Stalling ADSL connection, router ?!?
I have just connected a straight forward D-link ADSL router and now the Internet connection stalls on and off, or at least I think it's the router... It works for a period of around a couple of minutes (haven't timed it) and then everything (Internet, not the Mac) stalls. All loading web pages in Safari just wait and any downloads or uploads in Carracho show as (Stalled), and then after about 10-30 seconds (haven't timed that either) everything comes back on as usual. Never had this before. Any ideas ? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger available?
I spoke with Apple telesales - The only thing shipping with Tiger today are the new PowerMacs. Now they need to update all other stock, with ref'd items being last. I'm almost certain my brother-in-laws ref'd PB12 came with Jaguar installed and Panther discs thrown in the box - this was shortly after Panther made it's debut. So we'll hold for a week. On 4/29/05, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Van Snyder wrote: I'm helping my retired parents purchase an iBook. I should be able to buy it first thing Friday morning and assume that Tiger will ship with it, right? I don't have to wait until after 6pm - I know it sounds silly to ask, but Mr. Jobs has a way of being quite particular! :) --Van If I were you. I would contact the store and ask them. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Installing 10.3 on a WS
On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:07 PM, themacuser wrote: XPostFacto is what you mean and you will need to do that from Mac OS 9. Then you use it to boot the 10.3 installation disk. Thanks. Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds, And on the back a speckled feather binds; So just the colours shine through ev'ry part, That nature seems to live again in art. John Gay Rural Sports 1720 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Stalling ADSL connection, router ?!?
My Reply follows quote. On 28/04/2005 23:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have just connected a straight forward D-link ADSL router and now the Internet connection stalls on and off, or at least I think it's the router... It works for a period of around a couple of minutes (haven't timed it) and then everything (Internet, not the Mac) stalls. All loading web pages in Safari just wait and any downloads or uploads in Carracho show as (Stalled), and then after about 10-30 seconds (haven't timed that either) everything comes back on as usual. Never had this before. Any ideas ? Larry - My Linksys has a check box on the setup page for Keep Active. The function of this setting appears to be to keep the provider from placing the connection in an inactive status which must be powered up when traffic starts again. Do you have a browser based interface to the router? Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Installing 10.3 on a WS
Thanks again Laurent. On Apr 28, 2005, at 9:49 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Somebody else posted earlier today that you need to boot into OS 9 in order to be able to install XPostFacto. Then, you can reboot from the Panther installation CD. -Laurent. Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds, And on the back a speckled feather binds; So just the colours shine through ev'ry part, That nature seems to live again in art. John Gay Rural Sports 1720 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Installing 10.3 on a WS
Thanks for the info Tom, I'll start the process next Sunday, I'm leaving for a fishing weekend. ciao On Apr 28, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Tom Peterson wrote: Hector. I have 10.3.9 on this wallstreet I. It has a blue chip g4 500 mhz processor upgrade with a pair of 256 meg sodimms. I have to put the old processor in to install os 10.x. I first create a 7.5 meg or smaller partition on the hard drive to install osx onto. Then install os 9. once 0s 9 is in i download or otherwise install xpostfacto. this allows me to install osx. Then spend an hour or two running the updates. after this put the g4 back in. Wahl Lah. Good luck. Using XPF options use patched Rage Pro drivers. Turn off L2 cache, this is in the readme. then reboot to 0SX. I am using 2 megs for the video with this version of wallstreet. It pauses to display the Iphoto's. but Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds, And on the back a speckled feather binds; So just the colours shine through ev'ry part, That nature seems to live again in art. John Gay Rural Sports 1720 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo and Wallstreet RAM questions...
My Fellow PowerBook-philes, I was wondering -- is the RAM on a Wallstreet compatible with the RAM on a Pismo? The reason I ask is that I have a relative abundance of Wallstreet RAM (over 1 gig, split between upper and lower) and I have a Pismo on the way that only has 192 RAM. I am tempted to just buy new RAM and max it out cheap-like, but it will set me back about $180 or so and the idea was to have a cheap Book for my GF. (Yes, I ended up getting a Pismo for her I decided I wanted to surprise her by making her games work -- plus, it will impress upon her the selection of PC software titles also available on Mac. The goal here is to win her over to Mac for life -- especially if we end up going the distance. [g]) I am already looking at eating about $100 for an airport card, so I'd rather not push the RAM up to where I could have gotten her an iBook Ice or something. Still, it would be ... ironic for her Pismo to be decked out with more RAM than my brand new 1.2ghz iBook (at 748). And if I add the 40gig HD hehe. Oh, one other thing -- how do the size profiles of the Wallstreet and Pismo compare? Sincerely, Pacer the now-broke Oh crap, now how am I going to pay for Law School...? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless recomendations?
Hi Van, Thanks again. The Belkin 7010 card box had nothing of the sort. However the web site made the same claim re being compatible with 1026 and 103X. Wonder Why the Asanté doen't work with an APEBS??? BTW the Belkin 7010, Ver. 3001 does work well in my Wallstreet (1028) and Pismo (1036) using the driver from Ralink who made the chipset. It is superior to the original Airport card in the Pismo!!! Still wished it worked with apple's driver. Deaner On Apr 28, 2005, at 9:52 PM, Van Snyder wrote: Software Requirements: Supports Apple Macintosh OS X 10.3 or higher and MS Windows 98SE/Me/2000/XP computers. Mentions that it is 'Interoperable with Apple AirPort and AirPort Extreme Base Stations. Carries the ' X Built for OS X' logo. hope this helps! --Van If someone tries one, be sure to report back! On 4/28/05, Deaner Lawless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Van, Are there any details on the box about the hardware and/or firmware version? Deaner -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Stalling ADSL connection, router ?!?
