Re: Pricing Advice
On 6/5/03 7:20 AM, Jon Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/4/03 7:29 PM, Robert Benjamin Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also consider saving the web page from that site to my personal hard drive. There was a similar page up on a German site for a while, once they got enough hits, they took it off and now charge you $9.95 to download the take apart plans. I can't post the link for that site because I think they also offer technical manuals. Is the the web site? http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum7.html Yes it is! Thanks Jon, I appreciate it. And I got to say I really like this mailing list. The time I spend reading it is more than made up for by the time I save looking for answers on the Net. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up
Scott Howe writes: --- Peter Graening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This 1Ghz TiBook may be obsolete come July 14, but at least it will last me as long as my Pismo, I hope. Did I miss something? Whats happening July 14? Scott Macworld CreativePro Conference. Something is bound to happen, right? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up
Ahh! Gotcha. I've just been hearing so many different rumors I wasn't sure if something concrete was floating around in this discussion! Thanks! Scott --- Peter Graening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Howe writes: --- Peter Graening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This 1Ghz TiBook may be obsolete come July 14, but at least it will last me as long as my Pismo, I hope. Did I miss something? Whats happening July 14? Scott Macworld CreativePro Conference. Something is bound to happen, right? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Powerbook Wallstreet II motherboard swap
Quick and (I'm sure) easy question: can I swap a Pismo motherboard into my PB G3 II case, and have it work? I have a 14.1 TFT screen, if that matters. Thanks! Brian Deuel -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerbook Wallstreet II motherboard swap
on 05/06/03 20:25, Brian Deuel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick and (I'm sure) easy question: can I swap a Pismo motherboard into my PB G3 II case, and have it work? I have a 14.1 TFT screen, if that matters. Thanks! Brian Deuel No, I don't think so. There are way too many components that are not the same. For one thing, even though your screen is the same size than the one on a Pismo, I believe that the video cable between the screen and the mobo is not the same. Same goes for the PC card cage, which is a double one on the Wallstreet, but a single slot on the Pismo. The keyboard also has a different cable to plug it on the motherboard. Sorry... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] choke v.: 1. [common] To reject input, often ungracefully. NULs make System V's lpr(1) choke. I tried building an EMACS binary to use X, but cpp(1) choked on all those #defines. See barf, gag, vi. 2. [MIT] More generally, to fail at any endeavor, but with some flair or bravado; the popular definition is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerbook Wallstreet II motherboard swap
I figured as much. I tried to find some info about this swap, but couldn't dig up anything. I guess this would explain why :) Thanks. Brian *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/5/2003 at 9:31 PM Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 05/06/03 20:25, Brian Deuel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick and (I'm sure) easy question: can I swap a Pismo motherboard into my PB G3 II case, and have it work? I have a 14.1 TFT screen, if that matters. Thanks! Brian Deuel No, I don't think so. There are way too many components that are not the same. For one thing, even though your screen is the same size than the one on a Pismo, I believe that the video cable between the screen and the mobo is not the same. Same goes for the PC card cage, which is a double one on the Wallstreet, but a single slot on the Pismo. The keyboard also has a different cable to plug it on the motherboard. Sorry... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelin http://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] choke v.: 1. [common] To reject input, often ungracefully. NULs make System V's lpr(1) choke. I tried building an EMACS binary to use X, but cpp(1) choked on all those #defines. See barf, gag, vi. 2. [MIT] More generally, to fail at any endeavor, but with some flair or bravado; the popular definition is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- In my CD player- America- Greatest Hits -- Webmaster The World Of Owen Rubin http://www.orubin.com Brian's Coinop History Archive http://bb.vg-network.com Nickname: Atari EFnet IRC #rgvac- see our ugly mugs at http://www.jrok.com/rgvac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
PowerBook 12 Battery
Hi All- I just wanted to update those who helped me with my battery issues on my new 12 PB. I DID return it but not to Apple, to Microcenter where I purchased it. They exchanged it with no questions asked. That is Microcenter's policy but I wonder what would of happened if I had sent it back to Apple? Would it have been so painless?? Just a thought... Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerBook 12 Battery
