[FRIAM] Pinball Wizards

[Stephen Guerin]

Congratulations David and Escher Lefkoff!!
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2017/12/26/tilt-
old-school-pinball-finds-new-fans/108919778/
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/04/19/worlds-best-pinball-player-escher-lefkoff/

Congratulations Merle for being the the "ultimate source kickout for
multiballs on the playfield"!
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Re: [FRIAM] scanning an old manuscript

[Stephen Guerin]

http://bfy.tw/FM9X. :-p

On Dec 1, 2017 6:22 PM, "Nick Thompson"  wrote:

> Dear Friammers,
>
>
>
> I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and
> then edit.  Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars.  They will put
> it into a word file for free, after that.  No guarantees.Does anybody
> know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off
> anywhere?  The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern.  Are
> there some REALLY GOOD ONES?  Would it be cheaper for me to buy the
> software myself?
>
>
>
> Lemme know,
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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Re: [FRIAM] Proofs of God?

[Stephen Guerin]

Do you have a non paywall copy?

On Oct 13, 2017 12:32 PM, "George Duncan"  wrote:

> Following up on a FRIAM discussion this morning at St John's College:
> Truth comes in various guises. Jeremy England recognizes this.
>
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/dan-brown-cant-cite-me-to-
> disprove-god-1507847369
>
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> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It may
> then be a valuable delusion."
> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
>
> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest
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Re: [FRIAM] Run with a single bit?

[Stephen Guerin]

Looking into Ofer Dekel's work, the journalist messed up this sentence:

compress neural networks, the synapses of Machine Learning, down from 32
bits to, sometimes, a single bit



The team is not compressing neural networks to one-bit. They are
compressing the weights used in a neural network from 32-bits to one-bit.

Weights (or sometimes called the biases) are proxies for synapses in
biological neural networks. The weights in a neural network are the
activation strengths (or inhibition if negative) on each incoming link to a
node which are multiplied by the outgoing signal strength of the uplink
neighbor. As a number, it can be expressed in 32-bits or as low as 1 bit.
Though at 1-bit weight would not allow for inhibition.The weights are what
get tuned during the machine learning. One can also explore the topology of
the neural network (which nodes are connected to which) during learning and
is the basis for the new craze around Deep Learning. This  technique has
been around since the 90s but has now realized its use with the
availability of data. Eg, here's a paper of mine
 from '99
implementing some of research from UT Austin at the time.

I think it would have been more clear for the journalist to write :

Ofer Dekel's team is researching methods to reduce the memory and
processing requirements of Neural Networks to run on smaller devices on the
edge of the network closer to the sensors. One method is to reduce the
number of bits necessary describe the weights between nodes in a neural
network down from 32-bits to as little as one-bit.

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On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:

> Friam Friends:
>
> A recent article
> 
> passed along by George Duncan says:
>
> "Now, Varma's team in India and Microsoft researchers in Redmond,
> Washington, (the entire project is led by lead researcher Ofer Dekel) have
> figured out how to *compress neural networks, the synapses of Machine
> Learning, down from 32 bits to, sometimes, a single bit *and run them on
> a $10 Raspberry Pi
> ,
> a low-powered, credit-card-sized computer with a handful of ports and no
> screen."
>
> How, or what, can you do with a "single bit."?
>
> TJ
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> 
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Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

[Stephen Guerin]

For catholics, a confirmed unmarried man might be different than a
confirmed bachelor .

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On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> Has anybody mentioned that there are lot of unmarried men that you usually
> wouldn't call bachelors?  There are widowers, priests, and nineteen
> year-olds, for example.  I learned the word because my father's brother was
> a thirty-five year old Major in the Air Force with no wife. He eventually
> got married and had children. Late bloomer?
>
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> On Jun 22, 2017 11:34 PM, "gepr ⛧"  wrote:
>
>> But the difference isn't merely rhetorical. If we take the setup
>> seriously, that the unmarried patient really doesn't know the other names
>> by which his condition is known, then there are all sorts of different side
>> effects that might obtain. E.g. if the doctor tells him he's a bachelor, he
>> might google that and discover bachelor parties. But if the doctor tells
>> him he is "single", he might discover single's night at the local pub.
>>
>> My point was not only the evocation of various ideas, but also the side
>> effects of various (computational) paths.
>>
>>
>> On June 22, 2017 7:00:55 PM PDT, Eric Charles <
>> eric.phillip.char...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Glen said: "So, the loop of unmarried <=> bachelor has information in
>> >it,
>> >even if the only information is (as in your example), the guy learns
>> >that
>> >because the condition has another name, perhaps there are other ways of
>> >thinking about it ... other _circles_ to use."
>> >
>> >This reminds me that, in another context, Nick complained to me quite a
>> >bit
>> >about Peirce's asserting that that any concept was simply a collection
>> >of
>> >conceived "practical" consequences. He felt that the term "practical"
>> >was
>> >unnecessary, and lead to confusions. I think this is a good example of
>> >why
>> >Peirce used that term, and felt it necessary.
>> >
>> >Perice would point out that the practical consequences of being
>> >"unmarried"
>> >are identical to the practical consequences of being "a bachelor."
>> >Thus,
>> >though the spellings be different, there is only one idea at play there
>> >(in
>> >Peirce-land... if we are thinking clearly). This is the tautology that
>> >Nick
>> >is pointing at, and he isn't wrong.
>> >
>> >And yet, Glen is still clearly correct that using one term or the other
>> >may
>> >more readily invoke certain ideas in a listener. Those aren't practical
>> >differences in Peirce's sense- they are not differences in practice
>> >that
>> >would achieve if one tested the unique implications of one label or the
>> >other (as there are no contrasting unique implications). The value of
>> >having the multiple terms is rhetorical, not logical.
>> >
>> >What to do with such differences..
>>
>> --
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Wow, cool!

You can play with a sphere at Los Alamos Bradbury Museum that has an inner
rotating sphere to generate similar turbulent patterns similar to Taylor
Couette instabilities in rotating cylinders:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNiocOsgxW8

I suspect Jupiter has more of a magnetic interaction but concepts I suspect
are similar.

Somewhat related is the unexpected reversibility of these systems as
illustrated by these UNM professors:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p08_KlTKP50

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> I’m not sure this qualifies, but it’s too pretty to pass up. They recently
> got a good look at Jupiter’s poles:
>
> https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/a-whole-new-jupiter-
> first-science-results-from-nasa-s-juno-mission
>
>
> --Barry
>
> On 25 May 2017, at 22:08, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Are there any good examples of a complex system that doesn't involve
>> biological organisms (including human beings)?
>>
>
> Three most used non-biological examples I've seen are:
>
>- ferromagnetism (described with ising model)
>- Bénard cells (convection)
>- Belousov–Zhabotinsky reaction
>
> Practically any physical system that transacts forms of energy can have
> critical regimes of phase transitions and would all qualify as complex
> systems.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

All Hurricanes are Dynamical System or Hurricanes and Dynamical Systems are
Dynamical Systems ;-p

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophismata


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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:49 PM, glen ☣  wrote:

>
> Ugh.  Sorry.  I often forget to use "other people's words" when I talk.
> Sophistry is not a bad thing in my own private lexicon.  We are surrounded
> by sophismata (is that the right word?).  The disambiguation of the
> meanings of "model" is one such sophisma.  It is not resolvable, at least
> in the short term.  But every conversation about such disambiguation is
> fruitful and worthwhile.  It's just not the particular sophistry we need
> for this conversation.
>
> On 05/29/2017 11:45 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> > Also, I don’t one understands what philosophy can do for science if you
> call it sophistry.  If you were happily painting the floor of a room and I
> pointed out that you had neglected to leave yourself a way out of the room,
> you wouldn’t call that sophistry, no matter how well the painting was going
> at the moment or how beautiful the painted floor looked.  That’s the role
> of philosophy in science.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> SG,
>
>
>
> There are now THREE issues lurking here between us.
>
>
>
> IS THE CRITERION FOR A SYSTEM ARBITRARY: You say yes; I say no.  We’ve
> already covered that ground.
>

In my post, I said it is *not* arbitrary. It's a function of what the
researcher is trying to use it for or explain.


>
>
> IS A HURRICANE A SYSTEM:  For me, that is the question of whether the
> collection of thunderstorms we call a hurricane interact with one another
> more than they interact with their collective surroundings.  Another way to
> put this question is in terms of redundancy.  If we were to go about
> describing the movements of the thunderstorms of a hurricane, would we get
> a simpler, less redundant description if we referred their movements to the
> center of the hurricane.  I think the answer to this question is clearly
> YES.
>

Yes you could model the movement in a simpler way by modeling the movement
of the center point. And that was my second model of a hurricane as a
random walker biased by a global wind vector and Coriolis curve term. And I
said that was not a complex system.


>
>
> IS A HURRICANE COMPLEX?  For me, complexity means “multi-layered” .  So, a 
> *complex
> *system is one composed of other systems.  A hurricane is a system of
> thunderstorms which themselves are a system of thermals (handwaving,
> here).  Thus a hurricane is at least a three-level system.  So, yes.  It is
> complex.
>

I agree about complex systems as having multiple layers - a macro scale and
a micro scale. I would say there's one system. If I was trying to model a
hurricane in my first example of an emergent vortex dissipating temperature
and pressure gradients, I would model the air with a combination of air
particles and patches of air - at LANL they would describe these as
particle in a box models or hybrid lagrangian and eulerian models. I would
not introduce thunderstorms at the micro level. But there's many ways to
skin a hurricane :-)

Some would say the micro level air particles and air cell components which
I would model as finite state machines (agents with a lower case "a") are
systems in their own right and have boundaries. I don't see the benefit of
calling them systems as their aren't multiple interacting components within
them. But don't feel like arguing too hard here.

>
>
> Eric Smith?
>
>
>
Yes, where are you Eric Smith ?

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

I agree.

It would still be left open as to whether you choose do model the weather,
economics or defense systems as Dynamical Systems, Complex Systems (ABM) or
Discrete Event Queuing models. The whole coupled system could be one way or
the other or most probably a hybrid

To take an example of traffic modeling that we've done we use all three:

For large spatial areas with many roads, we'll model traffic as a Dynamical
System of coupled differential equations of traffic density flowing from
sources to sinks. As we zoom in, we explode the road densities to
agent-based complex systems models that can have driver-driver interactions
that allows for congestion and traffic jam dynamics. As we get to
intersections, we transition from agent-based models and model the
intersections as a discrete event queue where the traffic light is moving
cars from incoming road graph edges to outgoing edges.

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Marcus Daniels 
wrote:

> Stephen writes:
>
>
>
> “Dynamical Systems and Complex Systems language are often used
> interchangeably by different complexity researchers and the boundaries are
> fuzzy in practice.
>
>
>
> I would say a modelling effort would be more of interest to the Complex
> Systems community, if say, a weather model were coupled to a weather
> modification effort and the weather modification effort was coupled to
> economic or defense concerns.   In your second example, it is not crucial
> to have a sophisticated physics model of the weather.   In the example
> above, it would be.
>
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Resending this with cleaned up typos:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Marcus Daniels 
 wrote:

> Hurricanes are an instances of multiscale fluid dynamics, or set of
> problems (cyclogenesis, heat engine, cyclolysis).   They are all
> complicated coupled systems, but it is not clear to me what extra insight
> is gained by calling them complex systems.
>

Great question, Marcus. I think this helps reinforce my point more clearly.

Depending on how you *model* cyclogenesis, there may not be any benefit to
using the language of complex systems. Just because it's a complicated
coupled system, does not mean it's a Complex System (in my narrow
definition).

I'm not an expert on cyclogenesis, but a quick wiki lookup
 led me to one model
description using a coupled differential equation model of Q-Vectors:

[image: Inline image 2]

And here's more on Q-Vectors .

To me, this class of model is closer to my second model of a hurricane
(random walker with specific terms of curl for Coriolis and and a global
wind vector) than my first example (dissipative structure formation where
vorticity would be a symmetry breaking dynamic). And the second one, I
offered was not a Complex System.

To me, the Q-Vectors model of cyclogenesis is missing micro and macro
frames and probably would be a stretch to classify it as a complex systems
model. Further, terms like vorticity is a prescribed time-based derivative
and not emergent in the model. In alternative models, by contrast,
vorticity would result from symmetry breaking in the critical regime and
could be a candidate order parameter. I would be more likely to classify
that type of model as a Complex Systems model.

That said, I would more likely classify the Q-Vectors model as a Dynamical
System  model instead of a
Complex System. I would argue knowing it's a *Dynamical System* you would
get the benefit to automatically know:

   - it can be characterized with phase spaces with attractors and
   repellors.
   - it has phase space will have basins of attraction and related
   separatices
   - it may have chaotic regimes in phase space

While all Complex Systems models are dynamic they may not necessarily
qualify formally as Dynamical Systems where time is modeled explicitly. And
it is usually the case that a Dynamical Systems model is not a Complex
System Model. Some researchers would disagree with me on this point.
Dynamical Systems and Complex Systems language are often used
interchangeably by different complexity researchers and the boundaries are
fuzzy in practice (more on this at the end).

If we were able to classify our Hurricane model as a Complex Systems model,
it would allow us to import what's known to universally apply to complex
systems. eg:

   - the model will have narrow critical regimes which will have:
  - fractal pattern formation with powerlaw statistics
  - long range correlation in microlevel agents/entities
  - critical slowing down
  - critical fluctuations
  - high variation between runs (unpredictable) and sensitivity to
  initial conditions (chaotic)
  - symmetry breaking of macroscopic properties
  - rapid increase on constraints on degrees of freedom on microlevel
  components
  - highly predictable macroscopic patterns on either side of the
  critical regime
  - potential for self-tuning to the critical regime
   - It will have a universal order parameter of symmetry breaking at the
   macro scale. What breaks symmetry will be model dependent
   - I assert (I can't yet prove) that it will have a universal control
   parameter which can be characterized by the asymmetries of the micro-level
   interactions. eg:
  - the asymmetry of deceleration and acceleration in a traffic model
  is a control parameter that can move the order parameter of the
macroscopic
  symmetry breaking of a backward shockwave of a traffic jam
through a phase
  transition.
  - the asymmetry of attraction and repulsion in a flocking model can
  move the macroscopic symmetry-breaking of linear momentum of a flock
  through a phase transition

Another benefit of classifying it as a Complex Systems model is that it
allows one to identify subclasses within complex systems models and find
homologies which I think Nick would agree is the real power of metaphor in
science. For example, a subclass of models in complex systems is a
percolation model which exhibits all the characteristics above. But
further, if I say a particular forest fire model, particular rumor model
and a particular voter model are all of class percolation models, I can
make many creative leaps back and forth between the three. And like all
uses of metaphors it would be instructive when the metaphors break down
between the systems.

Another example is a particular ant food foraging model 

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Marcus Daniels 
wrote:

> Hurricanes are an instances of multiscale fluid dynamics, or set of
> problems (cyclogenesis, heat engine, cyclolysis).   They are all
> complicated coupled systems, but it is not clear to me what extra insight
> is gained by calling them complex systems.
>

Great question, Marcus. I think this helps reinforce my point more clearly.

Depending on how you *model* cyclogenesis, there may not be any benefit
using the language of complex systems. Just because it's a complicated
coupled system, does not mean it's a complex system (in my definition).

I'm not an expert on cyclogenesis, but a quick wiki lookup
 led me to one model
description being around a coupled differential equation model using
Q-Vectors:

[image: Inline image 2]

And here's more on Q-Vectors .

To me, this class of model is closer to my second model of a hurricane
(random walker with specific terms of curl for Coriolis and and a global
wind vector) than the first (dissipative structure formation where
vorticity would be a symmetry breaking dynamic). And the second one, I
offered was not a complex system.

To me, the Q-Vectors model of cyclogenesis is missing micro and macro
frames and probably would be a stretch to classify it as a complex systems
model. Further, terms like vorticity is a prescribed time-based derivative
and not emergent in the model. In alternative models, by contrast,
vorticity would result from symmetry breaking in the critical regime and
would be a candidate order parameter. I would be more likely to classify
that type of model as a Complex Systems model.

That said, I would more likely classify the Q-Vectors model as Dynamical
System  model instead of a
Complex System. I would argue knowing it's a *Dynamical System* you get the
benefit to automatically know:

   - it can be characterized with phase spaces with attractors and
   repellors.
   - it has phase space will have basins of attraction and related
   separatices
   - it may have chaotic regimes in phase space

While all complex systems models are dynamic they may not necessarily
qualify as Dynamical Systems where time is modeled explicitly. And it is
usually the case that a Dynamical Systems model is not a Complex System
Model. Some researchers would disagree with me on this point. Dynamical
Systems and Complex Systems language are often used interchangeably by
different complexity researchers and the boundaries are fuzzy in practice.

