Re: Meritline External Enclosure Help-Question

[John Acuff]

On Mar 26, 2004, at 9:02 PM, tivo wrote:

Tivo, if you don't have anything important on the external driver, you
can use Disk Utility to re-initiallise the hardrive and don't forget 
to
include the drivers for OS 9.
You mean to re-initialize the entire hard drive just for one driver? 
Is it
not just possible to install the driver to OS 9 so that it can read 
this
external drive? I've never done the re-initialization and am a bit 
reticent
unless I can't find an easier, simpler way.

BTW, I have an external Firewire 120G La Cie hooked up, and it 
automatically
functions in OSX.

I do use OS 9 because I'm writing a lengthy document and I prefer Word 
from
Office 2001 to Office X for this because of abilities with Thesaurus 
and
Spelling that were removed with Office X's Word. I loaded it from an 
old OS
9 back-up CD.

Would my old back-up CDs for OS 9 have the driver? And if so, could I 
get it
from there and use it? Would I find it in the same place as where this 
CD
driver went during installation -- >Systems>extensions?

Or would I need the installer to do this? (perhaps I also have it 
somewhere
on the old CDs? I tended to save the installers in the past... Not 
that I
knew why; just paranoid...
The way I understood this was that if you wanted to be able to read a 
drive or partition that has OS 9 on it (from OS X), you must install 
the OS 9 disc drivers when you install OS X. I don't know if it can be 
done after OS X installation or not. Again, I can't say positively that 
I'm remembering this correctly. If you have your OS X installation 
documentation handy, it might offer more info. Does your LaCie drive 
have OS 9 installed on it, or OS X? Or are you simply using it for data 
storage?

John

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Re: Meritline External Enclosure Help-Question

[John Acuff]

On Mar 26, 2004, at 7:10 PM, tivo wrote:

Yes, OSX is my usual OS, but the 6gig was formatted on, I believe, 
9.2. My
desktop now is OSX, where I thought the icon for the drive would 
appear, and
then when opened it would automatically open to OS9, but it hasn't 
appeared
at all.

It didn't appear initially, so that's when I installed the CD driver 
the
unit came with. Should I uninstall the driver, although I don't see 
what
that would do.

The unit lights up  and spins, yet no appearance of the icon on the 
destop
that I can see.

Unless you installed the OS 9 disc drivers when you installed OS X, you 
may be out of luck. I remember seeing something regarding this when 
I've done my OS X installs. As I recall, the gist was that you needed 
to install those drivers if you intended to read OS 9 discs from OS X. 
Or an OS 9 partition. I never worried about since I don't use Classic 
on any of my OS X machines. I'd take a look at Apple's support site for 
more info.

John

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Re: Trying to go wireless with Pismo

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On Mar 21, 2004, at 4:17 PM, Mike McGinnis wrote:

I am running  a Dell 1150 in my Lombard with a SMC router with no 
problems. I found even though this is a re-badged Orinoco Gold it will 
not work under airport software (OSX or OS9). The drivers I used is  
WirelessDriver Beta5 , http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver/ 
 .


True, I used the Orinoco drivers under OS 9 on my 3400 and Wallstreet. 
I plan to do the same on my G3 upgraded 1400. It's also running 9.

John

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Re: Trying to go wireless with Pismo

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On Mar 21, 2004, at 3:02 PM, DPrice wrote:

This is a 1150 card, said to be okay for Apple PB's.


I've used that card in a 3400 and a Wallstreet with no problems, but I 
never tried it under OS X. The Truemobile 1150 is a re-badged Orinoco 
Gold.

John

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Re: Backing Up Itunes Music to La Cie External

[John Acuff]

On Feb 15, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Hector I Macedo wrote:

TIVO SAID:  If I take the 6gig to a local Apple dealer, I guess that 
they'll insert the
HD into a vacant machine and then transfer it to the La Cie. The shop
charges $60 an hour. Any guesstimates about how much time it will take 
for
this to be done (so that I can figure costs)? Is there another way to 
do
this that is simpler? Thanks again, folks.  Tivo



Tivo,
If you get an USB 2.5 enclosure for about 20 bucks at Meritline.com 
you will not only solve the problem but you will have a handy portable 
hardrive.