Apple seem to be very polar. I've had cases where I've been on the phone less than 10 minutes, have had a full apology, replacements sent out (and sometimes a complimentary gift), with boxes for sending the offending component back. Other times I've had the dreaded It is not a problem, that is normal or the even worse It falls within the computers specification. It all depends who you talk to I suppose. Matt On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 11:00 am, Scott Howe wrote: Hi All- I just wanted to update those who helped me with my battery issues on my new 12 PB. I DID return it but not to Apple, to Microcenter where I purchased it. They exchanged it with no questions asked. That is Microcenter's policy but I wonder what would of happened if I had sent it back to Apple? Would it have been so painless?? Just a thought... Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
12 Speed
This has probably already been a topic on here so apologies if this is redundancy in action for you all but I was wondering what thoughts owners of the 12 have concerning it's speed. I have maxed out the RAM in mine and while I'm not DISpleased on it's speed, it's a wee bit slower than I was anticipating. Anyone else have an issue/concern and/or thought about this? Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
Same thoughts here, and we're not alone, many people on both MacRumors.com and Apple's own discussion boards have commented on this. Unfortunately putting it on Apple's boards got me a threatening email saying if I did it again my ISP would be informed and my IP blocked from registering or posting again. Everyone seems to agree it is a collection of issues, which could be solved by: - Firmware update (to solve the dreadfully slow booting) - Graphics drivers (current implementation is very, very poor) - OS Updates (the cynic in me says Apple will put this into 10.3, as an incentive, imagine a post on Apple's discussion boards saying I just installed 10.3 on my 12/15/17 PB and WOW! I never knew the machine could go that fast, every-thing's snappy, my frame-rates in games have improved no end etc etc) I suppose all you can do for now is ensure you have the latest updates from Apple (10.2.6, Bluetooth update, CD firmware update, iMovie 3.0.3, iSync 1.1, Quicktime 6.3 etc etc) Matt On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 12:25 pm, Scott Howe wrote: This has probably already been a topic on here so apologies if this is redundancy in action for you all but I was wondering what thoughts owners of the 12 have concerning it's speed. I have maxed out the RAM in mine and while I'm not DISpleased on it's speed, it's a wee bit slower than I was anticipating. Anyone else have an issue/concern and/or thought about this? Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Drive Issues
Jason Long wrote: This was all greatly complicated by problems with WD's documentation on the placement of the jumpers. The documents said to use a jumper to set it as master, but the handy little diagram on the drive itself said to leave off all jumpers for master. That's correct, if you have that WD 120 gig HD (BTW do you have the one with 2 or 8MB cache?) you have to yank every jumper on it and use it jumperfree, that's what I heard a while ago on another list when some one used it in a G4, I have saved those emails at home if you're interested, because I have that HD, but not in my Mac, but in my PC, but want to use it in my Mac later on when I've got a PCI ATA controller. HTH, Marc * * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
--- Matt Peacock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately putting it on Apple's boards got me a threatening email saying if I did it again my ISP would be informed and my IP blocked from registering or posting again. A threatening email??? That is absolutely ridiculous! Who was it from exactly? Thats censorship for crissakes! We are only free to discuss the PowerBooks' STRENGTHS and NOT it's weaknesses? What is this? Russia circa 1948?? I would seriously like to know who wrote it (what department, or how it was signed)so I can put in some sort of complaint. Not that I think it would do anything but just on principle. Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed and Stalinist tendencies
Here here! Add me to the list of awkward sods prepared to complain at corporations no matter how nice their products. I have a Pismo OS9 so that probably counts as very unreconstructed and unmodernised... TONY COULT -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Fwd: Second Warning
Here it is. It refers to a discussion which I started, and actively participated in. One of the posters stated he had posted many times about this before, and had all his posts deleted and similar emails. They deleted the discussion (and its spin-off), and sent this. Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon May 19, 2003 9:43:43 pm Europe/London To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Second Warning Matt Peacock, A number of your recent posts to the Apple Discussion Forums have been inappropriate. You have been notified regarding the proper use of the forum, but you continue to violate the Terms and Conditions for Public Posting on the Apple Support Discussions Forum, as outlined in the Help link at the top of each Forum page. This mail is notification that if you continue to violate the Terms and Conditions of these Forums, Apple will disable your posting privileges for a period of time. If you create new Apple ID(s), such ID(s) will be disabled without warning. The IP address(es) which you post from may be blocked, and your ISP may be notified. Apple Discussions Staff ++ This message is sent from a send-only email account. Any replies sent to this address are deleted automatically by the system -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