If we were able to classify it as a Complex Systems model, it allows one to
import what's known to universally to apply to complex systems. eg:

   - the model will have narrow critical regimes which will have:
  - fractal pattern formation with powerlaw statistics
  - long range correlation in microlevel agents/entities
  - critical slowing down
  - critical fluctuations
  - high variation between runs (unpredictable) and sensitivity to
  initial conditions (chaotic)
  - symmetry breaking of macroscopic properties
  - rapid increase on constraints on degrees of freedom on microlevel
  components
  - highly predictable macroscopic patterns on either side of the
  critical regime
  - potential for self-tuning
   - It will have a universal order parameter of symmetry breaking at the
   macro scale. What breaks symmetry will be model dependent
   - I assert (I can't yet prove) that it will have a universal control
   parameter which can be characterized by the asymmetries of the micro-level
   interactions. eg:
  - the asymmetry of deceleration in deceleration and acceleration in a
  traffic model is a control parameter that can move the order parameter of
  the macroscopic symmetry breaking of a backward shockwave of a
traffic jam
  through a phase transition.
  - the asymmetry of attraction and repulsion in a flocking model can
  move the macroscopic symmetry-breaking of linear momentum of a flock
  through a phase transition

Another benefit of classifying it as a Complex Systems model is that it
allows one to identify subclasses within complex systems models and find
homologies which I think Nick would agree is the real power of metaphor in
science. For example, a subclass of models in complex systems is a
percolation model which exhibits all the characteristics above. But
further, if I say a particular forest fire model, particular rumor model
and a particular voter model are all of class percolation models, I can
make many creative leaps back and forth between the three. And like all
uses of metaphors it would be instructive when the metaphors break down
between the systems. However, if the models are equivalent, it allows
communication between disciplines.

Another example is a particular ant food foraging model and a particular
lightning 

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

 Nick asks:

> Is a hurricane a “complex system”?
>

It depends. What is your metaphor (model) of a hurricane?

If I wanted to understand how a hurricane forms, I might model dissipative
structure formation in the presence of temperature and pressure gradients.
I would call this a complex system.

If I needed to add a hurricane track simulation to our Simtable, for the
purposes of how my customers would use it for emergency planning, it would
probably be enough to model its track as a random walker biased by global
winds and a curve parameter to represent the Coriolis effect. I would not
call this a complex system.

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> What about my revised question. Can we think of anything that is
> non-biological, non-human, and not a biological or human artifact that
> would qualify as an agent based system?


Let me take a stab at what this could mean - but I first have to understand
what you mean by agent-based system.

To me, "agent-based system" is an interesting mashup between two research
disciplines - "Multi-Agent Systems (MAS)" from the Distirbuted AI community
and "Agent-Based Modeling (ABM)" from the Complexity research community.

In MAS, systems and models are one and the same. It is a deployed system
comprised of agents. It is not trying to model anything.

In our use, an agent-based model is one possible modeling formalization of
a system. A coupled differential equation would be an alternative. Or a
discrete-event queuing model a potential third way to model a system.

To make the distinction at the office, when we deploy systems with agents
we are not modeling anything. Here, I try to consistently use the term
"agent-oriented programming" or "agent-based system" instead of
"agent-based model". And in these cases, the agents are semi-autonomous
when compared to "object-oriented programming" or "object-oriented systems"
where there is a greater reliance on a centralized "main()" thread that is
controlling all the objects. I don't think this is what you mean by
agent-based system.

Stu Kauffman introduced the term "Autonomous Agent" which I'll always use
in capitals, as it really captures something greater than merely
"semi-autonomous agents" which I think of as simple interacting finite
state machines. Autonomous Agents by contrast, are approaching living
systems with the use of energy gradients, sensing of gradients using
informational kinematic flows vs mass-based force interactions and the
constructions of constraints (equivalent with information btw) to extract
work as well as applying work to maintain constraints to realize
work-cycles.

So I'm guessing, Russ, that you're asking "can we think of any
non-biological examples of Autonomous Agents?" - my answer would initially
say "no, I can't".

And if I had beer with you I'd give a subtler murkier answer. I would say
there's a more complete definition of living systems than Autonomous Agents
that looks at the whole breakdown channels of mass and energy flows as
Harold Morowitz and Eric Smith have been describing
.
Life is a property of the process in the full ecological interactions and
not a property of a given entity. It ceases to make sense to ask if a virus
or an Autonomous Agent is alive or dead. Life is not a property of an
individual. (apologies for butchering this, Eric). I would add to Harold
and Eric's description that all Autonomous Agents have a dual in their
ecological interactions that is seeking to dissipate their gradients as
much as the Autonomous Agent is seeking to extract work from theirs. I'm
guessing the interactions of chloroplasts and mitochondria in an
autotrophic plant cell are close to this.

As you get systems of coupled complex systems that are all dissipating
gradients that are generated by the other and all complex systems are open
to matter and energy flows, the boundary of a living system continues to
expand out to the point that I start to sound like a pantheist and the
world as a whole system is alive. I choose to take it on faith that it is.
At that point, what does a non-biological system mean in our world :-)

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Though there are times, like in the context of machine learning, when we
program algorithms to define ensembles of random systems along with
ensembles of random models and select amongst them based on how well they
fit observed data to find novel explanations for data for uses in
prediction or classification. This might be related to past discussions on
abductiion at FRIAM. Genetic Programming would be a related example.

Even though the systems in this case are defined randomly, given that they
are selected for against some fitness function, the final systems used
would probably still not constitute "arbitrary".
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On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Stephen Guerin <
stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:

> So, what constitutes a system is arbitrary?  In the mind of the beholder?
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember when we used to argue about this at The Complex.
>>
>>
>>
>> I always wanted to argue that a system is in some sense “self-bounding”.
>> It consists of a group of entities that are interacting more intimately
>> with one another than they are with entities outside the system.
>>
>>
>>
> In the context of complex systems research, a *system* is an abstraction
> of a set of connected components and its boundary. The system's boundary
> can be defined as open, closed or isolated to flows of quantities of
> energy, mass, information, symbols etc. Defining information is a different
> thread ;-)
>
> A *model* is the mathematical/computational formalization of the system.
>
> *Is what constitutes a system arbitrary?*
> George Box famously said "all models are wrong, but some are useful
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_models_are_wrong>". Given that models
> are formalizations of systems and if arbitrary means: "based on random
> choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.", I would say
> researchers use reason and systemic thought to develop "useful" system
> descriptions. So, system descriptions are not arbitrary. They are designed
> to be useful for the question being asked. No system description nor model
> can answer all questions - they are specifically designed for a problem at
> hand.
>
> Relatedly, a *simulation,* in the way we use it, is a single instance of
> a model run based on initializing  a model's parameters computing next
> states to observe its behavior/dynamics.
>
> The *phase space* is the behavior of the model over all possible input
> states.
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

>
> So, what constitutes a system is arbitrary?  In the mind of the beholder?
>
>
>
> I remember when we used to argue about this at The Complex.
>
>
>
> I always wanted to argue that a system is in some sense “self-bounding”.
> It consists of a group of entities that are interacting more intimately
> with one another than they are with entities outside the system.
>
>
>
In the context of complex systems research, a *system* is an abstraction of a
set of connected components and its boundary. The system's boundary can be
defined as open, closed or isolated to flows of quantities of energy, mass,
information, symbols etc. Defining information is a different thread ;-)

A *model* is the mathematical/computational formalization of the system.

*Is what constitutes a system arbitrary?*
George Box famously said "all models are wrong, but some are useful
". Given that models
are formalizations of systems and if arbitrary means: "based on random
choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.", I would say
researchers use reason and systemic thought to develop "useful" system
descriptions. So, system descriptions are not arbitrary. They are designed
to be useful for the question being asked. No system description nor model
can answer all questions - they are specifically designed for a problem at
hand.

Relatedly, a *simulation,* in the way we use it, is a single instance of a
model run based on initializing  a model's parameters computing next states
to observe its behavior/dynamics.

The *phase space* is the behavior of the model over all possible input
states.

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Marcos writes;

> Depending on which J values are zero, there can one phase space or many
> independent phase spaces depending on how many disconnected components
> there are.


I agree with a small tweak.

Yes, the subgraphs would have their own independent phase spaces
(especially if topologies were dissimilar). Though, I would not call the
independent subgraphs components as they are no longer part of a larger
whole.  If the subgraphs are independent and not interacting you cease to
have one system. You have multiple independent systems each with their own
phase spaces.

I'll wrap with my position:

   - I gave three examples of non-biological complex systems based on
   Russ's initial question
   - Russ's additional criteria later in the thread are similar to
   distinguishing criteria for complex living systems vs complex non-living
   systems. This is an area of research I'm fascinated with and I encourage
   this line of discussion
   - If I need to use Russ's criteria, I can't think of a non-biological
   example. To me it's like asking for a non-biological example of a living
   system.
   - I disagree with Russ's claim that all complex systems must satisfy his
   criteria to be a complex system. It is too limiting.

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Yes, and systems can have subsystems.

In my comment to Glen, my point was that a phase space is a description of
a single system.

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> For what it’s worth, a linear space can have a subspace that is a linear
> space.  Both the larger and smaller spaces are linear spaces.  Of course
> “linear space” is much more precisely defined than “system”.
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> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?
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>
> Glen writes:
>
> Not quite.  If these systems merely contain subsystems capable of
> exhibiting complexity, then those 3 you listed are not complex systems.
> They are "subsystems capable of exhibiting complexity".  So, no.  They are
> not complex systems in isolation.  Russ' question, I think, targets
> naturally occurring, whole complex systems.
>
>
>
> We disagree on the use of systems and subsystems in the context of phase
> space then. To me, there is one system and that system has a phase space -
> There are not multiple subsystems in the phase space. And as there are
> multiple use of phase space I mean it in this sense:
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_space
>
> The phase space can also refer to the space that is parametrized by the
> *macroscopic* states of the system, such as pressure, temperature, etc.
> For instance, one may view the pressure-volume diagram or
> entropy-temperature diagrams as describing part of this phase space. A
> point in this phase space is correspondingly called a macrostate. There may
> easily be more than one microstate with the same macrostate. For example,
> for a fixed temperature, the system could have many dynamic configurations
> at the microscopic level. When used in this sense, a phase is a region of
> phase space where the system in question is in, for example, the liquid
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid> phase, or solid
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid> phase, etc.
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> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:08 PM, glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 05/26/2017 04:54 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> > I am listening to Russ. I do think he's defining a sub-class of complex
> > systems (eg living systems). I would like to keep the definition of
> > "complex systems" broader than that though.
>
> OK.  But I don't think he's necessarily _asserting_ that only living
> systems are complex systems.  He's just asking the question and engaging in
> a discussion wherein we might be able to refine his sub-category so that it
> includes physical systems.
>
> > I understand the subtle distinction your trying to make. I would say the
> > full phase space of a *complex system* has narrow critical regimes in
> their
> > behavior (phase) space where *complex behavior* is observed as the
> control
> > parameters are swept through the phase transition. In the critical regime
> > we see complex behavior like sensitivity to initial conditions, critical
> > slowing down, critical fluctuations, power law statistics, long-range
> > correlations, etc. On either side of the phase transition (eg
> sub-critical
> > and super-critical) regimes, these statistics and behaviors are not
> present.
> >
> > That said, while the critical regime may be narrow in phase space many of
> > these system "self-tune" to the critical point but that's another thread.
> >
> > Agreed?
>
> Not quite.  If these systems merely contain subsystems capable of
> exhibiting complexity, then those 3 you listed are not complex systems.
> They ar

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Glen writes:
>
> Not quite.  If these systems merely contain subsystems capable of
> exhibiting complexity, then those 3 you listed are not complex systems.
> They are "subsystems capable of exhibiting complexity".  So, no.  They are
> not complex systems in isolation.  Russ' question, I think, targets
> naturally occurring, whole complex systems.


We disagree on the use of systems and subsystems in the context of phase
space then. To me, there is one system and that system has a phase space -
There are not multiple subsystems in the phase space. And as there are
multiple use of phase space I mean it in this sense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_space

The phase space can also refer to the space that is parametrized by the
*macroscopic* states of the system, such as pressure, temperature, etc. For
instance, one may view the pressure-volume diagram or entropy-temperature
diagrams as describing part of this phase space. A point in this phase
space is correspondingly called a macrostate. There may easily be more than
one microstate with the same macrostate. For example, for a fixed
temperature, the system could have many dynamic configurations at the
microscopic level. When used in this sense, a phase is a region of phase
space where the system in question is in, for example, the liquid
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid> phase, or solid
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid> phase, etc.





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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:08 PM, glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 05/26/2017 04:54 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> > I am listening to Russ. I do think he's defining a sub-class of complex
> > systems (eg living systems). I would like to keep the definition of
> > "complex systems" broader than that though.
>
> OK.  But I don't think he's necessarily _asserting_ that only living
> systems are complex systems.  He's just asking the question and engaging in
> a discussion wherein we might be able to refine his sub-category so that it
> includes physical systems.
>
> > I understand the subtle distinction your trying to make. I would say the
> > full phase space of a *complex system* has narrow critical regimes in
> their
> > behavior (phase) space where *complex behavior* is observed as the
> control
> > parameters are swept through the phase transition. In the critical regime
> > we see complex behavior like sensitivity to initial conditions, critical
> > slowing down, critical fluctuations, power law statistics, long-range
> > correlations, etc. On either side of the phase transition (eg
> sub-critical
> > and super-critical) regimes, these statistics and behaviors are not
> present.
> >
> > That said, while the critical regime may be narrow in phase space many of
> > these system "self-tune" to the critical point but that's another thread.
> >
> > Agreed?
>
> Not quite.  If these systems merely contain subsystems capable of
> exhibiting complexity, then those 3 you listed are not complex systems.
> They are "subsystems capable of exhibiting complexity".  So, no.  They are
> not complex systems in isolation.  Russ' question, I think, targets
> naturally occurring, whole complex systems.
>
> Now, if we add the experimental apparatus that, eg, maintains a ZB
> reaction for a long time, then that _whole_ system can be called a complex
> system.  But there's significant meat to the controlling subsystem ... and
> we biological creatures instantiated it.  The case is the same with, say,
> glycolysys.
>
> All you need do is identify the circumstances where those three processes
> (ferromag, benard cells, BZ reactions) occur in nature and then we might be
> able to identify the systems in which they sit.  Then we can test them
> against whatever predicate we want.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

> Heh, you're not going to make an empathetic attempt to listen to Russ'
intent? 8^)

I am listening to Russ. I do think he's defining a sub-class of complex
systems (eg living systems). I would like to keep the definition of
"complex systems" broader than that though.

I understand the subtle distinction your trying to make. I would say the
full phase space of a *complex system* has narrow critical regimes in their
behavior (phase) space where *complex behavior* is observed as the control
parameters are swept through the phase transition. In the critical regime
we see complex behavior like sensitivity to initial conditions, critical
slowing down, critical fluctuations, power law statistics, long-range
correlations, etc. On either side of the phase transition (eg sub-critical
and super-critical) regimes, these statistics and behaviors are not present.

That said, while the critical regime may be narrow in phase space many of
these system "self-tune" to the critical point but that's another thread.

Agreed?

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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:30 PM, glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Heh, you're not going to make an empathetic attempt to listen to Russ'
> intent? 8^)
>
> My answer is either or both "yes" and/or "no", because your words are too
> ambiguous. Both "complex" and "system" are left to the audience's
> imagination.  I would say that each of those _can_ exhibit complex
> phenomena when constrained, by a controlling [sub]system, to particular
> regimes of their behavior space.  So, yes.  But I would also say that each
> of those does not normally or naturally remain in such states for very long
> or under a wide range of circumstances.  So, no.
>
> I suppose you get to choose which of my answers you accept.
>
>
> On 05/26/2017 04:16 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> > Do you agree that at least one of these is an example of a non-biological
> > complex system?
> >
> >- ferromagnetic system (described with ising model)
> >- Bénard cell formation (convection)
> >- Belousov–Zhabotinsky reaction
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

Glen,

Let me take one claim at a time.

Do you agree that at least one of these is an example of a non-biological
complex system?

