Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

2011-11-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
from my previous message:

 Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs?

 If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get the SCSI device 
 n:n:n?  Use camcontrol?

 I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make a UFS/FFS or iso 
 file system, taking the place of mkisofs in cdrtools.  But NetBSD has no CD 
 or DVD burner in the base system.

 I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works.

At that stage I hadn't looked in the Makefile to see that cdrkit was not an 
option on FreeBSD 9.0 .

So far, I tried cdrecord and readcd only as root, so permissions ought not yet 
to be an issue.

amelia2# camcontrol devlist
WDC WD30EZRS-11J99B0 80.00A80at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0)
PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-L890SA 1.05at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,cd0)
WD My Book 1130 1012 at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da0)
WD SES Device 1012   at scbus7 target 0 lun 1 (pass3,ses0)
UFD USB Flash Drive 1100 at scbus8 target 0 lun 0 (da1,pass4)
Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP   at scbus9 target 0 lun 0 (da2,pass5)


amelia2# readcd dev=5,0,0 sectors=0-0 -
readcd: Device not ready.


I got same results after running kldload atapicam.  Also,
cdrecord -scanbus didn't work at all.

In Linux, beginning with kernel 2.6, cdrtools work with ATA or IDE CD or DVD 
burners without inserting a SCSI layer.

Maybe I need to build and install growisofs (sysutils/dvd+rw-tools)?

I have /dev/xpt0 even without kldload atapicam, also /dev/pass*.

cdrtools use dev=n1,n2,n3, which don't have to be all zero.

I had intended, and still intend, to build a Linux installation, may or may not 
bother with NetBSD.

I want to see what Linux can do that FreeBSD can't, how and if the device 
drivers are superior.

NetBSD has no USB 3.0 support now or in the foreseeable future, and otherwise 
doesn't like my hardware; 
I tried before installing FreeBSD.

Tom

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Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

2011-11-04 Thread Thomas Mueller
  I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a
  thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything
  (running cdrecord -scanbus):


  cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot 
  open or use SCSI driver.
  cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
  cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
  Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 
  1995-2010 J?rg Schilling


  Running cdrecord dev=help or cdrecord dev=HELP: did no better.
   
 Do you have permissions set properly? Maybe it still
 tries to access per ATAPICAM, which may be non-working
 just like acd - just a wild guess, I'm not using 9-RC
 here so I can't be more specific.
 
 
 
  I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA,
  not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux.  CD-RW
  drive there is ATAPI.
 
 I've been using cdrecord and cdrdao now since burncd
 stopped working for me somewhere in v5. For DVDs,
 growisofs should work.
 
 While cdrecord and cdrdao address th SCSI device
 by n:n:n, growisofs uses /dev/cdN.
 
 --
 Polytropon

After I failed to burn a CD in NetBSD (5.1_STABLE) on the older computer (i386) 
with cdrecord, I booted into FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE and was successful with 
burncd.  That drive was CD-RW, ATAPI, that computer has ATA but no SATA.

Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs?

If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get the SCSI device 
n:n:n?  Use camcontrol?

I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make a UFS/FFS or iso file 
system, taking the place of mkisofs in cdrtools.  But NetBSD has no CD or DVD 
burner in the base system.

I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works.

Tom

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Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

2011-11-04 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:13 + (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote:
 After I failed to burn a CD in NetBSD (5.1_STABLE) on the
 older computer (i386) with cdrecord, I booted into FreeBSD
 8.2 RELEASE and was successful with burncd.  That drive was
 CD-RW, ATAPI, that computer has ATA but no SATA.

Good to see that it's still supposed to work in 8.2. :-)



 Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs?

Haven't tested that, but it should also work for CD media
instead of DVD, just the size of the ISO data is limited
to the size of a CD.


 If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get
 the SCSI device n:n:n?  Use camcontrol?

Yes. You need to have the device ATAPICAM option in your
kernel (or the module for that functionality), then you can
do:

# camcontrol devlist
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N RL00at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0)
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0L30   at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1)
Generic Flash HS-CF 4.55 at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da0)
Generic Flash HS-MS/SD 4.55  at scbus3 target 0 lun 1 (pass3,da1)
Generic Flash HS-SM 4.55 at scbus3 target 0 lun 2 (pass4,da2)

The first two entries are optical drives, the first one
has recording capability. Device ID is 0:0:0, the
corresponding device files are /dev/pass0 and /dev/cd0,
_those_ are provided by ATAPICAM.

Programs like cdreord and cdrdao require the 0:0:0 device,
growisofs uses /dev/cd0.

Note that you need to set the _permissions_ for those
device files in order to use non-root access to them!
You also need access to /dev/xpt0 which belongs to the
artificial SCSI subsystem. :-)

You could, for example, make them owned root:operator,
permission 0660, and add your user to the operator
group.



 I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make
 a UFS/FFS or iso file system, taking the place of mkisofs
 in cdrtools.  But NetBSD has no CD or DVD burner in the
 base system.

I did always use mkisofs for preparing the ISO for a CD,
but you can include that step by piping. The growisofs
does this step implicitely, e. g.

% growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -r -J /path/to/files

This will run mkisofs - the flags -r and -J are explained
in man mkisofs.

For a pre-mastered ISO file,

% growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso

would do the job. This ISO file could have been created
by mkisofs, by k9copy, or even by dd. You can also use
this with VCD images, created by mkvcdfs, as far as I
remember.

By the way, I have symlinked /dev/dvd to /dev/cd0 so I
can access this more easily. :-)



 I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works.

Haven't tested this one yet, but it seems to conflict
with cdrtools, and according to the Makefile, it does
not run on v9. Sounds like it's work trying.


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Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

2011-11-03 Thread Thomas Mueller
What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on a SATA drive, 
/dev/cd0 ?

Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools?  Or cdrkit?

This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64.

I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a thread on burncd and 
SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything (running cdrecord -scanbus):


cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot 
open or use SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 
1995-2010 Jörg Schilling


Running cdrecord dev=help or cdrecord dev=HELP: did no better.

I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, not SATA) in 
NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux.  CD-RW drive there is ATAPI.

Tom

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Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

2011-11-03 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:16 + (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote:
 What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on
 a SATA drive, /dev/cd0 ?
 
 Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools?  Or cdrkit?
 
 This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64.

I can imagine that in 9.0 where acd is obsoleted by cd,
burncd will either be rewritten, or be useless. In that
case, using tools that work with old-fashioned and
now modern cd should work fine.



 I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a
 thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything
 (running cdrecord -scanbus):
 
 
 cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot 
 open or use SCSI driver.
 cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
 cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
 Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 
 1995-2010 Jörg Schilling
 
 
 Running cdrecord dev=help or cdrecord dev=HELP: did no better.

Do you have permissions set properly? Maybe it still
tries to access per ATAPICAM, which may be non-working
just like acd - just a wild guess, I'm not using 9-RC
here so I can't be more specific.



 I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA,
 not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux.  CD-RW
 drive there is ATAPI.

I've been using cdrecord and cdrdao now since burncd
stopped working for me somewhere in v5. For DVDs,
growisofs should work.

While cdrecord and cdrdao address th SCSI device
by n:n:n, growisofs uses /dev/cdN.



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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-17 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 03:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark Terribile 
materrib...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Thanks to Jerrymc and Polyoptron.  Things are working, sort of. 
 I'm using the atapicam/cdrecord solution.  But when I do a dd
 read to verify the write, the read ends on an I/O error rather
 than an EOF.  (I'm not sure that this problem is new.)  There
 is a very long delay between dd's report and the program end
 (delay on close?)  And sometimes the eject command after the
 dd locks up and eventually fails.  There are plenty of console
 messages, including READ_BIG retrying, READ_BIG timed out,
 TEST_UNIT_READY freeing zombie taskqueue request, and PREVENT_ALLOW
 taskqueue timeout - compiing request directly . 

I start wondering if this may be due to a defective drive,
or wrong cable, or even through DMA incompatibilites...

Instead of using dd (have you made sure to use the correct
block size?) try using readcd (comes with cdrecord); see
man cdrecord for details and examples.



 This is definitely NOT reliable enough to put into a script
 (which would make handling the many file names more reliable).

True.



 cdrecord reports
 ---
 scsidev: '4,0,0'
 scsibus: 4 target: 0 lun: 0
 SCSI buffer size: 64512
 Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 103874560/103874560 (50720 sectors).
 Writing  time:   41.290s
 Average write speed  20.8x.

Try to force a lower value, maybe drive and discs are not compatible.
With -speed 8 it should be slow enough and fast enough for a test.
You can use -prcap to find out what the drive tells cdrecord about
itself.



 I would be grateful for any clues about what is still wrong here.

I'd slowly expect a defective drive...



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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-17 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 03:28 am, Mark Terribile wrote:
 Hi,

 I have several systems, one on 5.4 and two on 7.2 .  I keep
 the 5.4 system because every time I upgrade something breaks
 and cannot be fixed without (apparently) weeks of effort.  I
 *am* trying to get off it.

 Now: my 5.4 system is down until I replace some hardware.  In
 the meantime I need to burn about forty data CDs.  I've been
 using burncd on 5.4 but when I try it on 7.2 the drive and
 process lock up during the fixate step.  Clearing them
 requires a reboot.

 Does anyone have advice, pointers, etc.?  If you point me to
 pseudo-SCSI, please give me pointers to all parts of the
 solution, since the various man pages don't have proper links
 to each other.  (Hint to man page authors: the SEE ALSO
 entries are very important, and you must consider ALL levels,
 from other apps to the system calls used.)

I seem to recall having some difficulty when trying to burn CDs 
on a DVD capable drive using burncd.
Some incompatibility of burncd and the DVD drives. I suspect 
either the software or the drives have improved so that with
more modern components it works.

Meanwhile I believe I avoided the problem using atapicam and 
cdrecord.

But I don't recall needing to reboot.

(And it could have all been a dream?)

Malcolm


 Thank you for your help.

 Mark Terribile



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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Terribile

Polytropon,

  I'm using the atapicam/cdrecord solution.  But
  when I do a dd read to verify the write, the
  read ends on an I/O error rather
  than an EOF.  (I'm not sure that this problem is
  new.)  ...  There are plenty of console
  messages, including READ_BIG retrying, READ_BIG timed
  out, TEST_UNIT_READY freeing zombie taskqueue request,
  and PREVENT_ALLOW taskqueue timeout - compiing request
  directly . 

 I start wondering if this may be due to a defective drive,
 or wrong cable, or even through DMA incompatibilites...

I tried taking the drive out of the 5.4 machine.  No difference.

Also, the ATAPICAM subsystem gets into a state where the eject
program will report drive busy but cdrecord can still operate
the drive.  I think that in doing whatever was needed to
accomodate DVDs, the subsystem was broken.  It looks like cdrecord
manages to work around it.

 Instead of using dd (have you made sure to use the correct
 block size?) try using readcd (comes with cdrecord); see
 man cdrecord for details and examples.

I'll try it.  I am using the correct block size, and the data
retrieved cmp's correctly against the iso fs image used to
create the disk.  dd was means for exactly such purposes, and if
it can't work, the OS is doing a bad job.

