Re: G3 powerbook

2002-04-19 Thread dominic

What I was asking is there are certain desktops, PowerBooks that have
been plagued with problems, so what I wanted to know is if I choose the
g3/300 or the 292 as you mentioned will it be a good stable machine or
are there potential problems that ill have to deal with.
thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Madison heights, mich



-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Laurent
Daudelin
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:16 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: G3 powerbook


On 18/04/02 16:03, dominic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im going to be in the market for a power book shortly, all I want it 
 for is email and chat so im thinking of looking on eBay for a g3/300. 
 any of them I should stay away from? Ill also be using 9.2.2 not 
 planning on using x.

I'm not sure I understand the question when you say any of them I
should stay away from?. There is only one G3/300, that's the Wallstreet
II. You could also maybe consider the G3/292, which is a Wallstreet I. I
would imagine a performance pretty close to the 300.

-Laurent.



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Wallstreet procrssor board failure AGAIN

2002-04-19 Thread patrick fisher



They are dogs, but I like mine. Always in awe of the design.



 The first generation Wallstreet was available with a 12 passive matrix LCD
 with both the cacheless 233, and the 250Mhz model. The units with the 12
 Passive Matrix LCD came with only 2 Meg VRAM. The 13.3 and 14.1 screen
 came with 4 Meg VRAM and were available with all processor speed options.
 Models with the 12 passive matrix screen also lacked an S-Video port.



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: 802.11 card for 3400, 1400

2002-04-19 Thread Bruce Johnson

Gary D. Adams wrote:
 Well, I can tell you the Lucent Turbo Silver Lan card shows up on the desktop
 of my 3400 but is not otherwise detected by the software. I took a chance on
 it. Oh well.

There is also, possibly, a firmware issue on these, for which, alas, you 
need access to a PC with PCMCIA slots.

As soon as I access one, I'll let people here know.



-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Clyde Kahrl

Film is infinitely better and cheaper than digital.
I have done it both ways now, and film is so much cheaper
than digital there is no comparison.Film is also infinitely
superior in quality---by at least 3 orders of magnitude.
As an example, scanning Fuji ASA-800 film on my 2400 * 2400
dpi HP scanner, I am not even close to seeing any grain in the film.
And Fuji 800 is a much faster film than any digital camera--with
regard to any specific contrast and resolution standard.
A scan of a 35mm negative at 2400dpisq (a real 2400 not
virtual 2400) creates a  file roughly in the 40-70 meg range that
would swamp any camera if it had to store it.  A proper 40,000dpisq
scan from say a Nikon coolscan would be Signifiacantly more
troublesome.
Film  has dramatically higher color and contrast depth than
digital pictures.A disposable camera produces much superior
photos to even the most expensive electronic camera---and not merely
because of pixels--but because of resolution and contrast or depth.
You might think that scanning from a print would be better
than scanning from a negative--after all 2400 dpi on a negative gives
a total resolution of only about 3300 by 2200 for the picture,
whereas the print gives a much higher resolution scan.  But it turns
out that the negative has greater depth.   And so I have found
negative scans to be far superior than print scans---even though I
don't have a Nikon Coolscan.  ( I have an HP 5490c scanner---don't
get it--get one compatible with Vuescan software---HP is notorious
for not supporting their hardware with drivers and I am afraid that
this scanner is no exception--the odds of ever seeing an OSX version
of the driver are getting slimmer and slimmer and apparently the
scanner's USB port runs from a parallel to USB converter inside.  So
the scans are great--but  in system 9 only)
For years, film has evolved to en extremely efficient medium.
Everyone knows (or should know) that there is a difference between
Kodachrome and Ectachrome--not to mention KodaColor and Fuji and Agfa
and so forth.   Kodachrome and Ectachrome both give accurate
colors, but those colors feel different and have a different mood.
As another example, print film (eg Kodacolor) has a much
wider exposure range (plus or minus 4 stops) compared to chrome (viz
slide) film.   And chrome is an order of magnitude superior to
digital.
For all practical purposes, electronic photos are useless,
except for use online--where you expect bad quaility and don't have
the bandwidth to show good quality, or for snapshots where you
neither enlarge nor crop.  And if you don't do these things:Why go
digital anyway??
Furthermore, when it comes to taking pictures, the electronic
camera requires a huge supply of rechargeable batteries and there is
always a delay when shooting--so you cannot use electronic cameras to
take any  action shots.   I have tried a couple of cameras and they
all want to do stuff before you shoot--instead of letting you shoot.
Printing photos off the computer and onto a printer is so
difficult and requires so much time, I think I could probably do it
faster in a basement darkroom.  I have spent hours on a single photo.
I just don't have that kind time for any but the special photos.  And
I do take that time for special photos.
I do spend a lot of time on special photos--but now I start
out with film--and then crop.   You can't crop electronic photo's
because by the time you are finished cropping there is no picture
information left for the enlargement.
Finally, be aware that ink jet ink  fades within 4
years--even if the picture is covered in a book.  Epson claims to
have archival quality inks--but I haven't seen any quality reviews
of these.  (even color photo prints fade to black and white over
time---but ink jet prints have no underlying black  white).  (I use
a color laserwriter--but I have no idea how many years these prints
will last.
My 35 mm Nikon FA batteries last 7-8 years-and it will still
operate at -20 below with no batteries at all.  Even with seven or
eight sets of batteries, I cannot take electronic photos in the field
over the course of a day.  For example, no one can take electronic
photos of a soccer game because of the bad lenses, the low
resolution--AND because of the batteries.  I have seen some great big
batteries--but I have not seen any that could stay on-full for 3
hours--even though some video cams do.
With a film camera, you can tell from the mood of the picture
what lens you have used or what film you have used.  I have only
played around with a few digital cameras but my impression is that
although lenses are very critical for 35mm film--Nikor, Canon,
Zeiss lenses offer a superior quality that could be visible to a
soccer mom-- I am not sure how much good a better lens will do for
digital photos because I am not sure the recording medium is there
yet.

