Re: [Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

[Fred Ridder]

More to the point, Adobe support for the 8.x Acrobat generation officially 
ended in November 2011, a full decade ago.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of creamertrainingli...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:29 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Subject: Re: [Framers] activation dialog for old Adobe software

Being that the software came out in 2006, the activation servers are
probably shut down.

This is the current customer service number: 1 (800) 833-6687.
I suspect you are going to have to go up the food chain until you get
someone that can help you.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
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This is for Acrobat Standard 8.0 but I figure the issue's the same as for
FrameMaker.

I've had this on my Windows 7 (now 10) system for four years without
trouble. A few weeks ago I installed Acrobat Reader because some downloaded
PDFs are not compatible. Today I got an activation dialog that seems to be
unable to connect to the expected server. The phone number provided as an
alternative (866 772 3623) seems to be dead.

How do I deal with this?

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Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question

[Fred Ridder]

Have you verified that you do, indeed, have the Canadian English dictionary 
file in the appointed directory? Without the dictionary present, you'll just 
continue to get "can
t find dictionary" messages even if you edit the INI file appropriately (e.g., 
as it was for your old installation). It strikes me as entirely likely that 
your IT team did not install all possible dictionaries and not beyond the realm 
of possibility that one of the ones they omitted was the specific one you need.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Craig, Alison GLI/CA 
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 6:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question


I've been given a way to control the INI file so I won't bug IT for more (with 
the re-imaging, we no longer have "Admin Privileges" on our own PCs).

I just need to know how to adjust maker.ini from US English to Canadian English.



[Frame]
- Generic information -
Language=USEnglish




Alison Craig
Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation
T  +1 604 676 4000, Ext 160 F  +1 604 676 4111 W  
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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:42 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question

If the offer of a refreshment treat of the IT tech's choice, doesn't earn
you the favor of gift copies of the old ini files, try creatively searching
Google.

There are some good FM resources in the larger world.

It would help the IT tech immensely if you provide them the full ini file
paths.

HTH

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:44 PM Craig, Alison GLI/CA <
acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> wrote:

> That would be great...
>
> But they are so swamped with issues that I won't ask (the changeover has
> been massive).
>
>
>
> Alison Craig
> Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation
> T  +1 604 676 4000, Ext 160 F  +1 604 676 4111 W
> greenlightinnovation.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  greenlightinnovation@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 12:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question
>
> Perhaps IT has a backup of the previous image?
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 12:54 PM A Craig  wrote:
>
> >
> > Win 10
> > FrameMaker: Monthly subscription
> >
> >
> > During a recent (massive) IT update, all our computers were re-imaged.
> > Unfortunately, I forgot to grab a copy of maker.ini for use after the
> "big
> > change".
> >
> > Also unfortunately, I cannot remember the exact wording to reset the
> > maker.ini language to Canadian English from "USEnglish" (see below). I've
> > tried a couple of things but I'm getting a message that says:
> >
> > "FrameMaker cannot initialize its dictionaries. Either the
> > LanguageDir entry specified in the initialization file is missing
> > or incorrect, or the files in the LanguageDir are missing or
> > currupted,"
> >
> >
> > Back when I installed FrameMaker this past spring, I know I edited
> > maker.ini to use Canadian English and it worked just fine.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Alison
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] Table Style: Including a Minimum Row Height

[Fred Ridder]

You can also put formatted templates for tables on a reference page so that the 
templates will travel with each file. And each time you create a new chapter 
file, just import the reference pages from a file that has the table templates.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Lin Sims 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 5:02 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Style: Including a Minimum Row Height

Oh, bloody hell. I know it's necessary, but what a PITA.

Well, what you could do is just create a separate FM document with tables
set up the way you want and do a C That's pretty much what Autotext
does, but it lets you add them as menu items so you don't have to go
looking for them.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 4:17 PM A Craig  wrote:

>
> I'd love to use several Silicon Prairie plug-ins, but my request is stuck
> with International IT where they have to assess the plug-ins for security
> risks.
>
> It's already been there at least 4 months and is likely to take several
> more to get an answer.
>
> Fingers crossed.
>
> Alison
>
>
> From: "Lin Sims" 
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software." <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2021 11:40:28
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Style: Including a Minimum Row Height
>
> 
>
> Nope. There's no place on the table designer to do that, and when I
> changed
> the row heights on a table and updated the style, it still came in with
> the
> standard 0/14 for minimum and maximum.
>
> I've found the Autotext plugin from Silicon Prairie to be a great tool for
> things like table formats I use all the time. It's pretty cheap and worth
> the effort of setting up.
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 2:29 PM A Craig  wrote:
>
> >
> > Is there a way to set the minimum Row Height in a Table style?
> >
> > Every time I add a table using my "General" style (and I have lots of
> > them), I have to manually set the minimum Row Height to 5.5.
> >
> > Is there a way to automate this setting by somehow including it in the
> > Table style?
> >
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

[Fred Ridder]

Ummm, how does $29.95/month or $359.88/year (with the generous 0% prepayment 
discount...) translate into "a grand (or whatever)" for a FrameMaker 
subscription? Sure, that's pretty steep if you're only working on a single 
contract, but it's less than half the single-license purchase price in the 
pre-subscription days.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Ken Poshedly 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

My turn. And I know that I'm not alone with what I describe below.

So now that I am doing occasional contract work with FM10, I fear that at some 
time, I also will need to upgrade my desktop hardware and attempt an FM10 
reinstall and may encounter the same thing Bodvar did.
With a giant catalog of various FM files on my desktop, what are my options? 
I've been using Word since the mid-1990s, but totally dislike it and its 
propensity to glitch and do its own thing.
Subscribing to FM2020 (or whatever) for a grand (or whatever) is just not going 
to work for me (on SS and doing some contract work).
-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Fred Ridder]

I suspect the answer is that whoever is creating the equations does not have 
(and does not want to have to pay for and learn how to use) a FrameMaker 
license.

But a perhaps less stupid question is whether it's possible and practical to 
use a free-standing equation editor (e.g., MathType, MathMagic) or a tool that 
is based on LaTeX (e.g. LyX)?  The LaTeX approach is kind of PITA because even 
the best tools are only WYSIWYM (what you see is what you mean​), but most 
professinals consider the end result to be the best quality available.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Lin Sims 
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 8:06 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

Probably a stupid question, but is there a reason you're creating the
equations in Word rather than in Frame's Equation Editor?

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:32 PM  wrote:

> I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are
> being
> created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The
> .docx
> file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
> document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
> image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
> folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
> don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
> modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes
> to
> it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
> reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
> import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
> Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
> I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
> the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
> file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
> resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to
> h*ll
> in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold
> and
> therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
> nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
> blurry/pixelated.

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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Fred Ridder]

https://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Wendy McGovern 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across 
pages? and SetPrint Qs

I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from 
Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody 
actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try 
the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT department has a 
nonproduction computer that I could put it on that wouldn't screw anything up 
with our current Frame.

Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's note: 
 "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness 
to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the 
material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get them to submit 
materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them are volunteer 
authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their name in the book and 
having contributed to the book as an expert on the topic).

I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of it? We 
have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on Windows 10, 
Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by an Admin or is 
it simply something we could put in the Frame software folder ourselves?

Wendy McGovern


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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

[Fred Ridder]

The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the 
given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property is 
set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply or 
clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of A Craig 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...?

And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I
copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both
upper and lower case).

I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today.

Alison



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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is
on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first
started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check
mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is
unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.

Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:
> Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)
> Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which
is where Frame resides)
> 64 bit
>
> I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been
> away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a
> while to come back to me.
>
> I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I
> set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it
> won't retain a specific setting.
>
> Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the
> checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the
> winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text).
>
> No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the
> order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.
>
> Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles
> I've worked on so far.
>
> FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a
> 6mm hanging indent.
>
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Re: [Framers] Using vector images in Frame

[Fred Ridder]

That's because JPG is a raster (i.e. fixed resolution) image format.
You need to use a file format that contains vector images or that can contain 
both raster and vector data. For FrameMaker, this typically means EPS, PDF, or 
EMF/WMF. When I was still using FrameMaker regularly, I usually used PDF 
cropped to contain the image with minimal whitespace borders. One advantage of 
PDF is that FrameMaker displays a better likeness of the graphic in the 
document view than it does with other vector formats (but this may have 
improved in more recent versions of Frame than I last used.)

-Fred


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Subject: [Framers] Using vector images in Frame

I want to make an image with text in it that will retain its sharpness when
the webpage is zoom in.  As I understand things, a vector image will work
for this.  How do I make a vector image with text?  I've made vector text
in Photoshop and Illustrator, but when I save it to JPG it doesn't work as
a vector in Frame.

Thanks!

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Fraction symbols

[Fred Ridder]

If you look in the Windows Character Map tool, you will find the characters ⅓, 
⅔, ⅛, ⅜, ⅝, and ⅞ at Unicode code points 0x2153, 0x2154, and 0x215B thru 0x215E 
in most fonts (I was looking at Arial).  Other fonts, such as Cambria Math, 
have additional glyphs for proper fractions with 5 and 6 in the denominator at 
the code points from 0x2155 thru 0x215A.  Whether these glyphs are included in 
the particular font you are using is another matter.

-Fred


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Subject: [Framers] Fraction symbols

I use Klaus Daube's ETB (love it!) and it has fraction symbols for 1/4,
1/2, and 3/4.  Is there another handy source for additional fraction
symbols?

Thanks!

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Char out of range: 13

[Fred Ridder]

Arial Unicode MS may no longer be available in Wndows 10, but I believe that is 
because the base Arial font was made Unicode compatible and expanded to include 
a large number of Unicode glyphs. I think you should use the Windows Character 
Map tool to view the new and improved Arial font, which *is* part of the 
standard Windows 10 environment,  to see whether it include all the code points 
you require.

-FR


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Subject: [Framers] Char out of range: 13

I get a Char out of range: 13 error message when saving a FM 2017 .mif file as 
a FM 2017 .fm file in several languages. The error doesn't appear to make a 
difference in the FM file, but when I print to PDF, the character(s) that are 
out of range appear as rectangle boxes. I used to fix this by converting the 
font to Arial Unicode MS. With the latest Windows 10 upgrade, Arial Unicode MS 
is no longer an option. I tried switching to Aktiv Grotesk as suggested on the 
forum, but that doesn't work for some of the characters in Czech or Polish 
(there may be characters in other languages as well, but those are the two 
problematic ones right now). Does anyone have any idea what I can try? Thanks 
in advance.

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Re: [Framers] Inserting checkmark in a table cell (FM12)

[Fred Ridder]

One thing that is not intuitively obvious is that you cannot use the displayed 
Unicode character number when using the Windows Alt-key shortcut for entering 
extended characters.  The problem is that Unicode character numbers are always 
expressed in hexadecimal while the Alt-key shortcut works with the Windows Code 
Page 1252 character numbers, which are decimal numbers.  For example, the 
character for a lower-case N with tilde is Unicode character 00F1, but its 
Windows CP1252 character number is 0241 (i.e., 0xF1 equals decimal 241).

The converse is also true: one cannot use the CP1252 decimal number (the 
Alt-code number) when referencing Unicode character numbers.  (Actually, the 
first 9 characters, where the decimal and hexadecimal representations both 
require only a single digit, are identical in CP1252 and Unicode, but 9 points 
out of the 65,535 possible Unicode values is pretty trivial.)

For those of you who have not been mentally translating between decimal and 
hexadecimal for most of the last 25 years, the Windows calculator tool in 
"Programmer" mode makes this really easy.  Any value you enter in decimal, 
hexadecimal, octal, and binary is simultaneously displayed in all four radices 
(or radixes, if you prefer).

-FR


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; Lin Sims 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Inserting checkmark in a table cell (FM12)

Maybe this is clear to some people, but I thought I might clarify this
since I just figured it out myself.

Alt+ works for Unicode fonts as well, but only for the first 255
characters of the font. ANSI fonts are 8-bit fonts, which only have 255
characters. Unicode fonts have a very large number of characters, but
you can still use Alt+ for the first 255 characters of the Unicode
font. In the Windows Character Map, if you select the Advanced view
checkbox, it shows whether the font is Unicode or another font type. For
Unicode fonts, it still shows the Alt keystroke at the bottom-right for
characters in the 255 range. Strangely enough, the Windows Character Map
doesn't show *all* the Alt keystrokes within in the 255 range, even
though they seem to all work.

So as Janet said, in the Windings2 font, ALT-0080 gives you a checkmark.

--
Shmuel Wolfson
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Re: [Framers] Inserting checkmark in a table cell (FM12)

[Fred Ridder]

I suspect that the problem is that the Alt key has special (altered? 
alternate?) functions when the insertion point is inside a table.

I'd try inserting the checkmark character you want to use in a body paragraph 
and then cutting/copying it and pasting it into whatever cells in the table 
need it.  In the long run, pasting the copy might be faster and easier than the 
3 or 4 keystrokes needed to insert the character anew in each location.

-FR


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Subject: [Framers] Inserting checkmark in a table cell (FM12)

How do I do this? Alt/052, Alt/0252 does not work, even if I have set the font 
for the cell to be Symbol (I don't have Dingbats).
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Grammar question

[Fred Ridder]

The minimalist side of me agrees with Cheryl's suggestions.
But the side of me that has answered more customer queries than I care to think 
about is concerned that the minimal version perhaps goes too far.
One thing that bothers me a bit is the the way the noun that immediately 
follows "covers" is singular, so that a naive customer might wonder where to 
fond the other cover(s) on the supervisor.
I also tend to put sequential information at the beginning of instructions 
rather than the end.

My non-minimalist version would be something like:
Before proceeding, remove the covers from all units, including the supervisor 
and each node.

-FR


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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Grammar question

"All" is superfluous; I would remove it.
I would also remove "before proceeding further"; it is assumed that the
user will perform this step before proceeding to the next one.

Revised sentence: Remove the covers from the supervisor and nodes.

As to whether the revision is "better," minimalists would say that content
is easier to read and understand when you streamline a sentence.

Cheryl

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:56 PM Tom Beiswenger <
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com> wrote:

> I prefer "A". "Further," though, is redundant. If you are proceeding, it
> can be presumed that you are going further.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  emhartglass@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
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> Which of the two sentences is better?  Is there a "better", or is it just
> a matter of personal preference?
>
> A. Remove all the covers from the supervisor and nodes before proceeding
> further.
>
> B. Remove the covers from the supervisor and all nodes before proceeding
> further.
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Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

[Fred Ridder]

Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was 
standardized. The so-called Yellow Book that contained the CD-ROM standards was 
published in 1988, the same year that the NeXT was introduced. Instead, the 
original NeXT computer came with a magneto-optical disc drive that used 
removable disc cartridges as both the primary storage and the external media 
device while a magnetic hard drive was an option.

In 1990, the second generation NeXT -- the one that was officially named the 
NeXTcube -- dropped the MO drive in favor of a conventional hard disc as the 
primary storage. A 3.5" HD floppy drive was available as an option and every 
cube I saw was fitted with one. The NeXTstation (the pizza box) came with a 
3.5" floppy standard.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:53 PM
To: Robert Lauriston 
Cc: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
; Ralf Kohler 
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person

Well, Huh! 

Guess my memory isn't all that reliable. I had it in my head that the
NeXT only had a CDROM drive for external media.

Thanks for this, Robert.

On 6/15/20 2:16 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> FM3 for NextStep came on five floppy disks.
>
> https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Framemaker%203.0%20NeXTSTEP/
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:39 PM Grant Hogarth  wrote:
>> As one of the writers who wrote the documentation for that generation of
>> FM (Chris Despopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the
>> documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would
>> have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy
>> any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the
>> FrameMaker directories (under "Manuals", as I recall).
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Re: [Framers] Lines

[Fred Ridder]

If Frame handles lines like most other tools do, the line object you draw has 0 
width. Then when you add width to the line, 1/2 of that width gets added to all 
"sides" of the line, including the ends. In other words, the line takes on an 
"end cap" that is as thick as 1/2 of the line width you've specified.

Some tools let you specify the shape of the end cap (e.g., square, miter, 
rounded), or to specify no cap. But when there is a cap, it always adds to the 
length of the underlying line object.

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Subject: [Framers] Lines

I just noticed something annoying.

Draw a line using the Line tool.  Set it to one point in height, and the
top to something arbitrary, say 50.  Now zoom in close and set the height
to 10 points.  Notice that the line height expands both up and down.

That's annoying.  I would expect the height to expand down, not both up and
down.