   - ferromagnetic system (described with ising model)
   - Bénard cell formation (convection)
   - Belousov–Zhabotinsky reaction



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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:40 PM, glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but you're relying on the ambiguity of the concept.  A system that
> is only complex for very short spans of time, or under very special
> conditions wouldn't fit with _most_ people's concept of "complex".  To
> boot, unadulterated oscillation wouldn't satisfy it either.  And, as has
> been said earlier in the thread, allowing any an all physical systems to be
> called "complex" when they're placed under special circumstances defeats
> the purpose of the concept.
>
> So, I agree with Russ' _gist_ in that the 3rd requirement is necessary for
> at least a large band of types of complexity. But I would relax his 3rd
> requirement from symbolic information to a more objective characterization
> of a boundary, with distinct sides/regions.  Then you could make it even
> more specific and close a region; so you get something akin to an agent,
> with an inside vs outside.  And whether one calls transduction across that
> boundary "information" or not becomes a discussion of the properties of the
> boundary (what it is and isn't closed under).
>
> Of course, whether such a boundary has an ontological status of its own,
> or whether it's identified/attributed by onlookers is another question.
>
> On 05/25/2017 09:08 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> > Practically any physical system that transacts forms of energy can have
> > critical regimes of phase transitions and would all qualify as complex
> > systems.
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> A complex system involves agents with the following properties.
>
>- They can accumulate (and store) free energy.
>- They have means to release that energy.
>- They respond to (symbolic) information, i.e., symbols. By that I
>mean that they respond to things on the basis of their internal rules
>rather than as a consequence of physics or chemistry. (In other words they
>are autonomous in the sense that they are governed by internal rules and
>not just pushed around by external forces.) I'm not saying that the
>internal rules are not themselves run by physics and chemistry, only that
>the response of an agent to some information/symbol is minimally if at all
>connected to the physical nature of the symbol.  (A bit is a symbol. Bit
>representations don't matter when software looks at bit values. Similarly
>when you see a red traffic light you respond to the symbol
>red-traffic-light, not to the physical effects of the photons -- other than
>to translate those photons into the symbol. Software is a set of rules no
>matter what mechanism executes it.) Of course one of the things agents can
>do is to employ some of its stored energy as part of its response to a
>symbol.
>
> The result of all this is that agents operate in two worlds:
> physics/chemistry and information. A system cannot be considered complex
> unless it includes such agents.
>

I disagree with the your last statement - it is too restricting for the
general field of complex systems.

The criteria you list above are similar to what others have described as
distinguishing properties for the transition from physically
self-organizing systems to living systems. So if you include these
conditions as necessary to be a complex system, of course, you won't be
able to find physical systems that qualify as complex systems.

Example criteria others have used similar to yours:

   - onboard free energy stores
   - responding to information gradients instead of just force gradients
   - responding to kinematic flow fields (1987 Kugler and Turvey) instead
   of only kinetic. Eg forces defined on information gradients not just
   mass-based.
   - Stu's definition of an "Autonomous Agent"
  - detect gradients from which it can extract work
  - construct system of constraints to extract work
  - do work to maintain those constraints



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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

>
> *Marcos writes*
> The Ising model is just a model, however.


My example was the *physical phenomena* of ferromagnetism not the Ising
model that describes it. Eg heat up a physical magnet past its critical
point (Curie temperature) and the metal loses its alignment/magnetic
polarity as a collective property. from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature:
[image: Inline image 1]


That said, I am also interested in studying computational agent-based
systems as complex systems without the need to tie them to systems in the
"real-world".
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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Daniels 
wrote:

> *Stephen writes:*
>
>
>
> “Three most used non-biological examples I've seen are:
>
>- ferromagnetism (described with ising model)
>
> [..]
>
> The Ising model is just a model, however.  Even though an Ising system can
> encode functions, I don’t think that arbitrary functions are found in
> nature.  As a ridiculous example, show me a division function that occurs
> as a metastable crystal in the wild.  There are some Ising model instances
> that would be irregular arrangements of atoms and maybe even impossible to
> form without an apparatus.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Stephen Guerin]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> Are there any good examples of a complex system that doesn't involve
> biological organisms (including human beings)?
>

Three most used non-biological examples I've seen are:

   - ferromagnetism (described with ising model)
   - Bénard cells (convection)
   - Belousov–Zhabotinsky reaction

Practically any physical system that transacts forms of energy can have
critical regimes of phase transitions and would all qualify as complex
systems.

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Re: [FRIAM] ☠it's magic!

[Stephen Guerin]

yes, this is spam and doesn't look like it originated from Jim.

>From the header info it looks like it sent from pisem.net which has a
Russian registration:
   https://www.whois.com/whois/pisem.net

Our servers were migrated this week so there may be a missed configuration
that didn't carry over. These types of emails should be rejected. Looking
into it...

-S

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On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Nick Thompson 
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> WOW! Does this ever look like phishing to me.
>
>
>
> “Click here”
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
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>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Have you already seen that? It's pure magic! Just take a look here
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>
> jimrutt
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Two Headed ES6 Classes! – Owen Densmore – Medium

[Stephen Guerin]

very nicely written, Owen!

On Apr 17, 2017 9:29 PM, "Owen Densmore"  wrote:

> Feeling burnt out on agentscript, I thought I'd, on my 75th birthday, to
> insert something new in my live, so thought of writing.
> ​  ​
> https://medium.com/@backspaces/two-headed-es6-classes-fe369c50b24
>
> ​I need some help on how to make these "stories" rather than boring tech
> talks. But still appealing as interesting tech for those needing it. So any
> critiques appreciated.
>
> Medium has turned out to be an interesting publishing platform: more
> words, less fuss. Way well designed, and anyone who wants a lightweight
> "blog"​.
>
> My next set of posts (4 I think) will be on migration to es6 modules. A
> story is brewing on helping "legacy" folks. When I converted to them, I got
> in touch with about a dozen authors of libraries I use which have not yet
> been converted. Their responses were great, and very diversified, and even
> one pretty nasty.
>
> Thought I'd round them up into a story too, ending with helping one of
> them to "see the light" ... er .. to migrate.
>
> Anyway, any of us with experience writing, not just tech .. I'd love some
> input.
>
>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Request for Beta Test: Prescribed burn in Santa Fe Watershed

[Stephen Guerin]

Yes, please :-)



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wrote:

> So I should point basically straight west?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Stephen Guerin <
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
>> If you are near Santa Fe and have Chrome on and Android Phone, please
>> help us test our app for locating / imaging wildfires. Let's do a test from
>> 1:45p MDT to 3p.
>>
>> If you have Chrome on android, please visit https://livetexture.com and
>> point your camera toward the prescribed fire in the Santa Fe Watershed
>>
>>1. Turn on your GPS
>>2. Turn on your camera and location in the web interface:
>>[image: Inline image 1]
>>3. You can change your camera to the backfacing camera
>>4. try to keep the fire in the center of your view
>>5. Watch as others are pointing at the fire
>>6. You can click on the "camera frustums" (triangles) to see the
>>camera streams from those users
>>[image: Inline image 2]
>>
>> If you're on IPhone, you can still use it, you just can't share
>> images/video yet.
>>
>> You can also watch on your desktop browsers at LiveTexture.com
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[FRIAM] Fwd: Julia Robinson Mathematics Festival – Santa Fe - Call for volunteers

[Stephen Guerin]

Please consider volunteering for this.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Lina Germann <lina.germ...@stemsantafe.org>
Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:51 PM
Subject: Julia Robinson Mathematics Festival – Santa Fe - Call for
volunteers
To: Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@redfish.com>, Nicholas Kunz <
nk...@nmmesa.org>, mich...@bigskylearning.com
Cc: James Taylor <jtay...@sfprep.org>


Ok guys. This time I am asking you to volunteer without hauling anything!
Just come and play some math games with the kids. you’ll even get
breakfast, lunch and a T-shirt!
Training will be provided. See the training session options in the
Volunteer form.
Thanks for your consideration. Ask your friends...
Lina

Teachers and students have already signed up, buses have been booked. Now
we need volunteers….

*Julia Robinson Mathematics Festival – Santa Fe*
*Friday February 24*

*Santa Fe Community College, Jemez Rooms*
*6401 Richards Ave., Santa Fe, NM 87508*

Optional Breakfast and Lunch Provided
*Breakfast (8:00-8:30) and lunch (12:30-1:30) provided*
*Volunteers are expected to arrive by 8:30*

Volunteers are needed as Table Leaders. Training will be provided. If
interested, please fill out the *Volunteer Form
<https://goo.gl/forms/fp1HG0XtUF1W2XbW2>.*
For more information, visit www.stemsantafe.org
For questions, email eve...@stemsantafe.org
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[FRIAM] Theorore Spyropoulos's group on "Behavioral Complexity" at UCL

[Stephen Guerin]

Nice work at UCL by Theodore Spyropoulos's group on "Behavioral
Complexity". Check out some of the videos.

http://www.creativeapplications.net/processing/aadrl-behavioural-complexity/
The AADRL is a post-professional MArch (Architecture & Urbanism) graduate
design programme at the Architectural Association School of Architecture,
in London. Led by Theodore Spyropoulos, it has four research labs that
respond to an umbrella agenda that the team set for a period of 3-4 years.
Most recently they have been working on a theme of ‘Behavioral Complexity‘,
which explores design that is proto-typical, scenario driven and examines
behaviours through design enquiry. A feature of this research agenda
between the four labs is examining robotics within architecture. They have
two studios that are exploring 3D printing at the scale of buildings, one
augmenting robotic arms by developing custom end effectors and the other
exploring drones and swarm printing and finally the fourth studio is
looking at parametric approaches towards kinetic architecture.
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Re: [FRIAM] Why depth/thickness matters

[Stephen Guerin]

The opening of this article would be a complete counter position for an
Ecological Psychologist:

  "Students of perception often claim that perception, in general,
estimates the truth. They argue that creatures whose perceptions are more
true are also, thereby, more fit. Therefore, due to natural selection, the
accuracy of perception grows over generations, so that today our
perceptions, in most cases, approximate the truth."


As an alternative to the Evolutionary Psychology perspective bias of this
paper, Eric Charles may chime in on how Ecological Psychology and the
Neo-Gibsonians (Michael Turvey et al) would be aligned with your stance as
they also seek to minimizing the reliance on internal representations of
"the truth"/reality when explaining perception and action.

I'd further be interested to think about how Eric's example of the Aikido
perspective (which Critchlow would appreciate) in his paper could be
applied to responding to alt-right attacks in contrast to direct
confrontation:
  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44571452_
Ecological_Psychology_and_Social_Psychology_It_is_Holt_or_Nothing

Not sure what Holt would say about Rosen's modeling relation.

-S

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:05 PM, glen ☣  wrote:

>
>   Natural selection and veridical perceptions
>   Justin T. Mark, Brian B. Marion, Donald D. Hoffman
>   http://cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/PerceptualEvolution.pdf
>
> > For the weak type, X ⊄ W in general, and g is a homomorphism. Perception
> need not faithfully mirror any subset of reality, but relationships among
> perceptions reflect relationships among aspects of reality. Thus, weak
> critical realists can bias their perceptions based on utility, so long as
> this homomorphism is maintained.
>
> To me, this evoked RRosen's "modeling relation", wherein he assumes the
> structure of inferential entailment must be similar to that of causal
> entailment (otherwise "there can be no science" -- Life Itself, pg. 58).
>
> > For the interface (or desktop) strategy, in general X ⊄ W and g need not
> be a homomorphism.
>
> This more closely resembles what I (contingently) believe to be true.
> Hoffman goes on to define and play some games, the results of which (he
> thinks) show that the interface strategy, under evolution, can demonstrate
> how fake news might dominate.  But my interest lies more in the idea that
> one's internal structure does matter with respect to whether or not one's
> likely to _believe_ false statements.  And I'm arguing that flattening that
> internal structure in a kind of holographic principle simply doesn't work
> with this sort of machine.
>
> An interesting potential contradiction in my own thought lies in:
>
> 1) I reject Rosen's assumption of the modeling relation (i.e. inference ≉
> cause), and
> 2) I still think intra-individual circularity is necessary for biomimicry.
>
> --
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Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM list should be flowing again

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FRIAM Archives are at:
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> What will happen to posts that were not distributed.  Will they now be?
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>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
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>
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>
>
>
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[FRIAM] FRIAM list should be flowing again

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[FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

[Stephen Guerin]

A message from Yaneer:


In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling
December 13, 2016

Tom Schelling, master of the important idea in a complex world, passed
away, Tuesday, December 13, 2016. His work on mutual assured destruction
and on segregation showed he knew what the most important questions were
and had the ability to answer them. In each case we gained new insight as
well as essential aspects of dealing with important real world problems.

In the former, he identified the way we could survive nuclear confrontation
between the US and Soviet Union, showing the way to stability through
mutual assured destruction---whose recognition would provide not just
deterrence but calming assurance---an incredible force for peaceful
coexistence in a century of the massive conflicts in world wars and
political uncertainty that actions might be taken leading to global
destruction.

In the latter, he recognized the central insight of complex systems
science, the ability of individual agent choices to result in collective
behavior s. He understood that the connection between them might, and often
is, not clear to a casual observer, but yields to the right kind of
analysis. In this case, the choice of individuals who prefer to live near
others of the same type, manifests in the creation of segregated
communities.

Both of these contributions to our understanding reflect deep and important
questions, and remarkably clear and (in retrospect) simple answers. And the
answers were, and are, essential to our understanding of the world around
us and the challenges we are facing.

This spring when I learned of concerns about North Korea from the National
Security Council and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, I spoke with Tom
to learn from his insights into this version of the nuclear confrontation.
He was clear and straightforward in his view that we should not be
concerned, and should not act with concern. After some thought about the
unique conditions of the North Korea confrontation, I unde rstood better
not only the reason for his statements but their wisdom---one of the
greatest destabilizing forces is the concern itself.

Perhaps we should formally define the difference between intelligent and
wise as the ability to include one's own words into the frame of analysis.

I am sure I still have much to learn from Tom and will be reading his
papers and books for years to come. Still, I will miss the chance to talk
with him.

There are many who have gained from his intellectual contributions, there
are few if any who have not benefitted from his wisdom. We are diminished
at his passing.

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Re: [FRIAM] Mouse issue

[Stephen Guerin]

For your consideration:
  https://youtu.be/lrJ7er87ipA

Miles's stop motion homework a couple weeks ago.

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[FRIAM] FBI discovers Dr. Strangelove in 2013/2014 email dump

[Stephen Guerin]

Dr. Strangelove: how he learned to stop baiting and love the FRIAM threads
  http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/

Will he/they strike again?

We should build a firewall and make LANL the Real Story pay for it!

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[FRIAM] Eric's book link: The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere

[Stephen Guerin]

Eric's book came up at FRIAM. here's a Amazon link, there may be a better
distributor.

"The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth
Geosphere" by Eric Smith, Harold J. Morowitz.

Start reading it for free: http://amzn.to/2dGBsKs

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Re: [FRIAM] *TODAY* 9/20 Wedtech Brownbag : Tomaso Minelli and Fabio Carrera: The Architecture of Daaab.it: a public transportation app.

[Stephen Guerin]

The recording from today's talk is here:
  https://recordings.join.me/NgNCvvnG4EK2RHehT_3Vzw

Audio is a little low. You may need to turn it up. We'll use a closer mic
next time.

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Stephen Guerin <
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> Today's talk will be screencast at https://joinme.com/SimtableSantaFe.
> Starting at 12:30p MDT. We'll send out the recorded link after the talk,
> too.
>
> -Stephen
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>> **TODAY**  Note this talk is today on *Tuesday* not the usual Wednesday
>> timeslot
>>
>> Tuesday 9/20 12:30p
>>
>> *Speakers*:
>> Tomaso Minelli and the Digital Doge of Venice (Fabio Carrera)
>>
>> *Abstract*:
>> Tomaso Minelli (and Fabio) will talk about his experience in creating the
>> award-winning app for public transportation called daaab.it. We will
>> take a look 'under the hood' at our use of Firebase and the Transit Feeds
>> on Google Maps, including Real Time feeds and will discuss some design
>> choices that lead to the use of 'regular' databases for some aspects of the
>> project.
>>
>> *Where*:
>> Simtable / Redfish Office
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>>
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>> offline if interested in joining in ($10).
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Re: [FRIAM] *TODAY* 9/20 Wedtech Brownbag : Tomaso Minelli and Fabio Carrera: The Architecture of Daaab.it: a public transportation app.

[Stephen Guerin]

Today's talk will be screencast at https://joinme.com/SimtableSantaFe.
Starting at 12:30p MDT. We'll send out the recorded link after the talk,
too.

-Stephen

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Stephen Guerin <
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> **TODAY**  Note this talk is today on *Tuesday* not the usual Wednesday
> timeslot
>
> Tuesday 9/20 12:30p
>
> *Speakers*:
> Tomaso Minelli and the Digital Doge of Venice (Fabio Carrera)
>
> *Abstract*:
> Tomaso Minelli (and Fabio) will talk about his experience in creating the
> award-winning app for public transportation called daaab.it. We will take
> a look 'under the hood' at our use of Firebase and the Transit Feeds on
> Google Maps, including Real Time feeds and will discuss some design choices
> that lead to the use of 'regular' databases for some aspects of the project.
>
> *Where*:
> Simtable / Redfish Office
> 1600 Lena Street Suite D1
>
> BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have a lunch order. Let me know
> offline if interested in joining in ($10).
>
>
>
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[FRIAM] *TODAY* 9/20 Wedtech Brownbag : Tomaso Minelli and Fabio Carrera: The Architecture of Daaab.it: a public transportation app.

