date:20030715

on 7/15/03 10:16 AM, Tom Meade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No one should expect Ebay to "make" a market in goods where
> robust markets already exist. In the case of current models,
> web and brick retailers do that. What common sense support
> can there be to expect a significant discount from the
> existing markets when distribution is robust? "Scooping
> up?" Lacking this support, proceed with great caution.
> I sold three Duos, 2300 and 2400, because it was the logical
> market after Duo distribution faded away. Likewise it makes
> sense to consider a recent PB at a price that passes the smell
> test - just look at the deal from all points of view, and -
> good luck!
> Tom Meade
> 

I think I like this post, but can you break it down a bit?  Think 12th grade
English, just for kicks...


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Re: Buying a new PowerBook

on 7/15/03 9:09 AM, James Rohde at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 07/15/2003 2:45 AM, Illovox Media apparently wrote:
> 
>> on 7/14/03 9:47 PM, James Rohde at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.insanely-great.com/features/020215.html
>> 
>> 
>> link is dead
> 
> They apparently changed the name slightly - try this link:
> 
> http://www.insanelygreatmac.com/features/020215.html
> 
> BTW, when I first went to their site, I got an error message of the "Site
> not known" kind, but when I clicked on the OK button, the page still
> loaded. Weird... But I was able to get to the page in a second or so.
> 
> Jim Rohde
> 

Loaded now.  Thanks


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Re: eBay

> > expensive shipping (meaning it's really expensive for me
> 
> Not much more expensive than in-Europe shipping. 

What difference does that make to me? I'm in the United States. Intra-US
shipping is cheap and, by and large, reliable. USPS is inexpensive, VERY
reliable and has never damaged or lost a parcel I've sent. UPS is more
expensive, but it's worth it because (a) I'm not paying, (b) they pick
up from my door, and (c) special services are easily added with a simple
click on the right box in the shipping page.

> > extra expense and hassle in collecting money, ...
> 
> Paypal couldn't be simpler.

But many European buyers choose not to use it. From experience, they
prefer wire transfers to bank accounts, Western Union moneygrams, &c. Or
at least the ones who contact me do.

Look, it's a question of how much trouble I'm willing to take to get a
few extra bidding dollars. My time is valuable, my patience for dealing
with officals and paperwork and physically toting junk around town to
dropoff locations is VERY limited. When I put something for sale on
ebay, I go in with no expectations; it gets bid up to whatever it's
going to get bid up to, I ship it, and that's that. I could care less
that I might get an extra 1% on the price by expanding my sales range to
 Upper Congo; the hassle of finding fresh banana leaves to wrap it in
and whatever other hoops the carrier makes me jump through make it not
worthwhile.

The only reason I sold some vintage equipment to overseas buyers is
because I wanted it to go to a truly good home.

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Re: Re.: eBay PowerBooks

on 7/15/03 8:51 AM, macnifico at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So, yes, they do investigate, although they are so swamped with work
> that most of the time they are unable to write back.

Investigations "swamped with work..."  That says it all.

R


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Re: eBay

2003-07-15 Thread Dan K

Michel Treisman wrote:
> I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti 
> powerbook, never saw the goods and lost all my money.  Am I 
> responsible for not knowing how things worked, or the website 
> for not warning me?

then Steve Kidd wrote:
>I know it sounds cruel, but to a large degree, yes, you are 
>responsible. Ebay, as with any sort of used marketplace, is "buyer 
>beware." It's up to you to do the research, to figure out how the game 
>is played and to accept that there are only two people involved in the 
>transaction - you and the scammer.
>
>Ebay has nothing to do with it, other than to provide a forum. They do 
>provide tools and information to reduce your chances of getting 
>scammed, but ultimately, they are not responsible.
>
>BTW, I'm not talking from any "holier than thou" viewpoint. I've been 
>scammed myself. Lost $3000, not on Ebay, but in my very own home. 
>Nothing at fault but my eagerness to buy and a shady satellite salesman.

In the used-stuff trading world, including classified newspaper ads, flea 
markets, used-computer stores, back-of-the-truck bargain sellers, etc., 
eBay has an enormous advantage. It is as transparent and open a market as 
exists _anywhere_!

Is eBay perfect? Of course not, but I defy anyone to identify a market 
with the reach and size of eBay with anywhere near the amount of 
information available about prospective trading partners.

Eh?

Steve points out he got scammed right at home. It happens on eBay, it 
happens on any street corner, it happens at your front door, it happens 
at your club or your church. eBay is only one of many places where the 
stupidly greedy will be separated from their money.

