Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
I thought one other feature that the PowerBooks have over the iBooks was a CardBus (PCMCIA) slot. Maybe that's changed with the new G4 iBook? -tom -- From: Andrew, a Mac Freak Subject: Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12 From what I have read, the iBook and the PowerBook 12 are almost the same; they both use the same LCD screen, have basically the same bus and processor speed (that is, if you are talking about the G4 iBook), and, I believe, they have the same monitor output. The main advantages are the SuperDrive, size and weight, and the stylish case design. The iBook G4 that I have is very small, and it even fits in a PowerBook Duo carry case! Also, unless the 15 monitor you are talking about has capabilities of 1024x768 resolution or better, it will not be any advantage over the built-in LCD screen, as the iBook and PowerBook 12 both have max resolutions of 1024x768. I actually prefer the LCD over a CRT. -- Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
On 1/2/04 7:44 AM, Tom Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought one other feature that the PowerBooks have over the iBooks was a CardBus (PCMCIA) slot. Maybe that's changed with the new G4 iBook? -tom Sadly (for me and my iBook) I think you are right. I have no Cardbus/PCMCIA slot, just the compartment for the airport card under the keyboard. I thought the first Powerbook G4 12 didn't have cardbus, but the new one probably does. -- Andrew A Mac Freak -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
On Jan 2, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote: On 1/2/04 7:44 AM, Tom Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought one other feature that the PowerBooks have over the iBooks was a CardBus (PCMCIA) slot. Maybe that's changed with the new G4 iBook? -tom Sadly (for me and my iBook) I think you are right. I have no Cardbus/PCMCIA slot, just the compartment for the airport card under the keyboard. I thought the first Powerbook G4 12 didn't have cardbus, but the new one probably does. Nope, neither new nor old 12 Powerbook has a PCMCIA/Cardbus slot. No room, I guess. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
I just checked at Apple.com and you're right, the 12 PB does not have the PC Card slot though the 15 and 17 PBs do have it. What's the screen resolution and color depth on these things though? -tom -- From: Hal Subject: Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12 Nope, neither new nor old 12 Powerbook has a PCMCIA/Cardbus slot. No room, I guess. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
On 1/2/04 9:22 AM, Tom Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked at Apple.com and you're right, the 12 PB does not have the PC Card slot though the 15 and 17 PBs do have it. What's the screen resolution and color depth on these things though? Resolution on both 12 iBook and 12 Powerbook is 1024x768, Millions of Colors. Scales to 800x600 or 640x480 with Millions of Colors, also. At least that's what my iBook is capable of, and since I read that both the iBook 12 and Powerbook 12 use the exact same LCD panel -- Andrew A Mac Freak -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
On 12/31/03 4:35 AM, Peter Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am thinking about buying a new iBook or PowerBook. Basically what I want is to be able to use an external monitor preferably a pivot 15 or 17. I like to be able to see a whole A4 page at once. So my question is would the iBook suffice? Can it only mirror the internal screen or could it also turn it around to a pivot monitor? -Peter The computer I am typing on that I recently bought is a iBook G4 800MHz 12 and I can't seem to be able to mirror or even use an external monitor with the included adapter. Does anybody know how to get the external monitor to function on the iBook? (Moving On) From what I have read, the iBook and the PowerBook 12 are almost the same; they both use the same LCD screen, have basically the same bus and processor speed (that is, if you are talking about the G4 iBook), and, I believe, they have the same monitor output. The main advantages are the SuperDrive, size and weight, and the stylish case design. The iBook G4 that I have is very small, and it even fits in a PowerBook Duo carry case! Also, unless the 15 monitor you are talking about has capabilities of 1024x768 resolution or better, it will not be any advantage over the built-in LCD screen, as the iBook and PowerBook 12 both have max resolutions of 1024x768. I actually prefer the LCD over a CRT. -- Andrew A Mac Freak -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs PowerBook 12