Forgot to say, Apparently people who complained about the MDD fan noise and the Airport dying problem got exactly the same treatment. Matt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
I initially found it a bit disturbing hearing that Apple would not permit unhindered discussion of their products. However, on reflection, the list belongs to Apple. Imagine a bulletin board inside an Apple store where consumers can post messages. Why should Apple (as a huge profitable powerful corporation) allow any discussion to appear on that bulletin board that didn't enhance their image and contribute to their bottom line? This is definitely not Russia 1948! In the former USSR a capitalist firm such as Apple would not be permitted to exist, not permitted to innovate, not permitted to compete nor would individuals be permitted any opportunity to criticize an industry. For crying out loud you are complaining about a corporations right to manage its image. You don't like it tough. Start your own company. Your freedom of speech has not be infringed by an agency of the United States government. Cries of censorship are out of line. You are absolutely free to discuss/praise/criticize Apple, Microsoft, Ford Motor Company and Joe's Carryout Store on your own list. Or this list. Or your very own newspaper or e'zine. Why do you want to abridge Apple's freedom to operate their business as they see fit? Your right to free speech and assembly is guaranteed by the United States Consitution not Apples papers of incorporation. Look, I love my Mac but I have no illusions about Apple as a corporation. They want to make a profit, as big a profit as possible. Good for them. I wish them all the success in the world. Caveat emptor. At 10:53 AM -0400 6/6/03, G-Books wrote: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 12 Speed In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Matt Peacock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately putting it on Apple's boards got me a threatening email saying if I did it again my ISP would be informed and my IP blocked from registering or posting again. A threatening email??? That is absolutely ridiculous! Who was it from exactly? Thats censorship for crissakes! We are only free to discuss the PowerBooks' STRENGTHS and NOT it's weaknesses? What is this? Russia circa 1948?? I would seriously like to know who wrote it (what department, or how it was signed)so I can put in some sort of complaint. Not that I think it would do anything but just on principle. Scott The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. --Mark Twain -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
--- Dennis Reeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I initially found it a bit disturbing hearing that Apple would not permit unhindered discussion of their products. However, on reflection, the list belongs to Apple. Imagine a bulletin board inside an Apple store where consumers can post messages. Why should Apple (as a huge profitable powerful corporation) allow any discussion to appear on that bulletin board that didn't enhance their image and contribute to their bottom line? This is definitely not Russia 1948! In the former USSR a capitalist firm such as Apple would not be permitted to exist, not permitted to innovate, not permitted to compete nor would individuals be permitted any opportunity to criticize an industry. For crying out loud you are complaining about a corporations right to manage its image. You don't like it tough. Start your own company. Your freedom of speech has not be infringed by an agency of the United States government. Cries of censorship are out of line. You are absolutely free to discuss/praise/criticize Apple, Microsoft, Ford Motor Company and Joe's Carryout Store on your own list. Or this list. Or your very own newspaper or e'zine. Why do you want to abridge Apple's freedom to operate their business as they see fit? Your right to free speech and assembly is guaranteed by the United States Consitution not Apples papers of incorporation. Look, I love my Mac but I have no illusions about Apple as a corporation. They want to make a profit, as big a profit as possible. Good for them. I wish them all the success in the world. Caveat emptor. Ill tell you why I have a right to complain. Because I bought one of Apples products and as a consumer of a huge, profitable, powerful CAPITALIST corporation's (in your own words) product, consumers like me call the shots, not the corporations themselves. A products quality makes or breaks a company, not the companies rules and regulations concerning the ability to discuss it or not. In this particular case, I believe a discussion about the speed of a product that I paid $1799.00 for is a valid point to share with other consumers who may or may not be researching the strengths/weaknesses of a particular product. Someone coming to Apple's CONSUMER based discussion board would assume that it's a forum for users of that product to discuss not only the pros of a particular product, but also consumers TRUE experiences in the real world. Apple saying that that is not an acceptable topic is censorship in my opinion and I stick by that. But you're entitled to your opinion also. Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
