Re: 12" 1.33Ghz Tibook questions

[Donald Keenan]

On Friday, August 20, 2004, at 11:46 PM, Jonathan Newman wrote:
did they ever "actually" make the powerbooks out of titanium?
 - Jonathan

Yes, the old TiBooks were made of titanium and then they painted them 
that silver-like color. Flaking and scratching was an issue. I don't 
think the poor AirPort/WiFi reception was an issue related to the use 
of titanium, or was it,  in part?

When NeXT was still making its cubes, they were magnesium with black 
paint covering them.

Donald
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Re: 12" 1.33Ghz Tibook questions

[Jonathan Newman]

did they ever "actually" make the powerbooks out of titanium?
 - Jonathan

On Aug 20, 2004, at 8:35 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:
You actually bought a 12" AlBook for your wife. All the new Powerbooks 
are Aluminum. :)

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Re: 12" 1.33Ghz Tibook questions

[Steve Fuller]

just bought a 12" Tibook for my wife. Fantastic machine! Sleek, 
whisper quiet, fabulous screen, so far it seems to be just about 
perfect.
You actually bought a 12" AlBook for your wife. All the new Powerbooks 
are Aluminum. :)

than my Indigo Firewire iBook. I think I've read widely on the web 
about the Powerbooks being warmish. The news today about the 15" PB 
with overheating batteries got me slightly worried, though. So the 
question is: is what I am describing normal for 12" Tibooks?
That's close to where the hard drive is, so it can get a bit warm from 
time to time. There's a lot of stuff packed into a 12" PB so there's 
not as much room for ventilation, therefore it's going to run warmer 
than most anything you've run into before. That G4 generates a lot of 
heat. :)


- the often-discussed question of fingerprints on the screen: on my 
iBook I always place the foam sheet that came with the machine on the 
keyboard before closing the lid. The Tibook seems to have two feet on 
the lid that may actually prevent the keys from touching the screen. I 
would be inclined to use the same strategy and place the foam thingie 
on the keyboard before closing the lid. Any thoughts?
I still have issues with keyprints on my 17" PBs screen. You can use 
that foam thing, or purchase a nice soft cloth from someplace like 
RadTech. http://www.radtech.us I have the radtech cloth and I've been 
quite happy with it. It cleans the screen well too w/o scratching it.

Steve Fuller
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Re: Disc Burner or HD for Clamshell?

[Thomas Ethen]

My daughters Tangareen iBook 300 sees her Iomega drive just fine, but only
in 8.6. When I updated to 9.2 the iBook could no longer see the burner.

Tom

on 8/20/04 21:28, Jim Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anybody had luck with a CD burner or an external HD for an original
> Clamshell iBook?  It has OS9.2 and USB 1 (no firewire.)  I tried everything
> that has been suggested so far, but no luck getting Toast 5 to see a LaCie
> burner (though it shows up in System Profiler.)
> 
> Thanks in advance for the wisdom of the list.
> 
> Jim
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Re: Rev. A Albook, was Re: Refurbished ABS

[Jonathan Newman]

Come on dude, Yeah okay Apple makes a dud every once and a while. There 
have plenty of crappy Apple desktops! And there have been crappy lap 
tops! It's all a mix! I personally never had an Apple laptop break on 
me, ever! Thats from a PB 100, 165, 190, 1400, Pismo, iBook G4!! Thats 
six laptops, and I still own all six! they all run perfect! I think 
Apple laptops are more or less bullet proof! I've owned Dell laptops 
too! I have currently a Inspiron 1150, I think it's a real piece (if 
you know what I mean...) I've also owned a few Latitudes in my day, and 
although they have a nice warranty, they kept breaking!

On the other hand, you get what you pay for.
You bought a re-furb. There obviously had to be something wrong with it 
in order for it to need to become refurbished. If you want quality you 
have to pay top dollar! Thats the way this world works! I bought all my 
laptops brand new, and if there was any sign of any problem I'd send it 
back before I ever got into using it.

You need to ensure that what they have sold you is their very best.
When you graduate and you've got your Ph.D. and you've got all that 
money your making from your ~hot!!!~ job, and you go looking for a 
laptop, just gaze over what Apple has to offer.

Because if you compare a BRAND NEW PowerBook 17" with all the bells and 
whistles, to a PowerBook 100 with all of "it's" bells and whistles, I'm 
sure you'll find that apple has only really been improving the design, 
not digressing.

 - Jonathan

On Aug 20, 2004, at 6:49 PM, Michael Levin wrote:
 As for a laptop, dude, I am getting a Dell.

