  PCI takes less CPU
(faster data transfer, lower latency) than Firewire, but Firewire is
more flexible and used with a good Firewire interface, it comes close to
the performance of a PCI card.
For serious phone work, the Firebox is the way to go.  So as sampling
rates go up, so does CPU utilization, but latency "can" go down.  If
your CPU isn't up for the higher sampling rates, then you have to
increase the buffers to get a good sound.  Some machine will just not
run sampling rates above 48 KHz.  There is no free lunch here.

Third - Graphics adapter:  70% of the CPU for PowerSDR is in the display
presentation (Panadapter).  I'd recommend getting a graphics adapter
that off-loads as much as possible of the graphics processing to a GPU.
This is to reduce the strain on the CPU and reduce the number of
interrupts (interrupts add more latency).

Fourth - RAM:  A lot is not consumed with PowerSDR, but you definitely
do not want to be using the swap file (adds a TON of latency) so make
sure you have enough.

Fifth - CPU: Whether or not it is AMD or Pentium, get the most powerful
CPU you can afford.  Pay attention to the CPU on-board L1 and L2 cache
(bigger is better - faster processing).  A dual core CPU is better than
a single (and someday it really might come in handy when the console and
DSP functions are split), and you want to look at how efficiently the
"cores" communicate with each other and the memory bus.  Don't go on CPU
clock frequency alone.  This can be misleading.  My only hard fast
recommendation is you do not use a Celeron due to the reduced on chip
cache.  Before making my decision, I also looked at head to head CPU
specs for computational (non-graphics) performance since the DSP is the
heart of the radio.

Sixth - Operating System:  I'll raise some hairs here, but in general,
XP is better than 2000.  Windows Server2003 is better than both.
Win2003 is designed to be a high performance oriented operating system
to support application execution.  XP and 2000 Pro and consumer O/S with
lots of things loaded that can slow down the CPU.  Unload things you do
not need.

Seventh - Motherboards:  Some are more efficient that other.  See what
the Gamers say about mobos, they are  pushing them to the limit.

Eight - System interrupts: hardware must interrupt the CPU to do it's
thing.  Lots of hard disk access is a killer so do not run things like
disk indexing and virus scanning.  Also

Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Dudley Hurry]

Randy,

While I am not running an AMD processor,  I use a P4 1.8ghz with 1gb 
of memory,  and the SDR console (SVN  runs any where from 29% to 
40%,  with Zone Alarm, eTrust Anti Virus, Spam filters,  checking 
email with Eudora Mail, browsing the web..   I find that the spam 
filters and anti-virus really eats into the CPUs and the only thing 
that I have to be careful of is when I open a program, the cpu jumps 
to 100% while it's opening the program. As I understand it, the CPU 
cache is really important (I think you have that covered)   And if 
you run anything like Spectra Labs,  it is very CPU intensive 
also.   I run constantly in "Real-Time Mode"  and have not had an 
problems even though there is a warning when you change to that 
"Process Priority" .   But with that new motherboard, you should have 
a real screamer...   Oh and don't forget to have a good video 
card,  will make a big difference in how things are 
displayed...  Mine is a 16 mb ATI Radian on the MB..   My next 
computer for the Flex will be a 3.2 ghz, 1gb, and a NVIDIA 128 
graphics,  dual boot, Windoz, and Ubuntu.

Have fun and good luck,
73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ



At 11:43 AM 9/16/2006, Randy Downs wrote:
>I just ordered a Flex. I have a Sempron 2 ghz 1 gb mem. I am looking 
>to buy an AMD x2 4800+ CPU and MOBO. Also 2gb memory. Will this let 
>me multitask with the Flex without causing choppy tx/rx or is this a 
>problem? I have not received the unit yet (the sdr) but was just 
>wondering. I use HRD as well as other programs now with my other 
>rigs. Obviously the Flex is CPU intesive. I will be very curious 
>about the SDR. I will have to compare it to my other rigs. Any input 
>would be appreciated.
>Thanks
>Randy
>W8RAN
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Gerald Capodieci]

I bought a basic Intel MB with 2.8mhz/1mb cache/512mb ram. I run Win2000 and 
set the Process Priortiy to "Above Normal" and multi-task with the SDR1000 
running. No pops, drop-outs. Everything works just fine.
  Jerry  

David Ackrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The Flex-Radio site says that "Pentium 4 systems are recommended for 
best performance on CW" and, in the advert on the UK distributors site 
it says "You will need however, a PC that is fast, ideally around 
2.8GHz. Windows XP is an absolute necessity. The sound card is 
absolutely crucial to correct operation of the SDR-1000."