  This is definitely NOT reliable enough to put into a
 script
  (which would make handling the many file names more
 reliable).

Under 5.4 I did this by script routinely.

Question is, under which category do I report this?

Mark Terribile



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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 07:24:46AM -0700, Mark Terribile wrote:

 
 Polytropon,
 
   I'm using the atapicam/cdrecord solution.  But
   when I do a dd read to verify the write, the
   read ends on an I/O error rather
   than an EOF.  (I'm not sure that this problem is
   new.)  ...  There are plenty of console
   messages, including READ_BIG retrying, READ_BIG timed
   out, TEST_UNIT_READY freeing zombie taskqueue request,
   and PREVENT_ALLOW taskqueue timeout - compiing request
   directly . 
 
  I start wondering if this may be due to a defective drive,
  or wrong cable, or even through DMA incompatibilites...
 
 I tried taking the drive out of the 5.4 machine.  No difference.
 
 Also, the ATAPICAM subsystem gets into a state where the eject
 program will report drive busy but cdrecord can still operate
 the drive.  I think that in doing whatever was needed to
 accomodate DVDs, the subsystem was broken.  It looks like cdrecord
 manages to work around it.


Well, the drive will be busy if any process/shell is cd-ed to any
directory on the device or any process/shell has any file on 
the device open, no matter what is being done to it.   Probably
you already know that, but it makes your statement above easily
a not-surprising situation.

jerry


 
  Instead of using dd (have you made sure to use the correct
  block size?) try using readcd (comes with cdrecord); see
  man cdrecord for details and examples.
 
 I'll try it.  I am using the correct block size, and the data
 retrieved cmp's correctly against the iso fs image used to
 create the disk.  dd was means for exactly such purposes, and if
 it can't work, the OS is doing a bad job.
 
   This is definitely NOT reliable enough to put into a
  script
   (which would make handling the many file names more
  reliable).
 
 Under 5.4 I did this by script routinely.
 
 Question is, under which category do I report this?
 
 Mark Terribile
 
 
   
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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-16 Thread Mark Terribile

Thanks to Jerrymc and Polyoptron.  Things are working, sort of.  I'm using the 
atapicam/cdrecord solution.  But when I do a dd read to verify the write, the 
read ends on an I/O error rather than an EOF.  (I'm not sure that this problem 
is new.)  There is a very long delay between dd's report and the program end 
(delay on close?)  And sometimes the eject command after the dd locks up and 
eventually fails.  There are plenty of console messages, including READ_BIG 
retrying, READ_BIG timed out, TEST_UNIT_READY freeing zombie taskqueue request, 
and PREVENT_ALLOW taskqueue timeout - compiing request directly .  This is 
definitely NOT reliable enough to put into a script (which would make handling 
the many file names more reliable).

cdrecord reports
---
scsidev: '4,0,0'
scsibus: 4 target: 0 lun: 0
SCSI buffer size: 64512
cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code.
cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD.
cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at 
ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.2) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg 
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
atapi: 0
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'ATAPI   '
Identifikation : 'DVD A  DH20A4H  '
Revision   : 'QP53'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: 0x0009
Profile: 0x002B 
Profile: 0x001B 
Profile: 0x001A 
Profile: 0x0016 
Profile: 0x0015 
Profile: 0x0014 
Profile: 0x0013 
Profile: 0x0012 
Profile: 0x0011 
Profile: 0x0010 
Profile: 0x000A 
Profile: 0x0009 (current)
Profile: 0x0008 
Profile: 0x0002 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 988416 = 965 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data99 MB
Total size:  113 MB (11:16.29) = 50722 sectors
Lout start:  114 MB (11:18/22) = 50722 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 4
  Is not unrestricted
  Is not erasable
  Disk sub type: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-) (6)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11567 (97:27/58)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 12
Manufacturer: Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 309127
Forcespeed is OFF.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 48 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 9 seconds.   8 
seconds.   7 seconds.   6 seconds.   5 
seconds.   4 seconds.   3 seconds.   2 
seconds.   1 seconds.   0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
Performing OPC...
Starting new track at sector: 0

Track 01:0 of   99 MB written.
Track 01:1 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]   2.7x.
Track 01:2 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  21.3x.
Track 01:3 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  22.1x.
Track 01:4 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  21.5x.
Track 01:5 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.3x.
Track 01:6 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  21.7x.
Track 01:7 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.5x.
Track 01:8 of   99 MB written (fifo  98%) [buf  98%]  21.9x.
Track 01:9 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  22.6x.
Track 01:   10 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  22.0x.
Track 01:   11 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  90%]  21.6x.
Track 01:   12 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.5x.
Track 01:   13 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.0x.
Track 01:   14 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.3x.
Track 01:   15 of   99 MB written (fifo  98%) [buf  99%]  23.1x.
Track 01:   16 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  22.5x.
Track 01:   17 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.2x.
Track 01:   18 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.6x.
Track 01:   19 of   99 MB written (fifo  98%) [buf  98%]  23.3x.
Track 01:   20 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.6x.
Track 01:   21 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.4x.
Track 01:   22 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.7x.
Track 01:   23 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.4x.
Track 01:   24 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  22.8x.
Track 01:   25 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  23.5x.
Track 01:   26 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  99%]  22.8x.
Track 01:   27 of   99 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  98%]  23.6x.
Track 01:   28 of   99 MB written (fifo  98%) [buf  

Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

I have several systems, one on 5.4 and two on 7.2 .  I keep the 5.4 system 
because every time I upgrade something breaks and cannot be fixed without 
(apparently) weeks of effort.  I *am* trying to get off it.

Now: my 5.4 system is down until I replace some hardware.  In the meantime I 
need to burn about forty data CDs.  I've been using burncd on 5.4 but when I 
try it on 7.2 the drive and process lock up during the fixate step.  Clearing 
them requires a reboot.

Does anyone have advice, pointers, etc.?  If you point me to pseudo-SCSI, 
please give me pointers to all parts of the solution, since the various man 
pages don't have proper links to each other.  (Hint to man page authors: the 
SEE ALSO entries are very important, and you must consider ALL levels, from 
other apps to the system calls used.)

Thank you for your help.

Mark Terribile


  
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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-15 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:58:22 -0700 (PDT), Mark Terribile 
materrib...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Does anyone have advice, pointers, etc.?  If you point me to
 pseudo-SCSI, please give me pointers to all parts of the solution,
 since the various man pages don't have proper links to each other. 

First of all, load the kernel module for ATAPICAM:

# kldload atapicam

You can also make this permanent by adding

atapicam_load=YES

to /boot/loader.conf. Of course, you can also recompile your kernel
with device atapicam added.

If the module is loaded successfully, see what SCSI equipment
will show up:

# camcontrol devlist
HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H58N 1.01 at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass0)

This is an example of how a ATAPI recorder shows up as a SCSI
device: it's the device 2:0:0, corresponding to /dev/cd0 and
/dev/pass0.

Unless you're burning CDs with root permissions, you need to make
sure your user will have proper writing access to the following
files, e. g. by using the group operator for your user:

own cd0 root:operator
permcd0 0664
own xpt0root:operator
permxpt00660
own pass0   root:operator
permpass0   0660

This is an example from /etc/devfs.conf. Make sure devfs is
restarted to reflect those changes. In the following example,
I just assume commands will be issued by root.

If you want to burn data CDs, I recommend using cdrecord.

In step 1, you prepare the ISO to be burned:

# cd /path/to/your/files/
# mkisofs -r -J -o /tmp/cd1.iso vol1/

Then you burn it:

# cdrecord dev=2,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data /tmp/cd1.iso

You can of course combine both steps:

# cd /path/to/your/files/
# mkisofs -r -J vol1/ | cdrecord dev=2,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao 
-data -

An addition: I have setup an alias for burning data CDs in ~/.cshrc
for less typing:

alias burndata 'cdrecord dev=2,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data'

This makes it more easy to deal with existing ISO files, which often
is the way I go (instead of the combined method).




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Re: Burning CDs on FreeBSD 7.2

2010-06-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:58:22AM -0700, Mark Terribile wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I have several systems, one on 5.4 and two on 7.2 .  I keep the 5.4 system 
 because every time I upgrade something breaks and cannot be fixed without 
 (apparently) weeks of effort.  I *am* trying to get off it.
 
 Now: my 5.4 system is down until I replace some hardware.  In the meantime I 
 need to burn about forty data CDs.  I've been using burncd on 5.4 but when I 
 try it on 7.2 the drive and process lock up during the fixate step.  Clearing 
 them requires a reboot.
 
 Does anyone have advice, pointers, etc.?  If you point me to pseudo-SCSI, 
 please give me pointers to all parts of the solution, since the various man 
 pages don't have proper links to each other.  (Hint to man page authors: the 
 SEE ALSO entries are very important, and you must consider ALL levels, from 
 other apps to the system calls used.)

Here is the command string I use successfully to burn a dir of picture
files on FreeBSD 7.1 system.

/usr/sbin/burncd -f /dev/acd0c -s max data PIC2005-cdimage fixate

I don't remember what I did to create the PIC2005-cdimage file.

I was having trouble with the system trying to run the burner too fast
with I had a speed argument in the command line.  Without it, it
runs fast enough for the few I was making.

jerry 


 
 Thank you for your help.
 
 Mark Terribile
   
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Destroying CDs (Re: (no subject))

2009-12-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Modulok modu...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?

Not that I would trust, even if it existed.

Heavy duty office shredders do the job for me.
A blowtorch is more fun, though (and I actually own one).

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7.2 disc1 bootonly cds not recognized as bootable

2009-05-16 Thread Fbsd1
Running 7.1 and trying to do clean install of 7.2. Downloaded both disc1 
and bootonly iso files because the 7.2 release announcement says this.


Note: late in the testing cycle it was discovered some machines do not 
recognize


the i386 disc1 as bootable (they just fall through to booting off the 
next boot device).


All affected machines did see the other discs as bootable. If you have a 
machine


with that problem booting off either bootonly or livefs and then 
swapping in disc1


once sysinstall starts should work.

In my case I have the described booting problem with both disc1 and the 
bootonly disk.


Disc1 and bootonly cd are bootable on different computer so know they 
are good.


Dead in the water, Help

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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-10 Thread Joshua Isom


On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Polytropon wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:28:46 -0500, Akenner 
slackwarew...@comcast.net wrote:


In order to play an audio CD, you can utilize the cdcontrol command
included in the base system:

% cdcontrol play

Refer to man cdcontrol for further options and eventually how to
specify the CD device (if needed).




One thing that I don't think I've read but personally encountered.  
When using cdcontrol, it seems to tell the cd-rom drive to play the 
disc so it's not really done in software.  If the audio cable from the 
cd-rom drive is not connected to the motherboard you won't get sound.  
For the vast majority of users this is a non-issue, but it be confusing 
to figure out.