Hector I. Macedo  "Lord of the 
Flies"
Another thing to keep in mind, is that if they are like most business's 
that charge by the hour, they will charge a minimum one hour regardless 
of the actual time spent.

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Re: Wallstreet fixed in the PDQ? What is the PDQ?

[John Acuff]

On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 01:54 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote:

Actually I haven't ever heard of wide spread sleep issues on WS PBs. 
However there was a hinge problem with them.

David

On Feb 1, 2004, at 12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the info about the Wallstreet 'sleep' problem. What's the 
PDQ?
Any other problems I should be aware of with this model of laptop?

Jocelyn
My 1st generation 233 (upgraded to 266) Wallstreet never had any sleep 
issues either. I know that some people who have upgraded  hard drives 
to newer, faster ones have had some problems due to the drive keeping 
the magnetic sleep switch on, but that can be corrected easily.

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Re: Personal LaserWriter LS on WallStreet

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On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 01:46 AM, John Acuff wrote:

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:13 PM, John Slavin wrote:

Well, it's definitely not postscript.  You can look here:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/laser.html

Under the language, it says quickdraw.

Compare that to my old 4/600, which notes that it is a postscript 
printer.  And If you look at the ports, while they look the same, as 
the applespec notes, one is a plain old serial, and the other on the 
4/600 is localtalk.  Admittedly, an ethernet port would be far 
superior, but at lest with the 4/600 you can use a cheap ethernet to 
localtalk bridge and print straight out of OSX.

One other thing you said confuses me.  You say to use gimp-print, you 
must had a postscript printer.  If you have a postscript printer, OSX 
should have the drivers anyway, apart from gimp-print.

True, however Gimp-print provides many more drivers than are included 
with OS X. But the printer still has to be Postscript. Tho there may 
be a way to use Ghostscript to make Postscript printers such as the 
PLW 300 work under X, but I don't know how.

Oops, make that "non-Postscript printers like the PLW 300". My 
bad..

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

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On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 08:35 PM, Robin Ashe wrote:

On 1/31/04 3:28 PM, "David M. Ensteness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But, as has been said, when Dell screws up, no
one cares.
I don't buy that. I think it's more likely that Mac users don't care 
or like
to think that PC users put up with crap so that they can feel better 
about
themselves.
You know, this really begs the question; if you are such a PC fan, what 
are you doing with a Mac in the first place? Maybe you should sell that 
Wallstreet to someone who would appreciate it, and buy yourself one of 
those "quality" Dell laptops. Then you can run your beloved Windows ME 
to your hearts content.

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Re: Personal LaserWriter LS on WallStreet

[John Acuff]

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:13 PM, John Slavin wrote:

Well, it's definitely not postscript.  You can look here:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/laser.html

Under the language, it says quickdraw.

Compare that to my old 4/600, which notes that it is a postscript 
printer.  And If you look at the ports, while they look the same, as 
the applespec notes, one is a plain old serial, and the other on the 
4/600 is localtalk.  Admittedly, an ethernet port would be far 
superior, but at lest with the 4/600 you can use a cheap ethernet to 
localtalk bridge and print straight out of OSX.

One other thing you said confuses me.  You say to use gimp-print, you 
must had a postscript printer.  If you have a postscript printer, OSX 
should have the drivers anyway, apart from gimp-print.

True, however Gimp-print provides many more drivers than are included 
with OS X. But the printer still has to be Postscript. Tho there may be 
a way to use Ghostscript to make Postscript printers such as the PLW 
300 work under X, but I don't know how.

