Lenovo athlon laptop
Hello, I bought a lenovo laptop (cpu amd dual core, graphics is radeon 6250 Everything woks, except the graphics that only works with driver vga at 1024x768. if I use the ati driver, it works in 1366x800 (that is the panel resolution, it works ok, but ONLY ONCE, that is, the gdm program opens the login menu, I log in, works all the applications: libreoffice, nautilus, firefox, audio, video but when I log off, then gdm resets the display and all I can see it is a black screen. if I reset the screen several times (about 16 times , by killing gdm) using an ssh session... the login screen appears OK... Seems that the ati driver is mapping the fb wrong... Thanks for any help, Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server. I don't think I have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test. and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do the work. The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/21/11 07:39, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it. No, no- you won't. Both cards in the laptop are ATI. The HTPC has an onboard NVidia, and a PCIe 16x ATI. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server. I don't think I have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test. I'll have to look closer at it when I get a spare breath, it is a little intriguing. and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do the work. The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going. Is there anyone here that _can_ do the work? What about mentoring? As for the financials... thats something else to consider. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've setup (same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and its fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is phenom quad core. The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've setup (same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and its fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is phenom quad core. The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/20/11 03:05, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote: I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come across a satisfactory answer. I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev because there is no data module. I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected. I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine. correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too. BTW, who says multicard vga is rare? Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... So what are my options then? I have 2 high performance cards I can't use? VESA is not exactly an exciting solution - or secure: it somehow retains the image displayed in memory, and shows it as it loads up X the next time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... It's difficult to tell what you're saying. It's possible that multiple cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones I tried did not. Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and a desktop. So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop brand and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with FreeBSD (and which version of FreeBSD). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev
On 12/20/11 14:33, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from another vendor for higher performance. There's hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD. There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other. There should still be two video outputs. More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users. What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird... It's difficult to tell what you're saying. It's possible that multiple cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones I tried did not. Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and a desktop. So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop brand and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with FreeBSD (and which version of FreeBSD). NP. I thought I was clear, but I'm not always coherent when I communicate (apparently... just ask the missus :) ). The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU. The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember. That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ). From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gigabyte GA-71XE4 (single amd athlon cpu motherboard
volodymyr, greetings #Index Previous Next gigabyte GA-71XE4 (single amd athlon cpu motherboard Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kworr at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:29:06 UTC 2008 freebsd v5.2 and 5.3 boots no problems works well but freebsd v7 locks solid right when it get to teh load image to/from md0 device this happens when i use teh -release cdrom to install freebsd. How exactly do you load your image? i have freebsd 5.2-RELEASE and 5.3-RELEASE cdrom sets (downloaded from ftp.au.freebsd.org) and burned to cdrom, the same for 7.0-RELEASE as well as FreeSBIE v1.1 (this one is freebsd v5.3-release i think). u i just put teh cdrom into teh dvd/cdrom reader in teh machine and reboot the machine ,, then it reads from teh cdrom and starts up (or not) depending on what it finds .. i tried again by using a diferent cdrom (cut by a diferent person) and if i use teh standard startup procedure it will lock solid, only turning off teh machine and pulling out teh power cord will recover it so that it will restart next time the power is applied. if i choose option 3 (the safe mode option) it will continute without a pause and sysinstall notes that acpi has been disabled and asks if i want to make this installation do not use acpi ?? i now (on this machine) i say yes .. do not use acpi on this machine !!! i noticed that in teh /var/log/messages freebsd says something about hptrr (rocketraid i think) not found/not available .. i think one of teh lines in teh last screen writings makes reference to this hptrr device ?? in a day or two i will have access again to this machine, it is .. i am not able to get to do anything for it. i plan to try this installation again and see if i can capture teh infomations ??? is there some way that i can capture information this early in teh 'boot' processs ?? i do not have a vt100/vt52 etc terminial to plugin and try to capture the relevent details vi dumb terminal ?? much kind regards and sincere appreciations.. cheers and much thanks jonathan -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gigabyte GA-71XE4 (single amd athlon cpu motherboard
greetings all, i just repaired my old machine by replacing the damaged motherboard with these items motherboard: Gigabyte GA-71XE4 (chipset AMD-75?, with single AMD Athlon cpu) audio: Creative SB PCI 128 (CT-4815) video: nVidia GeForce 4 MX440 SE nic: D-Link DFE-530TX+ 10/100BaseTX (be replaced with intel 10/100) freebsd v5.2 and 5.3 boots no problems works well but freebsd v7 locks solid right when it get to teh load image to/from md0 device this happens when i use teh -release cdrom to install freebsd. i looked on google and on marc tying for gigabyte/ga-71xe4 and various combinations of teh whole chain of bits, also tried specific freebsd lists (-hardware and -questions) and drew blanks .. guess this will change that .. grin. after a bit of thinking i tried booting in 'Safe mode it booted properly and went on to complete the installation and is now working as well as i have seen freebsd work on my other machines. after starting to use safe mode i had no further problems witht eh boot/startup lockups. another thing thats confused me is how freebsd can work out the ide cable is teh wrong one, dose it really make that much difference ?? i have attached the /var/run/dmesg.run and cut down version of /var/log/messages. please reply to address in headers .. i'm not subscribed to questions- some light would be appreciated on this whole acpi issue and if i need nvidia drivers to make teh video card work in normal/text mode ?? much thanks and kind regards jonathan /var/run/dmesg.run Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR AMD Features=0xc0440800SYSCALL,b18,MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! real memory = 805240832 (767 MB) avail memory = 773992448 (738 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27) cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: AMD-751 host to PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 7 Entries on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: AMD 751 host to AGP bridge on hostb0 pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xee00-0xeeff,0xd800-0xdfff,0xe5c8-0xe5cf irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: AMD 756 UDMA66 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: bridge at device 7.3 (no driver attached) ohci0: AMD-756 USB Controller mem 0xefffe000-0xefffefff irq 9 at device 7.4 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: AMD-756 USB Controller on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered rl0: D-Link DFE-530TX+ 10/100BaseTX port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xef00-0xefff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: MII bus on rl0 rlphy0: RealTek internal media interface PHY 0 on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:05:5d:d5:23:f3 rl0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: Creative CT5880-C port 0xde00-0xde3f irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 pcm0: SigmaTel STAC9721/23 AC97 Codec pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: Playback: DAC1,DAC2 / Record: ADC pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FILTER] ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: [FILTER] vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
Re: gigabyte GA-71XE4 (single amd athlon cpu motherboard
jonathan michaels wrote: greetings all, freebsd v5.2 and 5.3 boots no problems works well but freebsd v7 locks solid right when it get to teh load image to/from md0 device this happens when i use teh -release cdrom to install freebsd. How exactly do you load your image? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passive cooling problem with Athlon CPU
I'm running 6.3STABLE with an AMD 4850e Athlon X2 and occasionally get the following message on the console: acpi_tz0: failed to set new freq, disabling passive cooling I also see the following 2 messages immediately after devd starts every time I boot (and which don't appear in any log file): hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 sysctl: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: Invalid argument Should I be concerned about this and, if so, what should I do? The CPU info from dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 30 13:32:39 BST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP ACPI APIC Table: Nvidia NVDAACPI Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Processor model unknown (2410.99-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x60fb2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PS E36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT Features2=0x2001SSE3,CX16 AMD Features=0xea500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow! +,3DNow! AMD Features2=0x11fLAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,Prefetch Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2080309248 (1983 MB) avail memory = 2017738752 (1924 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ... and output from grep acpi /var/run/dmesg.boot acpi0: Nvidia NVDAACPI on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfeff-0xfeff03ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 acpi_tz0: Thermal Zone on acpi0 fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio1: Generic IRDA-compatible device port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: Standard parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfeff-0xfeff03ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passive cooling problem with Athlon CPU