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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-10 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:39:17 -0600, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
 One thing that I don't think I've read but personally encountered.  
 When using cdcontrol, it seems to tell the cd-rom drive to play the 
 disc so it's not really done in software.  If the audio cable from the 
 cd-rom drive is not connected to the motherboard you won't get sound.  
 For the vast majority of users this is a non-issue, but it be confusing 
 to figure out.

Well, interesting you mentioned this. I have this audio cable installed
and after cdcontrol told the drive to play the audio CD, it is on the
CD audio channel of the sound card (and the mixer channel CD, of course).
I'm not sure how this is handled via the ATA cable where the CD drive
usually is connected, or the SATA calbe, if it's a newer drive. Or, to
make it more complicated, when the drive is a SCSI cable; I don't think
SCSI transmits audio data via the SCSI cable...

At least the drive should show the typical playing activity which can
be checked using a headphone on the drive's front connector (if it has
one).



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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-08 Thread Akenner

*snipped for polite cleanliness*

Thanks to everyone who took the time to help me out here. I think 
instead of playing CDs I'll just rip them, it seems a WHOLE lot easier, 
and of course, not having to worry about scratches is a plus ;)


I think one MAJOR problem I had yesterday when I was doing all this, was 
that I had been awake for about 27 hours...Which is more than most 
Windows boxes. I was trying to remember how to configure hardware 
because I'm basically spoiled by easy to configure OSs like BSD and 
Linux, that I literally couldn't remember how to configure stuff.


I think you guys can agree to that. Back in like 2000 even, which wasn't 
THAT long ago, I know for a fact Windows and Linux were both very 
different, and this wasFreeBSD 4.0? 2000 is a little spacial, it's 
when I bought my very first FreeBSD PowerPak with FreeBSD 4.0 on CD, the 
6 CD set of tools and things, and came with The Complete FreeBSD 3rd 
edition. Which I still read. Lehey is a great book writer.


I think one problem also, is the sheer number of albums I have. I ahve a 
LOT of CDs, and almost all of them currently have been ripped, and I 
keep two HDs in my Slackware FTP server (Which may be reinstalled with 
FreeBSD, which is one reason I was testing how I'd do certain things in 
BSD) and I have over 30 GBs of music in there. Some albums that are 
important to me, like my Misfits boxed set, Ramones Discography, and 
rare Acid Bath Demo stuff, and my complete set of Danzig work (All 
Misfits, Samhain boxed set, + all Danzig CDs) I have all ripped as both 
oggVorbis, 128 K MP3s, and 320 K MP3s (I use 128 for my I-Pod because I 
have a 1 GB model, can't afford the big ones) and 320 I use for my play 
lists on the computer so I get good sound, and oggorbis was because a 
while back Linux distros like SUSE couldn't give you MP3 from out of the 
box, because of the license thing, so I kept ogg for that. It's 
something that took a LONG time to do and I'll probably just continue on 
with ripping the rest of my CD collection and putting it all on my FTP 
server so that each machine I have can play music without all of them 
losing disk space.


Thanks again everyone!
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Playing audio CDs

2009-02-07 Thread Akenner
I've been searching on the net for like an hour trying to see how to 
play a CD on FreeBSD, and normally I'd have just tried mounting it, 
being from the Linux world, but when I first checked to be sure of the 
proper way, I found mostly info saying not to mount it at all.


So now I'm not sure what is the right way to do it. On two machines each 
having between 1 - 3 drives to play CDs from, I've tried just loading a 
CD player app and hitting play, but it doesn't find the CD, and on one 
machine there is only one drive so it can't be the wrong one.


None of the pages I found said it was OK to mount it, and so I'm a 
little confused how you play CDs, and I've used cdplay as root to make 
sure I had access since the one app said I couldn't access the CD drive, 
and nothing has happened.


How is the normal way of playing a regular audio CD in FreeBSD?

Thanks
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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-07 Thread Akenner

I found in the handbook that I could try this:

/sbin/mount /cdrom

I then saw this:

/dev/cd0: device not configured.

Apparently typing /sbin first made it give me a different error message, 
I'm just trying to find hwo to configure a drive now. would 
/stand/sysinstall work for this?

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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net writes:

 I've been searching on the net for like an hour trying to see how to
 play a CD on FreeBSD, and normally I'd have just tried mounting it,
 being from the Linux world, but when I first checked to be sure of the
 proper way, I found mostly info saying not to mount it at all.

 So now I'm not sure what is the right way to do it. On two machines
 each having between 1 - 3 drives to play CDs from, I've tried just
 loading a CD player app and hitting play, but it doesn't find the CD,
 and on one machine there is only one drive so it can't be the wrong
 one.

 None of the pages I found said it was OK to mount it, and so I'm a
 little confused how you play CDs, and I've used cdplay as root to make
 sure I had access since the one app said I couldn't access the CD
 drive, and nothing has happened.

 How is the normal way of playing a regular audio CD in FreeBSD?

See the entry in the FreeBSD FAQ titled Why can I not mount an audio CD?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#MOUNT-AUDIO-CD
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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:28:46 -0500, Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net wrote:
 I've been searching on the net for like an hour trying to see how to 
 play a CD on FreeBSD, and normally I'd have just tried mounting it, 
 ???
 being from the Linux world, but when I first checked to be sure of the 
 proper way, I found mostly info saying not to mount it at all.

What should it be good for mounting an audio CD? It doesn't have
an ISO-9660 file system on it.

In order to play an audio CD, you can utilize the cdcontrol command
included in the base system:

% cdcontrol play

Refer to man cdcontrol for further options and eventually how to
specify the CD device (if needed).



 So now I'm not sure what is the right way to do it. On two machines each 
 having between 1 - 3 drives to play CDs from, I've tried just loading a 
 CD player app and hitting play, but it doesn't find the CD, and on one 
 machine there is only one drive so it can't be the wrong one.

What does

% cdcontrol info

say about the media you're trying to play?



 None of the pages I found said it was OK to mount it, and so I'm a 
 little confused how you play CDs, and I've used cdplay as root to make 
 sure I had access since the one app said I couldn't access the CD drive, 
 and nothing has happened.

Permissions of the device file?

% ll /dev/acd0
crw-rw-r--  1 root  operator0, 105 Feb  7 22:32 /dev/acd0
 ^  ^  ^
These are important!



 How is the normal way of playing a regular audio CD in FreeBSD?

As I mentioned, cdcontrol is a very easy way to do this. Of course, there
are GUI tools that can be handy, e. g. xcd or whatever comes with KDE or
Gnome (if you use this).

Keep in mind that, according to FreeBSD's permission concept, you need
the +r permission on the device file (see /etc/devfs.conf, /etc/devfs.rules).
If you have more than one drive, you can set variables like CDROM to get
rid of things like -f /dev/acd[012].



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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:35:56 -0500, Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net wrote:
 I found in the handbook that I could try this:
 
 /sbin/mount /cdrom
 
 I then saw this:
 
 /dev/cd0: device not configured.

This refers to the fact that the device does not contain an ISO-9660
formatted media.



 Apparently typing /sbin first made it give me a different error message, 
 I'm just trying to find hwo to configure a drive now. would 
 /stand/sysinstall work for this?

No.

The device is configured via the /etc/fstab file that controls how to
mount the disc, e. g.

# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
# ---   -   --  -   -   
-
/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0

This will expand your command

% mount /cdrom

to something like

% mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0 /cdrom

Also, keep in mind the permissions: You need +r for the device, and you
have to be the owner of the mount target directory. Furthermore, users
must be allowed to mount media which is controlled by the setting

vfs.usermount=1

that is to be put into /etc/sysctl.conf.



But as I mentioned before, you cannot mount an audio CD; imagine that
it's technically impossible. :-)

(Of course, this says nothing about that you cannot copy audio tracks,
convert them into OGG/Vorbis or duplicate discs 1:1, which is ALL
possible.)



A final note: I see you're using /dev/cd0 for your CD drive. What about
using acd0 instead (if it's an ATAPI drive)? You can specify /dev/cd0
as $CDROM if you've got a SCSI device, but then, due to permissions,
I think you need to set proper access rules for the xpt device, too.


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boot-only?which cds?reprobing network devices during setup? (my minor experience/complaints today..)

2008-12-19 Thread Jay

AMD64/7.1RC1
 
I couldn't find documentation as to what the boot only CDs are.
So I tried it. Now I know. They boot, start setup, and then must get the  
setup source from the network (or perhaps swap CDs).
 
My machine's onboard ethernet controller is apparently not supported,or not 
quite working. It was working fine from Linux.It is a Sun machine with onboard 
nVidia ethernet.
So I connected a USB to ethernet adapter.It works.But I had to reboot the 
computer.It would a little nice if setup would re-probe devices.
Also, when you boot the boot only CD, and say to use the CDfor the install 
source, it errors, repeatedly, for every package.You have to know to push 
control-c.
I also don't see information as to what is on CD1 vs. 2 vs 3.
 
In the visual fdisk, I deleted a partition, then tried undo,
it said it couldn't, that it had commited/written already. I later restarted
setup and the deleted partition was back. It seems its understanding
of what has been written is wrong.
 
(I ran FreeBSD a bunch years ago, around 3.x, but stopped
once I found pulling out a USB device paniced.
Ready to give it another try..well, for some porting work..)
 
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Re: boot-only?which cds?reprobing network devices during setup? (my minor experience/complaints today..)

2008-12-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar


AMD64/7.1RC1

I couldn't find documentation as to what the boot only CDs are.
So I tried it. Now I know. They boot, start setup, and then must get the  setup 
source from the network (or perhaps swap CDs).

My machine's onboard ethernet controller is apparently not supported,or not 
quite working. It was working fine from Linux.It is a Sun machine with onboard 
nVidia ethernet.


well nvidia ethernet chips are well... specific.
some works SOMEHOW, some not at all.

mine works about 1 minute after starting, then it stops ;) (nve driver)




So I connected a USB to ethernet adapter.It works.But I had to reboot the 
computer.It would a little nice if setup would re-probe devices.


exit just setup and get back. kernel do autoattach, just setup scans 
devices once.

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USB audio CDs?

2008-07-21 Thread Omar Siddique
I have a USB DVD-RW drive that I'd like to use to rip music under 
6.3-RELEASE, but I don't have a /dev/acd0 (and can't get grip to work 
from /dev/cd0).  /dev/cd0 shows up fine, but audio CDs log errors and 
grip (from ports) can't do much with /dev/cd0.  grip is able to see the 
disc table of contents for the CD, but attempting to rip only generates 
errors:

006: Could not read any data from drive
(repeats per track)

Repeatable for different CDs.  I was able to mount a cd9660 disc from this 
drive without a problem.


I've previously done this (using grip) with ATA/SATA optical drives of 
various sorts, as well as used various USB mass-storage devices without 
any problems, but this is my first shot under *BSD at getting audio off a 
USB optical drive.


I read through the USB related man pages, FB handbook, and googled without 
finding any answers...  Would appreciate any advice!


I have all of these in my running kernel:
device  uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface
device  ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface
device  ehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0)
device  usb # USB Bus (required)
device  ugen# Generic
device  umass   # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device  cd  # scsi cd for cd-r/burner on USB
device  atapicam

I tried it both w/ and w/o atapicam.