As one of the list nanny on this specific mailing list, I would ask everybody to leave this thread and move on. There isn't anything specifically helpful for G3-G4 based PowerBooks in this thread, so let's go back to helpful topics. Thank you. -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
The threatening email was really not that threatening at all, they simply asked you to cease and desist posting of your what I can only imagine were negative emails on their company discussion boards. Apple has not said they are going to come break down your doors and haul you off to jail, they simply stated you would be barred from posting for a period of time on THEIR servers. I thought that the email was fairly professional. They have not barred you from posting emails on other lists (although I am sure those lists also have rules). Your point about the product may be right on, however your cries of censorship I believe are a bit off. The rules of those boards are very clear for anyone who wants to post. I completely agree with Mr Reeder. Todd On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 09:26 AM, Dennis Reeder wrote: I initially found it a bit disturbing hearing that Apple would not permit unhindered discussion of their products. However, on reflection, the list belongs to Apple. Imagine a bulletin board inside an Apple store where consumers can post messages. Why should Apple (as a huge profitable powerful corporation) allow any discussion to appear on that bulletin board that didn't enhance their image and contribute to their bottom line? This is definitely not Russia 1948! In the former USSR a capitalist firm such as Apple would not be permitted to exist, not permitted to innovate, not permitted to compete nor would individuals be permitted any opportunity to criticize an industry. For crying out loud you are complaining about a corporations right to manage its image. You don't like it tough. Start your own company. Your freedom of speech has not be infringed by an agency of the United States government. Cries of censorship are out of line. You are absolutely free to discuss/praise/criticize Apple, Microsoft, Ford Motor Company and Joe's Carryout Store on your own list. Or this list. Or your very own newspaper or e'zine. Why do you want to abridge Apple's freedom to operate their business as they see fit? Your right to free speech and assembly is guaranteed by the United States Consitution not Apples papers of incorporation. Look, I love my Mac but I have no illusions about Apple as a corporation. They want to make a profit, as big a profit as possible. Good for them. I wish them all the success in the world. Caveat emptor. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed and Stalinist tendencies (OT)
Scott Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A threatening email??? That is absolutely ridiculous! Who was it from exactly? Thats censorship for crissakes! We are only free to discuss the PowerBooks' STRENGTHS and NOT it's weaknesses? What is this? Russia circa 1948?? I would seriously like to know who wrote it (what department, or how it was signed)so I can put in some sort of complaint. Not that I think it would do anything but just on principle. The Apple Discussion Forum belongs to Apple and they've chosen to make it publicly available. However, in so doing, Apple isn't obligated to air the rantings and accusations of every malcontented or malicious poster. You don't even have to be an Apple customer or to use Apple products to post there--anyone could register an account and start flaming Apple (and then their post(s) and account(s) will be deleted). Even when the posters and problems are authentic, I can understand Apple not wanting to air too much of their dirty laundry in public. I don't necessary agree with their approach of restricting such discussions, but I can sort of understand their thinking and they certainly have the right to do it. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerBook 12 Battery