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Re: Personal LaserWriter LS on WallStreet

[John Acuff]

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 11:14 AM, John Slavin wrote:

I'm getting to this discussion late, but I have a couple of 
observations.  First, I don't think the Personal Laserwriter LS is a 
localtalk printer, meaning it's a plain old serial printer.  Can you 
use this:

http://www.belkin.com/support/compatlists/F5U114-MAC.html
Yep, that will give you the physical connection, and will work fine 
under OS 9. I use one on my iMac (OS 9) to connect to my Newton, but it 
doesn't play well with OS X. For that (X), I use the Keyspan. But it 
still won't allow me to use my PLW 300. The deal-breaker here is that 
in order to use the old Apple printers, you have to use Gimp-print 
under OS X, and Gimp only works with Postscript printers. As I said 
before, I don't know if the LS is Postscript or not, but my 300 isn't. 
But if anybody knows of another way to do this, I'd love to hear about. 
Otherwise, I'll keep looking for one that's Postscript with ethernet.

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Re: Personal LaserWriter LS on WallStreet

[John Acuff]

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:36 AM, David M. Ensteness wrote:

AHAHAHAH, I have to tell you, I can't relate. That and there are ways 
to get a LocalTalk printer on an ethernet network ...

David

On Jan 31, 2004, at 12:32 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

Thanks. I guess I'll have to do a Dual Boot. My printer is too good 
to give
up for OS X.
I'd love to find a way to get my Personal Laserwriter 300 to work 
somehow with OS X, but I have yet to find a way. I wound up connecting 
it to my 5500 but my OS X machines can't find it on the network. From 
what I've read, unless it's a Postscript printer, (and I guess the PLW 
300 isn't) it won't work with OS X. I don't know if the LS is 
Postscript or not, but if it isn't you're out of luck.

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Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

[John Acuff]

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:53 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

On 1/30/04 9:30 PM, "David M. Ensteness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh? A CD design flaw. What was the flaw and what model we talking 
about
... ?
iMac Rev B. All the tray loading iMacs had this problem. They were very
fragile.
All tray loading iMacs? Hmmm, last time I checked, the drive in my 333 
iMac was still working fine. I know I'm not alone either..

 If the
design had been similar to most desktop PCs or Power Macs the drive 
could
have been taken out and sent in to be replaced instead of the whole
computer.
So you're saying that Apple should forget about cutting-edge designs 
and just build generic boxes like Gateway, eMachine, and Dell? Heaven 
forbid!

I ask because many Mac users like to complain and whine, thing
is, I don't believe that many of us realize how much better we have 
it.
That's because it really isn't any better. That's just a myth.
If that was the case, I would still be using Microshaft's crap! It took 
me a few years, but I finally got my head out of my rear long enough to 
find out that there were alternatives that were better.


I run Linux, Classic Mac OS, Windows, and Mac OS X.
I have to at one time or another, along with DOS and BeOS.
I have too. I started with DOS, went thru Winblows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 
and finally Win2k. I tried Linux, and BeOS, but guess were I wound up? 
Yep, OS X.

Windows lacks the ease of use
and the lack of hassle we are used to.
I find Windows to be just as easy to use and even more Hassle-free 
than my
Mac.
Winblows easy to use and hassle free?! Don't make me laugh! I've gotten 
BSOD's with Win2k, and it's supposed to be virtually crash-proof! Yeah. 
Right...
Life has been so much better since I've been running OS X and Macs, 
than it ever was when I was using PC's. It's so nice to be able to 
simply use my computer and not have to constantly dick around with it 
just to keep it operating. My lone PC running Win2k still resets itself 
for no discernible reason whenever it feels like it. And It's been 
scanned on numerous occasions for viruses, as well as any other 
hardware/software problems to no avail. My OS X machines will run for 
weeks with ever having an OS crash or needing to be re-booted.
Easy and hassle-free? You bet!

And in our happy little world,
many of us just forget.
I wouldn't call it a happy little world. I just had a call to fix an 
old
lady's iMac. It was a minor issue, but it certainly proved that the 
Mac OS
wasn't any easier or more intuitive to use than Windows.
At least we don't have to worry about every virus scare that comes 
along, as well as the "Security Update de-jour".