Attaching device with audio CD loaded logs the following:
Jul 20 01:28:20 mine kernel: umass0: Sony DRX-500UL, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: SONY DVD RW DRU-500A 2.0h Removable CD-ROM 
SCSI-0 device
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: cd present [198012 x 2048 byte records]
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 
0 0 0 2 0
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status 
Error
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check 
Condition
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Illegal mode for this track
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 3 5 
7b 0 0 1 0
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status 
Error
Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check 
Condition
(etc...)

Thanks!
-omar
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Unable to write any audio CDs with the current 7.0 (both burncd and cdrecord)

2008-02-12 Thread Yuri

Hi,

Anybody able to write audio CDs with the current 7.0?

I have Pioneer DVDR-112D/1.21 drive.
Burncd breaks for a long while: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/118207

So I used cdrecord from cdrtools-2.01_6 which worked well.
Now command 'cdrecord -v -dao -force dev=1,0,0 speed=4 
driveropts=burnfree *.cdr' finishes but produces unplayable CD.


I tried the older SONY drive and cdrecord produced unreadable CD with it 
too.


Yuri

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FreeBSD CDs don't boot with my Sony Vaio BGN-BX397XP

2008-01-17 Thread Philippe Nenert
Hello, 

I'have a Sony Vaio BGN-BX397XP.
I'have Windows XP and Mandriva installed, but I want use FreeBSD.
I cant boot with any CD, the system displays rapidly lines on the screen 
incomprehensible, I have a picture for that.

I'have test 6.2, 6.3 and 7.0 beta 4 CDs
 
You can see on back the model SONY PCG-9X1M.
You can have a description of my computer on Sony web site : 
http://support.vaio.sony.co.uk/login/login.asp?site=voe_en_GB_cons
Product Code : 28245051
Serial Number : 5000578

Thank you for your ideas, Philippe
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Pioneer DVR-112D/1.21 refuses to write CDs, only writes DVDs

2007-11-17 Thread Yuri
I bought the new DVD writer -- Pioneer DVR-112D.

But every time I try to write data CD or audio CD it gives Input/Output error.

It can read CDs and write and read DVDs no problem.

Anybody else has this problem? What is the solution?

I know I should submit PR to the bug database but since PRs are processed so
slowly I decided to ask here first.

acd0: DVDR PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D/1.21 at ata0-master UDMA66
cd0: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D 1.21 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
I use FreeBSD-6.3-PRERELEASE.

I had Sony DVD writer before, it wrote CDs on the same system w/out problems.

Yuri
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Re: Pioneer DVR-112D/1.21 refuses to write CDs, only writes DVDs

2007-11-17 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 20:26 -0800, Yuri wrote:
 I bought the new DVD writer -- Pioneer DVR-112D.
 
 But every time I try to write data CD or audio CD it gives Input/Output error.
 
 It can read CDs and write and read DVDs no problem.
 
 Anybody else has this problem? What is the solution?


Are you using burncd(1) or ports/sysutils/cdrtools ?

Are you getting DMA errors to kernel msgbuf or simple 1-line I/O
error?  

~BAS

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Re: Pioneer DVR-112D/1.21 refuses to write CDs, only writes DVDs

2007-11-17 Thread Yuri

 Are you using burncd(1) or ports/sysutils/cdrtools ?
 
 Are you getting DMA errors to kernel msgbuf or simple 1-line I/O
 error?  

I am using burncd.
There is only one-line I/O error.
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Re: Pioneer DVR-112D/1.21 refuses to write CDs, only writes DVDs

2007-11-17 Thread Brian A. Seklecki


Normally that means that the drive is not ready to burn (Door not closed, 
or media not ready).  Its possible that the driver is sensing that data 
wrong from the hardware, too.


You only have the one drive in the system?  No possible /dev/ confusion?

Try cdrtools (Good luck with the syntax)

~BAS

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Yuri wrote:




Are you using burncd(1) or ports/sysutils/cdrtools ?

Are you getting DMA errors to kernel msgbuf or simple 1-line I/O
error?


I am using burncd.
There is only one-line I/O error.



l8*
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Re: Pioneer DVR-112D/1.21 refuses to write CDs, only writes DVDs

2007-11-17 Thread Yuri
Quoting Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Normally that means that the drive is not ready to burn (Door not closed, 
 or media not ready).  Its possible that the driver is sensing that data 
 wrong from the hardware, too.
 
 You only have the one drive in the system?  No possible /dev/ confusion?
 
 Try cdrtools (Good luck with the syntax)
 

No, door is closed and there is only one device.
Actually cdrecord works ok. So I guess this is is some bug with burncd.
burncd is obsolete anyway.

It's wrong that handbook still recommends to use cdrecord on ATAPI cd-writer.

Yuri
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Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-09-06 Thread luizbcampos
 I followed your instruction...one more disk to the trash! Thanks

On 9/5/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:50:21PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Sirs
 
 
 Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-Ramd64.
  I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs by
  using cdrecord? I've already read man cdrecord but the question is not
  clearer.

 Better not use 6.1. 6.2 has been out for some time now.

 The following works for me;

 1) Make sure that the CD/DVD rewriter is controlled as a SCSI device
 instead of an ATAPI device. Build a kernel with the following devices:

 # ATA and ATAPI devices
 # Do _not_ include the atapicd driver!
 device  ata
 device  atadisk # ATA disk srives
 device  ataraid # RAID drives
 # The atapicam device is not included in the GENERIC amd64 kernel!
 device  atapicam# Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM
 options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

 # SCSI peripherals
 device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
 device  cd  # Compact Disc
 device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
 device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

 2) Set the device permissions correctly

 # Give members of group cdrom access to the CD/DVD-ROM and DVD+RW via the
 # SCSI interface
 own xpt0root:cdrom
 permxpt00660
 own cd0 root:cdrom
 permcd0 0660
 own cd1 root:cdrom
 permcd1 0660
 linkcd1 cdrom
 linkcd1 dvd

 My user-id is part of the cdrom group.

 3) Use 'cdrecord -scanbus' to determine which device to use;
 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a11 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C)
 1995-2006 Jörg Schilling
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
 scsibus1:
 1,0,0   100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-ROM
 1,1,0   101) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR   PX-716A  ' '1.08' Removable CD-ROM

 So I'm using 1,1,0.

 4) Burn the image;

 cdrecord -v -eject -dao speed=32 driveropts=burnfree dev=1,1,0 -pad \
 -data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

 HTH,

 Roland
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Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-09-06 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 01:50:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64.
 I've lost five of them...

How do you determine they're broken? Like which error messages you get with 
what command, that makes you decide to trash them.

 and the question is how to make bootable CDs by 
 using cdrecord? I've already read man cdrecord but the question is not
 clearer.

Cdrecord (or burncd for that matter) doesn't know what bootable cd-roms are. 
The iso file determines if they're bootable or not. Cdrecord/burncd just 
tells the cd writer what bytes to burn in which sectors.

man mkisofs should tell you about making an iso file bootable.
-- 
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Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-09-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:50:21PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Sirs
 
 
Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64.
 I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs by
 using cdrecord? I've already read man cdrecord but the question is not
 clearer.

Better not use 6.1. 6.2 has been out for some time now.

The following works for me;

1) Make sure that the CD/DVD rewriter is controlled as a SCSI device
instead of an ATAPI device. Build a kernel with the following devices:

# ATA and ATAPI devices
# Do _not_ include the atapicd driver!
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk srives
device  ataraid # RAID drives
# The atapicam device is not included in the GENERIC amd64 kernel!
device  atapicam# Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM
options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

# SCSI peripherals
device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device  cd  # Compact Disc
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

2) Set the device permissions correctly

# Give members of group cdrom access to the CD/DVD-ROM and DVD+RW via the
# SCSI interface
own xpt0root:cdrom
permxpt00660
own cd0 root:cdrom
permcd0 0660
own cd1 root:cdrom
permcd1 0660
linkcd1 cdrom
linkcd1 dvd

My user-id is part of the cdrom group.

3) Use 'cdrecord -scanbus' to determine which device to use;
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a11 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C) 
1995-2006 Jörg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-ROM
1,1,0   101) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR   PX-716A  ' '1.08' Removable CD-ROM

So I'm using 1,1,0.

4) Burn the image;

cdrecord -v -eject -dao speed=32 driveropts=burnfree dev=1,1,0 -pad \
-data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 

HTH,

Roland
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bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-09-04 Thread luizbcampos
   Dear Sirs


   Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64.
I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs by
using cdrecord? I've already read man cdrecord but the question is not
clearer.


   Regards

   Luiz
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-27 Thread Vince
Sam Lawrance wrote:
 
 On 27/07/2007, at 12:35 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 
 --On July 26, 2007 5:59:01 PM -0500 Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
 knows about SCSI.

 So why does it show the first cd, which is also ide?
 
 The device listed by camcontrol seems to be an external hard drive.
 
 That said, I think it's possible for camcontrol to talk to IDE devices
 via atapicam.

according to
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html
if you dont want to use burncd for burning CDROMSs you need to use
atapicam (section 18.6.9)

either kldload atapicam
or
add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf file:

atapicam_load=YES

then, reboot your machine.

As root, you can run the following command to get the SCSI address of
the burner:

# camcontrol devlist

This didnt work for me last time I tried for some reason but I usually
just use burncd anyway.

Vince
 
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-27 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On Friday, July 27, 2007 13:53:19 +0100 Vince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sam Lawrance wrote:


On 27/07/2007, at 12:35 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:


--On July 26, 2007 5:59:01 PM -0500 Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.


So why does it show the first cd, which is also ide?


The device listed by camcontrol seems to be an external hard drive.

That said, I think it's possible for camcontrol to talk to IDE devices
via atapicam.


according to
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.ht
ml if you dont want to use burncd for burning CDROMSs you need to use
atapicam (section 18.6.9)

either kldload atapicam
or
add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf file:

atapicam_load=YES


That did the trick.  Thanks.

camcontrol devlist
Maxtor 3200 0344 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0)
USB 2.0 Flash Disk 1100  at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,da1)
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0D20   at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,cd0)
TSSTcorp CD-RW   TS-H292B DE03   at scbus2 target 1 lun 0 (pass3,cd1)

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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-27 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, July 27, 2007 04:54:18 + Pollywog 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Friday 27 July 2007 02:38:31 Paul Schmehl wrote:

--On July 27, 2007 2:07:47 AM + Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:
 I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had
 the  info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in
 order to  use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It
 won't work if  the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is
 in Linux, but it  works.

Thanks a lot.  You've made me feel like a complete idiot.  :-)

I'll try it tomorrow, but I'm pretty certain that is precisely what my
problem was.  The fact that I didn't think of it is rather embarrassing.



Well don't feel that way yet because I might be wrong and it might be
something else that is causing the problem you are having.   :)


Turns out that wasn't the solution.  I had to kldload atapicam for it to 
work.  Thanks, though.  You reminded me to never forget the simple things.


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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-27 Thread Sam Lawrance


On 27/07/2007, at 12:35 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

--On July 26, 2007 5:59:01 PM -0500 Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.