And another thing . . . Steve underlines my second point, scammers take 
advantage of folks who want something for less than it _should_ cost. You 
have to be pretty freshly-hatched to think a stranger is going to _give_ 
you a PowerBook Ti (or satellite!) for a bargain price. I rather think of 
those who repond to such scams as following one of the universe's natural 
laws, like natural selection or something. Anyone so dumbly greedy to 
fall for such a scam is deservedly out their money. 

Heh heh, I just realized I've described myself related to my most recent 
eBay 'bad experience'. I purchased a pair of Matsushita UJDA730 combo 
drives (for Pismo, BTW) for a _very_ cheap price, knowing full well as I 
sent the dude the cash it was likely too good to be true. And of course 
it was too good to be true, the drives were merely CD readers worth 
perhaps 1/4 of what I paid. Oh-what-a-dumbass-am-I . . .

So who is to blame when newbies rush to buy and then get burned? I 
started shopping flea markets 20 years ago, my first purchases were 
frequently not wisely chosen, I paid too much, I bought junk instead of 
not-junk, but I learned. Was the market's owner responsible for my newbie 
mistakes? I say not.

Dan K

dankephoto on eBay, BTW

.
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hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500
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Re: eBay

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 19:31, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:
> > > exception if a Canadian bidder asks me to. I almost never allow Western
> > > European bidders, and I never allow Far East destinations. For a few
> > 
> > What is the reason you don't sell to Europe?
> 
> Long distance, 

Distance doesn't really matter (unless you have to walk)

> expensive shipping (meaning it's really expensive for me
> if there's some problem/error where I have to make good to the buyer),

Not much more expensive than in-Europe shipping. 

> extra expense and hassle in collecting money, ...

Paypal couldn't be simpler.

Joaquim


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Re: Ebay Powerbooks

2003-07-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

Joaquim Carvalho wrote:

I did find half a dozen or so that seemed suspicious, but as someone 
pointed out, requesting escrow is a sure way to weed out someone who 
doesn't intend to send you the product.


Many honest sellers do not accept Escrow.
Too bad, those are honest sellers I won't deal with. I'd rather it be 
their loss than mine. Caveat Emptor.

ALMOST ALL GOOD DEALS for NEWER Powerbooks are scams. The ones that are
not have prices close to the ones you find in a retail shop.
These are not 'good' deals...they're 'unbelievable' deals.

'Too good to be true' deals.

'Good deals' are a refurbished iBook at Smalldog for $200 less than 
retail, or a 1-year old powerbook sold for $350 less by a now-starving 
recent graduate.

Good deals are not a 17" powerbook for $2000...

Like any con since the time Ogg was conned out of extra rocks by Igg the 
con-caveman, the inherent greed of the mark is their downfall and the 
con-man's profit.

Just think.

People are successfully selling powerbooks at or near retail 
prices...why would this person wish to sell to you at such an enormous 
discount?

If these were legitimate sales, this person could ask, for example, 
$2800 or $3000 for a new 17" Powerbook instead of $2000 and make nearly 
$1000 more!

No, the point of these people asking such a low price is to engage your 
greed to the detriment of your brain, to satisfy that ages-old human 
impulse to get something for nothing, to get 'lucky' for once.

To produce that flood of adrenaline we get when we think we're going to 
get such a good deal that we're blinded and don't look at it rationally.

Like, you know, maybe *this time* that gentleman in Nigeria really does 
have $48 million in his bank he wishes to move discreetly out of the 
country.

(I have read accounts of people who got swindled in these Nigerian scams 
where they actually say "I knew these were a scam, but it was such a lot 
of money, I was willing to take a chance on it being real this time."

'Take a chance'...think about it, as if it were a gamble they could win.)

It's the same ingrained instinct that produces gambling as a universal 
feature in human cultures...we all do it, and until it's not ingrained 
anymore, con artists will flourish.

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Re: eBay

> > exception if a Canadian bidder asks me to. I almost never allow Western
> > European bidders, and I never allow Far East destinations. For a few
> 
> What is the reason you don't sell to Europe?

Long distance, expensive shipping (meaning it's really expensive for me
if there's some problem/error where I have to make good to the buyer),
extra expense and hassle in collecting money, ...

Canada is relatively easy.

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Re: eBay

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 17:13, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:
> > days if it's Fedex or UPS.  S people who say "no foreign bids" or "no
> > shipping to Canada" are really shooting themselves in the foot...excluding
> 
> I almost always specify "US bidders only" but I almost always make an
> exception if a Canadian bidder asks me to. I almost never allow Western
> European bidders, and I never allow Far East destinations. For a few
> rare-ish collectible computers, I've sold to Italy, the UK, Germany...