I don't tend to use much in the
way of warrantees because I am a to it yourself'er, I have a bit of
formal training, working on some more, and have been working in the
tech support industry for several years now. I figure I have more time
than money. But warrantees are a good thing. And no one is giving me a
warrantee on the 4-8 year old hardware I have around in my workshop.
Yes, but it's unlikely that you would need one either. Old Apple 
hardware
was actually built to last. There's a reason they have a reputation for
quality, and it seems to me that the iBook issue is just one of many 
with
which they are slowly losing that reputation. I'd feel comfortable 
buying an
old Mac, but I'd be very wary of plunking my hard earned cash down for 
a new
one.

Like Apple is the only computer company that has occasional hardware 
problems? Yeah, right. Not!! Why do you think companies like Dell and 
Gateway have so many people in tech support? It sure isn't because they 
build such high quality machines! Believe me, I wouldn't trade any of 
my Macs for the most high-end new Dell, Gateway, HP, or any other PC, 
any time, any way.
What it boils down to is the fact that the average PC user has been 
brainwashed to believe that mediocrity is the status quo, so they don't 
expect anything better. However, the average Mac user expects much 
more. So when Apple does happen to drop the ball, the lynch mob forms 
up. If it were Dell, nobody would give it a second thought...

But that's just my opinion, and all I'll say on this topic. Oh, and for 
the record, I have an  700 Mhz iBook with a serial number in the range 
in question..

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Re: panther, safari, and my Ibook

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On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 05:37 PM, Dreams in Digital wrote:

why does safari in panther not work? in jaguar, my ibook with safari 
screamed, now, it locks up? I read alot of these "solutions", but I 
dont even have the font they say needs erasing, so any new thoughts on 
how to fix it, I hate using IE, esp since i cant find a popup blocker 
for it
I don't know what to tell you about your problem with Safari, but I 
also use Mozilla and Firebird. I've had good luck with both. They both 
have pop-up blockers and tabbed browsing. Firebird is pretty fast too.

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O/T DVD-RAM?

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I know this is a bit o/t for this list, but I don't have any other 
place to ask.
I am considering buying a G4/450 (Sawtooth) with a DVD-RAM drive to 
replace my trusty B&W G3/350. I am not familiar with this format, but 
according to the research I have done so far, DVD-RAM is pretty much a 
dead issue, so am I correct in assuming that I can still use this drive 
to play regular DVD's and CD's, but the recording side will be pretty 
much useless?
Thanks!

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Re: Hard drive recommendations?

[John Acuff]

On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 02:26 PM, James Rohde wrote:

On 12/27/03, John Acuff wrote:
The HD in my recently acquired Icebook just died, and I need to get
a replacement. I would like to get a 30-40 gig drive. What brands 
or
particular drives would you recommend? I have not needed to buy a
new drive in a while, so I don't really have any idea what to be
looking for. I have noticed that most of the junk drives I have
laying around are Western Digital, but these are older desktop
drives. I've noticed that the IBM Travelstar drives are mentioned
here quite often. Are they a good choice?

The Travelstars (from IBM/Hitachi, either appears to be good) or the
Toshibas both have been praised. I plan on getting a Toshiba, but 
mainly
because (right now) the Toshibas in the size I'm looking at have a 
larger
buffer on them (for the price). Both types of drives use the fluid
bearings, which will give you a quiet drive (important in some
environments).

Well, I had been all set to buy a Travelstar, until I opened my iBook 
and saw what brand the recently replaced/recently died 20 gig drive 
was. Unfortunately it was a Hitachi. Now I'm not sure what to get. 
Maybe the Toshiba, they're Apple OEM.
Also, I had been looking at going with a 5400 rpm drive as a good 
compromise between speed and battery life, but apparently the fastest 
30 gig drive is 4200 rpm. So if I want a 5400, I guess that means going 
with a 40 gig. I was looking at Pricewatch.com, and I found that there 
is only about $20-$25 difference between the 30/4200 and the 40/5400. 
Since I plan to use this machine for a long time, I figure I'll go with 
the 40/5400. Now I just need to decide on a brand and a vendor.