My experience with Apple has been very very good. The time from the call to Apple, receiving the shipping box and then receiving the goods is usually 3 days max. The rule of thumb here is Never take No for an answer less than three times. Just like the 411 information operator, if a customer service rep doesn't give you what you want, call back a short while later and talk to another customer service rep. In my experience, it works a very high percentage of the time. Bruce on 6/6/03 3:42 AM, Matt Peacock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple seem to be very polar. I've had cases where I've been on the phone less than 10 minutes, have had a full apology, replacements sent out (and sometimes a complimentary gift), with boxes for sending the offending component back. Other times I've had the dreaded It is not a problem, that is normal or the even worse It falls within the computers specification. It all depends who you talk to I suppose. Matt On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 11:00 am, Scott Howe wrote: Hi All- I just wanted to update those who helped me with my battery issues on my new 12 PB. I DID return it but not to Apple, to Microcenter where I purchased it. They exchanged it with no questions asked. That is Microcenter's policy but I wonder what would of happened if I had sent it back to Apple? Would it have been so painless?? Just a thought... Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed and Stalinist tendencies (OT)
On 06/06/03 13:12, Jeff Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A threatening email??? That is absolutely ridiculous! Who was it from exactly? Thats censorship for crissakes! We are only free to discuss the PowerBooks' STRENGTHS and NOT it's weaknesses? What is this? Russia circa 1948?? I would seriously like to know who wrote it (what department, or how it was signed)so I can put in some sort of complaint. Not that I think it would do anything but just on principle. The Apple Discussion Forum belongs to Apple and they've chosen to make it publicly available. However, in so doing, Apple isn't obligated to air the rantings and accusations of every malcontented or malicious poster. You don't even have to be an Apple customer or to use Apple products to post there--anyone could register an account and start flaming Apple (and then their post(s) and account(s) will be deleted). Even when the posters and problems are authentic, I can understand Apple not wanting to air too much of their dirty laundry in public. I don't necessary agree with their approach of restricting such discussions, but I can sort of understand their thinking and they certainly have the right to do it. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, please, refrain to reply to this thread anymore. If you want to continue the discussion, please take it off-list. -Laurent, list nanny on G-Books list. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
Considering you did not read the post Todd, I find it very hard to accept what you have just said. I did not cry about censorship, I merely stated the fact that when I posted about the problem it was deleted and I was sent the posted email. You have taken my comments out of context and exaggerated them. I completely understand the need for Apple to preserve a company image, and I have no intention of running them down, on the contrary I sing their praises every opportunity I get. The rules are clear, being a member, and moderator, of many forums, I know what is and is not acceptable for discussion. I did not start a complaint, I was completely professional in asking for people's opinions on the speed, how to improve it, and was it possibly just my machine with a fault. The fact that Apple got very defensive about this is out of my hands, however not listening to the consumers is a self-defeating prophecy, once again I draw your attention to the MDD fans and the Airport deaths. Apple clearly states the discussion boards are there for users to post their problems, they have become a massive part of customer support. After paying $1800 for this machine, and approximately $10,000 in the last two years on Apple hardware and software, and being repeatedly told about the forums, I did not see an issue in posting an OBSERVATION. Finally apologies to the list nanny, while typing this I received the request to cease discussion. I understand this has now gone off-topic, but my original reply to Scott's message was completely on topic, and I do not appreciate having judgments made abut me from that reply. Matt On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 06:08 pm, Todd Ruch wrote: The threatening email was really not that threatening at all, they simply asked you to cease and desist posting of your what I can only imagine were negative emails on their company discussion boards. Apple has not said they are going to come break down your doors and haul you off to jail, they simply stated you would be barred from posting for a period of time on THEIR servers. I thought that the email was fairly professional. They have not barred you from posting emails on other lists (although I am sure those lists also have rules). Your point about the product may be right on, however your cries of censorship I believe are a bit off. The rules of those boards are very clear for anyone who wants to post. I completely agree with Mr Reeder. Todd On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 09:26 AM, Dennis Reeder wrote: I initially found it a bit disturbing hearing that Apple would not permit unhindered discussion of their products. However, on reflection, the list belongs to Apple. Imagine a bulletin board inside an Apple store where consumers can post messages. Why should Apple (as a huge profitable powerful corporation) allow any discussion to appear on that bulletin board that didn't enhance their image and contribute to their bottom line? This is definitely not Russia 1948! In the