Re: [FRIAM] Callling all cladisticists

[Joshua Thorp]

I don't know anything about cladistics, so I don't know whether this  
fits with it.


ABMs can have many different parents,  often not directly known. I'm  
not sure parentage in any strict sense would be a particularly good  
approach.  Better would be to identify separate patterns in how the  
ABMs work.  Any ABM could then be compared (even clustered) with other  
ABMs based on shared patterns.


High level patterns might include: how is time simulated in an ABM?   
How are the energy or other flows accounted for in the model?  How is  
the environment broken up, or represented?  What kinds of interactions  
can take place between parts of the ABM (agents, environment, ?).


Does this fit with cladistics?

--joshua

On Jan 3, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:


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Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

[Joshua Thorp]

The android phone doesn't make the list?
Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration.  Apple would never 
let that happen to their products.  Android does have a good set of 
integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with google 
docs.  It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to an android 
phone and see your google persona inhabit it.

I use:

GMail:  more so since I got the phone...  not my primary email
Google Calendar: yes
Google Maps: yes
GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the value of 
that?)  but with mashup data the potential is very intersting.  Here is an 
interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/
Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well.
Google Youtube: of course.
Google Chrome browser: yes.  its not my primary browser because I like 
firefox's plugins.  But I have nothing against it.
Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer.
Google Docs: Yes,  and they have some real power in their ability to make web 
forms that populate data in a spreadsheet.  Part of the google ecology is 
waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up.
Google Images: some.  
Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through.  Take that new york times...
Google Shopping: what? never.
Google Books: a handful of times.  Who has the time to read anymore?
Google Scholar: rarely see books.
Google Patents: never
Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun.
Google Adsense: I've known those who do.
Google Picassa: yes.  And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to 
picassa.
Google Talk: seldom.
Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point.
Google App Engine: Some.  I like the idea of a painless build your own web 
application platform.  And the google integration here gives you a whole crowd 
of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already belonged there 
through Google Accounts.
Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) accounts 
otherwise confusion ensues.
Google Maps API: haven't.
Google Data API: haven't.
Google Apps: haven't but may soon.
Google Groups: mangles attachments.
Google Code: as a consumer.
Google Wave: looks like a splash.
Google Finance: no.
Android: brings them together.


But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful.  Total 
integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation.  I think 
one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as they do 
over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful.

Re: walled garden another google product:
http://www.dataliberation.org/


--joshua

GMail:
Google Calendar:
Google Maps:
GoogleEarth:
Google Translate:
Google Youtube:
Google Chrome browser:
Blogspot.com:
Google Docs:
Google Images:
Google News:
Google Shopping:
Google Books:
Google Scholar:
Google Patents:
Google Sketchup:
Google Adsense:
Google Picassa:
Google Talk:
Google Chrome OS:
Google App Engine:
Google Accounts:
Google Maps API:
Google Data API:
Google Apps:
Google Groups:
Google Code:
Google Wave:
Google Finance:


> Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail

> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes.
> Google Calendar:  Yes, most excellent.
> Google Maps: Almost exclusively.
> GoogleEarth:  Often.
> Google Translate: Occasionally
> Google Youtube: Rarely.
> Google Chrome browser:  No.
> Blogspot.com: Often.
> Google Docs:  Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing.
> Google Images:  Often
> Google News: Some
> Google Shopping: Some
> Google Books: Some
> Google Scholar: Some
> Google Patents: Some
> Google Sketchup: Some
> Google Adsense: Never
> Google Picassa: Rarely.
> Google Talk:  Rarely.
> Google Chrome OS: No.
> Google App Engine: Barely.
> Google Maps API:  Once.
> Google Data API: No but I want to.
> Google Apps: Not
> Google Groups: Some.
> Google Code: Only to download.
> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break.
> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, 
> motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends.

On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

> Scary how much I live in the Google ecology.  I don't use it in a very 
> integrated way either.  But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do I 
> need?  Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet.
> 
> Me:
> 
> Search: Always
> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes.   Google Login allows you to use 
> your own e-mail (not-Gmail).
> Google Calendar:  Yes, most excellent.
> Google Maps: Almost exclusively.
> GoogleEarth:  Often.
> Google Translate: Occasionally
> Google Youtube: Rarely.
> Google Chrome browser:  No.
> Blogspot.com: Often.
> Google Docs:  Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing.
> Google Images:  Often
> Google News: Some
> Google Shopping: Some
> Google Books: Some
> Google Scholar: Some
> Google Patents: Some
> Google Sketchup: Some
> Google Adsense: Never
> Google Picassa: Rarely.
> Google Talk:  Rarely.
> Google 

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

[Joshua Thorp]

It is on the other hand important to note that google has a public 
exhibitionist side,  trying to get us all to all hang out (if you are 
embarrassed you probably shouldn't be doing it see: 
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091208/0221047243.shtml).  Here is a rant on 
the privacy issues of Buzz which looks huge. Social networking is putting 
people in the deep end of exposure without warning or careful thinking about 
the implications: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-10451428-256.html


We use a google groups e-mail list and as far as I recall zip files are not 
allowed and starlogo TNG text files end up with all of their  characters 
replaced with =20 which isn't helpful (i.e. it breaks the file).  I'm sure this 
is the nature of the e-mail technology they are using but still isn't helpful.


--joshua

On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Josh, 
> 
> Google groups mangles attachments?  Tell me a little more about that. 
> 
> As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise.  The help
> mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel
> of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning.  
> 
> Nick 
> 
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
> Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu)
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Joshua Thorp 
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
>> Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives
>> 
>> 
>> The android phone doesn't make the list?
>> Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration.  Apple would
> never let that happen to their products.  Android does have a good set of
> integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with
> google docs.  It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to
> an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it.
>> 
>> I use:
>> 
>> GMail:  more so since I got the phone...  not my primary email
>> Google Calendar: yes
>> Google Maps: yes
>> GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the
> value of that?)  but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. 
> Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/
>> Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well.
>> Google Youtube: of course.
>> Google Chrome browser: yes.  its not my primary browser because I like
> firefox's plugins.  But I have nothing against it.
>> Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer.
>> Google Docs: Yes,  and they have some real power in their ability to make
> web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet.  Part of the google ecology
> is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up.
>> Google Images: some.  
>> Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through.  Take that new york
> times...
>> Google Shopping: what? never.
>> Google Books: a handful of times.  Who has the time to read anymore?
>> Google Scholar: rarely see books.
>> Google Patents: never
>> Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun.
>> Google Adsense: I've known those who do.
>> Google Picassa: yes.  And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to
> picassa.
>> Google Talk: seldom.
>> Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point.
>> Google App Engine: Some.  I like the idea of a painless build your own
> web application platform.  And the google integration here gives you a
> whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already
> belonged there through Google Accounts.
>> Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging)
> accounts otherwise confusion ensues.
>> Google Maps API: haven't.
>> Google Data API: haven't.
>> Google Apps: haven't but may soon.
>> Google Groups: mangles attachments.
>> Google Code: as a consumer.
>> Google Wave: looks like a splash.
>> Google Finance: no.
>> Android: brings them together.
>> 
>> 
>> But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. 
> Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. 
> I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as
> they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful.
>> 
>> Re: walled garden another google product:
>> http://www.dataliberation.org/
>> 
>> 
>> --joshua
>> 
>> GMail:
>> Google Calendar:
>> Google Maps:
>> GoogleEarth:
>> Go

Re: [FRIAM] google's public data explorer

[Joshua Thorp]

Nice blog Robert,  looks like a "must follow" for me.

--joshua




On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Robert Holmes wrote:

> I'm having way too much fun with Google's public data explorer. For example, 
> Here's some interesting facts about causes of death in the US that I came up 
> with after 10 minutes tinkering (if you live in a two storey house and you've 
> got a full medicine cabinet, watch out...)
> 
> Anyone else got any graphics they want to share?
> 
> -- R
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Re: [FRIAM] Snow Leopard compatibility

[Joshua Thorp]

I have been using Snow Leopard since it came out.  I have had to replace every 
part of my development environment (okay, not vi) to make things work.  The 64 
bit/32 bit stuff is a problem when using native libraries in Java.   If the 
library hasn't made the transition your java may have to move back to 32bit.

Other tools like parallels need to be upgraded, etc.

At this point though I think most everything is working for me.

Owen Densmore  wrote:

>When Snow Leopard first came out, there were several  
>incompatibilities.  It's been a year, so I bet the compatibilities  
>have been resolved .. but I thought I'd check in with others:
>
>Does Snow Leopard work OK for you?  Any problems?
>
> -- Owen
>
>
>
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[FRIAM] Jon Stewart talks CAS

[Joshua Thorp]

In a particularly tortured debate with a "water boarding makes us safer" 
advocate, Marc Thiessen, Jon Stewart argues "Complex Adaptive System" as a 
reason not to torture, due to unforeseen consequences.  Its a half hour I'll 
never get back, so you are warned,  but it is interesting to hear CAS used in 
an argument.

If you value your time, best to start 7:00 minutes into the third part:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-march-9-2010/exclusive---marc-thiessen-extended-interview-pt--3


--joshua





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Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

[Joshua Thorp]

Interesting article regarding making an argument based on the values of
your opposition instead of your own.  Makes sense but as is pointed out so
hard to follow through on because why argue if not because of your own
values?  Where are our shared values?   Are these the ones at the bottom
center of the canoe?

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/02/the-simple-psychological-trick-to-political-persuasion/515181/?utm_source=atlfb

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:53 AM, glen ☣  wrote:

> On 02/02/2017 08:49 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> > when do you know something like that is fully baked.
>
> Well, we know the answer to that is "never".  We only need it to be baked
> enough for some use case.  If your use case is to trick someone into
> thinking something that's false, then the baking need only go so far as
> Gary's point, to satisfy the need for drama.  This is why avid readers
> insist that books engage your imagination more than TV or movies.  It's a
> blessing and a curse that our minds fill in the blanks for us.
>
>   http://www.brainhq.com/brain-resources/brain-teasers/scrambled-text
>
> --
> ☣ glen
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Blockchain Just Became Obsolete. The Future is Hashgraph | Squawker

[Joshua Thorp]

>In thunder token, the protocol proposes a split set-up so that
transactions are confirmed very quickly, with the blockchain only being
used in the case of emergencies. The rest of the time, thunder token will
use something a little less familiar – a system of agents that follows the
direction of a "leader" to vote on which transactions are made according to
the rules.

Agents following rules under the direction of a leader Interesting.
But how do you ensure the agents are actually following the rules?

--joshua




On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> https://www.coindesk.com/cornell-professor-claims-
> blockchain-advances-thunder-token-debut/
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Tom Johnson  wrote:
>
>> https://squawker.org/technology/blockchain-just-became-
>> obsolete-the-future-is-hashgraph/
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Just FYI - This message may not have been sent by:

[Joshua Thorp]

What is the stunt?  

Is it just suppressing the warning message?

--joshua

On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:
> It's flagged as possibly not from you in the gmail web interface.
> 
> -- rec --
> 
> 
> And Minimalist, with the css I sent before, is not flagged so the stunt works.
> 
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[FRIAM] Privacy in the workplace

[Joshua Thorp]

Interesting article about the need for privacy in the creative workplace.

--joshua

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/opinion/sunday/the-rise-of-the-new-groupthink.html


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Re: [FRIAM] Complex Numbers .. the end of the line?

[Joshua Thorp]

Thanks Roger, interesting paper.  

I have always been fascinated at the relationship between the language of a 
mathematics and corresponding science that can be described with it.

--joshua

On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

> http://geocalc.clas.asu.edu/pdf/OerstedMedalLecture.pdf
> 
> -- rec --
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> Integers, Rationals, Reals .. these scalars seemed to be enough for quite a 
> while.  Addition, subtraction, multiplication, division all seemed to do well 
> in that domain.
> 
> But then came the embarrassing questions that involved the square root of 
> negative quantities and the brilliant "invention" of complex numbers (a + bi) 
> where i = √-1 which allows the fundamental theorem of algebra .. i.e. that a 
> polynomial of degree n has n roots .. but the roots must be allowed to be 
> complex.
> 
> The obvious question is "what next"?  I.e. if we look at complex numbers at 
> 2-tuples with a peculiar algebra, shouldn't we expect 3-tuples and more that 
> are needed for operations beyond polynomial equations?
> 
> This led me to think of linear algebra .. after all, there we are comfortable 
> with n-tuples and we can apply any algebra we'd like to them (likely limiting 
> them to be fields).
> 
> Wikipedia shows this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_numbers#Matrix_representation_of_complex_numbers
> which illustrates an interesting job of integrating complex numbers into 
> matrix form, not surprising 2x2, although the matrices are the primitives in 
> this algebra, not 2-tuples.
> 
> 3D transforms do get us into quaternions which wikipedia 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_numbers#Generalizations_and_related_notions
> considers a generalization of complex numbers.
> 
> So the question is: are there higher order numbers beyond complex needed for 
> algebraic operations? Naturally n-tuples show up in linear algebra, over the 
> fields N,I,Q,Z and C.  But are there "primitive" numbers beyond C that linear 
> algebra, for example, might include?
> 
> What's next?  And what does it resolve?
> 
>-- Owen
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[FRIAM] Windows on an iPad

[Joshua Thorp]

Very interesting, running a cloud based windows machine on your iPad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html





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Re: [FRIAM] MediaShift . Special Series: Cutting the Cord to Cable TV | PBS

[Joshua Thorp]

We gave up on TV about 8 years ago.  Haven't looked back.  Of course I care 
very little for sports and only miss it for big political moments like state of 
the union or presidential debates.

I have noticed that my tolerance for advertisements is very low and watching TV 
at the in-laws house can be very mesmerizing as every ad is new to me…

--joshua

On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> This was on Randy Burge's Google + stream:
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/02/special-series-cutting-the-cord-to-cable-tv052.html
> 
> Basically a series about getting rid of Cable/Satellite TV:
> With rising cable and satellite bills, thrifty Americans pinched by the 
> recession have considered cutting the cord to cable. The savings can be 
> enormous, even if the tech know-how can be daunting when creating your new 
> cable-free TV-watching environment. So MediaShift has decided to devote a 
> week of editorial to cord-cutting, with our in-depth guide, first-person 
> accounts, and even a defense of cable TV. And we want to hear from you about 
> your experience -- whether you like cable or loathe it. Sharing your setup 
> and your situation as a cord-cutter might help others take the plunge. Here 
> are all the stories in our special series.
> 
> Our monthly is $80+ and HUGELY under utilized.  We never use live TV, we 
> always TiVo.  The closest to current content (i.e. recorded w/in 24 hrs) is 
> watching is ESPN's Around the Horn and Pardon the Interruption.  We also 
> watch a recent show, The Chew, a sorta foodie reality TV, but generally a day 
> or so late.  And football games during the season.
> 
> The majority of the rest TV we watch is internet media downloads, then 
> uploaded to the TiVo via pyTiVo, which has the advantage of serving avi, mp4, 
> ... to the TiVo.  Mainly older TV series like Boston Legal, Star Treck (TNG & 
> DS9), and so on.
> 
> The main problem we have, therefore, is just a few current shows, football 
> games, and one-offs like the Academy Awards and a few golf tournaments.
> 
> So: how do YOU handle getting off cable?  My guess everyone has one "must 
> have" that simply isn't on the internet one way or another.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] A Good Question - Should the United States join OPEC?

[Joshua Thorp]

This sounds right to me.  There is a lot of finger wagging at Iran for not 
having domestic capacity for petroleum refinement even though they are a crude 
exporter.  So I guess capacity works both ways.  The other thing I know is 
currently a hot topic is natural gas production.  I believe the US has 
increased its production quite a bit lately and is likely to have a lot more in 
the future.


On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hugh Trenchard wrote:

> Just as a brief follow up, it seems to me one of the major factors in this is 
> that U.S. refining capacity has increased so that there is less need to 
> import refined petroleum products.  I haven't researched this in any detail 
> and I stand to be corrected on all my assertions, but it seems to me it's not 
> as though there are any new sources of US domestic supply or significant 
> increase in technological ability to extract previously hard to obtain oil, 
> and likely only marginal reduction in demand. There may be some, but my 
> thought is the hype on this is rather misleading.  Again I don't have the 
> figures, but my guess is that the vast majority of US crude imports likely 
> still come from Canada, Mexico, and other western hemisphere nations, which 
> the U.S. refining companies refine and re-sell as petroleum products, both 
> for domestic use and to export abroad.
>  
> The link below shows some of the definitions used in the petroleum/fuels 
> industry. From my skeptical standpoint, the hype could mislead the American 
> public toward a false sense of security.  I suppose if it stimulates the 
> economy, then that's good, but if it gets people guzzling more gas, then it's 
> really just a fool's game.
>  
> http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/TblDefs/pet_move_imp_tbldef2.asp
>  
> From the link: "Petroleum products are obtained from the processing of crude 
> oil (including lease condensate), natural gas, and other hydrocarbon 
> compounds. Petroleum products include unfinished oils, liquefied petroleum 
> gases, pentanes plus, aviation gasoline, motor gasoline, naphtha-type jet 
> fuel, kerosene-type jet fuel, kerosene, distillate fuel oil, residual fuel 
> oil, petrochemical feedstocks, special naphthas, lubricants, waxes, petroleum 
> coke, asphalt, road oil, still gas, and miscellaneous products."
> - Original Message -
> From: Russ Abbott
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Cc: Hugh Trenchard
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A Good Question - Should the United States join OPEC?
> 
> We exported more petroleum products, not more oil. We are still net oil 
> importers.
>  
> -- Russ Abbott
> _
>   Professor, Computer Science
>   California State University, Los Angeles
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> From 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/us-becomes-net-exporter-o_n_857085.html
> 
> While some Americans cut back on driving as gas prices soar, the U.S. has 
> become a net exporter of fuel for the first time in nearly 20 years.
> 
> According to data from the Energy Department,starting last November -- with 
> the exception of the month of January -- the U.S. began exporting more 
> petroleum products than it imported.
> 
> 
> This is not the source I got the idea from, its been in the news quite a bit 
> lately, this is just the first google hit I tried.
> 
> The theory is that between the recession (thus less use of fuel, both supply 
> side and demand), conservation/efficiency, and more recent hi-tech oil/gas 
> exploitation (horizontal drilling), the US consumption has dropped and the 
> production has increased, causing a net surplus. 
> 
> It certainly is surprising.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Hugh Trenchard  wrote:
> Where did you see that the US is now a net oil exporter?  The attachments 
> below are 2008 and 2009, but I suspect the picture hasn't changed much since 
> then (US imports 75% of its oil for consumption). I believe I saw reference 
> to "potential exporter" in the NY Times article. 
>  
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/07/26/GR2008072601599.html
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdsdigital/4056035804/
> - Original Message -
> From: Owen Densmore
> To: Complexity Coffee Group
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:14 AM
> Subject: [FRIAM] A Good Question - Should the United States join OPEC?
> 
> Now for something completely different:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/26/opinion/sunday/friedman-a-good-question.html
> Basically whether or not the US should join OPEC now that it is a net oil 
> exporter.  
> 
> Insane as it sounds, there is some reason in the discussion.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> ===

[FRIAM] Browser tabs as work stack

[Joshua Thorp]

Anyone else notice that closing the tabs in your browser in the evening is like 
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[FRIAM] JS/HTML/CSS tool of the day

[Joshua Thorp]

This one is for Owen but others may find it interesting:
http://jsfiddle.net/

Lets you explore javascript frameworks  with JS (or coffeescript), HTML, CSS 
and result panels in a webpage… 

Pretty awesome.