Th other thing is that there is a setting in the SDR1000 console which 
adjusts the Process Priority. In 'Normal' I noticed the chopping effect 
when using other things, like email, on the 'High' setting there was 
only a slight click. I was, finally, using a 1.999MHz AMD processor.

Dave (G0DJA)

Randy Downs wrote:
> I just ordered a Flex. I have a Sempron 2 ghz 1 gb mem. I am looking to buy 
> an AMD x2 4800+ CPU and MOBO. Also 2gb memory. Will this let me multitask 
> with the Flex without causing choppy tx/rx or is this a problem? I have not 
> received the unit yet (the sdr) but was just wondering. I use HRD as well as 
> other programs now with my other rigs. Obviously the Flex is CPU intesive. I 
> will be very curious about the SDR. I will have to compare it to my other 
> rigs. Any input would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Randy
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[David Ackrill]

I meant to say that I've used HRD with the SDR as well, but like Mike 
actually tended to use the PowerSDR as the main control, using HRD for 
the features that PowerSDR doesn't have, like logbook, cluster etc., 
etc. I had hoped to transvert to microwaves, and use more of the HRD 
features, but never got that far down the road in the end.

Dave (G0DJA)

Mike Naruta wrote:
>
> It works well with Ham Radio Deluxe.
> The Panadapter is so nice that I usually
> steer it from PowerSDR instead of HRD.
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[David Ackrill]

The Flex-Radio site says that "Pentium 4 systems are recommended for 
best performance on CW" and, in the advert on the UK distributors site 
it says "You will need however, a PC that is fast, ideally around 
2.8GHz. Windows XP is an absolute necessity. The sound card is 
absolutely crucial to correct operation of the SDR-1000."

Th other thing is that there is a setting in the SDR1000 console which 
adjusts the Process Priority.  In 'Normal' I noticed the chopping effect 
when using other things, like email, on the 'High' setting there was 
only a slight click.  I was, finally, using a 1.999MHz AMD processor.

Dave (G0DJA)

Randy Downs wrote:
> I just ordered a Flex. I have a Sempron 2 ghz 1 gb mem. I am looking to buy 
> an AMD x2 4800+ CPU and MOBO. Also 2gb memory. Will this let me multitask 
> with the Flex without causing choppy tx/rx or is this a problem? I have not 
> received the unit yet (the sdr) but was just wondering. I use HRD as well as 
> other programs now with my other rigs. Obviously the Flex is CPU intesive. I 
> will be very curious about the SDR. I will have to compare it to my other 
> rigs. Any input would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Randy
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Min

[Mike Naruta]

Hi Randy,


You have a nice shack photo on QRZ.

I am using an AMD Athlon 64, 2 GigaHertz,
512 MBytes RAM, XP Professional and when
running PowerSDR it's about 10% CPU utilization
as reported on the PowerSDR screen.

It works well with Ham Radio Deluxe.
The Panadapter is so nice that I usually
steer it from PowerSDR instead of HRD.

If I turn on averaging in the displays,
the CPU load goes up some.

If I ran a Noron update it would sometimes
chop, but I got rid of the Norton and am
using Grisoft AVG and ZoneAlarm.



Mike - AA8K


Randy Downs wrote:
> I just ordered a Flex. I have a Sempron 2 ghz 1 gb mem. I am looking to buy 
> an AMD x2 4800+ CPU and MOBO. Also 2gb memory. Will this let me multitask 
> with the Flex without causing choppy tx/rx or is this a problem? I have not 
> received the unit yet (the sdr) but was just wondering. I use HRD as well as 
> other programs now with my other rigs. Obviously the Flex is CPU intesive. I 
> will be very curious about the SDR. I will have to compare it to my other 
> rigs. Any input would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Randy
> W8RAN

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Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Jim Lux]

At 01:43 PM 3/6/2006, Tim Ellison wrote:

Here you go.


Some versions of Windows XP look for devices by periodically writing to
the port. A registry key can disable this behavior.

The following registry setting disables the port writes:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Parport\Parameters
]
"DisableWarmPoll"=dword:0001



But isn't that loaded from one of the other ControlSet00x keys based upon 
the hardware detection?

Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Jim Lux]

At 12:32 PM 3/6/2006, Philip M. Lanese wrote:

I remember seeing a post on the moon-net or vhf reflectors about this problem
WAY back and someone posted that there is a way to kill the "probing" by
changing one of the registry settings.  I do not remember which Windoz was
involved in the discussion but I do remember saving the thread in my "to 
look at

later" bin.  Will see if I still have it.



probably not necessarily a registry thing, but more a boot.ini or something 
in system32 (like something that hal.dll does)


But here is where MS tells you more than you want to know about how XP boots:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c29621675.mspx

Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Tim Ellison]

Here you go.


Some versions of Windows XP look for devices by periodically writing to
the port. A registry key can disable this behavior.

The following registry setting disables the port writes:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Parport\Parameters
]
"DisableWarmPoll"=dword:0001


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Thanks Phil, my rig will appreciate te info.  :))


Bill Nagle



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Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Bill Nagle]

Thanks Phil, my rig will appreciate te info.  :))


Bill Nagle

Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Philip M. Lanese]

I remember seeing a post on the moon-net or vhf reflectors about this problem
WAY back and someone posted that there is a way to kill the "probing" by
changing one of the registry settings.  I do not remember which Windoz was
involved in the discussion but I do remember saving the thread in my "to look at
later" bin.  Will see if I still have it.

Phil, K3IB

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To: "Bill Nagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt


> This is indeed true.  The PC (both Windows and Linux and probably every
> modern OS these days) checks to see "what kind of printer or device"
> you have hooked to your parallel port.  There is little we can do to
> defeat this.

Re: [Flexradio] pc initialization and ptt

[Robert McGwier]

This is indeed true.  The PC (both Windows and Linux and probably every 
modern OS these days) checks to see "what kind of printer or device"  
you have hooked to your parallel port.  There is little we can do to 
defeat this.





Bill Nagle wrote:
It seems that even if the 12 volt power is turned off to the sdr1000, when the 
pc is first fired up it pulls the x2 ptt pin low a couple of times, sometimes 
STAYING low until the sdr software is brought up.  This can be a problem 
depending on what is hanging externally on that circuit.  My proposed 
solution is to put a small "in between" relay in the ptt line and have it's coil 
powered by the 12 volts on the LOAD side of the sdr power switch on the 
front panel.


Bill Nagle



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Re: [Flexradio] PC/radio communication problem?

[Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio]

Mr. Moore,

The fact that you get some clicking means that you are at least
addressing the hardware in some form or fashion.  Make sure that the
SetupForm -> General Tab accurately describes your setup (i.e. make sure
the RFE Present box is checked if it is in your config, make sure USB
Adapter is checked, etc).  Make sure that the USB adapter is attached
securely to the radio.  You might try disconnecting the adapter from the
PC and reconnecting it (make sure the software is off while doing this).
If none of that works, let me know and I'll see what else we can take a
look at.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems


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> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:27 AM
> To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] PC/radio communication problem?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My Flex Radio relays should click when I:
> 1. start the program (with the radio already powered on)
> 2. click the power button in the program
> 3. change bands
> 4. change preamp settings (for me, changing *from* low or off *to*
> medium or high, or back again, causes a relay to click)
> 
> I'm only getting relay clicks when I do (1) and (4) (start the program
> and change the preamp settings). The Flex Radio is deaf as a post to
any
> signals, since none of the band filters are being engaged. I'm using
the
> latest stable version of the software (1.4.4) with a radio that has a
> USB Cypress interface (I installed the drivers from the web site),
> the 100 watt PA, antenna tuner, and RF Expansion board.
> 
> Any ideas why something so basic as On / Stanby button clicking in the
> software doesn't flip the relays? If the software is in Standby,
> changing the preamp settings doesn't cause a relay to click. Perhaps
my
> RF Expansion board that does the USB interfacing is damaged, making
only
> some things work?
> 
> Josh Moore
> HCJB World Radio Engineering Center
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Recommendations for SDR-1000

[Simon Brown \(HB9DRV\)]

Finally official SDR-1000 support in a HRD beta: 
http://www.ham-radio.ch/forums/viewtopic.php?p=15785#15785 - sorry about the 
delay - being stretched in every direction possible.