What is the reason you don't sell to Europe?
Joaquim


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Re: eBay (another positive review)

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 16:17, David Taylor wrote:

> The only other significant thing that I have learned is not to sell to 
> anyone outside the USA.
Is this list US specific?
Joaquim


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Re: Ebay Powerbooks

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 13:59, Steve Kidd wrote:

> But with all this chatter about how most of the Powerbooks on Ebay are 
> scams, I decided to take a look for myself. After reviewing more than 
> 100 Powerbook listings, I've found four that were obvious scams.

The real problem are the non obvious ones...

> I did find half a dozen or so that seemed suspicious, but as someone 
> pointed out, requesting escrow is a sure way to weed out someone who 
> doesn't intend to send you the product.

Many honest sellers do not accept Escrow.

>  I, for one, don't have any 
> problems with paying escrow fees when I'm sending $2,000 to someone I 
> don't know in a foreign country (That would be the US for me).

Same for me.

> But by and large, the vast majority were people who seemed to be making 
> honest transactions. One guy even suggested that you drop by to pick up 
> the machine, if you felt unsure.
>  The really sad thing that I did notice 
> though, was people bidding up the price on auctions so high that they 
> might as well buy at a retail used/refurbished store. Foolish.

I'll be more precise then:

ALMOST ALL GOOD DEALS for NEWER Powerbooks are scams. The ones that are
not have prices close to the ones you find in a retail shop.

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Re: eBay (another positive review)

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Kidd

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 09:13 AM, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:

The reason I dislike Canadian sales is the extra paperwork. I don't 
even
know how to generate the right paperwork to send things UPS, so I 
always
have to use USPS to send these items.
Hopefully you shouldn't have to fill out any extra paperwork other than 
the customs declaration, at least that's all I have to do when shipping 
south.

But I have to tell you, I always ask shippers to send via USPS, or at 
least FedEx, rather than UPS. There's a couple of reasons - One is that 
UPS Service can be incredibly poor in Canada, they job it out to an 
assortment of small couriers, and try to refuse to do customer service 
once it leaves their direct hands. Often the packages arrive in poor 
condition.

The second reason is the cost. UPS charges up to a $40 USD brokerage 
fee to the receiver. They tell you this is for customs handling, but a 
little investigation reveals that all such fees were dropped with Free 
Trade, except by UPS. FedEx charges about $20 CDN, and just calls it a 
handling fee. But the Postal Service only charges $5!

I usually refuse to do business with anyone who insists on UPS myself, 
because I have had so many bad experiences with them.



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Re: Ebay deals-Save your own life

> No one should expect Ebay to "make" a market in goods where
> robust markets already exist. In the case of current models,

However it provides a convenient portal for small businesses. In that
sense it is "making" an online market for small vendors who would
otherwise only have their bricks'n'mortar operation.

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Ebay deals-Save your own life

2003-07-15 Thread Tom Meade

No one should expect Ebay to "make" a market in goods where
robust markets already exist. In the case of current models,
web and brick retailers do that. What common sense support
can there be to expect a significant discount from the
existing markets when distribution is robust? "Scooping
up?" Lacking this support, proceed with great caution. 
I sold three Duos, 2300 and 2400, because it was the logical 
market after Duo distribution faded away. Likewise it makes
sense to consider a recent PB at a price that passes the smell
test - just look at the deal from all points of view, and - 
good luck!
Tom Meade


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Re: eBay (another positive review)

> days if it's Fedex or UPS.  S people who say "no foreign bids" or "no
> shipping to Canada" are really shooting themselves in the foot...excluding

I almost always specify "US bidders only" but I almost always make an
exception if a Canadian bidder asks me to. I almost never allow Western
European bidders, and I never allow Far East destinations. For a few
rare-ish collectible computers, I've sold to Italy, the UK, Germany...

The reason I dislike Canadian sales is the extra paperwork. I don't even
know how to generate the right paperwork to send things UPS, so I always
have to use USPS to send these items. That means a trip on foot to the
post office, rather than having the UPS guy simply pick up my parcel
from where I work. Annoyance.

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Re. : eBay PowerBooks

2003-07-15 Thread macnifico

==0

The really sad thing that I did notice 
though, was people bidding up the price on auctions so high that they 
might as well buy at a retail used/refurbished store. Foolish.

Cheers - Steve K

===0

Steve:

Some of us live where there are no Apple Stores, no Macs at all, in fact.
So "retail used/refurbished" is a reasonable price to pay when you are 
in Wintel territory, as I am.
But the Mac OS is so easy to use, that I've been able to sell dozens of 
Mac PB's easily, and made a few MacAddicts along the way.
Best regards.
Hugo Diaz
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Living in Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico.