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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] This week

[Joshua Thorp]

FRIAM or WEDTECH?

I'm guessing *TECH
;)

I've never known Friam to move...

--joshua
On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

> I'm open to either day.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Edward Angel  wrote:
> Is there any sentiment for moving FRIAM to Tue or Thu this week?
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: iClarified - Apple News - Samsung Found Guilty of Copying Apple, Ordered to Pay Over $1 Billion in Damages

[Joshua Thorp]

Ugh.  But can you appeal the thinking of a jury?

On Aug 29, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

> The plot thickens:
> 
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828225612963
> 
> The jury foreman describes (in a youtubed interview) his solution to the 
> "prior art" problems which consumed the first day of jury deliberations:  the 
> prior art didn't run on the same processor as Apple's art, so it couldn't be 
> prior art!  Once he'd persuaded the rest of the jury of this doubly wrong 
> (doesn't matter which, if any, processor the prior art runs on, and Apple's 
> phones do run on the same ARM processors as Samsung's) misinterpretation, the 
> rest of the verdict was a piece of cake.
> 
> There was an interview with Walter Isaacson on CSPAN last night about the 
> biography, Steve Jobs, Apple, etc.  Very worth watching if you get a chance.
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

[Joshua Thorp]

But how do we know this?  How would you expect a non-extemist to be heard?  Its 
not like a non-extremist is going to blow up an extremist group…  Sort of by 
definition.

Plenty of people have spoken out against the events this week.  But what more 
can they do?  The bombs are news worthy.  The people speaking out against the 
bombs just don't have the same bang.

Goes of course for catholics as well.  I constantly hear about another priest 
having raped another set of children.  I don't hear much about the good acts of 
catholics,  though I assume their must be plenty -- just doesn't make the news 
the same way.  

Where have the leadership and majority been on that issue?  I keep hearing 
about Bishops that have covered up for this or that bad priest,  but are there 
Bishops speaking out against this behavior?  I bet there are but I don't hear 
it very often.  And when I do it is said almost matter-of-fact-ly like, 'of 
course this is wrong'.  

Very much in the same way we hear muslims speaking about extremist violence, 
'of course this wrong'.  It just doesn't stick the same way as the images of 
violence.  

--joshua

On Sep 14, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> My interest is not the extremists, but the fact that the leaders and majority 
> do not protest against them, do not make themselves heard.
> 
> So it is about religion, but it could equally be about the NRA or racism or 
> human rights or whatever.  Where the majority is silent.  And the leaders do 
> not lead.
> 
> Not that I don't understand the religious issues, and your clear points 
> against them (and with which I am sympathetic), but that I'm looking at 
> another, broader issue that seems to appear not only in religions but many 
> other areas.
> 
> Is it not striking to you that the leaders and majority are silent?  We know 
> many Muslims here in Santa Fe who are sane and gracious.  They deplore the 
> extreme events. But they have not yet found a platform for inserting Islam, 
> the Good Parts, and their deploring the extremists, into the public discourse.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Douglas Roberts  
> wrote:
> Let's see if I understand you correctly, Owen. 
> 
> There are a bunch of fundamentalist Islamists all up in arms shouting "Allahu 
> Akhbar" whilst burning down our embassies and killing our diplomats because 
> there is a film out that is derogatory of the Muslim religion.
> 
> And this is not about religion?
> 
> I don't see it.
> 
> Or you don't see it.
> 
> What I do see is that there is one very large disconnect on this particular 
> issue.
> 
> --Doug
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> I do not believe this to be a religious issue at all.  The question is of 
> groups and institutions.
> 
> When a faction of a group becomes apparently insane, do we not expect the 
> entire group, its leaders and majority, to speak up and to mend?
> 
> When civil rights were an issue in the south, many of us (I was at Georgia 
> Tech) spoke up, and indeed many churches of all stripes did so.  Many NRA 
> members also speak up about the extreme position the organization takes.  
> Examples abound.  And yes, I consider this a Complexity domain, much like 
> Miller's Applause model.
> 
> Isn't this possibly a cultural issue?  Possibly regional?  The largest Muslim 
> population is not Libya or Egypt or even all of the middle east, its 
> Indonesia.  They do not appear to have this issue.
> 
> So my question stands as Kofi stated:
> "Where are the leaders?  Where is the Majority?  Nobody speaks up."
> NOT the religious leaders but the leaders of the culture in which the 
> religion lies.
> 
> And Hussein, forgive me, but your inward religious stance has nothing to do 
> with speaking out against injustice.  It is not a religious issue, but a 
> civic, cultural one.
> 
>-- Owen
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[FRIAM] CPD debates pages

[Joshua Thorp]

The site I've been working on this summer just went live on youtube:

The live debate stream should be available there this evening (if everything 
goes right!).

http://www.youtube.com/thevoiceof

Check it out.

Also on yahoo and aol:
http://news.yahoo.com/thevoiceof/
http://thevoiceof.aol.com/

cheers,
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Re: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?

[Joshua Thorp]

I think you just replace '9' with 'n-1' in Dean or Frank's answer and you have 
a general proof, for n>=2.

I suppose you may need to convince yourself that a number like n^k - 1 == 
(n-1)*n^(k-1) + (n-1)*n^(k-2) + … + (n-1)*(k-k).  

--joshua

On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:

> May be I should reframe the question.
> 
> How do you prove there isn't a system of numbers to base N where it doesn't 
> work?
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert
> 
> On 10/8/12 11:00 AM, Tom Carter wrote:
>> Robert -
>> 
>>   There's a reasonably good discussion of this here:
>> 
>>  http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58518.html
>> 
>>   Thanks . . .
>> 
>> tom
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Robert J. Cordingley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I probably should know this...
>>> 
>>> So when you rearrange the digits of a number (>9) and take the difference, 
>>> it is divisible by nine.  A result that sometimes points to accounting 
>>> errors.  If the numbers are not base 10 the result is divisible by (base-1).
>>> 
>>> What is the associated theorem for this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?

[Joshua Thorp]

Not sure about that.  This whole thing (at least to begin with) has to do with 
writing numbers in the place notation. Not sure what this would mean in 
rational, irrational or imaginary base system. I think integers were implied in 
this. ;)

--joshua

On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:

> ...and I guess (base) n can be rational, irrational or even imaginary.
> Thanks
> Robert
> 
> On 10/8/12 12:02 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:
>> I think you just replace '9' with 'n-1' in Dean or Frank's answer and you 
>> have a general proof, for n>=2.
>> 
>> I suppose you may need to convince yourself that a number like n^k - 1 == 
>> (n-1)*n^(k-1) + (n-1)*n^(k-2) + … + (n-1)*(k-k).
>> 
>> --joshua
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
>> 
>>> May be I should reframe the question.
>>> 
>>> How do you prove there isn't a system of numbers to base N where it doesn't 
>>> work?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> On 10/8/12 11:00 AM, Tom Carter wrote:
>>>> Robert -
>>>> 
>>>>   There's a reasonably good discussion of this here:
>>>> 
>>>>  http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58518.html
>>>> 
>>>>   Thanks . . .
>>>> 
>>>> tom
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Robert J. Cordingley  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I probably should know this...
>>>>> 
>>>>> So when you rearrange the digits of a number (>9) and take the 
>>>>> difference, it is divisible by nine.  A result that sometimes points to 
>>>>> accounting errors.  If the numbers are not base 10 the result is 
>>>>> divisible by (base-1).
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the associated theorem for this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Robert
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Continuous implementation of Game of Life

[Joshua Thorp]

Cool from a different perspective.  Discrete game of life implemented in the 
discrete game of life.  Its turtles all the way the down…

http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/05/turtles-all-the-way-down-or-gliders-or-glider-turtles/

--joshua

On Oct 12, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Russ Abbott wrote:

> Yes. Very cool!
>  
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> 
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Stephen Guerin  
> wrote:
> Discrete rules of Game of Life converted to continuous. Very cool:
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJe9H6qS82I
> 
> Paper here:
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Re: [FRIAM] Udacity - HTML5 Game Development Course (CS 255)

[Joshua Thorp]

Which was the second generation of programmers?


On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> Nifty: Udacity has a HTML5/JS/CSS class that builds a game as the structure 
> of the class.
> 
> That's interesting to me because I found so many of the second generation of 
> programmers got into programming via games.
> 
> http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/cs255/CourseRev/1
> 
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> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

[Joshua Thorp]

"... I wonder if being incompetent violates Google's official corporate policy? 
"

Hah, good one.  Made me laugh.  Tough having people handle the job of a python 
script.  We would never say the python script was incompetent.  Google probably 
better go back to that method of customer support…  As Steve (or Chaung Tzu?) 
would say you don't get mad at the empty boat.

--joshua

Being humble

If a man is crossing a river and an empty boat collides with his own skiff, 
even though he be a bad-tempered man he will not become very angry. 
But if he sees a man in the boat, he will shout at him to steer clear. 
If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, and yet again, and begin 
cursing. 
And all because there is somebody in the boat. 
Yet if the boat were empty, he would not be shouting, and not angry.

If you can empty your own boat crossing the river of the world, 
no one will oppose you, no one will seek to harm you

Who can free himself from achievement, and from fame, descend and be lost amid 
the masses of men? 
He will flow like Tao, unseen, he will go about like Life itself with no name 
and no home. 
Simple is he, without distinction. To all appearances he is a fool. 
His steps leave no trace. He has no power. He achieves nothing, has no 
reputation.

Since he judges no one, no one judges him. 
Such is the perfect man: 
His boat is empty. 
(20:2, 4, pp. 168-171)

The man who has some respect for his person keeps his carcass out of sight, 
hides himself as perfectly as he can. 
(23:2, pp. 187)



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> Sheesh, it just keeps getting better!  I think Google is qualified to run 
> LANL.
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

[Joshua Thorp]

No you are right, I was mostly trying to take a dig at Google in the pile on.  
But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to 
navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers).  So my whole 
line of thought turns out to be not that deep.  

Guess I was the one perpetuating an empty argument….  Don't get mad there 
wasn't anyone at home.

;)
--joshua


On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:

> > Joshua Thorp
>> We would never say the python script was incompetent.
> Would you say IBM Watson/Deep Blue is incompetent at Jeopardy/Chess after it 
> wipes the floor with the best human players in the world?
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Dropbox big-time

[Joshua Thorp]

I would say 300GB still seems to be a lot of data for the cloud.  S3 quotes 
28.50 a month just for the storage with ~5 bucks a month if you do around 50GB 
up and 50 GB down per month which is probably actually more than you are likely 
to be doing.

Their glacier product which does not have the same access but could serve for 
backup costs $3/month for that + 5 bucks a month for 50 GB up and 50 GB down.

I sort of expect s3 to be the best option as many of these other services are 
built on top of them.  There are a bunch of projects out there that turn s3 
into a cloud storage tool, some free though you are obviously paying s3 for the 
data you store/transfer.

--joshua

On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Mark Suazo wrote:

> I'd like to find a "cloud" service for images - problem is, I'd got 
> approximately 300GB of images going back to 2001. Some duplication, but 
> mostly lots of RAW files. Dropbox wants $500/year. I need a more affordable 
> solution  Any ideas?
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Arlo Barnes  wrote:
> I got Dropbox mainly for collaboration (sharing datasets and R files), and 
> now I use it as the central storage location for all my photos - they go 
> straight from the card (which is then cleared to make room) to Dropbox 
> through it's automatic transfer function. I have had no problems, although 
> the occasional horror story of individual files being lost without a trace 
> has prompted me to start uploading them to a photoblog.
> I use Chrome sync[h] but because the computers I use are generally somewhat 
> slow (especially with the number of tabs I am in the habit of opening) I 
> don't often use the extensions that are synchronized. I am not impressed with 
> the bookmark sync[h], as old folders that have been deleted on one computer 
> are often restored from another. Then again, I have somewhat given up hope on 
> keeping track of things I want to investigate with bookmarks anyway, as I 
> create just too many. To-do lists have supplanted them for the most part; I 
> still use Chrome's "save this window as a folder-full of bookmarks" function 
> to save a browsing/work session for a time when my computer is less bogged 
> down.
> For the most part, though, I have been trying to eliminate the need for 
> backups altogether. As a student with not much budget for purchasing memory, 
> and one that uses temporarily loaned computers and ones that break after only 
> a year or two of use, I find it much easier to use online services for most 
> program and data storage - using Google Docs rather than Word or Open Office, 
> for instance. It makes collaboration and sharing a lot easier, too - I can 
> worry less about file formats. To pick another example, instead of using 
> iTunes or WinAmp or VLC (although I also have the latter for miscellaneous 
> purposes) with a music library I use Grooveshark.
> There are still many things that need to be offline due to the paucity of 
> Internet access in my house and sometimes at school, but many things can just 
> be re-found - it is easier for me to re-download my ebooks, and various 
> programs (Pidgin, GIMP, Inkscape, Notepad++, Chrome of course, a tuner 
> program, and others including those mentioned above [Dropbox and VLC]) than 
> to find and transfer them on a jumpdrive or such. However, I noticed I have 
> also taken increasingly to putting all my files in one place - a folder on 
> the desktop - rather than using My Documents. I even run programs that do not 
> need to alter the registry and therefore self-install, such as tkMOO, from 
> the desktop. With all this centrally located it is easier to pick up and move 
> shop should I need to.
> And now I have a website I can put stuff I don't mind being public in one 
> place, too.
> 
> This all might be oblique to your question since I am not using the pay 
> Dropbox, or Dropbox in a big way at all.
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Dropbox big-time

[Joshua Thorp]

Yeah I agree with this,  but hard drives do fail so data should be on multiple 
drives and should also be located in more than one location so a fire or theft 
doesn't lead to losing everything.

Not that I follow this in practice but in theory…

--joshua

On Jan 15, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Joseph Spinden wrote:

> My "solution" is external hard drives:
> 1. one-time purchase cost
> 2. relatively inexpensive
> 3. not dependent upon the cloud servers.  I am not willing to chance a 
> 1-in-a-100-years failure..
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 1/15/13 9:14 AM, Mark Suazo wrote:
>> I'd like to find a "cloud" service for images - problem is, I'd got 
>> approximately 300GB of images going back to 2001. Some duplication, but 
>> mostly lots of RAW files. Dropbox wants $500/year. I need a more affordable 
>> solution  Any ideas?
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Arlo Barnes  wrote:
>> I got Dropbox mainly for collaboration (sharing datasets and R files), and 
>> now I use it as the central storage location for all my photos - they go 
>> straight from the card (which is then cleared to make room) to Dropbox 
>> through it's automatic transfer function. I have had no problems, although 
>> the occasional horror story of individual files being lost without a trace 
>> has prompted me to start uploading them to a photoblog.
>> I use Chrome sync[h] but because the computers I use are generally somewhat 
>> slow (especially with the number of tabs I am in the habit of opening) I 
>> don't often use the extensions that are synchronized. I am not impressed 
>> with the bookmark sync[h], as old folders that have been deleted on one 
>> computer are often restored from another. Then again, I have somewhat given 
>> up hope on keeping track of things I want to investigate with bookmarks 
>> anyway, as I create just too many. To-do lists have supplanted them for the 
>> most part; I still use Chrome's "save this window as a folder-full of 
>> bookmarks" function to save a browsing/work session for a time when my 
>> computer is less bogged down.
>> For the most part, though, I have been trying to eliminate the need for 
>> backups altogether. As a student with not much budget for purchasing memory, 
>> and one that uses temporarily loaned computers and ones that break after 
>> only a year or two of use, I find it much easier to use online services for 
>> most program and data storage - using Google Docs rather than Word or Open 
>> Office, for instance. It makes collaboration and sharing a lot easier, too - 
>> I can worry less about file formats. To pick another example, instead of 
>> using iTunes or WinAmp or VLC (although I also have the latter for 
>> miscellaneous purposes) with a music library I use Grooveshark.
>> There are still many things that need to be offline due to the paucity of 
>> Internet access in my house and sometimes at school, but many things can 
>> just be re-found - it is easier for me to re-download my ebooks, and various 
>> programs (Pidgin, GIMP, Inkscape, Notepad++, Chrome of course, a tuner 
>> program, and others including those mentioned above [Dropbox and VLC]) than 
>> to find and transfer them on a jumpdrive or such. However, I noticed I have 
>> also taken increasingly to putting all my files in one place - a folder on 
>> the desktop - rather than using My Documents. I even run programs that do 
>> not need to alter the registry and therefore self-install, such as tkMOO, 
>> from the desktop. With all this centrally located it is easier to pick up 
>> and move shop should I need to.
>> And now I have a website I can put stuff I don't mind being public in one 
>> place, too.
>> 
>> This all might be oblique to your question since I am not using the pay 
>> Dropbox, or Dropbox in a big way at all.
>> 
>> -Arlo James Barnes
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition!

[Joshua Thorp]

lol

On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> Couldn't have said it better myself.
> 
> --Doug
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Eric Charles  wrote:
> Nick,
> It is a distillation / satire of several of the threads that I only skimmed 
> briefly over the past few months. Doug and others have all been working no 
> installing linux (the penguin) on various phones, as well as dealing with 
> various aspects of Google's android operating system. On a related note, some 
> companies have recently gotten into the habit of calling what is clearly a 
> bug in their program a "feature", so as to try to avoid bad press / any 
> obligation to fix it quickly and efficiently. On a related note, companies 
> try not to admit something is a bug unless a lot of people have complained 
> about it, which leads to weird conflicts where the company (probably lying) 
> tries to deny it has heard about problems that people have been reporting 
> left and right all over the web. Oh, and apparently some people think they 
> can pester these companies into doing the right thing. 
> 
> Beyond that, it is at least as coherent as most Zippy comics. 
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Charles
> Assistant Professor of Psychology
> Penn State, Altoona
> 
> From: "Nicholas Thompson" 
> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:44:19 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition!
> 
> This one of those moments in my life with FRIAM that I live for.  A series of 
> communications in which I have not an effing clue what any of you are talking 
> about. 
> 
>  
> Some of you have, in the past, been good at doing translations between 
> Thompson-speak and the worst excesses of Friam=speak.  Can anybody translate 
> in the other direction? 
> 
>  
> N
> 
>  
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:43 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition!
> 
>  
> Redux:
> 
> 
> 
> Apologies to ...
> 
> well...
> 
> ALL of you, but Doug in particular!
> 
> and special thanks to Josh for the inspiration.
> 
>  
>  
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor

[Joshua Thorp]

Nick it sounds like you are on the right track.  

I would look at the RAM (memory) consumption first.  If you can avoid filling 
it up, thus causing your computer to swap to disk, your computer will probably 
run a lot better.  Easier said than done! But finding these background tasks 
that you don't need and uninstalling/disabling them is worth it to keep your 
computer running a little longer.

