Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-09 Thread Dale E Sterner
thanks

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:46:56 GMT "Bret Johnson" 
writes:
> Look at the following web site:
> 
> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Standard.htm
> 
> There are all kinds of standards there related to optical media (CD 
> & DVD) -- both physical/media standards and software/protocol 
> standards.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-09 Thread Bret Johnson
Look at the following web site:

http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Standard.htm

There are all kinds of standards there related to optical media (CD & DVD) -- 
both physical/media standards and software/protocol standards.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-09 Thread Dale E Sterner
I looked for books never found any. Didn't know what to search for.
There are large books filled with printer commands and how to
use them. Nothing for cd commands. There use to be books for
modem commands really scarce now.


cheers
DS



On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 20:41:37 +0200 Tom Ehlert 
writes:
> 
> > On 6/8/2015 7:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> >> For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
> >> for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
> >> Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.
> >>
> > Yes, it's called ATAPI and there exist a lot of different 
> documents for
> > the different classes of ATAPI devices. The only non-ATAPI CD-ROM 
> drives
> > that I am aware of are/were those of some early Creative 
> > soundcard/CD-ROM drive combos. Those used their own subset of 
> ATAPI 
> > commands, hence a more standard CD-ROM driver won't work, as well 
> had 
> > their own digital audio connector that made those CD-ROM drives 
> only 
> > work with their bundled sound cards and vice versa...
> 
> > The catch with the documentation however is that this is stuff 
> that you
> > have to buy from t13.org, the committee that defined those 
> standards...
> 
> googling 'ATAPI specification' turned up www.bswd.com/sff8020i.pdf 
> at
> position 2.
> 
> there are MANY other links containing the ATAPI spec.
> 
> even you old time DOS guys should start to use a search engine 
> instead
> of asking such (easy answered) questions on mailing lists.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Tom Ehlert

> On 6/8/2015 7:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>> For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
>> for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
>> Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.
>>
> Yes, it's called ATAPI and there exist a lot of different documents for
> the different classes of ATAPI devices. The only non-ATAPI CD-ROM drives
> that I am aware of are/were those of some early Creative 
> soundcard/CD-ROM drive combos. Those used their own subset of ATAPI 
> commands, hence a more standard CD-ROM driver won't work, as well had 
> their own digital audio connector that made those CD-ROM drives only 
> work with their bundled sound cards and vice versa...

> The catch with the documentation however is that this is stuff that you
> have to buy from t13.org, the committee that defined those standards...

googling 'ATAPI specification' turned up www.bswd.com/sff8020i.pdf at
position 2.

there are MANY other links containing the ATAPI spec.

even you old time DOS guys should start to use a search engine instead
of asking such (easy answered) questions on mailing lists.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/8/2015 7:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
> for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
> Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.
>
Yes, it's called ATAPI and there exist a lot of different documents for 
the different classes of ATAPI devices. The only non-ATAPI CD-ROM drives 
that I am aware of are/were those of some early Creative 
soundcard/CD-ROM drive combos. Those used their own subset of ATAPI 
commands, hence a more standard CD-ROM driver won't work, as well had 
their own digital audio connector that made those CD-ROM drives only 
work with their bundled sound cards and vice versa...

The catch with the documentation however is that this is stuff that you 
have to buy from t13.org, the committee that defined those standards...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Eric Auer  wrote:
>
> http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268
>
> mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
> drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
> modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
> command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)

He's basically saying that Lite-On is too old and non-standard. Thus
he takes no blame nor responsibility. So it's your buggy drive's
fault, not his. Apparently he thinks his drivers are flawless.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Dale E Sterner
For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.

cheers
DS


On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 13:22:43 +0200 Eric Auer  writes:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268
> 
> mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
> drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
> modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
> command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)
> 
> Regards, Eric
> 
> >> It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to 
> know
> >> would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
> >> alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old 
> DOS
> >> drivers.
> > 
> > That seems to have been the case.  In my post that followed the 
> one you 
> > replied to, I noted that I successfully replaced uide.sys with a 
> Lite-on 
> > driver to get audio CD working.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Eric Auer

Hi John,

http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268

mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)

Regards, Eric

>> It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to know
>> would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
>> alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old DOS
>> drivers.
> 
> That seems to have been the case.  In my post that followed the one you 
> replied to, I noted that I successfully replaced uide.sys with a Lite-on 
> driver to get audio CD working.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-05 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 04/06/2015 22:16, John Hupp wrote:
> But pursuing the driver-as-a-suspect angle anyway, I found a Lite-on DOS
> driver and installed that.  CD playing now works.