From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Linksys has a check box on the setup page for Keep Active. It's a D-link and there's an option called Auto-reconnect and that is enabled, but I believe that is to do with the actual ADSL session, so that one doesn't have to log back in if the computer has been inactive for a long time. What I am talking about here is a stall of around 20 seconds where no traffic occurs, but the computer responds ok. --- Do you have a browser based interface to the router? Yes, IP=192.168.0.1 Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Modem Not Recognized
Cliff Rediger said: Mikael, where it the network panel to which you refer? Uhm, in System preferences in Mac OS X. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Installing 10.3 on a WS
Tom Peterson said: Turn off L2 cache, this is in the readme Actually, I think this is not necessary anymore and at the very least one doesn't have to keep the L2 cache turned off in ordet to run 10.3 on a wallstreet. Many cited problems in the XPF documentation was only around in the Alpha and Beta stages. I recommend to read about user experiences with similar machines in the user forums. Also one should remember that WS I and WS II (PDQ) machines may behave very different with XPF. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Installation of 10.4
Sorry for this cross posting, but I have all of these: G4 Tower, iMac and iBook. I Installed 10.4 on the G5 iMac first, it went flawlessly and not one problem. The G4 Tower is a dual 1 gig Quicksilver and it took a total of 3 attempts at installation before it finally worked. The iBook installed just like the iMac. The iBook is a G4 1.2 gig 12 incher. Thought I would let everybody know my experience. Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Replace hard drive in Wallstreet
The National Enquirer reports at 3:11 PM -0500 4/27/05, Scott Birdwell wrote: Ed, Be aware that our magnanimous sponsor, Low End Mac, warns, According to the Road Warrior and Other World Computing, the drive controller in G3 PowerBooks is incompatible with ATA-6 hard drives. When replacing the internal hard drive, you should be sure to obtain an ATA-5 complaint drive, which supports transfer speeds of up to 100 MB/sec. As for a reference manual, your best bet is to go to: http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/?p=Wallstreet*00 and check out the Fix It Guide. I've used it a lot. Even better it's free! As to the level of difficulty, it is relatively easy IMHO. Hope this helps. I had decided to stop replying to posts on this list. The last 2 or 3 times I've posted questions they didn't merit anybody's time or effort. AFAIC help is a two-way street. But I can't let this pass. The information above is absolutely incorrect (not the source, but the information). Below is information that I accumulated some time ago when researching the subject. And I can contradict it from personal experience. I just bought 2 ATA-6 drives for one of my Wallstreets. One drive I have partitioned and connected externally. The second one I just installed internally and loaded with OS 9 X with no problems. For reference, it is common to refer to IDE drives as: ATA/66 (ATA-5) ATA/100 (ATA-6) ATA/133 SATA It's important to realize that despite all of the various names and flavors,for the most part IDE/ATA is IDE/ATA. Especially since the late 1990s, virtually all IDE/ATA drives and controllers will work together with a minimum of fuss. The folks who create the IDE/ATA standards always ensure backwards compatibility. This means that a drive corresponding to a newer standard will still work on an IDE channel in an older PC. Similarly, older drives will work on newer systems, in most cases. When older and newer hardware are mixed, the newer hardware will just run at whatever the maximum speed is of the older hardware. For example, suppose you want to use an older hard disk that does not support Ultra DMA, on a newer PC with Ultra DMA support. This will work fine, but the drive won't run at Ultra DMA speed. As a second example, suppose you want to install a new hard drive that runs Ultra DMA/100 on an older PC with a hard disk controller only supporting Ultra DMA/33. This will also work, but the drive's throughput will be limited to 33 MB/s. IDE hard drives are designed to be both backwards and forwards compatible. When you talk about a Wallstreet, you are referring to a 2.5-inch hard drive, not the 3.5-inch drives commonly found in desktop computers. With the exception of proprietary connectors from folks like Compaq, these are all interchangeable also. ATA-5 and ATA-6 use the same connector. In some cases a pin may be missing or the connectors might be color coded. It's no big deal. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_Cable.htm See this really good comprehensive tutorial: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/index.htm http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/unstd.htm FWIW every drive that I've bought for a PB over the past 4 years or so has been an IBM (now Hitachi) Travelstar. Every manufacturer will have bad drives from time to time. I like the Hitachi's 3-year warranty. Someone else (Maxtor?) has a 5-year warranty, but I'm partial to IBM/Hitachi. ZipZoomFly (formerly Googlegear) has been my vendor of choice for great prices and free 2nd-day delivery. YMMV, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ditching OS 9
A Quick Question... I finally have all the software needed for OS X and want to delete OS 9/Classic from my iBook. Is there any easy way to do this or is a clean install of X the way to go? Reinstalling X is not a huge issue, but if I can save a few hours, it'd be nice! Thanks for any advice y'all might have! Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ditching OS 9
on 30/04/05 00:00, Amanda Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Quick Question... I finally have all the software needed for OS X and want to delete OS 9/Classic from my iBook. Is there any easy way to do this or is a clean install of X the way to go? Reinstalling X is not a huge issue, but if I can save a few hours, it'd be nice! Thanks for any advice y'all might have! Amanda Is OS 9 installed on a separate partition or on the same partition than OS X? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] dinosaur n.: 1. Any hardware requiring raised flooring and special power. Used especially of old minis and mainframes, in contrast with newer microprocessor-based machines. In a famous quote from the 1988 Unix EXPO, Bill Joy compared the liquid-cooled mainframe in the massive IBM display with a grazing dinosaur with a truck outside pumping its bodily fluids through it. IBM was not amused. Compare big iron; see also mainframe. 2. [IBM] A very conservative user; a zipperhead. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---