On Saturday 05 July 2008 13:12:19 Mike Clarke wrote: I'm running 6.3STABLE with an AMD 4850e Athlon X2 and occasionally get the following message on the console: acpi_tz0: failed to set new freq, disabling passive cooling I also see the following 2 messages immediately after devd starts every time I boot (and which don't appear in any log file): hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 sysctl: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: Invalid argument And your /etc/sysctl.conf where you set this value? If it's not set by you, it may be set by /etc/rc.d/power_profile based on your /etc/rc.conf. Try to get the 'untainted' output of `sysctl hw.acpi': 0) reboot into single user 1) # fsck -p / 2) # mount -u / 3) # sysctl hw.acpi /tmp/acpi.sysctl 4) # exit Then post /tmp/acpi.sysctl. My guess is no Cx values are obtained from the acpi, not even C1 (which is normal operation mode). This may or may not be related to your failing high precision timer. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passive cooling problem with Athlon CPU
On Saturday 05 July 2008, Mel wrote: And your /etc/sysctl.conf where you set this value? If it's not set by you, it may be set by /etc/rc.d/power_profile based on your /etc/rc.conf. It's not set by me. All I have in /etc/sysctl.conf is: vfs.usermount=1 kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 And, in case it helps, here's /etc/rc.conf: defaultrouter=192.168.1.138 hostname=curlew.lan ifconfig_nve0=inet 192.168.1.13 netmask 255.255.255.0 keymap=uk.iso moused_enable=YES linux_enable=YES scrnmap=NO sshd_enable=YES apache_enable=YES mysql_enable=YES inetd_enable=YES sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO exim_enable=YES anacron_enable=YES samba_enable=YES cupsd_enable=YES ntpd_enable=YES ntpd_sync_on_start=YES lptcontrol_enable=YES background_fsck=NO named_enable=YES spamd_enable=YES spamd_flags=-c -u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd dumpdir=/usr/crash devfs_system_ruleset=system local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d Try to get the 'untainted' output of `sysctl hw.acpi': 0) reboot into single user 1) # fsck -p / 2) # mount -u / 3) # sysctl hw.acpi /tmp/acpi.sysctl 4) # exit Then post /tmp/acpi.sysctl. My guess is no Cx values are obtained from the acpi, not even C1 (which is normal operation mode). This may or may not be related to your failing high precision timer. Here's the output from single user mode: hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S4 S5 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 51.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 68.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 70.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 68.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 4 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 60 -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still is error in atlas package on 2 machines with athlon processors
Hello! I would like to ask you for help with this issue, because about 4 month ago I tried compile atlas (ports/math/atlas) and today and still with no success. I still obtain the following assertion error: 10 cases: 10 passed, 0 skipped, 0 failed Benchmarking xcllttstF NREPS UPLO Nlda TIMEMFLOPS RESID = = = = 1 Lower100100 0.00203 671.262 6.761073e-03 1 Lower200200 0.01329 811.882 4.470909e-03 1 Lower300300 0.02895 1253.066 2.536267e-03 1 Lower400400 0.06035 1421.975 2.848316e-03 1 Lower500500 0.13054 1282.513 3.074112e-03 1 Lower600600 0.21536 1342.329 2.439888e-03 1 Lower700700 0.31553 1454.058 2.280117e-03 1 Lower800800 0.46786 1463.242 1.895154e-03 1 Lower900900 0.62829 1550.929 1.907595e-03 1 Lower 1000 1000 0.84989 1572.366 2.426128e-03 10 cases: 10 passed, 0 skipped, 0 failed Benchmarking xzllttst NREPS UPLO Nlda TIMEMFLOPS RESID = = = = assertion ATL_zpotrf(CblasColMajor, Uplo, N, A, lda) == 0 failed, line 344 of file ../llttst.c *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/ports/math/atlas. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/atlas. I have from dmesg the following processor: FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Dec 1 18:32:38 CET 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) (1240.53-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc0400800SYSCALL,MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2088062976 (1991 MB) On similar machine at my work I also obtained similar assertion error. Whats is going on here? Could you help me? It nervous me that this is not working (4 months pass and still not compiling with success), but I don't know why? Maybe it is hardware error? or maybe someone has this same problem? Please for your help and suggestions how to solve this problem. If you need more information I send it to you. I'm sorry for my English. Thank you in advance. Zbigniew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
Quoting Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:12:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. amd64 and i386 are different platforms in the same sense that sparc64 and ppc are different platforms. An AMD 64 is not back-compatible to pentium pro code when it's in 64-bit mode. Whilst 32-bit binaries can be run on the amd64 platform, they need special handling, you can't just mix-and-match world and kernel platforms. Thanks, RW. I had assumed that and had hoped to run my make buildworld, make buildkernel, mergemaster, make installkernel and make installworld then upgrade all ports. The problem is that I haven't been able to figure out, how to build using all amd64. Again very dumb on my part, I'm sure. ed As RW has said before it's possible. However, it's better and no doubt quicker to go about starting from scratch. -Garrett Hi Garrett, I have decided to do that one machine at a time but for now I'm just going to keep all as is. It seems to be working fine on both current and releng with the standard intel compilation. I just ordered a new machine that I will setup with current amd64 for evaluation and then decide after I've actually used it. Thanks to all for helping me get my feet back on the ground. have a great weekend, ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:12:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. amd64 and i386 are different platforms in the same sense that sparc64 and ppc are different platforms. An AMD 64 is not back-compatible to pentium pro code when it's in 64-bit mode. Whilst 32-bit binaries can be run on the amd64 platform, they need special handling, you can't just mix-and-match world and kernel platforms. Thanks, RW. I had assumed that and had hoped to run my make buildworld, make buildkernel, mergemaster, make installkernel and make installworld then upgrade all ports. The problem is that I haven't been able to figure out, how to build using all amd64. Again very dumb on my part, I'm sure. ed As RW has said before it's possible. However, it's better and no doubt quicker to go about starting from scratch. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:54:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. Are you sure about that? there are few compelling reasons to go to 64-bit, if you already have a working system. As far as performance is concerned, it may go either way. Hi RW, I probably didn't explain very well. I'll try again. The machines that I am updating are all athlon 32 bit machines, which I have been doing a daily cvsup, buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and weekly portupgrade for several years. I just removed the disks from one that is running current and another that is running RELENG, both still running kernels cvsup-ed and compiled yesterday as well as userland. The ports are also up to date. What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. If all were to go well, I would then recompile all my ports. My problem is that when I created a sys/amd64/conf/AMD (just a generic kernel with PF added) file and went to /usr/src and tried make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD it didn't find the kernel configuration file. I tried with paths, etc. and no luck. I also see that my daily compiles and installs have not changed userland programs. /usr/bin/file shows: c++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Using c++ and an example. I assume it should give a 64-bin executable if it were. This particular file was built and installed this morning. The bottom line is that I'm totally ignorant as to this change and have been doing some really dumb searches in that I haven't found what I'm missing. I'm convenced that it is something braindead simple but I am still looking. The good news is that both the current and RELENG boxes are working well with all as before. Again any suggestions or even flames with more information are appreciated. ed Right now all is working fine with todays, sources and kernel except they are compiled for Intel. They are compiled for i386; Intel and AMD both produce CPUs for both platforms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:12:39AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:54:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. No, you do not *need* to compile for 64-bit apps. Are you sure about that? there are few compelling reasons to go to 64-bit, if you already have a working system. As far as performance is concerned, it may go either way. Hi RW, I probably didn't explain very well. I'll try again. The machines that I am updating are all athlon 32 bit machines, which I have been doing a daily cvsup, buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and weekly portupgrade for several years. I just removed the disks from one that is running current and another that is running RELENG, both still running kernels cvsup-ed and compiled yesterday as well as userland. The ports are also up to date. What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. It probably will not work very well. The compiler on an i386 system does not know how to create amd64 code. It is not configured to be a crosscompiler - it will only compile to native i386 code. There is not really any support for switching from i386 to amd64 by source code. It can apparently be done if you know what you are doing but it is not trivial and not documented. The normal build system assumes that you are doing a native build by default. It is possible to build for a different system, but then you first need to build the necessary cross-tools (compiler, linker, assembler, etc.) and then use that to build the rest of the system. If all were to go well, I would then recompile all my ports. My problem is that when I created a sys/amd64/conf/AMD (just a generic kernel with PF added) file and went to /usr/src and tried make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD it didn't find the kernel configuration file. I tried with paths, etc. and no luck. I also see that my daily compiles and installs have not changed userland programs. /usr/bin/file shows: c++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Using c++ and an example. I assume it should give a 64-bin executable if it were. This particular file was built and installed this morning. The bottom line is that I'm totally ignorant as to this change and have been doing some really dumb searches in that I haven't found what I'm missing. I'm convenced that it is something braindead simple but I am still looking. The good news is that both the current and RELENG boxes are working well with all as before. Again any suggestions or even flames with more information are appreciated. Why don't you just keep running the i386 version of FreeBSD ? Is there some particular reason you want to use the amd64 version ? ed Right now all is working fine with todays, sources and kernel except they are compiled for Intel. They are compiled for i386; Intel and AMD both produce CPUs for both platforms. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:12:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. amd64 and i386 are different platforms in the same sense that sparc64 and ppc are different platforms. An AMD 64 is not back-compatible to pentium pro code when it's in 64-bit mode. Whilst 32-bit binaries can be run on the amd64 platform, they need special handling, you can't just mix-and-match world and kernel platforms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:12:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. amd64 and i386 are different platforms in the same sense that sparc64 and ppc are different platforms. An AMD 64 is not back-compatible to pentium pro code when it's in 64-bit mode. Whilst 32-bit binaries can be run on the amd64 platform, they need special handling, you can't just mix-and-match world and kernel platforms. Thanks, RW. I had assumed that and had hoped to run my make buildworld, make buildkernel, mergemaster, make installkernel and make installworld then upgrade all ports. The problem is that I haven't been able to figure out, how to build using all amd64. Again very dumb on my part, I'm sure. ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
