Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
Speaking of BTO displays... Apple Computer may be planning to offer PowerBooks with higher density displays, and may have intended to do so with its latest PowerBook offerings, tipsters tell AppleInsider. http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=886 Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money doing things this way. This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well, call it 5.5 with the eMac, but I expect the eMac is on it's way out. I am not that familiar with Apple's middle years in terms of offered products, but practically all the lines right now (iMac, iBook, Power Mac, PowerBook) feature many models (usually differing by screen size), each one available in one or more configurations (also true with Mac mini and eMac, I believe). iPod line is getting more and more bloated as well. Is it really any better than before and than what other companies are offering? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On 2/16/05 10:12 AM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money doing things this way. This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well, call it 5.5 with the eMac, but I expect the eMac is on it's way out. I am not that familiar with Apple's middle years in terms of offered products, but practically all the lines right now (iMac, iBook, Power Mac, PowerBook) feature many models (usually differing by screen size), each one available in one or more configurations (also true with Mac mini and eMac, I believe). iPod line is getting more and more bloated as well. Is it really any better than before and than what other companies are offering? You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one basic computer model with more than 10 different variations sporting different software packs, hard drive and optical variations, and even what retailer sells the bloody thing. Compared to this, Apple's offerings are quite narrow. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one basic computer model with more than 10 different variations sporting different software packs, hard drive and optical variations, and even what retailer sells the bloody thing. Bloat or consumer choice: it's a subtle distinction ;-) TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I am not that familiar with Apple's middle years in terms of offered products, but practically all the lines right now (iMac, iBook, Power Mac, PowerBook) feature many models (usually differing by screen size), each one available in one or more configurations (also true with Mac mini and eMac, I believe). iPod line is getting more and more bloated as well. Is it really any better than before and than what other companies are offering? If you don't know about the Performa Years then the current situation could seem unruly, yes. Apple offers two model lines: 2 ibooks that use many common components, and three powerbooks, which also use many common components. IBM has four product lines in the think pad series, offering a bunch of different configurations in each, although each model uses common components. Dell offers 4 'Inspiron' laptops, all different styles, 4 Latitude models, in two different styles and 2 Precision models (only one style). Apple has a simpler model line than any other major manufacturer out there. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one basic computer model with more than 10 different variations sporting different software packs, hard drive and optical variations, and even what retailer sells the bloody thing. Bloat or consumer choice: it's a subtle distinction ;-) No, it isn't. Bloat is quite obvious to see. This is one reason HP just fired their CEO, the disarray of their PC business. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 4:42 pm -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one basic computer model with more than 10 different variations sporting different software packs, hard drive and optical variations, and even what retailer sells the bloody thing. Bloat or consumer choice: it's a subtle distinction ;-) No, it isn't. Bloat is quite obvious to see. This is one reason HP just fired their CEO, the disarray of their PC business. I was (not very seriously) alluding to the OP of this thread, who called for Apple to offer alternative port locations on PBs. Sounds like HP's product line-up is exactly what he's looking for. Come to think of it - Steve and Carly: it's a match made in heaven... TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
Re. BTO Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!! At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvious Apple has done the right thing. Look at a Dell and see what the BTO concept has done for their range of laptops, they're shit!! Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers. They even let you choose the built-in pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND the touchpad. Apple is getting better with video options on the 15 PowerBook, but for the most part they come one way. Yes, the Apple laptops are very well integrated, but pick up a ThinkPad T42 and you will see the same build quality and integration. IBM used to even give you the option of Linux instead of Windows, not sure if they still do that or not. Using the car analogy that is so common, if Apple is selling BMW, comparing to Dell you are comparing to Chevrolet, while IBM would represent Mercedes. I have (and currently) own both Apple and IBM laptops, and there are honestly things that I like better about each, not to mention a few areas in which IBM's design is better than Apple's. For example, hinges. Any long time Apple laptop owner has likely had issues with hinges. My current 12 PowerBook is great, but my last 12 POwerBook, while not loose, tended to bind a bit (new is smooth as glass). Titanium PB hinges flat-out break, as do those on Wallstreets, while Lombard and Pismo hinges just get loose. I've owned four ThinkPads over the years, and every single one of them had firm, smooth and sturdy hinges that held up to hard use. IBM's current T-series are very thin and light, weighing about the same as my 12 PowerBook and being just as thin, though with a 14 screen and a swappable drive bay that takes a second battery. That is great design, though Apple's trade-off is