John

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Hard drive recommendations?

[John Acuff]

The HD in my recently acquired Icebook just died, and I need to get a 
replacement. I would like to get a 30-40 gig drive. What brands or 
particular drives would you recommend? I have not needed to buy a new 
drive in a while, so I don't really have any idea what to be looking 
for. I have noticed that most of the junk drives I have laying around 
are Western Digital, but these are older desktop drives. I've noticed 
that the IBM Travelstar drives are mentioned here quite often. Are they 
a good choice? How about drive speed? Where is a good place to get one 
at a decent price? (other than eBay)
Thanks!

John

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Wallstreet video problem

[John Acuff]

Got a problem. I sold my Wallstreet, and the guy received it today, but 
he says that it is having problems with the video. I never had any 
video problems at all during the time I was using it. The only problems 
I had were a dead Pram battery which I replaced, and a bad main battery 
which I also replaced. I was using the machine right up until I shut it 
down to pack it in the box. I made sure to pack it with plenty of 
padding, but is it possible that something video-related might have 
gotten jarred loose during shipping? He says that the screen jumps up 
and down crazily, and gets alternately light and dark. What should be 
at the bottom of the screen shows up at the top.
Fortunately, I had it insured, but I'm sure he would much rather have 
the working machine. Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong?
Thanks!

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Re: Panther's performance on a Wallstreet?

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On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 02:23 AM, Bob wrote:

Some people have been mentioning that Panther is notably quicker and
even "zippier" as one said.  However, I have a Wallstreet with a
Sonnet G4 500 card upgrade.  Anyone know how Panther would perform on
this  compared to what I have now, 10.2.6? Will it actually run
faster?
I remember people mentioning how Jaguar was improving in performance
(speed) with each update, but I never noticed.
The main problem is that Panther won't run on a Wallstreet. At least 
not out of the box. According to Apple, Panther won't run on any 
machine that was not originally equipped with USB. That leaves 
Wallstreet's out, as well as Beige G3's. Which is one of the reasons 
that I am selling my Wallstreet.
However, according to OWC, a future version of XPostfacto may allow 
these machines to use Panther too. For more info on XPostfacto, go to 
www.macsales.com and click on the "OS X Center" tab.

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Re: iTunes Music Store problem

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On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Scott Crick wrote:

On 11/2/03 11:25 PM, "John Acuff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does 
iTunes
figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour searching
the Knowledge Base with no answers.
Really strange, off-the-wall guess, but: what time zone do you have 
set in
your "Date & Time" preference panel?

i thought of that. One machine is set to Indianapolis, the other 
doesn't show Indy, so I have it set to Cleveland, since we are on 
Eastern time here now.

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Re: iTunes Music Store problem

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On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:44 AM, NIKON'S WORLD wrote:

On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 11:25  PM, John Acuff wrote:

Has anybody else (in the US) ran into this?
I just installed iTunes 4.1, and when I started iTunes and went to 
the Music Store, I got a message saying that "the iTunes Music Store 
is not yet available in your country." Huh!? Since when is it not 
available in the US? (I'm in Indiana.) I never got this message under 
4.0. I'm running 10.2.8, and I have never bought any songs or set up 
an account with the IMS yet.
Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does 
iTunes figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour 
searching the Knowledge Base with no answers.

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I'm not sure why you got that message, but it is working fine in KS.

FWIW, I also got it on my B&W running 10.2.8 and iTunes 4.0. And I know 
that I've went to the Music Store and browsed on that machine without 
ever getting this message.

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iTunes Music Store problem

[John Acuff]

Has anybody else (in the US) ran into this?
I just installed iTunes 4.1, and when I started iTunes and went to the 
Music Store, I got a message saying that "the iTunes Music Store is not 
yet available in your country." Huh!? Since when is it not available in 
the US? (I'm in Indiana.) I never got this message under 4.0. I'm 
running 10.2.8, and I have never bought any songs or set up an account 
with the IMS yet.
Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does iTunes 
figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour searching 
the Knowledge Base with no answers.