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Disc Burner or HD for Clamshell?

[Jim Katz]

Anybody had luck with a CD burner or an external HD for an original
Clamshell iBook?  It has OS9.2 and USB 1 (no firewire.)  I tried everything
that has been suggested so far, but no luck getting Toast 5 to see a LaCie
burner (though it shows up in System Profiler.)

Thanks in advance for the wisdom of the list.

Jim


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Re: Rev. A Albook, was Re: Refurbished ABS

[Michael Levin]

I missed those posts too. :-( I bought a refurb 15" AlBook in March. Not
less than six months later, I have two cracks on the plastic frame, the palm
rest has separated from the plastic trim, and there are burned in marks on
the screen.

When I contacted Apple, they told me it was normal wear and tear and thus
not covered by Apple Care.

If you are going to sell your product at a premium, then you must offer
premium customer service.

I think Apple makes a superior desktop machine. My SE and iMac DV wore like
iron, and I have nothing but great things to say about them. I also had
three different Apple desktops through various jobs. Again, all of them were
great machines.

However, having suffered through the PB 180, which needed a new track ball
housing every 6 months, and the AlBook, I thoroughly believe Apple cannot
build or service a lap top.

When I get my next job in three years (I am currently working on my Ph.D. In
Marketing), I will press for an Apple desktop. As for a laptop, dude, I am
getting a Dell.

On 8/20/04 5:43 PM, "Anne Judge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Aug 20, 2004, at 8:53 AM, BobGir wrote:
> Whoa, I missed these posts, what were the reasons for avoiding rev. A??
> 
> (I picked up a 1st-gen 17" CompUSA store demo at Christmas, and hadn't
> heard anything bad about it - at least, anything that an iBook was
> better at.)
> 
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Re: 12" 1.33Ghz Tibook questions

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 20, 2004, at 7:04 PM, walter wrote:
Hello listers,
just bought a 12" Tibook for my wife. Fantastic machine! Sleek, 
whisper quiet, fabulous screen, so far it seems to be just about 
perfect.

A few questions, if I may:
- the 'book feels fairly warm to the touch in the area to the left of 
the trackpad. I'm running a program called 'temperature monitor' and 
the range of CPU temp. is from 42º to 58º Celsius. When doing WP 
tasks, the temperature is 42º and only hots up when copying large 
files or using Photoshop or whatever. So far it seems absolutely fine; 
it's just a fair bit warmer than my Indigo Firewire iBook. I think 
I've read widely on the web about the Powerbooks being warmish. The 
news today about the 15" PB with overheating batteries got me slightly 
worried, though. So the question is: is what I am describing normal 
for 12" Tibooks?
Yes. The hard drive is in the location you're describing, and drives 
generate a fair amount of heat, especially when working hard. Also, the 
12" runs hotter than the 15" for the simple reason it has less mass to 
dissipate the heat of pretty much the same components. All of the metal 
powerbooks integrate the case as a heat sink, so they run warm.

Your old iBook has a LOT more mass and is plastic besides.
- my wife will use it both on the road and in her office. She will 
need to synchronize her files between the PB and her 17" FP iMac. I 
bought an Airport Extreme card for the iMac, and the two 'puters now 
talk to each other very easily indeed. What's the best file sync 
program in your view? I'm trying out 'File Synchronization' ($12), and 
I like its interface and ease of use. It seems quite functional even 
for backups to the LaCie Firewire Mobile Drive we use.
Well, I think you've found the best solution right there! But don't 
just take my opinion, lets ask someone impartial, like say Laurent ;-)

(Laurent Daudelin, the author of that software, is a frequent poster 
here)

- the often-discussed question of fingerprints on the screen: on my 
iBook I always place the foam sheet that came with the machine on the 
keyboard before closing the lid. The Tibook seems to have two feet on 
the lid that may actually prevent the keys from touching the screen. I 
would be inclined to use the same strategy and place the foam thingie 
on the keyboard before closing the lid. Any thoughts?
Those feet help, but the powerbook is thin enough to flex, and 
certainly it's flexier than the iBook. All the people here with those 
powerbooks who don't keep something in there have key marks eventually. 
Getting into the habit of slipping in that foam or something else right 
from the beginning is a good idea, imo.

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Rev. A Albook, was Re: Refurbished ABS

[Anne Judge]

On Aug 20, 2004, at 8:53 AM, BobGir wrote:
...when SmallDog (and Apple) this year offered a reduced price on the
sale of Aluminum Power Books, ... folks on the
list cautioned me to first determine if they were Rev A and then, for a
number of reasons, if they were, to give them a pass.
I checked, they were Rev A, and I gave them a pass and got a 14" G4
iBook for my wife instead.
Whoa, I missed these posts, what were the reasons for avoiding rev. A??
(I picked up a 1st-gen 17" CompUSA store demo at Christmas, and hadn't 
heard anything bad about it - at least, anything that an iBook was 
better at.)