former USSR a capitalist firm such as Apple would not be permitted to exist, not permitted to innovate, not permitted to compete nor would individuals be permitted any opportunity to criticize an industry. For crying out loud you are complaining about a corporations right to manage its image. You don't like it tough. Start your own company. Your freedom of speech has not be infringed by an agency of the United States government. Cries of censorship are out of line. You are absolutely free to discuss/praise/criticize Apple, Microsoft, Ford Motor Company and Joe's Carryout Store on your own list. Or this list. Or your very own newspaper or e'zine. Why do you want to abridge Apple's freedom to operate their business as they see fit? Your right to free speech and assembly is guaranteed by the United States Consitution not Apples papers of incorporation. Look, I love my Mac but I have no illusions about Apple as a corporation. They want to make a profit, as big a profit as possible. Good for them. I wish them all the success in the world. Caveat emptor. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/
My apologies:
To Laurent and anyone, Matt included, who I may have offended or inconvenienced with my posts. I was only commenting on something that I perceived as personally repugnant. I was wrong to share my views in this public forum. Regards, Scott Howe __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iTunes importing
Well, it depends on your headphones! Good headphones are *very* revealing -- even high quality MP3s can sound terrible. If even high quality imports sound bad you might want to make sure that the headphones are actually as good as you say..It might be them thats making all your imports sound terrible n -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed
My apologies. Premature send. On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 12:07 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: As one of the list nanny on this specific mailing list, I would ask everybody to leave this thread and move on. There isn't anything specifically helpful for G3-G4 based PowerBooks in this thread, so let's go back to helpful topics. Thank you. -Laurent. Phil Burk ___ Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. Indianapolis, IN 317-572-3049 Phil Burk ___ Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. Indianapolis, IN 317-572-3049 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 12 Speed and Stalinist tendencies (OT)
Well said Jeff. David The Apple Discussion Forum belongs to Apple and they've chosen to make it publicly available. However, in so doing, Apple isn't obligated to air the rantings and accusations of every malcontented or malicious poster. You don't even have to be an Apple customer or to use Apple products to post there--anyone could register an account and start flaming Apple (and then their post(s) and account(s) will be deleted). Even when the posters and problems are authentic, I can understand Apple not wanting to air too much of their dirty laundry in public. I don't necessary agree with their approach of restricting such discussions, but I can sort of understand their thinking and they certainly have the right to do it. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Thread
Agreed. - Original Message - From: Scott Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Thread I totally respect everyone's opinion here and elsewhere but I think some of you (no names) are taking this a wee bit far. To compare a complaint about the way a company manages it's public image with walking into a bank screaming I want to kill someone is ludicrous at best. I think we all should just drop it. Scott __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Thread
At 13:52 -0700 6/6/03, Scott Howe wrote: I totally respect everyone's opinion here and elsewhere but I think some of you (no names) are taking this a wee bit far. To compare a complaint about the way a company manages it's public image with walking into a bank screaming I want to kill someone is ludicrous at best. I think we all should just drop it. I was making a point that there are unwritten rules to things. -- Ryan Coleman System Administrator LEMLists.com Get your email account at lemlists.com for $6/year! Visit http://www.lemlists.com/ for more information LEMLists.com is a CobWeb Publishing website. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Thread
Ok... This is getting stupid. Apple does not owe anyone free speech on their boards. deal with it. -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:56 PM To: G-Books Subject: Re: Thread At 13:52 -0700 6/6/03, Scott Howe wrote: I totally respect everyone's opinion here and elsewhere but I think some of you (no names) are taking this a wee bit far. To compare a complaint about the way a company manages it's public image with walking into a bank screaming I want to kill someone is ludicrous at best. I think we all should just drop it. I was making a point that there are unwritten rules to things. -- Ryan Coleman System Administrator LEMLists.com Get your email account at lemlists.com for $6/year! Visit http://www.lemlists.com/ for more information LEMLists.com is a CobWeb Publishing website. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
ebook-reader?