So why does it show the first cd, which is also ide?


The device listed by camcontrol seems to be an external hard drive.

That said, I think it's possible for camcontrol to talk to IDE  
devices via atapicam.


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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-27 Thread Andriy Babiy
 I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had the 
 info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in order to 
 use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It won't work if 
 the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in Linux, but it 
 works.

Have you read the k3b pkg-message? You can find it in k3b port directory.
It contains detailed step-by-step instructions about how to allow a 
non-privileged user to mount what they need. It works just fine.

Andriy
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On July 27, 2007 2:07:47 AM + Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had
the  info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in
order to  use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It
won't work if  the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in
Linux, but it  works.


Thanks a lot.  You've made me feel like a complete idiot.  :-)

I'll try it tomorrow, but I'm pretty certain that is precisely what my 
problem was.  The fact that I didn't think of it is rather embarrassing.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Josh Paetzel
Paul Schmehl wrote:
 Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
 
 uname -v
 FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Wed Feb 14 12:22:36 UTC 2007 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 
 grep cd /var/run/dmesg.boot
 acd0: DVDROM HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0D20 at ata0-master UDMA33
 acd1: CDRW TSSTcorpCD-RW TS-H292B/DE03 at ata0-slave UDMA33
 
 camcontrol devlist
 Maxtor 3200 0344 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)
 
 camcontrol inquiry 0:0:0
 pass0: Maxtor 3200 0344 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
 pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
 pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 
 camcontrol inquiry 0:1:0
 camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 0:1:0
 
 camcontrol inquiry da0
 pass0: Maxtor 3200 0344 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
 pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
 pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 
 camcontrol inquiry da1
 camcontrol: cam_lookup_pass: CAMGETPASSTHRU ioctl failed
 cam_lookup_pass: No such file or directory
 cam_lookup_pass: either the pass driver isn't in your kernel
 cam_lookup_pass: or da1 doesn't exist
 
 ls /dev/acd*
 /dev/acd0   /dev/acd1
 
 cdcontrol -f /dev/acd1
 Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
 Type `?' for command list
 
 cdcontrol eject
 cdcontrol close
 cdcontrol info
 cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error
 cdcontrol: Input/output error
 
 burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data 
 /home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate
 burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error
 
 What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the kernel 
 knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can see, 
 camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and close the 
 drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?
 
 -- 
 Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.

It's hard to see without the propmpts, but are you trying to use
burncd as root?  A normal user isn't going to have the neccessary
privs. to write a cd by default.

cdcontrol is simply telling you it can't read the TOC of the cd in the
drive, presumably because there's no cd in it.  I haven't used
cdcontrol in ages, but it's possible it needs root (in the case that
you were using it as a normal user with a disk in the drive)

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Bruce Caruthers

On Thu Jul 26, 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

[...]

 burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data
 /home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate
 burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error

 What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the
 kernel knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can
 see, camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and
 close the drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?


Well, I'm using 6.2-RELEASE/amd64, and I get those same
Input/ouput error messages.  However, the discs I have
burned all worked fine, so I've assumed it was just
something the program tries to test for or request info
on, but can continue without.

Have you checked whether the burned discs actually work?

Cheers,
   -bkc
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On July 26, 2007 2:34:23 PM -0700 Bruce Caruthers 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, I'm using 6.2-RELEASE/amd64, and I get those same
Input/ouput error messages.  However, the discs I have
burned all worked fine, so I've assumed it was just
something the program tries to test for or request info
on, but can continue without.

Have you checked whether the burned discs actually work?

They're not being burned at all.  After the ioctl error message, the 
program returns to the prompt.


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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On July 26, 2007 5:59:01 PM -0500 Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.


So why does it show the first cd, which is also ide?


It's hard to see without the propmpts, but are you trying to use
burncd as root?  A normal user isn't going to have the neccessary
privs. to write a cd by default.


Yes.  All the commands were typed as root.


cdcontrol is simply telling you it can't read the TOC of the cd in the
drive, presumably because there's no cd in it.


There was a cd in the drive - a blank one I was trying to write to.


 I haven't used
cdcontrol in ages, but it's possible it needs root (in the case that
you were using it as a normal user with a disk in the drive)


All commands were typed as root.

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Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Schmehl

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

uname -v
FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Wed Feb 14 12:22:36 UTC 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC


grep cd /var/run/dmesg.boot
acd0: DVDROM HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0D20 at ata0-master UDMA33
acd1: CDRW TSSTcorpCD-RW TS-H292B/DE03 at ata0-slave UDMA33

camcontrol devlist
Maxtor 3200 0344 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)

camcontrol inquiry 0:0:0
pass0: Maxtor 3200 0344 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers

camcontrol inquiry 0:1:0
camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 0:1:0

camcontrol inquiry da0
pass0: Maxtor 3200 0344 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers

camcontrol inquiry da1
camcontrol: cam_lookup_pass: CAMGETPASSTHRU ioctl failed
cam_lookup_pass: No such file or directory
cam_lookup_pass: either the pass driver isn't in your kernel
cam_lookup_pass: or da1 doesn't exist

ls /dev/acd*
/dev/acd0   /dev/acd1

cdcontrol -f /dev/acd1
Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
Type `?' for command list

cdcontrol eject
cdcontrol close
cdcontrol info
cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error
cdcontrol: Input/output error

burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data 
/home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate

burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error

What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the 
kernel knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can 
see, camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and 
close the drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?


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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 27 July 2007 02:38:31 Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On July 27, 2007 2:07:47 AM + Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had
  the  info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in
  order to  use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It
  won't work if  the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in
  Linux, but it  works.

 Thanks a lot.  You've made me feel like a complete idiot.  :-)

 I'll try it tomorrow, but I'm pretty certain that is precisely what my
 problem was.  The fact that I didn't think of it is rather embarrassing.


Well don't feel that way yet because I might be wrong and it might be 
something else that is causing the problem you are having.   :)
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Re: Can't burn cds

2007-07-26 Thread Pollywog


I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had the 
info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in order to 
use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It won't work if 
the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in Linux, but it 
works.

The pertinent sections of my fstab:

/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
/dev/cd0  /usr/home/pollywog/cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto,nodev,nosuid  0  0

I also had to add myself (my username) to the operator group.  To make it more 
convenient, I added an alias in my ~/.bash_aliases:

alias mountcd='mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 ~/cdrom'
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-27 Thread Bram Schoenmakers
Op dinsdag 27 maart 2007, schreef stefan broos:
 I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to
 get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?

 Stefan
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There's a Dutch webshop [1] providing all kinds of Linux distributions and 
FreeBSD on CD. The website tells me he has 6.1 available, but I'd assume 6.2 
should be available as well if you contact the shop owner. I have good 
experience with the shop (and the owner is a good fellow :)

[1] http://www.munnikes.nl

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sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread stefan broos
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Stefan
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 26, 2007, at 3:25 PM, stefan broos wrote:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible  
to get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Have fun.  You're welcome to download and burn the FreeBSD ISO images  
yourself:


  http://www.freebsd.org/where.html

You probably want to grab the 6.2 x86 image

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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Derek Ragona

You can download the ISO images and make all you want.

-Derek


At 05:25 PM 3/26/2007, stefan broos wrote:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to get 
some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Stefan
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread John Levine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?

Sure.  Just download the ISO image and burn all the CDs you want.

R's,
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Kelly D. Grills
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:25:15AM +0200, stefan broos wrote:
 
 I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
 get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?
 
 Stefan

As others have noted, you can download and burn the ISO's.
Another option is a live CD, such as FreeSBIE.
See http://www.freesbie.org for all the details.

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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:25:15AM +0200, stefan broos wrote:

 I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
 get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?

You are welcome to make your own.  It is legal.   Specifically, download 
the disc2 ISO and burn it to a CD.   That one has both the installation 
system and also a 'fixit' version that contains most of a basic FreeBSD 
system that you can run from the CD and memory.

Just make sure you burn it as a straight image to the CD and don't use
any parameters that attempt to convert it in any way.   The file you
download is already converted to an ISO and ready to burn as is.

Note, though that FreeBSD is its own UNIX and not Linux.   Its history
actually reaches back farther than Linux.

jerry

 
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Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread ograbme
Hello Frank,

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote:

snip

FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:

FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz

FS (warning! 35MB compressed)

Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box.  Need to set
up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process.  Also,
need to figure out how USB gets set up properly.  But these are two
separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near
future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these
areas.

FS and:

FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
FS # cd /usr/ports
FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz

FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
FS sudo:

FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo

FS if there's nothing then:

FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
FS # make install clean

Thanks for the detailed steps.

FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
FS portsnap or cvsup.

Will do.

 
 P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
 replying.  I did a reply all ...
 snip
 

FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.

Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as
I am a newbie here. ;)

FS Welcome to FreeBSD!

Thanks.  Appreciate it, Frank.

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:30:43PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote:
   ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
   does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
   CD.
 
  That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
  complete, as in: not all the ports are there.
 
 Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
 collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
 on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
 and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
 their inclusion.)

Because since the release CD was cut, the porters have been tirelessly
porting new software and updating existing software - the ports tree is
pretty much in a constant state of growth and development.  As soon as 
the release is cut, the included ports tree is out of date.

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-13 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 08:19:22AM -0400, ograbme wrote:

 Hello Frank,
 
 Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote:
 
 snip
 
 FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:
 
 FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz
 
 FS (warning! 35MB compressed)
 
 Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box.  Need to set
 up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process.  Also,
 need to figure out how USB gets set up properly.  But these are two
 separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near
 future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these
 areas.

I didn't realise you didn't have a network connection yet!

For usb, you need:

usbd_enable=YES

in /etc/rc.conf

The handbook is your best bet to get your network connection going.
Any problems, just post here.

 
 FS and:
 
 FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
 FS # cd /usr/ports
 FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz
 
 FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
 FS sudo:
 
 FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo
 
 FS if there's nothing then:
 
 FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
 FS # make install clean
 
 Thanks for the detailed steps.
 
 FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
 FS portsnap or cvsup.
 
 Will do.
 
  
  P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
  replying.  I did a reply all ...
  snip
  
 
 FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
 FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.
 
 Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as
 I am a newbie here. ;)

Yeah, it always helps if you don't piss off everybody when you're
tring to get help ;)

 
 FS Welcome to FreeBSD!
 
 Thanks.  Appreciate it, Frank.
 

No worries.

BTW, you can get back to the installer with:

# /stand/sysinstall

and from there with your discs you can install a limited amount of
ports/packages.

Best of luck with it. It will take you some blood, sweat and tears to
familiarise yourself with FreeBSD but once you've gone through the
initial learning process and setting up the basics such as networking
and email, it's very easy to maintain your system and install software
- much easier than Linux IMHO. The ports system for application
software and buildkernel/buildworld for upgrading your base system are
very effective.

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The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Arindam

I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I
got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names
being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2.

I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What
is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it.

I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain
some of the ports collection?

Finally, what is the ports collection?

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I
got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names
being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2.

I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What
is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it.