That's nice to now - would you mind to specify please what mode of 
CD-Audio is working for you exactly when using Lite-on, but not UIDE?
  - audio CD handled by the CD drive in hardware
  - audio CD played by direct data access (like MPXPLAY does)
  - both?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

I hate to dredge all of this up, but 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:16 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
>
> I correct myself.  I was using ide-cd.sys on another machine I was
> working with a couple weeks ago.  On this machine I have been using the
> default uide.sys.
>
> But pursuing the driver-as-a-suspect angle anyway, I found a Lite-on DOS
> driver and installed that.  CD playing now works. Thank you for the
> idea, Eric!!
>
> If there is a sad note, it is that uide.sys has fallen short on two
> machines in a row.  On the other one, I had no CD function at all.  In
> this one, I had data CD function, but no audio CD.

John, which exact version of UIDE are you using? I'm assuming latest
on iBiblio, which is "Mar-05". You may want to try older versions. For
that particular reason (among others), we often keep them in case of
unforeseen regressions.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/ellis/old/

Actually, that's the reason I never uploaded "Mar-18" for him. If you
want, I can email you that version, but I doubt it's much better!

You could also try his new (closed source) drivers. (Yes, he directly
blames me for closing sources. Sigh. Totally imaginary offense, but
hey, what can you do? Totally against FreeDOS and SourceForge, alas.)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15785527/dos/file/drivers.zip

In fact, if you're really adventurous (and a glutton for punishment),
email him directly! I wouldn't really recommend it, but if you insist
on knowing why they don't work (assuming you've tried all of the
above), that may be your only answer. But keep in mind that Jack is
not exactly a friendly person.

http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=uide

P.S. Honestly, I don't even want to mention any of this. It's too
annoying. But, for clarity, if you really want to know, those are your
only options.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread John Hupp
On 6/4/2015 4:29 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
> It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to know
> would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
> alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old DOS
> drivers.

That seems to have been the case.  In my post that followed the one you 
replied to, I noted that I successfully replaced uide.sys with a Lite-on 
driver to get audio CD working.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the clarifications.  I could add though, that I tried "CDROM2
> PLAY01 F:" and it responded with something like "F: is not an audio
> drive, but < F: > is."
>
> The CD-ROM cable is known working (confirmed via Win 98), and I turned
> up the CD volume in the sound card mixer.

Do you think that's the problem?? Then try this:

http://www.bttr-software.de/products/sbmix/sbmixb.zip

But what exactly are your (Win98 and DOS) CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
relevant lines? Maybe you used some incorrect settings.

> But it may be that the drive lacks the built-in audio playing function
> that your program requires.  It has a headphone jack and volume dial,
> but no Play/Stop/Next/Previous controls like older drives did.  (It's a
> 48x CD-ROM, a Lite-on LTN-485S manufactured in 2000.)

No idea about hardware limitations.

> I hadn't thought about the CD driver as a suspect.  A couple weeks ago I
> had a thread named "For CD: Error reading from drive D: data area: drive
> not ready" in which I detailed my struggles with getting a working
> configuration.  I'm currently using a driver named ide-cd.sys.  I don't
> know where it came from originally, but I used it successfully on a
> machine a few years ago.

It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to know
would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old DOS
drivers.