[Stephen Guerin]

**TODAY**  Note this talk is today on *Tuesday* not the usual Wednesday
timeslot

Tuesday 9/20 12:30p

*Speakers*:
Tomaso Minelli and the Digital Doge of Venice (Fabio Carrera)

*Abstract*:
Tomaso Minelli (and Fabio) will talk about his experience in creating the
award-winning app for public transportation called daaab.it. We will take a
look 'under the hood' at our use of Firebase and the Transit Feeds on
Google Maps, including Real Time feeds and will discuss some design choices
that lead to the use of 'regular' databases for some aspects of the project.

*Where*:
Simtable / Redfish Office
1600 Lena Street Suite D1

BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have a lunch order. Let me know
offline if interested in joining in ($10).



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[FRIAM] Fwd: Confronting Complexity by Casti, Jones, and Pennock

[Stephen Guerin]

Congratulations to Roger Jones and John Casti (and Michael Pennock) on
their new book:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Roger Jones 
Date: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:56 PM
Subject: Confronting Complexity by Casti, Jones, and Pennock
To: Roger Jones 


Friends,

Our new book is out, *Confronting Complexity: X-Events, Resilience, and
Human Progress, *By John Casti, Michael Pennock and me. You can check it
out here:

http://thex-press.com/confronting-complexity/

Regards,
rdj

-- 

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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] *Tuesday* 9/20 Wedtech Brownbag : Tomaso Minelli and Fabio Carrera: The Architecture of Daaab.it: a public transportation app.

[Stephen Guerin]

yes, well record and you can beam into join.me/SimtableSantaFe. there's
also local numbers in Italy you can call into.

On Sep 14, 2016 11:32 AM, "Owen Densmore" <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> Damn! I'll be in Italy. Maybe we can successfully make a video of it?
>
>-- Owen
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Stephen Guerin <
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
>> **save the date**  Note this is *Tuesday* not Wednesday
>>
>> Tuesday 9/20 12:30p
>>
>> Speakers: Tomaso Minelli and the Digital Doge of Venice (Fabio Carrera)
>>
>> Abstract:
>> Tomaso Minelli (and Fabio) will talk about his experience in creating the
>> award-winning app for public transportation called daaab.it. We will
>> take a look 'under the hood' at our use of Firebase and the Transit Feeds
>> on Google Maps, including Real Time feeds and will discuss some design
>> choices that lead to the use of 'regular' databases for some aspects of the
>> project.
>>
>> Where:
>> Simtable / Redfish Office
>> 1600 Lena Street Suite D1
>>
>> BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have a lunch order. Let me know
>> offline if interested in joining in ($10).
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[FRIAM] *Tuesday* 9/20 Wedtech Brownbag : Tomaso Minelli and Fabio Carrera: The Architecture of Daaab.it: a public transportation app.

[Stephen Guerin]

**save the date**  Note this is *Tuesday* not Wednesday

Tuesday 9/20 12:30p

Speakers: Tomaso Minelli and the Digital Doge of Venice (Fabio Carrera)

Abstract:
Tomaso Minelli (and Fabio) will talk about his experience in creating the
award-winning app for public transportation called daaab.it. We will take a
look 'under the hood' at our use of Firebase and the Transit Feeds on
Google Maps, including Real Time feeds and will discuss some design choices
that lead to the use of 'regular' databases for some aspects of the project.

Where:
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1600 Lena Street Suite D1

BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have a lunch order. Let me know
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[FRIAM] Fwd: [netlogo-users] NetLogo 6.0 beta release

[Stephen Guerin]

Some nice changes in Netlogo 6.0 including, more powerful tasks, 3D terrain
surfaces, cleaner video creation and viewing and multilevel (composable)
models

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Date: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:00 PM
Subject: [netlogo-users] NetLogo 6.0 beta release
To: netlogo-us...@yahoogroups.com




The Center for Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling at
Northwestern University is pleased to announce the release of NetLogo 6.0,
available for free download from our site at https://ccl.northwestern.
edu/netlogo/download.shtml (select 6.0 Beta from the drop down menu).

NetLogo 6.0 is a major new release of NetLogo. The version released today
is a beta release, NetLogo 6.0-beta1. It is especially important for us to
get feedback and bug reports from users during this beta period, so we can
optimize the NetLogo 6.0 release.

The NetLogo user community continues to experience much growth. We've had
many hundreds of thousands of downloads in the past year from our website.
Maintaining the large code-base, adding features to support our users, and
expanding the models library requires considerable resources. Please *consider
making a donation* at our site http://ccl.northwestern.
edu/netlogo/giving.shtml. All donation sizes help.

NetLogo 6.0 introduces changes to usability, look and feel, and to the core
language. One major change is that “tasks” have been upgraded to more
powerful “anonymous procedures”. Anonymous procedures, unlike the tasks
they replace, support the use of named arguments and allow for the creation
of more powerful, flexible, readable code. The task primitive has been
removed as part of the replacement, since -> is now used to create
anonymous procedures. Other major changes are the addition of three new
powerful extensions: ls, vid, and view2.5d. In general, we are working
towards modularizing special capabilities into extensions rather than
making them a part of the core language. The extensions can greatly enhance
NetLogo’s capabilities.

The most major new extension is the LevelSpace extension (ls) that allows
modelers to programmatically open, control, and close NetLogo models from
inside NetLogo models, and code systems of multi-level models in NetLogo.
For example, the Model Interactions Example model in the models library (in
Code Examples/Extension Examples/ls/) connects an ecology model to a model
of climate change to explore how climate change interacts with ecological
systems. Other new extensions include vid, a replacement for the qtj extension
and the movie- prims which offers support for playing and creating videos,
and the view2.5d extension, which allows you to visualize 2d models on a 3d
surface, using height to represent agent properties.

Most models created in NetLogo 5 or later will work in NetLogo 6 after
automatic conversion upon first opening the model. Models created in
NetLogo 4 or earlier should be opened in NetLogo 5 first and saved before
opening in NetLogo 6. If you have any trouble, please consult the
transition guide
.

The following is a list of changes made since NetLogo 5.3.1.
Feature
Changes

   - The NetLogo code editor now offers autocompletion support. Simply
   press the Control key and the spacebar at the same time while typing a word
   and you will see a list of similar NetLogo primitives as suggestions.
   - NetLogo supports multi-level agent-based modeling with the LevelSpace
   extension
   - Line numbering can be enabled in the NetLogo code editor by choosing
   "Edit" > "Show Line Numbers".
   - The view resizing arrows have been removed and the tick counter has
   been relocated under the speed slider.
   - When editing NetLogo code, users can right-click a variable name or
   primitive and choose "Show Usage" to see all usages of that name in the
   file.
   - When editing NetLogo code, users can right-click a variable name and
   choose "Jump to Declaration" to see where in the file that variable is
   declared.
   - The NetLogo interface editor now supports "Undo" for widget addition,
   deletion, and movement.
   - NetLogo can export code to HTML with code-colorization by choosing
   "Export Code" in the "Export" section of the "File" menu.
   - The look and feel of NetLogo on Mac OS X has changed significantly.
   NetLogo is now using the Oracle-supplied Java look and feel as opposed to a
   third-party look and feel used in prior versions.
   - Plots use a random number generator independent of the main-model
   random number 

Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Not a Drill: SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space

[Stephen Guerin]

Hmm, if the HD164595 is a Kardashev Type II Civilization, do you suppose
they're on twitter or github?



On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Interesting, if not terrifying!
> ​  ​
> http://observer.com/2016/08/not-a-drill-seti-is-investigatin
> g-a-possible-extraterrestrial-signal-from-deep-space/
>
> ​   -- Owen​
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Re: [FRIAM] Douglas Engelbart’s Unfinished Revolution

[Stephen Guerin]

Wow, while I've seen a few of his demos in the past I hadn't taken the time
to read:
  http://www.dougengelbart.org/pubs/augment-3906.html

Very good for a Sunday

I am blown away by how forward thinking they are and I would argue foresaw
developments in Applied Complexity with projected augmented reality with
interactive ABM way back from 1962. Nice quotes about Engelbart are here:

https://collectiveiq.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/the-human-side-of-doug-engelbart/

When you think of Engelbart and the credit for building of the mouse, I
like Bret Victor's point:

*“It’s as if they found the person who invented writing, and credited them
for inventing the pencil,” says Bret Victor re: tech writer interviews of
Engelbart. “The least important question you can ask about Engelbart is,
“What did he build?” […] The most important question you can ask about
Engelbart is, “What world was he trying to create?””*
—Bret Victor [source <http://worrydream.com/Engelbart/>]


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> I also like Engelbart's measure of Collective IQ from the article :
>
> He developed ways of analyzing how people acted inside an organization and
> specific techniques that he claimed would boost “collective IQ.” A set of
> detailed presentations on those methodologies started with what he called
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> people can *concurrently develop, integrate, and apply its knowledge* toward
> its mission,” (emphasis Engelbart’s).
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Great summary and certainly gives us pause to think about the Human
>> rather than Tech.
>>
>> He really was like that and used Augmentation in nearly every talk he
>> gave, and given his stature in Silly Valley, that's a lot!
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/517341/douglas-engelbarts-unfinished-revolution/
>>>
>>> ===
>>> Tom Johnson - Inst. for Analytic Journalism
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Re: [FRIAM] Douglas Engelbart’s Unfinished Revolution

[Stephen Guerin]

I also like Engelbart's measure of Collective IQ from the article :

He developed ways of analyzing how people acted inside an organization and
specific techniques that he claimed would boost “collective IQ.” A set of
detailed presentations on those methodologies started with what he called
CODIAK. “Collective IQ is a measure of how effectively a collection of
people can *concurrently develop, integrate, and apply its knowledge* toward
its mission,” (emphasis Engelbart’s).

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On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Great summary and certainly gives us pause to think about the Human rather
> than Tech.
>
> He really was like that and used Augmentation in nearly every talk he
> gave, and given his stature in Silly Valley, that's a lot!
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/517341/douglas-engelbarts-unfinished-revolution/
>>
>> ===
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>> Santa Fe, NM
>> SPJ Region 9 Director
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>> ===
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

Owen asks:
> has the OP (original post) been satisfied?

Has the this email thread answered your original question what an Accept
state is? And why it is called an Accept state?

Are we in an accept or reject state. Or like many threads is this
non-halting?

-S



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On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Just to calibrate: has the OP been satisfied?
>
> I *think* so, we discussed FSM's discussing their input string and their
> final state and whether that was the designated accept state.
>
> And tho a Turing Machine is more than a FSM, the vocabulary of states,
> input strings and so on should answer the OP.
>
> I'm not sure the additional ideas on computation were coherent enough to
> add to his interest, but then, knowing Nick, I could be wrong!
>
> Hope the book reading is progressing with success, given our help.
>
>-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick writes:
> I guess what I was fishing for is some sort of exploration of the idea
that not all procedures for arriving at answers are computations.

Many would argue (eg Seth Llloyd
http://www.nature.com/news/2002/020603/full/news020527-16.html) that *any*
process that involves changes of state is computation. Can you name a
"procedure for arriving at answers" that doesn't involve a series of
processes that change state?

-S

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Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

[Stephen Guerin]

Hi Pamela,

While open source gives some transparency, our direction is to move toward
more distributed AI where our data is not given to a centralized authority
before the AI is applied. Rather, we think that the AI should be more out
at the edge of the network with our sensors/cameras/microphones. The
derived information from the raw data could then be shared via agents
transacting on our behalf for collective action while maximizing privacy. A
Santa Fe Approach if you will :-)

We've been using Steve Mann's term Souveillance
 (in opposition to
Surveillance) as a shorthand for this idea along with the serverless p2p
solutions we're calling Acequia - a more grounded social structure and
water distribution system in opposition to a faceless centralized Cloud eg
water vapor in the sky :-)

-S

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On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Pamela McCorduck  wrote:

> I have some grave concerns about AI being concentrated in the hands of a
> few big firms—Google, FaceBook, Amazon, and so on. Elon Musk says the
> answer is open sourcing, but I’m skeptical. That said, I’d be interested in
> hearing other people’s solutions. Then again, you may not think it’s a
> problem.
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Robert Wall  wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Interesting article about Google and their foray [actually a Blitzkrieg,
> as they are buying up all of the brain trust in this area] into the world
> of machine learning presumably to improve the search customer experience.
> Could their efforts actually have unintended consequences for both the
> search customer and the marketing efforts of the website owners? It is
> interesting to consider. For example, for the former case, Google picking
> WebMD as the paragon website for the healthcare industry flies in the face
> of my own experience and, say, this *New York Times Magazine* article: A
> Prescription for Fear
> 
>  (Feb
> 2011).  Will this actually make WebMD the *de facto* paragon in the minds
> of the searchers?  For the latter, successful web marketing becomes
> increasingly subject to the latest Google search algorithms instead of the
> previously more expert in-house marketing departments. Of course, this is
> the nature of SEO--to game the algorithms to attract better rankings.  But,
> it seems those in-house marketing departments will need to up their game:
>
> In other ways, things are a bit harder. The field of SEO will continue to
>> become extremely technical. Analytics and big data are the order of the
>> day, and any SEO that isn’t familiar with these approaches has a lot of
>> catching up to do. Those of you who have these skills can look forward to a
>> big payday.
>
>
> Also, with respect to those charts anticipating exponential growth for AGI
> technology--even eclipsing human intelligence by mid-century--there is much
> reasoning to see this as overly optimistic [see, for example, Hubert
> Dreyfus' critique of Good Old Fashion AI: "What Computers Can't Do"].
> These charts kind of remind me of the "ultraviolet catastrophe" around the
> end of the 19th century. There are physical limitations that may well tamp
> progress and keep it to ANI.  With respect to AGI, there have been some
> pointed challenges to this "Law of Accelerating Returns."
>
> On this point, I thought this article in *AEON *titled "Creative Blocks:
> The very laws of physics imply that artificial intelligence must be
> possible. What’s holding us up?
>  
> (Oct
> 2012)" is on point concerning the philosophical and epistemological road
> blocks.  This one, titled "Where do minds belong?
> 
>  (Mar
> 2016)" discusses the technological roadblocks in an insightful, highly
> speculative, but entertaining manner.
>
> Nonetheless, this whole discussion is quite intriguing, no matter your
> stance, hopes, or fears. [image: ]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robert
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:
>
>> See
>> http://techcrunch.com/2016/06/04/artificial-intelligence-is-changing-seo-faster-than-you-think/?ncid=tcdaily
>> 
>>
>> Among other points: "...why doing regression analysis over every site,
>> without having the context of the search result that it is in, is supremely
>> flawed."
>> TJ
>>
>> 
>> Tom Johnson
>> Institute for Analytic 

[FRIAM] Mike Agar's New Mexican Column: State loses from one-way water dialogue

[Stephen Guerin]

It was back in March but I just saw it:

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/my_view/reader-view-state-loses-from-one-way-water-dialogue/article_4662cd14-b808-5cfb-b82d-f611b9895d9d.html

The New Mexico Water Dialogue held its annual gathering on Jan. 7 at the
Indian Pueblo Cultural Center in Albuquerque. I’ve been attending their
meetings for several years as a student of New Mexico water governance.
This year the presentations had a different tone, like a jilted lover in a
telenovela. It takes two to dialogue, and I had the feeling that the group
was exhausted after years of singing to a tone-deaf state.

Maybe it was the title, “Planning: How Can It Make a Difference?” The title
warns of the bad mood to come. If it isn’t going to make a difference, why
bother planning at all? Regional water planning is going on all over the
state. At the rollout meeting in Albuquerque — I was there — planning
seemed more like directions from on high to follow what had been
pre-planned. The process looked top-down and underfunded. There was no
promise that the recommendations by the regional groups would be taken
seriously. And that, apparently, is how it’s turning out.

Consider two of the hottest water issues in the state right now — the
Santolina development and the proposed Gila River diversion. Several
speakers raised serious questions, as yet unanswered, about the assumptions
about water on which those projects are based. And yet the approvals keep
on keepin’ on.

Or consider the panel of New Mexican scientists appointed by the
Legislature to report on climate change. Warmer on average is one
well-supported conclusion. That means, over the long haul, more
evapotranspiration, less snowmelt, and more groundwater use. Did this
inspire any proposals for water governance reform? No. The Legislature did
not renew the project.

It’s a cliché now, what with climate change and the Anthropocene, that both
bottom-up and top-down have to be part of water management, with a
continual conversation and shared power between the two. At the moment in
New Mexico, judging from the day of presentations, the top is hermetically
sealed so that the bottom has no way up.

The three main water policy authorities in the state are all filled by
executive appointment. Legislation last year proposed that thought should
be given to whom the appointees represent and what their qualifications
are. Water policy, never mind climate change, requires long-term
nonpartisan thinking, not authority that shifts with the political winds.
That proposed bill never made it to the House floor.

I left the meeting mid-afternoon, desperately seeking a positive conclusion
to the day. My feeling wasn’t that New Mexico water governance is an Edsel
in a Tesla world. It was that more people are saying exactly that, loud and
clear, in well-crafted arguments, based on solid evidence and good logic.