Quoting Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:12:39AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:54:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. No, you do not *need* to compile for 64-bit apps. Are you sure about that? there are few compelling reasons to go to 64-bit, if you already have a working system. As far as performance is concerned, it may go either way. Hi RW, I probably didn't explain very well. I'll try again. The machines that I am updating are all athlon 32 bit machines, which I have been doing a daily cvsup, buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and weekly portupgrade for several years. I just removed the disks from one that is running current and another that is running RELENG, both still running kernels cvsup-ed and compiled yesterday as well as userland. The ports are also up to date. What I am trying to do is compile an amd64 kernel, install it and see what happens ;) I can always go back to the generic kernel compiled in sys/i386. It probably will not work very well. The compiler on an i386 system does not know how to create amd64 code. It is not configured to be a crosscompiler - it will only compile to native i386 code. There is not really any support for switching from i386 to amd64 by source code. It can apparently be done if you know what you are doing but it is not trivial and not documented. The normal build system assumes that you are doing a native build by default. It is possible to build for a different system, but then you first need to build the necessary cross-tools (compiler, linker, assembler, etc.) and then use that to build the rest of the system. If all were to go well, I would then recompile all my ports. My problem is that when I created a sys/amd64/conf/AMD (just a generic kernel with PF added) file and went to /usr/src and tried make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD it didn't find the kernel configuration file. I tried with paths, etc. and no luck. I also see that my daily compiles and installs have not changed userland programs. /usr/bin/file shows: c++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Using c++ and an example. I assume it should give a 64-bin executable if it were. This particular file was built and installed this morning. The bottom line is that I'm totally ignorant as to this change and have been doing some really dumb searches in that I haven't found what I'm missing. I'm convenced that it is something braindead simple but I am still looking. The good news is that both the current and RELENG boxes are working well with all as before. Again any suggestions or even flames with more information are appreciated. Why don't you just keep running the i386 version of FreeBSD ? Is there some particular reason you want to use the amd64 version ? Hi Erik, Ignorance, I assume, is my only excuse? At least thanks to your patience and explanation, I understand and am somewhat less ignorant;) Originally, I had ordered these and I was promised that they were dual core and I had to pay in advance. When they finally arrived, I found that they were standard AMD Athlon 3800+ and no x2 so it looks like I was had but that will be another story. Then it would have made sense to change to 64 bit. For the moment my problem is solved and I'll stay with 32 bit for now. Thanks, ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. I have configured a slightly modified sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC kernel and was going to build it as a test only to find out that a simple make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD doesn't find /sys/amd64/conf/AMD. There is an old reference in UPDATING from 5.0 that didn't work either. The other question is on today's make world all seems to still be compiled ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 so I am sure missing something very simple. I'm actually going to update serveral machines, both Current and RELENG. All of which are up to date. Hopefully there will be no major problems. I also plan to recompile all ports once I am able to build and install an AMD64 world and kernel. Right now all is working fine with todays, sources and kernel except they are compiled for Intel. Any other suggestions appreciated. Maybe someone might recommend upgrading the RELENG boxes to CURRENT first? Thanks, ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. I have configured a slightly modified sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC kernel and was going to build it as a test only to find out that a simple make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD doesn't find /sys/amd64/conf/AMD. There is an old reference in UPDATING from 5.0 that didn't work either. The other question is on today's make world all seems to still be compiled ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 so I am sure missing something very simple. I'm actually going to update serveral machines, both Current and RELENG. All of which are up to date. Hopefully there will be no major problems. I also plan to recompile all ports once I am able to build and install an AMD64 world and kernel. Right now all is working fine with todays, sources and kernel except they are compiled for Intel. Any other suggestions appreciated. Maybe someone might recommend upgrading the RELENG boxes to CURRENT first? Thanks, ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:50:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. I have configured a slightly modified sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC kernel and was going to build it as a test only to find out that a simple make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD doesn't find /sys/amd64/conf/AMD. There is an old reference in UPDATING from 5.0 that didn't work either. The other question is on today's make world all seems to still be compiled ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 so I am sure missing something very simple. It is possible to cross-build for amd64, but you'll need a seperate partition to put the 64-bit environment on. Look at the mailing list archives. This question has come up before. But to keep things simple, I'd advise you to backup your files, configuration files from /etc and possible /usr/ports/distfiles, reinstall from an amd64 CD and then rebuild your kernel, world and ports to your liking. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpE5Lad6GZcr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
Quoting Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:50:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. I have configured a slightly modified sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC kernel and was going to build it as a test only to find out that a simple make buildkernel KERNCONF=AMD doesn't find /sys/amd64/conf/AMD. There is an old reference in UPDATING from 5.0 that didn't work either. The other question is on today's make world all seems to still be compiled ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 so I am sure missing something very simple. It is possible to cross-build for amd64, but you'll need a seperate partition to put the 64-bit environment on. Look at the mailing list archives. This question has come up before. But to keep things simple, I'd advise you to backup your files, configuration files from /etc and possible /usr/ports/distfiles, reinstall from an amd64 CD and then rebuild your kernel, world and ports to your liking. Hi Roland. Boy am I glad that I asked. That is probably the last thing I would have done. Plus thanks for the answer, I must not have done a proper search. I hope that the apps will run after reinstalling. I assume that the source tree will somehow recognize that I will be building world and the kernel on a AMD64. I'm downloading a copy of disk2 from FreeBSD now. Have a great day. ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from an old athlon to a new 64 bit one.
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:54:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stuck the disks from an old AMD Athlon(tm) (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) into a new box with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.78-MHz 686-class CPU). I am still building a daily kernel with the old configuration and all is well. Of course the old configuration was/is i386. Now I need to compile for 64 bit apps. Are you sure about that? there are few compelling reasons to go to 64-bit, if you already have a working system. As far as performance is concerned, it may go either way. Right now all is working fine with todays, sources and kernel except they are compiled for Intel. They are compiled for i386; Intel and AMD both produce CPUs for both platforms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: optimization for Athlon 64 X2
On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:51 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote: Garrett Cooper wrote: Daniel Dvo??ák wrote: Hi all, out of curiosity, which CPUTYPE setting is appropriate for dual Manchester core Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor with FreeBSD 6.2 (GCC 3.4.4) ? Googling throws up nothing useful. Dan Try the -march value listed here (athlon64): http://gentoo- wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Athlon_64_X2_.28AMD.29. -Garrett That looks suspiciously like linux documentation...and he was asking about the CPUTYPE setting in make.conf which is (?) FreeBSD specific? Anyways, there's a sample make.conf in /usr/share/examples/etc/ that documents the various CPUTYPEs available. Thanks, Josh Paetzel It is Linux documentation, but considering that a) gcc is the gnu based compiler, b) FreeBSD uses gcc for compiling everything, and c) march = CPUTYPE, that's why I suggested to use that value :). Besides, Gentoo's crazier about compiling (in some respects) compared to FreeBSD. Don't worry -- I wouldn't (knowingly) lead someone astray :). -Garrett___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
optimization for Athlon 64 X2
Hi all, out of curiosity, which CPUTYPE setting is appropriate for dual Manchester core Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor with FreeBSD 6.2 (GCC 3.4.4) ? Googling throws up nothing useful. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: optimization for Athlon 64 X2
Daniel Dvořák wrote: Hi all, out of curiosity, which CPUTYPE setting is appropriate for dual Manchester core Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor with FreeBSD 6.2 (GCC 3.4.4) ? Googling throws up nothing useful. Dan Try the -march value listed here (athlon64): http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Athlon_64_X2_.28AMD.29. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: optimization for Athlon 64 X2
Garrett Cooper wrote: Daniel Dvo??ák wrote: Hi all, out of curiosity, which CPUTYPE setting is appropriate for dual Manchester core Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor with FreeBSD 6.2 (GCC 3.4.4) ? Googling throws up nothing useful. Dan Try the -march value listed here (athlon64): http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Athlon_64_X2_.28AMD.29. -Garrett That looks suspiciously like linux documentation...and he was asking about the CPUTYPE setting in make.conf which is (?) FreeBSD specific? Anyways, there's a sample make.conf in /usr/share/examples/etc/ that documents the various CPUTYPEs available. Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I build i386 arch on Athlon 64?