Groans and moans here (best for me please) or in the HRD forums 
http://www.ham-radio.ch/forums/index.php . If possible please *no* direct 
email as I am swamped and direct mail can be lost via my spam filters and 
senior moments. It also fills up my inbox while I am away - along with the 
medical offers I so kindly receive :-)


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Re: [Flexradio] PC Recommendations for SDR-1000

[Richard Elling]

For the archives...

On Sep 3, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:


I have decided to go with the fastest machine I can afford to build.  
I selected the AMD Athlon 4400+ 2X (dual core) with the VIA chipset 
(Asus motherboard).  This combination had the best floating-point 
performance per $ ratio.  The dual core should come in handy when the 
SDR software evolves additional signal processing features that will 
require benefit from on-chip multi-tasking.  The “real” fun was 
finding a good all steel case and a FCC Class B certified p/s to 
ensure this would not be a spurious RF generator.


This is an excellent choice.  It will be a little while before Intel 
gets its act
together for multi-cores (two die in one package doesn't count).  But 
over
the next few years we will see lots of affordable multi-core processors 
become

available.

This is particularly useful for those applications with real-time 
requirements.

Basically, one core can be busy running a real-time thread or process
which leaves another core free to do the other things we take for 
granted,
like e-mail.  Net-net is that you can get excellent response with a 
slower

and lower-power multi-core solution than with a barn burner.


 
In the mean time I have been evaluating Windows XP 64 and my 
conclusion is that it is not ready for primetime.  The 32-bit emulator 
(WoW) seems to work OK.  The biggest issue is that there is no support 
for 16-bit applications (WoWoW) and a lot of applications use 16-bit 
install programs (ouch).  Also there are no print drivers and limited 
device drivers available.


In general, unless you need an address space larger than 4 GBytes (2 
for some
OSes), then running in 32-bit mode is just fine.  Those of us who use 
lots of cores

and memory don't tend to run Windows anyway.
 -- richard, kb4hb

Re: [Flexradio] PC Recommendations for SDR-1000

[Tim Ellison]

Title: PC Specifications for SDR-1000








Thanks a lot to all that provided there
comments and to Julius W2IHY who called with some interesting observations.

 

I have decided to go with the fastest
machine I can afford to build.  I selected the AMD Athlon 4400+ 2X (dual
core) with the VIA chipset (Asus motherboard).  This combination had the
best floating-point performance per $ ratio.  The dual core should come in
handy when the SDR software evolves additional signal processing features that will
require benefit from on-chip multi-tasking.  The “real” fun
was finding a good all steel case and a FCC Class B certified p/s to ensure
this would not be a spurious RF generator.

 

In the mean time I have been evaluating
Windows XP 64 and my conclusion is that it is not ready for primetime.  The
32-bit emulator (WoW) seems to work OK.  The biggest issue is that there
is no support for 16-bit applications (WoWoW) and a lot of applications use
16-bit install programs (ouch).  Also there are no print drivers and
limited device drivers available.

 

In addition, there are not any real 64-bit
applications (I don’t consider IE a “real” application 
I’m a FireFox guy) available, so I am holding off on Microsoft’s
new bloatware version for a while.

 

Thanks again for all the advice.

 

73 es tx de W4TME



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Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
7:07 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC
Recommendations for SDR-1000



 

Hi all,

 

I think my inquiry may
have been lost in the noise and fury of the e-mail barrage of the past two
days, so I am re-posting my request in the hopes that I can get some additional
feedback on my questions other than use LINUX.  At this time LINUX
isn’t an option.  Maybe it will be in the future.

 

I really want to get my
PC taken care of so I can order my SDR1K and really join the fun!

 



-Tim 
--- 
Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 
Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) 















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
 Ellison
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
12:32 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC
Specifications for SDR-1000



 

To all,

I am starting to put together a PC system for use
with a SDR-1000 and PowerSDR I am planning to get in the near
future and had a couple of questions.

What performance metric is most desirable in a CPU /
motherboard combination?  I want to make sure I get a system
that will meet current and future performance needs.  I have not done a
lot of research on the DLLs or libraries used, so I was hoping to get some
insight from those that know a lot more about the internal operation of
PowerSDR than I.

Specifically, what is most to least important of the
following items (a ranking of sort):

Floating point performance

Integer operation

Memory performance

Multi-tasking performance

CPU cache

Graphics performance

In addition to processor / motherboard metrics,
has
anyone used Windows XP Professional x64 with
PowerSDR?  If so how did the WOW64
emulation handle PowerSDR and is there any advantage to using a
64-bit OS.  