Also reading your email on the command line will help…  But I wouldn't 
recommend it, you'll miss all the sight gags. :)

--joshua


On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> BUT, I do have a bridge I'd consider selling...
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013 8:52 PM, "Douglas Roberts"  wrote:
> Help someone who relies on Dell? Can't be done, my friend.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013 8:48 PM, "Nicholas Thompson"  
> wrote:
> HEY!
> 
> This my thread and the price of admission is actually being helpful with the 
> problem. Please don’t jam this channel. 
> 
>  
> 
> After you have said something helpful, THEN you can be ribald. 
> 
>  
> 
> n
> 
>  
> 
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:39 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor
> 
>  
> 
> How about Trojan cracks? Sounds like rich earth, ripe for tilling.
> 
> Merle, what are your thoughts?
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013 8:34 PM, "Nicholas Thompson"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> My Dell Studio (yeah, yeah, save the Mac cracks) has been cranky of late, 
> particularly when streaming stuff, and since I am reluctant to put out a 
> couple of hundred dollars to have it “tuned up”, I have been trying to see 
> what I can do on my own.  This has led me to the resource monitor, a truly 
> fascinating little gizmo, a couple of levels down in the Task Manager.The 
> help files that are attached to it are pretty lean, and I was wondering if 
> someone knew of a “Resource Monitor  for Idiots” source. 
> 
>  
> 
> One thing that I immediately learned which was STUNNING was that mac I-tunes 
> has a chum that it loads called AppleRemoteDevicesManager.exe which grabs 25 
> percent of your resources off the top and doesn’t let go unless you whack it 
> over the head with a brick.  It’s purpose is to manage your relationship with 
> your mobile devices, but relentlessly demands resources even though you don’t 
> have any mobile devices.   I think of it as essentially an Apple Trojan.  
> (Ok, now, you can make Mac-cracks).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Nick
> 
>  
> 
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> 
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> 
> Clark University
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> 
> http://www.cusf.org
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor

[Joshua Thorp]

Interesting,  but the big difference here would be that Mac and Linux come with 
python installed where windows doesn't.  So updating windows isn't likely to 
have as big an impact,  since presumably you are including python in you 
windows installer and not in you mac or linux one.  Or am I wrong?

--joshua

On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:

> For what it's worth, I'll mention that my primary machine is Windows, but I 
> routinely check the behavior of my projects VPython (vpython.org) and 
> GlowScript (glowscript.org) on Mac and Ubuntu Linux.
> 
> Because it's so common for knowledgeable people to do Windows-bashing, I'll 
> comment that in my efforts over the last 12 years to make VPython work well 
> on all three major platforms, it is Mac and Ubuntu Linux that have regularly 
> broken things with their updates, whereas Windows has maintained backward 
> compatibilty during this entire period, across several major operating system 
> releases.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Nicholas Thompson 
>  wrote:
> Gary, 
> 
>  
> 
> No body has offered because I haven’t asked.  When I worked in a university, 
> we were all neophytes with this stuff – “citizens” is the term Owen uses – 
> and we would trade information all the time, and each of us would get good at 
> some things.  I got good at macros, for instance.  For a while, I had a 
> library of macros that would automatically put a comment I in a student’s 
> paper that described almost any writing error and provide a few examples for 
> how to fix it.  Things like, “When to use Which and when to use That.” Here, 
> I don’t have much to trade, so I wouldn’t ask unless my back was really to 
> the wall, and 200 dollars every few years cannot be conceived of as having 
> one’s back against the wall.  In short, I confine myself to asking people to 
> point me in the right direction, which somebody ALWAYS does.   The problem is 
> usually that I have gotten frustrated and I can’t think, and the solution 
> usually right before my eyes if only somebody will point it out.  And they 
> do.  Sometimes after grumbling, which is fair enough.
> 
>  
> 
> In the present case, somebody has directed me to a toggle that strips all of 
> the eye-candy out of win7 and leaves me with a much more readable, 
> predictable display.  I only wish I had asked for advice three years ago when 
> I bought the machine. 
> 
>  
> 
> Is my memory correct:  you are in Peru.  Watching birds, among other things?  
> If you ever make your way back, I will buy the coffee.  Even if my computer 
> is fast as light.
> 
>  
> 
> Nick
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:03 PM
> 
> 
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor
> 
>  
> 
> Nick,
> 
>  
> 
> Are you still in Santa Fe? I'm not, but if I was, I would help out in person 
> at the next WedTech (hint for those who are there in Santa Fe). Surely your 
> buddies wouldn't charge you $200 for a bit of hands-on help (I'd do it for a 
> cup of coffee :-)
> 
>  
> 
> Gary
> 
>  
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:57 PM, "Nicholas  Thompson"  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks owen.  I did lots of stuff LIKE that, but may not have recognized a 
> helping hand when it was proffered.  With your reassurance I will plunge back 
> in. 
> 
>  
> 
> The response to this inquiry has led me wonder some wonderings about the 
> folks on the list.  Is it the case that:
> 
>  
> 
> (1)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC
> 
> (2)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who has had this sort 
> of problem (=”resource leakage”?).
> 
> (3) I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who is too cheap to 
> pay the 200 bucks to get it fixed by an expert.
> 
> (4)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who is too cheap to 
> pay the 200 bucks to get it fixed by an expert and who also too dumb to know 
> how to use the resource monitor to fix it, myself. 
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor

[Joshua Thorp]

For our mac user friends I just came across this neat little command: purge

It apparently frees up memory in caches.  See this:  
http://osxdaily.com/2012/04/24/free-up-inactive-memory-in-mac-os-x-with-purge-command/

--joshua

On Feb 7, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

> Hi Nick.  Tried to send you a message on your e-mail.  I don't have time to 
> go through your spam thingy.  Sorry.
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
> 
>> 1) I use a PC, because I am cheap and lazy.
>> 
>> 2) This sort of thing is a ubiquitous problem on PCs, and is sometimes a 
>> problem for Macs depending the exact operating system (but I've never seen 
>> it as bad on a Mac as it usually is on a PC). 
>> 
>> 3) I would be suspicious of a store-bought expert helping with this... and 
>> as has been suggested, an expert friend should be cheaper (though not 
>> necessarily free, as it is time consuming). 
>> 
>> 4) I know how to use the resource monitor, and often find that it is not 
>> telling me what I want to know. The long list of Processes often does not 
>> seem to account for what the Performance screen tells me is the CPU Usage 
>> and Physical Memory Usage. I've never really figured out why this 
>> discrepancy occurs... but I haven't tried hard to find out. It is certainly 
>> annoying. 
>> 
>> As suggested, a complete wipe will fix the problem. I have rarely done 
>> this... but usually am thinking about getting a new computer at about the 
>> time the problem is annoying enough that I would consider a wipe... and 
>> switching to a new computer is pretty much the same thing as wiping the old 
>> one. If you do not use too many programs, a wipe might be relatively easy. 
>> 
>> Also worth noting: Depending on your computing needs, $200 is a significant 
>> fraction of the cost of a new machine.  
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Charles
>> Assistant Professor of Psychology
>> Penn State, Altoona
>> 
>> From: "Nicholas Thompson" 
>> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:57:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor
>> 
>> Thanks owen.  I did lots of stuff LIKE that, but may not have recognized a 
>> helping hand when it was proffered.  With your reassurance I will plunge 
>> back in. 
>> 
>> The response to this inquiry has led me wonder some wonderings about the 
>> folks on the list.  Is it the case that:
>> 
>> (1)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC
>> (2)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who has had this 
>> sort of problem (=”resource leakage”?).
>> (3) I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who is too cheap to 
>> pay the 200 bucks to get it fixed by an expert.
>> (4)I am the only person on this list that owns a PC who is too cheap to 
>> pay the 200 bucks to get it fixed by an expert and who also too dumb to know 
>> how to use the resource monitor to fix it, myself. 
>> 
>> 
>> N
>> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:25 AM
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor
>> 
>> Nick: did you google: 
>>how to use the windows resource monitor
>> .. it turned up lots and lots of info.
>> 
>> However, the classic solution to a clean machine is to literally start over: 
>> wipe the disk *after* making a complete copy of its contents to a cheap 
>> disk, and drag stuff back aboard as you need it.
>> 
>> This is augmented by Dropbox: if you don't have it now, you may want to 
>> consider it as a backup of your working stuff, stuff that you can't replace 
>> from other sources and is data you actually created.  It also makes it 
>> trivial to see/work on the files from any of several computers.
>> 
>> Then the "lets start over" approach is much much easier.  Clean system with 
>> one folder of your working repository.
>> 
>> I'm always amazed just how zippy a new system is.
>> 
>> I keep a log of all installs I do, you may start doing that .. it makes it 
>> easy to know what you may need to reinstall if you go the clean install 
>> route. And what may need removing 'cause you don't use it anymore.
>> 
>>   -- Owen
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Nicholas Thompson 
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks for all your suggestions.  Most I actually understood, for which I am 
>> enormously grateful. 
>> 
>> I have the habit of burying my most important question under a lot of verbal 
>> rubble, so I want to ask it again in case you missed it.  Is there any guide 
>> to the Resource Monitor that is more forthcoming than the help files that 
>> come with it?  Stuff like what the various charts and graphs and numbers are 
>> telling me.   
>> 
>> N
>> 
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Windows Resource Monitor

[Joshua Thorp]

Very good advice and nice explanation Owen, thanks!

On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> Just an observation: Things are Getting More Complicated .. when it
> comes to computing.
> 
> I have two friends, both quite bright in terms of computing.  One a
> PC, the other a Mac user.  Both have what I call Rotten System Syndrom
> (RSS).  It is NOT a PC vs Mac issue.  Its just that things are getting
> way too complex.  The cloud, backups, sluggish systems, how to
> uninstall apps, knowing what's on the computer, knowing whether or not
> there is a problem.  It goes on and on.  The same for Linux, Mac,
> Windows.
> 
> I'd love to say: Oh, just get a Mac.  Or Ubuntu.  Or Windows 8.
> 
> Nope.  It all boils down to systems being so complicated that even
> experts have problems.
> 
> My solution has been along the lines I mentioned to Nick earlier: in a
> phrase -- System Hygiene.
> 
> So how do you keep your system clean and nice .. and not even need to
> do a clean install?
> 
> There are several things that contribute to your system being healthy.
> 
> The most important is: know what is on your system and being able to
> remove it when no longer needed.  Nick hit one one right away: a
> system utility like the Task/System monitor he found.  So rather than
> being a noob, Nick turned out to hit on the right issue right away.
> 
> On my system, I always have the "Activity Monitor" running, and yes,
> as Josh mentioned, run "purge" often.  So I can see visually what's up
> with the system.  All the Big 3 have these, just look for performance
> monitor etc and you'll find it.
> 
> Next: after understanding how your system is running, look at your
> disk.  Again, all the Big 3 have something like Omni Disk Sweeper for
> the Mac: a program that lets you see, by size, where everything is on
> your disk.  I had to scrape my Mini clean recently so that Time
> Machine (the incremental backup system) wouldn't fill up immediately.
> I found over (blush) 40GB! that I no longer needed!  That's a lot of
> cruft.  And I'm supposed to be hip.  But no, cruft happens.
> 
> So after (2 days believe it or not) of figuring out what needed to be
> done, I applied yet another tool available on all of the Big 3: an
> un-installer programmer.  There were several available.  I deleted a
> large amount of the 40GB blush that way.  Amazing just how much TeX
> takes up on legacy systems.
> 
> What next?  Well, I still had WAY too much on my system to have a sane
> backup/TimeMachine strategy.  DiskSweeper again.  Man did I have a LOT
> of stuff I no longer needed.  What to do?  I chose a mixed strategy:
> - All working docs were put in the cloud. How? Dropbox for a lot of
> it.  Music?  Both Google Drive and iTunes Match.  Again available for
> the B3.  Whew, that was a lot.  I had over 80GB music, and now it's
> all in the cloud, multiply backed up.  Next photos.  As mentioned
> earlier, Arc and Amazon storage helps there.  Mail: IMAP/gmail ..
> that's solved (and now with 2-factor authentication).  Movies?  again,
> not too difficult.  A larger dropbox might help but I decided on
> simply finding .torrent files, so that I can get lost movies in a few
> hours if needed, the rest on local storage (redundant, via a NAS, but
> really not needed)
> - Loose a lot of apps I really don't use.  AppZapper was seriously
> busy for quite a while.  And even then, I had to find out how to keep
> my /usr/local clean due to the mixed strategies of Linux/Unix systems
> for package management.
> 
> So, no Nick, you are not odd having to figure out what to do.  And you
> hit almost immediately on the important issue: how to monitor your
> system.  What's running now and what's it doing?  Check the net for
> what causes these odd daemons/services running.  See if you can get by
> without that option.  Find the cruft.  Buy a disk or two for backup
> and pushing data not needed 24/7.
> 
> It really is that simple: Things have gotten really complex as my two
> friends, Mac & PC know.  Decide on a strategy.  Don't worry if its the
> best.  It just has to satisfy your requirements.  Follow a plan after
> deciding on the strategy.  Don't be in a hurry, its not easy nor
> obvious.  Do NOT think you are odd, noob, ignorant, weird, and so on.
> As I say, my two friends are very intelligent yet still struggling
> with their two systems.
> 
> My recommendation is to think out a Machine Hygiene strategy first,
> then a plan that implements it.  You will have to haunt Best Buy for a
> couple of disks, and sign up for Dropbox and/or similar systems.
> Decide what data is really, really important, likely using a Disk
> Sweeper to find out just what you DO have on your system.  Then just
> devote a taks a day for a couple of weeks and you'll be fat, dumb and
> happy!  And not dumb at all.
> 
>   -- Owen
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Nicholas  Thompson
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My Dell Studio (yeah, yeah, save the Mac cracks) has been cranky of l

[FRIAM] Director is back and wants 10% of your revenue!

[Joshua Thorp]

For those interested in tech companies shooting themselves in the foot,  no one 
does it like Adobe:


Adobe Director is back!

http://www.adobe.com/products/director.html

Publish 3d content to iOS devices!!!

… and pay Adobe 10% of your revenue on the App store!!!

(but only if your revenue exceeds $20,000)

http://www.neowin.net/news/adobe-taking-10-of-developers-earnings-on-ios-games-published-using-director-12

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Re: [FRIAM] Googlezon and phonotactics

[Joshua Thorp]

http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/


On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:13 AM, "Nicholas  Thompson"  
wrote:

> Eric,
>  
> Your reference to EPIC2014 suggests you remember the provenance of the 
> original spoof, which I am still hoping to find.  But I got nothing when I 
> googled epic2014.  Do you remember it?  Nobody else has confessed to having 
> seen it, yet.  Can you give me more breadcrumbs?  Nick
>  
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:18 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: [FRIAM] Googlezon and phonotactics
>  
> Eric -
> 
> Great observation.   I'm very interested in the power of how things are 
> *shaped* in their ability to persuade (all perceptions, with sound being 
> unique).  It also ties into synaesthetic experiences.   Your description of 
> the hypothetical Douglas Adams creature is a good example of how the sound of 
> the name is highly suggestive of it's shape/etc.   Another aspect of the 
> Structure/Function duality.
> 
> I do suspect that the EPIC2014 folks chose Googlezon specifically for it's 
> phonetic reference to Godzilla...   
> 
> My wife watches a lot of movies on her computer/iPad while she works, where I 
> cannot see them.  I am generally not interested in the content of the movies 
> themselves, so do my best to ignore the dialog.  But I cannot ignore the 
> soundtrack, the shape of the music and the dialog and the ambient sounds.   
> It is an entertaining (if sometimes distracting) experience.   
> 
> I also enjoy the phonotactics of poetry and literature and marvel at the 
> writers who can manipulate my emotions through the shaping of the sounds 
> behind the writing (and no, I don't move my lips while I read, but I *do* 
> hear eloquent writing as I read?).
> 
> I have tried to follow some of the Neuro Linguistic Programming literature 
> but got put off by the cultish mind-control factions there to the point of 
> letting that line drop.  If you have more serious references to send me to, I 
> would appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
>  - Steve
> Don't mean to thread hijack, but it seems this thread was pretty far gone 
> anyway.
>  
> I must say that the English phonotactics are really on display here.
>  
> Googlezon sounds like something big, heavy and vaguely dangerous, a kind of 
> Golem but somewhat clunky and difficult to take seriously, like the monsters 
> in old Japanese semi-animations.
>  
> Amazoogle sounds like something from a Douglas Adams book, with a long wiggly 
> trunk and lumpy multicolored skin, probably involving purple and green 
> coloration and perhaps spots, and even more difficult to take seriously.
>  
> Now why would that be?  Syllable-initial stops versus vowels and sibilants?  
> Stress on the final versus the penultimate syllable?  A reduced final vowel 
> in the latter that kind of dribbles away?  Must ask my psycholinguist friends 
> for a breakdown.  I'm sure they have nothing better to do. 
>  
>  
>  
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[FRIAM] pentalobe screwdriver?

[Joshua Thorp]

Anyone in Santa Fe have a pentalobe screwdriver for the mac book air?

I think I need to do some surgery on mine,  and I'm stuck at the first step…

--joshua

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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time

[Joshua Thorp]

But is the time change even needed?  What purpose does it really serve?  There 
are lots of stories about it rooted in wartime/economy etc. But these things do 
not seem to be valid anymore.  And are they worth the collective cost?

I have to say I prefer light later in the day though.

--joshua

On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Arlo Barnes  wrote:

> I have heard a proposal for doing smaller adjustments more often - but why 
> not take that to the logical extreme and do it continuously? Most people use 
> some form or other of computer to tell time nowadays anyway, and even 
> physical mechanisms would not be extremely difficult (I think) to redesign to 
> change smoothly throughout the year.
> -Arlo James Barnes
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Re: [FRIAM] fASCIIsm and half-ASCII users.

[Joshua Thorp]

Hah and you get perilously close to the long standing battle of spaces or tabs? 
 And if tabs what should the width of a tab be?

The answer, by the way, is just say no to tabs.   Spaces all the way. :)

--joshua

On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Douglas Roberts  wrote:

> Python allows the developer to introduce all kinds of interesting indentation 
> errors, as I discovered after moving some blocks of code around.
> 
> --Doug
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Marcus G. Daniels  
> wrote:
> On 3/17/13 9:03 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> So gentle reader, you'll see that WYSIWIS is a kindness to all and a
> Great Way to get along with each other.
> For code, if there is to be standard formatting it should encode information.
> Like Python and Haskell, not C or Java or JavaScript.  Then there is no room 
> for debate about it.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] WYSIWIS

[Joshua Thorp]

Also surprised Owen hasn't brought Markdown into the mix here.  Seems like the 
perfect ASCII/monospace style for meaningful formatting.