Why?  Because now that the line is 10 points in height, the top of the line
is no longer at 50 pts.  It's at 45 points.  And the implication is that
even a 1 point high line set at 50 actually set to 49.5 and not really 50.

This makes using the Top field to set the line's position much less
reliable.

Is there something I'm missing?  It doesn't make sense that one field's
value would make the value of other fields inaccurate.

--Doug
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Re: [Framers] Book and Doc Templates.

[Fred Ridder]

That's exactly the approach I took when I converted nearly 10k pages of docs 
from Word (Word 95 in those days) to Frame for a former, former employer. We 
had pretty good compliance to the old Word template because we had been using a 
complex, scripted conversion to Windows Help, so the conversion actually went 
pretty well except for cases of missing graphics source files. (I still curse 
the memory of writers who pasted graphics directly into Word.)

The Frame templates I imported into were set up to be semi-structured (tags to 
reflect structural function rather than appearance) to facilitate further 
migration to XML. But that migration never happened because the parent company 
sold off our division and shipped the products and docs off to teams in India.

-FR


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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Book and Doc Templates.

Hi Rick,

I haven't used any templates, but what I have done is renamed the para tags and 
any character tags in the word doc to match what I have in frame (i.e., Heading 
1 to Heading One) and then imported the doc file into frame.  It seems to work 
pretty well.  The only thing is, you'll have to go back make separate 
files/chapters, and you'll have some minor para/character clean up.  And you'll 
need to re-import the graphics.

Hope that helps.

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Subject: [Framers] FW: Book and Doc Templates.

Hi Everyone,

I didn't get any responses to my email. If I have done something wrong or 
offended anyone, I humbly apologize. I have been on and off this list since 
1991 and Everyone I have ever dealt with has been great. So again Everyone, if 
I did something wrong, my bad.

Thank you.

Rick


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Subject: Book and Doc Templates.

Hello Everyone,

I am converting a 193 page Word doc to FrameMaker 2017. Does anyone have 
recommended templates for doing this. I am trying to do this in as little time 
as possible. If you can share what you have great, if you are selling what you 
have great also, just let me know what you need.

Thank you all for your help.

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Re: [Framers] MiniToc Disappers from HTML5 Help in Frame 2015

[Fred Ridder]

The ampersand is a reserved character in both HTML and XML.  The character is 
used to delimit the markup string for characters that cannot be typed directly. 
 In HTML and XML, a literal ampersand must be typed as the character entity 
string

which itself uses the ampersand as a delimiter.
The other characters to avoid in path/file names that need to work in HTML are 
less than (  ), greater than (  ), quotation mark (  ) , and 
apostrophe (  ).  All of these characters are reserved in both HTML and 
XML because they have defined uses as markup syntax delimiters.

-FR


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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] MiniToc Disappers from HTML5 Help in Frame 2015

I solved this issue
See post on Adobe Forum

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If anyone has any idea why this should have happened it would be good to
know

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:56 AM Caroline Tabach 
wrote:

> This worked last week and does not work now
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Hope you are all keeping well and safe,
>
>
> I hit a problem.
>
>
> I had a MiniToc that provided hyperlinks at the beginning of each main
> topic in the help file.
>
>
> It was fine for the past year, and then something stopped working.
> Nothing was updated or changed in my system as far as I know.
>
>
> But suddenly, the MiniToc from the Frame doc does not appear in the HTML5
> help file.
>
>
>
> It does have a help condition. In the Frame file when I apply the
> condition it appears, but it does not appear in the Help file that I
> create.  I cannot find anywhere a definition that says the MiniToc should
> not appear in the resulting Help file.
>
>
>
> This all worked very well for the last year, but suddenly does not work
> well today and I cannot work out what could have changed.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I can do?  Or how to solve this?
>
>
> Thanks very much
>
> --
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com
>


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Re: [Framers] In FM 2019, the "Update Book" function "dies" in the middle of a long book

[Fred Ridder]

Oops, right. I knew it was one of those keys in the lower left corner. My 
fingers know better then my mind sometimes...

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] In FM 2019, the "Update Book" function "dies" in the 
middle of a long book

Holding down Shift, not Ctrl. :D



On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:21 AM Fred Ridder  wrote:

> Have you tried opening all the component files before you kick off the
> update book operation? If you don't do this, any kind of "informational"
> dialog like the infamous "missing fonts" message or "inconsistent
> conditions" or "inconsistent color definitions"  messages will make the
> book update hang because the dialog must be dismissed before the file in
> question can be fully opened.
>
> Opening all the files in not as onerous as it sounds. If you hold down
> Ctrl when you pull down the File menu, all the commands (Open, Save, Save
> As) will be "all" commands (Open All, Save All, etc.). Just remember that
> you do have to explicitly save the updated component files after running
> the update because they are not automatically saved if they are in the open
> state when updated.
>
> -FR
>
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of barry.meis...@nuvoton.com 
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:17 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: [Framers] In FM 2019, the "Update Book" function "dies" in the
> middle of a long book
>
> Hi,
> I have a particularly long book (about 30 files, 1200 pages total,
> non-structured FM) that "dies" in the middle (towards the first third,
> actually) of the update (book generation).
>
> I update other books successfully---all the time. It's just this one book
> that has been causing me tremendous, frustrating problems.
>
> Actually, I succeed on the first attempt (typically); but can't get it to
> work after that and this prevents me from being able to work on it.
>
> Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do to "fix" it?
>
> Thanks much in advance,
> Barry Meislin
>
>
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Re: [Framers] In FM 2019, the "Update Book" function "dies" in the middle of a long book

[Fred Ridder]

Have you tried opening all the component files before you kick off the update 
book operation? If you don't do this, any kind of "informational" dialog like 
the infamous "missing fonts" message or "inconsistent conditions" or 
"inconsistent color definitions"  messages will make the book update hang 
because the dialog must be dismissed before the file in question can be fully 
opened.

Opening all the files in not as onerous as it sounds. If you hold down Ctrl 
when you pull down the File menu, all the commands (Open, Save, Save As) will 
be "all" commands (Open All, Save All, etc.). Just remember that you do have to 
explicitly save the updated component files after running the update because 
they are not automatically saved if they are in the open state when updated.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:17 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Subject: [Framers] In FM 2019, the "Update Book" function "dies" in the middle 
of a long book

Hi,
I have a particularly long book (about 30 files, 1200 pages total, 
non-structured FM) that "dies" in the middle (towards the first third, 
actually) of the update (book generation).

I update other books successfully---all the time. It's just this one book that 
has been causing me tremendous, frustrating problems.

Actually, I succeed on the first attempt (typically); but can't get it to work 
after that and this prevents me from being able to work on it.

Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do to "fix" it?

Thanks much in advance,
Barry Meislin


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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Fred Ridder]

I don't believe this is possible, because the "Automatic backup on Save" 
feature dies not actually create a new file. All that feature does is change 
the extension on the last saved version of the file to add a .backup extension 
rather than flagging it to the OS as an unneeded file. The "backup" file does 
not include any of the changes that you have made in the current editing 
session, so IMO it is not really a backup. Maybe it's a *fallback* file, but to 
me a true backup is an extra copy of the *current* file.

-FR


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Subject: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

Hi guys...FM19...I like having an auto backup on Save, but I'd like them put in 
another folder. Possible?

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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" ????

[Fred Ridder]

But that also shifted the subject of interest from the subject of the sentence 
to the direct object, which is a position of secondary importance to the 
subject, which is the semantically weak "it".

-FR


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Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" 

>
> >>> For example, "the auxiliary data bus is 16 bits wide".
> >>Or another way: "It features an 16-bit auxiliary data bus".
>
> >True enough.  But if the subject of interest is the auxiliary bus rather
> than the "it" that

>features the auxiliary bus, I'd argue that the bus deserves to be the
> subject of the sentence.

>Keeping the topic in the subject rather than the predicate makes for more
> powerful, active writing.


Well, in the example the subject of interest was the bus.  I added a
pronoun to make it grammatical.
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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" ????

[Fred Ridder]

Doug Baily wrote:

> For example, "the auxiliary data bus is 16 bits wide".

Or another way: "It features an 16-bit auxiliary data bus".

>
True enough.  But if the subject of interest is the auxiliary bus rather than 
the "it" that features the auxiliary bus, I'd argue that the bus deserves to be 
the subject of the sentence.  Keeping the topic in the subject rather than the 
predicate makes for more powerful, active writing.

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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" ????

[Fred Ridder]

In the style guides I used at my last two employers (Fortune 500 semiconductor 
companies), "16-bit" is hyphenated when used as an adjective before words like 
"register", "bus",  "value", "port", etc.
But when referring to the width of a data path or something similar, the 
preferred form was the non-hyphenated attributive noun phrase "16 bits" rather 
than the hyphenated adjective.  For example, "the auxiliary data bus is 16 bits 
wide".

FR


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Working in a document that has both. Usually used as an adjective, as: "16 bit 
register."

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Re: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow

[Fred Ridder]

What you describe is the way Frame works. Space above is always ignored for a 
paragraph that falls at the top of a frame.

The best approach is to add a special master page for the first page of a 
chapter that has a text frame that starts lower on the page. Inserting blank 
paragraphs is almost never an optimal solution for vertical spacing issues. The 
only time I use a paragraph that contains no text is to hold the anchor for an 
inserted object (e.g. a table, an anchored frame, a text inset).

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 3:21
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Subject: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning 
of a text flow

Hi everyone,

I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph 
at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into 
account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a 
major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? 
As always grateful for any help received.

Best,
Peter
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Re: [Framers] Simple grammar question

[Fred Ridder]

It's really a style issue rather than a matter of grammar. And most recent 
style guides have trended toward downstyling anything that is not a true proper 
noun.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Doug 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 1:48 PM
To: Framers
Subject: [Framers] Simple grammar question

Should the word "position" be capitalized when it is used as a label in a
sentence?  Such as in this one:

The display is in position E.

I'm inclined to leave it in lowercase, but I'm unsure.

Thanks!
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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

[Fred Ridder]

I would have sworn that at some point (maybe around version 9??) FrameMaker was 
improved to allow you to set a "local" default printer that was independent 
from the Windows printer selection. Did I completely hallucinate that? I have a 
pretty clear memory that after some point I no longer installed the setprint 
plugin with updated versions of FramMaker and never saw the infamous "printer 
metrics have changed" message when making a PDF.

-FR


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Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

I believe you are correct. The system will use the whichever printer instance 
is the default. Save As PDF is the least reliable way to do this. The 
setprint.dll works very well and let’s us print with a certain level of 
confidence.

> On Apr 9, 2019, at 17:59, Carol J. Elkins  wrote:
>
> Ditto what Tammy said. That's how I've done it for the past forever.
>
> Carol
>
> At 03:07 PM 4/9/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
>> Rick,
>>
>> Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM?
>> The Sundorne SetPrint utility
>> does this automatically for you.

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Re: [Framers] TOC Formatting Problem

[Fred Ridder]

I suspect that the text frame on the left master page in the TOC file (i.e. the 
layout template for the even pages) is just slightly narrower than the text 
frame on the right master page (used for the odd pages). Safe practice places 
the tab stop for the page numbers slightly inside the edge of the text frame 
rather than right on it to avoid this kind of problem in case something changes 
by just a smidgen.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:29 AM
To: Brian Webb; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC Formatting Problem

That happens to me when there isn't enough room for the right-aligned tab
to fit within the text frame. When I define the tab a little more to the
left, it works OK. I don't know why some of your pages come
me out OK and some not, but try reducing the right-aligned tab.
--
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Technical Writer
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 1:56 AM Brian Webb  wrote:

> Good Afternoon:
>
> I am creating a technical manual and I have a formatting problem with the
> table of contents.
>
> The first and third pages are correctly formatted with the headings on the
> left, strings of periods, and the page numbers on the right. The odd pages
> look like this:
>
>1.2 Installation Prerequisites  1-3
>
> However, the second and fourth pages are not correctly formatted. They
> lack strings of periods between the section names and the page numbers. The
> page numbers are also not on the right side of the page. The even pages
> look like this:
>
>7.4 Database Extents7-10
>
> How do I make the even-numbered pages use the same formatting as the
> odd-numbered pages?
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[Fred Ridder]

The application to use for exporting FrameMaker files to a format that is 
compatible with some other tool is FrameMaker. Absent that, there may be no 
solution.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of John Posada 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:57 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody has
come along and offered an application for people who are FM users but want
to migrate to another vendor for some reason.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> Hi, John:
>
> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have to be an
> early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to Adobe. I use ID
> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
>
> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable on the
> corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list think is the best
> one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog through this effort going
> forward?
>
> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of technical
> writing and publishing. However, security issues in the computing
> environments where it's used have become serious considerations, so, to
> wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM  wrote:
>
> > Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's the
> issue.
> > I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to make their
> > edits.
> >
> > The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be
> > installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> connecting
> > to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> >
> > BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation does
> > nothing.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> > framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
> >
> > Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> confusion.
> >
> > Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save as
> > MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network
> supports,
> > then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by a
> > service?
> >
> > If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate
> > network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF
> Filter
> > for Adobe InDesign 
> > 
> >  to
> > convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and abilities,
> the
> > conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and
> > specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM
> > > installed on their network.
> > >
> > > Are there any other applications that can be installed and open native
> > > FM
> > > 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the book
> > > paradigm?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
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Re: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

[Fred Ridder]

Based on no evidence whatsoever, my guess is that the character palette somehow 
became parked at a location beyond the bounds of your desktop. But I'm afraid 
that I don't remember the trick for recovering off-desktop palettes.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Lin Sims 
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:31 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

As above. I wanted to use the character palette to insert a checkmark.
Clicked Insert > Character > Character Palette.

Nothing. No error message, no character palette, just a bunch of nothing. I
even restarted Frame.

Obviously, I can use the Windows Charmap instead, but I find it very
puzzling that the character palette is suddenly not working for me. I've
got Frame 2019 to the latest patch available. Has anyone else noticed this,
or am I just special?

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Re: [Framers] Extracting images

[Fred Ridder]

Note that if you're using a file compression/archiving utility (e.g., WinZip), 
changing the filename/extension is not really necessary. From the utility's 
Open dialog, you can explicitly specify the .docx filename to unzip it directly.

-FR

From: Framers  on 
behalf of 4XScripts 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 10:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Extracting images

Hi Doug,

- in Word you need *.docx. It only works with *.docx

- Rename YourDocument.docx as YourDocument.zip

- Unzip it

- In the subfolder "media" you can find all images

Good luck

Klaus


Am 14.12.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Doug:
> What's the best way to extract images from Word or from Frame that are
> embedded and not inserted by reference?
>
> I have one particular image that is composed of detailed line art, about an
> inch wide by 6 inches high.  I loaded the DOC into Frame and the detail is
> still sharp and clear, but all attempts to get extract it to an image file
> on disk have resulted in a loss of sharpness/clarity.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Doug
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Re: [Framers] Retired

[Fred Ridder]

I'm in a situation rather similar to Keith.

At the job I had until 2007 I was using FrameMaker intensively every day. But 
the Fortune 500 company that had bought our smallish company in 2000 decided to 
sell off the acquisition, and then a year later decided to close down their 
remaining operations in New Jersey.

At my next employer, another Fortune 500 company where I spent the next decade, 
I was initially using FrameMaker about 1/3 of the time, but that tapered off to 
essentially nothing over the years (have I mentioned how much I detest MS 
Word?). Then in May they decided that the development program that most of us 
had been working on for the last 7 years was no longer strategically important, 
and that it should be transitioned to maintenance mode -- using resources in 
Bangalore rather than New Jersey. And since they had already pledged to 
stockholders that they would cut operating expenses by $1 billion (with a 'b') 
in 2018, this meant that nearly 100 engineers and technical support people 
whose program went away were now redundant to the company.

For the last 5 months I've been trying to figure out whether I'm unemployed or 
whether I've been pushed into retirement two years sooner than I had planned. 
Not going to the office every day has had its attractions, but I can already 
feel my brain getting flabby around the edges from lack of sufficient exercise. 
Until (unless?) I scare up some freelance technical writing or editing gigs, my 
involvement in the tech comm industry is limited to staying active on various 
discussion lists and pretending to still be a practitioner.

So thanks to Keith for all his words of wisdom over they years, and I hope you 
find retirement rewarding.

-FR



From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:23 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Retired

As of last Wednesday, I am now retired, courtesy of a sudden but not
entirely unexpected lay off from the TMX Group (basically the Toronto
Stock Exchange) where I've been for the last seventeen years. This will
likely end any further use of FrameMaker on my part, as I won't be
looking for full-time work again.