I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain
some of the ports collection?

Finally, what is the ports collection?



To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to install
software from source that does not come as part of the base distribution -
that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD installs itself to
directories in / and /usr. The base distribution includes stuff like the X
Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the mail handler. These latter
three are available as ports, which when compiled go into /usr/local by
default on FreeBSD.

The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports
collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
(under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports
collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
and type:

$ make install clean

(note you need to have Linux compatibility already installed and turned on
to make this work).

($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile,
and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles
them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively
install the compiled port and clean up after make.

The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are
pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from
the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on
Disc1).

Cheers



You're welcome!

Jeff.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:41, Jeff Rollin wrote:
 To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to
 install software from source that does not come as part of the base
 distribution - that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD
 installs itself to directories in / and /usr. The base distribution
 includes stuff like the X Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the
 mail handler. 

The base system doesn't include X Windows.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin



The base system doesn't include X Windows.
_



Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Jeff Rollin
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:



 The base system doesn't include X Windows.
 _


 Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
 must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Shouldn't you also be able to:

  cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean

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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:



 The base system doesn't include X Windows.
 _


 Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so
it
 must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

Shouldn't you also be able to:

  cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean

--



That sentence was intended not to mean you have to install XWS as a package
from sysinstall but It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a
package built from ports.

Jeff Rollin
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 12:29, Jeff Rollin wrote:
  The base system doesn't include X Windows.
  _

 Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it
 must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

That's actually my biggest problem with sysinstall, that it's standard 
installation mixes-up base system options and package options. I only use 
sysinstall once in a blue moon, and I find that  Choose Distributions menu, 
baffling - even though I know what I want installed.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 12:03:47 PM, Jeff confabulated:

 On 12/09/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated:

 
 
  The base system doesn't include X Windows.
  _


  Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so
 it
  must be installed as a package from sysinstall).

 Shouldn't you also be able to:

   cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean

 --

 That sentence was intended not to mean you have to install XWS as a package
 from sysinstall but It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a
 package built from ports.

I  wasn't  for  sure  as I don't install many things using sysinstall.
Thanks for clarifying.

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Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread ograbme
Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others,

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote:

JR On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
 not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
 little while before I can set it up for browsing.

snip

I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1
Release is not hooked up to the Internet.  I bypassed installing the
Ports collection.  The installation went well and I have been
refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and
pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has
quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years
back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc.

Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without
having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my
interest in this thread.

For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ...

snip

JR The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports
JR collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
JR (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports
JR collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
JR with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
JR and type:

JR $ make install clean

Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there,
but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection).
I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus
resulting in /usr/ports/sudo.

I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.

I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
attendent other files and tried the above make install clean.
Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:

 make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop

Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the
pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't
see right away anything clearly indicating the path to take in
resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble
across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring
this email list for further enlightenment.

Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select
Yes to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh?  Nah,
one has to mess up to learn!  And trust me, I've learned quite a bit
by reading yours and others comments and suggestions.  Thank for all
of you being so willing to share your knowledge.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
replying.  I did a reply all (to both Jeff and the list) for my
first submission.  However, perhaps I should of only replied to the
list to eliminate unnecessary traffic.

snip

JR ($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile,
JR and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles
JR them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively
JR install the compiled port and clean up after make.

JR The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are
JR pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from
JR the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on
JR Disc1).

snip


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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 21:02, ograbme wrote:

 I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
 the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
 directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.

 I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
 attendent other files and tried the above make install clean.
 Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:

  make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop

 Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
 the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps,

The ports collection is a set of recipes that enable the the ports system to 
automatically fetch the source, extract it, patch it, build and install the 
result. You can do all this manually, but it's often not straightforward. And 
the added advantage is that software that's installed through the ports 
system is also registered in the package database- making it easier to 
deinstall and upgrade.  

Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree in place, the 
standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Perry Hutchison
 Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree
 in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
 
with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an
up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a
not-updated base install from CD.  OP might be better off
loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the
rest of the system.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Donald J. O'Neill

Perry Hutchison wrote:
Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree
in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap.
 
with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an

up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a
not-updated base install from CD.  OP might be better off
loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the
rest of the system.
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That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't 
complete, as in: not all the ports are there. I stopped installing the 
ports tree from the install CD a long time ago for that reason.


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Re: Re[4]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 12/09/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Jeff,

First of all ... thanks for your help and suggestions ... please see
comments interwoven below.

Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 4:20:51 PM, you wrote:

snip

JR You need to go back into sysinstall and install the ports
JR collection. That will give you the framework for downloading
JR ports, but you will not be able to install them without network
JR access.

Understand.

JR If you want to install a package, the easiest way without
JR network access is to go back into sysinstall and choose it from
JR the Packages item. But, if the package you want is not available
JR on the FreeBSD install discs (if you need to eject one and insert
JR the other, it will tell you to), and you don't have a network
JR connection, I'm afraid you're out of luck.

This is the approach I took.  All looked like it was going well until
the point of needing to switch cdroms.  Couldn't do it.  My cdrom
would not eject so I could switch CDROMs.  Not sure what the problem
was/is, but got to thinking because it was mounted, i.e., mount /cdrom
manually initially by me before starting the sysinstall command.
Anyone I just ignored trying to install those packages that I had
selected and eventually finished up, but when finished, I could not
find the /usr/ports directory ... even though sysinstall reported
individually the selected packages were installed properly during the
process.  Oh well, something went awry.  I'll try again with hopefully
only selecting items from one cdrom to try to control the process in
that regard and see if I experience the same result.

JR If there's nothing else wrong with your system, you don't
JR need to reinstall; just type sysinstall as the root user and
JR you're in.

I cannot with certainly vouch there is nothing wrong with my system.
It hasn't locked up; it hasn't conked out on me; I've been able to do
a number of things (albeit they are cursory type things ... nothing
big ... executing various Unix commands, creating a few small C
programs and compiling them with gcc tool, etc) thus far, without
incident.

JR BTW, I would delete your manually-created /usr/ports
JR directory and everything in it, just in case.

I did this prior to the above steps.  The release I have installed is
FreeBSD 6.1 Release #0 May 07 ... perhaps this is part of the problems
I'm experiencing.  I bought the FreeBSD Mall 4 CDROM, May 2006
set.  May be I need to try to get a newer version.  I think I saw
where there is some release #2 mentioned by various list members.  I
suppose I could download it from the web site and burn it.  I'd only
need the first cdrom, right?

Thanks in advance.  While I may not be making leaps and bounds, I do
feel I'm making some headway!

Take care.



This sounds like a bug to me; before you do anything else I would:

1. Make sure there is no /usr/ports directory;

2. Insert the FBSD CDROM, *without mounting it*

3. Run sysinstall and attempt to install the ports tree again.

If this doesn't work, I would download the FBSD 6.1 CD from a mirror (it was
6.1 you were using, wasn't it?), burn it, and reinstall. If you are sure you
don't need any packages from CD2, you can forgo downloading and burning that
one. In fact if you have the net connection (and the patience), you can
download a bootonly iso that, when used to boot the system, downloads
everything else needed from the net.

HTH (especially as if it does not, I'm out of ideas! :-/)

BTW, if you DO end up reinstalling, make sure you reformat your partitions,
as I have sometimes run out of space when attempting to reinstall on
partitions with data still on them.


Jeff
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Perry Hutchison
  ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
  does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
  CD.

 That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
 complete, as in: not all the ports are there.

Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
their inclusion.)

 I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long
 time ago for that reason.

Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the
ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing
the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet
connection.
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Donald J. O'Neill

Perry Hutchison wrote:
... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree 
does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from
CD.

That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't
complete, as in: not all the ports are there.


Any idea why?  (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the
collection of skeleton directories.  The set of distfiles provided
on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space
and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent 
their inclusion.)



I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long
time ago for that reason.


Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the
ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing
the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet
connection.



You've asked a question, given some clarification as to what you are 
referring to, and I can tell you I don't have anything other than 
possibilities - which may be far from the truth - as to why this is. 
You're referring to a 4 CD set, that can't be downloaded from 
FreeBSD.org, that has to come from somewhere else, such as the
FreeBSD Mall or somewhere else. I would use that if I couldn't connect 
to the Internet at all.


Maybe, I should say: I can't tell you why it is that way. I've never 
been very concerned about it, just understood that it was that way and 
lived with it. I've never had a problem with an up-to-date ports tree 
not playing nicely with a RELEASE or a STABLE install. I suspect the 
reason is that I just never happened to up-date the ports tree at a time 
when there were problems. It does happen at times, but then... You've 
probably heard the advice somethings wrong with your ports tree, blow 
it off and re-install it. It's not a big problem to deal with, the 
problem comes when you need to do it and don't.


Sysinstall only asks if you want to install the ports tree. If I was 
going to update it with cvsup, I would install it from there. I use 
portsnap, so I don't install it from the CD.



Yes, I have a hi-speed connection. It makes things easier. I wouldn't be 
without it.


Don
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Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs

2006-09-12 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 04:02:33PM -0400, ograbme wrote:

 Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others,
 
 Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote:
 
 JR On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
 
  I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do
  not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a
  little while before I can set it up for browsing.
 
 snip
 
 I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1
 Release is not hooked up to the Internet.  I bypassed installing the
 Ports collection.  The installation went well and I have been
 refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and
 pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has
 quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years
 back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc.
 
 Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without
 having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my
 interest in this thread.
 
 For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ...
 
 snip
 
 JR The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports
 JR collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories
 JR (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the 
 ports
 JR collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use
 JR with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox
 JR and type:
 
 JR $ make install clean
 
 Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there,
 but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection).
 I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus
 resulting in /usr/ports/sudo.
 
 I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in
 the distfiles directory.  I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo
 directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it.
 
 I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its
 attendent other files and tried the above make install clean.
 Unfortunately it was a no-go.  Resultant message I received was:
 
  make: Don't know how to make install.  Stop
 
 Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do
 the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the
 pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't
 see right away anything clearly indicating the path to take in
 resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble
 across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring
 this email list for further enlightenment.
 
 Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select
 Yes to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh?  Nah,
 one has to mess up to learn!  And trust me, I've learned quite a bit
 by reading yours and others comments and suggestions.  Thank for all
 of you being so willing to share your knowledge.
 
 Thanks in advance.

Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree:

$ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz

(warning! 35MB compressed)

and:

# mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports
# cd /usr/ports
# tar xvzf ports.tar.gz

to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building
sudo:

$ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo

if there's nothing then:

# cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/
# make install clean

Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using
portsnap or cvsup.

 
 P.S.  Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of
 replying.  I did a reply all (to both Jeff and the list) for my
 first submission.  However, perhaps I should of only replied to the
 list to eliminate unnecessary traffic.
 
 snip
 

That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted
in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list.

Welcome to FreeBSD!

-- 

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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-09-02 Thread Viswas Nair

I got the audio CD to be working fine. Still no luck with the DVD burning in
fluxbox. Cannot/do not want to use and KDE or Gnome tools. Anyone has
experience with prodvd for xcdroast?

Thanks.