Gary W. Swearingen wrote: So how do I build a i386 system on the amd64 system? Download the i386 iso and burn that onto CD. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I build i386 arch on Athlon 64?
I finally found a clue right there in /usr/src/Makefile, where it talks about TARGET_ARCH. But when I used it with i386, it seemed to be compiling for the default gcc (386, I suppose), even when I had CPUTYPE=athlon-xp in /etc/make.conf. This seems to be doing the job (though it's still building): make TARGET_ARCH=i386 TARGET_CPUTYPE=athlon-xp make-target ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I build i386 arch on Athlon 64?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: make TARGET_ARCH=i386 TARGET_CPUTYPE=athlon-xp make-target Well, that built OK, but the resulting kernel panic'd (the same way) with or without the TARGET_CPUTYPE in there: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a exec /sbin/init : error 8 ... init: not found in path panic: no init I guess I'll try again after cvsup'ing and then give it up, get an i386 CDROM, and try upgrading with that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I build i386 arch on Athlon 64?
I'm back... with more problems, naturally. New CPU motherboard, and now SCSI interface fails, CDRW fails as ATAPI or SCSI, PCI parallel card fails, and too many wanted ports don't work on amd64. I hope an i386 OS will work better and I can work the amd64 problems at my leisure. So how do I build a i386 system on the amd64 system? I've tried passing ARCH=pentiumpro to make and also tried putting pentiumpro in /etc/make and tried building a cross-compiling gcc34, but I'm not having much luck. This seems like it would be a FAQ, but I didn't see anything helpful in the handbook or faq or groups.google or the make files. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64
Hello, I also try freebsd-5.21 i386 still have the same problem. I boot openBSD-i386 , the system freezed. Boot openBSD-AMD64 OK but openBSD does not support nVIDIA GeFORCE.xx so No graphic display at all .. It seems HP-compag presario R3240CA model ( athlon 64 AMD ) is not a good disigned ... I like FreeBSD it's easier to install than OpenDSD or NetBSD. It seems HP works well on Sesu linux from Novell. Do you have any ideas what I need to make the system works? Thanks Khai Dao ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64 -Nvida-gforce3 chipset
Kangaroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need help on instaling freebsd 5.3 AMD64 on my lap top. When I boot from cd rom, The system boot up to menu screen show 1...7 where 2 eg. boot with disable ACPI... My system automatically shutdown when I press any key from 1 or 7 or just press enter. I mean it SHUTDOWN my machine. There is a possibility that the machine contains various components which are not fully supported in FreeBSD/amd64. What happens if you try booting FreeBSD/i386 instead? I know this may not be the most satisfying suggestion, but if it's that or not getting the machine to boot at all, well, there it is. I'd venture a guess that whichever software came with the machine originally is not quite 64 bit clean either. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64 -Nvida-gforce3 chipset
I need help on instaling freebsd 5.3 AMD64 on my lap top. When I boot from cd rom, The system boot up to menu screen show 1...7 where 2 eg. boot with disable ACPI... My system automatically shutdown when I press any key from 1 or 7 or just press enter. I mean it SHUTDOWN my machine. What is wrong... I have follow the instruction from the web I need to disbale some IO.. from BIOS. But my bios has no option to do that. Is any one has the same LAPTOP I have? HELP!!! Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Khai ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
I tested with FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.3. The same problem ocurs, when the the machine not reboot, varios coredumps in as/gcc hapens during make buildworld. Hardware: Asus A7V600-X AMD Sempron 2400+ 512MB DDR 400 any ideas ?? On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:28:17 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) Minnesota Slinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. For checking temp just ssh in and use mbmon while it is going... I would suspect ram problems. Heat problems from my experience generally cause some errors before failing and freezing. Never seen a heat problem result in a reboot yet. The way to check for this is to swap the ram out, after checking heat using ssh, mbmon, and a `cd /usr/src/ make buildworld/ cd /usr/ports/math/atlas make`. This command series you will also use each time as it provides a very good method for taking a system down since I've seen problems where just one of those would not take it down before. If you still get it, continue swap out the power supply next. Possiblility of not liking extra stress from active hard drive. Had this a bit on one old P2 gateway at one time. If it is still there do the same with proc. By now we should be able to safely rule out heat, provided that the sensor is functioning properly. If it still goes down, it is the mother board getting flaky under heavy load. This can happen. I had a Abit NF7-S2 that happened with lately. Swapped it out and it went away. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:19:25 -0600 (CST), draconius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are your temperatures inside the case? what kind of cooling / airflow do you have in the case? I have had heat problems before due to bad airflow in the case where all the hot air concentraded around the processor(s) -drac I tested with FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.3. The same problem ocurs, when the the machine not reboot, varios coredumps in as/gcc hapens during make buildworld. Hardware: Asus A7V600-X AMD Sempron 2400+ 512MB DDR 400 any ideas ?? I think I am running AV7600 (no X), and when I was thinking about upgrading the ram, I saw a note saying to check Asus' website to make sure they have tested the ram first. With lower speed ram, you can probably run anything, but for the highest speed stuff, you should check to make sure they work well with it. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
Hmm... dude, you need to do the testing on your own... read through my last email and you will find the path that will most likely find the problem On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:14:58 -0200 Alexandre Biancalana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested with FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.3. The same problem ocurs, when the the machine not reboot, varios coredumps in as/gcc hapens during make buildworld. Hardware: Asus A7V600-X AMD Sempron 2400+ 512MB DDR 400 any ideas ?? On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:28:17 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) Minnesota Slinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. For checking temp just ssh in and use mbmon while it is going... I would suspect ram problems. Heat problems from my experience generally cause some errors before failing and freezing. Never seen a heat problem result in a reboot yet. The way to check for this is to swap the ram out, after checking heat using ssh, mbmon, and a `cd /usr/src/ make buildworld/ cd /usr/ports/math/atlas make`. This command series you will also use each time as it provides a very good method for taking a system down since I've seen problems where just one of those would not take it down before. If you still get it, continue swap out the power supply next. Possiblility of not liking extra stress from active hard drive. Had this a bit on one old P2 gateway at one time. If it is still there do the same with proc. By now we should be able to safely rule out heat, provided that the sensor is functioning properly. If it still goes down, it is the mother board getting flaky under heavy load. This can happen. I had a Abit NF7-S2 that happened with lately. Swapped it out and it went away. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
Hi ! The case is opened I'm using the same cooling used in another machine that is working great (Asus A7N8X-X/Sempron 2400+/DDR400). On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:19:25 -0600 (CST), draconius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are your temperatures inside the case? what kind of cooling / airflow do you have in the case? I have had heat problems before due to bad airflow in the case where all the hot air concentraded around the processor(s) -drac I tested with FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.3. The same problem ocurs, when the the machine not reboot, varios coredumps in as/gcc hapens during make buildworld. Hardware: Asus A7V600-X AMD Sempron 2400+ 512MB DDR 400 any ideas ?? On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:28:17 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) Minnesota Slinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. For checking temp just ssh in and use mbmon while it is going... I would suspect ram problems. Heat problems from my experience generally cause some errors before failing and freezing. Never seen a heat problem result in a reboot yet. The way to check for this is to swap the ram out, after checking heat using ssh, mbmon, and a `cd /usr/src/ make buildworld/ cd /usr/ports/math/atlas make`. This command series you will also use each time as it provides a very good method for taking a system down since I've seen problems where just one of those would not take it down before. If you still get it, continue swap out the power supply next. Possiblility of not liking extra stress from active hard drive. Had this a bit on one old P2 gateway at one time. If it is still there do the same with proc. By now we should be able to safely rule out heat, provided that the sensor is functioning properly. If it still goes down, it is the mother board getting flaky under heavy load. This can happen. I had a Abit NF7-S2 that happened with lately. Swapped it out and it went away. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : *** Fight Back! It may not be just YOUR life at risk! * : :a.k.a - phoetoid : unix d00d : cowboy kid : pr0nmaster : : Fully Qualified M.C.S.E : Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert : :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.pyrospheric.net : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.unixforums.net : :Unix Now! ...Because friends don't let friends use Microsoft. : ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:43:18 -0800 Derrick Ryalls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:19:25 -0600 (CST), draconius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are your temperatures inside the case? what kind of cooling / airflow do you have in the case? I have had heat problems before due to bad airflow in the case where all the hot air concentraded around the processor(s) -drac I tested with FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.3. The same problem ocurs, when the the machine not reboot, varios coredumps in as/gcc hapens during make buildworld. Hardware: Asus A7V600-X AMD Sempron 2400+ 512MB DDR 400 any ideas ?? I think I am running AV7600 (no X), and when I was thinking about upgrading the ram, I saw a note saying to check Asus' website to make sure they have tested the ram first. With lower speed ram, you can probably run anything, but for the highest speed stuff, you should check to make sure they work well with it. This is only true if is a ram problem or the like, if it is a mother board problem this does not make much of a difference from my experience. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