Anne
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Wireless router troubles

[Bert Mehling]

I have been struggling to get a Netgear MR814v2 router to stay connected to
my two ethernet connected iBooks and my Airport connected TiBook using DSL.
I spent a couple hours talking to Netgear service, installed a firmware
upgrade, restarted everything so many times it makes my head spin. Netgear
support doesn't offer warranty-covered support for Macs unless you agree to
pay by the minute so they are essentially useless. I am ready to give up on
this product and try something else. I have two wired connections and one
wireless, so I need a Mac supported router to handle this configuration.
Does anyone have experience with the following brands: Belkin, D-Link,
Asanta or Buffalo? Is the Airport Base Station worth considering?

Many thanks for your input. 

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Jonathan Newman]

Nope, it's just by itself. I want it running, closed, by itself.
 - Jonathan

On Aug 20, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
Some will continue working if you have connected an external monitor 
and
keyboard and mouse,

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Too Hilarious!

[illovox]

For all the moaning about how Apple has screwed up DVD playback and
exploding batteries (oh yes, the pundits are at it already in Microsloth
Land--I mean, Seattle)...check this out...it has always been this way for me
with Windows...:)

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/winrg.php


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12" 1.33Ghz Tibook questions

[walter]

Hello listers,
just bought a 12" Tibook for my wife. Fantastic machine! Sleek, whisper 
quiet, fabulous screen, so far it seems to be just about perfect.

A few questions, if I may:
- the 'book feels fairly warm to the touch in the area to the left of 
the trackpad. I'm running a program called 'temperature monitor' and 
the range of CPU temp. is from 42º to 58º Celsius. When doing WP tasks, 
the temperature is 42º and only hots up when copying large files or 
using Photoshop or whatever. So far it seems absolutely fine; it's just 
a fair bit warmer than my Indigo Firewire iBook. I think I've read 
widely on the web about the Powerbooks being warmish. The news today 
about the 15" PB with overheating batteries got me slightly worried, 
though. So the question is: is what I am describing normal for 12" 
Tibooks?

- my wife will use it both on the road and in her office. She will need 
to synchronize her files between the PB and her 17" FP iMac. I bought 
an Airport Extreme card for the iMac, and the two 'puters now talk to 
each other very easily indeed. What's the best file sync program in 
your view? I'm trying out 'File Synchronization' ($12), and I like its 
interface and ease of use. It seems quite functional even for backups 
to the LaCie Firewire Mobile Drive we use.

- the often-discussed question of fingerprints on the screen: on my 
iBook I always place the foam sheet that came with the machine on the 
keyboard before closing the lid. The Tibook seems to have two feet on 
the lid that may actually prevent the keys from touching the screen. I 
would be inclined to use the same strategy and place the foam thingie 
on the keyboard before closing the lid. Any thoughts?

I apologise if these questions are trite. They have probably been done 
to death on this list, which I have just joined. Any help/suggestions 
would be highly appreciated of course.

Walter
12" G4 1.33Ghz Powerbook 768Mb Ram
17" G4 1.25Ghz iMac 768Mb Ram
G3 500Mhz iMac DVSE 384Mb Ram
G3 366Mhz Firewire iBook 320Mb Ram
all running OS 10.3.5
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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 20/08/04 16:14, "Malcolm Cornelius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 20/08/04 19:52, victoria.duggan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> it might turn a bit sticky but try a bit of blue tac over the magnetic
>> lock to the catch.
>> as i think the lock has something to do with the sleep command when
>> closed and engaged.
> 
> The iBook sleep is controlled by a magnet and a reed switch in the screen.
> 
> You could remove the magnet or disconnect the wires from the reed switch.
> 
> The wires from the logic board to the reed switch are the closest two of the
> six which go into the grey connector next to the keyboard socket on the
> logic board.
> 
> HOWEVER, it is my understanding that you shouldn't run an iBook like this
> due to the risk of overheating and damage.

I wholeheartedly agree. I would never run an iBook closed.

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Richard Clark]

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On 20 Aug 2004, at 20:58, Thomas Ethen wrote:
What if you removed the magnet that tells the laptop to go to sleep?
that is easy enough, the magnet usually falls on the floor when you 
take off the top case on the ibook. :) well it does on my g4 anyway.