Can someone direct me to a ebook-reader for .lit-files. I've found Palmreader (for macs) but I can't open any .lit-files with it. Thanx marc -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Thread
This thread has nothing to do with G3/G4-based PowerBooks. Please, stay on topic. This is the last warning. -Laurent, list nanny. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ebook-reader?
Marc wrote: Can someone direct me to a ebook-reader for .lit-files. I've found Palmreader (for macs) but I can't open any .lit-files with it. That's because .lit files are Microsoft's Own Proprietary E-book Crap, usable only on Windoze and PocketPeecees. Don't buy them. If you want to dance with the DMCA you could try this: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php3 on an OSX box. It extracts the original XML/HTML out of the .lit files. From thence it ought to be simple to convert them to something you could put on your Palm pilot, should you desire. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
iTunes Importing
I find it interesting that there are complaints about MP3 Quality. I remember when CDs first came out. They were really really awful. Portions of some recordings sounded like fingernails on chalkboards to me. This is because taking good music and converting it to digital seriously degrades the recording--particularly when you only sample at 44khz. Also your machine then has to recreate a sound based upon that code and so the music creation algorithm in your player is critical. Over time, these have improved but modern CDs are still not comparable to the output of modest hi-fi equipment from the late 70s. Some MP3s really stink because of the really awful encoding out there. I have never encoded using iTunes, so I don't know if it is reasonably good or not at encoding. I would think you would want variable bit rate and so forth--and I'm not sure it has that. And I don't know how to control the dynamic range. I suspect it's a lot like digital photography. Every time you go through some digital conversion process you lose a whole bunch of information/data/whatever. Maybe if you went direct from mike to MP3 you would have less of a problem than going from CD to MP3. But when you say that MP3s are bad, I can't help but suggest that CDs are bad, so what do you want? -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iTunes Importing
Just encode at the highest rates, if you must use mp3, otherwise, use aac at the highest rates. -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clyde Kahrl Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:06 PM To: G-Books Subject: iTunes Importing I find it interesting that there are complaints about MP3 Quality. I remember when CDs first came out. They were really really awful. Portions of some recordings sounded like fingernails on chalkboards to me. This is because taking good music and converting it to digital seriously degrades the recording--particularly when you only sample at 44khz. Also your machine then has to recreate a sound based upon that code and so the music creation algorithm in your player is critical. Over time, these have improved but modern CDs are still not comparable to the output of modest hi-fi equipment from the late 70s. Some MP3s really stink because of the really awful encoding out there. I have never encoded using iTunes, so I don't know if it is reasonably good or not at encoding. I would think you would want variable bit rate and so forth--and I'm not sure it has that. And I don't know how to control the dynamic range. I suspect it's a lot like digital photography. Every time you go through some digital conversion process you lose a whole bunch of information/data/whatever. Maybe if you went direct from mike to MP3 you would have less of a problem than going from CD to MP3. But when you say that MP3s are bad, I can't help but suggest that CDs are bad, so what do you want? -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iTunes Importing
On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 06:05 PM, Clyde Kahrl wrote: Some MP3s really stink because of the really awful encoding out there. I have never encoded using iTunes, so I don't know if it is reasonably good or not at encoding. I would think you would want variable bit rate and so forth--and I'm not sure it has that. And I don't know how to control the dynamic range. The real key is what kind of equipment you listen to the MP3s or AAC files with. Cheap headphones plugged right in to your computer or iPod (including the iPod's own earbuds) are not going to reveal too much of the loss incurred in the process, especially with AAC files. If you get nicer headphones, and use high-quality headphone stereo amplification, you will definitely begin to notice the lossy file formats compared to original sources. Still, 192kbps AAC files seem to be right up there near source-quality, as are LAME alt-preset MP3s. I agree about the early CDs. The first CD masters were often made right off the old LPs, instead of off the original tapes! Led Zeppelin IV is a prime example -- the first issue of this CD sounds absolutely terrible. As with all music, you just have to look around for what works best on the equipment you have. --Chris -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Thread