Will PowerSDR be compiled to be a 64-bit app in the
future?

Also, are there any known
compatibility issues with AMD processors?

In advance, thanks for the information.

73 de W4TME

-Tim

---

Tim Ellison

Integrated
Technical Services 

Apex, NC USA

919.674.0044 Ext. 25 / 919.674.0045 (FAX)

919.215.6375 - cell

>>> PGP public key available at all public
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Re: [Flexradio] PC Specifications for SDR-1000

[FlexRadio - Eric]

Title: PC Specifications for SDR-1000









I am not sure the testing situation for
this particular person, and I can assure you that without an optimal setup
(read virtually no other user processes running), you will have trouble running
PowerSDR near the minimum spec.  Having said that, we have run the PowerSDR
software on a 600MHz Athlon.  Slowing down the FPS was necessary, but it was
only running at 65ish % average (not bad for 200MHz below our min spec).

 

Eric Wachsmann

FlexRadio Systems

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry W8ER
Sent: Wednesday,
 August 31, 2005 6:59 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC
Specifications for SDR-1000

 



Eric et all ... Dave W9AD has been
running his SDR1K on a Dell 933/512M and started experiencing some dropouts and
computer effects on transmission. Just today he replaced the 933 with a 2.8G
and so far the indications are that this WAS his problem. He told me that he
had seen the CPU utilization rise to 80-100% with the Dell 933. His computer
was dedicated to the SDR1K only. You might want to rethink the 800 megahertz
minimum.





 





--Larry W8ER







- Original Message - 





From: Eric 





To: 'Tim Ellison' ;
FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz






Sent: Wednesday, August
 31, 2005 7:21 PM





Subject: Re:
[Flexradio] PC Specifications for SDR-1000





 



My
apologies for missing your earlier message.  Obviously the faster the CPU, the
better for real time audio applications.  I am currently developing on a
Celeron 2.4GHz with 512MB of ram and integrated video.  My home machine is
built more for PC gaming, and therefore has a bit more graphics horsepower (ATI 9800, 1GB ram).  Clearly
both of these are way above the minimum 800MHz machine as specified on our
specs webpage.  I would recommend a P4 w/800MHz FSB if you plan to do high
speed CW.  The faster “real-time” timer on the motherboard can
improve the timing on speeds surpassing 35 WPM.

 

There has been no testing
that I am aware of on 64 bit operating systems to date.  For this reason, I
can’t do much more than make a general statement that I believe a 64-bit
version of the PowerSDR is possible and will come to fruition with or without
FlexRadio’s help thanks to the GPL nature of our software.

 

Eric Wachsmann

FlexRadio Systems

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Monday, August
 29, 2005 11:32 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC Specifications
for SDR-1000

 

To all,

I am starting to put together a PC system for use
with a SDR-1000 and PowerSDR I am planning to get in the near
future and had a couple of questions.

What performance metric is most desirable in a CPU /
motherboard combination?  I want to make sure I get a system
that will meet current and future performance needs.  I have not done a
lot of research on the DLLs or libraries used, so I was hoping to get some
insight from those that know a lot more about the internal operation of
PowerSDR than I.

Specifically, what is most to least important of the
following items (a ranking of sort):

Floating point performance

Integer operation

Memory performance

Multi-tasking performance

CPU cache

Graphics performance

 

In addition to processor / motherboard metrics,
has
anyone used Windows XP Professional x64 with
PowerSDR.  If so how did the WOW64
emulation handle PowerSDR and is there any advantage to using a
64-bit OS.  

Will PowerSDR be compiled to be a 64-bit app in the
future?

Also, are there any known
compatibility issues with AMD processors?

In advance, thanks for the information.

73 de W4TME

 

-Tim

---

Tim Ellison

Integrated
Technical Services 

Apex, NC USA

919.674.0044 Ext. 25 / 919.674.0045 (FAX)

919.215.6375 - cell

>>> PGP public key available at all public
KeyServers <<<

 







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Re: [Flexradio] PC Specifications for SDR-1000

[Larry W8ER]

Title: PC Specifications for SDR-1000



Eric et all ... Dave W9AD has been running his 
SDR1K on a Dell 933/512M and started experiencing some dropouts and computer 
effects on transmission. Just today he replaced the 933 with a 2.8G and so far 
the indications are that this WAS his problem. He told me that he had seen the 
CPU utilization rise to 80-100% with the Dell 933. His computer was dedicated to 
the SDR1K only. You might want to rethink the 800 megahertz 
minimum.
 