On Mar 17, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:

> Two things come to mind on this topic:
>Tower of Babel
>Uncanny Valley
> 
> (I hope my indentation, use of Case and parenthesis didn't throw anyone off 
> too far!)
> 
> When the Web was young, Print Designers went simply *apeshit* over this new 
> HTML thing, in both senses of the term.   Some had a great good time playing 
> with all the possibilities but most just got surly about losing the precise 
> control they had come to expect from print.  Designers used to *literally* 
> attend a press check to make sure that what they specced into the camera and 
> typographic work *was* exactly what they wanted... and sometimes there would 
> be modest changes made on the spot while the presses idled in the background.
> 
> I remember it being a perq of the job, though not without it's own stress, 
> and a good "closure".  A trip to Denver or San Francisco or New York at the 
> end of a finished job, and once the press-check was done and the presses 
> started rolling, you didn't have to worry about someone saying... "oh.. one 
> more thing!".  The client was usually at the press check too, so if they saw 
> something *after* the print run was done, they just got tight lipped and held 
> their tongue.  I think the apparent ease and convenience of making changes 
> was the BANE of designers once WYSIWIG got rolling.  An excuse for clients to 
> apply "late binding" to content...  run their own deadline right up to the 
> press deadline and leave it to the designers to incorporate last minute 
> changes hours before it went to press.  I think it was *this*, not the 
> challenges of learning newfangled computers, that drove many old school print 
> designers out of the Biz.
> 
> As for WYSIWIS...   this has been a problem with *color* forever, and myriad 
> strategies have been adopted to mitigate it, from the Pantone(tm) color 
> specification system to elaborate attempts to resolve the mechanical/optical 
> as well as *perceptual* differences between reflective (print) and emissive 
> (computer screens) and between additive and subtractive color.  And 
> referencing the "uncanny valley"... getting it "almost right" can be more 
> disturbing than merely "in the ballpark".
>> It is a bit humorous: the "What You See Is What I See" idea .. and its
>> little brother WYSIWYG, but there is also an interesting point to be
>> made.  It seems to be _hard_ to obtain!
>> 
>> This is one of the reasons, IMHO, that twitter is so popular.  I've
>> started using it quite a bit simply because it _is_ so readable and
>> very fast to do so.  And it definitely has the greatest info content
>> per sq. in. of any media I'm aware of.
>> 
>> On thinking more about it, the chief problem I have with formatting in
>> email is that our various machines and their apps have absurdly
>> different ways of setting these things.
>> 
>> So when I use GMail's web-mail system, it allows four text sizes, tiny
>> to huge.  I have absolutely no idea how these translate to your
>> screen.  I've resorted to creating images of email, sending it to the
>> sender, and asking "is this what you meant me to see"? and gotten a
>> horrified, Gawd No response.
>> 
>> What I find is Silos of Usage: i.e. folks on Windows running Exchange
>> will agree between themselves.  GMail-ers ditto.  Mac mail.app-ers
>> too.  Oh, and naturally Twitter folk.  And naturally the Unformatted
>> Text folk, bless them.
>> 
>> Maybe we should have an agreed upon style that we all share and a few
>> Windows, Mac, Linux hipsters transmit instructions on how to obtain
>> that style with each of the Silos?
>> 
>>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time

[Joshua Thorp]

But DST is surely mandated by the government and could be undone by the 
government.  Why they even shifted when it occurs by a couple of weeks 
recently.  Well in 2005,  by that royalist Bush and his congress.  Looks like 
these guys actually do have the power to change things.

http://www.timetemperature.com/tzus/daylight_saving_time_extended.shtml


--joshua

On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:07 AM, "Nicholas  Thompson"  
wrote:

> Owen:
>  
> The thing that keeps puzzling me about your appeals here is the hidden 
> assumption (I think I detect) that there is Somebody In Charge.  It’s the 
> parasitic ant model.  There’s a species of ant that makes its living by its 
> fertilized “queens” putting on perfumes and waving their little antenna until 
> workers of another species pick them up and carry them to their queen, where 
> upon the parasitic queen jumps on the back of the true queen, bites her in 
> the back of the neck to terminate her egg laying, and then lays eggs which 
> are cared for and raised by the parasitized ants.  Faculty members at 
> universities are particularly prone to the Parasitic Ant Fallacy.  They think 
> that  if they just go and complain to the President, The World Will Change.  
> It’s a harmless fantasy in its place, except that it leads to disparagement 
> of the people who are actually trying to make change, and getting muck all 
> over themselves in the process.  Viz Obama.  In short, I suspect you of being 
> a closet royalist.  So there!
>  
> Nick
>  
>  
>  
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:35 AM
> To: c...@plektyx.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the 
> bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time
>  
> Sorry to bump, but now *another* DST fkup: Europe does not change DST when 
> the US does.
>  
> So today our skype Italian class was shifted, and both Dede and I had to 
> cancel scheduled events.
>  
> If we have to live with time changes, we should at least try to make it 
> global, we're a pretty global community now and I bet others got hit by 
> US/Euro/Worldwide differences.
>  
>-- Owen
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[FRIAM] Realtime API from Google

[Joshua Thorp]

Might be of interest, wish I had the time for realtime…

https://developers.google.com/drive/realtime/

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[FRIAM] 3d projection

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This is a cool little build, plexiglass prism makes a hologram like effect:

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Re: [FRIAM] less

[Joshua Thorp]

What I have seen of less has been all good.  Having variables and functions 
alone make css a lot more fun.  Mixins are great with all the clean up they can 
bring by abstracting things that in reality have to be dealt with in series of 
one offs for different browsers.  

It requires a compiler.  You run a watcher that automatically updates every 
time you save the file.  These things can be misconfigured or stop working,  
which is a bother, but same as any other automatic build process.

I have been on projects using Compass http://compass-style.org/ lately.  Adding 
ruby in the mix can make for some interesting scripts when you need to compile 
css for different situations (like having your static content on a CDN with a 
different URL while your dev compile is served on the app nodes itself).

--joshua

On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Carl Tollander  wrote:

> Less used to be more, but now its something more and something less.  
> 
> "Mixins", hmmm, is somebody trying to bring back "flavors"?   In lisp land 
> they were great until they weren't, it was like buttons and threads.  
> Suddenly, a mess.
> 
> 
> On 3/20/13 9:25 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>> Anyone?  How about one of the other CSS tools?  Or even HTML/CSS combining 
>> stunts.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Robert J. Cordingley 
>>  wrote:
>> Does anyone have any decent experiences with Less they can share?
>> Robert C
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

[Joshua Thorp]

Probably the issue pops up when turning the wheel doesn't have the desired 
effect.  Without knowing more about how the car works all the user can say is 
"it doesn't work",  and all the mechanic can say is bring it in.  

Having an idea of how things are supposed to work one or two levels down can be 
useful when dealing with them when they don't.  And knowing who to talk to, and 
what to say.  Sure you can drive without knowing about how internal combustion 
works,  but having an idea that gas is necessary component and when it isn't 
present the car won't go is also useful and could save you a headache down the 
road.

Seems to me the more interesting question is what level of detail should we 
understand something like a web page or a car.  We have a fairly worked out 
basic level of understanding needed for operating a vehicle, but even here that 
level of understanding is generally going down as we lock up more and more of 
the operational decisions in black boxes instead of requiring the human to 
attend to them.

So the question is where do we stop this trend of not knowing,  or do we just 
want to live in a point and click world where everything either works or no 
help but to go to the experts when it doesn't.

--joshua

On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> The standard example is that most people can drive a car even though they 
> don't understand how internal combustion engines work -- and they would even 
> if the car were powered by an electric motor. I have no problem with putting 
> that in terms of contracts: turn the steering wheel and the car wheels turn. 
> One doesn't have to know how power steering works.
> 
> 
>  
> -- Russ Abbott
> _
>   Professor, Computer Science
>   California State University, Los Angeles
> 
>   My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688
>   Google voice: 747-999-5105
>   Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/
>   vita:  sites.google.com/site/russabbott/
>   CS Wiki and the courses I teach
> _ 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Gillian Densmore  
> wrote:
> where's the part of you beem into the google page: it instantly forms metrics 
> about you and presents you with "useful" adds (as aposed to to minuses) :P
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Russ Abbott  wrote:
> I disagree with Jean-Baptiste Query's presentation, which implies that you 
> have to understand all levels of any process to understand the process 
> itself. If that were true we would all have to understand quantum mechanics 
> to understand everything. But no one understands quantum mechanics. So no one 
> understands anything. 
> 
> Well, the point is that for non tech folks, it is a tower of babble.
> 
> I like the presentation because it starts with a simple idea: view a web 
> page, and shows the dirty little secret.
> 
> I believe it should be the intro to a book that does what I think you might 
> prefer: top down, breadth first introduction to digitology.
> 
> Or in other words: modularity, and its implementation in standard formats and 
> protocols.  And no, modularity .. tho nice in program structure .. does not 
> happen without the standard formats and protocols.
> 
> I have found it hard to explain modularity to non geek folks.  Can you do it? 
>  Most start with code, which as I say, is wrong.  But most folks understand 
> contracts, and that leads into protocols & formats.
> 
> I tried to explain DNS once to a very very smart guy.  Registrars, Name 
> Servers, TLD hierarchy.  His questions kept leading deeper into details, and 
> made it all impossible.  My poor friend actually got dizzy and ended up in 
> tears.
> 
>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice

[Joshua Thorp]

I'm not a statistician but shouldn't the analysis include all of the google 
services, not just the ones that have been canceled?  Or would it be more valid 
to say, "If they are going to cancel it, GV is living on borrowed time?"

--joshua

On Mar 22, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Holmes  wrote:

> Google Voice is living on borrowed time. If the Guardian's analysis is 
> correct (link), we could have expected Google to kill it off about two weeks 
> ago on 3/9/2013.
> 
> But until they do, I'll carry on using it for my 2¢ per minute calls to the 
> UK.
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Just sent this to the Google Device Support Team

[Joshua Thorp]

Also I doubt Owen ever said "top bit",  I imagine it was probably "high-order 
bit"…

I like the question though, can a bug be on purpose.  Seems like it would be in 
the eye of the beholder, one person's bug might be another's feature.

--joshua

On Mar 24, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Douglas Roberts  wrote:

> Nick's counselling session will be scheduled shortly...
> 
> --Doug (Who can tell when his chain is being yanked.)
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nicholas Thompson 
>  wrote:
> Now you all know, that, ever since Owen first used the word “top bit” in my 
> presence, nearly a decade ago, I have followed, with rapt attention, the use 
> of language on this list.  So,  you guys.  I need to understand this better.  
> Can a “bug” be “on purpose”?  It sounds to me like Google has sabotaged its 
> own product, right.  Therefore, if I understand the language, any Nexus phone 
> thatactually  worked, would be “buggy”., by definition.  I am sorry to bother 
> you about this, but these are the kinds of things that keep me awake at 
> night.  N
> 
>  
> 
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:44 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: [FRIAM] Just sent this to the Google Device Support Team
> 
>  
> 
> Hi, Google Device Support Team.
> 
>  
> 
> It's  been a while since we spoke, but I recently discovered that someone in 
> your organization has been (I hope inadvertently) disseminating inaccurate 
> information about this Nexus 4 bug, and I thought you'd want to know about it 
> right away.  
> 
>  
> 
> Here's the deal: you see, we all know that the Nexus 4 was not designed on 
> purpose to prevent wifi and bluetooth from being used at the same time.  We 
> all know that it is a bug.  Well, all of us except for Steve, apparently. 
> Here, read for yourselves:  
> 
>  
> 
> http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/03/translated.html
> 
>  
> 
> Now, we all have the utmost confidence that someone in your organization will 
> immediately take Steve aside for a private little counselling session about 
> the inappropriateness of, shall we say, bending the truth regarding this 
> particular flaw in the Nexus 4 product.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter.
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
>  
> 
> --Doug
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

[Joshua Thorp]

Interesting a new language I hadn't hear about.  But why would you name 
anything Rust?


--joshua

On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:50 PM, "mar...@snoutfarm.com"  
wrote:

> contrast with..
> 
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/04/03/mozilla-and-samsung-collaborate-on-
> next-generation-web-browser-engine/
> 
> Original Message:
> -
> From: Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com
> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:04:00 -0600
> To: friam@redfish.com
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target
> 
> 
> Fascinating�
> 
> --Barry
> 
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> 
>> Note: I'd usually confine this to wedtech but because of the broader
> nature of the asm.js post, and the author himself, John Resig, I thought
> the broader list would be better.
>> 
>> http://ejohn.org/blog/asmjs-javascript-compile-target/
>> 
>>  -- Owen
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

[Joshua Thorp]

You can do Duck typing in Java via methods requiring Objects (the base class of 
all other Java objects) and using reflection to test for various properties.  
But it is working against the grain of the language to do so.  Intersting run 
down of various implementations here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_typing

--joshua




On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Russell Standish  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:37:09PM -0600, Owen Densmore wrote:
>> 
>> In duck typing, one is concerned with just those aspects of an object that
>> are used, rather than with the type of the object itself. For example, in a
>> non-duck-typed language, one can create a function that takes an object of
>> type Duck and calls that object's walk and quack methods. In a duck-typed
>> language, the equivalent function would take an object of any type and call
>> that object's walk and quack methods. If the object does not have the
>> methods that are called then the function signals a run-time error. If the
>> object does have the methods, then they are executed no matter the type of
>> the object, evoking the quotation and hence the name of this form of typing.
>> Duck typing is aided by habitually *not* testing for the type of arguments
>> in method and function bodies, relying on documentation, clear code and
>> testing to ensure correct use.
> 
> In C++, generic programming, or static polymorphism, is often called
> duck-typing. If my generic algorithm expexcts the object passed to it
> have walk, quack and swim methods, then the compiler will not allow
> you to pass in something that doesn't have those methods, but otherwise
> there are no other restrictions on the object passed in.
> 
> This is in contrast to dynamic polymorphism, which is like Java's - the
> object you pass in must inherit from a base class, which becomes part
> of the documented interface of the method. "You are only allowed to
> pass in ducks here, but I don't care what species they are." Side note
> - Java has "generics", but you can't really do "generic programming",
> or "duck-typing" in Java, AFAICT.
> 
> Obviously, in more dynamic languages like Javascript, duck-typing
> errors must be caught at run time, but in static languages like C++,
> they are caught at compile time.
> 
> Cheers
> --
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] glasses free 3D - multiview - omnisteroscopic

[Joshua Thorp]

Thanks Steve!

Very interested in these sorts of things!  

FRIAM should defintely have more of a demo vibe,  we have such interesting 
people and projects out there!

and,
cheers!

--joshua




On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Steve Smith  wrote:

> phellow phRIAMers -
> 
> I don't know how many others here are interested in 3D 
> capture/distribution/display technology but here is a recent 
> announcement/demo from HP on (yet another) step toward glasses-free 
> multi-view 3D stereo.
> 
> http://h30507.www3.hp.com/t5/Innovation-HP-Labs/On-Our-Way-to-Glasses-Free-3D/ba-p/134391
> 
> They are doing spatial multiplexing of multiview images, channeled using 
> nanolithographic gratings.   Fred and I are doing similar work with 
> holographic optical elements.  There's is better, but then so is their budget.
> 
> For anyone else here interested in this technology, I've got my fingers in 
> several related pots (omnistereoscopic capture, holographic optical element 
> design/application, multiview/plenoptic/lightfield capture/display).  Ping me 
> offline (mailto:s...@lava3d.com) if you have an interest/stake in this 
> domain... it gets NDA pretty quickly.
> 
> I don't know if Tony Giancola is still on this list, but his early work 
> trying to build a panoramic capture system (his Panamarama Hat) for balloon 
> fiesta helped to send me down this path.  Thanks Tony!
> 
> 
> Tony in an udderly interesting photo of his panamarama hat
> 
> 
> My adaptation termed the PizzaPanarama
> (early GoPro gratuitously staged in center)
> 
> Our own (now off list?) Cyrus Amadi-Moghadim built the Arduino trigger for 
> this rig.
> Cyrus is now at NMTech studying engineering.
> 
> - Steve
> 
> In case you were thinking that all I ever do is post nonsense to FRIAM.. oh 
> wait... *this* is probably nonsense to 90%!  And we are holding 2 Holography 
> Workshops this Friday/Saturday and have one opening on Friday if anyone wants 
> to "roll their own" at Fred's place.  Let me know.
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Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus

[Joshua Thorp]

Just noting, I think these are visualizations of "fire progressions" which 
means that this is the equivalent of watching an animated radar map (though 
perhaps less accurate?).  We see where the fire was estimated to be after the 
fact.  Not what the fire will do.

Amazing to see the scale of the fires on this map.  Nice work Cody and the rest 
of the Simtable team,  looks great!

--joshua


On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Nicholas Thompson  
wrote:

> Cody,
>  
> From my point of view this plug wasn’t shameless enough.   Each link let to a 
> simulation of one of the fires, but I wondered how these were derived.  
> Before the fact?  After the fact?  Let it be the case that the Forest Service 
> had a simtable in their response  co-ordination center  (perhaps they do?).   
> What would have been different.  Less shame, please. 
>  
> Nick
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of cody dooderson
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:42 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus
>  
> WARNING this is another shameless SimTable plug.
>  
> Simtable has been mapping some of the fire progressions. 
> The tres Lagunas fire burned for a while in the pecos watershed but now seems 
> to be completely under control. 
> The Thompson ridge fire is burning slowly through the Valle Caldera, but I 
> can't imagine there is much fuel left  considering the massive fire 2 years 
> ago. 
> The Silver Fire, is burning near silver city, in the Gila National Forest.
> Last but not least, the Jaroso fire burned nearly to the top of Pecos baldy 
> and produced a huge "pyrocumulus"
> smoke cloud for one day. It looked like a volcano went off
> All of the fires seem to be under control after the much needed rains last 
> week. 
>  
> My apologies for the plug
> Cody 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Cody Smith
>  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:
> Hi Merle --
>  
> The bottom line on the news last night is that we're 300,000 acres behind 
> last year's tally with a measly 57,000 acres of fires, and the signs are that 
> the fire season will close early.  There are three fires that have been 
> visible from Santa Fe -- Tres Lagunas to the east and Thompson Ridge to the 
> west have been active for more than two weeks.  The Jaroso fire only started 
> this week to the northeast and prompted the pyrocumulus discussion.  The 
> Thompson Ridge fire sent us smoke one evening, but aside from that it's been 
> easy breathing here in Santa Fe.
>  
> Hope you're enjoying Bhutan,
>  
> -- rec --
>  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Nicholas Thompson 
>  wrote:
> Hi, Merle,
>  
> Many, although neither Santa Fe nor Los Alamos seems to be at risk at the 
> moment.  To keep current go to www.inciweb.org .  I am in Massachusetts at 
> the moment, so details will have to come from others.  N
>  
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:32 AM
> 
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus
>  
> Roger
>  
> Hi, I'm working in Bhutan. Is there a big fire in New Mexico? Merle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 12:19 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:
> 
> Here's a pyrocumulus over the Silver fire estimated at 6-7 miles (31-37 
> thousand feet), though I don't know how he worked out the angles from 
> Wisconsin.
>  
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=81402&src=eorss-nh
>  
> -- rec --
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Re: [FRIAM] Mini: Replace Hard Disk w/ SSD (Solid State Drive)

[Joshua Thorp]

Just wanted to +1 the SSD as a restorative for old laptops.  Put one in my 5? 
year old macbook pro.  Really makes a difference!  I also took the failed dvd 
drive out.  Haven't had the urge,  but they do sell hard drive kits that fit in 
that space.  Might be a compromise for those who want to take everything with 
them…  

--joshua

On Jul 3, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Steve Smith  wrote:

> Owen -
> 
> Good to hear...
> 
>  I *almost* gave over to putting an SSD into the (used) 15" MacBook Pro I 
> just bought to replace my (worn to a frazzle) 13" MPB.   I talked myself out 
> of it because I *also* wanted to increase the amount of onboard HDD space 
> from my exisTing ~350GB and the priciness of a ~512G SSD was too shocking.   
> 
> I have 2TB in my NAS and don't use *any* cloud (except Flickr and Blog and 
> conventional Website), but I depend too much on having *everything* at my 
> fingertips whether in the office or in the field and the field is often 
> literally "in the field" despite now having iPhone/Cell tethering.
> 
> I don't fully understand the OSX (previously 10.6, now 10.8) memory and I/O 
> management strategies as I would expect generous memory to go a long way and 
> for hybrid HD/SSD technology to give 90% of the results at a fraction of the 
> cost.   
> 
> Do you, or others here have any experience with the Hybrid HD/SSD technology, 
> in particular in the context of Mountain Lion?
> 
> - Steve
> 
> 
>> My 2010 Mini was getting pretty slow, and the problem was clearly the hard 
>> drive and swapping.  I also have an Air with SSD which is really, really 
>> snappy .. especially for being the first generation.
>> 
>> So SSD it was.  The video I followed was OWC (Other World Computing):
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XrlN0tAeY2U
>> I also followed the advice to pre-install a bootable copy of my existing 
>> disk onto the SSD via SuperDuper.
>>  
>> http://blog.danielna.com/2012/12/09/upgrade-macbook-pro-with-superduper.html
>> 
>> One additional upgrade: because there are multiple screw head types in this 
>> exercise, I bought the OWC screwdriver kit so I'd have the Torx 6 & 8 as 
>> well as a really odd Hex driver from the current iFixIt kit floating around.
>> 
>> The SSD is a Samsung from Amazon .. 256 GB.  That seem small by today's 
>> standard, but with the "cloud" and a local NAS (Network Attached Storage) 
>> with RAID (redundant storage), I felt I could manage the somewhat reduced 
>> size (the hard drive being replaced wast 500GB).
>> 
>> No major problems other than finding the Mini had an unconnected heat sensor 
>> (decided it was for the disk so just taped it on), and the video having a 
>> few errors in terms of size screws.
>> 
>> Man has it been worth it!  The old Mini has a new life .. and I can wait on 
>> a replacement for another couple of years.  Seriously, SSD replacement is a 
>> great way to improve your computer.  And with the good video and the toolset 
>> we've got, I'd say most of us could perform the procedure.  No where near is 
>> difficult as changing an iPhone cracked screen.
>> 
>>-- Owen
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Most Distant Galaxy - What's wrong with this statement?