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Re: Buying a new PowerBook

2003-07-15 Thread James Rohde

On 07/15/2003 2:45 AM, Illovox Media apparently wrote:

>on 7/14/03 9:47 PM, James Rohde at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> http://www.insanely-great.com/features/020215.html
>
>
>link is dead

They apparently changed the name slightly - try this link:

http://www.insanelygreatmac.com/features/020215.html

BTW, when I first went to their site, I got an error message of the "Site 
not known" kind, but when I clicked on the OK button, the page still 
loaded. Weird... But I was able to get to the page in a second or so.

Jim Rohde

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Re.: eBay PowerBooks

2003-07-15 Thread macnifico

==0

I contacted ebay fraud office and told them about these scams but they have
done nothing. Best of luck.
Chris

==0

Recently I got one of those scam e-mails.

Dear sir, i saw that you bidd on Apple iBook 900MHz and i want to offer you the same one for a lower price of 580$.Check my feedback for seriosity (id: ladxxx).If you are interesed mail me on [EMAIL PROTECTED](Names changed to protect the innocent)

I reported it to eBay after checking that the "seller" had a great
record of selling dolls and "bric-a-brac", low-cost items, and finding
the spelling was like a 14 year old using big words, or a foreigner that
doesn't write English very well. (This was for an Apple 900MHZ PB).
Although eBay clearly states that the investigations are confidential
and you may not receive any more e-mails from them,

eBay's SafeHarbor Department usually reviews all reports of spam within
24 hours. Please keep in mind that the action taken based on your report
is confidential. For privacy reasons, we will not be able to keep you
informed of any developments; however, we pledge to quickly examine your
report and apply our guidelines fairly.

in this particular case I received this e-mail, which I quote:

Hello,

The recent email sent from this account was the result of an
unauthorized account takeover. The password was guessed or discovered
and then used to send email like the message you received.
Unfortunately, we were not made aware of this activity until after the
email had been sent. We are now in the process of getting the account
restored to its true owner.

Let me suggest a few ways this takeover could have occurred.

First, if the user had a relatively simple password or password hint

So, yes, they do investigate, although they are so swamped with work
that most of the time they are unable to write back.

As I said before, being a member since '96, and having successfully
completed more than a 900 transactions, I have found that the Mac crowd
there is like the Mac crowd here: Honest and helpful. Of course,
whenever an item goes above $400, I insist in an escrow service, and I
have been following Chris tips for years.

Best regards.
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Re: eBay

2003-07-15 Thread Michelle Klein-Hass

On Tuesday 15 July 2003 03:42 am, Illovox Media wrote:

> Man are you presumptuous.  I have, and they do nothing.  Did nothing when
> even my EBAY ID was hijacked.  Had to find their telephone number (try that
> Mr. Know It All) and finally with enough yelling they did something about
> that.  IE, they did not refuse or agree, they just did nothing--until
> pressure was placed.  I find that interesting to share here when the topic
> of EBAY safety concerning G-Books has *already* been raised.  And I am not
> coming "here" complain and get results, I am responding to a previous post
> I DISAGREE with.  READ THE THREAD.  What are you, the EBAY apologists
> police? EBAY has problems.  When they cross over to G-Books, it's a valid
> topic here.
>
> I've used EBAY longer than you have, and EBAY is far from perfect.  It
> excuses itself as a venue only, but provides a venue that allows crooks to
> flourish.  That is MY opinion, and I care to post it here.

The irony of all this is that I willingly (although reluctantly) gave up my 
eBay account and my PayPal account because eBay will give anyone who 
represents themselves as a Law Enforcement officer extensive information on 
user accounts. All you need is a fax machine and faked letterhead to make it 
seem like you are faxing your request from a Police or Sheriff's Department. 

My reason for leaving eBay is because I didn't want to risk my identity to 
thieves who might use this willingness to share information with those who 
represent themselves as cops. When identity theft and fraud are felonies, you 
think that a criminal will go "oh, impersonating a police officer is a 
misdemeanor, I'd better not do that."

Perhaps if you had faxed your request for information on that fraudster on 
official-looking Police or Sheriff's Department letterhead, you might have 
had better luck in getting eBay to sit up and take notice.

eBay alternatives include Yahoo Auctions and Amazon Auctions/zShops.

Here are pertinent Slashdot discussions about the situation:

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/20/1347252&mode=nested&tid=158
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/11/1523238&mode=nested&tid=158
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/01/1447232&mode=nested&tid=158&tid=99

eBay: where the bad guys win and good guys are guilty until proven innocent.