--Larry W8ER

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric 
  To: 'Tim Ellison' ; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:21 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PC 
  Specifications for SDR-1000
  
  
  My 
  apologies for missing your earlier message.  Obviously the faster 
  the CPU, the better for real time audio applications.  I am currently developing on a Celeron 
  2.4GHz with 512MB of ram and integrated video.  My home machine is built more for PC 
  gaming, and therefore has a bit more graphics horsepower 
  (ATI 9800, 1GB ram).  Clearly both of these are way above 
  the minimum 800MHz machine as specified on our specs webpage.  I would recommend a P4 w/800MHz FSB if 
  you plan to do high speed CW.  The 
  faster “real-time” timer on the motherboard can improve the timing on speeds 
  surpassing 35 WPM.
   
  There has been no 
  testing that I am aware of on 64 bit operating systems to date.  For this reason, I can’t do much more 
  than make a general statement that I believe a 64-bit version of the PowerSDR 
  is possible and will come to fruition with or without FlexRadio’s help thanks 
  to the GPL nature of our software.
   
  Eric 
  Wachsmann
  FlexRadio 
  Systems
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Tim 
  EllisonSent: Monday, August 
  29, 2005 11:32 PMTo: 
  FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizSubject: [Flexradio] PC Specifications 
  for SDR-1000
   
  To 
  all,
  I am starting to put together a PC 
  system for use with a SDR-1000 and PowerSDR I am 
  planning to get in the near future and had a couple of 
  questions.
  What performance metric is most 
  desirable in a CPU / motherboard combination?  I want to 
  make sure I get a system that will meet current and future performance 
  needs.  I have not done a lot of research on the DLLs or libraries used, 
  so I was hoping to get some insight from those that know a lot more about the 
  internal operation of PowerSDR than I.
  Specifically, what is most to 
  least important of the following items (a ranking of 
  sort):
  Floating point 
  performance
  Integer 
  operation
  Memory 
  performance
  Multi-tasking 
  performance
  CPU 
  cache
  Graphics 
  performance
   
  In addition to processor / 
  motherboard metrics, has anyone used 
  Windows XP 
  Professional x64 with PowerSDR.  If 
  so how did the WOW64 
  emulation handle PowerSDR and is there any advantage to using a 
  64-bit OS.  
  Will PowerSDR be compiled to be a 
  64-bit app in the future?
  Also, are there any known 
  compatibility issues with AMD processors?
  In advance, thanks for the 
  information.
  73 de 
  W4TME
   
  -Tim
  ---
  Tim 
  Ellison
  Integrated Technical 
  Services 
  Apex, NC 
  USA
  919.674.0044 Ext. 25 / 
  919.674.0045 (FAX)
  919.215.6375 - 
  cell
  >>> PGP public key 
  available at all public KeyServers <<<
   
  
  

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Re: [Flexradio] PC Recommendations for SDR-1000

[ecellison]

Title: PC Specifications for SDR-1000








Tim

 

I’ll take a stab here. However, you
realize that this is also somewhat of a political question and there are MANY
motherboards out there. I have an ASUS micro ATX MB with
a 3.6 mb Pentium 512 of ram with the (not exactly sure what it is called) but
bank selected ‘dual access’ to the ram. You don’t say if you
are going to build or buy a system the choice is VERY important! A package
system from Walmart, is a lot different from the myriad of ‘put it
together yourself Modding systems!’. My system above works fine with the
SDR and I can get you the specs if you want. It was about 610 with the MB and
512 mb. With 2 mb cache. I run a max of 20% CPU load with SDR running and this
will improve as they go to direct-x and make the code more efficient. The SDR
runs fine on the hardware, and the only limitations are really in the code
produced to date.

 

I really don’t think that with XP
you have control over some of the parameters you have listed. 

 

I also don’t know whether dual cores
are available yet (I go through about a 3 year cycle now before I start
comparing MB’s and they come out daily and I am only at about 1.5 years
now). Obviously a dual core system it pretty slick rather than 2 processors on
board. Much more efficient on the die.

 

My priorities on your list are:

 

Cache as much as you can afford and is
offered. Although quite frankly I have never checked how much of that ultra
speed scratch is in use at any time!

Memory? Sure go for it – Dual Access.