I'd like to thank everyone on this list and in the Frame community for
their help over the years. This list has been a great resource and I
hope I've been able to pay some of it back.

Regards

Keith


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics

[Fred Ridder]

Or provide you with a license for Visio. For your purposes, you'd only need 
Visio Standard (rather than Visio Professional, which adds data linking 
capabilities and collaborative features that you don't need), which has a list 
price of $250 for a perpetual license. I've seen Visio offered by third parties 
for less than $100.

I believe that unless you have Visio installed on your computer, you cannot 
insert Visio graphics as embedded (OLE) objects because the link inherent in 
OLE is between two applications -- the original app [Visio in this case] and 
the one that is reusing it [Frame in this case]. The OLE embedding allows you 
to edit the original graphic from within the FrameMaker UI by double-clicking 
on it.

Note that embedding is *not* the same thing as pasting a graphic into Frame. 
Nor is it the same as inserting a graphic by reference. They are three separate 
methods, each of which has its own advantages and disadvantages.

But if you wish to pursue your idea of having "the company" (presumably meaning 
your colleagues...) provide graphics in a FrameMaker-friendly format, my 
personal suggestion would be PDF, particularly if the graphics originated in a 
vector drawing application rather than being raster images (e.g., screen shots 
or photographic images)

-FR



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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics

Thank you for your replies.

This is my first time having to work with a graphic format I couldn't
reference or not having any control over the format. The book is over 3000
pages and at least 2000 of those pages are full page graphic images (all
Visio and I do not have the Visio software). If I try and embed by OLE
this many graphics, is my book going to be an unmanageable size?

Thinking I need to request the company provide me with graphics in a
FrameMaker friendly format.

Julie A. Sigrist
Quality Assurance
Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc.
145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B
Wilmington, OH  45177
(800) 736-3973 x62482
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Re: [Framers] Heading Text in Books

[Fred Ridder]

I suspect that Frame pulls the top-level heading text from each component of a 
book file when the component is added to the book, and then stores a snapshot 
of that information in the book file so that it doesn't have to re-scan all the 
components of the book whenever the user changes the view of the book file. If 
so, the only way to update that information might be to delete the component 
with the out-of-date heading from the book file and then re-add it.


-FR




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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Heading Text in Books

When you're looking at an open Book file in the left pane in FM,
you'll see a button at the top of that pane.  To the right of the
Find/Change button (the magnifying glass) is a button with lines on
it.  Clicking it will toggle between displaying the file names and the
"heading text".  Hover the mouse pointer over the button to see the
tool tip for each toggle.

When Display Heading Text mode is selected, one of the chapters
displays erroneous text instead of what I specified for its Heading
Text.  I don't know how/where these values are set, however, so I
don't know how to change it.  Frame's Help isn't helpful.

Doug Bailey

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Caroline Tabach
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> Do you mean the header?
>
>
> Can you fix using edit variable? Clicking on the pencil icon to edit.
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> Or did you mean something else
> Caroline Tabach
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> בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 בספט׳ 2018, 15:28, מאת Doug ‏:
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>> One of the FM documents in my book has had its heading text changed; I
>> need to change it back.  How do I do this?  Frame won't let me change
>> the heading text in a book as easily as it will the spelling of the
>> filename.
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Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019

[Fred Ridder]

In the past, they have provided free updates to customers who purchased the 
older version within some time frame (30 to 90 days) of the new release. But 
like a lot of things, you only got it if you asked for it.


-FR



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Subject: Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019

My company bought me 2017 last week.

Couldn't Adobe tell them to wait a week?

Caroline Tabach

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Re: [Framers] Line spacing

[Fred Ridder]

Three basic approaches:

  1.  Don't use superscripts or subscripts.
  2.  Increase the minimum line spacing (leading) for the paragraph style so 
that the raised/lowered characters have enough room.
  3.  Turn off automatic line spacing for the paragraph (or for its style) so 
that the spacing doesn't expand and learn to live with collisions between the 
raised/lowered characters and adjacent lines.

If you choose the third approach, you can also spend (or waste...) some time 
futzing with the size and/or position characteristics for subscript and 
superscript to minimize the collisions at the cost of making the 
super/subscripted characters harder to read.


-FR



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Doug 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:57 PM
To: Framers
Subject: [Framers] Line spacing

Sometimes a paragraph's line spacing can be disrupted by superscript
or subscript characters, or descenders, or even by the bullets of a
bulleted list.

What's the best practice for fixing this?

It bugs me when the first two lines of a paragraph have more space
between them than do the subsequent lines.

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

[Fred Ridder]

Unless you are routinely storing your files on a shared drive where other 
FrameMaker users will be accessing them, I strongly recommend turning off the 
"Network file locking" option in the user preferences. If you are the only 
writer, or if all writers keep their working files on their local drive (which 
is generally advised to avoid problems caused by potentially slow file access 
over your network), there is no benefit to enabling the locking feature. 
FrameMaker's locking feature is an ancient implementation that uses the most 
primitive mechanism, and it truly has outlived its usefulness.


-FR



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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:40 PM
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Subject: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

Hi All,



OK, I have tested this one for several applications that you use .temp or
the equivalent of .lck files and in Frame 12 after I save and close a file
or a book, the .lck file is not always being cleared. I noticed this early
on in FM 12 but I guess because I am using FM 12 now exclusively, it has
become more apparent to me. Of course, when I attempt to open a file or book
that I have saved and closed, I don’t expect to receive that annoying
“Locked file” message that requires the extra step of unlocking the
file/book before use.



Case in point – I just updated a book, generated the PDF and because I was
satisfied with the PDF, I saved all the files in the book, closed all files
in the book, and then when I went to close the book, I got an expected
message about saving changes to the book (based on what I had done to the
book) and I clicked Yes. The book closed.



I just went back to open the book, and from File > Open, and then selecting
the book, I get the message that the book is locked, yada, yada, yada. I
opened the book’s directory in Windows Explorer, and voilá, not only was
there a lock file for the book but also for all the individual FM files even
though I had saved and closed them first.



This is driving me nuts.



I opened some Office docs., like for example a Windows doc, then opened a
second session of the same doc., and got the expected .temp files and
read-only messages, but when I closed and saved the files, the .temp files
were gone from my directory. I tested other file types as well like this and
FM is the ONLY application that is giving me this persistency issue.



Anyone else seen this problem with FM12? I am running Win 10, all updated,
64-bit system.



Thanks!



Tammy Van Boening

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Re: [Framers] Perpetual Newbie Question #1

[Fred Ridder]

Because I don't want *any* software to be making permanent changes to the 
formatting of documents that someone else may have carefully designed without 
at least warning me. If I were the only person who ever worked on every 
document that crosses my screen, this would not be an issue because everything 
would have been under my control at every step. But in the real world, nearly 
everything I work on has been the result of collaboration with other 
contributors.


Say I wrote and formatted a draft version of a chapter that used a relatively 
obscure condensed font inside a very dense table. I then send that chapter to 
another writer for some additions or editing, and that person has the "remember 
missing font names" option turned off. When I get the file back, all the 
carefully tweaked tables will now be broken because their FrameMaker 
installation has "helpfully" performed an arbitrary and *permanent* font 
replacement for the special font that allowed me to cram everything into the 
tables. At that point I'd be pretty steamed because someone has just cost me a 
chunk of my time for no good reason.


-FR



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Subject: Re: [Framers] Perpetual Newbie Question #1

Fred,

Why is  "Remember missing font names" being turned on a very good thing?
Just curious.

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Perpetual Newbie Question #1

[Fred Ridder]

Unavailable font specifications can also lurk on reference pages, in master 
page layouts, in unused paragraph style definitions, in top row and first 
column specifications that are embedded in table format definitions, and even 
in graphics (vector image formats contain editable text along with the font 
specifications  for the text). It is not necessary for an instance of the font 
to appear anywhere in the body pages; the warning appears whenever the font's 
name appears in any format specification, even if unused.


There has been no mention of the first "fix" that should be tried to stop 
unavailable fonts warnings:

  *   First, in the FrameMaker Preferences dialog (that's where it used to be 
through at least FM9), *de-select* the "Remember missing font names" option. 
With this option enabled, FrameMaker will make substitutions for unavailable 
fonts that are for the current editing session only; when you save the file, 
the original, unavailable font names will be stored in the saved file. If you 
turn the option off, the file that you save will contain the names of the 
*substituted* font names and not the names of the unavailable fonts; in other 
words, the substitutions will be permanent.
  *   Open the file. If you receive the unavailable fonts warning, just let 
Frame make its substitutions.
  *   Save the file. With the "remember" option turned off, the substitutions 
should be saved.
  *   Re-open the file and confirm the absence of the warning.
  *   Remember to turn the "remember" preference back on, because under normal 
circumstances it is a very good thing.

-FR



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Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Perpetual Newbie Question #1

I did as you suggested, but neither Liberation Serif nor Times (by itself)
appeared anywhere in the file.

Dennis...
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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:48 PM quills  wrote:

> In your maker.ini file there is a section where you can tell framemaker
> when it encounters that font to use a different font. (Font substitution)
>
> Times New Roman is a default font shipped with most OSes. Times is the
> older postscript font.
>
> I did this originally when I was using Macs, and then when I ended up on
> Windows machines.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2018, at 17:14, Dennis Brunnenmeyer <
> dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've used FrameMaker 7.2 on and off over the last 8+ years, yet I still
> > remain somewhat of a newbie. Please forgive me for asking a basic
> question
> > or two now and then.
> >
> > When opening one or more of my documents, I sometimes encounter the
> message
> > that my document contains one or more fonts that are not available on my
> > system. The two that appear are Liberation Serif and Times. In both
> cases,
> > FrameMaker says it will replace these with Times New Roman.
> >
> > I'm rather uncomfortable receiving these warnings and would rather not
> have
> > to concern myself with the meaning and possible impact on my work.
> >
> > I saved the *.fm file as a *.mif document and found numerous appearances
> of
> > the Liberation Serif, but none related to Times. Replacing the Liberation
> > Serif occurrences with Times New Roman, followed by saving the file with
> > the changes made no difference. The *.fm file, when reopened, still says
> > that the font substitution (Liberation Serif > Times New Roman) took
> place.
> >
> > I scoured the Reference Pages for the document but could find no
> references
> > to either Times or Liberation Serif.
> >
> > I'm at a loss as to how to eliminate this unsettling message when opening
> > this document. Your suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dennis..
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Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups

[Fred Ridder]

You can do what you want by using text insets since the insets do not 
inherently trigger a new page like separate files listed in a book file do. But 
text insets have their own set of limitations and peculiarities, particularly 
if you are using cross-references.


-FR



From: Framers  on 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups

Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still
start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the
description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to
more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after
the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps
with topics do.

Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't
have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information
in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and
the information better organized, and then either C back into a single
file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other.

(Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd
like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us
knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at
all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only
Box.)

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:

> I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter
> folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There is
> a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the book,
> I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated
> files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used.  I recall
> playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them,
> so abandoned that idea.
>
> I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and
> groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on "hierarchical
> books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest
> edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not
> complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9.
>
> Mike
>
> On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
>
>> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is
>> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them,
>> or when one is better used than the other?
>>
>> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in
>> Adobe's
>> help files, and I want more in-depth information.
>>
>> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be
>> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what
>> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are
>> nearly
>> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but
>> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if
>> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to
>> trial-and-erroring today until I get it.
>>
>>
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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 updates disables FM printing

[Fred Ridder]

Ken Poshedly wrote:

>"Quills",
>Your sarcasm is noted. I'm just looking for help trying to ward off future 
>problems with Windows 10 updates. And this is the first update since I was 
>"forced" into Windows 10 that has >caused this problem.
>
>Going back to Windows 7 (which I liked) might be tempting, but in the long 
>run, it'll wind up just like Windows XP, forgotten and unsupported.

As will also be the case (eventually) with Windows 10...

-FR
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker Data in Footer

[Fred Ridder]

LEP = List of Effective Pages



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Shmuel Wolfson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:39 AM
To: julie.sigr...@airbornemx.com; Framers - frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker Data in Footer

I don't really understand your requirement very well and I don't
understand what you doing now. Could you please explain it again? Also,
what's a LEP?

Why can't you just insert variables in the header/footer? Than you could
add those variables to a template, remove all other variables from the
template, edit the variables for each book and import the variables from
the template.

Shmuel Wolfson

On 15-May-18 3:22 PM, julie.sigr...@airbornemx.com wrote:
> I am using 2017 unstructured FrameMaker to produce an Aircraft Maintenance
> Manual Supplement which is currently in Word. At the bottom of each page
> needs to be an ATA number, page #, revision # & date, and effectivity
> code. I initially set these up as running headers on the master page and
> used markers on the body page to fill in the information. However, I would
> like to use this information to run a TOC and LEP, but seem unable to when
> text frames are on the master pages.
>
> Could some one suggest a productive and efficient way to set up this type
> of a scenario? I've been using unstructured Framemaker for 10 years but
> these aviation manuals I've recently been tasked with (AMM, IPC, etc.) are
> more complex than the internal procedures manuals I've been doing and
> would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Julie A. Sigrist
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Re: [Framers] Putting Text in a gray box? - Can it be a para tag?

[Fred Ridder]

If your deliverable is a PDF and you embed the font in the file, there should 
be absolutely no problem on any platform. If your deliverable is something 
other than a PDF, it could be a whole different matter.


-FR



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I liked that font when I first discovered it, but can it be seen well on
any system?

Caroline Tabach

בתאריך יום ה׳, 10 במאי 2018, 19:21, מאת Jack DeLand ‏:

> " a monospaced font such as Courier."
> Might one suggest using Source Code Pro here? It's Adobe, it's free, and
> is becoming increasingly popular with developers.
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Re: [Framers] Putting Text in a gray box? - Can it be a para tag?

[Fred Ridder]

Another modern monospaced font that has become fairly popular as an alternative 
to variations on clunky old Courier is Consolas, which has been distributed 
with  Windows OS since the days of Windows Vista. It has good differentiation 
of the various easily mistaken character pairs (1 and lower-case L, 5 and 
upper-case S, etc) and even has a slashed 0 to eliminate confusion with 
upper-case Os.


-FR


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" a monospaced font such as Courier."
Might one suggest using Source Code Pro here? It's Adobe, it's free, and is 
becoming increasingly popular with developers.

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 - Pros, cons and import from Word

[Fred Ridder]

I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestion to use a purpose-built Frame 
template with style names that match the Word styles. At a former-former 
employer I used that approach when converting multiple thousands of pages of 
Word docs (which fortunately used a tightly controlled template) to FrameMaker.


I also second an earlier recommendation to obtain and use Rick Quatro's 
TableCleaner. The table model is *very* different between Word and Frame, and 
Rick's tool instantly cleans up most of the consequences of the differences.


-FR



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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 - Pros, cons and import from Word

You could probably run the template through saving as RTF and then
importing into Frame to get the basic styles converted to tags, although
I've never done that. Word and Frame handle numbering very differently, and
that could cause an issue if that's all you do. Whoever set up the Word
template might also have used Word's Figure and Table captioning tool,
which could cause issues if you want chapter numbers included as part of
the figure or table numbering.

When I've done it, I've always had a built-from-scratch Frame template set
up with tag names identical to the Word style names. You'll still do some
hand-editing, but it would get you about 85-90% of the way.




On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Caroline Tabach  wrote:

> Thanks.
> Currently there is no FrameMaker template of course.
>
> What is the best thing to do?
> The Word template seems very well built. Should I choose to use all the
> Word styles?
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 25 באפר׳ 2018, 16:10, מאת ‏:
>
> > From a day-to-day author perspective it will feel similar enough. You
> have
> > menu reorganization of course, but the F7 key will be your friend (press
> it
> > almost anywhere for a quick contextual search of functions). For the
> import
> > of Word the biggest issues are how styles are used in the source (if not
> at
> > all, then the issue is starting with crappy semantic markup of content),
> > images, xrefs, tables. However, it works pretty well. I got to demo it a
> > few times at events and conferences, and I've used the import myself a
> > decent amount.
> >
> > Again, boils down to the source quality for it.
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: caroline.tab...@gmail.com
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Sent: 4/25/18 7:14 AM
> > Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 - Pros, cons and import from Word
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I used FrameMaker 2015 in my previous position.
> > >
> > > My new employers offered to buy FrameMaker 2017.
> > >
> > > 1. What are the main differences between the versions?
> > >
> > > 2. What is hard to get used to?
> > >
> > > 3. I have to import their guides from Word. I did this in my previous
> job
> > > many years ago. I understand the workflow is much better now. The guide
> > is
> > > a 390 page word doc, the others are much smaller. Tip, Tricks, hints
> > > anything to beware of?
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Caroline Tabach
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Re: [Framers] old FM files

[Fred Ridder]

That's because you're remembering it by the wrong name, Art. It's actually 
called *heroic* open, and it's invoked by an Escape-key sequence: Esc, o, H

(Escape key, followed by lower-case O, followed by capital H).