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Re: ebay

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan Lee

Whenever I purchase an "expensive" item on Ebay I ask if I can use a postal
money order. If they refuse to take it, I take my purchase elsewhere.

If you pay with a postal money order and get scammed, it becomes a federal
offense and the United States Postal Inspection Service then becomes
involved. Luckily, it has never come to that for me. I purchased my Pismo
this way 2 years ago.


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Re: eBay (another positive review)

2003-07-15 Thread Nick

on 7/15/03 11:17 AM, David Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can echo the same experience with dozens of happy purchases and sales
> of fairly major technology items.
> 
> The important thing is the obvious one: in 99% of cases if the deal
> sounds too good to be true, it is.  To counter that I wrongly started
> an auction on a Tuesday a couple of months back.  The item eventually
> attracted only 3 bids and I ended up selling $2,000 of hardware for
> $1,200 to an *extremely* happy buyer.  Tip: always aim to close
> auctions on Saturday or Sunday.  There are simply more people around to
> buy!
> 
> The only other significant thing that I have learned is not to sell to
> anyone outside the USA.  Sorry Canadians, it is nothing personal.
> Blame our respective  governments and postal services, who seem to be
> in existence merely to cancel all possible commercial activity.
> 
> David

You must be the exception...I've bought stuff on eBay from the US and have
always received my items 5 days after the seller has received paymentand
I'm in Canada.  Takes about 5 days to get stuff from the US using he USPS, 2
days if it's Fedex or UPS.  S people who say "no foreign bids" or "no
shipping to Canada" are really shooting themselves in the foot...excluding
30 million potential customers...

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Re: eBay (another positive review)

2003-07-15 Thread David Taylor

I can echo the same experience with dozens of happy purchases and sales 
of fairly major technology items.

The important thing is the obvious one: in 99% of cases if the deal 
sounds too good to be true, it is.  To counter that I wrongly started 
an auction on a Tuesday a couple of months back.  The item eventually 
attracted only 3 bids and I ended up selling $2,000 of hardware for 
$1,200 to an *extremely* happy buyer.  Tip: always aim to close 
auctions on Saturday or Sunday.  There are simply more people around to 
buy!

The only other significant thing that I have learned is not to sell to 
anyone outside the USA.  Sorry Canadians, it is nothing personal.  
Blame our respective  governments and postal services, who seem to be 
in existence merely to cancel all possible commercial activity.

David

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Jim Katz wrote:

Put me in on the positive side for eBay.

In several thousand transactions now as seller and buyer, my wife 
and I
have had no seller frauds and about 5-10% non-paying bidders. (That 
doesn't
wind up being a big problem - eBay will pay back selling fees they 
charged
if the buyer defaults, and if act they will pay up to $500 to cover 
your own
loss if a seller defrauds you. Read the services material and use it.)

The only big problem I've run into is the darn post office.  Too 
often
things take up to three months (!) in the mail, and they won't even 
take a
search inquiry on regular mail until six weeks have passed.  (This is
Canadian Post Office and shipment to the US). They are good at smashing
stuff as well.

I think everyone's suggestions are great for minimizing the risks, 
but
don't jump to conclusions about fraud when the Post Office turns out 
to be
the real baddy often enough.  (They don't call it the P.O. for 
nothing.)

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eBay

2003-07-15 Thread Michel Treisman




> Steve says, and eBay claims that they have no responsibility for allowing scams
> to take place on
> their website.  But I would argue that they do have a responsibility, for two
> reasons:
>
> 1) they provide misleading information  -  They  have slogans dotted around where
> they will be seen frequently saying "Why eBay is safe" and "Bid with confidence".
>
> 2) They do not provide bidders with all their information on scams and how to
> recognise them as a matter of course.
>
> The effect is that lots of newbies will form the impression that everything is
> under control. And for some items that is not the case. Any day I look at the
> Powerbood list I can find 3 or 4 auctions that are likely scams. So they are
> encouraging false confidence, and for that Ebay is to blame.
>
> Mike
>
> ==
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:09:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: ebay
> From: Steve Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 03:25 AM, Michel Treisman wrote:
>
> > I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti
> > powerbook, never saw the goods
> > and lost all my money.  Am I responsible for not knowing how things
> > worked, or the website for not warning me?
>
> I know it sounds cruel, but to a large degree, yes, you are
> responsible. Ebay, as with any sort of used marketplace, is "buyer
> beware." It's up to you to do the research, to figure out how the game
> is played and to accept that there are only two people involved in the
> transaction - you and the scammer.
>
> Ebay has nothing to do with it, other than to provide a forum. They do
> provide tools and information to reduce your chances of getting
> scammed, but ultimately, they are not responsible.
>
> BTW, I'm not talking from any "holier than thou" viewpoint. I've been
> scammed myself. Lost $3000, not on Ebay, but in my very own home.
> Nothing at fault but my eagerness to buy and a shady satellite salesman.