Re: G3 powerbook

2002-04-19 Thread Laurent Daudelin

On 19/04/02 03:03, dominic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I was asking is there are certain desktops, PowerBooks that have
 been plagued with problems, so what I wanted to know is if I choose the
 g3/300 or the 292 as you mentioned will it be a good stable machine or
 are there potential problems that ill have to deal with.

The only problems with those are the screen hinges that are flawed and give
up after a few years of use, and the Power Management Unit which seems to go
south very often. I would say that a Wallstreet screen that has over an inch
of looseness when you move it back and forth is probably approaching a
breakout of the hinges. Once one of the hinge breaks, you need to avoid
opening or closing the lid because the broken hinge can damage the flat
display cable, which would make the repair more expensive. PowerBook Parts
http://www.pbparts.com offers nice parts for these problems at good
reasonable prices.

Other than that, they are strongly built laptop. Much more sturdy than the
Pismo line, for instance.

-Laurent.
-- 
=
Laurent Daudelin  Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA
** Usual disclaimers apply **
choke v.: 1. [common] To reject input, often ungracefully. NULs make System
V's lpr(1) choke. I tried building an EMACS binary to use X, but cpp(1)
choked on all those #defines. See barf, gag, vi. 2. [MIT] More generally,
to fail at any endeavor, but with some flair or bravado; the popular
definition is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

These are not inexpensive digital cameras that we are talking about now! An
inexpensive 35mm film camera (less that $100) will outshoot any inexpensive
digital camera (less than $300) out there when it comes to photographic
sharpness.

Having used the D1X (5.33 Megapixel) and an EOS-1D (4.06 Megapixel), I can
say that they are both great digital cameras, but with digital limitations
as well as digital advantages. Their limitations are the pixels that the
camera is able to record on its CCD and most important to me, the lag time
involved between the highest quality images. They are great for giving
instant feedback on your photograph and they do a respectable job of
delivering a quality product on a professional level.

With that said, both my Hasselblad 501 and my Pentax 67 will shoot rings
around both of those cameras when it comes to photographic sharpness and the
ability to do enlargements.

Tom

 
 How do you feel about the Nikon D1X?
 


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread patrick fisher

I find film to be one of the largest nuisances of the 20th and 21st centuries.
It's a pain to use film and film companies have nothing but themselves to blame
for not making developing easier. They should have contrived some contraption to
take your film (easy-load, which finally has made an appearance), stick it in,
and inexpensively shoot out pictures. And wire the pictures to your computer for
digital storage on a CD. If that was available, I'd stick with film.

I do love film, much richer colors and depth, but it is too expensive, in the
long run, and just one huge hassle. In this case, I will take convenience and
price over quality and hassle. Unfortunately. However I lament.

P-


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Bruce Johnson

Thomas Ethen wrote:
 These are not inexpensive digital cameras that we are talking about now! An
 inexpensive 35mm film camera (less that $100) will outshoot any inexpensive
 digital camera (less than $300) out there when it comes to photographic
 sharpness.
 