Minnesota Slinky wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Do you have any reason to suspect heat? If you're trying to install 5.3, check /var/log/messages for lines about DMA errors. If there are any, you might have hit this DMA bug that affects some users (often with Maxtor hard drives). Peter. -- the circle squared network systems and software http://www.circlesquared.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
I'm having the same problem with Sempron 2400+. When I do make buildworld or the machine reboot or assembler errors ocurs... On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:59:36 +, Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minnesota Slinky wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Do you have any reason to suspect heat? If you're trying to install 5.3, check /var/log/messages for lines about DMA errors. If there are any, you might have hit this DMA bug that affects some users (often with Maxtor hard drives). Peter. -- the circle squared network systems and software http://www.circlesquared.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) Minnesota Slinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. For checking temp just ssh in and use mbmon while it is going... I would suspect ram problems. Heat problems from my experience generally cause some errors before failing and freezing. Never seen a heat problem result in a reboot yet. The way to check for this is to swap the ram out, after checking heat using ssh, mbmon, and a `cd /usr/src/ make buildworld/ cd /usr/ports/math/atlas make`. This command series you will also use each time as it provides a very good method for taking a system down since I've seen problems where just one of those would not take it down before. If you still get it, continue swap out the power supply next. Possiblility of not liking extra stress from active hard drive. Had this a bit on one old P2 gateway at one time. If it is still there do the same with proc. By now we should be able to safely rule out heat, provided that the sensor is functioning properly. If it still goes down, it is the mother board getting flaky under heavy load. This can happen. I had a Abit NF7-S2 that happened with lately. Swapped it out and it went away. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. Thanks for the input! ___ Eric F Crist I am so smart, S.M.R.T! Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
Minnesota Slinky wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. Thanks for the input! ___ Eric F Crist I am so smart, S.M.R.T! Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell the bios to set off an alarm at a high temp, and use sysctl -a | grep thermal to get your temps. What kind of power supply do you have? Have you changed or checked other bios settings? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and reboots under load...
On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:34 PM, jason wrote: Minnesota Slinky wrote: Hello list. I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to my home server. I purchased an Asus A7V600-X motherboard, an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ processor, and installed 1GB of DDR 400 memory. If it matters, I've got two 120 GB Maxtor HDDs in a RAID 1 array. The problem I'm having is that the system reboots half-way through a make buildworld. I'm guessing this has to do with heat, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any insight? I've tried telling the BIOS to ignore the proc/mobo temp. Not sure yet if that's working. Thanks for the input! Tell the bios to set off an alarm at a high temp, and use sysctl -a | grep thermal to get your temps. What kind of power supply do you have? Have you changed or checked other bios settings? I don't see any settings in BIOS regarding alarms and such. All I can do in BIOS is monitor the temp and fan speeds. I tried changing some settings, but when I do, the mobo decides I must have a different processor. Thanks for the help. ___ Eric F Crist I am so smart, S.M.R.T! Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
panic: page fault in /stand/sysinstall on Asus K8V with Athlon 64
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 in a new machine which has an Asus
K8V motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 2800+ CPU and 1GB of PC3200 ECC
memory. Storage is a pair of Seagate ST-3200822A 200GB UATA-100 disks
in a mirror group on a 3Ware Escalade 7006-2 RAID controller.
Initially, I didn't have a CDROM drive on the machine, so I created a
pair of floppies using /cdrom/floppies/{kern,mfsroot}.flp from the
FreeBSD Mall CD and attempted to boot from them. After loading both
and going beyond the kernel config menu, FreeBSD booted then puked:
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
/stand/sysinstall running as init on vty0
panic: page fault
Thinking perhaps FreeBSD 4.10 was being weird, I tried 4.9. It got
very slightly further, displaying most of the first menu screen, before
the page fault.
I then scrounged a CDROM, installed it, and tried booting directly off
the CDROM. Same results, both for 4.10 and for 4.9. I also tried 5.2.1
with a similar outcome.
I didn't think the 3Ware care was likely to be a problem but just to be
thorough I pulled that and tried again. No change.
Naturually I've gone through the archives and it seems that others are
using the K8V successfully.
Any suggestions?
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Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Bill Moran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Patrick Crosby wrote: Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. This is the standard weird hangs answer, forgive me if you've already checked these: 1) Does is hang on other hardware as well or just this machine? i'm the only one in the office running CURRENT, and since it is hanging more than 5.1 was, i told everyone else to wait before upgrading. but a coworker (with different hardware [single processor], but also AMD-based) does get hangs like mine. 2) Have you checked the RAM with memtest86 or similar? yes. 3) Have you ensured the hardware isn't overheating? i've checked the cpu temp and it is fine. 4) Is the box in question on a UPS? yes. These seem to be the most common problems with FreeBSD hanging. I know none of them have much to do with FreeBSD, but that's just the statistical reality of it. If the answer to #1 indicates an issue with this particular machine, it could still be a problem with FreeBSD on that particular hardware. #4 is a rarity, but I've seen crappy power cause weird problems. Undersized power supplies can cause similar problems. so i should try running with it off the UPS? the power supply should be ok. fwiw, the coworker who also gets hangs is *not* on a UPS. it could be a building power weirdness (which is why i plugged into the UPS to begin with)... would rebuilding the kernel with INVARIANTS or WITNESS help at all? thanks. patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
What I can say to this problem is : - I've open a bug report : 66098 mainly for the same reason : I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1 patch 5 with a fresh build world (it took me 3 days to have world since gcc was hanging the machine all 5 minutes approximatly) on an SMP machine with two PIII 733 and a BIOS compatible SMP 1.4 specs (the motherboard is an MSI board) with feature like PM enable and APIC enable. The first think I face out was when I shutdown the machine shutdown -h or -r my machine hangs at stopping .. vnlru stopped after nothing I 've seen that this allways hang when boot() is called on cpu1 and that when sometime when boot is called from cpu0 my machine can stop or reboot correctly. But boot on cpu1 represent 98% of my tests. Some days after, when I was running an heavy compilation, I face out severals machine hangs. So I've started to investigate temperature problem, RAM problem disk, etc... Just to be sure, I've reinstall this machine under Linux with a 2.6 Kernel. No problems. So I come back to FreeBSD from a fresh install and start investigating acpi. Since now 2 weeks, the machine never hangs with just one trick (a bad trick for sure) : acpiconf -d . I've disabled acpi management. I let boot the machine and setting up acpi conf since the acpi.ko module is load at boot time and in the final boot process I disable acpi with this command. May be you could test to see if you experience allways the same problem or if that's solved the problem and report here the problem. I think acpi code witch seems to be recent in FreeBSD have some problem may be due to specific management or bugs of our cheapset : mine is a VIA694. I remember that under Linux it took a long time to have a stable machine with acpi enable (in fact this was stabilize when IBM and Intel provide some code to handle acpi) : acpi code was clean but this was how specs were implemented on cheapset that was breaking code So they had to handle some specific chipset feature ... Another way to test could be to disable PM in Bios for a limited time to know if the problem persist. just my two cents. Thierry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