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Re: eBay

2003-07-15 Thread Jim Katz

Put me in on the positive side for eBay.

In several thousand transactions now as seller and buyer, my wife and I
have had no seller frauds and about 5-10% non-paying bidders. (That doesn't
wind up being a big problem - eBay will pay back selling fees they charged
if the buyer defaults, and if act they will pay up to $500 to cover your own
loss if a seller defrauds you. Read the services material and use it.)

The only big problem I've run into is the darn post office.  Too often
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Canadian Post Office and shipment to the US). They are good at smashing
stuff as well. 

I think everyone's suggestions are great for minimizing the risks, but
don't jump to conclusions about fraud when the Post Office turns out to be
the real baddy often enough.  (They don't call it the P.O. for nothing.)


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Re: iBook battery revival

2003-07-15 Thread Nancy Butts

Dear Wiebe,

Try the suggestion below, which I have NOT attempted myself, but read 
about last week on the Macintouch Web site. There are lots of 
testimonials there from people who've tried it and found that it 
solved their battery problems. Good luck!

Nancy

From Rob Wyatt on Macintouch: I'd like to share a recent experience 
with my iBook (white, dual USB, 600mHz). I hadn't used it in a few 
weeks and when I turned it on, the battery was completely dead. I... 
I booted into Open Firmware and typed "reset-nvram", followed by 
"reset-all". Surprise, surprise...my battery came back to life and 
recharged fine. Too bad Apple tech support didn't tell me to try 
this! I figured I'd share this experience in case anyone else out 
there is having a similar problem.

How to boot into Open Firmware Option-Command-O-F.

If you are at the Open Firmware screen and want to start up into Mac 
OS, simply type "mac-boot" without the quotes at the command prompt 
and press Return to exit Open Firmware. The iMac should exit Open 
Firmware and continue starting up into Mac OS.


Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:21:19 +1000
Subject: iBook Battery
From: Wiebe Wilbers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello All,

I have a white 500Mhz iBook, whose battery seems to be all but dead. It
manages to hold about 20 mins of charge... Does anyone have any miracle
tricks for reviving an old battery?
I enquired about re-packing it, but that was going to cost about the same as
a new one (I have bought a second (new) battery, but want to see if I can
give the original a bit more life)
Thanks,

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Re: Ebay powerbooks

2003-07-15 Thread Malcolm Cornelius


> 3. suggest you will pay in cash and collect the item (again even if you
> don't intend to, this will flush out the fraudsters who will immediately say
> it is not possible. You can do this even if the item is overseas by saying
> something like "I will be in your country on a business trip next week could
> I drop by and collect it...")

I can't believe that anyone in UK WOULDN'T do this for anything of any
serious value - there's nowhere much more than a few hours travelling away
after all, unless you live in Cornwall and buy from someone in Scotland I
suppose !

I see complaints about this all the time and wonder how many people send
1000 GBP plus to someone they've never met via a classified ad in the
newspaper ?  Not many - so why should EBay be treated any differently ?

Btw I wouldn't ever accept escrow as several friend have been ripped off by
bad buyers using escrow.

One thing that few people have mentioned is contacting the local trading
standards - I had a suspect auction on Freeserve and they were very helpful.

Best wishes

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Re: ebay

2003-07-15 Thread Malcolm Cornelius

on 15/07/03 13:32, Joaquim Carvalho at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anyone knows of a good web place/mailing list to sell and buy used
> Powerbooks (preferably in Europe)

Macads ?

I buy and sell Powerbooks but not in volume.

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Re: ebay

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Kidd

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 03:25 AM, Michel Treisman wrote:

I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti 
powerbook, never saw the goods
and lost all my money.  Am I responsible for not knowing how things 
worked, or the website for not warning me?
I know it sounds cruel, but to a large degree, yes, you are 
responsible. Ebay, as with any sort of used marketplace, is "buyer 
beware." It's up to you to do the research, to figure out how the game 
is played and to accept that there are only two people involved in the 
transaction - you and the scammer.

Ebay has nothing to do with it, other than to provide a forum. They do 
provide tools and information to reduce your chances of getting 
scammed, but ultimately, they are not responsible.

BTW, I'm not talking from any "holier than thou" viewpoint. I've been 
scammed myself. Lost $3000, not on Ebay, but in my very own home. 
Nothing at fault but my eagerness to buy and a shady satellite salesman.