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Re: VPC 6 on a Pismo/400

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On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 08:16 AM, Jason Long wrote:

Has anyone had success running Virtual PC 6 on a Pismo? Microsoft says 
a minimum rating of 500 MHz is necessary, and that upgrades are not 
supported, but my Pismo is only a 400 MHz and I need to run some PC 
programs.

I'm using Panther, which I really like, but Thoth 1.7.1 and Reunion 
8.04 now have some stability problems. While infrequent enough to be 
only mildly annoying has anyone else had any problem with these 
programs after upgrading.
It's not a Pismo, but FWIW, I am running VPC 6 on my B&W 400, running 
Jag. I installed Win98, altho I have Win2k. I figured 2k would be a bit 
too much. It's not exactly speedy, but I'm a bit light on RAM in that 
machine. Then again, I don't think I've ever heard anyone use the term 
"fast" to describe VPC.

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Re: 15" Ti-Bk S-Video Out problem

[John Acuff]

On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 10:07 PM, Michelle Klein-Hass wrote:

On Saturday 01 November 2003 06:52 pm, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
When I play a DVD on the Ti-Bk and send the signal out to the TV, the
contrast on the TV changes continually - almost a fading in/out 
effect.

Any thoughts? A weird copy protction scheme?

Thanks

Frank
Yeah, probably.  It happens with a Comcrap laptop we have, too.  And
it also happens if you hook up most DVD players to a VCR and thence
to a TV (like when a TV only has an F-type coax RF-in so you need to
use a VCR to act as an RCA->RF converter).
That's Macrovision. Thank the MPAA for that. Lousy rotten oligarchs...
-.\\<-H-
Actually, you can thank Congress for that. They were the ones that 
passed the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act), under the strong 
influence of the MPAA, and the RIAA. Possibly the most flawed piece of 
legislation in recent history. If everyone called their Congressmen 
(and women) and bitched loud and long about it, we might be able to get 
something done to change things. Until then, this is the kind of crap 
we have to live with.
And the rich get richer

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Re: Lombard battery

[John Acuff]

On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 09:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

After the "Time Remaining" in the Control Strip goes down to 0:00, I 
still
get another 20 to 30 minutes of battery life.  I'm running OS 9 on a 
333mhz
Lombard.  It's not really a problem but kind of annoying.  I haven't 
noticed
any of that before, although it was probably just because I haven't 
been
paying much attention to it.  Does anybody else have that problem?  I'm
going to upgrade to OS X sometime during the next month (when I have 
time)
so I'm hoping that will solve the problem.
I'm having just the opposite problem on my Wallstreet. The control 
strip will say I have 2hrs and odd minutes, and within a few seconds, 
the screen will dim, and the "battery warning" will pop up, and a few 
seconds later it will shut itself down. I go from maybe 2.5 hours down 
to nothing in minutes. And that's with no CD-rom, modem, or ethernet 
use. I have used battery reset many times and it doesn't make any 
difference. Oh yes, when it shuts down like this, if I press the button 
on the battery, I get one flashing LED, so it seems like the computer 
isn't properly reading the battery.

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Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement

[John Acuff]

On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 04:34 AM, Illovox Media wrote:

on 10/28/03 10:50 PM, John Acuff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I love Apple too, and OS X, and I would never want to have to go
back to the  PC (Winblows) world I used to live in, but this is one
time that I really wish that Apple had done things differently. And 
I'm
looking at the same thing all over again with Panther. I just finally
get a Powerbook (Wallstreet) capable of running X, and I won't be able
to run the latest version on it. And my Beige G3 is of course left 
out.
What will it be next version? Native G4 machines  only?
Just my .02
John,

My feeling is that what you are asking is like hoping that Ford will 
design
a 2004 Mustang with all new engine, amenities and traction but can 
also use
1966 Mustang wheels and tires because you already bought them and they 
are
just sitting in your garage doing nothing.