 

Don’t wait to order the SDR. Your
questions sort of indicate you are a modder and probably have more than enough
to run the SDR. My MB is most certainly 1.5 years old and there are better out
there now. It loafs even with NAV and many other co-processes running at the
same time.

 

You can always up the priority of
Powersdr.exe.

 

Eric

 

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
7:07 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC
Recommendations for SDR-1000



 

Hi all,

 

I think my inquiry may have been lost in
the noise and fury of the e-mail barrage of the past two days, so I am
re-posting my request in the hopes that I can get some additional feedback on
my questions other than use LINUX.  At this time LINUX isn’t an
option.  Maybe it will be in the future.

 

I really want to get my PC taken care of
so I can order my SDR1K and really join the fun!

 



-Tim 
--- 
Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 
Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) 















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim
 Ellison
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
12:32 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC
Specifications for SDR-1000



 

To all,

I am starting to put together a PC system for use
with a SDR-1000 and PowerSDR I am planning to get in the near
future and had a couple of questions.

What performance metric is most desirable in a CPU /
motherboard combination?  I want to make sure I get a system
that will meet current and future performance needs.  I have not done a
lot of research on the DLLs or libraries used, so I was hoping to get some
insight from those that know a lot more about the internal operation of
PowerSDR than I.

Specifically, what is most to least important of the
following items (a ranking of sort):

Floating point performance

Integer operation

Memory performance

Multi-tasking performance

CPU cache

Graphics performance

In addition to processor / motherboard metrics,
has
anyone used Windows XP Professional x64 with
PowerSDR?  If so how did the WOW64
emulation handle PowerSDR and is there any advantage to using a
64-bit OS.  

Will PowerSDR be compiled to be a 64-bit app in the
future?

Also, are there any known
compatibility issues with AMD processors?

In advance, thanks for the information.

73 de W4TME

-Tim

---

Tim Ellison

Integrated
Technical Services 

Apex, NC USA

919.674.0044 Ext. 25 / 919.674.0045 (FAX)

919.215.6375 - cell

>>> PGP public key available at all public
KeyServers <<<

 

Re: [Flexradio] PC Specifications for SDR-1000

[Eric]

Title: PC Specifications for SDR-1000









My
apologies for missing your earlier message.  Obviously
the faster the CPU, the better for real time audio applications.  I am currently developing on a Celeron
2.4GHz with 512MB of ram and integrated video.  My home machine is built more for PC
gaming, and therefore has a bit more graphics horsepower (ATI 9800,
1GB ram).  Clearly both of these are
way above the minimum 800MHz machine as specified on our specs webpage.  I would recommend a P4 w/800MHz FSB if
you plan to do high speed CW.  The
faster “real-time” timer on the motherboard can improve the timing on
speeds surpassing 35 WPM.

 

There has been no testing that I am aware
of on 64 bit operating systems to date. 
For this reason, I can’t do much more than make a general
statement that I believe a 64-bit version of the PowerSDR is possible and will
come to fruition with or without FlexRadio’s help thanks to the GPL
nature of our software.

 

Eric Wachsmann

FlexRadio Systems

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005
11:32 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PC
Specifications for SDR-1000

 

To all,

I am starting to put together a PC system for use
with a SDR-1000 and PowerSDR I am planning to get in the near
future and had a couple of questions.

What performance metric is most desirable in a CPU /
motherboard combination?  I want to make sure I get a system
that will meet current and future performance needs.  I have not done a
lot of research on the DLLs or libraries used, so I was hoping to get some
insight from those that know a lot more about the internal operation of
PowerSDR than I.

Specifically, what is most to least important of the
following items (a ranking of sort):

Floating point performance

Integer operation

Memory performance

Multi-tasking performance

CPU cache

Graphics performance

 

In addition to processor / motherboard metrics,
has
anyone used Windows XP Professional x64 with
PowerSDR.  If so how did the WOW64
emulation handle PowerSDR and is there any advantage to using a
64-bit OS.  

Will PowerSDR be compiled to be a 64-bit app in the
future?

Also, are there any known
compatibility issues with AMD processors?

In advance, thanks for the information.

73 de W4TME

 

-Tim

---

Tim Ellison

Integrated
Technical Services 

Apex, NC USA

919.674.0044 Ext. 25 / 919.674.0045 (FAX)

919.215.6375 - cell

>>> PGP public key available at all public
KeyServers <<<