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Re: ebay

2003-07-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 15/07/03 08:32, Joaquim Carvalho at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 13:10, K. wrote:
>> I would rather buy from
>> the LEM Swap list and have done so a few times, with much better results..
> 
> What is the LEM Swap list?
> Anyone knows of a good web place/mailing list to sell and buy used
> Powerbooks (preferably in Europe)

LEM Swap list is also a list hosted or sponsored by Low End Mac which lets
members trade and sale all things Macintosh.

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Re: Ebay Powerbooks

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Kidd

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 03:50 AM, Illovox Media wrote:

Well, Ryan, that's four accounts to the negative as well as positive.  
And I
can report a 1400 I bought out of CA had a past police are interested
in...hard fact.  EBAY did nothing.  NOTHING.  In fact, neither did the
police...
If you're keeping count, you can add me to the positive side. I've been 
buying and selling on Ebay since early on, and I've only had one bad 
experience, and that was with a buyer. Ebay dealt with him promptly 
after I complained about him.

But with all this chatter about how most of the Powerbooks on Ebay are 
scams, I decided to take a look for myself. After reviewing more than 
100 Powerbook listings, I've found four that were obvious scams. One 
gentleman even offered to include the latest version of Windows XP - if 
that's not a clear indicator, I don't know what would be.

I did find half a dozen or so that seemed suspicious, but as someone 
pointed out, requesting escrow is a sure way to weed out someone who 
doesn't intend to send you the product. I, for one, don't have any 
problems with paying escrow fees when I'm sending $2,000 to someone I 
don't know in a foreign country (That would be the US for me).

But by and large, the vast majority were people who seemed to be making 
honest transactions. One guy even suggested that you drop by to pick up 
the machine, if you felt unsure. The really sad thing that I did notice 
though, was people bidding up the price on auctions so high that they 
might as well buy at a retail used/refurbished store. Foolish.

Cheers - Steve K.

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Re: ebay

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 13:10, K. wrote:
> I would rather buy from
> the LEM Swap list and have done so a few times, with much better results..

What is the LEM Swap list?
Anyone knows of a good web place/mailing list to sell and buy used
Powerbooks (preferably in Europe)
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Re: ebay

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:49, Joaquim Carvalho wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:25, Michel Treisman wrote:
> > I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti 
> > powerbook, never saw the goods
> > and lost all my money.
> 
> The same thing also happened to me twice.
> Joaquim

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Re: ebay

2003-07-15 Thread K.

Illovox Media wrote:

> Ryan...5
>

Got my Pismo on ebay 2 years ago this week...Fantastic Deal...BUT  I was
lucky enough to be able to pick it up and pay in personThe seller lived
about 200 miles east of me but was about 20 minutes away from my son's
apt...Drove down, picked it up and made a week-end of it.  Have had a total
of about 3 buys on Ebay and all were ok, although the first was supposedly
an external cdrw that turned out to be an internal unit...That took several
weeks before the guy in Florida finally shipped it.  I would rather buy from
the LEM Swap list and have done so a few times, with much better results..
The only problem there was/is a Dayna Ether Talk thingy to connect the Pismo
and/or imac se dvd to my PLW NTR...Can't figure out how to do that... That
being said remember that Ebay is just a forum...it's Caveat Emptor in the
most definite way...I haven't been at the Ebay site for several months...
Regatds,
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IRDA Connection From X to 9 and Vice Versa

Here's a challenge:

I have an iBook 600 and a buddy has a 3400c 200.  His unit has InfraRed, my
iBook does not.  I bought a MadsonLine IRDA to USB dongle.  My unit
recognizes it in X.2.3.  Great so far.  But HOW the HECK do I get the 3400c
and the iBook to see each other via IRDA?  Can't figure out how to set them
up after hours of Googling and trying.  Apple docs are no help.

Anyone?  Ground up explanation and techniques?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: Buying a new PowerBook

2003-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



> From: Illovox Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:43:46 -0700
> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Buying a new PowerBook
> 
> on 7/14/03 11:25 PM, Bruce Mitchell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> on 7/14/03 10:48 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> on 7/14/03 9:47 PM, James Rohde at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
 http://www.insanely-great.com/features/020215.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> link is dead
>>> 
>> 
>> It works for me.
>> 
> 
> Nope.  Still dead for me.

I had to change it to http://www.insanelygreatmac.com/features/020215.html
in order for it to work.

(returning to lurk mode and dreaming of owning a pismo someday)
bertie


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Re: ebay

6 people scammed...