On Jan 1, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote: On 12/31/03 4:35 AM, Peter Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I have read, the iBook and the PowerBook 12 are almost the same; they both use the same LCD screen, have basically the same bus and processor speed (that is, if you are talking about the G4 iBook), and, I believe, they have the same monitor output. This is not entirely accurate. I had a 600mHz iBook G3, a 12 867mHz PBG4 and now a 1gHz 12 PBG4. The iBook G3 and G4 and the original 12 PBG4 only supported VGA output through a mini-VGA port and an adapter. The new 12 PBG4 has a mini-DVI port and supports external digital displays with much higher resolutions than 1024x768. The new 1gHz 12 Powerbook is significantly faster than the last generation 867. That said, the new iBook G4 is probably about the same speed as the last generation 12 Powerbook. Just my $0.02. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
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Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
Stout just started it this year and I really don't know about all of the other schools in the UW system, but they are firm about having to purchase a PC. Students that are in the Arts get a Mac instead, but they also get no choice, even though they already are getting the best laptop for the job. The cost (rental) is $500 per year, with a new laptop (unspecified model or make) after two years, but if anything happens to the computer, the user is responsible for the cost of fixing it, not Stout. Tom on 7/23/02 3:08 PM, Obi-Wan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. My brother teaches at UW Madison, and he knows nothing about this decision. He uses a Mac...of course. Is this for all the UW schools in WI. Like Stout and Madison and the others? -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
João Loureiro writes: Hi, everyone! What book is the best buy Ti-Book G4/667? or iBook G3/700? The answer is Yes. Which is best depends on your needs. The TiBook is slim and has a positivley huge screen. The iBook is heavier, costs less, and displays less pixels on a smaller screen. The G4 is definitely superior for OS X, but not much better than a G3 for running the old Mac operating systems. And the iBook's plastic case apparently gives it a lot more range with AirPort. Visit your dealer. Play with 'em. See which meets *your* needs. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
The State Schools here in Wisconsin just started a new policy this year (daughter starting as a Freshman) that all students are required to get a PC Laptop through the school and will have to purchase that PC even though they have a computer of their own. Tom So I would recommend buying the cheapest powerbook you can afford that meets the standards for school. Then buy a second low-end PB in your senior year. You will recoup at least 30% of the value (hopefully more) of your first PB to buy the second PB. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
On 23/07/02 12:09, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The State Schools here in Wisconsin just started a new policy this year (daughter starting as a Freshman) that all students are required to get a PC Laptop through the school and will have to purchase that PC even though they have a computer of their own. Tom So I would recommend buying the cheapest powerbook you can afford that meets the standards for school. Then buy a second low-end PB in your senior year. You will recoup at least 30% of the value (hopefully more) of your first PB to buy the second PB. Tom, Are you traveling in Europe or something? If not, how can the time on your computer be 12:09 since it's only 10:19 am EDT, here? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
On 23/07/02 12:09, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The State Schools here in Wisconsin just started a new policy this year (daughter starting as a Freshman) that all students are required to get a PC Laptop through the school and will have to purchase that PC even though they have a computer of their own. Tom So I would recommend buying the cheapest powerbook you can afford that meets the standards for school. Then buy a second low-end PB in your senior year. You will recoup at least 30% of the value (hopefully more) of your first PB to buy the second PB. Tom, Are you traveling in Europe or something? If not, how can the time on your computer be 12:09 since it's only 10:19 am EDT, here? Likely windows with the right local time but the wrong time zone (set to PDT). I would fix that right away... but the Mac with the same issue would look the same... -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 Get your email address through lemlists.com for only $5/year. http://lemlists.com/email/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
Laurent, I will have to check that out when I get back on my Pismo again! Wisconsin being the socialist state that it is, may have just moved to their own time zone overnight, so I may have to check that out also. Anyway, the PC requirement in College is something we all should think about, since it seems to be just another way Mac's are being pushed out the door. Tom Tom, Are you traveling in Europe or something? If not, how can the time on your computer be 12:09 since it's only 10:19 am EDT, here? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