[Joshua Thorp]

Which leads to this interesting tidbit: "A garden snail has a top speed of 
about 78 furlongs per fortnight."

http://www.cathedral.org/wrs/chamber/fortnight-explained.htm

On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:02 PM, "Robert J. Cordingley"  
wrote:

> 1,799,884,800,000 f/f give or take, in a vacuum.
> 
> Robert C
> 
> On 10/25/13 11:37 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>> In the spirit of "will it blend?" and "how much is a buttload?"  I have to 
>> ask, what is the speed of light in "furlongs per fortnight?" 
>> 
>> - Steve
>>> So it sounds like during the expansion phase a lightyear was still a 
>>> lightyear but growing bigger?  If you were there how would you tell?  My 
>>> platinum standard meter bar is now a longer but still standard meter bar?  
>>> Has time dilated as well?  If so what does the age of 13.5by mean?  In what 
>>> dimensions could you measure these changes?  [Confusion may be an 
>>> understatement.]
>>> 
>>> Robert C
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13 10:12 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space:
 
 "Because of the changing rate of expansion, it is also possible for a 
 distance to exceed the value calculated by multiplying the speed of light 
 by the age of the universe. These details are a frequent source of 
 confusion among amateurs and even professional physicists."
 
 -- rec --
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Robert J. Cordingley 
  wrote:
 Regardless of the poetic 'outer edges' is it possible what might be meant 
 is in the context of a hyperspherical universe where the radius is time 
 and is 13.5 by?  The center being when the big bang occurred.  Then the 
 furthest object would be diametrically opposite and hypercircumferentially 
 at 13.5*pi bly or 42.4 bly away?  So in the 'now' being at 30bly away is 
 chicken feed.
 
 Robert C.
 
 
 On 10/24/13 9:20 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> Where is "the outer edge of the Universe" and what sort of observation 
> would locate something there?  All that the original report in Nature 
> established was redshift (7.51), age (700 Myr after the Big Bang), and a 
> surprising rate of star formation (330 solar masses / year).
> 
> -- rec --
> 
> 
> > > >  From the BBC at 
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24637890
> > > > (today)
> > > >
> > > > /Because it takes light so long to travel from the outer edge of the
> > > > Universe to us, the galaxy appears as it was 13.1 billion years ago 
> > > > (its
> > > > distance from Earth of 30 billion light-years is because the 
> > > > Universe is
> > > > expanding)./
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Message from Moscow

[Joshua Thorp]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded

Why does the conversation always hinge on Snowden's morality?  We all knew the 
US government is rotten -- so no news there?  But an individual breaking an 
oath to hide this fact -- that is news?  How dare he reveal what we all knew 
was likely the case?  

Snowden was well aware of how whistleblowers are treated in the US 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake,  specifically with character 
assassination, legal prosecution, and physical and psychological intimidation.  
Why exactly would it be more honorable to sacrifice himself ineffectually? It 
seems the manner he chose got his message out and he has been able to continue 
to shape and argue his case.  Something he would not likely have been able to 
do had he given himself up to the US's prison system that allows for punitive 
isolation,  something he would likely have received to protect us,  his 
victims,  from any more of his dangerous ideas and information.

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Re: [FRIAM] now that's the spirit!

[Joshua Thorp]

Yes in case someone missed this,  a very interesting little post from 
washington post titled: 
How we know the NSA had access to internal Google and Yahoo cloud data
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/04/how-we-know-the-nsa-had-access-to-internal-google-and-yahoo-cloud-data/



--joshua

On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:52 PM, "Marcus G. Daniels"  wrote:

> On 11/6/13, 5:30 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>> I think the inter-mail-server hops are encrypted, or I certainly hope so!  
>> And the clients all support encryption or alternatively use https web-apps.
> Some providers use more lighter protocols like LMTPA (Local Mail Transfer 
> Protocol) for internal transfers.   The idea being that if the mail doesn't 
> hit the internet then the physical security of the ISP is sufficient, even 
> though the ISP switches over to TLS security for the delivery once the data 
> is headed for the internet.  And Google does the latter.  But for Google 
> their internal network is world spanning, and delegated off to other 
> companies fiber infrastructure.   Question is, does Google have a fastpath 
> for gmail-to-gmail deliveries that does not use any encryption?  According to 
> the leaked slides, the NSA was busy deconstructing the Google and Yahoo 
> internal protocols, so they must have thought it would be profitable.  (And 
> Google engineers say that the slides indeed reveal proprietary information.)
>  
> Marcus
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Forum hacked

[Joshua Thorp]

This an interesting if dense approach to doing away with the password:

https://www.grc.com/sqrl/sqrl.htm

a little more high level: http://www.sqrl.pl/


Basically use an app on your phone or desktop to confirm your unique identity 
using a cryptographic signature.  One click login…  No passwords (except to 
access the authentication app… :P ) 

One interesting thing to note about the implementation,  they define a new 
scheme for links sqrl://  that then get registered for the authentication app…  
Interesting approach to define a custom scheme/register app to handle it which 
could be taken advantage in a lot of situations.

—joshua


On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> As a quick followup:
> - I use 1password.  Why?  To collect a list of my logins.  Most of us do not 
> know half of the logins we have!  This lets me at least spend an afternoon 
> updating all my passwords if I want to.  1P seems OK and works well in my 
> ecology.
> 
> - I use 2-factor with google and their app.  And if a site lets me login w/ 
> OAuth, I try to use google.  A few more ISPs are using 2-factor and if they 
> are easy to use, I may try them too.  Main issue is pin; most sms it to you 
> but dongles abound and I think I'll avoid them.
> 
> - Where possible I use pub/priv key crypto.  My hosting service.  My home 
> computers, servers and NAS, ssh sites.  I wish I could use it on my router, 
> router attacks are on the rise.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> Ray, you'd have a far better take on passwords, and security of all sorts 
> than most of us, love your input on this.
> 
> So here's an observation: 
> Passwords are Dead.  Just move along and we'll come back with a better 
> solution after the commercial.
> 
> Why?
> 1 - To be secure, you depend on the ISP to be secure. That's OK, but does 
> fail often.
> 
> 2 - Apparently length of passwords is the high order bit for crackibility. We 
> humans dislike typing 20 character passwords, especially on our phones, and 
> its extremely likely to be miss-typed at least once, probability of typo goes 
> up with each keystroke.
> 
> 3 - We are also instructed to have a different password for each login.  
> Humans simply cannot do that, they are limited.  Thus they resort to a 
> formula like two phrases with a 3-4 character difference in the middle, with 
> some significance like "azn" or "books" for amazon.
> 
> 4 - Most ISPs have their own rules for passwords, and likely any formula will 
> fail on a percentage of them.  Thus a formula will only work part of the 
> time.  Maybe there is a subset that most ISPs accept?  I found UNM, and my 
> bank, for example, failed to accept a formula I tried.
> 
> 5 - This leads to keepass, 1password etc to remember all your passwords for 
> you.  Silly, but still appears reasonable.  But they typically fail in 
> certain situations.  Ex: they are designed for browser use so are 
> plugins/bookmarklets.  But what if you have a phone "app".  Won't work.  So 
> you have to do stupid tricks to go to the pw app and cut/paste.
> 
> 6 - The latest trend to improve this is two-fold: 
> 6.1: Reduce number of logins: Use OAuth to have just a few accounts that 
> are very secure.  As soon as twitter, google, facebook, moz, yahoo, ... and 
> the rest of the "standard ISPs" all have OAuth (or equivalent), and are used 
> by the vast majority of the other sites (forums, stores, ..) we have reduced 
> the complexity of the user.  Probably will work with all non-creditcard sites.
> 6.2: 2-factor: How make more secure?  So far 2-factor works out pretty 
> well.  It would require a standard pin generator, google's is pretty 
> effective.  Have to do this to reduce the pile of silly physical pin 
> generators.
> 
> I'm not sure this will work, its too complicated for most people.  We might 
> be able to have a single pin dongle for 2-factor, could help.  Thus far 
> 2-factor for me has been the best, and I use that account via OAuth for all 
> the forums, mail lists etc that accept that.  Even stores as long as they 
> don't keep the credit card info.
> 
> The fallback is a password keeper as mentioned above.  But do you really want 
> it to keep all your passwords?  You're dead without it (travel etc) and it 
> simply doesn't work in all situations (apps vs browser) and its a bit creepy 
> to depend on a computer program for all your security.
> 
> Sigh.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Parks, Raymond  wrote:
> The addition of a salt to a password makes rainbow tables much less effective 
> because it makes the table space larger, even trading off chain length for 
> convergence.  However, rainbow tables are no longer the thing - with 
> multi-GPU setups, password crackers just brute force passwords.  Basically, 
> the sequence is:
> 
> 1. Using a large (20 million word) multiple language (but standard ASCII) 
> dictionary derived from text sources across the

Re: [FRIAM] Rly

[Joshua Thorp]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

pricy but worth it.

I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary computer,  
that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just how quick you can 
lose everything.  An uninterruptible power supply gives you a chance to put 
things away in an orderly manner.

—joshua

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore  wrote:

> Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes 
> pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the 
> power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It 
> fs up work im doing.
> Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?
> 
> Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Git/GitHub Question

[Joshua Thorp]

Owen,

Looks like you have things working just how you want them to.  You can keep 
working in your master branch and whenever you want to update gh-pages,

git checkout gh-pages
git merge master

done.


So long as you never merge gh-pages into master you are golden.

—joshua

On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> This should be easy but I haven't figured out a solution yet.
> 
> I have a repository (repo), agentscript.  It has not only the core code and 
> "plugins" but docs, models, and js/min.js files which require hosting .. i.e. 
> something that can "serve" these html/js files.
> 
> GHPages, the github project hosting service provides this.  GHPages works by 
> having a branch, gh-pages, which is stored on their hosting service (not 
> their project site)
> 
> But to use their hosting service and nifty templates, there are several, 5, 
> extra files/folders generated and live in the branch
> 
> I'd like to maintain the branch separately, with the 5 extra files/folders, 
> and periodically add all of the main/master repo to this.  I believe the 
> branches would have to remain separate, even tho sharing most of their files.
> 
> Git merge won't work, I think.  If I merge the master into the branch, the 
> branch becomes the master, and I no longer have separation between the two .. 
> and I pollute the master repo with the extra web service files.
> 
> Is there a git trick that would let me maintain two separate branches, and 
> periodically "merge" the master files into the branch, yet keep the 5 branch 
> web service files/folders out of the master?
> 
> Oh, in addition, the server files need no updating at all after their initial 
> creation.  They simply use the project README.md for their "content".
> 
>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] Git/GitHub Question

[Joshua Thorp]

This looks to me like at some point gh-pages was merged to master.  So that 
when you deleted “stylesheets" in master,  merging to gh-pages also included 
this delete action…  My guess is that if you added the stylesheets directory 
back into gh-pages you wouldn’t ever experience this problem again.

—joshua

On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> I thought so too.  But here's an experiment.
> 
> master dir has this (Attic is in .gitignore and just has stuff removed):
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[649]: ls
> Attic README.md   junk.txt
> 
> while gh-pages has:
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[653]: ls
> Attic images  javascripts stylesheets
> README.md index.html  params.json
> 
> I then run this exeriment: go to each branch, check status .. both clean.  
> Then I try the merge.
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[655]: git checkout master
> Switched to branch 'master'
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[656]: git status
> # On branch master
> nothing to commit, working directory clean
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[657]: git checkout gh-pages
> Switched to branch 'gh-pages'
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[658]: git status
> # On branch gh-pages
> nothing to commit, working directory clean
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[659]: git merge master
> Removing stylesheets/stylesheet.css
> Removing stylesheets/pygment_trac.css
> Removing params.json
> Removing javascripts/main.js
> CONFLICT (modify/delete): index.html deleted in master and modified in HEAD. 
> Version HEAD of index.html left in tree.
> Removing images/sprite_download.png
> Removing images/icon_download.png
> Removing images/blacktocat.png
> Removing images/bg_hr.png
> Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result.
> 
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[660]: git status
> # On branch gh-pages
> # You have unmerged paths.
> #   (fix conflicts and run "git commit")
> #
> # Changes to be committed:
> #
> # modified:   README.md
> # deleted:images/bg_hr.png
> # deleted:images/blacktocat.png
> # deleted:images/icon_download.png
> # deleted:images/sprite_download.png
> # deleted:javascripts/main.js
> # new file:   junk.txt
> # deleted:params.json
> # deleted:stylesheets/pygment_trac.css
> # deleted:stylesheets/stylesheet.css
> #
> # Unmerged paths:
> #   (use "git add/rm ..." as appropriate to mark resolution)
> #
> # deleted by them:index.html
> #
> 
> And the resulting gh-pages looks like:
> Home|~/src/cs/test3[661]: ls
> Attic README.md   index.html  javascripts junk.txt
> 
> So yes, it did merge README.md and junk.txt but for some reason deleted 
> images, javascripts/main, stylsheets and params.json.
> 
> I guess there's a configuration problems somewhere.  Maybe the way I pulled 
> the gh-pages after creating the website on github?  I bet that's it.  But I 
> did add . and commit in gh-pages and it all worked with a dummy README.md 
> initially.
> 
> The test site is here: 
> http://backspaces.github.io/test/
> and the gh-pages here, with a dummy README
> https://github.com/backspaces/test
> 
> Thanks for the reinforcement, however .. I should go thru all the steps 
> 1-at-a-time and see if there's anything odd there.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Joshua Thorp  wrote:
> Owen,
> 
> Looks like you have things working just how you want them to.  You can keep 
> working in your master branch and whenever you want to update gh-pages,
> 
> git checkout gh-pages
> git merge master
> 
> done.
> 
> 
> So long as you never merge gh-pages into master you are golden.
> 
> —joshua
> 
> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> 
>> This should be easy but I haven't figured out a solution yet.
>> 
>> I have a repository (repo), agentscript.  It has not only the core code and 
>> "plugins" but docs, models, and js/min.js files which require hosting .. 
>> i.e. something that can "serve" these html/js files.
>> 
>> GHPages, the github project hosting service provides this.  GHPages works by 
>> having a branch, gh-pages, which is stored on their hosting service (not 
>> their project site)
>> 
>> But to use their hosting service and nifty templates, there are several, 5, 
>> extra files/folders generated and live in the branch
>> 
>> I'd like to maintain the branch separately, with the 5 extra files/folders, 
>> and periodically add all of the main/master repo to this.  I believe the 
>> branches would have to remain separ

Re: [FRIAM] Git/GitHub Question

[Joshua Thorp]

One last thing:

I use gitx http://gitx.frim.nl/ a simple little OSX app that has a nice 
graphical display of your history.

Helps to see where you are, when you have multiple branches in the picture.