On 9/1/06, Wei Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


mount your CD, change to the mount point, then, for example, issue the
command: gmaplyer *.mp3
On 8/31/06, Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed
   (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
   option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and
   DVDs. How do I get Audio
   CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is
   there any
   specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you
   suggest?
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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-31 Thread Viswas Nair

I use fluxbox :( no kde

On 8/31/06, Andriy Babiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--- Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed
 (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
 option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and
 DVDs. How do I get Audio
 CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is
 there any
 specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you
 suggest?

KsCD in KDE environment. You don't need to mount an AudioCD. Make sure
you connected your CD/DVD device audio output to the sound card.

 Also, whats the most commonly used or popular CD +
 DVD burning software used
 in BSD?

Try k3b. I like it.

 Thanks in advance.

Andriy



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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-31 Thread Wei Hu

mount your CD, change to the mount point, then, for example, issue the
command: gmaplyer *.mp3
On 8/31/06, Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed
  (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
  option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and
  DVDs. How do I get Audio
  CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is
  there any
  specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you
  suggest?

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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-30 Thread Andriy Babiy
--- Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed
 (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
 option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and
 DVDs. How do I get Audio
 CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is
 there any
 specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you
 suggest?

KsCD in KDE environment. You don't need to mount an AudioCD. Make sure
you connected your CD/DVD device audio output to the sound card.

 Also, whats the most commonly used or popular CD +
 DVD burning software used
 in BSD?

Try k3b. I like it.

 Thanks in advance.

Andriy

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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-13 Thread N. Raghavendra
At 2006-08-10T23:05:40+05:30, Viswas Nair wrote:

 I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed (Gmplayer) and I do not
 see the option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and DVDs. How do
 I get Audio CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is there
 any specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you suggest?

You can use the `audio/xmms-cdread' port.  See [Handbook, Chapter 7]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia.html
and Dru Lavigne, `Using sound on FreeBSD',
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/09/19/FreeBSD_Basics.html

 Also, whats the most commonly used or popular CD + DVD burning
 software used in BSD?
Perhaps `cdrecord' from the `sysutils/cdrtools' port.  See [Handbook,
Section 17.6]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html

HTH,
Raghavendra.

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Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-10 Thread Viswas Nair

I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and DVDs. How do I get Audio
CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is there any
specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you suggest?

Also, whats the most commonly used or popular CD + DVD burning software used
in BSD?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Playing Audio CDs

2006-08-10 Thread Girish Venkatachalam


--- Viswas Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am new to BSD and have mplayer installed
 (Gmplayer) and I do not see the
 option to play an Audio CD, only CDs, files and
 DVDs. How do I get Audio
 CD's to play? Can they be mounted, if so how? Is
 there any
 specific audio alone CD player (GUI based) that you
 suggest?
I think KDE autodetects and plays audio CDs. Did you
try it?
 
 Also, whats the most commonly used or popular CD +
 DVD burning software used
 in BSD?
There are quite a few of them. If you want a simple
cmd line utility I like cdrdao if u r talking of audio
or VCDS. It can also blank CDs. 

There are any GUI tools like xcdroast, graveman
cdrecord...

I think cdrecord is the most used backend. May u shud
read man cdrecord...
 
 Thanks in advance.
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Mac Newbold wrote:
 Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:
 
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
 asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
 asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times
 
 This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
 are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
 computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
 handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
 long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.
 
 I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me
 with _any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced
 CDs. Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My
 problem is not with the inability to get the data off, that doesn't seem
 to be a real issue. The problem is with the crashing of the computer.
 
 Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be causing
 FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from the disk?
 The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS handling that
 failure gracefully?
 
 If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 or some list related to multimedia, please let me know.


The following contains a very short and good explanation on audio disc
protections:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_protection#Copy_protection_for_audio_CDs

Also, I did not specifically mention FreeBSD or any other OSes. I just
merely said some of them (discs) even crash computers. Not only
FreeBSDs are out there.

For example, my Mac won't accept Linkin Park's Meteora, Jack Johnson's
On and On or Missy Elliot's This is not a Test. They get spat out right
away. I tried to extract tracks off those discs on FreeBSD but I get the
very same errors you get.

My car's player goes nuts trying to play Korn's Greatest Hits Vol.1 last
track. Years ago, every time I wanted to put something onto my MD player
I had to duplicate the disc on Windows first and then put it through
Sony's patented/protected/secure software. Otherwise it would just
freeze on last tracks (note: some enhanced discs, not all of them).

Also, as Fabian said, by copying you even get better discs. I agree. I
duplicate all problematic discs so my Mac will accept them as well as my
car's player.

In short, everything depends on your hardware, software and media you're
trying to copy. The protection mainly is based on errors and faults on a
disc that try to confuse your CD drive and not your CD player. This is
where software comes into play and saves the day. Your results may vary.


Cheers,
Mikhail.

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread Mac Newbold

Yesterday at 4:23pm, Mac Newbold said:


Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times


I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me with 
_any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced CDs. Never 
has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My problem is not with the 
inability to get the data off, that doesn't seem to be a real issue. The 
problem is with the crashing of the computer.


Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be causing 
FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from the disk? The 
device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS handling that failure 
gracefully?


If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some 
list related to multimedia, please let me know.


Thanks to everyone who has contributed answers to this thread. (BTW, it is 
helpful if you keep me cc'd in your replies, since I'm not on the list 
itself and only see responses when I go check the archive.)


To answer some of the questions that came up:

1. It never happens on any plain/normal/non-enhanced audio CD I've tried, 
which I'm quite sure might include some that are copy protected or have 
some kind of DRM in place.


2. None of them have said anything about being non-functional or limited 
with certain computer players or operating systems that I have noticed.


If we can, I'd like to take this discussion in a slightly different 
direction. Let's change our thinking by making the following assumptions:


A. It is not a DRM or copy protection scheme causing the errors.

B. Since it happens on every enhanced CD (i.e. one containing audio 
tracks and a data track meant to be read on a computer) that I've been 
able to try, but not on any non-enhanced CDs, of which I've tested many 
hundreds, let's assume it is related to the fact that it is enhanced.


By combining assumption A and assumption B, I'm led to the conclusion that 
there is something about Enhanced CDs that is causing FreeBSD to get 
unrecoverable errors that lead inevitably to a system crash. Namely, it 
generates READ_CD Hardware Error messages, followed by a series of 
READ_CD Illegal Request messages immediately prior to the crash.


Does anyone have some ideas (other than copy protection or DRM) on why 
this might be happening or what might be done to solve the problem?


Does anyone have some ideas of other places or lists where I might ask a 
similar question and be more likely to get closer to solving the problem?


Thanks again,
Mac

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread Garrett Cooper

Mac Newbold wrote:


Yesterday at 4:23pm, Mac Newbold said:


Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times




I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me 
with _any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on 
enhanced CDs. Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio 
CD. My problem is not with the inability to get the data off, that 
doesn't seem to be a real issue. The problem is with the crashing of 
the computer.


Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be 
causing FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it 
from the disk? The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the 
OS handling that failure gracefully?


If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or some list related to multimedia, please let me 
know.



Thanks to everyone who has contributed answers to this thread. (BTW, 
it is helpful if you keep me cc'd in your replies, since I'm not on 
the list itself and only see responses when I go check the archive.)


To answer some of the questions that came up:

1. It never happens on any plain/normal/non-enhanced audio CD I've 
tried, which I'm quite sure might include some that are copy 
protected or have some kind of DRM in place.


2. None of them have said anything about being non-functional or 
limited with certain computer players or operating systems that I have 
noticed.


If we can, I'd like to take this discussion in a slightly different 
direction. Let's change our thinking by making the following assumptions:


A. It is not a DRM or copy protection scheme causing the errors.

B. Since it happens on every enhanced CD (i.e. one containing audio 
tracks and a data track meant to be read on a computer) that I've been 
able to try, but not on any non-enhanced CDs, of which I've tested 
many hundreds, let's assume it is related to the fact that it is 
enhanced.


By combining assumption A and assumption B, I'm led to the conclusion 
that there is something about Enhanced CDs that is causing FreeBSD to 
get unrecoverable errors that lead inevitably to a system crash. 
Namely, it generates READ_CD Hardware Error messages, followed by a 
series of READ_CD Illegal Request messages immediately prior to the 
crash.


Does anyone have some ideas (other than copy protection or DRM) on why 
this might be happening or what might be done to solve the problem?


Does anyone have some ideas of other places or lists where I might ask 
a similar question and be more likely to get closer to solving the 
problem?


Thanks again,
Mac


Ok then... what is the CD drive and model?
-Garrett
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread Micah

Mac Newbold wrote:

Yesterday at 4:23pm, Mac Newbold said:


Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times


I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me 
with _any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced 
CDs. Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My 
problem is not with the inability to get the data off, that doesn't 
seem to be a real issue. The problem is with the crashing of the 
computer.


Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be 
causing FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from 
the disk? The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS 
handling that failure gracefully?


If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
or some list related to multimedia, please let me know.


Thanks to everyone who has contributed answers to this thread. (BTW, it 
is helpful if you keep me cc'd in your replies, since I'm not on the 
list itself and only see responses when I go check the archive.)


To answer some of the questions that came up:

1. It never happens on any plain/normal/non-enhanced audio CD I've 
tried, which I'm quite sure might include some that are copy protected 
or have some kind of DRM in place.


2. None of them have said anything about being non-functional or limited 
with certain computer players or operating systems that I have noticed.


If we can, I'd like to take this discussion in a slightly different 
direction. Let's change our thinking by making the following assumptions:


A. It is not a DRM or copy protection scheme causing the errors.

B. Since it happens on every enhanced CD (i.e. one containing audio 
tracks and a data track meant to be read on a computer) that I've been 
able to try, but not on any non-enhanced CDs, of which I've tested many 
hundreds, let's assume it is related to the fact that it is enhanced.


By combining assumption A and assumption B, I'm led to the conclusion 
that there is something about Enhanced CDs that is causing FreeBSD to 
get unrecoverable errors that lead inevitably to a system crash. Namely, 
it generates READ_CD Hardware Error messages, followed by a series of 
READ_CD Illegal Request messages immediately prior to the crash.


Does anyone have some ideas (other than copy protection or DRM) on why 
this might be happening or what might be done to solve the problem?


Does anyone have some ideas of other places or lists where I might ask a 
similar question and be more likely to get closer to solving the problem?


Thanks again,
Mac

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I can confirm that enhanced CDs do not rip properly on FreeBSD 6.1 
with cdparanoia -B. cdparanoia reports a bunch of V's (Uncorrected 
error/skip) and my messages log is FILLED (74MB) with thousands of the 
following errors:


Jun 16 12:00:00 trisha kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 
ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 
acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE 
- READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD 
ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL 
REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 
ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 
acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE 
- READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD 
ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL 
REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 
ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 
acd0: FAILURE


That's just one of nearly 88,000 similar lines from messages. But I do 
NOT get a reboot/crash, just thousands of errors and a silent rip of the 
track. This is on a NEC DVD RW ND-3520AW/3.05 accessed via /dev/acd0


The CDs I used are very unlikely to have any DRM or copy protection as 
they are circa 1998 CDs. Three CDs tried, all three had the error near 
the data track.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread martinko
Mac Newbold wrote:
 
 This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it
 and see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to
 this really annyoing problem.
 