As much as I think the term "Linux" is overused and less useful than
implied (*especially* for legacy hardware), there are some ancient
distros which are fairly lean. My point is that you could try and see
if they work (with their drivers), or at least to tell you more about
your actual hardware. One old (2006) but good example is the
two-floppy BlueFlops:

http://blueflops.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/blueflops/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/blueflops/files/blueflops/blueflops-2.0.15/blueflops-2.0.15.zip/download

I know you say Win98 works fine, but if even Linux doesn't work, then
I don't think DOS has much chance (anymore, since everyone abandons /
forgets everything old). Granted, if Win98 isn't good enough, neither
is Linux, but I'm just saying ... I'm curious whether even that works
for you!

> Your "alternative way" is also referred to as digital audio extraction?
> I understood from Mateusz Viste that mpxplay will do that, though I
> don't know how and haven't pursued that.  I think it may require a
> plugin (CDW).  He also said it would draw more heavily on the CPU -- and
> this machine only has a Pentium 150.

I could be wrong, but I think Eric means you should "rip" whatever
audio you want into .mp3 locally, which can then be played without
needing direct CD access at all. For example, this is what the DJGPP
port of Hexen2 supports (although you can't rip from DOS itself). Of
course, you'll still need a DOS-friendly soundcard (or use DOSEMU or
DOSBox or similar).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread John Hupp
I correct myself.  I was using ide-cd.sys on another machine I was 
working with a couple weeks ago.  On this machine I have been using the 
default uide.sys.

But pursuing the driver-as-a-suspect angle anyway, I found a Lite-on DOS 
driver and installed that.  CD playing now works. Thank you for the 
idea, Eric!!

If there is a sad note, it is that uide.sys has fallen short on two 
machines in a row.  On the other one, I had no CD function at all.  In 
this one, I had data CD function, but no audio CD.

On 6/4/2015 2:06 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> Thanks for the clarifications.  I could add though, that I tried 
> "CDROM2 PLAY01 F:" and it responded with something like "F: is not an 
> audio drive, but < F: > is."
>
> The CD-ROM cable is known working (confirmed via Win 98), and I turned 
> up the CD volume in the sound card mixer.
>
> But it may be that the drive lacks the built-in audio playing function 
> that your program requires.  It has a headphone jack and volume dial, 
> but no Play/Stop/Next/Previous controls like older drives did.  (It's 
> a 48x CD-ROM, a Lite-on LTN-485S manufactured in 2000.)
>
> I hadn't thought about the CD driver as a suspect.  A couple weeks ago 
> I had a thread named "For CD: Error reading from drive D: data area: 
> drive not ready" in which I detailed my struggles with getting a 
> working configuration.  I'm currently using a driver named 
> ide-cd.sys.  I don't know where it came from originally, but I used it 
> successfully on a machine a few years ago.
>
> Your "alternative way" is also referred to as digital audio 
> extraction?  I understood from Mateusz Viste that mpxplay will do 
> that, though I don't know how and haven't pursued that.  I think it 
> may require a plugin (CDW).  He also said it would draw more heavily 
> on the CPU -- and this machine only has a Pentium 150.
>
> On 6/4/2015 1:13 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> With cdrom2ui, I ran these two commands:
 CDROM2 PLAY01 < F: >
 CDROM PLAY01 < F: >
>>> In both cases it responded "Error reading from drive F: data area:
>>> drive not ready."
>> Only the larger CDROM2 tool supports audio commands
>> and you have to omit the < >, so the proper command
>> would be: "CDROM2 PLAY01 F:" However, this only tells
>> the drive to use the built-in audio playing function
>> which modern drives might lack. The sound gets output
>> to the headphone jack of your CD drive (if it has the
>> connector) and the output for 3- or 4-pin cables to
>> your soundcard or mainboard (if it has that). If you
>> use the latter output, you also have to have a cable
>> connected and the volume control on your soundcard
>> properly set. Last but not least, not all drivers of
>> CD/DVD/BluRay drives might support audio commands.
>>
>> The alternative way is to read out the raw audio data
>> and then either store that as WAV, convert it to OGG
>> or MP3, or play it directly. I think this is now the
>> more common way of accessing audio on CD via a PC :-)
>>
>> Regards, Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread John Hupp
Thanks for the clarifications.  I could add though, that I tried "CDROM2 
PLAY01 F:" and it responded with something like "F: is not an audio 
drive, but < F: > is."