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Re: ebay

Ryan...5

on 7/15/03 3:25 AM, Michel Treisman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti
> powerbook, never saw the goods
> and lost all my money.  Am I responsible for not knowing how things
> worked, or the website for not warning me?
> 
> Since then I have found scams on the powerbook list (UK) every day.
> They become recognisable. I sent letters off to many of the sellers.
> 
> I have about 10 replies which are very similar to the following:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello there,
> Before any bidding takes place you must know that for the moment I
> accept payment only in cash either through wire transfer or direct
> pick-up
> because I am currently in Germany  where me and my partner etc.


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Re: Ebay Powerbooks

Well, Ryan, that's four accounts to the negative as well as positive.  And I
can report a 1400 I bought out of CA had a past police are interested
in...hard fact.  EBAY did nothing.  NOTHING.  In fact, neither did the
police...

on 7/15/03 3:00 AM, Tom Burke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I would have to agree with Chris. I reported the 'Buy Information...'
> items to ebay UK, and they didn't seem to be too bothered. Although I
> would concede that in those cases, the item description is strictly
> correct and no ostensible fraud is taking place.
> 
> Like many others I've bought a number of items from ebay UK, including
> 3 powerbooks (2 Lombards & 1 Pismo) and a PowerMac G4 ( in the last 18
> months my family have switched almost completely to macs, though only
> to s/hand ones) and all my rtransactions have gone well. The only issue
> I've had with ebay Macs has occurred recently - Derbyshire constabulary
> took a statement from me about the Powermac which I bought last
> November, and examined it & took serial numbers. So that one may have a
> murky past.
> 
> Tom Burke


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Re: ebay

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:25, Michel Treisman wrote:
> I wandered onto eBay three weeks ago as a newbie, bought a bargain Ti 
> powerbook, never saw the goods
> and lost all my money.

The same thing also happened to me twice.
Joaquim


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Re: eBay

on 7/15/03 1:48 AM, jdc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone tried to buy a Powerbook on Ebay? Have you notices that most
 Powerbook sales are scams? Why doesn't Ebay or the police do anything
 about this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Most PowerBook sales are scams? I bought recently 2 Pismos and a Lombard
>>> on eBay. While still awaiting the Lombard's arrival, I already have both
>>> the Pismos and am very satisfied. So that clearly disproves Joaquim's
>>> statement! :-)
>>> 
>> 
>> What he is referring to is the fact that most powerbook titled
>> auctions are actually for 'information' on how to get free or cheap
>> stuff from the government and other businesses. Yes it is false
>> advertising but it is in no way a scam. They say in it that it is for
>> information not a computer. Hell, they show 10 different computers.
>> You think you are getting those computers for $50? Well, then, you
>> fell for it. You will become the laughing stock of the world when you
>> get an envelope in the mail full of papers and not a computer like you
>> thought you were buying.
> 
> 
> No, I'm referring to the 15" and 17" G4s you see at Ebay for a good
> price, like 1000 to 2000 USD

exactly


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Re: Ebay powerbooks

Ya see, Ryan?  That's two of us now seeing the same thing.  So you've had
groovy experiences there.  So have I.  Doesn't mean crooks aren't all over
the thing.

Why do you think the DOJ is investigating?

on 7/15/03 12:12 AM, Christopher Hack at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> I have bought several powerbooks on ebay from here in the UK. There is a big
> scam (certainly with ebay in the UK ) where people list big ticket items
> including PowerBooks, and then offer to sell them outside the auction with
> lines in the advert like "contact me to buy this". Many of these seem to
> have a lot of positive feedback, but I have discovered they have either
> stolen someone else's ID (and you can identify this because you will find
> not much recent feedback), or they build up a feedback profile  by buying
> many cheap items.
> The giveaway sign seem to be no pictures of the actual powerbook - just
> pictures from the brochure.
> I would recommend:
> 1. contacting the seller and asking for a serial number and recent photos of
> the item
> 2. asking if they are prepared to use escrow (even if you don't plan to use
> it), I have found the fraudsters always find some reason why they cannot
> accept escrow.
> 3. suggest you will pay in cash and collect the item (again even if you
> don't intend to, this will flush out the fraudsters who will immediately say
> it is not possible. You can do this even if the item is overseas by saying
> something like "I will be in your country on a business trip next week could
> I drop by and collect it...")
> 
> I contacted ebay fraud office and told them about these scams but they have
> done nothing. Best of luck.
> 
> Chris
> 


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Re: Buying a new PowerBook

on 7/14/03 11:25 PM, Bruce Mitchell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 7/14/03 10:48 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> on 7/14/03 9:47 PM, James Rohde at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.insanely-great.com/features/020215.html
>> 
>> 
>> link is dead
>> 
> 
> It works for me.
> 

Nope.  Still dead for me.


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