But I find it very hard to believe that Frame is mistaking a binary FM file (of 
*any* vintage) for text. Do you have any kind of source code editor or hex 
editor (UltraEdit, SlickEdit, emacs) that will allow you to see what's actually 
contained in the file?


-Fred



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Subject: Re: [Framers] old FM files

There used to be an undocumented Force Open command, but I don't remember
the keystrokes and couldn't find it in a quick Google

If you have or can install any older versions than '15, try opening the
files with those and saving them as MIF.


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> I have some old FM files - probably 5.5 vintage - that I am trying to open
> in FM2015. Frame thinks they are text files. I have some other equally old
> files that it opens OK. Any suggestions for how to open old files that
> Frame is confused about?
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Re: [Framers] Publishing Help fails

[Fred Ridder]

Off list:


For the record, I don't think this suggestion is going to be very helpful in 
the case at hand.

Judy is talking about a book with 2400 pages and roughly 100 component FM 
files. And the problem occurs at the 89th *file* not the 89th page.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Carole McCormick 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:23 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Publishing Help fails

When I've had issues like this, I have copied my project, deleted pages from 
the Frame file, and published the help until I can pinpoint what is causing the 
problem. You might start by deleting everything after page 88 and publishing. 
If that is successful, add more pages back and republish.  I know this is 
time-consuming, but I've been able to find and correct problems doing that.

Another thing I have found when I've had a failure is that the problem is with 
an image. So you might want to take a look at any images that are on the page 
where the failure occurs. Remove images and try publishing again. (Working, of 
course, with a copy of the project!)

HTH!
Carole

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Hi Framers,

I have TCS 2015 on a 64-bit Win7 machine with almost 19 Gb free HD space & 16 
Gb RAM.

This is my first time around using FrameMaker 2015 and attempting to publish 
our Help files from FrameMaker.  I learned a lot from Matt Sullivan's course 
and successfully published a "test run" in November, so  I thought I was all 
set and all I'd have to do is update the content, tweak the CSS a little bit, 
and republish.  Well...nothing's ever easy!

I'm publishing a large book (2400 pgs) with about 100 component FM files.

-  All files open in FM without error.

-  Style sheet and mapping are complete.

-  When I attempt to publish to HTML5, the process crashes at the 89th 
document. A "Failed Importing Documents" message appears, then FM closes.  No 
files have been updated, even the first 88.  At least the Date Mod. property is 
still the date I initiated the project.
I contemplated dividing the book and attempting to publish the second half 
alone (as a test or to get the missing image files) but that would more than 
likely cause error messages due to unresolved cross-references.

Since I do have Tech. Comm. Suite, and I'm experienced with publishing CHM from 
RoboHelp, I tried going that route as well.  Everything seemed to go normally 
until I started scanning the output and found some missing images.  I see the 
*.PNG name, but no image.  On further investigation, I find there are almost 
500 image files of 0 Kb!  It appears that all of the "missing images" are in 
sections from the second half of the book (starting before the 89th FM where 
the other process crashed).

The only other thing I can think of is that it needs more memory to publish 
such a large book.  That being said, I *have* removed about 10 Gb of files from 
the HD today.  It's possible I had more free space in November than I do now.  
Is it worth a try to free up more HD space for the compile?

Any words of wisdom are welcome.  I'm about out of ideas.

Thanks in advance,

Judy Bragg
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Re: [Framers] Autonumber format?

[Fred Ridder]

\sn is the "escape" code for an en-space.

Using an en-space will give you a space that is always relative to the 
specified autonumbering string, whereas a tab will give you an absolute 
alignment for the following text. This matters when you have an autonumber 
string that can vary in length (e.g., a one-digit number vs. 2 or 3 digits). In 
your case, with a fixed autonumber string (i.e., constant text only), it makes 
no practical difference.


-FR



From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:29 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Autonumber format?

Hi All,



I have inherited a template that has been manhandled by a gazillion authors
over the years with tons of overrides, etc., and I am in the throes of
trying to clean it up and simplify it greatly. For one of the paragraph tags
in this quagmire, the autonumbering is set to the following:



Required Knowns:\sn and there is a tab stop set to a value of .65.



When I click to place this tag in the document, I do indeed see the phrase
"Required Knowns:" automatically placed, but that is the backslash sn  (\sn)
do?  Can this not be replaced by the \t building block and set the value
accordingly?



Thanks!



TVB



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Re: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

[Fred Ridder]

BTW, the keyboard shortcut for screen refresh is Ctrl+L (unless this is 
something they made go away in recent versions...).


-FR



From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

Have you tried refreshing the screen? Is the extra text there if you print to 
PDF? FM has some problems dealing with screen refreshing sometimes and this may 
just be an example of that. (You can change the screen magnification to see if 
that 'cleans' up the problem, too.)


Craig



From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:09 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

Hello,

I'm observing a weird phenomenon beginning at a particular point midway through 
a graphic-intensive and conditional-text intensive 70-page FrameMaker 7.2 
document.  I Wonder if any of you mavens might have seen this odd problem 
before, as I rarely have any problem with this FrameMaker program and this is 
very novel for me.

Starting just after an inline graphic on page 67 , the two remaining words in 
the sentence look  as though they skidded horizontally out of control.  "as 
needed" was weirdly morphed to display as something sort of like "aass 
nnddeedd" except with the letters mostly superimposed over each other, only 
slightly offset. Below that begins about two pages of conditional text, turned 
on, in which the ghosting is vertical.  It's as though a paper sheet was run 
through a printer twice, a little vertically offset the second time so that you 
see each line ghosted 2-3 millimeters above another copy of the same text.  The 
problem persist on printing and also on PDF creation.

There is something funky with a graphic-containing frame nearby: When I turn on 
borders it shows a double line for its bottom border.  There is also an "end of 
document" character floating about nearby and I have a feeling that this is 
normally impossible (there is another end-of-document character at the true end 
of the document ten pages later).

I'm having trouble deleting the text.  The pages before and after this section 
look ok.

Am I hosed with a corrupt file or might there be hope?  Seem to have some 
relief washing via MIF, but wanted to ask you experts. It won't let me delete 
the offending section to paste in from the washed file.

Thanks for any advice.

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Re: [Framers] OT: Word links to URLs

[Fred Ridder]

They *should* work in a PDF produced from Word as long as they are valid URLs. 
But I admit that I've never tried it with PDFs as the target in the URL.


To see the underlying URL for a Word hyperlink, it should just be a matter of 
toggling the field to view the field code (the URL string plus a little bit of 
code enclosing it) rather than the result (the link string displayed in the 
document). Word lets you do this globally (for *all* fields in the doc, which 
means x-refs, TOC fields, index fields, and all sorts of other stuff) or for 
the field where the insertion point is. The keyboard shortcut for the view 
toggle is Shift+F9, and to go global you just do a Select All beforehand. That 
should give you the kind of global update capability you're seeking.


-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 3:12 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: [Framers] OT: Word links to URLs

Hi Framers,



I have a Word project where I have references to other documents. The text
in Word has the title, but I want to create a link to the document's URL on
a web page. Here are my questions:



1) When I put the links in Word, will they work in a resulting PDF?



2) Is there a way to internally (perhaps with VBA) see the Word text and the
corresponding link URL? Some of the URLs are changing and it would be useful
to be able to batch search on a title and replace the link's old URL with
the new one.



I have about 160 Word files so I would like to be able to apply some
automation here. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.



Rick



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Re: [Framers] TOC Issues in FM 11

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For the space between heading and TOC start, check the master page design. The 
heading and TOC are most likely in separate frames, and their relative 
positions may need to be adjusted.


For the rule beneath the heading, check the paragraphs style definition to make 
sure it has a "graphic frame below paragraph" defined. And check the reference 
pages to make sure that the correspondingly named graphic frame actually exists.



From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:19 AM
To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] TOC Issues in FM 11

Hi, Framers.

When I add a TOC page to a book and try to add a Heading1 paragraph style at 
the top, there is almost 2 inches of space between the Heading1 paragraph and 
the first Heading1TOC entry. The Heading1 is also missing the underline that 
other Heading1 styles have.

How can I fix the spacing problem?

Thanks,

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Re: [Framers] Table default setting change?

[Fred Ridder]

Row-first or column-first numbering is a property of the table style. Just 
define a new table style that has column-first numbering and use that style 
when you insert the table.


-FR



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Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 11:32 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Table default setting change?

FrameMaker 11.0

We routinely use "column-first" numbering when we insert a multi-column table 
beneath an exploded view graphic.

The default, however, is "row-first" numbering.

Can this default be changed and, if so, exactly where and how? (An ini file of 
some kind?)
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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

[Fred Ridder]

Sorry, but your assertion is not correct according to Karen's original query 
(emphasis added:

I want to change all instances of a phrase using one paragraph tag to
another tag. I do not want to change all instances of the phrase (it occurs
using other tags), nor replace the current tag with the new tag (both tags
remain in use). The target phrase-tag combo occurs hundreds of times. Is
this possible through find/change or another automated method? Using FM 11.

According to what she wrote, she specifically *does* want to change the tag. 
It's the tag and not the string she wants to change.

This should be possible in FrameMaker because it is possible to use Copy 
Special to copy just the desired new paragraph tag and do a replace "By 
Pasting" to apply the tag to the paragraph with the found string. The difficult 
part is finding just the instances of the string that are in paragraphs with 
the old tag since Frame does not support searching for both a tag and a string 
in the same process. But it shouldn't be *that* bad to search for the string, 
visually check the paragraph tag in the status bar, and manually choose either 
"Change & Find" to perform the retagging or "Find" to skip to the next instance 
of the string.


-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

Karen doesn't want to change the paragraph tag, she wants to restrict
the change to instances of the string that are in paragraphs of a
particular tag.


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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] [Frame] Kinda wonky '17 support for Dropbox

[Fred Ridder]

The Fortune 500 corporation that acquired our 600-person company had an 
enterprise license for Documentum, so our only expense was a couple grand for a 
small server for our Documentum repository and for 25 or so seats of the 
FrameLink interface software. We got off easy.


-FR



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Dropbox

That was a very expensive system, right? Sometimes you get what you pay for.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> About 15 years ago, our pubs group used FrameMaker with a Documentum 
> repository using FrameLink middleware. It worked like a champ although a 
> couple of our more chronologically senior writers never did manage to wrap 
> their minds around the check-out and versioning paradigms.
>
>
> -FR
>
>
> 
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
> behalf of Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:16 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] [Frame] Kinda wonky '17 support for 
> Dropbox
>
> Has any integrated client in FrameMaker ever worked well?
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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] [Frame] Kinda wonky '17 support for Dropbox

[Fred Ridder]

About 15 years ago, our pubs group used FrameMaker with a Documentum repository 
using FrameLink middleware. It worked like a champ although a couple of our 
more chronologically senior writers never did manage to wrap their minds around 
the check-out and versioning paradigms.


-FR



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Dropbox

Has any integrated client in FrameMaker ever worked well?

I'd skip the FM integration, pause sync in Dropbox while working on an
FM project in a sync'd folder, and turn sync back on afterwards.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> When following the instructions for working on files in Dropbox from FM 17,
> I'm getting a herd of temp files saved with numeric extensions, and errors
> displaying that the file I'm working on can't be saved. Also that the file
> was saved but image data (Frameimage maybe?) was lost.
>
> Anyone else using this feature and getting it to work seamlessly?
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Re: [Framers] active URLs spanning more than one line

[Fred Ridder]

Does "Adobe PDF" appear in your printers list? Adobe changed the displayed name 
for the Distiller virtual printer at least four times that I can remember, but 
it's been "Adobe PDF" for a while, now.


-FR



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> Monique, without tampering with the hypertext marker, if you skinny
down the page margins to force a URL to break to a second line and
then print that page to .ps and distill, can you create my problem or
does your resulting link in the PDF work correctly?

? Do you mean narrow my email message and then print the email message to
.ps and distill? (If I try that, the distiller doesn't show up in my
available printers list.)

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Re: [Framers] URGENT: Applying Frame Updates

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It used to be the case that FrameMaker updates were *non*cumulative. If you 
reinstalled the program you had to run each successive update in order to get 
current. This was one of the top items on the Important Customer wishlist, so 
it did eventually get changed.


As I recall, as of FM10 the updates they issued were cumulative, but they might 
have made the change as early as FM9. But 12 should be OK for sure.



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Subject: [Framers] URGENT: Applying Frame Updates

Are Frame updates cumulative?

I am having crash problems and with a little research I was pointed towards an 
update for Frame 12. This in turn made me realize that when I configured my new 
computer 4-6 weeks ago, I didn't apply any Frame 12 updates (stupid me).

I already have them all downloaded on my hard drive, but when I went to run the 
first update (12.0.1), a dialog opened that specified the 12.0.4 update (not 
the actual update I selected from my hard drive: 12.0.1).

So if the patches are cumulative, I only need to run 12.0.4, correct?

I'm on deadline and can't create my PDF so this is a real pain.

Alison Craig
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Fred Ridder]

It's not entirely correct that Microsoft stopped issuing security patches for 
Windows XP three years ago. That's when extended support officially ended, but 
there have been at least two critical security updates released since then -- 
one in the first year after the official end of support, and one in the last 
week to address the WannaCry/WannaCrypt ransomware attack.



From: Framers  on 
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It should not have problems if you install it on a real XP computer,
except that XP is highly insecure since Microsoft stopped issuing
security updates three years ago.

Windows XP mode works fine for me to run old software under 64-bit Windows 7.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
 wrote:
> Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
> was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
> this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
> solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?
>
> I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

[Fred Ridder]

I would be very surprised to see any bug fixes for older versions of 
FrameMaker. What would be the business case for Adobe expending resources that 
produce absolutely no revenue? If the bug related to a security issue or file 
corruption that caused users t lose work, that would be one thing. But a 
long-standing bug that only annoys users who are trying to use deprecated or 
undocumented features? I'd say that's pretty unlikely to ever have resources 
allocated to it.

-FR


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Let's see what happens with bug-fixes to the older versions.


Craig


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Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

Many, many thanks Rick!
If an update or bug-fix is released, it will hopefully apply downward to at 
least FM10 (which I run at home) and FM11 (which I run at my office) because I 
know for sure that my company will NEVER update to a newer version because it 
costs money. (Plus, I myself prefer to have all my stuff -- program and data 
files -- right on my own hard drive.)
-- Ken in Atlanta


On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:20 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:


 On 2 May 2017 at 14:36, Ken Poshedly wrote:

> Folks,
> At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard 
> shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be 
> done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again 
> this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know what I mean.)
>
> The only fix I know of is to close everything, exit FM, re-open FM and so 
> forth.

Ken, I have filed a bug FRMAKER-2325 stating that frequently all CTRL+xx 
shortcuts do
not work any more. On my system (W7 XP1, x64) this 'feature' exists since about
FM-11. I hoped it would go away with a fresh Windows installation on a new 
laptop -
but it did not. So it definetely must be something with FrameMaker.

I have even discovered that the following actions can trigger the fault:
- switch to another application (e.g. text editor) and back to FM
- switch to Pincackle Studio (a video editor) and back reproduceably creates the
fault.

I have just added to that bug report:
«It seems that not only CTRL-xxx shortcuts are affected, but all Windows 
specific
short cuts (not the ESC sequences). See the lengthy lamento on
http://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg66590.html and 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

[Fred Ridder]

Don't get me started on bullets and autonumbering in MS applications. Once upon 
a time it just worked. And then they started making it more "helpful" and 
automatic... and unreliable and impossible to troubleshoot when it breaks.