This isn't a laptop, it's a dual-processor desktop w/ two athlon mp 2600's. But I monitored the temperature all day long today. It hasn't fluctuated more than a degree, and yet I just got another hang (while compiling). The temperature of the cpus and motherboard was the same that it was all day long... Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. Patrick Ray Seals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
* Patrick Crosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-05 12:10]: This isn't a laptop, it's a dual-processor desktop w/ two athlon mp 2600's. But I monitored the temperature all day long today. It hasn't fluctuated more than a degree, and yet I just got another hang (while compiling). The temperature of the cpus and motherboard was the same that it was all day long... Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. Patrick Ray Seals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] It is now possible to specify a -j option to make which will cause it to spawn several simultaneous processes. This is most useful on multi-CPU machines. However, since much of the compiling process is IO bound rather than CPU bound it is also useful on single CPU machines. On a typical single-CPU machine you would run: # make -j4 buildworld make(1) will then have up to 4 processes running at any one time. Empirical evidence posted to the mailing lists shows this generally gives the best performance benefit. If you have a multi-CPU machine and you are using an SMP configured kernel try values between 6 and 10 and see how they speed things up. Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. [/snip] -- Joshua Mmm Jar-Jar; everyone hates you, but me. -- Comic Book Guy ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Joshua Lokken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] [snip] # make -j4 buildworld [snip] Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Patrick Crosby wrote: Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. This is the standard weird hangs answer, forgive me if you've already checked these: 1) Does is hang on other hardware as well or just this machine? 2) Have you checked the RAM with memtest86 or similar? 3) Have you ensured the hardware isn't overheating? 4) Is the box in question on a UPS? These seem to be the most common problems with FreeBSD hanging. I know none of them have much to do with FreeBSD, but that's just the statistical reality of it. If the answer to #1 indicates an issue with this particular machine, it could still be a problem with FreeBSD on that particular hardware. #4 is a rarity, but I've seen crappy power cause weird problems. Undersized power supplies can cause similar problems. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Patrick Crosby wrote: Joshua Lokken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] [snip] # make -j4 buildworld [snip] Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. Don't know that this will help you at all, but I'm running dual Athlon MP2800s, ASUS A7M266-D m/b, 1Gbyte RAM with a month old -CURRENT and have just built Mozilla, Firefox, and Thunderbird back to back and updated a few ports at the same time without any hangs so the problem isn't specific to all dual Athlon setups. BTW, what do you use to monitor CPU temps in FreeBSD? Regards, Mark patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
I'm also running 5.2.1. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Check out this PowerNow! patch/module, http://demira.shopkeeper.de/~sascha/nx9005/ Its supposed to automatically set processor voltage depending on the hw.powernow.state set in the kernel. I havent got it to work automatically but I can manually set it to state 2 or 3 and the tempeture and fan noise drop down dramatically. Note that you do sacrifice speed for heat and noise. To me this is not an issue, my XP 1600 is still fast running at 1ghz for my needs. I just got started programming so I cant help out :), yet... maybe some of our smart delevopers will look into it further. Jose Lima On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:32, Ray Seals wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Athlon
Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 19:12, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? 1) yes, athlons are i386 machines. 2) you should read your /var/run/dmesg.boot if it is i586 or i686 processor -- DanGer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Athlon
It's an i386 Architecture yes, the processor is not an 80386 if you ment that. I think you can select i686 if a 1.4Ghz machine (i think you ment that instead of Mhz?) But setting the defaults will also work :) Cheers, -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder Elvandar.org/DSINet.org www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the hackerscene mrtg.grunn.org Dutch mirror of MRTG -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Teilhard Knight Verzonden: zondag 29 februari 2004 19:12 Aan: FreeBSD Onderwerp: Athlon Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Athlon
On 29-Feb-2004 Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? I use an Athlon here, myself. In my kernel config, I have: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU# aka Pentium Pro(tm) options CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU options CPU_UPGRADE_HW_CACHE options CPU_WT_ALLOC options NO_MEMORY_HOLE And in /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE?=k7 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe HTH. -- Conrad Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In Unix veritas ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:36 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. I was going to send one of these but then I got to thinking about what you needed to know before you download an iso or whatever. The web site really doesn't tell you that an Athlon is a 686 and you need to know that before you do the install and can look at the dmesg output. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
- Original Message - From: DanGer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Athlon On Sunday 29 February 2004 19:12, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? 1) yes, athlons are i386 machines. 2) you should read your /var/run/dmesg.boot if it is i586 or i686 processor Right, I'll read that file. Thanks so much for the feedback. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
It's an i386 Architecture yes, the processor is not an 80386 if you ment that. I think you can select i686 if a 1.4Ghz machine (i think you ment that instead of Mhz?) But setting the defaults will also work :) I guess you composed your reply twice. Thaks so much for taking the time. Teilhard Cheers, -- Kind regards,___ 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On 29-Feb-2004 Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? I use an Athlon here, myself. In my kernel config, I have: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU# aka Pentium Pro(tm) options CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU options CPU_UPGRADE_HW_CACHE options CPU_WT_ALLOC options NO_MEMORY_HOLE And in /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE?=k7 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe Thanks a lot. This info will help me very much. I have compiled a kernel for a Pentium IV 1.6 GHz, and I had no problems. I hope this time I can make it right too. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:36 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. I was going to send one of these but then I got to thinking about what you needed to know before you download an iso or whatever. The web site really doesn't tell you that an Athlon is a 686 and you need to know that before you do the install and can look at the dmesg output. Many thanks. Yes, the web site only speaks about Pentium. Couldn't find the info there. But now I know where I'm standing. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Migrating 5.2 from Pentium 4 to Athlon MP
Hello all, I have a server currently running on a Pentium 4 box. Yesterday I bought an AMD 762 MPX chipset to go with two Athlon MP 2000+. The production server is running FreeBSD 5.2, a GENERIC with additional SCSI/RAID controllers trimmed off. The kernel and all of the userland + ports were built with -march=p4 flags and I am wondering if there's any way I can just plug the disk into the Athlon box without rebuilding everything with the exception of the world+kernel. FYI, the kernel is SMP-aware. How does the -march flag effect the userland programs? I am aware that only OpenSSL is capable of taking advantage of specific CPU instructions but other than that? Thank you for your time, Ihsan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Migrating 5.2 from Pentium 4 to Athlon MP
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 09:10 am, Ihsan Junaidi wrote: Hello all, I have a server currently running on a Pentium 4 box. Yesterday I bought an AMD 762 MPX chipset to go with two Athlon MP 2000+. The production server is running FreeBSD 5.2, a GENERIC with additional SCSI/RAID controllers trimmed off. The kernel and all of the userland + ports were built with -march=p4 flags and I am wondering if there's any way I can just plug the disk into the Athlon box without rebuilding everything with the exception of the world+kernel. FYI, the kernel is SMP-aware. How does the -march flag effect the userland programs? I am aware that only OpenSSL is capable of taking advantage of specific CPU instructions but other than that? Rebuild your system with out the cpu flags in make.conf. It is too likely that there is cpu specific stuff in userland libraries that were linked to your builds. I have moved from P-IIIs to AMDs without problems. I also don't use the cpu flag on systems that I may NFS mount to rebuild one of the other systems with. I have recovered systems by doing a NFS mount and and installkernel and installworld. I wouldn't have even tried if they had been built with a cpu option. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Athlon to XP woes
We have an asus A7V133 that had a 1.2 and 256 megs or memory. It's happily running 4.7 stable. I wanted to put an athlon XP chip and 1 gig more memory. The first thing I did was update the bios and then installed the chip and memory. Then when starting it got core dumps all over (sendmail getty, ect.). Then I removed the memory and still got the dumps. After I replaced the chip (XP1700) with the 1.2 and all the dumps stopped. When upgrading to a chip like that (athlon to XP) do I need to do something different to BSD so it will not flake out. -- Jay Desjardins Voice: 617-745-3802 Desktop and Phone support Help desk: 617-745-3727 Eastern Nazarene CollegeE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 E. Elm Avenue Quincy, MA 02170 * ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon to XP woes