It would take a lengthy article to go down the list of presenters, detail
their experience and qualifications, and summarize their criticisms and
calls for action. You can see some of it for yourself if you go to the New
Mexico Water Dialogue webpage (
http://allaboutwatersheds.org/new-mexico-water-dialogue).

The good news was that so many distinguished water professionals agree on
the bad news and have good ideas for how to address it. I remembered a
quote, attributed to Gandhi, that goes something like this. “There go my
people. I must follow them, for I am their leader.” New Mexico water
governance needs a pair of running shoes, or maybe water wings would be a
better metaphor. It has a lot of catching up to do.

*Mike Agar is still trying to figure out New Mexico water. He has written
several pieces on the topic for the now dormant New Mexico mercury
(www.newmexicomercury.com ). More information on him
and his work at www.ethknowworks.com .*
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Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks. Russ. I've sympathetic to that perspective on matter.

Somewhat relatedly to the consciousness research, here's John Horgan's
skeptical observation "Dispatch from the Desert
"
covering the 2016 Consciousness Conference in Tucson in April. Stu was
briefly mentioned.

As a reminder, Horgan 1995 wrote the SciAM skeptical article "From
Complexity to Perplexity"


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On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> An antidote for Nick Thompsonism.  I've summarized
>  Galen
> Strawson's piece in the NYT on consciousness.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

[Stephen Guerin]

I composed my email before seeing Eric's post. Having now read his email, I
would say let's not get too distracted by Nick Lane's Vital Question for
the task we set ourselves at FRIAM.

I think Eric's talks bests represents what I was calling the view of life
as gradient dissipation and a property of the ecological whole and less a
property of an individual.

As a quick summary for the list, Nick and I have had a 10-year back and
forth discussion on evolution since his arrival in Santa Fe. We are setting
ourselves the task of coming to a common definition and perhaps explanation
of mechanism. If we fail to come to agreement, we hope to at least be able
to coherently state each other's position.

In this context, I was arguing that evolution is a description of the
historical change of the pathways of breakdown (and local buildup) of
gradients and that organisms (and by extension, species) are less a focus
in this description. Tangents on the list into the dynamics of vortices and
tornadoes have been related to the these arguments about
far-from-equilibrium explanations.

At FRIAM, I argued that we need updated descriptions and explanations of
Evolution in the same way that Chemistry has changed each time we
discovered new concepts like conservation of mass, thermodynamics, the atom
and quantum mechanics. Now that we have more modern descriptions of living
systems and explanations of origin of life, shouldn't our descriptions and
explanations of Evolution change along with it?



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On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com
> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> I downloaded Nick Lane's Vital Question book a couple months back. From a
> quick skim I got the sense it was a nice review of much of the work going
> on around non-equilibrium thermodynamic origin of life explanations by the
> "Seventh Day Ventists" (eg second law arguments for the emegence of life
> via gradient dissipation around deep sea vents). In addition to reviewing
> this work, Dr. Lane has original contributions as well. I would recommend
> it for anyone as a great introduction.
>
> In fact our own Eric Smith and Harold Morowitz (who just passed last
> month) work is mentioned in Vital Question. You might check out Eric's
> recent talk at the Aspen Institute (
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cwvj0XBKlE) which addresses a couple
> questions that came up at FRIAM yesterday.
>
> In particular, I think the talk much more elegantly describes the shift to
> defining life as an ecological pattern from the prior emphasis on the
> individual organism.
>
> on "are viruses alive" Eric challenges the meaning of a "living thing"
> https://youtu.be/0cwvj0XBKlE?t=48m21s
>
> Also Eric's SFI public lecture from a few years back is very relevant:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElMqwgkXguw
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> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Nick Thompson <
> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Friammers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Today’s meeting of the Mother Church got back to our old discussions of
>> complexity, gradients, and the origin of life.   In that connection I urged
>> everybody to read Nick Lane’s, *THE VITAL QUESTION: Energy, evolution,
>> and the origins of complex life.*  The fundamental theory is that life
>> was scaffolded by the microstructure and energy flows taking place in deep
>> ocean vents called “white smokers”.   I am curious to know if others have
>> read this book, and what you might think of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

I downloaded Nick Lane's Vital Question book a couple months back. From a
quick skim I got the sense it was a nice review of much of the work going
on around non-equilibrium thermodynamic origin of life explanations by the
"Seventh Day Ventists" (eg second law arguments for the emegence of life
via gradient dissipation around deep sea vents). In addition to reviewing
this work, Dr. Lane has original contributions as well. I would recommend
it for anyone as a great introduction.

In fact our own Eric Smith and Harold Morowitz (who just passed last month)
work is mentioned in Vital Question. You might check out Eric's recent talk
at the Aspen Institute (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cwvj0XBKlE) which
addresses a couple questions that came up at FRIAM yesterday.

In particular, I think the talk much more elegantly describes the shift to
defining life as an ecological pattern from the prior emphasis on the
individual organism.

on "are viruses alive" Eric challenges the meaning of a "living thing"
https://youtu.be/0cwvj0XBKlE?t=48m21s

Also Eric's SFI public lecture from a few years back is very relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElMqwgkXguw

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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Dear Friammers,
>
>
>
> Today’s meeting of the Mother Church got back to our old discussions of
> complexity, gradients, and the origin of life.   In that connection I urged
> everybody to read Nick Lane’s, *THE VITAL QUESTION: Energy, evolution,
> and the origins of complex life.*  The fundamental theory is that life
> was scaffolded by the microstructure and energy flows taking place in deep
> ocean vents called “white smokers”.   I am curious to know if others have
> read this book, and what you might think of it.
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

[Stephen Guerin]

 From the end of Owen's article:
“The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude
bigger than to produce it.”  -Alberto Brandolini

*Bullshit Science* then appears to be a spontaneous entropy-producing
process from which one can construct local devices to extract work  ;-)

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Clever! .. and my yearly read on what's wrong with science:
> ​​
> http://quillette.com/2016/02/15/the-unbearable-asymmetry-of-bullshit/
>
> ​   -- Owen​
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Fwd: A change in roles for Bob Ballance

[Stephen Guerin]

Cool! Congratulations, Bob!

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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:

> Our *It's The People's Data* colleague and FRIAM-At-St. Johns regular has
> headed East as one of 11 new Presidential Innovation Fellows!  (See link
> below)
> (Can we all chip in to get him an impressive bolo tie?)
>
> T.
> 
> Tom Johnson
> Institute for Analytic Journalism   -- Santa Fe, NM USA
> 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h)
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>  Director
> *Check out It's The People's Data
> *
> http://www.jtjohnson.com   t...@jtjohnson.com
> 
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bob Ballance 
> Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:39 PM
> Subject: A change in roles for Bob Ballance
> To: Tom Johnson 
>
>
> Hi Tom!
>
> Thanks for the note. It’s good to hear that you’re getting some traction
> with WPI and with the City.
>
> The fact of my appointment is public. Here’s a link to yesterday's
> announcement:
>
>
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/01/26/meet-newest-presidential-innovation-fellows
>
> Thanks, again, for filling me in on the progress this month. I hope to see
> you soon!
> Best to Dorothy -
>
> … Bob
>
>
>
>
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[FRIAM] Fwd: [netlogo-users] NetLogo Web release announcement

[Stephen Guerin]

Congratulations, Uri!


-

The Center for Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling at
Northwestern University is pleased to announce the release of NetLogo Web
which can be accessed online at http://www.netlogoweb.org/.


NetLogo Web is a version of NetLogo that runs entirely within your browser.
That means NetLogo Web will run on most hardware platforms, including
platforms that the NetLogo application can’t run on, such as tablets,
Chromebooks and smart phones. In the short term, NetLogo Web aims to
replace NetLogo applets as a means of easily distributing NetLogo models.
However, it already includes features not available in applets, like the
NetLogo Command Center. In the longer run, NetLogo Web will have most of
the features of the desktop version of NetLogo. Currently, it is easy to go
back and forth between NetLogo and NetLogo Web versions of models, as well
as to publish models written in NetLogo to the web.

While the desktop version of NetLogo is still recommended for most uses,
NetLogo Web runs most NetLogo Models Library models, and supports the
majority of the NetLogo language primitives. NetLogo Web additionally
offers limited support for editing model info and code. For more
information, on using NetLogo Web, see http://www.netlogoweb.org/info/.

Since NetLogo Web is a browser-based application, it will be in
continuous “live” development, meaning every time you access it, you may
find something new and different.

Creating NetLogo Web was a resource-intensive undertaking for the CCL Lab.
Maintaining the many projects in the NetLogo ecosystem and supporting the
needs of our users also requires considerable resources. Please consider
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Re: [FRIAM] appropriate content for FRIAM

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

Rest assured, all your posts are well within the ethereal boundaries.

That said, any future posting of neo-darwinist-inspired evolutionary
psychology logic will be considered bad aesthetic form ;-p

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:49 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:


 On 08/13/2015 10:19 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:

 I apologize for this REPLY TO ALL error.  I was actually reaching out to
 Owen about an old private argument concerning what was appropriate for
 FRIAM.  I hope you all will forgive me.


 Well, private discussions are one thing.  But, I would very much
 appreciate some guidelines on what was [in]appropriate content for the
 mailing list.  It's probably obvious that I have no social skills and,
 hence, no ability to infer what's [in]appropriate.  Being relatively free
 with the thread collapse and delete buttons, I can end up pretty biased
 toward the things that interest me, which runs the risk of crossing the
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[FRIAM] Fwd: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life, Abstract deadline is Aug. 1st

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Subject: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin
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*Upcoming Conference on*

*“Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life”*

*Nov. 9-13th, 2015 at Carnegie Institution of Washington, Washington D.C.*



Physics and chemistry have arrived at a deep understanding of the
non-living world. Can we expect to reach similar insights, integrating
concepts and quantitative explanation, in biology? Life at its origin
should be particularly amenable to discovery of scientific laws governing
biology, since it marks the point of departure from a predictable
physical/chemical world to the novel and history-dependent living world.
This conference aims to explore ways to build a deeper understanding of the
nature of biology, by focusing on modeling the origins of life on a
sufficiently abstract level. The conference will cover a diverse range of
topics bearing on the problem of solving life’s origins, starting from
prebiotic conditions on Earth and possibly on other planets and moving up
through the hierarchy of structure in biology all the way to social
complexity. The focus is therefore on studying the origin of life as part
of a larger concern with the origins of organization, including major
transitions in the living state and structure formation in complex systems
science.



Each day of the conference is organized around a different integrative
theme, kicked off by an invited keynote presentation. Themes include:
information in the living world, the origin of organization, the self in
the world, re-conceptualizing the nature of the living state, and an
integrated view of the origin and organization of the biosphere. Keynotes
include: Chris Adami (Michigan State U.), Lee Cronin (U. Glasgow), Sara
Imari Walker (Arizona State U.), Eric Smith (ELSI/Sante Fe Institute) and
Douglas Erwin (Smithsonian Institution).



The goal of the conference is to concentrate on integrative conceptual and
foundational themes, and not to review the field. We hope to facilitate new
collaborations and identify specific experimental and theoretical projects
that significantly advance our understanding of the origin of life. To
maintain a productive workshop-style atmosphere, the conference is limited
to 100 participants. Participants must therefore apply to ensure a space at
the meeting. There is no registration fee.



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discussion.  *Abstract submissions for poster presentations are being
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Re: [FRIAM] A New Society for the Study of Cultural Evolution

[Stephen Guerin]

Yay! Cause at this point the world could really use social activism and
public science education through an evolutionary psychology lens. Woohoo
SocioBiology 2.0*

-S

* now with Multi-Level Group Selection flavor crystals.

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 So, Glen.  Are you fur it or agin it?

 n

 Nicholas S. Thompson
 Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
 Clark University
 http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 -Original Message-
 From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ep
 ropella
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:04 PM
 To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
 Subject: [FRIAM] A New Society for the Study of Cultural Evolution



 https://evolution-institute.org/project/society-for-the-study-of-cultural-evolution/

  A New Society for the Study of Cultural Evolution
 
  Why a new society?
 
  Our capacity for culture stems from our ability to receive, process,
 integrate, and transmit information across generations. The study of human
 culture and cultural change has made great strides during the last few
 decades in fields such as anthropology, computer science, evolutionary
 biology, neurobiology, psychology, and sociology. Yet, the study of
 cultural change as an evolutionary process, similar to genetic evolution
 but with its own inheritance mechanisms, is only now becoming a central
 area of scientific inquiry that spans these disciplines and holds much
 potential for academic integration.
 
  Outside the Ivory Tower, all public policies attempt to accomplish
 cultural change in a practical sense to reach their various objectives, yet
 they rarely draw upon an explicit scientific theory of cultural change. A
 new society is needed to catalyze the study of cultural change from a
 modern evolutionary perspective, both inside and outside the Ivory Tower.
 
  A recent EI workshop, “Advancing the Study of Cultural Evolution:
 Academic Integration and Policy Applications,” laid the groundwork for the
 formation of a society. The workshop was organized by Michele Gelfand, a
 cultural psychologist at the University of Maryland, and EI President David
 Sloan Wilson. The participants represented a melting pot of disciplines
 that need to become integrated to create a science of cultural change
 informed by evolutionary theory. They strongly endorsed the need for a
 society to accomplish the objectives identified during the workshop.
 
  What will the SSCE do?
 
  We envision an activist society that does much more than publish a
 journal and host an annual meeting. One of our first items of business will
 be to collectively identify “Grand Challenges” in the study of cultural
 evolution; these will define the agenda of the society. Then we will work
 toward the creation of basic scientific research programs and practical
 initiatives to tackle the Grand Challenges. We expect scientific research
 and real-world solutions to go together through the creation of field sites
 for the study of cultural evolution, similar to biological field sites.
 
  Who should join the SSCE?
 
  We encourage the following people to become founding members:
 
  Academic professionals, graduate students, and undergraduate
 students from any discipline relevant to cultural evolution. We especially
 encourage the next generation of scientists to become involved.
  Anyone (professional or nonprofessional) who is trying to accomplish
 positive cultural change in the real world and who would like to base their
 efforts on cultural evolutionary theory.
  Anyone (professional or nonprofessional) with an intellectual
 interest in cultural evolutionary theory who would like to get involved and
 support the newly emerging field.
  We are especially eager for our members to come from all cultures
 around the world—an appropriate ideal for a Society for the Study of
 Cultural Evolution!
 
  What will happen right away?
 
  When you become a founding member…
 
  You will be added to our mailing list to receive regular
 communications.
  You will be consulted, if you desire, to provide input in the
 creation of bylaws for the society and important decisions concerning dues,
 an annual conference, and a journal.
  You can help us identify grand challenges for the study of cultural
 evolution.
  You can get involved in the projects that we create to tackle the
 grand challenges.
 
  We look forward to starting the SSCE with a diverse membership and to
 offer both intellectual stimulation and practical knowledge for improving
 the quality of life.
 
  Please help us recruit founding members by bringing our invitation to
 the attention of your friends and 

Re: [FRIAM] [Kitchen] FW: P. and V.

[Stephen Guerin]

“wotthehell,wotthehell.”

 Nick writes:

I am willing to bet a latte at our next meeting that you and I are the only
two people on this list who know the source of this quote.


Nick, is that you center stage left 3 rows back with Lee on your shoulders?
Jakarta 2014 that was so killer, right?
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JggVNB89dI

I'll take my latte with a double shot, Sir.

*Avril Lavigne Live*
*What The Hell*
You say that I'm messing with your head
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
All cause I was making out with your friend
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Love hurts whether it's right or wrong
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I can't stop cause I'm having too much fun
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

You're on your knees
Begging please
Stay with me
But honestly
I just need to be a little crazy

All my life I've been good,
But now whoa, I'm thinking what the hell
All I want is to mess around
And I don't really care about
If you love me
If you hate me
You can't save me
Baby, baby
All my life I've been good
But now
Whoa
What the hell

So what if I go out on a million dates
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
You never call or listen to me anyway
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I'd rather rage than sit around and wait all day
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Don't get me wrong
I just need some time to play

You're on your knees
Begging please
Stay with me
But honestly
I just need to be a little crazy

All my life I've been good,
But now
I'm thinking what the hell
All I want is to mess around
And I don't really care about

If you love me
If you hate me
You can't save me
Baby, baby
All my life I've been good
But now
Whoa
What the hell

La la la la la la la la
Whoa whoa
La la la la la la la la
Whoa whoa

You say that I'm messing with your head
Boy, I like messing in your bed
Yeah, I am messing with your head when
I'm messing with you in bed

All my life I've been good,
But now oh
I'm thinking what the hell
All I want is to mess around
And I don't really care about
All my life I've been good,
But now oh
I'm thinking what the hell
All I want is to mess around
And I don't really care about
If you love me
If you hate me
You can't save me
Baby, baby
All my life I've been good
But now
Whoa
What the hell

La la la la la
La la la la la
La la la la la
La la


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wrote:

 i have my ups and downs
  but wotthehell wotthehell
  yesterday sceptres and crowns
  fried oysters and velvet gowns
  and today i herd with bums
  but wotthehell wotthehell
  i wake the world from sleep
  as i caper and sing and leap
  when i sing my wild free tune
  wotthehell wotthehell
  under the blear eyed moon
  i am pelted with cast off shoon
  but wotthehell wotthehell


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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Photogrammetry using Drone Imagery of Santa Fe Institute

[Stephen Guerin]

Good and important questions, Ray.