—joshua

On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Wow, sounds quite possible .. I'll try it this evening or tomorrow.
> 
> I'll also see if there's a git history command that'll help clarify things.
> 
> Thans!
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Joshua Thorp  wrote:
> This looks to me like at some point gh-pages was merged to master.  So that 
> when you deleted “stylesheets" in master,  merging to gh-pages also included 
> this delete action…  My guess is that if you added the stylesheets directory 
> back into gh-pages you wouldn’t ever experience this problem again.
> 
> —joshua
> 
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> 
>> I thought so too.  But here's an experiment.
>> 
>> master dir has this (Attic is in .gitignore and just has stuff removed):
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[649]: ls
>> AtticREADME.md   junk.txt
>> 
>> while gh-pages has:
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[653]: ls
>> Atticimages  javascripts stylesheets
>> README.mdindex.html  params.json
>> 
>> I then run this exeriment: go to each branch, check status .. both clean.  
>> Then I try the merge.
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[655]: git checkout master
>> Switched to branch 'master'
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[656]: git status
>> # On branch master
>> nothing to commit, working directory clean
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[657]: git checkout gh-pages
>> Switched to branch 'gh-pages'
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[658]: git status
>> # On branch gh-pages
>> nothing to commit, working directory clean
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[659]: git merge master
>> Removing stylesheets/stylesheet.css
>> Removing stylesheets/pygment_trac.css
>> Removing params.json
>> Removing javascripts/main.js
>> CONFLICT (modify/delete): index.html deleted in master and modified in HEAD. 
>> Version HEAD of index.html left in tree.
>> Removing images/sprite_download.png
>> Removing images/icon_download.png
>> Removing images/blacktocat.png
>> Removing images/bg_hr.png
>> Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result.
>> 
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[660]: git status
>> # On branch gh-pages
>> # You have unmerged paths.
>> #   (fix conflicts and run "git commit")
>> #
>> # Changes to be committed:
>> #
>> #modified:   README.md
>> #deleted:images/bg_hr.png
>> #deleted:images/blacktocat.png
>> #deleted:images/icon_download.png
>> #deleted:images/sprite_download.png
>> #deleted:javascripts/main.js
>> #new file:   junk.txt
>> #deleted:params.json
>> #deleted:stylesheets/pygment_trac.css
>> #deleted:stylesheets/stylesheet.css
>> #
>> # Unmerged paths:
>> #   (use "git add/rm ..." as appropriate to mark resolution)
>> #
>> #deleted by them:index.html
>> #
>> 
>> And the resulting gh-pages looks like:
>> Home|~/src/cs/test3[661]: ls
>> AtticREADME.md   index.html  javascripts junk.txt
>> 
>> So yes, it did merge README.md and junk.txt but for some reason deleted 
>> images, javascripts/main, stylsheets and params.json.
>> 
>> I guess there's a configuration problems somewhere.  Maybe the way I pulled 
>> the gh-pages after creating the website on github?  I bet that's it.  But I 
>> did add . and commit in gh-pages and it all worked with a dummy README.md 
>> initially.
>> 
>> The test site is here: 
>> http://backspaces.github.io/test/
>> and the gh-pages here, with a dummy README
>> https://github.com/backspaces/test
>> 
>> Thanks for the reinforcement, however .. I should go thru all the steps 
>> 1-at-a-time and see if there's anything odd there.
>> 
>>-- Owen
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Joshua Thorp  wrote:
>> Owen,
>> 
>> Looks like you have things working just how you want them to.  You can keep 
>> working in your master branch and whenever you want to update gh-pages,
>> 
>> git checkout gh-pages
>> git merge master
>> 
>> done.
>> 
>> 
>> So long as you never merge gh-pages into master you are golden.
>> 

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: UTAustinX: UT.5.01x: Linear Algebra - Foundations to Frontiers | edX

[Joshua Thorp]

This is exaclty how we operate at my company and I have found it to be an 
incredible time saver.  The alternative requires detective work to solve every 
problem for every user.  If everyone is using the same Vagrant box then solving 
the problems of one user can be applied to all of the other users.

I know python is a prime offender on this kind of configuration issues,  but 
this technique is wonderful for many different sorts of software packages…  In 
one go you can have a complete system up and running with potentially many 
different pieces of software properly configured and running…  The instructions 
typically go,  install virtual box, install vagrant, clone this repo,  type 
“vagrant up”… and you are running. 

—joshua

On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Just curious.  Has anyone knowledge of this course and/or the 
> school/instructors?
>https://www.edx.org/course/utaustinx/utaustinx-ut-5-01x-linear-algebra-1162
> 
> One interesting thing in the FAQ was computer requirements:
> What software do I need for the course?
> We will utilize VirtualBox, Vagrant, and Git, which are available for free. 
> We have configured a virtual machine for download to ensure that all 
> participants have the same software and environment. With it, you will create 
> a small linear algebra package using Python 3 and iPython Notebooks. 
> Detailed, easy instructions will explain how to download, install, and use 
> the software. If you are registered for the course, you will receive an email 
> alerting you when these instructions become available. You will be able to 
> access them at least a week before the course begins. (Don't be intimidated 
> by the jargon. We'll get you through it.)
> 
> That, on the one hand, is extraordinarily sophisticated, on the other hand a 
> comment on just how hard it is to configure a desktop environment for class 
> material.
> 
> Imagine telling someone that you'll have to have a computer within a computer 
> configured correctly to run the Python packages you'll be using!
> 
> I was more impressed by Stanford's Machine Learning class that just said: 
> Install either MatLab or Octave.  All our code will work with that.
> 
>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: A New Programming Book and a Holiday Wish - Google Groups

[Joshua Thorp]

I am a fan of block based programming languages for younger students.  And yes 
I think the transition from TNG to Netlogo is pretty straightforward and 
painless…

The biggest advantage I see in block languages,  and this may seem minor but I 
can tell you from experience it isn’t,  block based languages let you program 
before you are a consistent speller because it doesn’t matter how you spell 
W0lF or RaBbit,  once you have declared the variable or procedure new blocks 
are created for you with that spelling…

Helps with understanding program flow as well as blocks clearly belong to other 
blocks in a way that {} and () (or indenting) just don’t.

With TNG there is a middle place where once you are proficient with the 
language you can begin to type the blocks into existence which is a lot faster 
than searching through ‘drawers’ of blocks.

—joshua


On Dec 18, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> More from the pencil code author:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/coffeescript/EFwDMClKKh0
> .. about the effectiveness of Blockly .. like StarLogo TNG.
> 
> So here's the question: if I learn in blockly-style programming, will it 
> impede the jump to text based programming?
> 
> Steve tells me that the super computer challenge uses TNG for the younger 
> students, and text based NetLogo for older students.  Does anyone have an 
> opinion or experience, especially on whether block programming is useful at 
> all and if it is, is the transition difficult?
> 
>-- Owen
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

[Joshua Thorp]

Well said Carl!

+1 for spending some time on the ‘fundamentals’  but also an acknowledgement 
that choosing the proper level of ‘fundamentals’ is also very important,  and 
indeed sometimes it is the outsider/maverick that makes new progress in a field 
just because they don’t know the ‘proper’ way to approach a problem.

—joshua

On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Carl Tollander  wrote:

>> What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use 
>> power-planers and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to use 
>> the right type of hand-plane, chisels, and scrapers in case you lose 
>> electric power.
> Well, I dunno.   Several points along these lines.
> 
> - What is foundational for one is not foundational for another.  As an 
> example,  for drum music, I may worry a great deal about the welds on the 
> tacks, the speed of sound in the wood, distribution of force laterally in a 
> drum shell, various details about adhesives and even what they fed the cow 
> that supplied the cowhide, but that doesn't necessarily make me a better 
> drummer than somebody worried about kinesthesiology of the forarm and 
> shoulder and how it relates to the mass and dimensions of their drumsticks.   
> 
> - Knowing too well what is apparently foundational may prevent you from 
> innovating.   For example in wood joinery instead of cutting biscuits, I may 
> know enough about epoxy strength to design a situation in which a bead of 
> epoxy is its own biscuit and thus make a stronger joint that I would be able 
> to if I had kept to wood joinery fundamentals. 
> 
> - The ability to perform a task at all depends on the capabilities at hand.   
> In the power tool example, losing electricity does not necessarily mean 
> one can effectively fall back to hand tools.   It such a case it may no 
> longer be economical to perform the task at all, given alternatives.
> 
> - Then there's time.   One could of course say that flint knapping an 
> obsidian hand axe from scratch will make you more proficient with a hand 
> chisel.At some point one has a task to do, a time constraint, and a power 
> planer at hand.
> 
> That said, yes, its good to know some hand drafting before you get into CAD.  
> But "fundamentals" and "foundations" can be slippery concepts.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On 2/17/14, 10:39 AM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
>> What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use 
>> power-planers and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to use 
>> the right type of hand-plane, chisels, and scrapers in case you lose 
>> electric power.
>> 
>> In terms closer to most on the list - programming in the scripting language 
>> du jour is fine for productivity, but just in case it falls out of fashion 
>> and loses support, you should be able to fall back on a HLL, and, just in 
>> case, assembly.
>> 
>> In both of my examples, learning the more primitive methods means that one 
>> learns the foundational knowledge that makes using the modern methods easier 
>> and higher in quality.
>> 
>> Ray Parks
>> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager
>> V: 505-844-4024  M: 505-238-9359  P: 505-951-6084
>> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov
>> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder)
>> JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:40 PM, glen wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> TL;DR -- but you asked...
>>> 
>>> Well, I was being purposefully provocative, of course.  When serious, I
>>> advocate agnosticism.  Use everything as often as you can.
>>> 
>>> For me, it's less about diversity and more about core skills.  In my
>>> experience (which is admittedly peculiar), the primary skill is the
>>> ability to try something out, figure out the basic use cases, then move
>>> on to the next tool.  If your purpose is to get something done, then use
>>> the first tool you try/learn that actually works. Do the job; move on.
>>> If, however, your purpose is to understand, then use as many tools as
>>> you can, taken to the extent of some predefined test.
>>> 
>>> RE: platforms.  It seems to me platforms are primarily a way to avoid
>>> learning, especially the more closed they are.  Ease of use is the bogey
>>> man.  It's the scapegoat upon which all platform closures hang their
>>> debt to society.  This is why I cringe when I hear things like "They
>>> [Apple's devices] are also the easiest to learn to use and the most
>>> durable."  This is antithetic to what I would teach a child.  If you
>>> always/only use the easiest tools to use, then you're only hurting
>>> yourself.  And you're setting yourself up to be exploited by nefarious
>>> agents.
>>> 
>>> Sure, it's OK to (mostly) use easy to use tools... but only AFTER you've
>>> become at least adequate at using the other tools in the same domain.
>>> (In fact, anyone who claims something like OS X is the easiest or most
>>> intuitive OS is just ASKING to be grilled about, say, the difference
>>> between Gnome 3 and Unity.  And if t

Re: [FRIAM] mac package management

[Joshua Thorp]

I’m content with brew these days.

And they figured out how to output a beer mug on the terminal which I still 
think is pretty cool :)

On Mar 20, 2014, at 2:34 PM, cody dooderson  wrote:

> I found a little blog entry on Mac package management.
> http://www.onthelambda.com/2013/10/14/the-state-of-package-management-on-mac-os-x/
> I have used macports and brew. Neither of which is as good as apt-get on 
> ubuntu. 
> Brew claims to conflict with macports, but in my experience you need to use 
> both because neither has all of the necessary packages.  
> Does anybody experience with pkgsrc/pkgin?
> 
> Cody Smith
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Re: [FRIAM] Major bug called 'Heartbleed' exposes Internet data

[Joshua Thorp]

according to 
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/heartbleed.html
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/55382/heartbleed-read-only-the-next-64k-and-hyping-the-threat

apparently the bug gives access to 64K chunk of ram on the server.  The private 
key might be in that chunk,  but probably won’t be…  however you will get 
different chunks over time so if you wait long enough you might end up with a 
chunk that has a private key or someone’s password.

—joshua
 
On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Hi Barry.  How would the private keys be exposed?  The pub/priv computation 
> is done locally, right?
> 
> BTW: All node servers are secure due to their ssl config turning off the 
> "heartbeat" option.  NodeWeekly:
> Node 0.8.x and 0.10.2+ Not Vulnerable to Heartbleed Issue — Popular Node 
> versions aren’t exposed to the Heartbleed vulnerability as the heartbeat 
> extension was turned off in a Node commit a year ago. Yay.
> GITHUB
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Barry MacKichan 
>  wrote:
> It is a major PITA. Certificates on affected servers (which include Amazon 
> EC2 Linus servers) may have had their private keys exposed, so certificates 
> have to be reissued with different keys. This is, apparently, a major 
> bottleneck.
> 
> —Barry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9 Apr 2014, at 21:23, Owen Densmore wrote:
> 
> Worth knowing about:
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/09/major-bug-called-heartbleed-exposes-data-across-the-internet/
> 
> Pretty serious crypto flaw.
> 
> [image: Inline image 1]
> -- Owen
> 
> [image.png]
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] compromised servers

[Joshua Thorp]

+1 for lastPass.  They do an excellent job of managing passwords,  including 
functionality for sharing passwords with others which is pretty cool.

BTW: LastPass has a new hack to provide passwords to apps and browsers on 
Android phones via accessibility functionality,  unfortunately not available on 
the IOS devices.

—joshua


On Apr 13, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> BTW: None of the pw mgrs deal with "apps", i.e. those stupid "I dont wanna be 
> a web page" things that infest our phones.
> 
> So if you have a login relating to an app, LastPass, 1Password etc will only 
> be a nice cut/paste alternative for you.
> 
> BTW: I'm curious how many of us use a pw mgr and their generated passwords.  
> I always feel a bit reluctant to give up control of my passwords to an 
> app/extension.  On the other hand it sure is secure and unique per site.
> 
> OTOH: I *really* want Google's authentication 2-factor app to be used by 
> other sites so that 2 factor can be managed by a single PIN generator.  My 
> bank still uses a dongle, alas.  Not sure about recent 2-factor use .. 
> Dropbox, for example has it I think.  I can just see it now: 50 2-factor PIN 
> generators.  Sigh.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Gary Schiltz  
> wrote:
> There are quite a few. I did a quick survey and quite a bit of reading about 
> six months ago, and in the end decided on LastPass. If you don’t care about 
> mobile devices (phones, tablets), then the free version works great. I use it 
> on all my computers, as well as a an iPhone and iPad, so I paid for the 
> premium version, which still only costs $12 per year. Your heavily encrypted 
> “vault” (store of passwords) is stored on their servers, but you password is 
> not (they all work more or less the same way).
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Apr 13, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
> 
> > I listen to a techguru on Saturday night when I am cooking dinner.  In the 
> > light of the recent security gaff (bleeding heart?  Or whatever it was.)  
> > he advised that it was now time for all of us to get LastPass? Or something 
> > like it.   What do you wise people advise for us Former English Majors.
> >
> > N
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] NetFlix Internet Share: 1/3 down, 10% up!

[Joshua Thorp]

The article lays the blame at ACK packets...


“”"
So how do Netflix customers send so much data today? The answer is mostly in 
“ACK packets,” Deeth said. Signifying “acknowledgement” that data has been 
received, ACK packets are part of the TCP’s (Transmission Control Protocol’s) 
three-way handshake that connects client devices to servers over the Internet. 
The third step of the process has the client (i.e. a Netflix subscriber) 
sending acknowledgement back to Netflix’s servers.

These ACK packets are so numerous that they can sometimes interfere with 
downloads. Internet service plans with upload speeds that are much smaller than 
download speeds exacerbate this problem, Sandvine wrote in its fall 2011 report.

“If upstream is so heavily utilized that ACKs fail to reach the sender, then 
TCP responds by backing off its sending rate, which to the subscriber means 
reduced downstream speeds and will ultimately manifest as a downgrade in video 
quality,” Sandvine wrote.
“”"

> On Nov 21, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Steve Smith  wrote:
> 
> Roger -
>> But I have no idea what I could be sending Netflix that occupies 1/4 the 
>> bandwidth that I get from them.  Are they watching me on my web cam or 
>> something?
> Yeh Nielson owns all your facial responses and what kinds of dressing you put 
> on your popcorn whilst watching movies ;)
> 
> The upstream bandwidth IS a mystery... one assumes that someone else less 
> given to idle speculation on such topics than I has already sussed this out a 
> couple more levels of indirection?!
> 
> At first I assumed that Netflix (like YouTube) had some kind of "upload 
> capability" but I'm pretty sure I'd know that if it did... and it would 
> mostly just be cute cat videos and people popping pimples.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Apple and 1984

[Joshua Thorp]

Apple has already limited the languages allowed onto the iPhone to these four.  
Beyond running JS in the safari browser they do not allow end users to have 
programmatic access to the phone (though the developers license is only $99, a 
cheap price to pay for a kid to get to develop for the phone, no?).

So its against the terms to put Flash on the phone because this would allow 
people to program for the phone outside of Apple's control.  Adobe has a work 
around in the works so that a flash program could be compiled to a "native 
executable", see http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/.  
It wouldn't allow for running arbitrary flash files off the web but would allow 
developers to re-use their app code and go through the apple market process.

This move by Apple closes a loophole that Adobe was about to take advantage of.

It is interesting that the programs must "originally" have been written in one 
of these languages.  I wonder if that would mean you couldn't write code that 
was used to generated Objective-C code? Processing does something like this 
where a processing sketch is preprocessed into a standard java classes which 
can then be compiled.  I'd bet Adobe would prefer not to have all their code be 
exposed like that anyway but does the term "originally written" keep others 
from doing this?

--joshua


On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> I'm curious what the deeper story is. Google limits their languages to C/C++, 
> Java, Python and Javascript. Is this similar or just a grudge with Adobe? Or 
> is it part of the HTML5 spec which offers a considerable simplification re: 
> plugins etc.  
> 
> Although Flash is a variant of JS, is there more to the story?  I.e. Does it, 
> or it's libraries, demand interfaces to more of the hardware than usual?  I 
> confess to not really groking Flash .. It seams to be much more than JS and 
> some libraries.  Air and other frameworks go beyond what I'd consider just a 
> language.
> 
> I also note Java is not allowed.   
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
> I am an iPad, resistance is futile!
> 
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Stephen Guerin  wrote:
> 
>> Apple is dictating apps must be written in approved languages.
>> "Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or 
>> JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written 
>> in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the 
>> Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an 
>> intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited)."
>> 
>> Wasn't newspeak an official language :-)
>> 
>> from wikipedia:
>> "Newspeak is closely based on English but has a greatly reduced and 
>> simplified vocabulary and grammar. This suits the totalitarian regime of the 
>> Party, whose aim is to make any alternative thinking—"thoughtcrime", or 
>> "crimethink" in the newest edition of Newspeak—impossible by removing any 
>> words or possible constructs which describe the ideas of freedom, rebellion 
>> and so on."
>> 
>> http://www.gizmag.com/apple-iphone-os-4-adobe/14781/
>> http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888
>> 
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Apple and 1984

[Joshua Thorp]

Yes a very telling oversight on my part.  I'm very happy with OSX -- but it 
ships with fine development tools.  