 I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and
 lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with
 other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an
 enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio
 tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks.
 It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long
 period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip
 only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it
 gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that
 point, it still crashes the box.
 
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
 asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
 asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times
 
 I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam
 DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too,
 with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.)
 
 Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else
 had this problem and found a suitable workaround?
 
 Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track,
 and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back
 up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :(
 
 Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 Mac
 
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well, it has happened to me last week. but until now i've been under
impression it was because of copy-protection. but hey, it happened right
there before the end of the last track which was followed by data track.
the cd was depeche mode playing the angel from 2005. the cover says it's
copy protected. still i haven't had any issue grabbing the whole disc
but the last track. crashing my system is very bad indeed. shouldn't
happen, never. the sw used was abcde with cdparanoia.

regards.

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-16 Thread Dave

Hello,
   I don't know if this is related to the topic under discussion, but i'm 
trying to rip a new CD it contains both video and audio and i'm stuck on 
track 13. In my /var/log/messages i'm seeing this, and then the msg Last 
message repeated 300 times and as the system tries to read and writes out 
the message to syslog the machine gets slower and slower. This is on a 6.1 
box, and i never let it go long enough for a crash.

Thanks.
Dave.

Jun 16 19:55:25 zeus kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=4ABORTED

Jun 16 19:55:57 zeus last message repeated 338 times

- Original Message - 
From: martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs



Mac Newbold wrote:


This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it
and see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to
this really annyoing problem.

I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and
lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with
other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an
enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio
tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks.
It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long
period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip
only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it
gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that
point, it still crashes the box.

Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times

I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam
DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too,
with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.)

Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else
had this problem and found a suitable workaround?

Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track,
and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back
up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :(

Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Mac

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well, it has happened to me last week. but until now i've been under
impression it was because of copy-protection. but hey, it happened right
there before the end of the last track which was followed by data track.
the cd was depeche mode playing the angel from 2005. the cover says it's
copy protected. still i haven't had any issue grabbing the whole disc
but the last track. crashing my system is very bad indeed. shouldn't
happen, never. the sw used was abcde with cdparanoia.

regards.

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Mikhail Goriachev wrote:
 Mac Newbold wrote:
 This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it
 and see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to
 this really annyoing problem.

 I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and
 lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with
 other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an
 enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio
 tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks.
 It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long
 period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip
 only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it
 gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that
 point, it still crashes the box.

 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
 asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
 asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times

 I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam
 DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too,
 with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.)

 Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else
 had this problem and found a suitable workaround?

 Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track,
 and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back
 up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :(

 Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated!
 
 
 Hi,
 
 This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
 are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
 computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
 handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
 long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.
 
 Cheers,
 Mikhail.

Like Mikhail was mentioning, the DMCA appears to be in your way; many
companies thought it was necessary to copyright protect CDs and they
have accomplished that feat by added various protection features to CDs,
some of which are intentional CD track errors.
The best way I've found with dealing with these types of issues is to
use a program like iTunes to rip the content, since it will happily
unlock the CD and encode in mp3 or mp4 format-which is fairly
lossless-and I can go from there.
Best of luck with that,
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Fabian Keil
Mikhail Goriachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mac Newbold wrote:

  I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia
  and lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me
  with other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to
  rip an enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with
  the audio tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the
  enhanced tracks. It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all
  enhanced, and over a long period of time. It is very repeatable.
  Even if I ask the ripper to rip only the track prior to the
  enhanced track, it still crashes when it gets about 90-95% through
  the track. Even if I try to break out at that point, it still
  crashes the box.
  
  Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
  asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
  Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL
  REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
  Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times
  
  I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my
  atapicam DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on
  4-STABLE boxes too, with widely different hardware (different mobo
  makers, chipsets, etc.)

 This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
 are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
 computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
 handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
 long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.

Can you name a few discs that crashed your system?
I copied quite a bit non standard discs with cdda2wav
on FreeBSD and never saw a single crash.

Fabian
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Fabian Keil wrote:
 This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
 are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
 computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
 handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
 long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.
 
 Can you name a few discs that crashed your system?
 I copied quite a bit non standard discs with cdda2wav
 on FreeBSD and never saw a single crash.


Probably I should have been more specific with crashing computers.
Personally, I haven't come across such discs. There was some issue with
Sony's discs a few years ago doing some serious damage to iMacs. There
are also many discs with a will not play on pc/mac warning or similar
and apparently they cause havoc as well. Obviously effects vary
depending on OSes.


Cheers,
Mikhail.


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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Fabian Keil
Mikhail Goriachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fabian Keil wrote:
  This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays
  there are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even
  crash computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like
  CloneCD can handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I
  use after having long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.
  
  Can you name a few discs that crashed your system?
  I copied quite a bit non standard discs with cdda2wav
  on FreeBSD and never saw a single crash.
 
 Probably I should have been more specific with crashing computers.
 Personally, I haven't come across such discs. There was some issue
 with Sony's discs a few years ago doing some serious damage to iMacs.
 There are also many discs with a will not play on pc/mac warning or
 similar and apparently they cause havoc as well. Obviously effects
 vary depending on OSes.

Usually will not play on pc/mac only means will not play on pc/mac
if the system is misconfigured or the user was stupid enough to
install our broken drivers.

If the disc can be played in some CD players, there
shouldn't be a problem copying the audio tracks either.

Most of the time computer drives have better
error correction than CD players, rereading
some sectors isn't an issue and after copying you
even get better disc. 

Original:
http://www.fabiankeil.de/blog-surrogat/2005/11/18/air-talkie-walkie-c1-scan-2005-11-14.png
Copy (without the data track):
http://www.fabiankeil.de/bilder/cddoctor/a-tws32.png

My CD player wasn't able to properly play the original version,
but the copy played just fine.

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Øyvind Skaar

Like Mikhail was mentioning, the DMCA appears to be in your way; many
companies thought it was necessary to copyright protect CDs and they
have accomplished that feat by added various protection features to CDs,
some of which are intentional CD track errors.


Are those even CD's? IIRC they cant use the compact disc logo or even 
the name.. lets do the world a favor and boycott those little shine 
wannebe cdd :)



Are you talking about copy protected cds? FYI i have no problems 
ripping audio cds with data tracks using abcde  cdparanoia.




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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Mac Newbold

Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times



This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.


I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me with 
_any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced CDs. 
Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My problem is 
not with the inability to get the data off, that doesn't seem to be a 
real issue. The problem is with the crashing of the computer.


Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be causing 
FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from the disk? 
The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS handling that 
failure gracefully?


If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
some list related to multimedia, please let me know.


Thanks,
Mac

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Mac Newbold wrote:
 Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:
 
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
 asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
 asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times
 
 This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
 are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
 computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
 handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
 long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.
 
 I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me
 with _any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced
 CDs. Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My
 problem is not with the inability to get the data off, that doesn't seem
 to be a real issue. The problem is with the crashing of the computer.
 
 Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be causing
 FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from the disk?
 The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS handling that
 failure gracefully?
 
 If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 or some list related to multimedia, please let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 Mac
 
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Does the packaging explicitly say this CD will only work in Windows
or have similar notes on it? Macs aren't supported in the anti-piracy
CDs produced by sony (and other Japanese groups) at least, so that's an
easy sign that you have a copy-protected CD.
Also, if you can't open up the CD using Winamp version 5.0 in Windows
or copy the tracks using CD burning software like Nero or Roxio, the
CD's definitely copy-protected.
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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-15 Thread Dag Rune Sneeggen

Garrett Cooper wrote:

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Mac Newbold wrote:

Today at 2:55pm, Mikhail Goriachev said:


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times

This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.

I am pretty sure this isn't an anti-piracy feature. It happens to me
with _any_ enhanced CD (audio+data mixed CD), and _only_ on enhanced
CDs. Never has it happened to me on any non-enhanced audio CD. My
problem is not with the inability to get the data off, that doesn't seem
to be a real issue. The problem is with the crashing of the computer.

Why should _any_ data read from a removable disk of any kind be causing
FreeBSD to crash by the mere act of attempting to read it from the disk?
The device is reporting a failure, but why isn't the OS handling that
failure gracefully?

If I'm asking the wrong list, and should be asking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or some list related to multimedia, please let me know.

Thanks,
Mac

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.macnewbold.com/


Does the packaging explicitly say this CD will only work in Windows
or have similar notes on it? Macs aren't supported in the anti-piracy
CDs produced by sony (and other Japanese groups) at least, so that's an
easy sign that you have a copy-protected CD.
Also, if you can't open up the CD using Winamp version 5.0 in Windows
or copy the tracks using CD burning software like Nero or Roxio, the
CD's definitely copy-protected.
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The excellent Grip cd-ripper for Linux/BSD (http://nostatic.org/grip/) has 
never failed me yet, despite all sorts of awful DRM software the CD might 
be packed with.
It's a brilliant piece of software, I rank it as the best out there without 
question! :)


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ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-14 Thread Mac Newbold


This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it and 
see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to this 
really annyoing problem.


I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and lame 
(via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with other 
rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an enhanced 
CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio tracks, it 
crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks. It has 
happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long 
period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip 
only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it 
gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that 
point, it still crashes the box.


Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR 
asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0

Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times

I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam 
DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too, 
with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.)


Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else had 
this problem and found a suitable workaround?


Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track, 
and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back 
up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :(


Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Mac

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Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs

2006-06-14 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Mac Newbold wrote:
 
 This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it
 and see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to
 this really annyoing problem.
 
 I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and
 lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with
 other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an
 enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio
 tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks.
 It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long
 period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip
 only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it
 gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that
 point, it still crashes the box.
 
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR
 asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST
 asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0
 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times
 
 I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam
 DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too,
 with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.)
 
 Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else
 had this problem and found a suitable workaround?
 
 Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track,
 and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back
 up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :(
 
 Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated!


Hi,

This is an anti-piracy feature included on some discs. Nowadays there
are more and more protected discs around. Some of them even crash
computers when loading. How silly is that? Programs like CloneCD can
handle such things on Windows boxes. That is what I use after having
long frustrated sessions with open-source tools.

Cheers,
Mikhail.


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Writing CDs on a DVD drive.

2006-03-02 Thread Malcolm Kay
It is not very clear what utilities are capable of writing R or 
RW CDs on a multipurpose optical drive. It seems that burncd 
doesn't do this and the man pages for growisofs talks of 
specific DVD media types but not CDs.

Is cdrecord a suitable tool for this purpose?

And a (sort of) related question, will growisofs write double or 
dual layer DVDs? The man page does make mention of a write limit 
of 4+GB but I see this can be turned off. Is this enough to 
enable writing dual/double layer medis?

Are there more suitable utilities executing these tasks? I'm not 
looking for GUI wrappers for command line utilities but the base 
level utilities.

Any help appreciated.

Malcolm Kay
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