Our bit was doing a ground-based photogrammetric survey using mobile phones
and a 24' painter extension poles. The use was for research in methods of
collecting structure and activities data for Urban Studies. eg, does
photogrammetry from the ground approximate LiDAR measurements of building
heights in areas of the world where LIDAR coverage is sparse. And can we
capture and monitor in real time.

While we were surveying, a member of the SFI and hobbyist/recreational
drone user noticed our work and volunteered drone imagery. Imagery was not
sold nor contracted for and permission was granted to fly after hours when
staff and students were gone.

Of course I am not an authority in the legal issues around drones but a
resource that addresses this is http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/.  It explains
how public entities and commercial user have more restrictions than
recreational user.

At a larger scale, we think there is a strong need to have privacy embedded
in pointcloud data - very similar to HIPAA regulations intent that looks
for aggregate benefit while protecting individual privacy. We think there's
distributed ways of aggregating individual's pointcloud data without using
centralized servers while using agents to mediate questions asked of the
data. Somewhat inspiring to us is the idea of Souveillance instead of
Surveillance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

We'd like to talk with anyone that interested in this space and
applications.

-S

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On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Parks, Raymond rcpa...@sandia.gov wrote:

  So, if we did this as part of an engagement, we would need permission
 from the owner of the property, possibly need permission from owners of
 adjacent properties that might be filmed, and the property owner would need
 to post notices that video surveillance is taking place to warn all staff
 and visitors.  These rules come down to us from DOE and from imposing them
 on ourselves.  Do similiar privacy/authority rules apply to you?

  Ray Parks
 Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer
 V: 505-844-4024  M: 505-238-9359  P: 505-951-6084
 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov
 SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder)
 JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder)



  On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

  Here's some 3D photogrammetry results from Friday's drone flyover of
 SFI.

image.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YxfIMCDuHA

  We're working on efficient pipelines for recovering and sharing realtime
 pointclouds with mobile phones.

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Book signing tonight - Ken Stanley at Collected Works Bookstore

[Stephen Guerin]

Book signing tonight by Ken Stanley.

Ken is articulate about biasing search algorithms toward divergence
(novelty) instead of premature convergence resulting from fitness functions:

  see video:
http://www.santafe.edu/research/videos/play/?id=1fdd0056-afc2-4967-90a0-9ffeaecdc330

Could be loosely related to movement into Stu's adjacent possible.

-S





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*Book Signing with Ken Stanley*


*Tonight, Tuesday, June 16 • 6:00 pm Collected Works Bookstore • 202
Galisteo St., Santa Fe*
Ken Stanley and 'The Myth of the Objective'

*Ken Stanley*

Associate Professor, University of Central Florida, Department of
Electrical Engineering and Computer Science; SFI sabbatical visitor

“To achieve our highest goals, we must be willing to abandon them,” write
SFI sabbatical visitor Ken Stanley and his colleague Joel Lehman in their
new book, *The Myth of the Objective*. The researchers coined the term
“Objective Paradox” to describe how trying to accomplish a particular thing
can result in doing nothing at all.

*Stanley will speak and sign copies of the book today, June 16, starting at
6:00 pm at Collected Works Bookstore (202 Galisteo Street) in downtown
Santa Fe.*

In the book, Stanley and Lehman place instances of the Objective Paradox
into the greater context of modern culture, where goals, objectives,
progress reports, and measurable outcomes drive and constrain most every
aspect of our daily lives. They also note historical examples of innovation
that arose serendipitously, wholly incidental from their discoverers'
objectives or intent.

“The first computer would never have been built,” Stanley says, “if the
goal had been to build a computer.”

The book gives readers a historical and scientific framework for
understanding the nature of innovation. For those who feel constrained by
educational standards, research objectives, or newsstand injunctions to
achieve rock-hard abs, it can also serve as a therapeutic confirmation that
there is, indeed, another path.

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[FRIAM] Photogrammetry using Drone Imagery of Santa Fe Institute

[Stephen Guerin]

Here's some 3D photogrammetry results from Friday's drone flyover of SFI.

  [image: Inline image 1]
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YxfIMCDuHA

We're working on efficient pipelines for recovering and sharing realtime
pointclouds with mobile phones.

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[FRIAM] Tom Johnson's opinion piece in Santa Fe NewMexican

[Stephen Guerin]

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/my_view/are-politicians-foreclosing-on-high-tech-future/article_6813cb82-5952-5926-82c9-725ef0a0aecc.html

Are politicians foreclosing on high-tech future

Tom Johnson | 0 comments
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It is sad, frustrating and discouraging to read something written by
politicians that demonstrates they apparently have not done appropriate
research before making public declarations.

This is especially so when such an elected official is in a position of
specific legislative influence.

That happened last week when Rep. James Smith of District 22, chairman of
the interim Science, Technology and Telecom Committee in the New Mexico
House, wrote about telecommunications policy (“Could the FCC foreclose on
high-tech future,” My View, June 6).

Addressing the Federal Communications Commission’s regulation of the
Internet, Smith wrote, “light regulation … gave Internet providers freedom
to innovate with new services and new infrastructure … .” Further, “this
move … has fueled the dramatic expansion of Internet technology in America.

“This symbiotic relationship between minimal regulation and maximum
investment and innovation continues,” he said.

First, remember that the initial Internet concepts and technologies were
developed with taxpayer research dollars, not private enterprise
investment. Second, the “new services” are coming not from the digital
providers, but from clever individuals and talented startup teams that
could possibly do even more if they had access to true broadband at
affordable prices.

Third, research year after year indicates that U.S. citizens are paying
higher prices for slower connectivity. As the Open Technology Institute
reports: “Data that we have collected in the past three years demonstrates
that the majority of U.S. cities surveyed lag behind their international
peers, paying more money for slower Internet access.” (See
http://bit.ly/1FJL1vB and http://bit.ly/1MAlYRa)

Companies providing Internet connectivity — and we really only have three
in Santa Fe, and none providing true high-speed, fiber-optic connections —
all seek to minimize their costs and maximize their revenue. That’s
inherent in capitalism. For customers, that means minimal connectivity,
slow speeds and high monthly bills.

Appropriate “regulation” of the Internet would seek collaborative
government/private enterprise endeavors with the goal of maximizing
customer benefits (i.e. fiber to the home with maximum digital up and down
speeds) at minimal cost. Such would be the feedstock for economic, social,
educational, health and governmental progress in the digital era.

The high-speed, digital train is rapidly leaving stations around the world.
New Mexico needs political conductors and engineers capable of running that
train with *informed* knowledge, insight and vision.


*Tom Johnson is co-founder of the Institute for Analytic Journalism in
Santa Fe.*

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[FRIAM] Need your help! Can you take a photo or two at 2:20p (15 minutes from now)

[Stephen Guerin]

We are researching some photogrammetry approaches for recovering 3D point
clouds of clouds/plumes. We need your help.

At 2:20p today (20 minutes from now) please take a picture of the clouds
above the Sangres (pointing at the ski basin) and photos of the Jemez
(point around Los Alamos/Redondo Peak). It would be helpful if you can get
some of the terrain in the image as well.

If you have GPS please turn it on and let your photo be geotagged. Or when
you send in the photos, estimate where you were in Google maps.

If you happen to have a phone on your dash, it would be great to take a 15
second video as you drive pointing at the clouds.

You can send photos to step...@simtable.com. Include make of phone or
camera type and focal length if know or not already in the EXIF data.

We'll publish the results of our Point Cloud^2 (point cloud cloud).

If you get this late, we'll probably repeat the experiment in the future
soon.

Thanks!!!

-Stephen

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[FRIAM] On the occasion of Owen's 0x49 Birthday

[Stephen Guerin]

As Owen has heroically delved into the efficient handling of color in ABM
this year, Cody put together a birthday tribute in Agentscript.

Happy Birthday, Owen!   http://bit.ly/ColorMapMan

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[FRIAM] Congratulations on publication of your new book, Eric!

[Stephen Guerin]

[image: Inline image 1]
http://iopscience.iop.org/book/978-0-7503-1137-3

*Symmetry and Collective Fluctuations in Evolutionary Games*
In this monograph we bring together a conceptual treatment of evolutionary
dynamics and a path-ensemble approach to non-equilibrium stochastic
processes. Our framework is evolutionary game theory, in which the map from
individual types and their interactions to the fitness that determines
their evolutionary success is modeled as a game played among agents in the
population. Our approach, however, is not anchored either in analogy to
play or in motivations to interpret particular interactions as games.
Rather, we argue that games are a flexible and reasonably generic framework
to capture, classify and analyze the processes in development and some
forms of inter-agent interaction that lie behind arbitrary
frequency-dependent fitness models.

Authors: Eric Smith and Supriya Krishnamurthy

doi:10.1088/978-0-7503-1137-3
Published January 2015.
Online ISBN: 978-0-7503-1137-3
Print ISBN: 978-0-7503-1138-0

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Re: [FRIAM] eye-candy for weather nerds

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick asks:

 What does anybody else see?


Karman vortex streets / Kelvin-Helmholtz instability?

And I can see Russia from my house.

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wrote:

 Have a look at:




 https://ia600505.us.archive.org/16/items/LargePosterSizedPhoto/ut2100___wvg.gif



 What I see here is tropical storms as packets of moisture and energy that
 get flung out of the intertropical convergence zone into the temperate
 westerlies.  This is supposed to have something to do with the deformation
 of the polar vortex that then results in a compensatory movement of cold
 dry air southward into the US.



 What does anybody else see?



 N



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 http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/



 
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[FRIAM] Link to Pradeep Sen's Dual Photography

[Stephen Guerin]

At FRIAM, there was a discussion on Pradeep's work on Dual Photography.
Here's a link to his research which includes the paper and a nice video:
  http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/dual_photography/

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Linux administrator position at the NM Environment Department

[Stephen Guerin]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Montoya, Mary, NMENV maryh.mont...@state.nm.us
Date: Feb 19, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Linux administrator position at the NM Environment Department
To: stephen.gue...@redfish.com stephen.gue...@redfish.com
Cc:

 Hi Steve -



We have a job posting for a Linux administrator at the link below.  If you
know anyone who might be interested, could you pass it along?  The state's
recruitment site is a bit difficult to work with.  It requires that the
applicant upload college transcripts if they state they have a degree -
otherwise the application never gets forwarded to the hiring official.
We've lost out on several good potential candidates due to problems with
the submission process so I'd encourage applicants to also contact the
hiring official if they have questions about the process.  Pay at the state
is still quite challenged compared to the market.  There are some
advantages ( good people to work with like me and a very good mission ).
This position has been budgeted at midpoint which is about 60K.  There is
only a little bit of room around that budgeted amount.



http://agency.governmentjobs.com/newmexico/default.cfm?action=viewJobjobID=777842hit_count=yesheaderFooter=1promo=0transfer=0WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E-1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND_KEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E



We will have another Network/Sys Admin position posting in a few weeks that
will be at a slightly higher level.



Hope all is well with you.

___



Mary H. Montoya

505.476.3090

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Re: [FRIAM] Article in New Scientist

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Iain gave a nice talk to Friam back in 2006:

http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/2006-December/005026.html

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 Apologies if you have seen this, but if not you may find it of interest.
 -Tom Johnson
 On Feb 15, 2014 5:49 PM, Michael Lissack michael.liss...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Home http://www.newscientist.com/ |Physics  
 Mathhttp://www.newscientist.com/section/physics-math
 |Life http://www.newscientist.com/section/life | In-Depth 
 Articleshttp://www.newscientist.com/section/in-depth
  Mind meld: The genius of swarm thinking

- 04 February 2014 by *Michael 
 Brooks*http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Michael+Brooks
- Magazine issue 2954 http://www.newscientist.com/issue/2954. *Subscribe
and 
 save*http://subscription.newscientist.com/bundles/bundles.php?promCode=6458packageCodes=PTAofferCode=Q

  Video: Group genius: Why fish are smarter in 
 swarmshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIRxUIs7N0

 *When animals swarm they exhibit a complex collective intelligence that
 could help us build robots, heal wounds and understand the brain*

 IAIN COUZIN does not have fond memories of field research. Early in his
 career, he travelled to Mauritania in north-west Africa to follow a swarm
 of locusts. Devastation caused by the insects meant no one was selling food
 and the team was forced to live off dried camel entrails. Couzin, a
 vegetarian at the time, was violently ill. I was hallucinating - I thought
 I was going to die. By the time he recovered, a huge sand storm had blown
 in. The researchers were trapped in their tents for several days and when,
 eventually, they emerged, the locusts had gone, blown away by the storm. I
 was out there for two months and I got absolutely no usable data, he says.
 It was the worst experience of my life.

 Fieldwork can be difficult at the best of times, and it would appear that 
 Couzin,
 who is at Princeton University, http://icouzin.princeton.edu/ is not
 the only swarm scientist averse to it. One of the tricky things is how to
 study the interactions between animals when their numbers are so huge. So
 researchers have generally stayed indoors with their computer models.
 However, these are only as good as the information you put into them, and
 often they have not proved terribly enlightening. You can recreate
 swarm-like behaviour without really understanding why it exists. Now,
 though, researchers are starting to see swarms as living entities with
 senses, motivations and evolved behaviour. From this new view is coming a
 much better understanding of how animals act collectively.

 This does not simply tell us about flocking birds, shoaling fish,
 swarming locusts, and the like. It has implications for how we understand
 all sorts of collective action. There is a limit to what a single organism
 can compute, but the combined information-processing power of a swarm is
 more than the sum of its parts. Applying this concept to other complex
 systems provides insights in all sorts of areas, from fighting disease to
 building robot swarms. It might even provide a way of thinking about the
 human brain.

 Perfect swarm *(Image: Viola Ago)*

 For a long time, the standard approach to studying synchronised movement
 was to model the animals concerned as self-propelled particles following
 a few simple rules, such as keep a body length away from your nearest
 neighbours and match the speed and orientation of the organism in front.
 This physics-led approach, which treats animals as mindless objects, is
 almost certainly too simplistic - a point that was brought home to Couzin a
 few years ago.

 In an attempt to understand how locust swarms march together across an
 area of land, he and his colleagues had built a model which represented the
 insects as a collection of particles, rather like the atoms in a gas. To
 coordinate movement and prevent collisions, each particle simply had to
 adjust its speed and direction in response to the speed, proximity and
 direction of its neighbours. The team's findings were published in
 *Science* in 
 2006http://icouzin.princeton.edu/wp-content/uploads/file/PDFs/Buhl%20et%20al,%202006.pdf.
 Only later did they discover the flaw in their model. Watching real locusts
 in the lab, they were surprised to find fewer at the end of their
 experiments than at the start. Far from avoiding collision, they were
 exterminating one another as they marched. We discovered by chance that
 the swarm is driven by cannibalism. Everyone is trying to eat everyone else
 while avoiding being eaten, says Couzin. That was a real wake-up call.

 Since then, Couzin 

Re: [FRIAM] Ga Tech Masters in CompSci

[Stephen Guerin]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Gary Schiltz
g...@naturesvisualarts.comwrote:

 I’m so ambivalent about this and MOO in general. From the standpoint of
 learning, it offers many advantages, including training many more people
 who don’t have the resources to attend a college or university (notice I
 said training, not educating). From a social standpoint, there are so many
 intangibles to be gained by spending time face-to-face with other knowledge
 seekers (wow, does that sound idealistic).


Eric Bonabeau (BiosGroup Paris and founder Icosystem) joined on as Dean of
Computational Sciences at Minerva. Interesting to me is that while the courses
are online, students are required to study together and live in residence
facilities.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/minerva-schools-at-kgi-names-deans-of-computational-and-natural-sciences-231555771.html
http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/minerva-start-up-college-hires-academic-leaders/48205
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/photos/the-radically-experimental-university-minerva-schools-of-kgi-slideshow/bonabeau-minerva-project-smiles-during-meeting-san-francisco-photo-060227588.html

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Re: [FRIAM] the new photosynth

[Stephen Guerin]

hmm, I was just looking at open Seadragon (
http://openseadragon.github.io/examples/tilesource-osm/), a javascript port
on Seadragon on which Photosynth was built.

Curious to see what Blaise Agüera y Arcas will work on at Google after his
departure from Microsoft this week:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/a-microsoft-star-goes-to-google/?_r=0

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:41 PM, cody dooderson d00d3r...@gmail.comwrote:

 I agree. magic. Its like the marauders map in 3d.