jay desjardins writes: We have an asus A7V133 that had a 1.2 and 256 megs or memory. It's happily running 4.7 stable. I wanted to put an athlon XP chip and 1 gig more memory. The first thing I did was update the bios and then installed the chip and memory. Then when starting it got core dumps all over (sendmail getty, ect.). Then I removed the memory and still got the dumps. After I replaced the chip (XP1700) with the 1.2 and all the dumps stopped. When upgrading to a chip like that (athlon to XP) do I need to do something different to BSD so it will not flake out. Did you also upgrade the CPU cooler? This sounds like overheating to me. I've gone from a 1.2 MHz Athlon-C to a 1800+ XP w/o any problem, but I bought a new cooler. --- Gary Jennejohn / [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good integrated Athlon chipset for FreeBSD
Hello all, I'm building a small workgroup (10 PCs) which will be used for software and network testing as well for day-to-day usage. We're also conducting small classes teaching UNIX for school students in our area. Therefore I'm looking for a good integrated Athlon chipset which are supported in FreeBSD. I'm specifically looking at Epox EP-8KMM+ utilizing the VIA KM266 chipset. But I'm a little doubtful about the sound, video and above all, the NIC. The sound uses Realtek ALC201A chipset, the video is VT8375 ProSavage8 and the NIC utilizes Realtek RTL8100B(L). I can't seem to find on the FreeBSD hardware page supports for the sound and the NIC while a search on Xfree driver site turned zero on the video. Does this mean, that they are not supported? I'm really interested in the chipset because it's cheap and most of us are literate when it comes to hardware, we can skip the support that comes with pricier brands and motherboards. My other option would be Asus A7N-266E using the nForce 420D chipset. I've heard cases that this particular motherboard is usable in FreeBSD. The NIC is RTL8139 (rl) while other nForce boards seem to use the MCP-D built-in LAN, which I can't seem to find any cases of it being run on any installation. I'm open to any suggestion that will allow me to choose the best platform for our research. Cost of course is a factor but I will not buy cheap if it's going to prove a hassle in the future. Thank you for your time. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Good integrated Athlon chipset for FreeBSD
The nForce based boards would be your best bet. Good solid chipset with a decent video core. You should be able to find one that's less expensive than the Asus. Perhaps an MSI or Gigabyte. --Adam - Original Message - From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 5:57 AM Subject: Good integrated Athlon chipset for FreeBSD Hello all, I'm building a small workgroup (10 PCs) which will be used for software and network testing as well for day-to-day usage. We're also conducting small classes teaching UNIX for school students in our area. Therefore I'm looking for a good integrated Athlon chipset which are supported in FreeBSD. I'm specifically looking at Epox EP-8KMM+ utilizing the VIA KM266 chipset. But I'm a little doubtful about the sound, video and above all, the NIC. The sound uses Realtek ALC201A chipset, the video is VT8375 ProSavage8 and the NIC utilizes Realtek RTL8100B(L). I can't seem to find on the FreeBSD hardware page supports for the sound and the NIC while a search on Xfree driver site turned zero on the video. Does this mean, that they are not supported? I'm really interested in the chipset because it's cheap and most of us are literate when it comes to hardware, we can skip the support that comes with pricier brands and motherboards. My other option would be Asus A7N-266E using the nForce 420D chipset. I've heard cases that this particular motherboard is usable in FreeBSD. The NIC is RTL8139 (rl) while other nForce boards seem to use the MCP-D built-in LAN, which I can't seem to find any cases of it being run on any installation. I'm open to any suggestion that will allow me to choose the best platform for our research. Cost of course is a factor but I will not buy cheap if it's going to prove a hassle in the future. Thank you for your time. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Good integrated Athlon chipset for FreeBSD
On Monday 13 January 2003 04:28, Adam Maas wrote: The nForce based boards would be your best bet. Good solid chipset with a decent video core. You should be able to find one that's less expensive than the Asus. Perhaps an MSI or Gigabyte. Gigabyte doesn't make nForce. I'm keen on the MSI but I'm unsure of the NIC support. Unlike Asus which uses the clunky RTL8139 chipset, the MSI sticks with Nvidia original design, that is using the ones integrated into the MCP. I couldn't find any listing of it in the Hardware section so I'm assuming that it's unsupported. I'm not keen on an add on NIC, if the NIC was integrated, might as well take advantage of it. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Dual Athlon MX install.
I'm looking for informations on installing FreeBSD on a dual Athlon MX machine. It's to be a research machine so will run intensive code -- NS and other modeling tools. I'm looking at things like: Which of 4.7, -STABLE, -CURRENT should I use? What are the things I need to keep in mind while installing? What are the pitfalls that I may fall into? Any advice? Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=*=- www.kierun.org PGP: 009D 7287 C4A7 FD4F 1680 06E4 F751 7006 9DE2 6318 IRC: nick kierun, server spod.uk.amiganet.org, channel #sanctus NNGS: nick kierun, server nngs.cosmic.org, port 9696. msg11757/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Athlon motherboard for 5.0?
On Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:01 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote I'm running 5.0-DP2 on an Asus motherboard with the Apollo KT133 chipset. The chipset is notoriously buggy, according to the folks on -current, and I've been having trouble with the USB and ATA controllers -- though it's intermittent and hard to reproduce. I've stumbled across a new 1.4Ghz Athlon Thunderbird chip, which doesn't work in my older motherboard. So, I'm in the market for a mobo. It's for a workstation, and integrated graphics and sound are not desired. It'd be nice if it took PC133 SDRAM, since I have 768MB here, but DDR is okay if necessary. But most importantly, everything on the motherboard needs to have good support in 5.0. Support in 4-stable is nice, but hardly a requirement. If this means sticking with an older, more conservative chipset, and sacrificing things like USB 2.0, Firewire, or fast AGP, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm not a gamer or a video producer; my motherboard is used solely to connect my CPU to RAM and cards. :-) Suggestions? Don't know about 5.0. I am currently running 4.7-RELEASE on an ASUS A7V333 with a 850 MHz Athlon TBird. Have had no problems so far with audio/video/LAN... There were some problems with the chipset when I was using 4.5-RELEASE, but i think they were fixed in 4.7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon motherboard for 5.0?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:17:41AM +0530, Gautham Ganapathy wrote: On Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:01 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote I'm running 5.0-DP2 on an Asus motherboard with the Apollo KT133 chipset. The chipset is notoriously buggy, according to the folks on -current, and I've been having trouble with the USB and ATA controllers -- though it's intermittent and hard to reproduce. I've stumbled across a new 1.4Ghz Athlon Thunderbird chip, which doesn't work in my older motherboard. So, I'm in the market for a mobo. It's for a workstation, and integrated graphics and sound are not desired. It'd be nice if it took PC133 SDRAM, since I have 768MB here, but DDR is okay if necessary. But most importantly, everything on the motherboard needs to have good support in 5.0. Support in 4-stable is nice, but hardly a requirement. If this means sticking with an older, more conservative chipset, and sacrificing things like USB 2.0, Firewire, or fast AGP, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm not a gamer or a video producer; my motherboard is used solely to connect my CPU to RAM and cards. :-) Suggestions? Don't know about 5.0. I am currently running 4.7-RELEASE on an ASUS A7V333 with a 850 MHz Athlon TBird. Have had no problems so far with audio/video/LAN... There were some problems with the chipset when I was using 4.5-RELEASE, but i think they were fixed in 4.7 I have a machine built around the A7V333-X using An Athlon 2000+XP. It came with onboard sound and Lan (which is not why I bought it). The sound works fine, the LAN not (but that does not worry me too much), It works fine otherwise. I had some initial problems due to the fact I made the mistake of building the machine on the floor instead of an a table while sitting in a comfy chair, this caused me to read some jumper settings the wrong way around .. *sigh*. I use DDR333 memory in it. The BIOS was a bit cranky at first, seeming to forget things..but that problem has gone away. Oh, the important part of your question .. 5.0 .. yes it runs on it. Although my testing has hardly been exhaustive yet, One of the problems I find with ASUS motherboards is that you get contradictory information on their web-site and in publicity blurb about what boards support what. In one place it would imply that my combination should not work well, in another place fine. I hesitate to recommend it, not because I have problems with it, but because for something like 5.0 you should probably get as many opinions as possible. Also 5.0 is quite new territory for me. Usually, since I now build my own network computers I do a test of installing FreeBSD, Linux and Windows on it. Apart from some issues I have questioned, but sadly received no reply about yet, concerning co-habitation of 4.7 and 5.0 on the same disk, and Linux moaning inconsequentially about not knowing what kind of South Bridge it had, Windows was by far and away the most problematic, Well I built it to eventually become a low traffic web/ftp server, so that is the way I am looking at it. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Athlon motherboard for 5.0?