The other nanny here asked you guys to knock it off, and I am seconding his demand. Take this offlist or be prepared to be censored by someone in control of *this* list. Thanks Kyle H. Hansen G-Books List Nanny -- Jesus Saves...but Gretzky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Interesting TiBook problems
Sounds like your inverter or motherboard is just about toast.. Better get it looked at by an Apple Certified tech... Does anyone else have these problems? Sounds flickers in and out, random display cutouts resulting in going to sleep for a few seconds, coming back, and going to sleep again. Only way to fix this is to reboot. I just want to know if anyone else has had this kind of problem and what the fix is. My TiBook is well out of warranty and I am not up to putting a lot of money into her. TIA, Ryan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
S-Video out on Wallstreet under OS X
Does anyone know how to get S-video output on a Wallstreet under OS X (10.2.6 to be specific). I've tried waking from sleep and booting with the S-Video connection (actually a composite monitor and the WS S-video adapter). When booted in OS 9.2.2 it works fine. Under X there is no sign of it in the Displays preferences nor any mention I can find in Help. Is it just the case that OS X doesn't support external video on a Wallstreet? -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PDF files
What program will allow me to edit PDF files, or so I have to edit the original and then convert it to PDF each time? Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PDF files
At 22:13 -0500 6/6/03, Thomas Ethen wrote: What program will allow me to edit PDF files, or so I have to edit the original and then convert it to PDF each time? I don't know of any free or low cost, but Acrobat will do it just fine (not Acrobat Reader) and Photoshop 7 will also allow you to edit single paged files IIRC but niether of these programs are free (Photoshop 7 is $400-600 and Acrobat is $500 I believe). -- Ryan Coleman System Administrator LEMLists.com Get your email account at lemlists.com for $6/year! Visit http://www.lemlists.com/ for more information LEMLists.com is a CobWeb Publishing website. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Got my Lombard 400 Mhz, need IR port cover and floppy drive
Glad tidings! I just got a 400 Mhz Lombard with DVD yet. I needed the sellers guidance but I found the Apple DVD player and was able to see a little of a Bond DVD. Now to hunt up a S-video cable and see what it looks like on the larger screen. The DVD drive is a Matshita DVD-ROM SR-8171 rev 080E , is this the troublesome one? I have noticed that sometimes it won't recognize a CD or DVD. It also seems to start up periodically and move the heads. Is it supposed to be doing this? It's got 128 MB RAM, I'm thinking it would be worth upping that for OS 9.2, how much makes sense? Any preferred vendors? I need to get a expansion bay floppy, is the VST superdisk the best option? I'm also moving up the the keyprints on the screen problem, I can't see them when the screen is on, should I worry about them? Are they going to get worse? Lastly this machine came without the rubber feet and the IR port window. Any tips on sources? I've located a bottom case on E-bay that I could get the parts off, we'll see how cheap it goes. Thanks to all for sage advice... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? NOTE: new local address is andrewaa(at)comcast.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PDF files
My Reply follows quote. On 06/06/2003 21:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryan Coleman) At 22:13 -0500 6/6/03, Thomas Ethen wrote: What program will allow me to edit PDF files, or so I have to edit the original and then convert it to PDF each time? I don't know of any free or low cost, but Acrobat will do it just fine (not Acrobat Reader) and Photoshop 7 will also allow you to edit single paged files IIRC but niether of these programs are free (Photoshop 7 is $400-600 and Acrobat is $500 I believe). --- Even if you are fortunate enough to own Acrobat or Acrobat Exchange, a .pdf file may be protected by the originator so that it cannot be altered. A password can be set when the file is originated. Ken Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