 Cody Smith


 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Marcus G. Daniels 
 mar...@snoutfarm.comwrote:

 Must be magic..

 http://photosynth.net/preview

 
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Fwd: Cassini Photo: Stunning New Views of Saturn’s Hexagon Storm – News Watch

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote:

 If these systems move into a dynamic hexagonal mode, might it be possible
 that, if one could drill down into the thing, some fractal relationships
 would appear?


Big whirls have little whirls that feed on their velocity,
and little whirls have lesser whirls and so on to viscosity.
  - Lewis F Richardson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Fry_Richardson,
1922

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Re: [FRIAM] Vector programs? and the better os

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On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:

 I think you should respond to his next reminder sent as an Illustrator
 file with:

 %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
 %%Creator: [Gillian Densmore - by hand]
 /Times-Roman findfont 32 scalefont setfont 100 200 translate 37.5 rotate 2 1 
 scale newpath 0 0 moveto
 (Thanks Dad!) true charpath 0.5 setlinewidth 0.4 setgray stroke
 %%EOF


Steve, it's all ball bearings and SVG these days.

Gil, you can also take a look at a svg-edit as a browser-based editor:
http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.6/editor/svg-editor.html. You
can send your dad this:


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xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
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  titleLayer 1/title
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id=svg_8 opacity=0.7 xlink:href=
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[FRIAM] Fwd: [WedTech] Fwd: [Lectures] Community Lecture - Tonight, November 6, 2013

[Stephen Guerin]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Smith s...@lava3d.com
Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WedTech] Fwd: [Lectures] Community Lecture - Tonight,
November 6, 2013
To: wedt...@redfish.com


Just now watching the Live Stream (thanks to Ron Newman) wondering why
I ever bother to try to attend in person!

And kicking myself (again) for discarding the MANIAC manual I
inherited when I came to the lab in 1980...

And a link to Brower's book The Starship and The Canoe describing
George's very grounded and clever way of being a rebellious teen.

I read his book (Turing's Cathedral), which was quite interesting and
I definitely want to hear his talk. The book isn't really the history
of the development of computers in general but more the history of
that part of the development of computers most closely associated with
the work of von Neumann.

Bruce


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Re: [FRIAM] FW: Wonkbook: Obamacare's web site is really bad

[Stephen Guerin]

I just switched Yuri's account to 'moderated' until he returns. Hopefully
that will avoid the noisy traffic.

-Stephen

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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Eric Smith desm...@santafe.edu wrote:

 I think it says he is traveling until the 16th of October, and if you need
 anything, call Elena Fedorova.


 On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:15 PM, cody dooderson wrote:

 is that an automated response from yuri?

 Cody Smith


 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, y...@icgamma.ru y...@icgamma.ru wrote:

 Я нахожусь в отпуске до 16 октября. По срочным вопросам обращайтесь к
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[FRIAM] ***reminder today*** [WedTech] Emma Gould to speak: WedTech 8/21/2013: 11:30-12:30

[Stephen Guerin]

 ***What I did this Summer*
 **
*Emma Gould
** LAVA Intern Extraordinaire **

WedTech
Simtable offices
*1600 Lena Street D #1
Santa Fe, New Mexico, 87505
talk: 11:30-12:30
lunch at 2nd street Brewery: 12:30-2:00


Emma, who grew up in Albuquerque, NM is a Junior at Smith College majoring
in Physics.
Emma spent the summer as an Intern at LAVA working with Steve Smith, Fred
Unterseher and Panaiotis on a variety of technology studies and projects.

   - Photogrammetry of Sculpture
   - Laser/Water-Jet cutting for Sculpture
   - Digital Holography
   - Ruby Programming in SketchUp
   - Building a Electro-Mechano-Pneumo circuit
   - *Omnistereoscopic Camera* Arrays*
   - *Musification of Complex Systems**
   - *Immersive Storytelling**

** The last three items were barely touched on... it *was* a busy summer!*

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[FRIAM] Fwd: [Biota] ECAL'93 Proceedings: 100 early Artificial Life papers available online for the first time!

[Stephen Guerin]

Forward from Tim Taylor on Biota.org list:

Open publishing is catching on, albeit with a 20 year delay :-)

Some great gems from this conference.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Tim Taylor t...@tim-taylor.com
Date: Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:27 AM
Subject: [Biota] ECAL'93 Proceedings: 100 early Artificial Life papers
available online for the first time!

 I am pleased to announce an open-access electronic version of the
Proceedings of the Second European Conference on Artificial Life (ECAL'93),
now available at http://alife.org/ecal93/proceedings

ECAL'93 took place in Brussels in May 1993. One hundred papers were
presented at the conference, covering a wide variety of topics (including
hard, soft and wet artificial life), with contributions from many well
known authors. A hard-copy version of the proceedings (comprising 1179
pages over two volumes) was distributed to attendees, but this was not
published more widely.

The new electronic proceedings comprises scanned PDF versions of the
original proceedings. This is the first time that many of these papers have
been freely available.

The papers provide a fascinating snapshot of the early development of the
field of Artificial Life, 20 years later on. In addition, I think that many
of the papers will be of relevance and interest to contemporary
researchers. The electronic proceedings also fill a gap in the recent
history of the subject, as ECAL'93 was the only conference in either the
ECAL or ALIFE series for which proceedings had not been published.

Thanks to Barry McMullin for allowing me to set the guillotine on his
original hard-copy version of the proceedings for scanning, and to Hugues
Bersini, one of the original ECAL'93 organizing committee, for his
encouragement.

Enjoy!

Tim

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[FRIAM] Suzanne Vilmain on PBS Colores tonight at 9p

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve Smith's better half on TV tonight...

And here's the Youtube version already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnRX5Tz3ZI

Description: Artist Suzanne Vilmain shares how books can be much more than
words.
The book holds the possibility of just about anything. And I've seen books
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[FRIAM] **reminder today** Wedtech Lecture Wed 8/14: Dan Geisler - Road Rash developer to speak 11:30a @ SimTable

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve Smith arranged a nice Wedtech talk with Dan Giesler this week. See
below.

Wed ***11:30a** *at Simtable office. 1600 Lena Street, Suite D1

Bring your own lunch or kick in for some pizza $7


-- Forwarded message --
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Date: Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Subject: [WedTech] Dan Geisler - Road Rash developer to speak 11:30 SimTable

 Folks -

Dan Geisler, former Electronic Arts developer and major contributor to the
Road Rash series of Video Games recently moved to the area and is
interested in meeting the local tech folks.  He's agreed to speak at
WedTech this Wednesday at 11:30, with time to gather afterwards for lunch
and conversation at 2nd St.   Bring your gnarliest bike (Large displacement
Dual Sport Beaters recommended), your weapon of choice (I prefer a Mace)
and your best road armor.  Or just your pocket protector and mobile device.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Rash

He will also talk about his efforts to get a Kickstarter funded update out
there.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/12/road-rash-spiritual-successor-hits-kickstarter

Here is an interview with Dan, if you are more interested.

http://www.racketboy.com/podcast/racketboy-podcast-61-dan-geisler-on-road-rash

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[FRIAM] Wedtech Lecture Wed 8/13: Dan Geisler - Road Rash developer to speak 11:30a @ SimTable

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve Smith arranged a nice Wedtech talk with Dan Giesler this week. See
below.

Wed ***11:30a** *at Simtable office. 1600 Lena Street, Suite D1

Bring your own lunch or kick in for some pizza $7


-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Smith s...@lava3d.com
Date: Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Subject: [WedTech] Dan Geisler - Road Rash developer to speak 11:30 SimTable

 Folks -

Dan Geisler, former Electronic Arts developer and major contributor to the
Road Rash series of Video Games recently moved to the area and is
interested in meeting the local tech folks.  He's agreed to speak at
WedTech this Wednesday at 11:30, with time to gather afterwards for lunch
and conversation at 2nd St.   Bring your gnarliest bike (Large displacement
Dual Sport Beaters recommended), your weapon of choice (I prefer a Mace)
and your best road armor.  Or just your pocket protector and mobile device.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Rash

He will also talk about his efforts to get a Kickstarter funded update out
there.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/12/road-rash-spiritual-successor-hits-kickstarter

Here is an interview with Dan, if you are more interested.

http://www.racketboy.com/podcast/racketboy-podcast-61-dan-geisler-on-road-rash

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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [EXTERNAL]

[Stephen Guerin]

Ray,

Redfish.com is on a shared virtual host on hostgo.com. the Friam mailing
list is run by the python script Mailman (
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/) with mailserver on paris.hostgo.com.

Google shouldn't be in the middle.

Doing a quick spot check of headers going back a year, the spam message
appears to be there. And the spam scores typically are reporting clean
with Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required). So it appears
that the filter is happy.

Why your message is getting garbled, I'm not sure. Perhaps something in the
Sandia Exchange server?

Is anyone else getting garbled messages?

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Parks, Raymond rcpa...@sandia.gov wrote:

  Is anybody else getting these weirdly mangled messages?  A significant
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  I am not sure, but I believe that I am not getting the original message.

  From my reading of the headers, it appears that google gets the mailing
 list message on behalf of friam@redfish.com (I'm assuming the redfish
 hosts their email on gmail).  Google then sends it through
 paris.hostgo.com, which flags the email as possible spam and then sends
 it on to me via Sandia's corporate email.  DNS whitelisting is cited as the
 source for identifying the originating sender as a past spam site.  This
 happens with multiple participants on FRIAM, so I doubt that the actual
 person's address is the problem and dnswl.org confirmed that when I
 looked up Robert's personal domain.  I also checked on redfish.com and
 you-all are not the problem.  The only other domain involved at the point
 where the email passes through hostgo.com is google.com - so I don't
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [EXTERNAL]

[Stephen Guerin]

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:


  Is anyone else getting garbled messages?

  My messages all get garbled.

 When I type them they make perfect sense but when the rest of you read
 them, they seem to be gibberish? Can you explain that?


It could be a temporal asymmetry in the codec.

ie you may have too much time on your hands when compared to the decoders.
;-p

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Re: [FRIAM] wed tech mailing list app

[Stephen Guerin]

Hi Gil,

I processed your subscription request from three days ago. If you have any
changes you can also reach out to Owen Densmore. Are you familiar with him?
:-)

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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Greetings!
 Who do I contact to find the status of my application to be on the wedtech
 mailing list?
 While it might be steve gaurun (sp?)-I'd think with the umpteen simulation
 projects he has going-I'd think some else is just as able to review my
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Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus

[Stephen Guerin]

Roger,

After seeing this, I sent a question to the quoted researcher, Scott
Bachmeier, about his method for calculating plume height. I asked if it was
based on  from a single image using sun angle and shadows, multiple
offset satellite
images or ground triangulation His reply just came in:

  I was using a Cloud Top Height product derived using POES AVHRR data.
Actually, I fear that one of my emails was misquted: I think those numbers
referred to the Silver fire on the following day!

Here's a NOAA page on AVHRR:
  http://www.class.ngdc.noaa.gov/data_available/avhrr/index.htm

I skimmed the page but don't completely grok how height is estimated from
the measurements.

-S


On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 Here's a pyrocumulus over the Silver fire estimated at 6-7 miles (31-37
 thousand feet), though I don't know how he worked out the angles from
 Wisconsin.


 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=81402src=eorss-nh

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Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus

[Stephen Guerin]

 Seems like it should be a standard cell phone camera surveying application
 to compute the angular altitude of an object above the horizon and the
 range of possible linear altitudes given the range of visible distances
 along the azimuth.


Scott is working on this very thing :-) Kind of a photosynth for fires,
plumes and other citizen-observed phenomena.

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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 Searching nasa cloud top height product gets
 http://modis-atmos.gsfc.nasa.gov/MOD06_L2/ and
 http://enso.larc.nasa.gov/calipso_cloudsat/pub/journal/Minnis.etal.GRL.08.pdf 
 which
 suggest that they're reading the temperature of the cloud tops from the IR
 imagery, and that they calibrated a linear fit between temperature and
 altitude cloud top using Lidar data from another satellite.

 Seems like it should be a standard cell phone camera surveying application
 to compute the angular altitude of an object above the horizon and the
 range of possible linear altitudes given the range of visible distances
 along the azimuth.

 -- rec --


 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Stephen Guerin 
 stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote:

 Roger,

 After seeing this, I sent a question to the quoted researcher, Scott
 Bachmeier, about his method for calculating plume height. I asked if it was
 based on  from a single image using sun angle and shadows, multiple
 offset satellite images or ground triangulation His reply just came in:

   I was using a Cloud Top Height product derived using POES AVHRR data.
 Actually, I fear that one of my emails was misquted: I think those numbers
 referred to the Silver fire on the following day!

 Here's a NOAA page on AVHRR:
   http://www.class.ngdc.noaa.gov/data_available/avhrr/index.htm

 I skimmed the page but don't completely grok how height is estimated from
 the measurements.

 -S


 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 Here's a pyrocumulus over the Silver fire estimated at 6-7 miles (31-37
 thousand feet), though I don't know how he worked out the angles from
 Wisconsin.


 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=81402src=eorss-nh

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Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus

[Stephen Guerin]

Marcus may have meant calibrated pinhole instead of fisheye.

This is the approach we're using where we click on points in the photo and
then corresponding points in google earth plugin. With 7 points we then
solve for the pinhole camera parameters. Or, in the case that the image is
from cell phone, we can get the a rough gps location and a focal length
from the EXIF meta data. If a custom app is deployed, the compass and gryo
can be added to custom fields in the EXIF.

To relate two images with corresponding non-planar points, we'll be
calculating the fundamental matrix to help with the 3D geometry. More at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_matrix_(computer_vision)

And better yet, lyrics and video for the Fundamental Matrix song at:
  http://danielwedge.com/fmatrix/


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com
  wrote:

 On 6/17/13 1:48 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

 Seems like it should be a standard cell phone camera surveying
 application to compute the angular altitude of an object above the horizon
 and the range of possible linear altitudes given the range of visible
 distances along the azimuth.

Wouldn't it be necessary in general to do Photosynth and/or have a
 calibrated fisheye lens?

 Why?  Point the camera at the object in question, if you can get an
 accurate pose for the camera plane, then the rest is classical surveying
 geometry and classical optics.  Getting a full panoramic image doesn't
 locate the object of interest any better, just all the objects of
 non-interest.

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Re: [FRIAM] pyrocumulus

[Stephen Guerin]

Looks like Marcus did mean fisheye...cool paper.
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.comwrote:

  On 6/17/13 2:47 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

 Why?  Point the camera at the object in question, if you can get an
 accurate pose for the camera plane, then the rest is classical surveying
 geometry and classical optics.


 Aren't the sensors kind of low resolution and noisy?


 http://hvrl.ics.keio.ac.jp/paper/pdf/international_Conference/2012/IMV2012.pdf


 
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Re: [FRIAM] The fate of published articles, submitted again

[Stephen Guerin]

Yes, but by different authors :-)


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 Interesting, the article was published in 1982.



 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:

 Russ Abbott reposted this on g+, but it's too meritorious not to be
 archived here:


 http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=onlineaid=6577844

 Take published articles by highly respected authors, replace the authors
 and institutions with fakes, resubmit to the same journals that originally
 published the articles, and watch what happens.

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Re: [FRIAM] API alternative?

[Stephen Guerin]

I'm seeing a rise in the use of endpoints. Eg REST, SOAP and WMS endpoints
On May 10, 2013 8:00 AM, Dale Schumacher dale.schumac...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I prefer the term protocol.  It encompasses the medium, the format, the
 expectations/assumptions and the potential dialog among the participants.



 On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote:

 Agreed.  In unix command line pipe terms, the API is the
 goes-into-goes-outof (gozintagozouta) GIGO? for the library.  This is how
 Sun engineers talked with management about new projects and indeed became a
 buzzword.

 TL;DR

 Actually, if you include the unix command arguments, you get a lovely
 example of a Turing model: input, state, output.


-- Owen


 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Arlo Barnes arlo.bar...@gmail.comwrote:

 For either phrase, either assume your audience knows what you are
 talking about or define the terms before you go on. Explain that it is like
 a control panel you can receive data from and send instructions through,
 and being so generally defined does not go into details of implementation.
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Re: [FRIAM] Separate Vacations This Summer

[Stephen Guerin]

Doug,

Your quips will be missed in the interim. Make it a quick one. Get a tan,
have some pina coladas and come back rested and ready.

-S

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:

 Dear FRIAMers (even those of you who are a bit of an asshole now  then)

 I've come to the conclusion that it is best if we take separate vacations
 this summer.  Accordingly, I have adjusted my incoming stream of email to
 skillfully detect any missives that originate from the FRIAM list, and have
 arranged things so that they proceed directly on to the archives without
 dallying around in my inbox.

 Have a great summer V, and we'll pick things up again on the flip side.
  Or not!