 Having used the D1X (5.33 Megapixel) and an EOS-1D (4.06 Megapixel), I can
 say that they are both great digital cameras, but with digital limitations
 as well as digital advantages. Their limitations are the pixels that the
 camera is able to record on its CCD and most important to me, the lag time
 involved between the highest quality images. They are great for giving
 instant feedback on your photograph and they do a respectable job of
 delivering a quality product on a professional level.
 
 With that said, both my Hasselblad 501 and my Pentax 67 will shoot rings
 around both of those cameras when it comes to photographic sharpness and the
 ability to do enlargements.

They also sell really high res digital backs for those...and the cameras 
are *cheap* compared to those ;-)

Yes, you're right, a cheap 35mm camera will outperform most digital 
cameras on the market today, even high-end ones.

A $300 Canon EOS SLR will outperform them all, no doubt.

But that's a far, far cry from saying digital cameras are 'useless', 
which the previous poster said.

I'd guess that digital cameras are still 3-5 years from surpassing film 
in performance (and I'm an optimist, it could be longer). There are some 
serious developments occurring in both CCD and CMOS imaging 
technologies, such as Foveron's multilayer sensor:

http://www.foveon.net/X3_tech.html
-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: G3 powerbook

2002-04-19 Thread dominic

Thanks Laurent,
 this is the kind of stuff I need to know

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Madison heights, mich



-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Laurent
Daudelin
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:36 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: G3 powerbook


On 19/04/02 03:03, dominic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I was asking is there are certain desktops, PowerBooks that have 
 been plagued with problems, so what I wanted to know is if I choose 
 the g3/300 or the 292 as you mentioned will it be a good stable 
 machine or are there potential problems that ill have to deal with.

The only problems with those are the screen hinges that are flawed and
give up after a few years of use, and the Power Management Unit which
seems to go south very often. I would say that a Wallstreet screen that
has over an inch of looseness when you move it back and forth is
probably approaching a breakout of the hinges. Once one of the hinge
breaks, you need to avoid opening or closing the lid because the broken
hinge can damage the flat display cable, which would make the repair
more expensive. PowerBook Parts http://www.pbparts.com offers nice
parts for these problems at good reasonable prices.

Other than that, they are strongly built laptop. Much more sturdy than
the Pismo line, for instance.

-Laurent.
-- 



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

Don't forget the archival quality of film over digital!
Tom
 
 I do love film, much richer colors and depth, but it is too expensive, in the
 long run, and just one huge hassle. In this case, I will take convenience and
 price over quality and hassle. Unfortunately. However I lament.
 
 P-
 


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

Actually I love both digital and film and use both on a daily basis! I am
still unsure as to what will be done for storage when the digital camera
catches up with film, since the files will be incredibly large.
Tom
 
 I'd guess that digital cameras are still 3-5 years from surpassing film
 in performance (and I'm an optimist, it could be longer). There are some
 serious developments occurring in both CCD and CMOS imaging
 technologies, such as Foveron's multilayer sensor:
 
 http://www.foveon.net/X3_tech.html


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Bruce Johnson

Thomas Ethen wrote:
 Actually I love both digital and film and use both on a daily basis! I am
 still unsure as to what will be done for storage when the digital camera
 catches up with film, since the files will be incredibly large.
 Tom

Austin PowersPsychedelic Holocubes, baybee!/ap

Seriously, this is one of the most promising uses of holographic data 
storage, and working 3D storage units do exist in pre-production labs.

http://www.sciam.com/2000/0500issue/0500toigbox5.html

http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20010423S0113

http://sci.newsfactor.com/perl/story/17174.html

Note they're looking at quite high speed writing and reading of these 
things, and the write-once nature of the closest to commercial 
application (the last of the three cites above) is more advantage than 
impediment to the market (the film companies would LOVE to sell you an 
endless supply of holocubes instead of film...)

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: 802.11 card for 3400, 1400

2002-04-19 Thread Gary D. Adams

Thanks, Bruce. I could get access to a PC with a PCMCIA slot. That would be no
problem. I don't want to mess with it, though, if it's hopeless.

Gary

Bruce Johnson wrote:

 Gary D. Adams wrote:
  Well, I can tell you the Lucent Turbo Silver Lan card shows up on the desktop
  of my 3400 but is not otherwise detected by the software. I took a chance on
  it. Oh well.

 There is also, possibly, a firmware issue on these, for which, alas, you
 need access to a PC with PCMCIA slots.

 As soon as I access one, I'll let people here know.




-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Aron Nelson

Of all the good points you brought up, this one is the killer for me.