The CD-ROM cable is known working (confirmed via Win 98), and I turned 
up the CD volume in the sound card mixer.

But it may be that the drive lacks the built-in audio playing function 
that your program requires.  It has a headphone jack and volume dial, 
but no Play/Stop/Next/Previous controls like older drives did.  (It's a 
48x CD-ROM, a Lite-on LTN-485S manufactured in 2000.)

I hadn't thought about the CD driver as a suspect.  A couple weeks ago I 
had a thread named "For CD: Error reading from drive D: data area: drive 
not ready" in which I detailed my struggles with getting a working 
configuration.  I'm currently using a driver named ide-cd.sys.  I don't 
know where it came from originally, but I used it successfully on a 
machine a few years ago.

Your "alternative way" is also referred to as digital audio extraction?  
I understood from Mateusz Viste that mpxplay will do that, though I 
don't know how and haven't pursued that.  I think it may require a 
plugin (CDW).  He also said it would draw more heavily on the CPU -- and 
this machine only has a Pentium 150.

On 6/4/2015 1:13 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> With cdrom2ui, I ran these two commands:
>>> CDROM2 PLAY01 < F: >
>>> CDROM PLAY01 < F: >
>> In both cases it responded "Error reading from drive F: data area:
>> drive not ready."
> Only the larger CDROM2 tool supports audio commands
> and you have to omit the < >, so the proper command
> would be: "CDROM2 PLAY01 F:" However, this only tells
> the drive to use the built-in audio playing function
> which modern drives might lack. The sound gets output
> to the headphone jack of your CD drive (if it has the
> connector) and the output for 3- or 4-pin cables to
> your soundcard or mainboard (if it has that). If you
> use the latter output, you also have to have a cable
> connected and the volume control on your soundcard
> properly set. Last but not least, not all drivers of
> CD/DVD/BluRay drives might support audio commands.
>
> The alternative way is to read out the raw audio data
> and then either store that as WAV, convert it to OGG
> or MP3, or play it directly. I think this is now the
> more common way of accessing audio on CD via a PC :-)
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

> With cdrom2ui, I ran these two commands:
>> CDROM2 PLAY01 < F: >
>> CDROM PLAY01 < F: >
> 
> In both cases it responded "Error reading from drive F: data area:
> drive not ready."

Only the larger CDROM2 tool supports audio commands
and you have to omit the < >, so the proper command
would be: "CDROM2 PLAY01 F:" However, this only tells
the drive to use the built-in audio playing function
which modern drives might lack. The sound gets output
to the headphone jack of your CD drive (if it has the
connector) and the output for 3- or 4-pin cables to
your soundcard or mainboard (if it has that). If you
use the latter output, you also have to have a cable
connected and the volume control on your soundcard
properly set. Last but not least, not all drivers of
CD/DVD/BluRay drives might support audio commands.

The alternative way is to read out the raw audio data
and then either store that as WAV, convert it to OGG
or MP3, or play it directly. I think this is now the
more common way of accessing audio on CD via a PC :-)

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread John Hupp

On 6/4/2015 7:43 AM, Rugxulo wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:16 PM, John Hupp  wrote:

With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD
player working.

I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got the
sound card working in Windows.  I also established how to connect the
standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the
non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then
worked in Windows.

But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable
connection, my two CD players still failed just as before.

I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. Suggestions?

I haven't used a lot of CDs on my computers in recent years. So I'm
somewhat out of touch.

The two that immediately come to mind are these:

1). http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/cdrom2ui.zip

That one's cmdline only, extremely minimal.

2). http://www.6502.org/users/sjgray/software/sjgplay/sjgplay_dos.html

That's an old favorite (not that I ever did karaoke, but it's a cool feature).


With cdrom2ui, I ran these two commands:
> CDROM2 PLAY01 < F: >
> CDROM PLAY01 < F: >

In both cases it responded "Error reading from drive F: data area: drive 
not ready."


But the CD plays elsewhere.  Nonetheless I tried another CD with the 
same result.  This same drive works fine for data CD's, and it works 
fine for audio CD's in Windows.