Another good post on this: 
http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2273-five-rational-arguments-against-apples-331-policy

--joshua

Saul Caganoff  wrote:

>All you need is a $99 developers licence and *a Mac computer. *Suddenly the
>price goes up considerably (particularly for those of us in Windows-land or
>Linux-land)I'm not aware of any iPhone dev environment that runs on
>anything other than Mac.
>
>Regards,
>Saul
>
>On 13 April 2010 02:53, Joshua Thorp  wrote:
>
>> Apple has already limited the languages allowed onto the iPhone to these
>> four.  Beyond running JS in the safari browser they do not allow end users
>> to have programmatic access to the phone (though the developers license is
>> only $99, a cheap price to pay for a kid to get to develop for the phone,
>> no?).
>>
>> So its against the terms to put Flash on the phone because this would allow
>> people to program for the phone outside of Apple's control.  Adobe has a
>> work around in the works so that a flash program could be compiled to a
>> "native executable", see
>> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/.  It wouldn't
>> allow for running arbitrary flash files off the web but would allow
>> developers to re-use their app code and go through the apple market process.
>>
>> This move by Apple closes a loophole that Adobe was about to take advantage
>> of.
>>
>> It is interesting that the programs must "originally" have been written in
>> one of these languages.  I wonder if that would mean you couldn't write code
>> that was used to generated Objective-C code? Processing does something like
>> this where a processing sketch is preprocessed into a standard java classes
>> which can then be compiled.  I'd bet Adobe would prefer not to have all
>> their code be exposed like that anyway but does the term "originally
>> written" keep others from doing this?
>>
>> --joshua
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>>
>> > I'm curious what the deeper story is. Google limits their languages to
>> C/C++, Java, Python and Javascript. Is this similar or just a grudge with
>> Adobe? Or is it part of the HTML5 spec which offers a considerable
>> simplification re: plugins etc.
>> >
>> > Although Flash is a variant of JS, is there more to the story?  I.e. Does
>> it, or it's libraries, demand interfaces to more of the hardware than usual?
>>  I confess to not really groking Flash .. It seams to be much more than JS
>> and some libraries.  Air and other frameworks go beyond what I'd consider
>> just a language.
>> >
>> > I also note Java is not allowed.
>> >
>> > Owen
>> >
>> >
>> > I am an iPad, resistance is futile!
>> >
>> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Stephen Guerin 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Apple is dictating apps must be written in approved languages.
>> >> "Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or
>> JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written
>> in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the
>> Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an
>> intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited)."
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't newspeak an official language :-)
>> >>
>> >> from wikipedia:
>> >> "Newspeak is closely based on English but has a greatly reduced and
>> simplified vocabulary and grammar. This suits the totalitarian regime of the
>> Party, whose aim is to make any alternative thinking—"thoughtcrime", or
>> "crimethink" in the newest edition of Newspeak—impossible by removing any
>> words or possible constructs which describe the ideas of freedom, rebellion
>> and so on."
>> >>
>> >> http://www.gizmag.com/apple-iphone-os-4-adobe/14781/
>> >> http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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[FRIAM] ** reminder today ** Wedtech Lecture: Dr. Eric Blinman - NEW MEXICO POTTERY TYPOLOGIES

[Joshua Thorp]

** today **

TITLE: DATA SHARING FOR NEW MEXICO POTTERY TYPOLOGIES

SPEAKER:   Dr. Eric Blinman, Director, Office of Archaeological Studies New 
Mexico

Wednesday August 11, 12.30p
Santa Fe Complex Commons, 632 Agua Fria Street

Lunch will be available for purchase for $7

ABSTRACT:  The study of ancient Southwestern pottery should be simple. Someone 
makes a pot, it breaks, an archaeologist picks up the sherds, sorts and counts 
them, and writes up a report. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) things aren’t 
that simple.

4,000 years of changing technologies, traditions, styles, trade relationships, 
migrations, and uses of pots get in the way on the front end, and variations 
over the past century in the training, experience, and goals of archaeologists 
get in the way on the back end. Variation on the front end is meaningful data 
about cultural adaptation that we want to understand, not control. Variation on 
the back end needs to be controlled as much as possible, which means finding a 
way to effectively share data and interpretations throughout a poorly 
integrated discipline.
Data sharing hasn’t been attempted at a regional scale in the past 50 years in 
part because it has been so difficult to find a way to organize and present the 
rapidly developing picture of front end variation. We want to take a stab at 
this through the design of a web-based tool for archaeological pottery 
information.

In this talk, Eric Blinman, director of the New Mexico Office of Archaeological 
Studies, will outline the complexities inherent in understanding and 
classifying pottery traditions across 2000+ years of New Mexico history and 
describe the office’s interest in creating a collaborative web-based 
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Re: [FRIAM] Wedtech

[Joshua Thorp]

Can we record this one on video?  I think it will be historic.  And I can't 
make it. :(


--joshua





On May 23, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Edward Angel wrote:

> Were going to have another wedtech roundtable this Wed at noon that will 
> focus on doing agent based models using modern shader-based OpenGL (versions 
> 3.1 and up, ES 2..0 and WebGL). I'll show some demos and discuss the use of 
> frame buffer objects for rendering to texture and then using double buffered 
> textures for imaging operations. I'll show some examples that are close to 
> what you need to build a net logo equivalent in OpenGL.
> 
> Ed
> __
> 
> Ed Angel
> 
> Chair, Board of Directors, Santa Fe Complex
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
> 
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> Santa Fe, NM 87501
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

[Joshua Thorp]

>  (mail, contacts, calendar, music, bookmarks, ...)

Which of these didn't google have in the cloud before apple? ;) 




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Re: [FRIAM] Apple Stops Samsung From Selling the Galaxy Tab in the European Union

[Joshua Thorp]

Don't you think Apple has been rewarded for all of these things?  What more do 
they need?


On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> Interesting quote from the URL you posted:
> Ultimately, the U.S. Department of Justice intervened, forcing Microsoft to 
> sell the patents it bought and demanding that the winning group (Microsoft, 
> Oracle, Apple, EMC) give a license to the open-source community, changes the 
> DoJ said were “necessary to protect competition and innovation in the open 
> source software community.” This only reaffirms our point: Our competitors 
> are waging a patent war on Android and working together to keep us from 
> getting patents that would help balance the scales.
> 
> So basically, I think Android as an open source based OS is pretty safe, save 
> for Oracle's claim it violates the Java Community Process.
> 
> Apple's attack is likely to be more difficult.  Android clearly has a very 
> iPhone-y UI, and the carriers/manufacturers (Samsung for example) tend to 
> make it even more so.
> 
> iPhone changed the industry, even forcing ATT to create new monthly data 
> plans.  It was a breath taking change.  I don't like Apple's hegemony but 
> they clearly need protection from copy-cat devices and services.  It really 
> does look odd that as soon as Apple's brilliant creativity nailed a new 
> market, built a brilliant device, created the "App" market and distribution 
> scheme .. you see exactly the same thing in the Android world.
> 
> Subtle: I do think creativity should be rewarded.
> 
>-- Owen
> 
> PS: Interestingly enough, many Apps are still not available on Android.  One 
> reason, apparently, is that Android devices have a large number differences, 
> making a single Android app difficult.  Apple, on the other hand, makes it 
> increasingly easy to write one app for iPad, iPhone, iPod .. and with Lion, 
> even "computers".
> 
> Reminds me of the microsoft problem: app developers would have liked to have 
> a Mac product too, but found keeping up with all the versions of windows hard 
> enough to make Mac development not worth it.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:
> Google suggested last week ( 
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/when-patents-attack-android.html ) 
> that everything Android is under a coordinated attack.   The evidence is that 
> Apple and Microsoft are colluding to bid up patent portfolios to several 
> times their face value which prevents Google from gaining ownership of any 
> patents that could be used to defend Android.
> 
> It could be a very interesting anti-trust proceeding since the evidence is 
> all out there in plain sight.  
> 
> -- rec --
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> Whoa!  I knew Apple was after Google for its Java architecture, but now the 
> Samsung Tab for UI:
> http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=16416
> 
> I'll be a bit unpopular here and say, Yes, it really does look like Samsung 
> did very little original work here .. after all they're a hardware outfit 
> doing little more than cosmetic "branding".
> 
> But it's based on Android, so shouldn't Google be the target?  I suppose it 
> is, but Samsung is getting the brunt of it all.
> 
> This is going to be quite a battle .. looking at the article's image, the 
> average consumer would have assumed it was a nice, smaller sized addition to 
> the iDevice line.
> 
> In the phone world, I know Google has a "standard UI" and that most handset 
> manufacturers mess with it to be their own (often making a mess of things and 
> wasting your battery for you!).  It seems Android phones have not had this 
> level of patent threat from Apple.  The OS is certainly not an infringement.  
> But I guess the UI and look-alike design is under attack.
> 
> -- Owen
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Delicious Alternative

[Joshua Thorp]

If you use multiple computers, multiple browsers or want to access your 
bookmarks from a friends computer this service can be useful.  

I've been using trunk.ly.   Nothing special that I notice but works as a 
replacement for how I was using delicious.

--joshua


On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Robert, and others,
>  
> Another one of those naïve questions that drive you guys nuts:
>  
> Why would I want a book marking service beyond what is provided by my 
> browser?  [firefox] Not a rhetorical question.
>  
> N
>  
> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf 
> Of Robert Holmes
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:49 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Delicious Alternative
>  
> pinboard.in
>  
> It's a one-off cost of ~$10 but it's a really clean design that I find easier 
> to use than the old delicious
>  
> —R
> 
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jochen Fromm  wrote:
> The new Delicious really sucks, what kind of bookmarking service are you 
> using now? Any recommendations? Is Diigo a good alternative?
>  
> -J.
> 
> Sent from Android
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Amazon.com: The Wisdom of Crowds: Books: James Surowiecki

[Joshua Thorp]

Apropos the wisdom of crowds and web 2.0, Jaron Lanier wrote a  
combative essay for the Edge about the new "Digital Maoism".  Part of  
it seems to be a standard libertarian rant on the importance of  
individualism and may be a bit attacking the forest without  
acknowledging it is actually made up of trees but is interesting none- 
the-less.  As are the many rebuttals.

For those interested in wikipedia bashing or hive mind dialogue:
http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge183.html

--joshua


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Re: [FRIAM] The Hive Mind and The Wisdom of Crowds

[Joshua Thorp]

Sorry Jochen just got to reading this yesterday though I opened it  
when I sent it.  Forgot where I had gotten it from!

The hive mind strikes again!

--joshua


On Jun 15, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:

>
> Collective efforts vs. individual creativity:
>
> The Hazards of the New Online Collectivism
> http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge183.html
>
> The Rise of Crowdsourcing
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/crowds.html
>
> -J.
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Seaside (Smalltalk web development framework)

[Joshua Thorp]

On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:While possible, the idea that  university or hobby software can be better than software developed by a  multi-billion dollar corporations doesn't jump out as a likely scenario.  Interoperability is God, and failing to provide it is a fine reason for  a software project to fail! If you are a multi-billion dollar company why interoperate?  Just declare the rest of the market for suckers and dilettantes.  Unfortunately for billion dollar companies its turtles all the way down and they struggle mightily just to interoperate with their own products--and largely fail.  Seems to me the very concept of a multi-billion dollar company as software producer put up against small groups of hackers is absurd anyway.  It really hinges on the make up of the small teams of people inside that large capital structure that are doing the real work anyway.  Plenty of fine coders exist inside and out of such large companies and depending on management and marketing or acquisitions they may have more or less time to deliver a finished product.  But more often than not,  though a billion dollar company may be good at well crafted design process, I would bet they find their best ideas from  those who do something for the sake of art as an amateur,  or to push forward the frontier of ideas as a scholar.  'Can't we all just get along?'What we are talking around here is just as personal as race and politics--where do you fall on the artist<--scientist-->engineer spectrum.  Engineers are most comfortable in slow moving vehicles with plenty of restraints and air bags.  Artists are most happy in new concept cars that are untried and untested--they might die but at least it will be a statement of some sort.  And of course testing cars is for scientists.  (Some may quibble with this,  but I would have to say check out the difference between math departments in an Engineering school versus an arts and sciences school -- Engineers are most comfortable working with equations from a table and processes from a lab manual,  scientists get a big kick out of deriving equations that are already in that engineering text.  And I think artists are largely there for the drugs and the women..)  I couldn't imagine the same languages appealing to all three crowds.  And why should they?We can certainly tell a lot by the tools a person uses (and the company they keep).  And if you don't like engineers I would say better to avoid C++,  project managers,  and multi-billion dollar companies.  Another angle to this whole mess is that it is possible to write very unstable and largely un-useful code in C++,  it just takes a long time to get there.  If you want, you can get there faster in python.--joshua  
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Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe New Mexican: Kim Sorvig

[Joshua Thorp]

Hear,  Hear!

--joshua

On Sep 17, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> A FRIAM'er appears in this Sunday's paper:
> http://216.17.87.51/ee/newmexican/?
> token=23ac7d3bcf4ea3a3a9e79f99a365cf3e
> or http://tinyurl.com/m3xom
> Click on Section F, Then on the right column or on the
> "Backtrack: .." link.
>
> Or just get a pdf here:
> http://backspaces.net/files/SantaFeNewMexican-KimOpinion.pdf
>
>  -- Owen
>
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[FRIAM] LIES, DAMN LIES, AND....

[Joshua Thorp]

...Statistics

Interesting blog piece on bias and data massaging in political  
science articles.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_09/009531.php



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Re: [FRIAM] LIES, DAMN LIES, AND....

[Joshua Thorp]

I know that I can easily reveal my statitics ignorance here,  but why can a site like:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htmnot have any mention of confidence intervals,  or standard error numbers?  The headline is Bush up 1 point.  In a survey of 1500 people,  is that news or noise? On Sep 20, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:It must be working for the Republicans.  Bush's approval rating popped back up to 44% recently.  I contend that if that many people actually approve of Bush, then America deserves him. On 9/20/06, Joshua Thorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...StatisticsInteresting blog piece on bias and data massaging in politicalscience articles.http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_09/009531.php FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservMeets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Collegelectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at  http://www.friam.org-- Doug Roberts, RTI International[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 505-455-7333 - Office505-670-8195 - CellFRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservMeets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Collegelectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org 
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Re: [FRIAM] Google pwns you

[Joshua Thorp]

Guess I better start putting my name on my code!But I have to say this is really cool.  For instance I was reading about a fast inverse square root method that uses the magic number:0x5f3759dfwhich was improved by Chris Lamont to use the number:0x5f375a86both of which reveal a whole set of interesting mathematics/computer graphics code libraries.And ironically also brought up the slashdot (juveniles) initial search,  on "fuck" which ultimately leads to the most reassuring comments in source code: "Shit happens" .For those interested the method is used in a processing library for particle physics:http://www.cs.princeton.edu/%7Etraer/physics/paper here:http://www.lomont.org/Math/Papers/2003/InvSqrt.pdf--joshua
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Re: [FRIAM] FW: Distribution / Parallelization of ABM's

[Joshua Thorp]

I came across this interesting doc on garbage collection in java:
http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc5.0/gc_tuning_5.html

which notes:
"""
...virtual machines for the JavaTM platform up to and including  
version 1.3.1 do not have parallel garbage collection, so the impact  
of garbage collection on a multiprocessor system grows relative to an  
otherwise parallel application.

The graph below models an ideal system that is perfectly scalable  
with the exception of garbage collection. The red line is an  
application spending only 1% of the time in garbage collection on a  
uniprocessor system. This translates to more than a 20% loss in  
throughput on 32 processor systems. At 10% of the time in garbage  
collection (not considered an outrageous amount of time in garbage  
collection in uniprocessor applications) more than 75% of throughput  
is lost when scaling up to 32 processors.

"""

I hadn't looked at Java's GC for a while.  It has gotten very  
complicated!  I wonder if they have parallelized the GC.  As the  
quote above comes from a document for java 5.0 apparently not...

--joshua

On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

> Laszlo sent the same request out to the NAACSOS list, too. Here's a  
> response
> that may be interesting to FRIAM-folk.
>
> -Steve
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Les Gasser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:14 PM
>> To: Laszlo Gulyas
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Distribution / Parallelization of ABM's
>>
>> NAACSOS - http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/naacsos/
>> Laszlo, below are links to five papers that address various
>> aspects of these issues, part of a stream of work over about
>> a 20 year period.
>> These cover conceptualizations, requirements, approaches,
>> scaling issues, etc. (Also available through
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/).
>>
>> Others have also worked in these areas, going back to Lesser
>> et al.'s work distributing HEARSAY (papers of Lesser &
>> Fennel; Lesser & Erman); Ed Durfee's MS thesis at UMASS in
>> the early 1980s on distributing a distributed problem solving
>> simulator, Dan Corkill's work on parallelizing blackboard
>> systems at UMASS, early 1990s (others worked on this too).
>> References to all this are availble via
>> http://mas.cs.umass.edu/pub/ and it has been quite inspiring
>> to me personally.  More recently there is also Brian Logan
>> and Georgios Theorodopoulos' work on distributing MAS,
>> concerning especially dealing with environment models as
>> points of serialization.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> -- Les
>>
>> Les Gasser, Kelvin Kakugawa, Brant Chee and Marc Esteva
>> "Smooth Scaling Ahead: Progressive MAS Simulation from Single
>> PCs to Grids"
>> in Paul Davidsson, Brian Logan, and Keiki Takadama (Eds.)
>> Multi-Agent and Multi-Agent-Based Simulation.
>> Lecture Notes in Computer Science 3415, Springer, 2005
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/gasser-etal-mamabs04- 
>> final.pdf
>>
>> Les Gasser and Kelvin Kakugawa.
>> "MACE3J: Fast Flexible Distributed Simulation of Large,
>> Large-Grain Multi-Agent Systems."
>> In Proceedings of AAMAS-2002.
>> [Finalist for Best Paper Award at this conference.]
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/mace3j-aamas02-pap.pdf
>>
>> Les Gasser.
>> "MAS Infrastructure Definitions, Needs, Prospects,"
>> in Thomas Wagner and Omer Rana, editors, Infrastructure for
>> Agents, Multi-Agent Systems, and Scalable Multi-Agent
>> Systems, Springer-Verlag, 2001 Also appears in ICFAI Journal
>> of Managerial Economics, 11:2, May, 2004, pp 35-45.
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/masidnp-08-with-table.pdf
>>
>> Les Gasser.
>> "Agents and Concurrent Objects."
>> IEEE Concurrency, 6(4) pp. 74-77&81, October-December, 1998.
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/AgentsAndObjects-07.html
>>
>> Les Gasser, Carl Braganza, and Nava Herman.
>> "MACE: A Flexible Testbed for Distributed AI Research"
>> in Michael N. Huhns, ed.
>> Distributed Artificial Intelligence
>> Pitman Publishers, 1987, 119-152.
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/gasser-braganza-herman
>> -mace-a-flexible-testbed-for-dai-research-1987.ps
>> http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~gasser/papers/gasser-braganza-herman
>> -mace-a-flexible-testbed-for-dai-research-1987.pdf
>>
>>
>> Laszlo Gulyas wrote:
>>> NAACSOS - http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/naacsos/
>>> [ Apologies for cross-postings. ]
>>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> We are compiling a survey on techniques to parallelize agent-based
>>> simulations. We are interested in both in-run and inter-run
>>> parallelizations (i.e., when one distributes the agents and
>> when one
>>> distributes individual runs in a parameter sweep), albeit I
>> think, the
>>> more challenging part is the former.
>>>
>>> We are aware that in-run parallelization is a non-trivial task and,
>>> what's more, it is likely that it cannot be done in general. Our
>>> approach is trying to collect 'communication t

[FRIAM] Interesting Political Graph

[Joshua Thorp]

http://tinyurl.com/sbgw9

The New York Times has an interesting graphic showing party  
affiliation  of those who were 20 in a given year.  Interesting  
cyclical nature.  Apparantly the most republican age group right now  
is 36...

--joshua



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Re: [FRIAM] Distro, distro, .. which is best!

[Joshua Thorp]

Another flame war!  Why can't we all just get along?  Just kidding...

I have been using linux since 1995.  First slackware on desktop and  
thinkpad (the vintage butterfly keyboard model),  then a sony vaio  
with an old defunct distro called "storm" based on Debian which had  
probably one of the smoothest installs ever.. Followed by red hat and  
mandrake/mandriva.  Lately my home server runs Gentoo-- which used to  
always be up to date but has fallen behind this past year,  but it  
still has uptimes of months (generally between electric grid  
failures).  This week I installed kubuntu on my intel macbook using  
'parallels'.