But if you want to see a real horror show, spend a while trying to clean up the 
bullets in PowerPoint slide decks that have contributions from a half-dozen 
different engineers in three different countries using four different templates 
(or no template at all). I just went through that exact scenario on 21 separate 
presentations for a Very Important Customer. I *really* hate PowerPoint and the 
way its "master pages" work.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft.
(What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for an 
engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers could correct 
my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used Word's paragraph 
tag-method to tag bulleted text.
I was on page 125 or so, tagged something bullet and voila!, every bullet in 
the book disappeared, yet all "bulleted text" was still tagged that way. I 
tried everything I knew to fix things but to no avail.
But, ah, thank heavens for Ctrl-Z. Everything returned, except for the last 
bullet that I worked on. I don't remember how I "fixed" things that day, but I 
did post a message on the tech-wrl e-mail list, asking how could Microsoft let 
this happen.
The reply / replies were basically, "Because Microsoft CAN (let this happen) 
because it doesn't matter to them since we're just peons."


On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:21 PM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:


 It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of
the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits
the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally
stops working.

I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the
half-dozen systems where I've run FM9 or later. I never used anything
but a generic keyboard with the default driver.

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Peter Gold  wrote:
> Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences:
>
> It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow.
>
> In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard driver
> issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or other input
> devices, multiple display screens and associated drivers? Less exotic, is
> it possible that the usual physical keyboard itself has intermittent keys
> or connections? If it's wireless, does connecting it with a cable fix the
> issue? Charging or replacing its battery? Does the problem persist when
> substituting a different keyboard?
>
> In the software domain, are there utilities running in background, like
> font managers, display customizers, or screen-capture demons?
>
> System domain: Does varying the settings for keyboard repeat speed and
> other adjustments affect the problem? What about trackpad/touchpad/graphics
> tablet sensitivity settings?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

[Fred Ridder]

Umm, if something is completed earlier than originally scheduled, the 
completion date is moved *up*, (or moved forward, or advanced) not moved back. 
Moving back means delaying or postponing.


-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

Folks,
At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard 
shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be 
done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again this 
morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know what I mean.)

The only fix I know of is to close everything, exit FM, re-open FM and so forth.

Is there, praytell, an undocumented feature that toggles keyboard commands on 
and off?
I await ye answers.
FrameMaker 11.0Windows 7 ProfessionalOodles of space and memory.
-- Ken in AtlantaThe Land of the Fiery and Falling Interstates. (Hey! 
Duck!)(Thanks to wonders of fast-curing concrete, a 24/7 work schedule and 
really nice weather, the latest re-opening date was moved back from September 
to mid-June to May 26. Lots of well-deserved bonuses.)Oh, and the five pro-bono 
lawyers for the crackhead who started the fire is blaming the state DOT. We can 
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Re: [Framers] Frame/Distiller Question

[Fred Ridder]

I think the reason for installing FrameMaker after Acrobat is so that it will 
configure itself to use the Distiller instance you have already installed. If 
you do Acrobat after FrameMaker, Frame will be ignorant of the presence or 
location of the Distiller installed by Acrobat, so some of the "automatic" PDF 
generation methods (e.g., Save As PDF, Print to Adobe PDF) may or may not work 
reliably. But if you use an explicit method (e.g., print to PostScript and then 
distill the PS file to PDF, either directly or via a watched folder), either 
installation order should be fine since you will be invoking Distiller 
explicitly.


-FR


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Syed Zaeem Hosain <syed.hos...@aeris.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:40 PM
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Hmmm ... my experience: as long as you stop FrameMaker from installing its 
version of Distiller, it does not matter when you install Acrobat.

So, I tend to do Acrobat last such that I have its latest files in place.

Z

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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame/Distiller Question

IIRC, it's Acrobat first, then Frame as a custom install without its version of 
Distiller.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Lise Bible <rentagoodb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fred,
> I'm going to be in the same boat (new computer) soon, so just to
> clarify your recommendation:
> Frame first
> then Acrobat DC
> (so that the newer Acrobat can replace whatever "headless" version of
> distiller that Frame installs) ?
>
> Thanks,
> Lise
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think you have it backward. What you want to avoid is letting
> FrameMaker
> > replace the newer, full-featured version oif Distiller that comes
> > with
> the
> > Acrobat distribution with its older, headless Distiller.
> >
> > -FR
> >
> > 
> > From: Framers
> > <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com>
> > on behalf of Craig, Alison <acr...@bkultrasound.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:24 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: [Framers] Frame/Distiller Question
> >
> > - Frame 12
> > - unstructured
> > - Windows 7 64 bit
> >
> >
> > I am currently setting up my new computer and I'm trying to remember
> > if you're supposed to install Frame or Acrobat (DC) first in order
> > to ensure that the "headless" (correct term?) version of Distiller
> > is not crushed
> by
> > Acrobat.
> >
> > Can anyone enlighten me?
> >
> > Alison
> >
> >
> >
> > [cid:C68BA528-B945-4CDA-B6B5-120F2C68661F]
> >
> > Alison Craig
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Re: [Framers] Frame/Distiller Question

[Fred Ridder]

I think you have it backward. What you want to avoid is letting FrameMaker 
replace the newer, full-featured version oif Distiller that comes with the 
Acrobat distribution with its older, headless Distiller.

-FR


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- Frame 12
- unstructured
- Windows 7 64 bit


I am currently setting up my new computer and I'm trying to remember if you're 
supposed to install Frame or Acrobat (DC) first in order to ensure that the 
"headless" (correct term?) version of Distiller is not crushed by Acrobat.

Can anyone enlighten me?

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Re: [Framers] Cross reference format (what do you use?)

[Fred Ridder]

Hey, Bernard! How's things up in the Great White North?


At my last three employers (i.e., for the last ~25 years...) we've used 
numbered headings (at least 5 levels, although I always try to hold it to 4 
levels) and numbered figure captions and table titles. Because of this, the 
standard practice has always been to keep the cross-reference format simple and 
only use the label (chapter/section/figure/table) and the number. Old 
fashioned? Yes, but it works and it keeps the clutter down.


Fred Ridder


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
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Subject: [Framers] Cross reference format (what do you use?)

Here is a simple question that I'm sure will have a LOT of opinion. I
hope...

Building some print-friendly xref formats, and I'm curious what people here
actually use. We're all familiar with the function (I think) or at least, we
should be.

You may have text like this:

Chapter 1. Canada
Blah blah
1.A Alberta
Blah blah
1.B New Brunswick
Blah blah

Plus you have tables, figures, equations, sections, examples, steps, etc,
etc, etc.

You link to stuff like "Canada" or "Chapter 1" or "Chapter 1. Canada" or
even "Canada on page 23" or whatever. Some xref content may be "See
<$paratext>" or "<$paranumonly>" or "step <$paranumonly>". You may also
choose to put in sentences like "For more information see section
<$paranumonly> on page\ <$pagenum>. " so that it is a self-contained
sentence.

I don't know. There are a LOT of ways to xref to stuff though.


My question is this: What would be the top 3 or 4 ways *you* xref something?
Not the steps to insert an xref, but the way it looks in your output.

What does the code or the xref look like? Do you put in full sentence xrefs?
Do you use words in them? Do you use quotes around content? I know that
there are a bizzilion ways to xref stuff, so input would be greatly
appreciated.

Lastly, I'm not concerned about online as that can be changed at publish
time. What do you do though in the print materials? For example, if I use
"For more info see pg <$pagenum>. " as a sentence in the online I can just
replace it with <$paranumonly>, or <@paratext>, or whatever. The issue for
me is "what do people do for print" in regards to the numbering, text,
quotes, etc.

Thanks to all.

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Re: [Framers] Hyperlinks

[Fred Ridder]

Oops, those references to Distiller in the last paragraph should have been 
references to Acrobat (or presumably Adobe Reader, as well) because the "Create 
links from URLs" feature operates strictly on the reader side rather than the 
PDF creation side. And if your user has disabled this feature (as is the case 
on my own system), there will be no links in your document unless you 
explicitly encode them via hypertext markers.


I clearly need another cup of coffee...

-FR



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Subject: Re: [Framers] Hyperlinks

What you describe is completely consistent with the way Acrobat's implicit 
hyperlink feature ("Create links from URLs") works. If this preference item is 
enabled in Acrobat's Preferences dialog (General page), Acrobat treats anything 
that looks like a URL (e.g., any string that begins with "HTTP:" or "HTTPS:") 
as if it's a hyperlink. This feature usually works OK if the URL is all on one 
line but falls on its face if the URL is split across two (or more) lines 
because as far as Acrobat can tell the line feed constitutes a whitespace 
character that delimits the URL string.


The proper way to handle URLs in FrameMaker is to explicitly code them in the 
source files with hypertext markers. With that mechanism the marker explicitly 
contains the actual URL (which does not need to exactly match what appear in 
the text of the document), and the string in the text that serves as the active 
link (i.e. the hot spot) is explicitly delimited by a character style that you 
apply. (If you don't apply the character style, the hot spot extends from the 
marker itself to the end of the paragraph, which is generally not desirable.) 
In practice the actual process is simpler than it sounds, but if you need the 
actual steps I can write them up for you.


Yes, it's much easier to do nothing in the source file and let Distiller do all 
the work for you, but Distiller has no ability to mind-read your intentions 
when a URL doesn't fit the pattern it knows to interpret as a URL.


-FR



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Subject: [Framers] Hyperlinks

Some of my url links are not being created correctly when creating a PDF from 
Frame. Most often, this seems to happen if/when a url is split across two lines 
of text but this is not always the case. Does anyone know of a way to prevent 
this from happening?

Also is anyone aware of a good software that would check all hyperlinks within 
a PDF and generate some sort of report broken links?
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Re: [Framers] Hyperlinks

[Fred Ridder]

What you describe is completely consistent with the way Acrobat's implicit 
hyperlink feature ("Create links from URLs") works. If this preference item is 
enabled in Acrobat's Preferences dialog (General page), Acrobat treats anything 
that looks like a URL (e.g., any string that begins with "HTTP:" or "HTTPS:") 
as if it's a hyperlink. This feature usually works OK if the URL is all on one 
line but falls on its face if the URL is split across two (or more) lines 
because as far as Acrobat can tell the line feed constitutes a whitespace 
character that delimits the URL string.


The proper way to handle URLs in FrameMaker is to explicitly code them in the 
source files with hypertext markers. With that mechanism the marker explicitly 
contains the actual URL (which does not need to exactly match what appear in 
the text of the document), and the string in the text that serves as the active 
link (i.e. the hot spot) is explicitly delimited by a character style that you 
apply. (If you don't apply the character style, the hot spot extends from the 
marker itself to the end of the paragraph, which is generally not desirable.) 
In practice the actual process is simpler than it sounds, but if you need the 
actual steps I can write them up for you.


Yes, it's much easier to do nothing in the source file and let Distiller do all 
the work for you, but Distiller has no ability to mind-read your intentions 
when a URL doesn't fit the pattern it knows to interpret as a URL.


-FR



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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 10:51 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Hyperlinks

Some of my url links are not being created correctly when creating a PDF from 
Frame. Most often, this seems to happen if/when a url is split across two lines 
of text but this is not always the case. Does anyone know of a way to prevent 
this from happening?

Also is anyone aware of a good software that would check all hyperlinks within 
a PDF and generate some sort of report broken links?
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Re: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

[Fred Ridder]

But I wasn't suggesting it as a solution for your problem, Lin.


I was only trying to head off listmembers getting the wrong impression from 
Peter's post. A FrameMaker template actually has *lots* of space where 
information can be added to make it self-documenting, and I can personally 
attest to the way this can really save your bacon. We all complain when 
software developers don't adequately comment their code (I once spent hundreds 
of hours tracing through underdocumented code in what was supposed to be a 
foundation library for our customers to use to streamline their own 
development), but underdocumented templates are just as bad.

-FR


From: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:41 PM
To: Peter Gold
Cc: Fred Ridder; Frame Users
Subject: Re: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

As I said to Fred, the problem is that this information has to be VISIBLE in 
the deliverable.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Peter Gold 
<peter@petergold.photography<mailto:peter@petergold.photography>> wrote:
Good reminder, Fred!.

There's something warm and fuzzy when a long-dormant FM feature gets recognized 
for its current usefulness.

Thanks.

My point in suggesting the non-main-content area was intended to make the 
non-printing memory-jogging material always visible to authors, but not in 
deliverables, without any manual effort to display or conceal it.



On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Fred Ridder 
<docu...@hotmail.com<mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Unless something has changed in recent versions of FrameMaker, there is no need 
to restrict yourself to "non-main-content areas" on master pages. The main text 
frames on the master pages are only *placeholder* frames. You can fill them up 
with notes and instructions and whatever  else you want to put in there, and 
none of it will ever appear in the deliverable document. And since you can add 
more master pages beyond what you actually need for your document design, 
there's a relatively unlimited amount of space available.


I used this trick extensively when I was working with a group of more than 25 
writers at a previous employer (back in the FM6 days) when we were migrating a 
hundred or so documents from Word to FrameMaker. I haven't had need to use this 
trick in about a decade, but I can't imagine that Adobe would have changed the 
basic document model so completely that it no longer works.

-FR






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Re: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

[Fred Ridder]

Unless something has changed in recent versions of FrameMaker, there is no need 
to restrict yourself to "non-main-content areas" on master pages. The main text 
frames on the master pages are only *placeholder* frames. You can fill them up 
with notes and instructions and whatever  else you want to put in there, and 
none of it will ever appear in the deliverable document. And since you can add 
more master pages beyond what you actually need for your document design, 
there's a relatively unlimited amount of space available.


I used this trick extensively when I was working with a group of more than 25 
writers at a previous employer (back in the FM6 days) when we were migrating a 
hundred or so documents from Word to FrameMaker. I haven't had need to use this 
trick in about a decade, but I can't imagine that Adobe would have changed the 
basic document model so completely that it no longer works.

-FR


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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Lin Sims
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

Have you thought of displaying these and other useful reminders, hints,
keys, legends, indicators, etc., in header/footer or other non-main-content
areas on master pages? You can contain them in anchored frames whose parent
paragraph was conditionalized so that a single show/hide command would be
the only action needed. This "master" condition name and a brief
instruction could be displayed in a non-printing color, so it would always
be visible.

This is one missing FrameMaker feature that, IIRC, has never been
requested, namely a place to display such info outside the main content
area. Layout applications, like InDesign, offer such non-printing bleed and
slug areas. In FM, the convention has been, when needed, to design oversize
pages and use cropping marks.

HTH

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:

> Earlier I got excellent advice on how to build conditional expressions. I'm
> hoping someone here has thoughts on the above. This question actually
> concerns the same set of files with 8 or 10 different condition tags in it.
>
> My boss has a hard time remembering what each condition indicator is
> actually indicating. As a result, he has asked me to create numerous
> versions of the document set that have various conditions turned on, but
> only one of the indicators being visible.
>
> That is to say, if the document has conditions A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H,
> he wants to see the information tagged A, D, F, and G, but he only wants
> the INDICATOR for F to be visible.
>
> Right now I'm using MIF snippets to reset the colors for A, D, and G to
> black on white (having discovered that As-Is just doesn't cut it), and
> another MIF snippet to reset them to their normal colors, but it sure would
> be nice if I could toggle the indicators for individual conditions. The way
> I'm doing it is a bit error prone, and it is also very tedious.
>
> Is this something that could be done with an ExpressScript or MIF editing?
> Is it worth putting individually toggleable condition indicators in as a
> feature request with Adobe? Am I the only person with an issue like this?
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Re: [Framers] Mif wash .book files

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Are you able to open the MIF file *before* you make your deletions? If so, I'd 
have to guess that something is happening in the MIF editing that is not kosher 
and is, in fact, corrupting the file.


Have you tried using any other text editor besides Notepad? It would be good to 
eliminate that application as the possible cause of the problem.


-FR



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2016-11-17-04T17:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system

FrameMaker 2015 Release (13.0.5.547) installed on workstation

FrameMaker source and inset files are on a server on our local area network

==

Help, please, even if only to tell me that I'm "holding my mouth wrong."

With [BookName].book open, on the menu bar, I choose File | Save Book As... > 
MIF 2015 (.mif).  The program saves the .book file as [BookName].mif.

Through Windows Explorer, I open [BookName].mif with Notepad, delete various 
and sundry cruft such bad color definitions, old character tags, and old 
conditional text tags.

I save [BookName].mif and exit Notepad.

Through Windows Explorer, I try to open [BookName].mif with FrameMaker 2015, 
which displays the "Unknown file type" window.

In the "Unknown file type" window, there are numerous types of file listed.  
"MIF" is among the choices, but .fm is not.

When I choose "MIF" and the "Convert" button, the program complains that "The 
filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation."

¿Am I the only one who has experienced this?