I was TOTALLY into my digital camera until I recently went to a party 
and I wanted to take pictures FAST.

NO WAY! I got one shot off and had to wait while the damn thing took 
its time getting ready for the next shot. Not only that, the flash 
takes a while to charge up too.

That alone is painful.

Aron


there is always a delay when shooting--so you cannot use electronic 
cameras to take any  action shots.   I have tried a couple of 
cameras and they all want to do stuff before you shoot--instead of 
letting you shoot.


-- 

---
Aron Nelson
Audio Bytes Corporation
1050 Queen Street #300
Honolulu, HI 96814
808-589-2727
FAX:808-589-2626


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Dick Grable

My Olympus 2100 can take up to 2 pictures a second when not using the flash.
My previous film camera was no faster with or without the flash. We simply
got tired of the shoe boxes full of prints. Have been using digital for two
years and would have an additional 50+ sets of prints for the shoe box. I
will agree that a digital camera has some quirks but overall is a nice
replacement for the home film camera.

 I was TOTALLY into my digital camera until I recently went to a party
 and I wanted to take pictures FAST.
 
 NO WAY! I got one shot off and had to wait while the damn thing took
 its time getting ready for the next shot. Not only that, the flash
 takes a while to charge up too.
 
 there is always a delay when shooting--so you cannot use electronic
 cameras to take any  action shots.   I have tried a couple of
 cameras and they all want to do stuff before you shoot--instead of
 letting you shoot.



-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread Aron Nelson

That is not a basic problem of digital cameras. That is a basic problem of
the model you have.

Apparently most/all Digital cameras have lag time after the shot. I 
have tried many at CompUSA and Circuit City and they all had lag 
after shooting.

The lag times are even parts of the review process on web sites now.

Do you have one that doesn't have any lag after shooting?

Aron
-- 

---
Aron Nelson
Audio Bytes Corporation
1050 Queen Street #300
Honolulu, HI 96814
808-589-2727
FAX:808-589-2626


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Gene Merritt

Speaking of expensive (:--)), has anyone tried, or seen (in person)
the new Sony DSC-F707? It received some good reviews (speed-wise) 
on the dpreview.com site.

I have a house full of old 35mm Nikons from my old news photog days. Now have a 
disability and am researching a move to digital. Want higher quality. That Sony seems 
nice.

Gene


--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Difficulty in setting up intranet

2002-04-19 Thread Douglas Taylor


I'm trying to get my iMac (rev. D) and my iBook (Indigo) to make a small
TCP/IP intranet.  I've configured each of them to do TCP/IP via ethernet,
given them IPs and set the subnets.

The iBook (OS 9.1) does okay, but the iMac (OS 8.6) won't cooperate.  System
Profiler shows that TCP/IP is active on both computers, but only the iBook
shows an IP address and netmask.

I'd be grateful for advice on this,

Doug


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Difficulty in setting up intranet

2002-04-19 Thread Jeremy Derr

On Friday, April 19, 2002, at 07:39  PM, Douglas Taylor wrote:

 I'm trying to get my iMac (rev. D) and my iBook (Indigo) to make a small
 TCP/IP intranet.  I've configured each of them to do TCP/IP via 
 ethernet,
 given them IPs and set the subnets.

 The iBook (OS 9.1) does okay, but the iMac (OS 8.6) won't cooperate.  
 System
 Profiler shows that TCP/IP is active on both computers, but only the 
 iBook
 shows an IP address and netmask.

 I'd be grateful for advice on this,

Without more information, trying to answer this would be shooting in the 
dark.

How are you configuring TCP/IP on each machine? DHCP? Manual? If Manual, 
what IP Address, Subnet Mask, and Router address? How can tell that the 
iBook does OK? What is it you're trying to do on this network; 
filesharing? internet connection sharing? something else all together?


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




OT topic of film vs. digital

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas England

Recognizing that this is not a suitable topic for this list, I still must
comment on the view expressed earlier (I'm on Digest) concerning film being
preferable to digital for photography today.

I have been a working photojournalist for over 30 years and since the advent
of the Nikon D1x I think digital quality has surpassed film. The images are
better, the prints are better and the ease of use is better in a million
ways.

I still shoot both ways out there in the real world, but I cringe and moan
when the client insists on film.

The suggestion that digital cameras are only worthwhile for online use is so
absurd. What cameras do you think are being used for the photos you see in
TIME, NEWSWEEK  countless other publications?

Digital images were placed on the sides of tall buildings (the kind Superman
used to leap) at the Salt Lake Olympics.