I would have to say that though I mostly ran fvwm and gnome as my X  
Window Manager,  KDE has increasingly been the enticing green grass  
in the neighbor's yard.  Just because it seems to be more integrated  
and OSX has made me partial to well integrated systems,  thus taking  
Kubuntu, a KDE based Ubuntu distro, for a spin.

Finally, the New Mexico super computer challenge is using a specially  
tailored Edubuntu distro for this year's kickoff.  As they use a lot  
of donated hardware from the labs they had a handful of funky pc/ 
monitor combos that required re-running the XWinows install but  
beyond that appeared to run incredibly smoothly.  Interesting to note  
that a similar lab of Windows based machines would not have gone  
nearly as smoothly--and the licenses for that many windows XP seats  
(maybe 60+) would have been huge.

http://www.edubuntu.org/
http://www.kubuntu.org/

http://challenge.nm.org/

--joshua


On Oct 20, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> OK, Doug has brought up a point I've wondered about.
>
> Friamers .. another question .. well three actually .. for you all:
>- Which Linux desktop distros have you used?
>- Which distro do/did you like best?
>- What hardware did you run it on?
>
> Years ago at Sun I was a RedHat + Gnome user .. indeed in 2000-2002,
> it, on the Thinkpad hardware, had taken over SunLabs.  We even put it
> in our JavaCar and found it worked with most of the weird drivers we
> needed.
>
> It was a bit hard to get going on laptops, however.  Audio was quite
> difficult, requiring rebuilding the kernel with new drivers, and
> getting the Sleep function to work correctly was tough.  But all in
> all, RedHat + Gnome + Thinkpad was quite successful.  Gnome was even
> available on Solaris, so the interoperability was great between the
> Sun servers and the laptops.
>
> So anyone else out there taken on the Linux desktop challenge?
>
>  -- Owen
>
> Owen Densmore   http://backspaces.net
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Douglas Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: October 20, 2006 6:26:33 AM MDT
>> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group"
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Leopard vs. Vista
>> Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> 
>>
>> Mandriva 2007 'la Ora' with KDE 3.5.4 (and a slew of whatever other
>> packages you prefer)..
>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/2007
>>
>> On 10/20/06, fromm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What do you think is more impressive,
>> advanced and useful, the new..
>>
>> ..Mac OS X Leopard with "Time Machine",
>> "Spotlight" and "Ruby on Rails"..
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html
>>
>> ..or the new Windows Vista
>> with Aero, WPF and WCF ?
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] voting machine tampering

[Joshua Thorp]

I was quite surprised that when I voted using this system,  the machine actually reported that I had voted for and against  an amendment (I had filled in the wrong bubble by mistake and figured I could at least burn my vote on this issue by filling in the other bubble -- perhaps a wrong headed move but really the amendment wasn't that important to me either way).  The machine however informed me of this issue and spit out my ballot,  at which point the minder asked what was wrong I told him I had intentionally voted this way and he said no problem and proceeded to place my ballot in a spoiled ballot envelope after instructing me to fold it up.  Then gave me a new ballot to fill out.I like that the machine was checking for such errors...but I wish it was easier to change my vote after making such a mistake--  electronic voting may have let me undo a vote more quickly.  But I do think a paper ballot should be produced by the machine--I would like a physical trace of my vote to persist to allow for recounts.  The idea of a purely electronic recount is absurd--what is it going to recount?  How could it come up with a different answer from before?  With paper at least in principle I could review the document before casting as I did on saturday...--joshuaOn Nov 7, 2006, at 4:54 PM, J T Johnson wrote:I voted late in morning in Santa Fe.  Our paper ballot had candidates on one side, bond issues on the other.  We filled in a circle with a ballpoint pen.  After filling the ballot, we took it to a guy who instructed us to feed the ballot into a scanner/reader.  I did so, and the ballot disappeared.  Not knowing that it scanned both sides on one pass, I waited a moment for it to pop back out so I could feed it to capture the other side. I said the to guy, "What about the other side?"  He panicked.  "You mean you didn't fill it out?" he said.  When I assured him I had, he was quite visibly relieved.  "Boy, if you hadn't, it sure would have messed up the system."  Seems to me it should have been his job to visually check it before telling me to feed it in, butMy long-winded point, though: I bet that, at least in New Mexico, there may be a larger-than-expected discrepancy between the number of votes cast for candidates and the votes cast on the bond issues.  If so, that might not mean any skulduggery was involved. PS: I just received my sixth or seventh call in 24 hrs from my "new" best friend, Gov. Bill Richardson reminding me, this time, that the polls are closing in a few hours.  I do hope someone is doing a "how long until they hang up" analysis to try an determine an aggravation threshold. -tomOn 11/6/06, Michael Gizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was impressed that when I voted on Friday (Colorado has early voting), that the touch screen was attached to a printer that printed out each of my responses.  This was not present when voting in 2004; sure... its still possible to mess with the system, but the print out provides a bit more confidence on the part of the voter.  Michael Gizzi==J. T. JohnsonInstitute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)http://www.jtjohnson.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."    -- Buckminster Fuller==FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservMeets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Collegelectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org 
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[FRIAM] Mashup Curiosity

[Joshua Thorp]

An intreresting project to create an automated news cast:

www.newsatseven.com

Brings news articles delivered by avatars from a 3D shooter game  
together with stock video footage and commentary plucked from the  
blogosphere.  Can fall flat but can also be fairly interesting.

--joshua



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Re: [FRIAM] The yin and yang of numbers across cultures

[Joshua Thorp]

Then there is Euler's Formula which gives:  e^(i*PI) + 1 = 0

<>

http://agutie.homestead.com/files/Eulerformula.htm

For more about the formula, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Euler_formula


--joshua


On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Martin C. Martin wrote:


Pi shows up in many areas that have nothing to do with geometry.  For
example, the integral of exp(-x^2) over the whole real line is sqrt 
(Pi).
Also, the infinite series 1/1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11  
+ ... =

Pi/4.

- Martin

David Mirly wrote:

Is pi really inherent throughout the universe?

Won't the concept of pi break down in the presence of sufficiently
strong gravity?
i.e. Euclidian plane geometry is only a good approximation for our
"normal/every day" applications.


On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  


wrote:


There seems to be a constant about the nature of number across all
cultures: that they have a magically aspect and seem to be an  
integral
part of the nature of the universe.  Of course some numbers seem  
to be

more magic than others, e.g. Pi.  Why numbers are inherent in the
universe is another interesting question considering wave and field
theory. Magic?

cheers Paul Paryski

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Re: [FRIAM] General-Purpose Computing on a Semantic Network Substrate

[Joshua Thorp]

Marko,

Redfish is very interested in this.  I especially like this line of  
thinking:


From 4.9:

...Once the Fhat RVM has
completed computing that particular RDF sub-network, it can halt and  
another CPU can
pick up the process on a yet another area of the RDF network that  
needs computing by the
RDF software. In this model of computing, data doesn’t move to the  
process, the process

moves to the data.


We are interested in models for distributed computing that can easily  
exist in very heterogeneous environments such as high performance  
computers/web service servers/desktop PCs down to phones and other  
specialized network devices with low levels of resources,  but  
interestingly also lowest latency with regard to the so called 'user'.


Would this new language make managing data and process on multiple  
computers easier to program for in a more general sense?  How do we  
make a network based computer that gets us away from having to worry   
about where a particular data set is -- or where a particular process  
is running?  I know this is focused on the semantic web but can this  
help me deal with manageing my many overlapping data streams that I  
want available on any computer I come in contact with -- such as  
model output or more importantly digital photos,  mp3s,  and videos?


I think a wed-tech talk would be very welcome.

--joshua

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On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Marko A. Rodriguez wrote:



LANL is currently building a compiler and virtual machine that is  
compliant with the specification in the paper. If RedFish is  
interested, perhaps in a month or two, I could demo this computing  
paradigm at a Wednesday tech session.





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[FRIAM] Swarm Intelligence in National Geographic

[Joshua Thorp]

Interesting article in National Geographic:
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature5/

From slashdot with interesting commentary:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/07/05/1244224.shtml

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[FRIAM] Google Sky

[Joshua Thorp]

Really pretty cool,  the globe becomes planetarium:
http://www.ogleearth.com/2007/08/putting_google.html

Interesting bit about the potential for real time event tracking in  
google earth with kmls.


--joshua

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[FRIAM] Discussion Groups -- Computer Geer-heads amongst us

[Joshua Thorp]

Here is a question for the computer geer-heads (or gamers) out there:

Redfish has been been working on yet-another-multi-touch-light-table  
project for Agent-Based-Models (or YAMTLiT for ABMs).  We have  
finally gotten within reach of a fully working prototype.


We need a nice dual-core or core duo computer dedicated to the  
table.  It needs to punch for the machine vision part -- but would be  
extra special if it could run a decent model visualization at the  
same time.


But we want to do it in such a way as that the table remains  
affordable -- what would people suggest for around $500-600 in the  
way of a bare bones computer with a decent graphics card?  Is it  
possible?


I have been happily ensconced in mac-believe-land and haven't really  
been keeping track with PC architecture -- however my 'ancient' 2 ghz  
intel core duo macbook pro does well enough for our purposes. It  
could use a little extra punch for the machine vision/model combo.  
Anyone know what a desktop PC equivalent would look like?


--joshua

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[FRIAM] Ironpython / spreadsheet round trip --> web application

[Joshua Thorp]

Very interesting "nerd's spreadsheet" and a potential big win for  
IronPython/.NET


A spreadsheet that is round tripped with equivalent Ironpython code   
(changes made to code or spreadsheet show up in the other view).   
Which can then be served up on the web as an application simply by  
saving the file to a particular directory...


Looks like the perfect spreadsheet environment for ABM,  if such a  
thing were to exist...


from:
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/09/28/1518246.shtml

http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/09/27/first-look-at-resolver-an- 
ironpython-based-spreadsheet/


meanwhile Excel 2007 has this interesting behaviour -- :
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.excel/browse_thread/ 
thread/2bcad1a1a4861879/2f8806d5400dfe22?hl=en#2f8806d5400dfe22



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Re: [FRIAM] nodebox for visualization?

[Joshua Thorp]

I've really enjoyed using Processing.  The latest versions now allow  
multiple sketches open at once and have really made their IDE tool  
very fun to use.  I think it makes Java a lot more fun,  though it is  
trailing the Java curve,  I think it is up to Java 1.4 now..

I've not tried nodebox but it looks very interesting,  though less  
interactive.

--joshua



On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote:

> Howdy Friamers - just curious if anyone's had good experiences using
> Nodebox (and/or Processing) for visualizations and/or simulations.
>
> (nodebox.net and processing.org)
>
> -- 
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>
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Re: [FRIAM] OLPC in Santa Fe

[Joshua Thorp]

On Dec 23, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:

I have not been able to connect to my home WiFi net because,  
according to the OLPC website, the software does not yet allow  
connections to a WAP router.  Can that be fixed?


Is that a WPA router?  If so there looks like there may be progress  
on that front:


http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WPA_Manual_Setting
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[FRIAM] Fwd: OLPC in Santa Fe

[Joshua Thorp]

Begin forwarded message:


From: Joshua Thorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: December 23, 2007 2:06:23 PM MST
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  


Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OLPC in Santa Fe

I received one on Friday afternoon.  I am incredibly impressed with  
the computer and the software -- I can't wait to see what these  
computers do when they meet each other,  this computer is  
revolutionary in the sense that it has been built with mesh- 
networking as a basic assumption (at least that is the promise).


I'm so impressed, I have even started my first blog just so that I  
could blog about my experiences with the XO.


http://stigmergicproductions.net/drupal/

--joshua


On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:48 PM, joseph spinden wrote:


I just ordered one.  No ETA yet.

JS



Owen Densmore wrote:


OK, two things re: the XO:

1 - How many of us have or will get an XO, probably via the  
Give1Get1

program?
 I have one coming before Jan 15 according to a recent email  
from

them.  Claiborne has one.  Tom Johnson is getting one.  Ditto Carl
Tollander.  That's 4.  Could the rest of us getting one shout out  
too?


2 - What would be a good (educational?) project to do on one or more
of them?
 The wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/ has a pointer to the  
software:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_components
The good news is that there is an emulator for folks not having  
an XO:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO

-- Owen

On Dec 23, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:



Nice story of Claiborne with OLPC at FRIAM in the NewMexican.
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Connecting_the_world

-Stephen



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Friam-ers --

If memory serves, several of us participated in the One
Laptop Per Child Give1Get1 program.  I received mine
yesterday and the NEW MEXICAN may be interested in doing a
story.  Perhaps we can bring them this Friday.

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Re: [FRIAM] barcamp Santa Fe wiki

[Joshua Thorp]

http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe


On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Patrick Reilly wrote:

> Can someone send me a link to the wiki?
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Don Begley wrote:
>
>> Those of you who are participating in the barcamp this weekend: the
>> password for the wiki is c4mp. Please feel free to update the pages
>> with information about yourselves and your presentations. we'll use
>> the wiki during the barcamp to record our activities so you'll be  
>> able
>> to continue the updates through the session.
>>
>> Thanks for registering and supporting this first barcamp in Santa Fe.
>> We'll begin at 1:30 Friday afternoon though I believe Steve will be
>> sending an invitation to FRIAM to meet at 632 Agua Fria that morning
>> for a tour of the Santa Fe Complex facility.
>>
>> ---
>> Don Begley
>> Managing Director
>> Santa Fe Complex
>> 624 Agua Fria
>> Santa Fe, NM 87501
>>
>> www.santafecomplex.org
>> 505-216-7562
>> 505.670.9432 (cell)
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] barcamp Santa Fe wiki

[Joshua Thorp]

What is the theme for the BarCamp?




On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Don Begley wrote:

> Those of you who are participating in the barcamp this weekend: the
> password for the wiki is c4mp. Please feel free to update the pages
> with information about yourselves and your presentations. we'll use
> the wiki during the barcamp to record our activities so you'll be able
> to continue the updates through the session.
>
> Thanks for registering and supporting this first barcamp in Santa Fe.
> We'll begin at 1:30 Friday afternoon though I believe Steve will be
> sending an invitation to FRIAM to meet at 632 Agua Fria that morning
> for a tour of the Santa Fe Complex facility.
>
> ---
> Don Begley
> Managing Director
> Santa Fe Complex
> 624 Agua Fria
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
>
> www.santafecomplex.org
> 505-216-7562
> 505.670.9432 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] office stuff/computers for sale cheap in Santa Fe

[Joshua Thorp]

Any time when I could drop by to check the things out?  I'll take the  
other linux computer if it hasn't gone yet.


--joshua

---
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Redfish Group
624 Agua Fria, Santa Fe, NM




On Apr 26, 2008, at 11:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry if this is off-topic.

I'm closing my santa fe office, in the Sanbusco Center.
Have some stuff I don't really feel like moving.

Let me know if you are interested.
Gotta be out by Wednesday evening.

please email me directly: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cheers,
Jim


Linux Computer 2.1Ghz, 2Gig mem $50
Linux Computer dual 2.1 Ghz, 2Gig mem $70
6' desk, light colored wood $25
Small dark wood kitchen style table $10
office table, 6'. non folding $20
office table, folding $10
full size bookcase $20
GE 1/2 size fridge $40
various framed AnselAdams and sailing pix $5 each
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Re: [FRIAM] Processing API ported to Javascript

[Joshua Thorp]

Too bad it is slash dotted...

Very exciting.

--joshua


On May 9, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

>> From /. this morning:
>
> The Processing API is now partially implemented in Javascript by  
> John Resig.
> wow. This could allow for some very speedy development times for web- 
> based
> visualizations without loading the Java JVM, Flash or Shockwave in a  
> browser.
> http://ejohn.org/blog/processingjs/
>
> This is very related to what Greg Malone is working on with his  
> Javascript-based
> Game Engines...
>
> -S
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[FRIAM] Complexity Science movie?

[Joshua Thorp]

Can anyone think of a movie or scene in a movie that exemplifies  
complexity science themes,  such as many interacting parts with  
emergent patterns, non-linear behaviors, self organizing,  etc.


Any thoughts?

--joshua




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Re: [FRIAM] Mentalism and Calculus

[Joshua Thorp]

You can also look at this as being undefined for the point,  but  
defined for an interval on the curve which is arbitrarily close to  
that point.


--joshua



On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

In differential geometry a curve with a given parameterization has a  
velocity at a point.  This is not a category error; it’s a definition.


Frank

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
On Behalf Of Robert Holmes

Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Friday Morning Applied  
Complexity Coffee Group

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Mentalism and Calculus

This is based on nothing more than reading the entry on categories athttp://plato.stanford.edu/entries/categories/ 
 so please take with a pinch of salt...


It seems that the tools necessary to construct category systems are  
severely broken. Specifically, there is no generally accepted method  
for distinguishing between categories. For example, the Ryle/Husserl  
method boils down to a highly subjective notion of whether a  
statement is absurd or not. That means it's perfectly possible for  
Nick to see a category error ("it's crazy to say that a point can  
have position and velocity") and me not to see one ("nothing wrong  
with a point having position and velocity") and we can both be right.


IMHO, this means that category theory really can't tell us very much  
about calculus.


Robert

On 7/8/08, Nicholas Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All who have patience,

Once of the classic critiques of mentalism  the belief that  
behavior is caused by events in some "inner" space called the  
mind ... is that it involves a category error. The term "category  
error" arises from ordinary language philosophy (I think). You made  
a category error when you start talking about some thing as if it  
were a different sort of thing altogether. In other words, our  
language is full of conventions concerning the way we talk about  
things, and when we violate those conventions, we start to talk  
silly. To an anti-mentalist a "feeling" is something that arises  
when one palpates the world and to talk about our "inner feelings",  
say, is to doom ourselves to silliness. Feelings are inherently "of"  
other things and to talk of "feeling our own feelings" is, well, in  
a word, nutty.


As many of you know, I have been engaged in a geriatric attempt to  
recover what  slipped by me in my youth, the chance to understand  
the Calculus. As I read more and more, it became clear to me that  
the differential calculus was based on a huge "category error." To  
speak of a point as having velocity and direction one had to speak  
of it at if it were something that it essentially wasn't. And yet,  
of course, the Calculus flourishes.


Now the reason I am writing is that I am not sure where to go with  
this "discovery." One way is to renounce my behaviorism on the  
ground that category errors ... any category errors ... are just  
fine. Another way is to start to think of the mind/behavior  
distinction in some way analogous to the derivative/function  
distinction. That mind is just the derivative of behavior. For  
instance, a motive, or an intention, is not some inner thing that  
directs behavior, but rather the limit of its behavioral direction.  
A third way, is to wonder about how the inventors of calculus  
thought about these issues. They, presumably, were steeped in  
mentalism and it cannot have escaped their notice that they were  
attributing to points qualities that points just cannot have. Many  
of the texts have been reading have alluded to the idea that some  
contemporaries ... perhaps Newton himself ... attributed to the  
Calculus some sort of mystic properties. I really would like to know  
more about that. Any intellectual historians out there


So, I am hoping somebody will help me go in any, or all, of these  
directions.


--Nthompson 04:14, 9 July 2008 (GMT)

This noodle, and perhaps some subsequent revisions and commentary,  
may be found at http://www.sfcomplex.org/wiki/MentalismAndCalculus


Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED])





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