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
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Re: [Framers] crash saving to XML - resolved, sort of

[Fred Ridder]

In past years, I've seen problems when any directories (folders) in the path 
contain one or more spaces. As a result I have *always* used either camelCase 
or underscores as separators in multi-word folder names just to avoid the whole 
issue. Windows itself doesn't care, but some applications, particularly ones 
with UNIX somewhere in their history, *do* care.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Peter Gold 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:09 AM
To: Fred Wersan
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] crash saving to XML - resolved, sort of

Just a guess based on having been bitten by odd bugs over the years with
various applications on various platforms:

P,erhaps the shorter pathname involved in saving to Desktop eliminates
either particular characters, or avoids problems caused by longer
pathnames, or a combination of both.


Regards,

Peter
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Fred Wersan  wrote:

> Last week I asked about a crash when I try to save to XML (Frame 2015,
> structured). After trying everything I could think of, I called Adobe
> support. After about an hour or so, the resolution was that if I copied the
> problem files to my desktop, I could save them to XML without crashing.
>
> This was kind of weird. They had to actually be on the desktop, not even a
> subdirectory under it. It was tedious and annoying to work with the files,
> but I was able to save to XML and get on with the rest of my work.
>
> So, I am passing this along as another strategy for dealing with crashes
> and corrupted files.
>
> I am still suspicious that some of the recent patches caused the problem,
> since I installed them since my last successful save events. I tried to
> install Frame on a different computer so I could try it out without these
> patches, but naturally, it wouldn't install.
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Re: [Framers] table footing - possible only on last page ?

[Fred Ridder]

Hunnhhh???



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Robert Lauriston 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:51 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] table footing - possible only on last page ?

Did you explain to the reviewer that the purpose of a footing row is
to let the reader see the column labels when they're viewing the
bottom half of the page?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Monique Semp
 wrote:
>> Are you talking about a footer row, or a table footnote? Footer rows appear 
>> on every page the table is on, footnotes appear after the entire table (and 
>> I wish that were something you could toggle between). If the row doesn't 
>> appear on every page, then it's not really a footer, is it?
>
>> If you want something that looks like a footer row but only appears at the 
>> end of the table, I'd create it as a regular row and apply custom ruling and 
>> shading to make it look like other footers.
>
> I meant a "footing row", in the terminology of the Add Rows or Columns dialog 
> box where you can add row(s) "To Footing". Good to know that there's an 
> official Table Footnote thing-I didn't realize that. And yes, I agree: if a 
> row isn't on every page, it's not really a footer.
> So I'm going with your suggestion: just put the footing info as the last 
> (regular) row and apply the appropriate ruling/shading for the appearance 
> that I want.
> Thanks,
> -Monique
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Re: [Framers] Longtime Frame File suddenly cannot be printed to postscript for PDF production

[Fred Ridder]

Back when Dov Isaacs was still active on the list, he used to call it 
Reinstallsheimer's Disease. He was never convinced that it did anything useful 
in at least 90% of the cases reported. But I suppose if you're in the right zen 
frame of mind it gives you some time to calm down while you watch the progress 
indicator move ever so slowly...

-FR


From: Framers  on 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:31 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Longtime Frame File suddenly cannot be printed to 
postscript for PDF production



On 1/09/16 8:19 am, loui...@mchsi.com wrote:

> Can I tack on a related question? Am I right in not fully trusting a PDF made 
> by "Save As"? Or do I just have deep-seated psychological issues? ;-)
>

More the latter, if you are referring to anything newer than version 9.
There was much discussion on the list some time ago about the relative
merits of either approach. I have been strong advocate of the ps->pdf
workflow but nowadays, I would promote the Save As... as providing a as
good a quality output.

Working on 2015 this week, I observed that Save As uses Distiller in any
case, so by doing it manually only takes time and adds no other value.
That was because the Adobe Acrobat license decided to screw itself up
and I needed to reinstall Acrobat and all the other CC apps I use.

huh, why do we need to reinstall this stuff all the time?

Cheers
Alan

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Re: [Framers] Longtime Frame File suddenly cannot be printed to postscript for PDF production

[Fred Ridder]

Or printing directly to PDF using the Adobe PDF virtual printer, which is the 
method I've used for more than a decade.


-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Alan Litchfield 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:09 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Longtime Frame File suddenly cannot be printed to 
postscript for PDF production

I think I would try redistilling the pdf using your current diver. So,
printing it to ps -> pdf or directly to pdf. Then reimport it and try again.

I can't remember what version of FM you are running, but the newer
versions have pretty good save to pdf functions now. What happens if you
save directly to pdf?

Good luck
Alan

On 1/09/16 7:07 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> HI All,
>
> I have a series of 4 manuals for a longtime client, with each series having
> a unique graphic for the FrontCover.fm file. The graphic is a PDF with
> bleeding edges that is imported into an anchored frame on the first page of
> the two page file. For like a gazillion years, I have been able to print the
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> then distill this file to produce a PDF using just the Standard print job
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> stuck on the FrontCover.fm file and goes nowhere. It just spins and spins
> and I eventually have to kill the process. As I am using the Standard print
> job, I haven't changed a single setting and I am at a loss to understand why
> this has happened/what has happened. Of course, removing the Front cover
> file resolves the issue, but that isn't an option . .. this has to be part
> of the final  PDF production.
>
> Any and all thoughts are appreciated, including any settings that you could
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Re: [Framers] Can't remove lines apparently covered by table

[Fred Ridder]

First of all, you have to be using the right selection tool (the 
graphic/multipurpose selection arrow on the graphics tool palette) to be able 
to select them. And if the lines have been sent to the back of the object 
stack, your attempts to select them will be interpreted as applying to whatever 
is farther forward (e.g. the table) rather than the lines, making selection.


There are a couple of approaches that could work to allow you to manipulate 
(i.e. delete) the lines themselves:


1) Move the table downward in the flow so that the lines are uncovered. One way 
to do this would be to temporarily insert a bunch of returns in front of the 
table anchor symbol to push the table down. Another approach might be to 
temporarily change the position property of the table to top of next page.


2) Click and drag to draw a selection box large enough to enclose the whole 
table and whatever lies underneath it. Then de-select the entire table via its 
anchor to leave only the lines (and any other garbage) selected. At that point 
you should be able to simply delete them. Or you can bring the garbage objects 
to the front where they can be seen and selected and deleted.

-FR


From: Karen Robbins <karendes...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:08 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Can't remove lines apparently covered by table

Framers are the best! Yes, they probably were graphic lines drawn at one time 
or another. Yes, setting cell fill to 100% white hides them. Thanks!

Is that normal? Why can't  the lines themselves be selected (to delete or even 
change their color to white)?

--Karen

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Fred Ridder 
<docu...@hotmail.com<mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Is it possible that you're seeing some lines that were drawn as graphics 
(intentionally or unintentionally)? Try setting a 100% white fill for the table 
rows in question and see if that make the lines disappear.


-FR



From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:hotmail@lists.frameusers.com>>
 on behalf of Karen Robbins 
<karendes...@gmail.com<mailto:karendes...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: [Framers] Can't remove lines apparently covered by table

Hi framers,

In a detailed table some lines are visible in two rows (of 20+) that don't
seem to be column, row, or cell border lines. No rule above or below is set
for the nearest text. The lines do not align with the cells themselves, and
they are about the same weight as the cell borders. I can't get rid of the
lines--I can't even click them, even if I delete all the text in the cells
where they appear to be. If I "select all" on the table, these lines
disappear with the rest of the table. I've tried a handful of key
combinations to try to release the lines--group and ungroup commands are
grayed out--to no avail. How are these lines connected to the table? How
can I disconnect and get rid of them? Obviously I do not want to rebuild
and re-key the table.

Thanks so much,
Karen


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Re: [Framers] Can't remove lines apparently covered by table

[Fred Ridder]

Is it possible that you're seeing some lines that were drawn as graphics 
(intentionally or unintentionally)? Try setting a 100% white fill for the table 
rows in question and see if that make the lines disappear.


-FR



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Karen Robbins 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Can't remove lines apparently covered by table

Hi framers,

In a detailed table some lines are visible in two rows (of 20+) that don't
seem to be column, row, or cell border lines. No rule above or below is set
for the nearest text. The lines do not align with the cells themselves, and
they are about the same weight as the cell borders. I can't get rid of the
lines--I can't even click them, even if I delete all the text in the cells
where they appear to be. If I "select all" on the table, these lines
disappear with the rest of the table. I've tried a handful of key
combinations to try to release the lines--group and ungroup commands are
grayed out--to no avail. How are these lines connected to the table? How
can I disconnect and get rid of them? Obviously I do not want to rebuild
and re-key the table.

Thanks so much,
Karen

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Re: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

[Fred Ridder]

Without addressing the specific questions you have asked, I'd like to suggest 
that you document any out-of-the-ordinary setups or practices in the master 
pages. It's a little-known fact that you can put text into the dummy body frame 
on a master page, and that this text will be saved there but will never appear 
in your deliverable documents. If you store text this way on custom master 
pages, it *will* be subject to deletion if you delete the entire master page, 
but using the default left and right master pages makes the notes relatively 
immune to accidental deletion. The only downside is that everyone using the 
template will need to know to look on the master pages to find this kind of 
helpful information.


-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Monique Semp 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 12:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

Hello, Framers,

For an FAQ doc, I've broken the usual "rule" of sensible-length headings 
because I'm making them be the full text of a question. So with the font size, 
the headings are often 3- or 4-lines.

The problem is that I have my master pages configured to include the heading 
text in the recto footers, via the "Running H/F #" variable. And with these 
very long headings, the text overruns the available space in the footer, pushes 
the footer "artwork" (just a nice pipe line between the heading text and the 
page number) to the wrong spot, and completely obliterates the page number.

So, what sorts of schemes/work-arounds have people created to deal with this 
sort of issue?

(I can imagine creating a new heading style for the long-winded headings, 
creating a new hidden-text heading style for the truncated text that I'd wish 
in the footer, and then adding the style for the truncated heading to the 
"Running H/F #" definition, which already has multiple styles to account for, 
for example, "heading 1" and "heading 1 page". But this is certainly a hassle, 
and won't be at all obvious to some other writer, or my future self.)

Thanks for suggestions,
-Monique

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Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

[Fred Ridder]

Right. I believe that the Character Designer is designed to list fonts that are 
specified in your document even if they are not installed on your system. There 
used to be (and may still be--I haven't looked lately) a couple of options for 
whether Frame remembers the names of missing fonts, and it's possible those 
options (if they still exist) interact with what is shown in the Character 
Designer's list of fonts.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Theresa de Valence 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:32 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

On 6/30/2016 1:52 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> Are FM8 and FM12 on the same system?

Yes, but I was looking at the Character Designer and it "says" the font
is Dingbats. I realize now that it doesn't mean Dingbats is installed.

But I've moved since I got that CD!

Thanks.

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Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

[Fred Ridder]

But it says here that if you *know* a given font is going to be resident in the 
printer you print the PDF from, you don't need to embed it in the PDF and 
download it to the printer as part of the print job. Of course, what that means 
for reading the PDF on-screen on a system that doesn't have the font at all is 
anybody's guess...


-FR



From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Craig Ede <craig...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:58 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

Since it is not built into the Adobe PDF printer, I'd say the reason for THAT 
was licensing fees.


Craig


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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:45 AM
To: Craig Ede; framers
Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats


Many people would argue with the reason you give for the "Base 14" PostScript 
fonts not being bundled with applications after a certain time. The official 
reason given by most software publishers was that the PostScript outline and 
metrics files were required to be built into all PostScript compatible printers 
as printer-resident fonts. This was not done in the early days of PostScript 
printers because the cost of non-volatile storage (e.g., EPROM) was not 
trivial. Once the "real" font files were ubiquitously printer resident, there 
was no need to distribute them in "soft" form with applications since there was 
no need to download them to the printer with each print job. Instead, it was 
only necessary to distribute simplified versions of the fonts to provide 
on-screen display and the font metric information needed on Windows systems for 
the printer driver to calculate line lengths for text wrapping. Of course, the 
whole landscape changed with the adoption of Unicode, but that
 's another story.


BTW, the "14" in "Base 14" refers to four variants (normal, bold, italic, and 
bold italic) of Times, Helvetica, and Courier plus the Symbol and Zapf Dingbats 
fonts.


-FR



From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Craig Ede <craig...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:25 AM
To: framers
Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

Use unicode fonts; most modern fonts are unicode. A lot of glyphs are now 
available in standard fonts that weren't in thefonts before.


Also, purchasing Zapf Dingbats can't be that expensive. I found a copy of the 
Helvetica, Times and Zapf Dingbat fonts that Adobe no longer includes with 
FrameMaker in an old copy of Illustrator or Pagemaker that I had.  I ran the 
installer and just chose to use those fonts. These fonts are likely to not 
include glyphs in the more modern versions of the same fonts.


The reason those fonts are no longer included is that they are not Adobe fonts 
and had to be licensed from somebody else.


Craig



From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Theresa de Valence <t...@bstw.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:16 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

I've opened a (very) old document which uses Zapf Dingbats which are not
on my current system. The document prints correctly from Frame 12, but
the screen display is gobbledygook.

What do people use for these fonts nowadays?

Thanks,
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Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

[Fred Ridder]

Many people would argue with the reason you give for the "Base 14" PostScript 
fonts not being bundled with applications after a certain time. The official 
reason given by most software publishers was that the PostScript outline and 
metrics files were required to be built into all PostScript compatible printers 
as printer-resident fonts. This was not done in the early days of PostScript 
printers because the cost of non-volatile storage (e.g., EPROM) was not 
trivial. Once the "real" font files were ubiquitously printer resident, there 
was no need to distribute them in "soft" form with applications since there was 
no need to download them to the printer with each print job. Instead, it was 
only necessary to distribute simplified versions of the fonts to provide 
on-screen display and the font metric information needed on Windows systems for 
the printer driver to calculate line lengths for text wrapping. Of course, the 
whole landscape changed with the adoption of Unicode, but that
 's another story.


BTW, the "14" in "Base 14" refers to four variants (normal, bold, italic, and 
bold italic) of Times, Helvetica, and Courier plus the Symbol and Zapf Dingbats 
fonts.


-FR



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Craig Ede 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:25 AM
To: framers
Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

Use unicode fonts; most modern fonts are unicode. A lot of glyphs are now 
available in standard fonts that weren't in thefonts before.


Also, purchasing Zapf Dingbats can't be that expensive. I found a copy of the 
Helvetica, Times and Zapf Dingbat fonts that Adobe no longer includes with 
FrameMaker in an old copy of Illustrator or Pagemaker that I had.  I ran the 
installer and just chose to use those fonts. These fonts are likely to not 
include glyphs in the more modern versions of the same fonts.


The reason those fonts are no longer included is that they are not Adobe fonts 
and had to be licensed from somebody else.


Craig



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Subject: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

I've opened a (very) old document which uses Zapf Dingbats which are not
on my current system. The document prints correctly from Frame 12, but
the screen display is gobbledygook.

What do people use for these fonts nowadays?

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Re: [Framers] conditions - in templates vs. applicable docs ?

[Fred Ridder]

And since each of these format/variable/condition templates is only used to 
overlay FrameMaker layers that don't contain document content, you can use the 
content layer to contain detailed descriptions of everything that is defined in 
the template, and even a change history as the template evolves. 
Self-documentation is a really powerful tool for templates and stylesheets 
because I've never met anyone who can remember all the details for more than a 
day or so.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Monique Semp 
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:02 AM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] conditions - in templates vs. applicable docs ?

> You could keep the conditions in a separate file.

Ah, and just treat that file as a "template", and use it to import the
relevant conditions into the applicable docs' .fm files? I like that idea.
It would be easy to create a template_conditions_prod1.fm file, a
template_conditions_prod2.fm file, and so on, and then just use those to
make sure that every .fm file in a given book gets the same conditions.

And by extension, I could mimic this for other template elements, such as
variables.

Thanks for the idea!
-Monique

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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[Fred Ridder]

I agree with other responses that a figure is *not* an example, so that 
"exemplifies" is not at all the right word. 

But I also suggest that in many cases it would be better to cast the sentence 
in the active voice ("Figure x.x shows" something) or the imperative mood ("See 
Figure x.x") rather than the passive voice (something is "shown in Figure 
x.x"). If the passive voice is preferred for some reason, I would suggest a 
transitional word ("as shown in Figure x.x") to be more idiomatic than the form 
that leads with the passive verb.

-FR 


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Stephen O'Brien 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 12:50 PM
To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

Hi,

A new technical writer uses « exemplified in Fig. X.X» in captions to describe 
images in our technical reference documentation for a quality control software.