the wonderful slot-loading drive, which if they put their design emphasis on it, could probably be made to work in a removable bay, which could probably be crammed into the current form-fact. What I'm saying is that Apple's design, while up there with the very best in the industry, is not THE BEST in every area. Other companies (Sony, Toshiba to name two) also have design elements in their laptops that are innovative and superior. As Mac users we have it pretty good, but the fact that so many people here hang on to their Pismo and Lombard models makes it pretty clear that people value removable drives and multiple battery capability. Starting with the Titanium, Apple abandoned those features, while IBM continues to improve them with every revision to their T-series ThinkPad. Andrew On 2/15/05 9:26 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re. BTO Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!! At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvious Apple has done the right thing. Look at a Dell and see what the BTO concept has done for their range of laptops, they're shit!! Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On 15/02/05 12:44, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers. They even let you choose the built-in pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND the touchpad. Is this the reason why they sold their PC division to a Chinese company because it was not profitable? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. ThinkPads have always been profitable, but my take is that IBM wants to sell eCommerce solutions, which laptop and desktop PCs don't really fit into. Andrew On 2/15/05 9:47 AM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/02/05 12:44, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers. They even let you choose the built-in pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND the touchpad. Is this the reason why they sold their PC division to a Chinese company because it was not profitable? -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand for five years to come. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote: I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand for five years to come. Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity. Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are already made in China) and keep the same philosophy. I know they also got the IBM designers and engineers, so with any luck, nothing will change. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
OT - Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
Just looked it up. Lenova has a 5-year-license on the Think names, including ThinkPad, and that is renewable. Also, IBM will continue to sell the machine, only Lenovo will be the primary manufacturer (IBM owns an 18% stake in Lenovo. There will still be IBM ThinkPads for years to come, but there will also be Lenovo ThinkPads, most likely sold in China and Asia, with the IBM models continuing in the US and Europe. This is a merger, not strictly a sale, kind of like the HP/Compaq merger. We still have iPaqs, only they are called HP iPaqs now. Hopefully that means that nothing will really change, if the IBM press release can be believed. Check it out at http://www1.ibm.com/press/PressServletForm.wss?TemplateName=ShowPressRele aseTemplateSelectString=t1.docunid=7450 Andrew On 15 Feb 2005 at 12:01, Andrew wrote: On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote: I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand for five years to come. Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity. Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are already made in China) and keep the same philosophy. I know they also got the IBM designers and engineers, so with any luck, nothing will change. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Andrew F. wrote: Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers. They even let you choose the built-in pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND the touchpad. And IBM lost money on their PC business for the last how many quarters? -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:01 PM, Andrew wrote: Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity. Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are already made in China) and keep the same philosophy. I know they also got the IBM designers and engineers, so with any luck, nothing will change. Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money doing things this way. This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well, call it 5.5 with the eMac, but I expect the eMac is on it's way out. I remember shopping for a laptop for out College Dean a few years back trying to sort out IBM's offerings. Whatta mess. (he's now supposed to get his 12 Powerbook any day now...) Dell and Gateway are much the same: an assortment of boxes all slightly different. NO one, it seems truly learned the Performa Lesson except Apple. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
The expense is not going to be that high, since Apple can mass produce. As I said before, I'd pay extra just to have a BTO for the features I need. What would be nice is dual expansion bays and ports on the back. Not asking for too much, is it? With today's technology, third party companies would have a field day with expansion bays being available on new PowerBooks. For the most part, in my opinion, a BTO means build to order. What is actually happening though, is not BTO. It's like buying a car with or without a stereo. Nothing is changed, just simply added or subtracted. If I want a BTO, then I want a BTO. . .know what I mean? But your BTO requires redesigning the whole computer from ground up: there's no place for expansion bays, nor there is for back ports with current hinge design. It's not as simple as adding Bluetooth or AirPort Extreme. I'd love to see a good dock (possibly integrated with a stand), and two USB ports on each side. But I will give Apple the benefit of the doubt and presume this is much more difficult to engineer than me or others can think... let alone offering computers with vastly different characteristics, as you propose. Besides, I'm not sure anyone wants the return of the Sculley era with gazillions of models hard to tell apart. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it outside on daily basis. I know I do and if you ask me, thumbs up for side ports. Couldn't live without them now. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. Uh ?! It has the smae keyboard as the 12 and the 15, full size, and the best PowerBook keyboard ever made!! IMO. I have a 12 and a 15 Alu. --- not to mention ports on the side. So that you don't have to turn the thing upside down everytime you want to plu/unplug something. Comparing my Alu Books to my 550 and 667DVI TiBooks, there's no competition. The AluBook is the best ever portable. Planning to buy a new 15 with illuminated keyboard :o) (my wife has the student discount!!) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. Fine but the PowerBook is a portable and is designed around the concept of people moving it around, unplugging/plugging in, so if some people never move it off the desk that doesn't make it a poor design as a stationary computer, it is a PORTABLE computer... My 14 öre's worth... (about 20¢) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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FireWire drive so I can just stay sitting and easily plug and unplug those... Not to mention my friend that while trying to figure out where the serial port was (well it was 1994 and the Mac a PB 160 and the ADB and serial where very similar) felt over the desk and broke the screen... I was there and... if only cell phone with video recorder where available... I would had won the Pulizer... Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 4:12 am -0800, Zoltan Batiz wrote: I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? I agree with you about the practicality of the ports; I'm a Pismo owner, but recently borrowed a 15 PB for a couple of weeks while the pismo was being repaired. Of course the newer PB is a lovely machine in most respects, but those cables sticking out of the side, right where I wanted to put books and papers, really irritated me. But given the screen hinge design, it's hard to see what they could do... TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (Guess where I come in on this argument grin) But the one thing I do not understand is letting the port placement be the deal stopper in buying a new PowerBook. As for the keyboardthat is a decision of economy. Selling three models of PowerBooks and having the keyboard be interchangeable keeps costs down. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (Guess where I come in on this argument grin) But the one thing I do not understand is letting the port placement be the deal stopper in buying a new PowerBook. As for the keyboardthat is a decision of economy. Selling three models of PowerBooks and having the keyboard be interchangeable keeps costs down. The only complaint I have about port placement is that there is one USB port on each side not together. I have an external USB drive that takes power from 2 USB ports. It can be used on the TiBook but not on my AlBook. The special cable doesn't reach to both sides. Why couldn't the keep them together like on the Ti? John *--- A Thought for the Day * Jean Kerr wrote, If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, it's just possible you haven't grasped the situation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (Guess where I come in on this argument grin) All of this could be eliminated with a properly designed docking port located on the bottom of the computer... *sigh* Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Marcin Wichary wrote: It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it outside on daily basis. I know I do and if you ask me, thumbs up for side ports. Couldn't live without them now. Really? Guess that makes you on eof the 'living dead' for the past three years or so (when side ports started being used)? ;-) -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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For actually using in multiple locations and the frequent set-up and take-down that entails, Apple's current design is about the best I've come across. I especially like the slot-loading drives (side mounted like on the 12 please) which is just the best when using the computer anyplace OTHER THAN a roomy desk. Andrew On 13 Feb 2005 at 10:01, Marcin Wichary wrote: Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it outside on daily basis. I know I do and if you ask me, thumbs up for side ports. Couldn't live without them now. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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The 12 is really better in this area, which ALL ports on the left, and only the optical drive slot on the right. Andrew On 13 Feb 2005 at 10:55, John McGibney wrote: On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (Guess where I come in on this argument grin) But the one thing I do not understand is letting the port placement be the deal stopper in buying a new PowerBook. As for the keyboardthat is a decision of economy. Selling three models of PowerBooks and having the keyboard be interchangeable keeps costs down. The only complaint I have about port placement is that there is one USB port on each side not together. I have an external USB drive that takes power from 2 USB ports. It can be used on the TiBook but not on my AlBook. The special cable doesn't reach to both sides. Why couldn't the keep them together like on the Ti? John *--- A Thought for the Day * Jean Kerr wrote, If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, it's just possible you haven't grasped the situation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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It is also probably the best keyboard that Apple has ever put on a laptop. Actually, it may be the best that ANYONE has ever put on a laptop, with only IBM ThinkPads giving it any real competition. I think looking back, the best-feeling keyboard (nice action, few typos, high speed) was on my old THinkPad 600 back around 1998 or so. A friend has the new ThinkPad T42 and I'd call it a toss-up with the current POwerBook. Keys are a bit springier on the ThinkPad, but a bit better shaped on the PowerBook (except for the arrow and function keys, which are a bit larger on the IBM. Us PowerBookers have never had it this good, at least as far as keyboards go. Andrew On 13 Feb 2005 at 10:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (Guess where I come in on this argument grin) But the one thing I do not understand is letting the port placement be the deal stopper in buying a new PowerBook. As for the keyboardthat is a decision of economy. Selling three models of PowerBooks and having the keyboard be interchangeable keeps costs down. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] But given the screen hinge design, it's hard to see what they could do... Shows they've learned something from the TiBook hinges, and G3s for that matter. The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only complaint I have about port placement is that there is one USB port on each side not together. One of the coolest features IMO and experience, suits me! Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 9:53 pm +0100, Larry le Mac wrote: The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. As Mao said of the French Revolution, too early to say :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how sexy my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting to comment... --- Apple should offer different layouts for each PB and iBook. There must be some simple course in design/production/costs that you could take which would highlight the flaw... --- Who cares about cost. Uh, about 90% of customers... Me included. --- My Pismo is my desktop computer AND my portable computer for those rare times I have to go out in the field. until Apple comes out with a better PowerBook Well, you're the one losing out. I love my 12 and 15 AlBooks, and I've had every model of PowerBook incl. the portable, apart from a 2400... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Feb 13, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how sexy my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting to comment... --- Apple should offer different layouts for each PB and iBook. There must be some simple course in design/production/costs that you could take which would highlight the flaw... --- Who cares about cost. Uh, about 90% of customers... Me included. --- My Pismo is my desktop computer AND my portable computer for those rare times I have to go out in the field. until Apple comes out with a better PowerBook Well, you're the one losing out. I love my 12 and 15 AlBooks, and I've had every model of PowerBook incl. the portable, apart from a 2400... Larry Larry, On the comment of cost. . .I wasn't talking about the end product cost, I was talking about manufacturing cost that Apple would have to shell out, hence the remark to how much $$ they have made on iPod/iTunes Music Store just in the last year. Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the comment of cost. . .I wasn't talking about the end product cost, I was talking about manufacturing cost that Apple would have to shell out, hence the remark to how much $$ they have made on iPod/iTunes Music Store just in the last year. I've got one word, er sign... % Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can't depend on us to buy a new one every six months to keep them in business. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Feb 13, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can't depend on us to buy a new one every six months to keep them in business. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney The expense is not going to be that high, since Apple can mass produce. As I said before, I'd pay extra just to have a BTO for the features I need. What would be nice is dual expansion bays and ports on the back. Not asking for too much, is it? With today's technology, third party companies would have a field day with expansion bays being available on new PowerBooks. For the most part, in my opinion, a BTO means build to order. What is actually happening though, is not BTO. It's like buying a car with or without a stereo. Nothing is changed, just simply added or subtracted. If I want a BTO, then I want a BTO. . .know what I mean? Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
on 12/02/05 23:12, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) I went from a Pismo to a 17 and I think I actually prefer the ports on the side. Whenever you make a connection, you don't have to get behind the PowerBook, or stand up above it to see where you're plugging the connector. As for the keyboard, I think it's a big improvement over the Pismo's keyboard. It's seems a little stiffer which I do like since I kinda of punch the keys maybe harder than the average people. Plus, don't forget that the space on each side of the keyboard is used to house the speakers and the microphone. Don't hold your breath for the G5 PowerBooks, you could die of suffocation... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] frag n.,v.: [from Vietnam-era U.S. military slang via the games Doom and Quake] 1. To kill another player's avatar in a multiuser game. I hold the office Quake record with 40 frags. 2. To completely ruin something. Forget that power supply, the lightning strike fragged it. See also gib. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I use mine mostly as a portable (hence choosing the 12 over the 15 or 17), and rarely plug anything in at all, except for my iPod, camera or AC power. I never really got the whole desktop replacement thing. If I want to work at my desk, that's what my desktop Power Mac is for, which easily plays nice with my PowerBook using the PB in target disk mode. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
on 12/02/05 23:44, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. That's maybe the reason why we have different opinions; I take my PowerBook to work every weekday. Even if I have a wired Ethernet network of 100Mbits, I almost always use AirPort at home because that's one less wire to connect. I'm pretty much like Andrew. Most of the time, the only thing plugged in is the adapter. Sometimes I'll use the scanner or the iPod or my external FireWire drive so I can just stay sitting and easily plug and unplug those... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FUBAR n.: The Failed UniBus Address Register in a VAX. A good example of how jargon can occasionally be snuck past the suits; see foobar, and foo for a fuller etymology. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