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 20/08/2004 10:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

>I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want 
>the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running 
>programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to 
>sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it 
>to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly 
>appreciated.
>
>
>  - Jonathan

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 20/08/2004 10:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

>I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want 
>the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running 
>programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to 
>sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it 
>to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly 
>appreciated.
>
>
>  - Jonathan

Hmmm. The sleep switch was undoubtedly put there to MAKE computer
stop using the processor when the lid is closed. On my Wallsteet
I suspect that the thing would get VERY hot if running with the
lid closed. It gets hot enough with it open.

If you are " ...running programs all the time" the iBook generates
heat that has to go somewhere. Generally, a lot of that heat is
dissipated through the keyboard area. With the lid closed, it has
no where to go.

Ken

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 20/08/04 19:52, victoria.duggan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> it might turn a bit sticky but try a bit of blue tac over the magnetic
> lock to the catch.
> as i think the lock has something to do with the sleep command when
> closed and engaged.

The iBook sleep is controlled by a magnet and a reed switch in the screen.

You could remove the magnet or disconnect the wires from the reed switch.

The wires from the logic board to the reed switch are the closest two of the
six which go into the grey connector next to the keyboard socket on the
logic board.

HOWEVER, it is my understanding that you shouldn't run an iBook like this
due to the risk of overheating and damage.

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[victoria . duggan]

it might turn a bit sticky but try a bit of blue tac over the magnetic 
lock to the catch.
 as i think the lock has something to do with the sleep command when 
closed and engaged.

vicki

I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want
the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running
programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to
sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it
to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
  - Jonathan
Computer sleep and display sleep are different functions, not directly
related.  Assuming that you are running some version of OS X, which
you did not specify, you can go to System Preferences/Hardware/Energy
Saver/Sleep, and simply set "computer sleep" to never.

vick's Lombard
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Re: Lombard CD-ROM

[Mary Russell]

Go to an electronic store and pick up a cd drive cleaner.  I bought 
memorex.  Run it a few times.  Helped mine,
and my drive is about dead (also lombard).  If that doesn't work, it may 
be time for a new drive.  That's
what I had to do.

Mary
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Help!! I have a Lombard 333, 128mb/4.3gb/original Matshita CD-ROM
I was about to upgrade to Jaguar from OS 9.2.2, popped in the CD...the 
drive spins up about halfway, and is constantly reading...i let it sit 
for 2 minutes, never mounted! I popped the CD in my Yosemite with 
Panther 10.3.5/9.2.2 and it mounted instantly. The disk does have 
several minor-almost-not-there scratches on it. Does anyone know of 
any methods for cleaning/repairing a CD or cleaning the laser?
Thank you

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Thomas Ethen]

What if you removed the magnet that tells the laptop to go to sleep?

Tom
> 
> Good suggestion but if he closes the lid, I don't think that will help. I
> don't know of any way to keep the computer running when closing the lid.
> Some will continue working if you have connected an external monitor and
> keyboard and mouse, but the original poster didn't mention this...
> 
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DVD Decoder card

[COCCORP]

Hi; I am currently looking for an extra DVD decoder pc card for a Wallstreet 
I am giving to a relative.

Am I restricted to Apple's DVD decoder? I have seen several others, including 
one by VST.

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 20/08/04 13:47, "Fabian Fang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:10:41 -0700, Jonathan Newman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want
>> the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running
>> programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to
>> sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it
>> to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> 
>>   - Jonathan
> 
> Computer sleep and display sleep are different functions, not directly
> related.  Assuming that you are running some version of OS X, which
> you did not specify, you can go to System Preferences/Hardware/Energy
> Saver/Sleep, and simply set "computer sleep" to never.

Good suggestion but if he closes the lid, I don't think that will help. I
don't know of any way to keep the computer running when closing the lid.
Some will continue working if you have connected an external monitor and
keyboard and mouse, but the original poster didn't mention this...

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Re: Turning off Sleep

[Fabian Fang]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:10:41 -0700, Jonathan Newman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want
> the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running
> programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to
> sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it
> to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
>   - Jonathan

Computer sleep and display sleep are different functions, not directly
related.  Assuming that you are running some version of OS X, which
you did not specify, you can go to System Preferences/Hardware/Energy
Saver/Sleep, and simply set "computer sleep" to never.