I have asked that a simpler synonym be used (shown in Figure X.X).

I consider that "exemplified" is not a commonly used term (I haven't heard or 
read the term in years) and is not easily read. The writer does not want to 
give the term up, considering it equal to "illustrated in".

What do you think?

Stephen O'BRIEN
Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | 
Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

[Fred Ridder]

Aren't bullet points subject to the "universal" 7 +/-2 rule? If so, 10 bullets 
would be doomed to failure. But John's original list would be OK at 8 bullets.

;^)
-FR


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Subject: Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

Thanks, Peter...but between you and me, I've never experienced a failed
documentation project because 10 bullets was used. :-).

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From:   "Peter Gold" 
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Date:   05/20/2016 01:10 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



* Too many bullet points?


* Or too few?



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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

[Fred Ridder]

Umm, what you say about Word's equation editor is not entirely accurate. 
Microsoft used to use a reduced version of MathType as Word's built in equation 
editor; but as of Word 2007, the default equation editor is a brand-new tool, 
developed in-house by Microsoft. The old MathType-based editor is supported 
primarily to render legacy equations.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Craig W. Johnson 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

The unicode code for combining (i.e. zero-width) circumflex is hex 0302, and it 
should follow the character it appears above. If you don't have a unicode entry 
method handy, using Frame's replace function - "W" with "W\u0302" - will get 
you the code, BUT, you need the circumflex to be declared in a font that will 
show the code (Times New Roman or Arial both work). You'll still need to do 
some fussing with changing the spread of the W, and moving the mark vertically.

I set a lot of books with a lot of math, and rather than mess with FrameMaker's 
editor, or continually potschke things together by hand, I rely on MathType, 
which will produce any number of outputs, including EPS and bitmap formats. It 
saves a lot of time because it's a superset of Word's equation editor, and 
usually Word equations import seamlessly (or at least more reliably than much 
else imports from Word). You can also specify something akin to named 
stylesheets for font and positioning in equations (so you can have, say, 
separate styles for text equations and table equations), and support for 
micro-positioning is good. It also has support for TeX, which is another option 
here, but setting that up and using it makes Frame's learning curve look like a 
walk in the park.

Of course, using any auxiliary app will also gives you a bunch of graphics 
files to keep track of, but if your math is at all complicated it's probably 
worthwhile.

MathType for Windows costs around $100 and may be downloaded as a 30-day 
unfettered demo from . 
It's also available in a strong Mac version, for those (like me) who prefer 
running Frame using a VM.

Hope this helps.

Craig Johnson
Remex Publishing


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Re: [Framers] Conditional Expression build crashing FrameMaker with Internal Errors

[Fred Ridder]

Assuming that there is a legitimate use case for having content that is tagged 
as both IP A and Internal, the most foolproof way of doing this is to define an 
"IP A + Internal" tag so that the content has only a single condition tag 
applied to it. You would probably also define an "IP B + Internal" tag and a 
"Common Internal" tag. 

Then at build/publish time for the IP A and Cust01 case you use in your 
example, it's a simple matter of including content tagged with either the IP A 
or Cust01 conditions and excluding all other conditions including the "IP A + 
Internal" condition.  

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Robert Lauriston 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:02 PM
To: Lin Sims; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Conditional Expression build crashing FrameMaker with 
Internal Errors

Generally speaking, when defining a set of conditions, you want to (1)
minimize the amount of text that has to be tagged, (2) minimize
multiple tagging, (3) maximize unconditional text, and (4) define the
minimum number of conditions to achieve that.

Sometimes that means defining conditions for text to be included,
other times it means defining conditions for text to be excluded. Best
practice, those should be named so as to indicate their function, for
example IncludeInFoo, OnlyInFoo, and ExcludeFromFoo.

I'm not sure why an Internal tag would ever be combined with any other
tag. External should be unnecessary since it means the same thing as
the absence of the Internal tag.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> Yours is a more elegant solution. As I said before, this is my first
> go-around with Conditional expressions. It didn't help at all that the
> standard I was told to apply here was to tag text with the condition for the
> book I want to produce. That produced some odd results I can no longer
> recall (mostly because I had text tagged for both Internal and Cust01).
>
> What I wound up with, in variations, is as follows:
>
> For a book where I want IP A and Cust01, but not IP B or Internal, I used:
>
> "IP A" or "Cust01" and not ("IP B" or ("IP A" and "Internal"))
>
> It works.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>>
>> ("A" or "External" or ("A" and "External")) could be simplified to
>>
>> ("A" or "External")
>>
>> not (("A" and "Internal") or "B" or ("B" and "External") or "TBP or
>> "WriterNote")
>>
>> could be simplified to
>>
>> not ("A" and "Internal") or "B"  or "TBP or "WriterNote")
>>
>> But it's not clear why you can't just use
>>
>> not ("Internal" or "B"  or "TBP or "WriterNote")
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Re: [Framers] Searching for content in FrameMaker files

[Fred Ridder]

You're not doing anything wrong. It's just the way Windows works.

The ability to find text strings in the content of a file depends on Windows 
knowing how to decode the file (if it's a binary type) and parse the contents. 
Windows knows how to parse most common non-proprietary file formats, like TXT, 
RTF, HTML, PDF, and so on. And it knows how to parse the file formats used by 
Microsoft applications, like DOC, DOCX, XLS, VSD, PST. But there's no return on 
investment for Microsoft spending the effort to program Windows to parse 
non-Microsoft application file formats like those used by FrameMaker. Simply 
adding the filename extensions to the list of file types to be indexed does not 
teach Windows how to decode and parse the files. It's possible that Windows 
would figure out how to parse a MIF file, since it is text based rather than 
binary, but I would never expect Windows to be able to do full-text indexing on 
a .fm binary file. 

-Fred Ridder


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Austin Meredith <kou...@kouroo.info>
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 9:28 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Searching for content in FrameMaker files

   I don't seem to be able to persuade the File Explorer of Windows 10 to
   find Boolean content inside FrameMaker2015 files. I've tried all the
   obvious tricks such as making certain that the file suffixes ".fm" and
   ".frame" are included in the indexing list, and deleting and rebuilding
   that indexing list. File Explorer will find the name "Thoreau" if it is
   part of the FrameMaker file's filename such as "ThoreauINDEX.fm" and
   will indeed find the name "Thoreau" when it is *inside* a '.txt" or
   other file, but refuses to find the name "Thoreau" for me when it is
   inside a ".fm" or ".frame" file. What am I doing wrong? -Austin
   Meredith
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Re: [Framers] Cannot get FM to drop the even-numbered blank page

[Fred Ridder]

The important thing to note is that the "Next Available" option for the 
starting page is only available when setting pagination from the book file. If 
you choose Pagination when a content file has focus, "Next Available" is not 
presented as a choice because that option makes no sense in the single file 
context (since there is no preceding chapter).

It's also important to note that misbehavior in any given chapter file can be 
caused by something other than "Next Available" being set for the *following* 
chapter, rather than any setting in the chapter that is misbehaving.

Of course, this all assumes that the objective is to have content on every page 
and for chapters not to care whether they start on a  recto (odd numbered) or 
verso (even numbered) page.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Robert Lauriston 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:02 PM
To: Nancy Allison
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Cannot get FM to drop the even-numbered blank page

Comprehensive list from Harro de Jong (thanks again) in 2013:

Blank pages at any position:
- Manual page break
- Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start:
top of page setting
- Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the
table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any
paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit
on the page)
- tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page
- Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings
- Tables with straddled columns
- Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all)

Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter:
- rightclick chapter in book->Pagination->Make page count odd/even
(can add an empty page at end of chapter)
- rightclick chapter in book->Pagination-> 1st page side (can add an
empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to anything other
than Next Available.)
- Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start:
top of page setting
- Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right
- Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind) the
body text frame
- Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
> Hi, all.
>There are two clear, concise explanations about how to start each
>chapter in your FM book on the next available blank page, whether left
>or right. The two descriptions are here:
>[1]https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-start-chapter
>s-on-the-next-available-page/
>[2]https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-automatically
>-assigning-custom-master-pages/
>I have done what they recommend, checked, and rechecked, and still FM
>inserts a blank even-numbered page at the end of chapters that would
>otherwise end on a left-handed page.
>What am I missing?
>Thank you, one and all.
>
> References
>
>1. 
> https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-start-chapters-on-the-next-available-page/
>2. 
> https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-automatically-assigning-custom-master-pages/
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Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

[Fred Ridder]

The SetPrint plug-in was only necessary with older versions of FrameMaker -- 
6.x and earlier, if I recall correctly -- which used whatever was the current 
Windows printer as its default printer. The problem with that approach was that 
even if you set the FrameMaker printer to "Adobe PDF" (or whatever name Adobe 
was using at the moment, because they changed the designation a few times in 
that era), the next time you launched Frame the printer would be set back to 
your current Windows selection (usually a physical printer). 

The FrameMaker team eventually got it right and gave FrameMaker its own default 
printer selection that was "sticky" and completely independent of the Windows 
printer selection, thus eliminating the need for the Sundorne plug-in. 

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Syed Zaeem Hosain 
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

Robert Lauriston said:
> FrameMaker's default printer should always be set to Adobe PDF.

Yes!

And, there is a FrameMaker plug-in that can automate this while using 
FrameMaker - very easy to install and not worry about this specific issue.

Free from Sundorne: http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

Callable from FrameScript too.

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Re: [Framers] Shrinkwrapping

[Fred Ridder]

The only related thing that I remember was a plug-in called ShrinkWrapAsIs, 
which retained the position property while performing the shrink-wrap 
operation. The "stock" shrink-wrap command was designed to package mathematical 
equations as in-line graphics, so it automatically sets the position property 
to in-line; that's fine for equations, but is often not what you want when 
handling graphic objects as anchored figures. 

-Fred Ridder

From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Peter Gold <peter@petergold.photography>
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 2:49 PM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: Framers (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Framers] Shrinkwrapping

IIRC, there was a script in the long-ago days that would trim the excess.
Maybe someone remembers it and can point to it.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Mike Wickham <mewick...@cox.net> wrote:

> I'm not aware of any way to change it, except to manually drag the handles
> of the anchored frame. You can change the offset of the image from the top
> left corner of the anchored frame to zero (in object properties), so that
> it butts against that corner, but you have to manually drag the diagonal
> corner to remove the other extra space.
>
> 0.353mm is equivalent to one typographic point. Presumably, FrameMaker
> leaves a 1 pt border around the image so that we can see the anchored frame
> that holds it.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
> On 4/1/2016 5:52 PM, Craig, Alison wrote:
>
>> I've never used the graphics shrinkwrap option so when I tried it out
>> yesterday I was surprised to find that it left a margin of 0.353mm around
>> the edges.
>>
>> Is there a way to set this margin to zero? I couldn't find anything in
>> the Frame 12 user documentation.
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Re: [Framers] PDF creation with Acrobat Standard Dc installed

[Fred Ridder]

Oh, yeah, "Acrobat Data" also includes compiled bookmarks for the headings, 
figure captions, table titles and other any paragraph styles that you select as 
bookmarks in the PDF Setup dialog.

-FR

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From: Fred Ridder
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:50 AM
To: Denis Daly; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF creation with Acrobat Standard Dc installed

Those are not new options. They have been part of the Print dialog 
approximately forever.

Print to File means that Frame will pipe the printer output data stream to a 
file rather than the printer port. If you have selected a PostScript printer 
(including the Adobe PDF virtual printer as well as a physical printer model), 
the output will be a PostScript file, which you would presumably then 
explicitly distill to PDF if you have Adobe Acrobat Distiller. If you have 
selected a non-PostScript printer, the file will be the correct language for 
the selected printer (e.g., PCL for an HP printer), which will not be useful 
for producing a PDF.

Generate Acrobat Data does exactly that -- it generates (and includes in the 
PostScript printer stream) all the code necessary to make a PDF interactive 
(e.g., ID tags for the paragraph that are targets of hyperlinks, hyperlinks to 
those IDs and external URLs). When printing to a physical printer, all that 
kind of information is extraneous, so Frame doesn't generate it. If your final 
deliverable is PDF (either directly or produced by Distiller from a PostScript 
file), you want to tell Frame to include all this data that Acrobat knows how 
to handle.

-FR


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Denis Daly <d.d...@icpnewtech.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] PDF creation with Acrobat Standard Dc installed

HI,

Windows 10
FM 12 ver 12.0.4.445
Acrobat Standard DC

I have just recently received a new PC and Acrobat Standard DC, at the same 
time. Lots of changes at once.

I have am using File -> Print Book with the settings as in attached file.

I have managed to generate a valid PDF, but I was wondering if someone could 
please explain the two check box settings on the left most Dialog Box (Print 
Book)?:


1.   Print to File


2.   Generate Acrobat Data



I did have to uncheck the checkbox 'Rely on system fonts; do not use document 
fonts' on the Adobe PDF Document Properties Dialog Box, though.



Thanks.


Denis Daly
Technical Writer

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Re: [Framers] PDF creation with Acrobat Standard Dc installed

[Fred Ridder]

Those are not new options. They have been part of the Print dialog 
approximately forever.

Print to File means that Frame will pipe the printer output data stream to a 
file rather than the printer port. If you have selected a PostScript printer 
(including the Adobe PDF virtual printer as well as a physical printer model), 
the output will be a PostScript file, which you would presumably then 
explicitly distill to PDF if you have Adobe Acrobat Distiller. If you have 
selected a non-PostScript printer, the file will be the correct language for 
the selected printer (e.g., PCL for an HP printer), which will not be useful 
for producing a PDF.

Generate Acrobat Data does exactly that -- it generates (and includes in the 
PostScript printer stream) all the code necessary to make a PDF interactive 
(e.g., ID tags for the paragraph that are targets of hyperlinks, hyperlinks to 
those IDs and external URLs). When printing to a physical printer, all that 
kind of information is extraneous, so Frame doesn't generate it. If your final 
deliverable is PDF (either directly or produced by Distiller from a PostScript 
file), you want to tell Frame to include all this data that Acrobat knows how 
to handle.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Denis Daly 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] PDF creation with Acrobat Standard Dc installed

HI,

Windows 10
FM 12 ver 12.0.4.445
Acrobat Standard DC

I have just recently received a new PC and Acrobat Standard DC, at the same 
time. Lots of changes at once.

I have am using File -> Print Book with the settings as in attached file.

I have managed to generate a valid PDF, but I was wondering if someone could 
please explain the two check box settings on the left most Dialog Box (Print 
Book)?:


1.   Print to File


2.   Generate Acrobat Data



I did have to uncheck the checkbox 'Rely on system fonts; do not use document 
fonts' on the Adobe PDF Document Properties Dialog Box, though.



Thanks.


Denis Daly
Technical Writer

[cid:image001.png@01CEBECA.0440CD30]
Kilbrittain, Co. Cork, 
IRELAND
Postcode: P72 FR82


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RE: Inconsistent Numbering Properties

[Fred Ridder]

The inconsistent numbering properties message is only a warning. If you 
ignore it, FrameMaker will do exactly what you want it to do: it will use the 
numbering properties as set in the book file. FrameMaker warns you so that you 
can make sure that nothing has inadvertently been changed in the book file's 
setup. Once you are certain the book's properties are set properly, you can 
ignore all  further inconsistency messages.

The properties that exist in the individual content files are there so that the 
file will display the correct numbering if you open and/or print it 
individually rather than as part of the book. (That is why some numbering 
options such as continue from previous file in book are not available when 
you set the properties for an individual file. 

But when you do an Update Book or Print Book operation, FrameMaker always uses 
the properties that are set in the book file, since that is required to allow 
the use of common content files (e.g. a shared acronym list or glossary) in 
multiple books. 

-Fred Ridder

From: sobr...@innovmetric.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Inconsistent Numbering Properties
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:34:48 +









Hi,
 
This subject must come up regularly. I use the certain documents in several 
books. When I update those books I have Inconsistent Numbering Properties.
 
I open the documents that are named. I set their numbering properties as in the 
book. But the problem is then put to another document, or same one.
 
I only use documents within books. Is there some way to tell FrameMaker or a 
book to ignore the document numbering – use only the numbering done in the book.
 
It would be great to understand/solve this once and for all.
 
Thank you for any advice and have a good weekend,
 
Stephen O'BRIEN

Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | 
Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer

InnovMetric Logiciels | Software

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Fred Ridder]

To quote the classic TV commercial: Stop! You're both right!

When speaking of raster images, the resolution is the *number* of pixels. It is 
*not* the pixel pitch, whihc ius what we're used to thinking of as resolution 
when we talk about monitors or printers. 