Solution to the car dilemma:  Ride the classic boat and take pride in 
it.

Solution to the computer dilemma:  Ride the classic boat and take 
pride in
it.
Nope. Totally different analogy. The point I'm trying to make is, that 
if it was more important to Apple to get people using the new OS, than 
to get them to buy new equipment, they would have written serial port 
support into the OS. Instead, they chose to obsolete a whole slew of 
peripherals that thousands of people had, in some cases, hundreds of 
dollars invested in. Then Jobs couldn't seem to understand why folks 
weren't dumping OS 9 in droves and migrating to OS X. I personally 
couldn't wait until I got my Beige G3/333, so that I could finally run 
X. I was so hyped to try it after reading all the reviews and seeing 
the cool screenshots. Got it installed and booted into X for the first 
time, sweet!! Yeah, my floppy drive didn't work anymore, but so what? 
The only thing I ever used it for was to install software, and there 
was no software for OS X on floppy anyway. No big loss. Then I realized 
that I wasn't going to be able to print from X because it didn't see my 
serial port. Oops! Didn't know about that. I guess it's back to 9 to 
print! Hmm, that means my digital camera isn't going to work anymore 
either. Of course iPhoto doesn't support my Agfa camera anyway, so once 
again, back to 9! But yet all my old ADB stuff still works under X. If 
they can support ADB, why not serial? Answer; they could have if Jobs 
had wanted it. Funny thing tho, when Jag came out, and I had installed 
it on both G3's, one of my apps that used the serial ports on my 
Keyspan adapter on my B&W, was able to see the built-in serial port on 
my Beige G3. It couldn't under 10.1. I still haven't quite figured that 
one out. Of course my Laserwriter and my camera still wouldn't work.

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Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement

[John Acuff]

On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 12:28 AM, David M. Ensteness wrote:

On Oct 28, 2003, at 6:20 PM, Krevnik wrote:

Nope, sorry... don't buy that. There is an ATIRagePro.kext and 
ATIRageProGA.plugin (2D acceleration) and the GA plug wasn't even 
activated for the Lombard until 10.2.4, you needed a hack before 
that. The RagePro.kext refers to a non-existant ATIRageProGL.bundle 
for OpenGL acceleration. There is no 3D acceleration for the Rage Pro 
chips. The 128 Pro is NOT the same as the Rage Pro, but newer and 
appeared in the Pismos.


Another fact that is neglected. Apple did not write the ATi drivers 
for the ATi chipsets. ATi did, this is true of Classic Mac OS and Mac 
OS X. At the time, before the 10.1.5 update was released, people 
complained it was Apple not choosing to support it to "force" them to 
go buy new Macs. This argument gets brought up a lot, its generally 
false although I am sure there are cases when it is true.

Now, regarding video support. It is my understanding from a lot of 
reading I have done that the RagePro and RageII chipsets never did 
OpenGL under Mac OS 8 or 9, they did RAVE. At the time RAVE and GLIDE 
[from 3dfx] were competing and OpenGL was starting to enter the fray. 
Since none of us know the exact facts, think about this once and see 
if its not reasonable.

Apple sells a Mac, it has a chipset from a third party in it. The 
third party includes driver support. Apple puts out new system 
software, the third party doesn't update their driver. Its the third 
party's fault right? So according to that we should blame ATi. 
However, what if the chipset can't do the stuff we want it to do, ie, 
what if it can not support OpenGL acceleration. Whose fault is it 
then? Apple for embracing OpenGL in OS X? ATi for not making a fully 
compliant OpenGL graphics chipset? Sadly, somethings are not anyone's 
fault, they just are, and they are often things we don't like.

Is what I just proposed true? We don't know. However, its just as 
likely true as the complaints are so it deserves equal consideration.