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Turning off Sleep

[Jonathan Newman]

I would like my iBook to stay on when the screen is down. I don't want 
the screen on, just I don't want it to go to sleep, because I'm running 
programs all the time. I've already got it so the display will go to 
sleep and the computer will not, when the display is up. But I want it 
to stay on even when it's all closed up. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

 - Jonathan

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Re: 144 buck expansion bay DVD-R/RW

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 20/08/04 12:06, "Bruce Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:19  PM, Peter Stein wrote:
> 
>> Laurent, you are totally correct. I have a G3 cpu in my Pismo and
>> wouldn't be able to utilize iDVD. I understand that Toast should do ok
>> without a G4 so I'll give it a wing from there. I know it came later
>> in my original post but I'm probably going to migrate this over to my
>> Cube with a 450mhz G4 where iDVD would be fully functional (when I get
>> it).
> 
> Maybe. iDVD has a stated minimum of a 733 MHz G4...

That must be a recommended minimum because I've been able to use it on my
500MHz G4 on my Blue & White. No speed daemon, of course, but it works, so
far...

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Re: 144 buck expansion bay DVD-R/RW

[Bruce Johnson]

On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:19  PM, Peter Stein wrote:
Laurent, you are totally correct. I have a G3 cpu in my Pismo and 
wouldn't be able to utilize iDVD. I understand that Toast should do ok 
without a G4 so I'll give it a wing from there. I know it came later 
in my original post but I'm probably going to migrate this over to my 
Cube with a 450mhz G4 where iDVD would be fully functional (when I get 
it).
Maybe. iDVD has a stated minimum of a 733 MHz G4...
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Re: Refurbished ABS

[Bruce Johnson]

On Friday, August 20, 2004, at 05:53  AM, BobGir wrote:
I presume that the new iMacs will have a built-in modem, so the 
lack of
a modem on the above Extreme Base Stations should be no problem.  
Right???
Well, the modem is there so you can connect to the internet wirelessly 
via modem. If you have a broadband access, it's irrelevant.

If you're still using dial-up, it's significant because you'll only be 
able to connect to systems inside your house wirelessly. If you use the 
iBooks modem, you're connected (and tied down) via the phone cord, so 
what's the wireless for?

May I assume that, using the ABS and the iBook only one floor 
apart in
my home would mean that the absence of an antenna port would likewise 
not be
a deal breaker?
It depends. Wireless range is dependent on a large number of variables 
like the construction of your house, competing signals, etc (2.4Ghz 
cordless phones will interfere, as will microwave ovens to a lesser 
extent* so watch out for those), so without testing it's impossible to 
tell, actually.

*I've seen lots of ads happily showing people in the kitchen surfing on 
their wireless, so the microwave thing isn't out of the question, 
though you do have to be fairly close to it for it to interfere. One 
lab here had a microwave on the bench next to a system connected via 
802.11b..sure enough, every time they fired up the microwave, the 
computer lost the network. Moving the microwave across the lab (about 
15 feet away) fixed it.

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Re: PB "chirping"?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 09:55  AM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
My Powerbook was acting very strangely this morning.
I wondered if this was a sign of trouble ahead.
Then it all stopped.  Everything seems fine.  If I hadn't noticed the 
slowness earlier, I wouldn't have known any of this had happened and 
it all seems fine.

So do I ignore it as a strange aberration or call AppleCare and tell 
them what happened?
Don't ignore it. That sounds just like what the drive did on one of our 
professors' TiBook just before the drive failed completely. While it's 
alive, get your data off of it. It could be a bad sector, as you say, 
so you may just end up with a current backup, but I wouldn't chance it.

Have you tried repairing the disk (not just repair permissions)?

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Refurbished ABS

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> AirPort Extreme Base Station (without modem and antenna port) - Apple
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> Apple. Based on a new high-speed wireless technology called 802.11g, it
> enables you to achieve data rates nearly 5 times faster than the original
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> Extreme-enabled Mac computers, as well as Windows PCs with Wi-Fi certified
> 802.11b cards installed.
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Saw the above on DealMac.

Several time in the past, List subscribers have saved me from making an
unwise purchase by noting that an item on offer was perhaps not the best
buy.  

E.g., when SmallDog (and Apple) this year offered a reduced price on the
sale of Aluminum Power Books, without noting they were Rev A, folks on the
list cautioned me to first determine if they were Rev A and then, for a
number of reasons, if they were, to give them a pass.

I checked, they were Rev A, and I gave them a pass and got a 14" G4
iBook for my wife instead.

I presume that the new iMacs will have a built-in modem, so the lack of
a modem on the above Extreme Base Stations should be no problem.  Right???

May I assume that, using the ABS and the iBook only one floor apart in
my home would mean that the absence of an antenna port would likewise not be
a deal breaker?

Many thanks,
bob 


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