With sjgplay, the auto-scan seems to fail.  It uses drive a:, reports 1 
track only, and the CD title is the generic CD00.CD.


If I run sjgplay on the same hardware under Win 98 in a DOS window, it 
plays just fine.




So both of these players seem not to see the drive.  And CD-V reported 
"Invalid media!"


Could all the players I tried be requiring MSCDEX, and failing with SHSUCDX?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:16 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
>
> With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD
> player working.
>
> I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got the
> sound card working in Windows.  I also established how to connect the
> standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the
> non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then
> worked in Windows.
>
> But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable
> connection, my two CD players still failed just as before.
>
> I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. Suggestions?

I haven't used a lot of CDs on my computers in recent years. So I'm
somewhat out of touch.

The two that immediately come to mind are these:

1). http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/cdrom2ui.zip

That one's cmdline only, extremely minimal.

2). http://www.6502.org/users/sjgray/software/sjgplay/sjgplay_dos.html

That's an old favorite (not that I ever did karaoke, but it's a cool feature).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-03 Thread John Hupp
It occurs to me that at least some of the CD players have D: hard-coded 
as the drive location.  If you had a suggestion for which that was 
configurable, that might help.

On 6/3/2015 9:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD 
> player working.
>
> I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got 
> the sound card working in Windows.  I also established how to connect 
> the standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the 
> non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then 
> worked in Windows.
>
> But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable 
> connection, my two CD players still failed just as before.
>
> I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. 
> Suggestions?
>
> On 6/3/2015 6:30 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>> It turns out that mpxplay was not hanging as I thought.  It was 
>> instead taking 30 seconds to load.
>>
>> It turns out further that the precise format of the BLASTER variable 
>> is important here.  The Media Vision installer created SET 
>> BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 H3 T4.  But mpxplay was choking on the fact that 
>> D1 was before I5.  When I edited the string to SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 
>> H3 T4 instead, the player loaded in a second or two!
>>
>> ==
>>
>> So now all I need to do is get a CD player working.
>>
>> On 6/2/2015 3:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>>> I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro 
>>> Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the 
>>> card's SoundBlaster emulation feature.
>>>
>>> The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test 
>>> WAV's, and these work.
>>>
>>> But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm 
>>> starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 
>>> 1.0.
>>>
>>> Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears 
>>> onscreen.  I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version.
>>>
>>> Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work.  I tried ACP 
>>> and CD-V (v19) so far.  ACP's screen appears with a track list, but 
>>> hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V 
>>> simply generates an "Invalid media!" error.  (I could add that the 
>>> CD setup is fine for data CD's.)
>>>
>>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD 
>>> player that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>>>
>>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item 
>>> at boot.
>>
>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-03 Thread John Hupp
With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD 
player working.

I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got the 
sound card working in Windows.  I also established how to connect the 
standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the 
non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then 
worked in Windows.

But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable 
connection, my two CD players still failed just as before.

I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. Suggestions?

On 6/3/2015 6:30 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> It turns out that mpxplay was not hanging as I thought.  It was 
> instead taking 30 seconds to load.
>
> It turns out further that the precise format of the BLASTER variable 
> is important here.  The Media Vision installer created SET 
> BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 H3 T4.  But mpxplay was choking on the fact that D1 
> was before I5.  When I edited the string to SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H3 
> T4 instead, the player loaded in a second or two!
>
> ==
>
> So now all I need to do is get a CD player working.
>
> On 6/2/2015 3:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>> I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro 
>> Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the 
>> card's SoundBlaster emulation feature.
>>
>> The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test 
>> WAV's, and these work.
>>
>> But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm 
>> starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 1.0.
>>
>> Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears 
>> onscreen.  I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version.
>>
>> Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work.  I tried ACP 
>> and CD-V (v19) so far.  ACP's screen appears with a track list, but 
>> hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V 
>> simply generates an "Invalid media!" error.  (I could add that the CD 
>> setup is fine for data CD's.)
>>
>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player 
>> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>>
>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at 
>> boot.
>


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