I'd incorrectly posted this to -current earlier today, and was advised to repost here. However, as I'm not subscribed, I'd appreciate any responses CC'd to my address. :-) I'm running 5.0-DP2 on an Asus motherboard with the Apollo KT133 chipset. The chipset is notoriously buggy, according to the folks on -current, and I've been having trouble with the USB and ATA controllers -- though it's intermittent and hard to reproduce. I've stumbled across a new 1.4Ghz Athlon Thunderbird chip, which doesn't work in my older motherboard. So, I'm in the market for a mobo. It's for a workstation, and integrated graphics and sound are not desired. It'd be nice if it took PC133 SDRAM, since I have 768MB here, but DDR is okay if necessary. But most importantly, everything on the motherboard needs to have good support in 5.0. Support in 4-stable is nice, but hardly a requirement. If this means sticking with an older, more conservative chipset, and sacrificing things like USB 2.0, Firewire, or fast AGP, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm not a gamer or a video producer; my motherboard is used solely to connect my CPU to RAM and cards. :-) Suggestions? -Cliff L. Biffle To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
make builkernel error on Athlon
Hi All I'm busy compiling a custom kernel on a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ to setup sound. I am also upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE to STABLE. After cvsuping to the latest stable source I run buildworld which works fine but on my 'make buildkernel KERNCONF=ENIGMA' I get the following error: sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh ENIGMA cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x137f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13a5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13be): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x13ce): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x13e7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1431): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x143a): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x144d): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1468): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x151f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x153d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x157e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x159f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x15a7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x1913): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1925): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1a21): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1b28): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b39): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b53): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENIGMA. *** Error code 1 Any suggestions, help would be greatly appreciated. I have upgraded and built custom kernel's many times before without any problems on Intel platform but this is my first on an AMD machine. Any specific AMD kernel config's I should know about ? Kind Regards, Nelis To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: make builkernel error on Athlon
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 14:56, Nelis Lamprecht wrote: Hi All I'm busy compiling a custom kernel on a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ to setup It's not your hardware problem. You could post your kernel config. :) Bug probably resides there. sound. I am also upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE to STABLE. After cvsuping to the latest stable source I run buildworld which works fine but on my 'make [...skipped...] Also, there is a probability you've messed things up while cvsup'ing. You should remove all SCSI (CAM(4)) devices from kernel, and I bet it will compile. Regards, Sergey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: make builkernel error on Athlon
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:56:04 +0200 NL wrote: Hi All I'm busy compiling a custom kernel on a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ to setup sound. I am also upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE to STABLE. After cvsuping to the latest stable source I run buildworld which works fine but on my 'make buildkernel KERNCONF=ENIGMA' I get the following error: sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh ENIGMA cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x137f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13a5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13be): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x13ce): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x13e7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1431): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x143a): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x144d): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1468): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x151f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x153d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x157e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x159f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x15a7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x1913): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1925): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1a21): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1b28): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b39): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b53): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENIGMA. *** Error code 1 I had exactly the same problem. I was trying to build kernel using make buildkernel, make installkernel I have not the same hardware I solved that problem following cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf /usr/sbin/config NEW_KERNEL cd ../../compile/NEW_KERNEL make depend make make install An d I have a new kernel :) Any suggestions, help would be greatly appreciated. I have upgraded and built custom kernel's many times before without any problems on Intel platform but this is my first on an AMD machine. Any specific AMD kernel config's I should know about ? Kind Regards, Nelis To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message --- Iulian Romtelecom OM Network Operation IN Management Center To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: make builkernel error on Athlon
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:23:21PM +, iulian wrote: I had exactly the same problem. You are both ignoring the documentation in GENERIC that tells you which kernel option you are missing from your config file :) Kris msg10203/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD and Athlon XP
Dear All can i compile the FreeBSD kernel on Athlon XP processor Types ? and is freebsd compatible with it or not Thanx _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-10 15:43:36 -0700: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm looks like the solteks are fine. you might want to take DRV4 or DRV5. I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. i also wanted to buy asus when i was going for a new box, but during the research i found out that people were having trouble getting X up with some of the asus boards. X was essential since i was upgrading my desktop, so i went with abit KR7A (the no-raid version, VIA KT266A chipset), and i'm really happy with it. btw, there was a Athlon XP mobo test in the august issue of the czech Chip magazine, and they got the best numbers from a DFI AD76 RAID mobo. VIA KT333 chipset, Promise 20276, onboard sound (Realtek RTL8100). if i was buying a new mobo i would go for this one. (i have no experience with DFI mobos. maybe someone could chime in?) -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.7-RC 10:26AM up 23 days, 17:41, 21 users, load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.16 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, W. D. wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:31:16 -0500 From: W. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD At 17:43 10/10/2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin, wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ Have you found a HowTo on rolling your own rackmount? I'd love to see it. I've been considering one of these for my house: http://eracks.com/eRacks/products/config?sku=PREMIUM JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. The A-Open AK77Pro runs very nicel with 4.6.2. I'm using vinum in Raid 1 on it and it's greased lightning. A friend who owns an ISP is using it all over his plant also. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
At 08:18 10/11/2002, John Bleichert, wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, W. D. wrote: Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Have you found a HowTo on rolling your own rackmount? I'd love to see it. I've been considering one of these for my house: http://eracks.com/eRacks/products/config?sku=PREMIUM Nice! Here are some monsters that would be nice to have if they worked with FreeBSD: http://www.ApPro.com/1124.html http://www.DualAthlonServers.com/103multiview/ Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: Jim Durham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:04:33 + (GMT) Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. The A-Open AK77Pro runs very nicel with 4.6.2. I'm using vinum in Raid 1 on it and it's greased lightning. A friend who owns an ISP is using it all over his plant also. -Jim ** I noticed someone else in this thread replying that his A7A-133 worked OK. I have an ASUS A7V333 that works very nicely. Have you considered that it may just be XFree or video card problems and not the motherboard? Specifically, what problems are you having? Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? I just upgraded my FreeBSD system from an Abit KT7A-Raid to a MSI K7T266 Pro 2A board with an Athlon XP 1800+ (combo was $99 at Fry's a couple of weeks ago). This board will handle up to the 2600+ with the newer BIOS if I remember correctly. Smoothest upgrade I've ever done. No glitches, no bridge workarounds, no devices not found, nothing. Came up running the first time and is still there. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Kenneth Culver wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? If your motherboard isn't working, then most likely there is some bios configuration that could be tweaked to fix the problem. That said I'm using an abit kx7-333 with an athlon xp 2000+ and have absolutely no problems at all. Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. I don't know how well FreeBSD supports the acer chipsets, but I've had no trouble with my via-based chipset. Ken Agreed - my VIA chipset works fine. The board is an A7V-133: johnnyb:~ dmesg | grep -i via pcib2: VIA 8363 (Apollo KT133) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 isab0: VIA 82C686 PCI-ISA bridge at device 4.0 on pci0 atapci0: VIA 82C686 ATA100 controller port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 I haven't fiddled with the onboard RAID at all. HTH - JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
At 17:43 10/10/2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin, wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
I'll give a good nod to my current board, a Soyo SY-K7V Dragon Plus! VIA KT266A 100/133 FSB. It has onboard sound and LAN, but both are well supported, and can be put aside with a simple change under BIOS. It was a really good option for me, initially, because when I built this box, I was somewhat low on cash. The onboard stuff saved me a few $$$ early on, though i've since upgraded the sound card to a Soundblaster Live 5.1. It also has onboard RAID, and supports up to 3GB of PC2100 DDR-SDRAM. Very, very smooth little board, even with just 256MB. I haven't made use of the RAID yet, but from what I understand, it works just fine. Both the processor and mobo have come down quite a bit in price since I bought it, so you could probably get them cheaply from a place like newegg.com or directron.com...assuming you want something in the 1+ghz range. - erik On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:43:36 -0700 Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: /etc/make.conf and AMD Athlon 600
(10.07.2002 @ 2143 PST): Peter Leftwich said, in 0.8K:
I didn't have .../share/mk/ so I went out with google and downloaded
bsd.cpu.mk -- Wouldn't it be nice if mv had a flag to create directories
if they don't exist? Same with the command touch.
put this in your shell's rcfile:
mvm() {mkdir -p `dirname $2` mv $1 $2;}
seriously, peter, get a book on UNIX utilities. the o'reilly unix power
tools book is great.
-Adam
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Re: /etc/make.conf and AMD Athlon 600
On 6 Oct 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: PL My PC has an AMD Athlon 600, so in /etc/make.conf should I have i686 or k7? Find your answer (k7) in /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk I didn't have .../share/mk/ so I went out with google and downloaded bsd.cpu.mk -- Wouldn't it be nice if mv had a flag to create directories if they don't exist? Same with the command touch. I've been using k6-2 for my AMD pre-Athlon CPU for a year or so, with no known problems, but do read the warnings in /etc/defaults/make.conf about it. The default is i386. Defaults are made to be over-ridden and surpassed as HW allows. ;-) -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
/etc/make.conf and AMD Athlon 600
From `dmesg` I see the following: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (598.84-MHz 686-class CPU) My PC has an AMD Athlon 600, so in /etc/make.conf should I have i686 or k7? # Intel x86 architecture: # (AMD CPUs) k7 k6-2 k6 k5 # (Intel CPUs)p4 p3 p2 i686 i586/mmx i586 i486 i386 CPUTYPE=i686 -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