But Apple does have control where the "serial port issue" was 
concerned.  And they chose not to write support for the serial port 
into the OS. And this was a major issue to a lot of people. Especially 
those who had big bucks wrapped up in peripherals (laser printers, 
scanners, cameras, modems) that suddenly wouldn't work anymore. Our 
only other choice was to trash our serial stuff, buy a USB card and USB 
peripherals, and hope they had drivers for X. Look how long it took to 
get scanners that would work under X! I personally have a perfectly 
good Personal Laserwriter that was only usable on my Beige G3 by going 
into Classic and printing what I had done in X. Not exactly user 
friendly. Many of us kept hoping against hope that eventually Apple 
would "do the right thing", and add serial port support into a revision 
at some point so that we would finally be able to use our investment in 
peripherals again, but by 10.2, I knew it wasn't going to happen and 
bought a B&W and a cheap USB printer. Still, every time I look at that 
Laserwriter sitting there collecting dust, I get a frustrated feeling.
Yes, I love Apple too, and OS X, and I would never want to have to go 
back to the  PC (Winblows) world I used to live in, but this is one 
time that I really wish that Apple had done things differently. And I'm 
looking at the same thing all over again with Panther. I just finally 
get a Powerbook (Wallstreet) capable of running X, and I won't be able 
to run the latest version on it. And my Beige G3 is of course left out. 
What will it be next version? Native G4 machines  only?
Just my .02

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Kanga won't boot (GLOD?)

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New list-member here with a dead Kanga. I bought this unit non-working. 
I had hoped that it was something minor, and maybe I could combine 
parts between it and my 3400c to make a good working G3 'Book. I tried 
all kinds of different tricks to get it to boot. I did get it to start 
to boot once, but it froze at the start-up screen and I have not been 
able to repeat. The screen stays black and no chime. I read somewhere 
that the power management board may be bad, so I bought one from eBay 
that was supposed to be a good one. Since I have installed it, I still 
get nothing. The 'Book does not respond at all to the power button on 
the keyboard, but if I push the reset button on the back, the green 
light on the lid comes on. If I push it again, I hear a click sound and 
the light goes off. I have tried leaving out the battery, closing the 
lid, and holding the reset button in for 30 seconds, then connecting 
the ac adapter and pushing the power button, but still nothing. From 
what I can tell, the PRAM battery is okay. I can pull the main battery 
and disconnect the ac adapter and the green light on the lid will stay 
on. I know the adapter is good, because I am using it with my 3400c.
I really would love to get this machine working so I can finally step 
up to a G3 'Book, but I already have almost $200 invested as well as 
lots of time trying to figure it out. Maybe I should just cut my 
losses, and sell it for whatever I can get and use the proceeds to buy 
a clamshell iBook?
I'm hoping someone might be able to give me some idea where to go from 
here.
Thanks!
John

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Re: Kanga won't boot (GLOD?)

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On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 02:57 AM, Graham Wallis wrote:

Are you trying to boot from a system disk or the internal hard drive?
If you haven't tried it already try booting from a CD with an OS on it.
Graham

Trying to boot from the hard drive. I can't get the CD drive to open.
John
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Re: Kanga won't boot (GLOD?)

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On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:45 AM, Clark Martin wrote:


I think the first thing to try is to open it up, remove all the major 
internal parts and inspect them for obvious defects.  Then re-assemble 
them.  This also reseats the connectors which is a possible fix for 
your problem.  But don't reconnect the HD and leave the memory module 
(if any) out (there is 32Mb on the MB).  Leave the battery and media 
bay empty.  Then try resetting the power manager and starting up.  I 
forget if this makes a difference or not but try holding the reset 
button down and then hitting power (with the AC Adapter connected).
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I have had it mostly apart, but I have not totally stripped it yet. As 
soon as I have time, I will try that. So far, I have tried every 
combination of ac adapter, battery in/out, reset in/out, 
remove-all-power-hold-reset-30-seconds, etc.
I really want to move up to a G3 laptop, but I'm starting the think 
this one isn't going to be the one..
John

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