 --Doug

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Re: [FRIAM] Presented for FRIAMic Consideration

[Stephen Guerin]

Ok Troll-Boy, I'll bite.

Here's the paper referenced in the phys.org post:
  http://www.alexwg.org/publications/PhysRevLett_110-168702.pdf

Are these concepts so foreign that you hope to watch a thread thrash on the
semantics and meanings of this theoretical worldview? Is there something in
Hewitt's paper that strikes you as ridiculous, hogwosh or complexity babble?

The ideas in the paper restate what is obvious to many of
the practitioners on this list. Namely that structure formation and origin
of life may well be best understood as nature's response to imposed
non-equilibrium gradients. To many this is a core idea of Complexity. This
mechanism has been linked as a causal mechanism for the emergence of
autonomous intelligent emergent behavior since (1980, Kugler, Kelso and
Turvey http://web.haskins.yale.edu/Reprints/HL0297.pdf), (2000
Kauffmanhttp://www.amazon.com/Investigations-Stuart-A-Kauffman/dp/0195121058/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1366685204sr=8-2keywords=investigations),
(2005 Jun and Hubler
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC545530/and 2011 Hubler
et 
alhttp://icmt.illinois.edu/workshops/fluctuations2011/Talks/Hubler_Alfred_ICMT_May_2011.pdf)
and (2007 Morowitz and
Smithhttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cplx.20191/abstract)
among others.

I haven't actually seen the software entropica referenced in the paper
and the claims may be a little over stated but the core ideas you quote
emergence, complex, behaviors, through, causal entropic, and
forces are not new and strike me as matter of fact.

These same ideas have thrashed on the list almost exactly 10 years ago:
  http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.region.new-mexico.santa-fe.friam/256

Doug, where do you think intelligent behavior (ie life) comes from? Do you
have a view?  a pet theory? too busy?

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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:


 http://phys.org/news/2013-04-emergence-complex-behaviors-causal-entropic.html

 It is with much anticipation that we await the detailed discussions that
 are sure to follow which will cover the meanings of emergence, complex,
 behaviors, through, causal entropic, and forces.

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Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?

[Stephen Guerin]

Along the lines that Lee is mentioning with fields being the first
class objects, Bruce Sherwood may be able to illuminate some of the
current thinking in Quantum Field Theory and how interpretations are
made with respect to forces.

Bruce?

-Stephen

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM,  lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
 Russ asks:

 Is there a mechanistic-type explanation for how forces work? For example,
 two electrons repel each other. How does that happen? Other than saying
 that there are force fields that exert forces, how does the electromagnetic
 force accomplish its effects. What is the interface/link/connection between
 the force (field) and the objects on which it acts. Or is all we can say is
 that it just happens: it's a physics primitive?

 I have the impression that the best you can say is that fields act on fields; 
 fields are (the
 only) first-class objects, and what you're calling objects are at best 
 second-class--they
 are epiphenomena of fields (or, of *the* field).

 There is (or was when I last tried to look into this, about 40 years ago) a 
 concept of
 current (which I suppose is a generalization of our familiar electric 
 current, but if so
 is such a generalization that I was unable to see the connection at all) 
 which was in some way
 involved with interactions of fields.  Maybe a Google search on current and 
 Jakiw would turn
 up something useful, but probably not.

 
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Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?

[Stephen Guerin]

Aya, it turns out Bruce recently unsubscribed from FRIAM. I hope you guys
on the list are happy with your signal to noise ratio ;-)Just
kidding...keep it up.

Anyway, Bruce, as I had hoped, had a nice response, albeit offlist. If you
want to respond to this thread, please cc: Bruce. I copy his response below.

//** Bruce Sherwood response offlist
Feynman diagrams give one visualization of forces. In this picture,
consider two electrons moving near each other. With a calculable
probability, one of the electrons may emit a photon, the carrier of the
electromagnetic interaction, and this electron recoils. The other electron
absorbs the photon and recoils. At least for electric repulsion, this is a
nice way to think about the interaction, but it has obvious problems for
talking about attraction. The exchanged photon is a virtual photon which
unlike unbound photons has mass. At the individual interaction vertices
(emission event and absorption event) momentum and energy need not be
conserved, but for the two-electron system momentum and energy are
conserved.

For the strong (nuclear) interaction, the interaction carrier is the gluon.
It is thought that the gravitational interaction is carried by a
gravitron but we have no direct evidence for this.

The weak interaction is mediated by the W and Z bosons and is so similar to
electromagnetism that one speaks of the electroweak interaction. A key
example is neutron decay, and here is the story:

http://matterandinteractions.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/neutron-decay/

Or, if you have an up-to-date browser and a graphics card with GPUs, here
is a central animation from that article:

http://www.glowscript.org/#/user/Bruce_Sherwood/folder/Pub/program/NeutronDecay

On the other hand, the March 2013 issue of the American Journal of Physics
has a very interesting and perhaps important article by Art Hobson on the
modern (last few decades) perspective on quantum mechanics. Maybe this is
familiar to you, but it wasn't to me. The basic idea he reviews is that
everything is fields; there are no particles. Here is what seems to me a
key paragraph in the conclusion:

Thus Schrodinger's Psi(x,t) is a spatially extended field representing the
probability amplitude for an electron (i.e., the electron-positron field)
to interact at x rather than an amplitude for finding, upon measurement, a
particle. In fact, the field Psi(x,t) is the so-called particle. Fields
are all there is.

There is a popular science book by Rodney Brooks on the subject: At
amazon.com search for Fields of Color: The theory that escaped Einstein.
Brooks was a student of Schwinger, a major contributor to quantum field
theory.

Here are related references, dug out by Stephen:

  http://physics.uark.edu/Hobson/pubs/05.03.AJP.pdf
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1204.4616
  http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/henry.hobson.pdf

I've finished the Brooks book. It's not very well written and much of it is
taken up with material that is familiar to physicists (but needs to be
there for the nonphysicist reader). The main message is however very clear.
He feels that it is deeply unfortunate that the quantum field theory (QTF)
developed especially by Schwinger has been way underappreciated by the
physics community in general, and the Feynman emphasis on particles (and
particle exchange) has had unfortunate consequences. He makes a convincing
case that for several decades the big names (Weinberg, Wilczek, etc.) have
all worked within the QTF framework. He stresses that wave-particle duality
is a mistake which unnecessarily makes quantum phenomena more paradoxical
than they need be.

I checked with a powerful theorist colleague at NCSU who agrees with the
basic thrust of these arguments, though he's not comfortable with the
phrasing, There are no particles. He says that all reputable quantum
field theory texts spend a lot of careful time defining what is meant by a
particle in this context.

Bruce

P.S. The Kindle version of the Brooks book had badly mangled format, but a
few days ago Amazon updated my copy so that it now looks good.

**// Bruce Sherwood response offlist

BTW, the book I recommended to Bruce was by Rodney A. Brooks. I was
surprised he was writing on QFT and was excited as I assumed it would have
a lucid explanation as he tends to write well. The book actually isn't as
great as I had hoped. I had assumed it would be the same Rodney Brooks we
know from the Alife/robotics world from MIT. Turns out there's another
Rodney A. Brooks that was in Cambridge, MA with Schwinger who had a career
at NIH and then retired to New Zealand. Oh well.


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Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?

[Stephen Guerin]

Russ,

I think Bruce was using the traditional photon explanation (particles, or
particle/waves as primitives) as a setup to introduce the more novel
approach of treating fields as primitives.

This is more appealing to me and tends to be how we write agent-based
models that scale. In fact, one of my rants is that ABM might be better
named interaction-based modeling as the models tend to focus on the
interactions and not the properties of agents (particles). As one scales up
the populations and interactive forces, we tend to convert the interactions
to local moving fields (eg pheromone fields around ants, quadtrees in
flocking to reduce n^2 interactions to NLogN, etc).

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for all the answers. To answer John's question first, magnetism
 doesn't seem miraculous (it's too familiar), but I can't say I understand
 how it works. It was just that question about magnetism that Feynman was
 asked as the start of the videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM in
 which he danced around the question before saying he couldn't give an
 intuitive answer.

 What would a satisfying answer look like? That's a very good question.
 Superficially it would be something like a sophisticated version of
 billiard balls: when one hits another, energy is transferred. But even that
 doesn't work well when looked at carefully.  What happens in detail when
 one hits another. If the two objects were absolutely solid, how would one
 feel the impact of the other. Would the transfer simply become a
 primitive? If they were somewhat springy, how does that springyness work?
 And besides, there must be some surface-like thing that receives the impact
 and something more internal that absorbs it.

 Bruce's QM photon explanation is pretty close to what I'm looking for, but
 as he notes, it only works for repulsive forces. It also relies on
 primitives. In that case the emission and absorption of a photon and the
 associated transfer of energy seem to be primitive actions.

 The papers by Hobson look very interesting. They even look like I can read
 them.  I haven't done that yet, though.

 As a software person, a good explanation is often something like an API.
 How does one object interact with another? We know that objects have
 capabilities (specified by their APIs), and that it's possible for one
 object to trigger the performance of a capability in another object. We
 don't ask how the triggering event gets from one to the other. That's magic
 at a lower level. We just assume that it can happen and that there isn't
 anything more to say about it at the object level of abstraction.

 So I would be (somewhat) happy with an answer that said (a) what the
 capabilities are (something like a API for elementary particles/fields)
 and (b) what the non-decomposable primitive actions are, e.g., like emit
 and absorb.




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 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, John Kennison jkenni...@clarku.eduwrote:

 Russ,

 Before people knew about magnetism, it must have seemed miraculous that
 two stones would spontaneously start to move toward (or away from) each
 other. Now we can say,  Oh, it's just magnetism. But if we think about
 long enough, we may still wonder how two objects can move toward or away
 from each other. My question would be, Does magnetism still seem a bit
 miraculous, or do you feel your question is answered, at least for
 magnetism? In either case, what would a satisfying answer look like?

 John

 
 From: Friam [friam-boun...@redfish.com] on behalf of Russ Abbott [
 russ.abb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:50 PM
 To: FRIAM
 Subject: [FRIAM] How do forces work?

 Yesterday I asked this question
 http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/61542/how-do-forces-work?noredirect=1#comment123788_61542
 on StackExchange: physics.

 Is there a mechanistic-type explanation for how forces work? For example,
 two electrons repel each other. How does that happen? Other than saying
 that there are force fields that exert forces, how does the electromagnetic
 force accomplish its effects. What is the interface/link/connection between
 the force (field) and the objects on which it acts. Or is all we can say is
 that it just happens: it's a physics primitive?

 So far, there haven't been any answers that feel satisfying--although,
 please look at them yourselves. One of the comments pointed to a 7 1/2
 minute video by Feynman, in which he talks around the 

Re: [FRIAM] digital ethics

[Stephen Guerin]

What about independent researchers not associated with a library
system trying to browse academic papers (funded by taxpayers) held
behind academic journal paywalls for $35/copy?

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Edward Angel an...@cs.unm.edu wrote:
 Owen,

 As you know, I've never had any real objection to  your position and I agree
 as to the lack of a reasonable modern distribution system. I do get upset
 when the conversation approaches the I think the price is too high so I'm
 justified in making an illegal copy.

 Ed
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 On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

 I too have had to build an ethics, so to speak.

 Books: For quite a while, I simply downloaded books to see if I wanted to
 buy them.  I deleted the download and purchased the book if I liked the
 download.  Also download books if I have the paper version.

 EBooks: Similar. Then came the problem of formats.  For example, Amazon only
 provides kindle format (.mobi/.azw) while tech books provide three formats
 (.pdf, .mobi, .epub).  I found myself downloading pdf versions of .azw's
 because the silly books referred to pages.  Hopefully Az will finally come
 around, but until they do, and the book is not available in multiple
 formats, I'll download a pdf if need be.  Almost all tech books are ebooks
 and on my iPad.

 Video: I downloaded old TV shows which were not available otherwise.  Also,
 our net was DSL, so too slow for streaming, even youtube!  With a new faster
 network, cable, we're looking at Amazon primarily, and have Az Prime so many
 videos are available free.  We also have NetFlix streaming but don't seem to
 use it.  We stopped NetFlix DVDs when they hit a 30% failure rate. Not sure
 about Hulu, don't use it now.  We record, TiVo, a LOT of sports and cooking
 shows and re-runs on SciFi channel.

 Papers/Magazines: Thus far I have not payed for NYTimes.  They let me read N
 a month, and I believe allow click-throughs to not count against the N.  But
 I admit to defeating their count by going incognito in Chrome at times,
 maybe once a month.  I've also found that much of their stuff finds itself
 elsewhere.

 I believe a digital library solution would be helpful for paying for a lot
 of media.  I'd gladly pay $D dollars for N subscriptions .. a book shelf
 like OReilly's Safari .. but much broader.

 So I'm sorta in the middle, but mainly due to the media industries not
 catching up.  Between Az Prime and buying ebooks, I'm easily at $250/year
 .. yipes!  My guess is that the big TV companies will try one way or another
 to make older shows available, but I don't think they've done it  yet.  Az
 doesn't offer pdf's yet but I'm sure they'll both improve their page
 references etc, and go multiformat sometime.

-- Owen


 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Edward Angel an...@cs.unm.edu wrote:

 From an author's perspective:

 1. By downloading a pirated copy, you lower the number of books a library
 will purchase which does cost the author.
 2. Having a permanent copy has some value over a library book for many
 people.

 Ed
 __

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 Lab)
 Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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 On Apr 18, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:

 But it sounds like it is out of your price range, at least for now. The
 author (nor the publisher) gets no money from you checking the book out of
 the library, so what are they losing from you pirating the book? Not that I
 am suggesting that is what you should do - it is an individual decision,
 after all - but I always find it interesting what people consider their
 'boundary' and why.
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Re: [FRIAM] 3d projection

[Stephen Guerin]

We have one at the office. Very nice developer kit that even includes node
- websocket - webGL examples.

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:

 This is so very cool!  Has anone used Leap?  Three.js is being used in one
 of the moocs by Ed's friend.

-- Owen


 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM, cody dooderson d00d3r...@gmail.comwrote:

 I rememeber some old arcade video games
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper's_ghostusing a similar setup


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 This is a cool little build, plexiglass prism makes a hologram like
 effect:

 http://vimeo.com/59377788#


 
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Re: [FRIAM] Friam, meet Jeremy Ashkenas

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks, Owen.

Watching his talk in Paris now:
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:

 I know folks have heard all the buzz about JavaScript, but may be confused
 about what's the big deal.  I gave a wedtech on it long ago but it has some
 useful details:
 http://backspaces.net/temp/JSEverywhere.pdf

 This is a pointer to one of the heros of the JSE revolution, Jeremy
 Ashkenas.  He is best known for his work with CoffeeScript, a pythonic
 version of JS that compiles to JS.  He's also championed Literate
 Programming where your code is meant to be read.
 http://ashkenas.com/literate-coffeescript/
 Here's the actual program Journo he's currently blogging with:
 https://github.com/jashkenas/journo/blob/master/README.md
 It's code even tho it looks like a document.  The indented, highlighted
 pieces are Journo's code.  The entire page is parsed by the coffeescript
 compiler and the runnable program produced.

 If you use twitter, look him up, he's worth following.
 https://twitter.com/jashkenas
 .. he's recovering from his intense work via a huge around-the-world trip.
  I believe he wrote Journo just before he left so that he could have a live
 blog of his trip.  You can follow him and his myriad photos at
 http://ashkenas.com

 The point of all this is a new maturity in the computing world that is
 sorta a renaissance.  Simplicity, Art, and directed to a goal.

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[FRIAM] $100 GlowScript Dippy Bird Challenge

[Stephen Guerin]

$100 for the first Glowscripp program (glowscript.org) that implements a
Carnot Cycle and thermodynamically drives Bruce's Dippy Bird program:

http://www.glowscript.org/#/user/Bruce_Sherwood/folder/Pub/program/DrinkingBird/edit

As a winner, beyond the $100, you will receive a Member of the Month
certificate and be garnered with the highest admiration from the online
Friam / Wedtech community.

Bruce may be a contestant

For the theory of the dippy bird:
  http://cnx.org/content/m42235/latest/?collection=col11406/latest

http://www.dingosbreakfastclub.net/DingosBreakfastClub/DippyBird/DrinkingBirdCarnot.html

Ruth Chabay will be the judge on whether a carnot cycle has been
implemented vs. merely animated. If you have questions about the
distinction, please post to the FRIAM or Wedtech list.

Contestants, start your Carnot engines...

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Re: [FRIAM] Key Lime Pie

[Stephen Guerin]

Doug,

Have you tried returning your Nexus 4, asking for your money back and
buying a different phone?

You've exchanged now for 4 phones expecting different results? Doesn't
Einstein have a quote about this?

-S

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 and then (oh the drudgery) pasting this link out of your ascii email client
 and into your thoroughly modern web browser.  Unless of course you use an
 ascii-only web browser as well.

 In which case, never mind.

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