What Richard is saying is precisely the advice you've always heard. The 
resolution--the number of pixels--should always remain the same for the best 
results. Changing the reproduced size changes the pixel *pitch* but does not 
change the *number* of pixels. The thing you do *not* want to do is resample 
the image to change the number of pixels (the resolution); this *always* 
degrades the quality of the image, anthough the degree of degradation can vary 
widely depending on the ratio of the two resolutions and the algorithm being 
used for the resampling or downsampling.

And getting the size correct is actually very simple as long as you know how to 
use a calculator. If you have an image that is 1328 pixels wide, and you need 
it to fit in a frame that is 3.25 inches wide, you need to set the dpi (the 
pixel pitch) to 1328/3.25 ≈ 409. In this case you can actually set the size 
with 0.25% (one part in 400) accuracy.

-Fred Ridder

From: tp...@telecomsys.com
To: richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:04 +







OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep 
the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import 
it in also at that resolution.
 I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable.



Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right 
resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you 
have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time?



Tim



From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM

To: Tim Pann; framers

Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images







Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size
 you want on the page. 
 


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On Behalf Of Tim Pann

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM

To: framers

Subject: Importing clear, sharp images


 






I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.


 


Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working
 on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen 
captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking 
pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help.


 


I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about
 resolution, resizing once imported, etc.


 


I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.


 


Thank you,


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RE: PDF problems

[Fred Ridder]

Actually, in most cases the place to start looking for the problem is about 2 
pages *before* the page that is indicated when the error occurs. Much of the 
processing of a PDF file is pipelined, so that at least one or two pages (N-2 
and N-1) are still being worked on when the application reports that page N is 
the page being processed now. 

-Fred Ridder

Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:46:04 -0400
From: a...@groupwellesley.com
To: as...@ariens.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF problems


  

  
  
This is a vexing type of problem. It may be a non-obvious corrupt
graphic or other object. I recommend divide and conquer, either in
FrameMaker 12 or in Acrobat.



- Split the file in half.

- Identify the half-file that produces the error.

- Split the error-prone half-file again.

- Repeat until you've identified the page/object that is causing the
error.



As David Spreadbury suggests, if the printer can tell you the page
that invokes the failure, start looking there.



-Alan



Alan Houser
Group Wellesley, Inc.
Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
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On 5/21/15 9:21 AM, Alan Salo (Ariens
  Plant 1) wrote:



  
  
  
  
Hello all,
 
I have a
problem that is perplexing me.  There are two PDF files that
our printer cannot compose to get them on the press. They
say that the files are unsupported file type or damaged.
 
As background
we send numerous files to them weekly, all using the same
process with no issues. It’s just these two. I get no error
messages or anything unusual when I update the books.
 
They are
English/French and Spanish versions of the same manual, so
share the same graphics. One is 58 pages and the other 32;
not huge files. There are five conditions in the books. All
but two are turned off.
 
All graphics
are referenced; tif and eps. I’ve gone through the manuals
and opened and resaved every graphic but that did not help.
 
We create in
FM12, generate a postscript file and then distill that to a
pdf using Acrobat distiller.
 
Any
troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated!
 
Alan

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RE: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

[Fred Ridder]

That's not entirely correct.

When Frame regenerates a TOC, the first thing it does is delete all existing 
paragraphs that have paragraph tags that end with TOC, such as Head1TOC and 
Head2TOC. But any paragraphs that have paragraph tags that do *not* have that 
ending will not be affected. This allows you to set up a TOC title/heading and 
potentially a prefatory paragraph or two that will remain in the TOC when you 
update it. 

But yes, any manual changes in paragraphs with ...TOC tags will absolutely be 
lost when the TOC is updated.

One approach to what Linda is trying to accomplish is to rename the TOC 
paragraph styles in an *empty* TOC file from the old heading style names (plus 
the ...TOC suffix, of course) to correspond to the heading style names in the 
current book, and then regenerating the TOC. Doing the style name changes on an 
empty file should make the changes simple and quick. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:08:27 -0700
 Subject: Re: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC
 From: rob...@lauriston.com
 To: linda.garn...@crossmatch.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Create a new TOC from scratch. That will use the tags from the new
 template (assuming it's designed correctly).
 
 You should never edit generated entries in a TOC, any changes will be
 lost the next time you update.
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Linda Garneau
 linda.garn...@crossmatch.com wrote:
 
  I just successfully imported formatting from our new template TOC to the 
  current document TOC (shown below). In this particular file, the paragraph 
  tags for content headings (HeadVC1, HeadVC2, etc.) are labeled differently 
  from the tags for content headings in the template TOC (HeadTOC1, HeadTOC2, 
  etc). It will let me select one heading or a group of headings to update, 
  but it won’t let me do an Update All. It takes FOREVER to update every 
  heading, one by one, to the correct tag in the template. Is there a way I 
  can apply the tags from the new template to all the tags in the current doc 
  at once?

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RE: Limit Find/Change

[Fred Ridder]

Or an oblique variant on #2:
Rename Body Text as FlubberRename, replace, or delete Body (as appropriate)
Rename Flubber back to Body Text-FR


 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:32:51 +1200
 From: a...@alphabyte.co.nz
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Limit Find/Change
 
 That won't do it?
 
 Body is a whole word that also appears in Body Text.
 
 1. Use a regular expression but I am not sure how extensive are the 
 Find/Replace regex rules in FM.
 
 (?!Text)(?Body)
 
 2. Are your styles the same and just different names? If so, then can 
 you find all instances of Body Text and change to Body, then repeat by 
 changing all instances of Body to Body Text.
 
 YMMV
 Alan
 
 On 23/04/15 9:19 am, Christenson, Pat wrote:
  Turn on Whole Word in Find/Change.
 
  Pat Christenson
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 3:46 PM
  To: framers
  Subject: Limit Find/Change
 
  Hi, guys...I'm putting in a couple of days to clean up some inconsistencies 
  in my documentation template and styles.
 
  I currently use the P style  Body Text (no quotes)  for normal body text.
 
  However, in the past, I'd used the P Style Body (no quotes) and I want to 
  do a Paragraph tag search on Body to clean it out.  However, it also 
  finds Body Text which I don't want.
 
  How do I limit the search to just Body?
 
  Thanks
 
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  | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
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RE: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

[Fred Ridder]

If I recall correctly (and it has been quite a few years since I last 
used FM7), I believe that FM7 was the last version that did not support 
Unicode and therefore required you to use decimal character numbers 
rather than the hex codes that Unicode uses. But either way, it is 100% 
correct that you cannot just paste special characters into the Autonumber dialog
 because most FrameMaker dialogs only accept characters that can be 
typed directly on a standard keyboard. Anything else requires the use of a 
multi-key sequence that is escaped with an initial backslash.

-Fred Ridder 

 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:24:53 -0700
 Subject: Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats
 From: rob...@lauriston.com
 To: davide.p...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 You can't just paste the character in that field. You need to look up
 the hex code or key sequence in the FrameMaker 7 FrameMaker Character
 Sets (Windows) PDF. Be sure to use the FM7 version of that doc and not
 a later version.
 
 There may be other issues with the font installation. The last time I
 had trouble with Zapf Dingbats, the problem was that only one of the
 two files required for a PostScript Type 1 font was installed. I'm not
 sure that the OpenType version will work with FM7.
 
 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Davide Piva davide.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello Framers.
  I'm having problems with FM 7.2 on WXP Pro and Zapf Dingbats font.
  I'm building a serie of bulleted lists and I want to use the arrow and other
  symbols. After I paste the character in the Autonumber format field and
  update the paragraph format, a different Zapf symbol appears in place of the
  one I choosen.
  I tried to paste the same character into a LibreOffice Writer new document
  and the symbol doesn't appear at all (a Ü character appears instead).
  The Zap Dingbats font installed is an OTF and I previously had a PFM version
  of it, experiencing the same issue.
  Does anyone have an idea to solve the problem? W7 Pro is installed over an
  Oracle Virtual Box virtual machine running on W7 Pro; I don't guess this is
  a problem.

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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

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The hyperlinks you are seeing in the PDF may not actually be there, and they 
probably did not come from FrameMaker! For several years, now, Acrobat has had 
the feature of inferring hyperlinks from text strings that look like URLs. But 
the feature is a little dumb in just the ways you describe (being unable to 
properly distinguish surrounding characters from the URL, and not working on 
URLs that are broken across more than one line).

The right way to handle URLs in FrameMaker is to explicitly code them as 
Hypertext markers of the Go To URL type. The marker contains the actual URL, 
which can be different from what appears in the text of the document, and the 
hot-spot area in the text is delimited by some character format that you 
apply to the desired string. (The character format does not need to look 
different than the regular text, but it must be applied or else FrameMaker will 
treat the entire portion of the paragraph that follows the Hypertext marker as 
the active area for the link.)

Then, when you create the PDF from the FrameMaker book, you need to ensure that 
the Include Acrobat Data option is selected so that the real URL from the 
marker will be passed into the PDF.  

It sounds more complicated than it is. The steps I use are:
Select the text that will be the hot-spot. If it's the correct string for the 
URL, copy it to the clipboard.Apply the character format you're using for 
hyperlinks.Go to the Hypertext window and choose Go to URL from the command 
list; message URL will appear in the text box.In the text box, paste (or 
type) the URL after the pre-populated string, then click Create Hypertext 
Marker.

-Fred Ridder


From: dhard...@illinois.edu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 19:37:57 +









Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.
 
When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, 
which is great, but it’s not an exact science, and I’d like to be able to fine
 tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion 
hypertext links:
 
1.  
Frame recognizes
www. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL and converts it to a link. 
Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically recognize non-www domains, e.g. 
bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic conversion controlled?




2.  
Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., [www.fubar.com]. 
Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to the URL when
 creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the opening bracket, 
not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [
www.fubar.com ] does not fix the problem.




3.  
If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the PDF (yet 
maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and
 how would I do this?




Thanks,
 
-Dan




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RE: Table Continuation Variable issue

[Fred Ridder]

The issue is that FrameMaker figures out how to lay out table continuations 
based on the first page of the table. If the table title is only one line 
without the continuation variable, then each continuation page will have only 
one line's worth of table title. If that single line can contain the title plus 
the continuation variable, everything is OK. But if the continuation variable 
needs to wrap to a second line, it will become invisible because Frame knows 
from the first page of the table that the title is only one line. Nothing 
mysterious at work here.

BTW, if you were to use the old-fashioned Sheet x of y indication of table 
continuation, you wouldn't have this problem because the table title on each 
page would be essentially the same length (at least for the first 9 pages while 
x is a single digit) and would wrap (or not) the same way as the first page. 

Just be glad that FrameMaker is able to repeat table tiles on continuation 
pages in the first place. You could be working with Word where the title 
appears once and only once because it's not really part of the table and has no 
way of knowing that the table spans pages. 

-Fred Ridder 

 From: tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
 To: a...@alphabyte.co.nz; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:02:45 -0600
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the
 first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag.
 It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and
 therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an
 extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through
 the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second
 line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last
 word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but
 it's doable.
 
 I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is
 preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway?
 
 Thanks!
 
 TVB
 
 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 www.spectrumwritingllc.com
 TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
 
 Long time since I had that one.
 
 IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the
 title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point.
 
 Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n.
 
 Alan
 
 On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
  FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64.
 
  When I addthe Continued variableto a table title, I expect thatit 
  should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable 
  makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just 
  make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone 
  to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have 
  tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph 
  Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem 
  for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other 
  table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will 
  hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle
 tags look funky.
 
  I am stymied.
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RE: TOC - Receiving a Cannot find the file named error when pressing Ctrl+alt

[Fred Ridder]

Are all of the files involved (the TOC you're generating, the book file, and 
all the chapter files) in some common directory branch off the same root?

-Fred Ridder

From: sabu...@tycoint.com
To: r...@rickquatro.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: TOC - Receiving a Cannot find the file named error when  
pressingCtrl+alt 
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:47:38 +









Yes, I did that but am still receiving the same error message. This has never 
happened to me before so I am quite baffled.

 


From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]


Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:43 AM

To: Abungu, Salome; 'Frame Users'

Subject: RE: TOC - Receiving a Cannot find the file named error when pressing 
Ctrl+alt



 
Did you save the TOC after you generated it?
 


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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On Behalf Of Abungu, Salome

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:14 AM

To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)

Subject: TOC - Receiving a Cannot find the file named error when pressing 
Ctrl+alt



 
When I generate a TOC, it comes out beautifully. However, when I press control 
+ alt to check my links, I receive a cannot find the file named error 
message. This happens for the majority of the links. All of the files
 are present along with the graphics. Everything is in the same folder. They 
are saved on our network. However, I have packaged and copied the files to my 
desktop to see if that makes a difference. I am still receiving the same error 
message.
 
Has anyone seen this before? Any solutions? All help is appreciated.
 
Salome
 
 





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RE: limiting adjectives vs possessive adjectives

[Fred Ridder]

Yes, there are restrictive [and non-restrictive] adjectives, which is what I 
assume you are referring to as limiting adjectives (a term I failed to find 
in any of my handy grammar/linguistics references).

But I don't think that's what we are dealing with here in the non-possessive 
case, because I don't believe we're dealing with adjectives at all. 

Most people remember that adjectives modify nouns, but forget that they are not 
the *only* things that modify nouns. In some cases verbs modify nouns (e.g., 
the sitting president), and in many cases -- particularly in technical writing 
-- nouns modify nouns. Nouns that modify nouns are referred to as attributive 
nouns or noun adjuncts. They almost always appear before the noun they 
modify (an attributive or prepositive position) and they typically identify a 
property or attribute of the noun that follows rather than directly modifying 
the noun itself. 

The classical example of an attributive noun phrase in English is chicken 
soup. Both words are nouns, but it is undeniable that the first noun modifies 
our understanding of what the second noun represents. Exactly what the 
relationship is varies widely; the second noun could be made from the first 
(e.g., chicken soup), intended for the first (e.g., user manual), composed of 
the first (e.g., butterfly migration), dependent on the first (e.g., church 
wedding) -- basically any semantic relationship other than simple possession 
by. And you can string a bunch of them together without any of the usual 
concerns about commas in adjective series. (E.g., The chicken soup tureen ladle 
handle was covered with schmaltz.)

Both user manual and butterfly migration fit this pattern. Both 
user and butterfly are nouns that modify the sense of the nouns that
 follow them. And they are unlike adjectives because they cannot be used
 predicatively. 

-FR

From: craig...@hotmail.com
To: shmue...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: limiting adjectives vs possessive adjectives
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:38:33 -0500




Shmuel,

In an earlier post on this topic I pointed out that in English we have 
adjectives of varying types, two of which are:

possessive adjectives
limiting adjectives

User manual is a example of the latter and limits the intended audience.
Another example of this is butterfly migration which limits the scope of 
those things migrating.

Non-native speakers often miss this distinction and say things like 
butterflies migration.

My wife is a native Spanish speaker and she claims Spanish does not allow such 
limiting adjectives instead saying the migration of the butterfly. (Note the 
singular butterfly, mimicking the singular user in English.)

Putting butterfly migration into google translate results in migración de la 
mariposa in Spanish. (Not that that proves anything.)

Craig


From:
 Shmuel [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:19 AM

To: Craig, Alison; hessiansx4; Framers

Subject: Re: User's manual vs. User manual


 

We use User’s Manual. User’s Manual is the manual for the User. How do explain 
the name User Manual? If it means the same thing, isn't it missing the 
apostrophe s?




--

Shmuel Wolfson

Technical Writer

052-763-7133




  

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RE: How do you type a dash em in FM12

[Fred Ridder]

In Word, it's an autocorrect as you type option, and it still exists. Except 
that two hypens is autocorrected to an *en*-dash, not an em-dash.

In FrameMaker, I find the easiest approach is to use the Windows keyboard 
shortcut for extended characters. You hold down the Alt key and then type a 
4-digit code on the *numeric* keypad (with NumLock on, of course). 
For an en-dash, it's Alt+0150
For an em-dash, it's Alt+0151
This works in all standard Windows apps.

Otherwise, you can go ahead and type two hyphens and then later do a global 
find  replace. Or you could define a custom keyboard shortcut if you really 
want to.

-Fred Ridder

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: How do you type a dash em in FM12
From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:09:24 -0500

In earlier versions of Word, when you typed
2 hyphens (--) it would automatically convert to a dash em. Is there any
way to do the same or similar in FM12? 









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Business

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