WINDOWS! EXCUSE ME, but it is a Mac or nothing here at my house. Tom From: Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:23:17 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Subject: Re: iBook vs. PowerBook Likely windows with the right local time but the wrong time zone (set to PDT). I would fix that right away... but the Mac with the same issue would look the same... -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
WINDOWS! EXCUSE ME, but it is a Mac or nothing here at my house. I was thinking of what would register a -0700 time zone (which is pacific daylight). It was the first to come to mind. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 Get your email address through lemlists.com for only $5/year. http://lemlists.com/email/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
Hi, everyone! What book is the best buy Ti-Book G4/667? or iBook G3/700? I would like hear your opinion. João. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
Hi, everyone! What book is the best buy Ti-Book G4/667? or iBook G3/700? João, what are you using it for? That's an important piece of information. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 Get your email address through lemlists.com for only $5/year. http://lemlists.com/email/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Has anyone done the $300 G3 Pismo to G4 upgrade? Is it a good thing? Ed Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
On 23/07/02 11:07, João Loureiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone! What book is the best buy Ti-Book G4/667? or iBook G3/700? I would like hear your opinion. For the sheer power, and the best long term investment, the G4/667 is the best. The iBook is due for a G4 upgrade now that's the only product line using the G3. So, that's somekind of dead end and if you're planning to use it for many years, you might not be able to run the latest Mac OS on it sooner than you might think. Mac OS X has portions of it that were optimized for the G4, so you're getting a much better performance with the Titanium PowerBook. All IMHO, of course... -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * Heuristics are bug ridden by definition. If they didn't have bugs, then they'd be algorithms. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
Ryan, I use it for a little bit of everything. Work, email, internet, graphics, games, ... Everything in OS X! João On Terça, Julho 23, 2002, at 04:11 , Ryan Coleman wrote: João, what are you using it for? That's an important piece of information. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 Get your email address through lemlists.com for only $5/year. http://lemlists.com/email/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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and i thought the States are a free country.hm (writing from UK)... vlad On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 05:09 , Thomas Ethen wrote: The State Schools here in Wisconsin just started a new policy this year (daughter starting as a Freshman) that all students are required to get a PC Laptop through the school and will have to purchase that PC even though they have a computer of their own. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Thomas Ethen wrote: The State Schools here in Wisconsin just started a new policy this year (daughter starting as a Freshman) that all students are required to get a PC Laptop through the school and will have to purchase that PC even though they have a computer of their own. There's a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. My brother teaches at UW Madison, and he knows nothing about this decision. He uses a Mac...of course. Is this for all the UW schools in WI. Like Stout and Madison and the others? -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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João Loureiro wrote: Ryan, I use it for a little bit of everything. Work, email, internet, graphics, games, ... Everything in OS X! That settles it. Get the TiBook. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Of course I would appreciate the better screen and faster performance, but not sure I can justify the extra money if it's not likely to outlast the iBook in terms of becoming obsolete. There is also the option of getting a refurbished TiBook (I'd recommend smalldog.com) for about the same price as the iBook. But it will be slower Mhz wise than the iBook for about the same price. OS X and things like iTunes etc are optomized for the G4 so will actually run faster. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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it'll be only a matter of time until the iBooks too get a G4 Anyone got any guessitmates in this respect? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On 7/22/02 8:33 AM, Miller, Kimberly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course I would appreciate the better screen and faster performance, but not sure I can justify the extra money if it's not likely to outlast the iBook in terms of becoming obsolete. Well I'll tell you, if it were me I'd get the iBook, but pass on the overpriced extra Apple RAM. Take that extra $387 and put it toward the 700 MHz 14.1 screen iBook with 256 MB RAM, Combo drive, and 30 GB HD for $1,749. You'll appreciate the larger screen and the extra HD space. If you still want the extra RAM (which, IMHO, is probably not necessary given the apps you plan to run), use the savings to get some 3rd party RAM. -pha -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Miller, Kimberly on 7/22/02 7:33 AM wrote: I'm starting medical school in the fall, and looking to get a laptop to replace my iMac DV (400 MHz, 128 MB RAM, OS 9.2) that I bought in January of 2000. For what I currently do with the computer (usual email, web browsing, word processing, and digital photo editing), the iMac is actually almost sufficient except for it's small amount of RAM. The photo editing is a bit slow, but I'm not working with huge files so it's usable. So that makes me lean towards the iBook. If you're going to be toting this around a lot, go for the iBook 12 or 14. It is sturdier and will hold up longer. Apple built it with the educational market in mind. The TiBook just isn't built for the rigors of daily transportation and the abuse I would imagine it would experience in a backpack at school. Then spring for AppleCare. Get AppleCare. Did I mention AppleCare. It's well worth the investment. Especially if you are going to try and squeeze out 3-4 years of use out of it. When the battery craps out in 2.5 years, you'll get another for free. If you have questions about OS 10/11/12 in 2 years, 10 months, it's a free call. If the screen goes dim...well, you get the idea. Oh yeah, if you do end up getting the Titanium PowerBook G4...get AppleCare. -makmac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Kimberly, First of all, congratulations on medical school. I finished Architecture school about a year ago and took a different approach to the computer requirement. Since architecture school was a 5 year program, I knew that my machine would be obsolete in 3 years. So consider that you may need to buy TWO computers in your academic career just to be able to run the software you need. Also, consider that you actually need a powerful computer at the end of school (thesis), instead of near the beginning. I entered architecture school with a 180mhz 3400c with 48 megs of RAM in 1997. In 1999 I upgraded the machine to 144 megs. In 2000, I bought a 400mhz Pismo/389 megs the term before my Thesis project. At the end of the term, I was able to do more work than my classmates with a 5-year old 9600. Have you tried execute a thesis project on a 5 year-old computer? It's really painful!! By the way, my friends 9600 cost him MORE than my 3400 and Pismo combined! So I would recommend buying the cheapest powerbook you can afford that meets the standards for school. Then buy a second low-end PB in your senior year. You will recoup at least 30% of the value (hopefully more) of your first PB to buy the second PB. The slowest Powerbook 3 years from now will still me MUCH faster than the fastest/most expensive PB today. Good Luck, Vic Duong PS- your IMAC is probably fast enough to start you out in school if you max out the RAM and add an airport card. Things like running your RAM disk will speed up Photoshop. I'm going to assume that most of the required software will be able to run just fine in OS 9. Then when the required software becomes only avaliable in OS X, then upgrade your machine. I'm going to guess that is another year away. I'm starting medical school in the fall, and looking to get a laptop to replace my iMac DV (400 MHz, 128 MB RAM, OS 9.2) that I bought in January of 2000. For what I currently do with the computer (usual email, web browsing, word processing, and digital photo editing), the iMac is actually almost sufficient except for it's small amount of RAM. The photo editing is a bit slow, but I'm not working with huge files so it's usable. So that makes me lean towards the iBook. BUT. I'm slightly concerned about investing in a computer for the next 3-4 years that is already the only computer in Apple's line to still use the G3 processor. To be short, what it sort of comes down to is that the Powerbook costs 33% more than an iBook. Will it be usable an extra year for a medium user like myself? Of course I would appreciate the better screen and faster performance, but not sure I can justify the extra money if it's not likely to outlast the iBook in terms of becoming obsolete. Prices and specifications: iBook: $1932 700 MHz G3 640 MB RAM 20 GB HD 512 K L2 cache 100 MHz system bus combo drive AirPort card ATI Mobility RADEON 16 MB 12.1 screen 1024X768 PowerBook: $2585 667 MHz G4 512 MB RAM 30 GB HD 1 MB L3 cache 133 MHz system bus combo drive AirPort card PC card slot ATI Mobility RADEON 7500 32 MB 15.2 screen 1280X854 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