Oh, and Canon cameras are good too.
-- 
Thomas S. England
Decatur GA 30030


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

Hang on to that shoe box of prints and negatives, since they will still be
usable when the digital prints are long gone. My film camera shoots 5 frames
per second, but its biggest plus compared to digital is that it turns on
instantly for photo's that show up unexpectedly, unlike all digital cameras.
Tom

on 4/19/02 6:33 PM, Dick Grable at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Olympus 2100 can take up to 2 pictures a second when not using the flash.
 My previous film camera was no faster with or without the flash. We simply
 got tired of the shoe boxes full of prints.


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

Most digital cameras have a continuous shoot mode which allows you to shoot
a number of shots fairly quickly (until your buffer runs out) and then they
usually take around 7 to 10 seconds to recover and be able to do this again.
The smaller the file size the more shots that can be taken in rapid
succession, while the larger the size the less shots that can be taken. In
single shot mode, all digital cameras have some lag time between shots and
they all take from 5 to 8 seconds to start up after being turned off.
Tom
 
 Do you have one that doesn't have any lag after shooting?
 
 Aron


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Vic Viet Duong


Sony offers the DSC-S75, a 4 MP camera with a black body. It's pretty slick.
Almost got one myself, but opted for the Canon s110 Elf. I love how small
the camera is, and take it with me everywhere.

All of Sony's camera are great. The biggest advantages of the designs come
from their experiences with the digital camcorder line. Most higher end Sony
cameras now have Ziess lens. I would also highly recommend any Sony.

The best thing I love about digital cameras is the ability to share images.
My wedding photo was shot digitally and was shared among all our guests
instantly across the country over the net. Then we mailed each guest a CD of
the full 500+ images of our wedding for 33 cents per disk. That is not
possible with regular film.

Vic

 
 In a message dated 4/19/02 8:16:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Speaking of expensive (:--)), has anyone tried, or seen (in person)
 the new Sony DSC-F707? It received some good reviews (speed-wise)
 on the dpreview.com site. 
 
 I purchased a Sony DSC-S70 about a year ago, a 3.34MP camera with a Zeiss
 lens. I use it professionally in my marketing/advertising business, and have
 been VASTLY satisfied with both the quality of the photos and the versatility
 of the camera itself. I recently photographed about 300 pieces of Middle
 Eastern antiquities using the macro mode and was amazed at the clarity of the
 images using only natural light in the room... extreme detail, very sharp.
 
 Yes, there IS a lag, esp. depending on the resolution of the image/size of
 the file being stored; but I no longer have drawers of photos/negatives I
 have to go through... I have the images all stored on disk, ready to use
 without scanning.
 
 I'd recommend my Sony camera without hesitation, but I don't think they're
 making that particular model any longer... perhaps the new models have the
 Zeiss lens?
 
 RLM


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: OT topic of film vs. digital

2002-04-19 Thread Vic Viet Duong

 I still shoot both ways out there in the real world, but I cringe and moan
 when the client insists on film.

Interesting comment, my wife and I didn't even consider any photographer
that refused to shoot digitally for our wedding. I read something the other
day that a lot more couples are insisting digital photographers for their
wedding. 

vic


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

Kodak offers a photo CD with every roll of film you have processed by them
if you want it.
Tom

 My wedding photo was shot digitally and was shared among all our guests
 instantly across the country over the net. Then we mailed each guest a CD of
 the full 500+ images of our wedding for 33 cents per disk. That is not
 possible with regular film.
 
 Vic


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread RLMcKee


In a message dated 4/20/02 12:29:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kodak offers a photo CD with every roll of film you have processed by them
if you want it. 

I hope Kodak has upgraded that service in the last year or so... I had 
clients bring me their disk from Kodak expecting the scans to be good... they 
were sorely disappointed in the quality.

RLM

-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera/Lag time

2002-04-19 Thread aron nelson

Most digital cameras have a continuous shoot mode which allows you to shoot
a number of shots fairly quickly (until your buffer runs out)

Right, I have this, but this is a compromise.

Anyway, back to Powerbooks!

Aron
-- 


Aron Nelson - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keyboards, Computers, Pianist, Guitar
My Stompbox Page: http://surf.to/stompbox, http://firebottle.net/stompbox


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Good, inexpensive digital camera

2002-04-19 Thread Thomas Ethen

On to another topic!

Would I be better off using a remote FireWire HD or using the one in my
Pismo/400 for digital capture? If a remote, should I use the FireWire port
or a PC Card adapter for FireWire for the fastest transfer?

Tom


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler 
  CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com.

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com